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[00:00:00] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Welcome back to the Business is Human podcast. I'm your host, Rebecca Fleetwood Hession, and we're here to bring you episodes that blend a meaningful work with profitable success. Here to steward what I call the Age of Humanity. I believe if we transform the way we work. We can transform the way that we live.
[00:00:28] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: As always, my friendly request, if you like what you hear, hit subscribe so you don't miss any episode and leave a review to tell the other humans that they might like it too. Always looking to help you and connect with others. All right, let's get into it, shall we?
[00:00:43] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Hey, how's it going? Well, today I am going to just sort of riff off some things that are on my mind based on some books that I've been reading and the plethora of, things going on in the world. Today should be a short little episode. I tried to jot down some notes about what's in my head and organize them in a way that would be helpful.
[00:01:10] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: And it wasn't helpful to me. And so I was like, you know what? I'm just gonna count on the Lord and the Holy Spirit to guide me in this episode. So. There's a lot going on in the world, and some of it is really, really, really good. The amount of people that I have seen on social media and people that have reached out to me and said, I really wanna pick up a Bible.
[00:01:42] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: I'd like to go to church. Why all of a sudden am I wondering about Jesus? And all of those things are worth celebrating. And any time that we have this. Movement this revival, the Holy Spirit is moving, which means it's impacting people and they wanna respond to it. Well, the battle of Good and evil has been around since the beginning of time, and so you're also gonna see a stir up of darkness because darkness doesn't like the light.
[00:02:16] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: And so it's not something to be worked up about. Quite frankly, it is something to observe and to acknowledge that this is really the way it works. We are spiritual beings living in a physical world and the spirits are kind competing for our attention, I guess is the way I'll put it today,
[00:02:44] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: I see a lot of people online trying to figure it out, what happened to Charlie Kirk? What are the details? we may never know. There is so much that goes on in the world that. We will never have answers to, but because our brains don't like uncertainty, we keep digging, thinking we should go find the answers.
[00:03:14] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: And the Bible says, you don't need to do that because I will guide you. The Lord says I will give you the things that you, um, need to hear from me. And the Bible also very clearly states that, he won't allow anybody to be taken before their time. And so He's got it.
[00:03:33] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: So the more that you can take your hands off of it and let God be God and look instead to connecting with him, instead of connecting with every news channel and every social media channel and all the things, the more shalom. Peace that you'll have in your life. there's always people trying to keep things stirred up and, you know, showing clips of this and that without complete context, which is.
[00:04:08] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Often what I speak up from a business perspective is that we need clarity and context, and in the business world, this can also happen where someone will take a little snippet of something someone says, a manager or a CEO, someone. Run with it without understanding the full context of the intent and what was meant behind it.
[00:04:33] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: And so we as managers and leaders need to be very cognizant that people are always grabbing clips, snippets, and in our brains aren't as. Attuned these days to listening to things for long periods of time. And so we have to be very aware that people can take things out of context if we're not really, really intentional.
[00:05:00] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: And so much of that is happening today. and then people are also in a place where we, believe that we're all supposed to see the world the same way. And that's not. True. We're all different down to our fingerprints on purpose for a purpose, but we have moved to this place of severe judgment for one another versus how can we use our differences for unity?
[00:05:29] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: And you've probably heard me talk about the jigsaw puzzle metaphor. Were all different like pieces of a jigsaw puzzle on purpose for a purpose. So that when we come together, we can figure out where we fit, and when we put a jigsaw puzzle together, there are three characteristics. It's far more beautiful, it's far stronger, and every piece matters.
[00:05:53] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: And so if we could learn to look at each other with more curiosity. Not judgment, then everybody can start to find their place where they fit. And so if you're looking for the truth, the best place to go to look for that is the Bible. that's where truth. Lives into eternity and anything else that you're gonna find on Instagram or chatting with your friends or whatever is probably not complete total truth.
[00:06:32] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: And so I believe that. This revival that we're having is a beautiful thing and I, I wanna be really supportive of those who are grabbing a Bible for the first time and, digging in and, and wanting to understand more about Jesus. And so I've been posting things on Instagram and TikTok and I think it auto post Facebook too, and giving some guidance and things about the Bible.
