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Debt to Financial Freedom Podcast Episode 10 with Scott Robinson

Welcome to a remarkable episode that breaks the mold. Today, we venture beyond the realms of property, 

inviting an extraordinary guest who embodies a multifaceted brilliance. Scott Robinson, a distinguished 

business owner, transcends conventional boundaries with his profound expertise.

As a Senior Lecturer at the esteemed Academy of Applied Movement Neurology, Scott delves into the intricate workings of the mind, 

brain, and nervous system. His journey encompasses the exploration of subtle energetic anatomy, seeking balance not only within the

 body's governing systems but also throughout the tapestry of life itself. Through the integration of diverse healing paradigms, 

Scott's holistic approach strives to optimize nervous system function and elevate subconscious programs, empowering individuals to 

align with their true purpose.

Scott's work weaves together healing wisdom, scientific understanding, and unwavering dedication, unlocking the gateway to 

unparalleled health, limitless capabilities, and the realization of one's best life. Through personalized one-on-one sessions, 

transformative group healing experiences, enlightening courses, soul-enriching retreats, captivating podcasts, and engaging presentations, 

he disseminates his profound insights far and wide.

Recognized as a fellow at the Complimentary Medical Association, Scott's expertise extends further as a brain enhancer, a Master Healer, 

and a conscious business facilitator. Today, we embark on a captivating journey as he unravels the secrets to aligning the mind, body, and 

spirit, propelling us towards our utmost potential.

Get ready to immerse yourself in a world where truth, healing, and limitless possibilities converge. 

Join us as we delve into the extraordinary wisdom of Scott Robinson.

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What is Debt to Financial Freedom?

Welcome to the Debt Financial Freedom Podcast. Everyone loves the benefits of money, but so many of us avoid the hard truths about saving and investing. We wrongly assume we don’t have enough time, capital or knowledge to be able to get to the point of having passive income streams, savings, or investments.The things we really need to know about money aren’t taught in schools. Spending less than you earn, maximising your income, budgeting, taxes, mortgages, investments and passive income - if you didn’t learn these things from your family, then you’re probably like most people who rely on credit cards, buy now, pay later and overdrafts. And then when you want to invest or buy property you will be wondering why you can’t get approval.But there is no judgment from me here - I was in exactly the same situation! Huge debt, poor financial habits and no assets to my name. Step by step I turned my situation around and now, as a certified mortgage broker for 16 years with several investment properties in my name, I’m here to help you go from debt to financial freedom. Because if I can do it, you can too.In this podcast, I will share tips, insights and strategies from my own journey and experience, as well as my clients and guest experts, who share my values and mission to help others create financial freedom. My goal in this podcast is to share raw, honest, transparent, and helpful stories that you can relate to, and that will inspire you to take control of your finances. The only ‘good’ debt is debt that brings you closer to financial freedom and I will show you exactly how to achieve this. Everything shared by me and my guests in this podcast is general in nature, and for education purposes only. None of your personal objectives, financial situation, or needs have been taken into consideration. I highly recommend you seek personal, financial, legal, taxation, and credit advice before you take action on what you heard on this podcast.

Victor Lagos: Welcome to the
Debt to Financial Freedom

podcast. I'm your host Victor
Lagos, and the founder of Lagos

Financial. I've been in the
finance and lending industry for

16 years, and I've personally
made financial mistakes and

learn from them. I started this
podcast to share stories and

lessons on my own journey, and
to share insights that may help

others on their journey. And I
interviewed people that I've

connected with that share the
same values and mission to help

others create financial freedom.

My goal this podcast is to share
raw, honest, transparent and

helpful stories that you can
relate to and inspires you to

take control of your finances
and only have debt that brings

you closer to financial freedom.

Everything on this podcast is
general in nature, and for

education purposes only. None of
your personal objectives,

financial situation or needs
have been taken into

consideration. I highly
recommend you seek personal

financial, legal taxation and
credit advice before you take

any action on what has been
heard on this podcast. Welcome

to Episode 10 of the debt to
financial freedom podcast. I am

your host, Victor Lagos. I am
also the founder of Lagos

financial, which is a
residential and commercial

finance brokerage. Today, I've
got a different type of episode.

Usually I bring on people got a
background in property, property

investors, they business owners,
Scott Robinson is a business

owner. But he's also much more
than that. And I'm going to do a

little intro here. And I'm going
to read it out. But I think it's

it'll give you a good
understanding of what he does.

And and you start to understand
why he's on the show today. So

Scott is a Senior Lecturer with
the Academy of applied movement,

neurology, a Master Healer, and
a mind aligned with both truth

and limitlessness. Scott works
directly with the mind with the

brain and the nervous system, as
well as the subtle energetic

anatomy to achieve balance not
only in the governing systems of

the body, but across the whole
experience of life via

integration, multiple healing by
the integration of multiple

healing paradigms into a single
holistic approach aimed at

optimizing nervous system
function. As well as upgrading

subconscious programs of the
mind. Scott's work aligns the

mind with the core truth of the
individuals being and purpose as

well as aligning the nervous
system in such a way as to meet

with the requirements of any
individual accessing their very

best life. Scotch is healing
wisdom, truth and scientific

understanding towards accessing
one's greatest health, very best

life and true limitless
capabilities via one to one and

group healing experiences,
courses, retreats, podcasts, and

presentations. He is a fellow at
the complimentary Medical

Association, a senior lecturer
at the Academy of applied

movement, neurology, a brain
enhancer, a Master Healer, and a

conscious business facilitator.

What an intro,

Scott Robinson: I think that
covers everything. So

Victor Lagos: awesome. Awesome.

Scott Robinson: Thank you for
having me, Victor, it's really

great to be here. And if
everyone's followed along that,

that through that very wordy
intro of mine, we could probably

just simplify it down into
really what I do is, it's your

brain and your mind that govern
every experience that you ever

have. So brain and mind are
literally running the entire

show. So there's kind of nothing
that we can't affect, there's no

area of life that we can't
profoundly affect. So really all

I do is just help get the algae
out of the way so you can get on

with living your very best life.

That's it, whether it's health,
whether it's finance, whether

it's physicality, get the algae
out of the way get on with being

the very best selves, live your
best life. That's what we do.

Victor Lagos: And this is why
it's such an important time to

have you on because right now in
the financial world, many people

are going through some
challenges. Inflation, the cost

of living, interest rate rises.

You know, the reasons that and
people living in Sydney is that

the the affordable housing costs
has hit around 60% of 60 to 65%

of after tax household income is
going towards their mortgage.

That's crazy, that they're not
left with much money to live.

They're cutting back on just the
simple things in life. And this

can really have an effect on on
your mind on your emotions and

your relationships. And now's
the time where we really need to

sort of become the driver of our
of our of our life and take

control of our emotions. I guess
not when I say control, it's not

about forcing it. It's a lot of
time it is about letting go and

You know, when it comes to
financial freedom, which is the

basis of this podcast, this is
money psychology that we would

really wanted to talk about
because this this childhood

programming that people go
through this traumas or

emotions, self worth, belief
systems, patterns, you know, the

whole bunch of different stuff,
and I wanted to get your take on

it and how you would explain it
in a way for the listeners to

really understand about their
old self versus their new self,

like you mentioned, and how, you
know, what are some strategies

just Firstly, to become aware,
and some, I guess, some

different ways that they can
improve on that and sort of

become their best selves?

Scott Robinson: Yeah. So look,
the first thing to slow down and

understand is, you want to go to
what's true, whatever is going

to be true, like the truth, it
sounds very, very cliche. But

funnily enough, it turns out,
it's actually true, is true city

free solves all your problems,
right, the guide to truth is

peace. So when you're looking to
make choices, and you're looking

for gardens, and you know, where
do I have I need to behave? What

choices do I need to make?

What's one of my strategies?

Which way? Am I going to direct
things? How am I going to go and

how we're going to get out of
this, this challenge that I'm

in, it's the choices that bring
your pace. And you'll choose

what you're given a value to,
when we talk about money,

psychology is the same across
every spectrum of life, the mind

will always choose for whatever
you've given importance to. So

whenever you've given importance
to whatever you've made

valuable, whether that's
conscious or unconscious, the

minds just going to choose for
that, right. And if you look at

the way society works, well,
there's a real value, there's a

virtue placed on hard work and
effort and suffering. People

see, there's a limiting belief
that it's nothing, nothing's

worthwhile, unless it's hard
work unless it doesn't, unless

it doesn't come easy. And so
I've really had to work and

suffer for it. And if you hold
that belief, we will absolutely

make that true. Yeah, this is
the thing for people to

understand is you have no idea
how powerful your mind is, you

have no idea how much you make
the world. And when you begin to

just step into that space and
look at that and begin to

appreciate that well, then it's
those beliefs that are held in

the subconscious mind, which
write the programs, which then

expresses behaviors and choices
and perceptions. Remember,

everything you experience is
your perception is this the

message I'm always trying to get
across to people is, there's you

don't experience anything
outside of your own mind. The

entire worldview happens inside
your mind, because everything

you experience is your
perception, you're generating

that perception from inside. So
if you are if you're making your

choices based on a belief and a
value held in hard work and

suffering, you'll make that your
reality, you know, and if you

hold a belief that there is an
effortless piece that can come

and you can choose for that you
can actually choose right, if I

place a value on peace, peace
takes me to truth, truth is

going to set me free, whatever
that actually looks like. If you

can begin to make choices
towards peace, you'll find that

things start to become a little
bit more a little bit easier,

you'll find ease, and then you
can just keep following down

that path eventually it can open
up in effortlessness

effortlessness might not seem
apparent initially, but there

will, there will be choices for
peace. Absolutely. So that's

something that we can all really
pay attention to. Simple, simple

choices, and it's just just, it
really comes down to a

worldview, how you view the
world. And if you're prepared to

allow yourself to choose for
that effortlessness, you can

have it.