[00:07:01] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: So if that's you and you wanna hear more about that. Find me on social media and you'll find it under Rebecca Sue Fleetwood probably. Um. PS I've dropped Hession off much of my, my social media presence and will be officially doing the paperwork for that, um, at some point. to change my name officially, Hession was my married name and I haven't been married to, um, Mr. Hession for a long, long, long, long time. And so, it just felt like the right time. I had been praying about it and the Lord gave me some signs that said, yeah, this is it. So. I have three books that I am going to recommend to you, for such a time as this, as they say in the book of Esther. one is by Jamie Winship, W-I-N-S-H-I-P, and it's called Living Fearless: Exchanging the Lies of the World for the Liberating Truth of God
[00:07:58] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: I heard Jamie on a podcast that I listened to called The Deep End with Taylor Welch, who's a business guy who also talks about Jesus. And so that resonates with me 'cause I'm a business person who also talks about Jesus and neuroscience. So, Jamie was on the show and. I really appreciated his approach.
[00:08:22] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: He was a police officer in DC actually, and then spent 30 years in living and working in the Muslim world teaching people how to hear from God, and so his approach. Just is very practical, tactical, and he has great stories. And so I really recommend this book called Living Fearless and one of the prayers that he teaches.
[00:08:47] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: There's also a journal that goes along with this book that is really good too. I went through all of the exercises and found it really, really, really insightful. But one of the prayers that I use constantly now because of reading Jamie's work is when I sit down to pray, I'll say, Lord. Silence my voice.
[00:09:06] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Silence the voice of the enemy, and bind my mind with Christ so that I can trust that what I hear is from you. because the Bible says that the Lord hears an answer, our prayers, I just find that really. Intentional. it just points it in the direction of I want to hear from you.
[00:09:23] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: And it silences all of the other thoughts that I have. and I found some really profound results from praying that way. So I hope that you will pick up, Jamie's book, Living Fearless, because I think it's great. Wendy Backlund.
[00:09:43] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Also got her from the Deep End Podcast with Taylor Welch and loved the first book I picked up of her so much. I went and grabbed another one. And again, I really resonate with. People who teach the Bible based on science and also have a practical application. In my case, it's a business application. Wendy, does a phenomenal job at this.
[00:10:13] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: And as someone who has studied these things for years, I mean, I have taken classes on belief architecture I've studied some crazy stuff. Y'all really just wanting to understand truth from the Bible in a deeper way, and something about the way that Wendy writes just.
[00:10:33] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Clicks. I mean, I had paid for this class. I was in like the sixth or seventh week of it, and I was getting a lot out of it, but there was just a lot. And I had all these notes and I was trying to distill it down and I picked up Wendy's book and it literally just all just organized in my brain because of the way that she speaks on it.
[00:10:52] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: And I was like, you know what? I'm probably gonna saved the money on the classes I was taking. I just would've read Wendy's book. But here we are. This first one that I read is called Victorious Emotions, and the tagline is creating a framework for a happier You. And what she says is it will help you create happiness as your default emotion.
[00:11:17] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Even if we have unhappy circumstances, we can build a system of beliefs. That as effortless as the tides will bring us back to joy. And I think for business people in particular, this is really, really important because we get paid to fix problems for the most part. And so what it does to our belief system is it has us out scanning for problems.
[00:11:49] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Far too often and not enough sitting in contentment or looking for happiness or looking for joy that exists around us all the time, and we're so frenetically busy and overly activated in our nervous system, and far too dependent on external validation that we miss it. We miss the good stuff.
[00:12:15] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: We're so busy planning for the future and the goals in the future, and what am I striving for this year? What's my word of the year? I get exhausted by it. Sometimes I have goals, but you know what? What I really am enjoying, I'll give you an example. So today I was sitting on my patio. This morning after I'd gone for a little run, I'd walked the dogs in the woods and I was sitting with my journal and my Bible and it is a beautiful fall day today.
[00:12:51] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: And yes, I have a lot of things going on. I rise and thrive Season seven just kicked off. I have two keynotes next week. like, I've got stuff that I need to be working on today and I am. But for those moments this morning, I looked around and I thought, this is good.
[00:13:15] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: It is a beautiful day. I am healthy, I am happy. I am a child of God. Like I just had this overwhelming flood of contentment and happiness and joy for this, for that moment. And I looked down and my dog Olive, who's just over a year old, so still has plenty of puppy in her. She was batting a tennis ball around and there was a butterfly flying around her head as she was doing it.
[00:13:48] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: And I thought, this would be like a page out of a children's book and I thought if I hadn't been more focused on seeking happiness and joy in the midst of a really. demanding career. I would've missed that moment and that moment gave me all kinds of happiness and joy.
[00:14:13] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: And I've always been pretty optimistic. If you're been around here for very long, you know that about me, but I've really been. Ratcheting up several notches, through this, book of Wendy's. And, I really recommend it to you because it gives you reflection questions. also has a journal that goes along with it if you choose to purchase it as well.
[00:14:37] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: I bought the journal too, and it's basically says, Hey, here are the reflection questions, and do 'em for 30 days so that you can rewire the patterns of your brain, which I'm a huge fan of. I did some of that, but I found the way that she tells stories and the way that she teaches things and describes things in the book really, really, really helpful.
[00:14:57] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: one of the aspects that she talks about in this book that led me to then go by the next book that I'll tell you about in just a minute and I have done a couple of podcasts on this and I've talked to my clients about it on a fairly regular basis. God created our imagination to use for faith.
[00:15:19] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: To use for write your vision and make it plain to use for casting your dreams for the future. And too often we use our imagination to think about what bad things could happen. And again, I think as business people, we are at a great risk. Of tuning our belief system to the negative and to the problems and to all of those things, if we're not more intentional about it.
[00:15:53] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Being able to really focus in on using my imagination for faith. Hebrews 11, one says, faith in things yet to be seen helped me increase my positivity and create and increase my optimism, and I'm finding that I am living happier as a result. So, Victorious Emotions by Wendy Backlund. Highly recommend.
[00:16:21] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: And so that took me to say, let me just buy this other book from her that she had written before, Victorious Emotions, and it's called Living from the Unseen, reflections from a Transformed Life. And as I said earlier, we are spiritual beings living in a, natural or a physical body. And so what this book teaches is how to see, hear, and access the spirit realm and its principles.
[00:16:54] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: And when you live through the eyes of. The spirit world, it is so freeing. You don't have to fix everything and everyone around you, you can live a much freer life. So I highly recommend this one as well. And, It's just a few pages, each chapter, and then a declaration and an application, at the end of, of each.
[00:17:24] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: so it's definitely one that you can use as a workbook, not just to read the concepts, which, who doesn't love that? one of the, final chapters that I was reading this weekend, again on this idea of how we use our imaginations. Is she was really, forward in the way that she talked about. if we are ruminating on our past, if we are just constantly thinking about mistakes that we've made in the past, it means that We've built an altar, basically to darkness because the Lord doesn't want you ruminating on your past mistakes. He's already forgiven you for those, he's already like we moving on to the future. He, he promises to take you from glory to glory and give you more than you can ask. Think you imagine, and give you, the shalom of God.
[00:18:21] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Nothing missing, nothing broken in peace. Like his promises aren't, oh hey. Why don't you sit around and think about that dumb thing that you did however many years ago. don't waste so much of your emotional bandwidth doing that. and the way that she described that really just hit me and I don't do it so much anymore, but I have a lot of clients that have struggled with that
[00:18:50] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: She says, God created the mind to serve us, not to keep us in captivity. And two of the main dimensions of the mind are memory and imagination. God created these functions to bless us and cause us to prosper. Unfortunately, the enemy is used these gifts against us, and it's time that we stop making our memory and imagination tools for the enemy and begin using them for their original intent.
[00:19:17] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: And so she goes on to say that, when you talk about memory, it enables us to yes. Remember things of the past and things that we have learned. It's good to say, oh yeah, I learned that, and I can bring that forward into the the future. But she says too often that people rehearse the memories of our failures and remind ourselves that what we haven't learned and we tend to make alters to our failures rather than alters to is faithfulness.
[00:19:44] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Huh. So good. And that's just one example of an entire book of really powerful, Perspective. And again, each chapter, she gives you an application and a declaration for that concept. And so her application of this chapter that I read this weekend was Build an altar Today around a successful past experience that reveals how God has changed you or helped you create a journal of success.
[00:20:17] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Celebrate seemingly small things like saying no to something, speaking well of someone declaring God's word or just praying for 10 minutes. And the declaration is, I succeed in everything I put my hand to and in my rise and thrive experience, many times over the years we've. built the badass list.
[00:20:37] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: What are the things that we've done that were really successful, that have served us and helped us? And I love this idea of a journal dedicated to success. And so I made a commitment to start doing that today, and I think it's something that you might wanna consider for yourself as a takeaway of today's episode.
[00:21:01] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: So those are my. Three books that I would highly recommend to you in this kind of weird tumultuous time that we're in to keep you focused on what matters most, which is the life that God has already prepared for you, so that you don't get overly worked up in all of the things that are happening in the world around you.
[00:21:25] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: because many of them you don't have any. Impact on, and it's just gonna keep your emotions, worked up and we need to use those emotions to cast a future for ourselves. it's a far happier, more joyful life when we do that. All right. That's all I have for you today. I hope this was helpful in some way.
[00:21:46] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: And if you do choose to pick up one or all of these books and you have any experiences with them that you wanna share with me, reach out, send me a message on some social channel or, shoot me an email at Rebecca at We Thrive Live and let me know what you thought. I'd love to hear from you. All right.
[00:22:06] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Make it a great day. Love you mean it.
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