Victor Lagos: I really love
that, because, you know, we had

a session a couple of months
ago, and it was literally that

it was around peace, and finding
peace within and choosing peace

and putting an importance on
that. And your mind starts to

focus on what what you know,
where your intention is going,

and where your attention and
your intention. And however,

this is saying, which is Old
habits die hard. Right. And, you

know, there's a lot of, I guess,
beliefs that we hold in the

subconscious, that if you're not
consciously aware of putting

your attention intention on on
pace, or effortlessness, or

just, you know, getting out of
the state of mind that you're

in, the old self seems to keep
coming back. And if you can

share a little bit around this,
because I've heard the saying,

as well, which is, you know,
neurons that fire together, wire

together. And so essentially,
you're breaking breaking apart

old neurons that have got like,
a lot of structure behind them

with a with a new truth,
although, I guess the real

truth, but the energy or the or
the, I guess the synaptic

connections are not as strong.

So is this word something like
visualization, or affirmations?

Or just, you know, creating
habits that sort of reinforce

this truth is going to set you
free? Or is there more to it?

Scott Robinson: Yeah. Look, I
think the thing to recognize is,

there's always more. So this is
one of the first things that I

learned when dying in Europe.

EEG is just more, there's always
more to it, you can always dive

deeper and more can unfold. And
if you just keep diving deeper,

asking the right questions, it
gets easier. Now, our whole

society is wrapped up in
conscious will and conscious

action. And so if you look at if
you look at the science and the

way that our society sees things
these days is a scientific

paradigm, you know, in
psychology believes really that

habit change is the most
powerful thing we can do. If you

can change a habit in here, this
said all the time, you know,

first you change your habits,
and then your habits change you,

you become your habit, you
become your new habits, that's

really slow and really hard.

It's a hard path and exactly
what you're describing, it's one

of the reasons that people feel
really stuck with filler, they

just can't overcome the old
self. And there's just more,

there's a much easier way to go.

And you don't actually need time
for this, if you're working

consciously if you're working
from that conscious level of

mind. And a really simple way to
understand it is you could say

that your conscious mind our
conscious thinking accounts for

roughly about 5% of your total
brain processing. And then the

other 95 or 95% is unconscious,
there's a huge amount more going

on in your unconscious monitors
in your conscious mind. But

everything in our, in our
understanding, and everything in

society believes that it all the
activity and all the action and

all the change is going to come
from this teeny tiny little 5%

that we're going to go and drive
and overcome and overwhelm this

95%, which is all powerful. But
there has to be an uphill

battle, there has to be a
challenging way to go. And if

you look at the way that it
unfolds, for most people, most

people would probably agree that
like, you know, it's really

tough, it's tough to get past
your old self. So the old self,

all those patterns, they're just
subconscious programs, right?

That's literally it. And these
subconscious programs are made

from beliefs. And those beliefs
are formed from what you've been

given, as you said, given from
your parents parental

programming, they, you've
downloaded them, and you've

absorbed them from your culture,
the belief is formed anytime you

have an experience. And this is
when you live in

unintentionally, which is what
nearly everyone's doing. When

you're just going through life,
learning life doing life as best

you can and trying to figure it
out on the fly. That's living

unintentionally. And when you do
that, you shift your belief

system when you have experiences
that are strong enough to shift

the nervous system. And
typically, because the brain has

a negativity bias, it's going to
pay way more attention to the

negative stuff. And it's going
to pay attention to the positive

stuff. So typically, the
experiences that impact you

strongly enough to shift the
nervous system are largely the

negative ones. It's the wounds
the traumas. So the beliefs that

you form out of that will be
protective, or there'll be

limiting, you know, I can't do
this, or I can't do that. Or

maybe I'm not safe, I need to
protect myself, I need to have

defenses. And so all of that is
limiting and all that's going to

really slow you down, it's not
that's not going to take you to

your highest expression, that's
just going to just leave you in

a pattern where you're just
trying to make the best of

things, right. So this true
limitless self is something

else. And this is if you're
going to live intentionally,

well, then there's ways to go
and shift your belief system and

change those beliefs and put
truth into the mind when you put

truth into the mind. And the
truth is that you're limitless,

where you can begin to express
that and that'll express in your

choices and your behaviors and
your feelings and your emotions.

And so there's just there's
different ways to go about that.

And so when you are trying to
change habits simply by

overriding the programming by
doing new things, new actions,

but that's going to be slow.

Because you've got this, as you
say, neurons that fire together

wire together, you have these
existing circuits that are

hardwired and have been running
probably for decades. And to try

and break that down by just
trying to make new patterns that

feels challenging, it feels like
you're swimming upstream, you

can literally imprint new
beliefs into the mind. But those

new beliefs will make new
programs. And you can literally

just dissolve the old
programming and I see this done

all the time. This is kind of
what I do literally just see

these things, just these
patterns just dissolve. And then

because the subconscious mind is
now expressing new programming

will for you to just go with the
new actions that's effortless,

because you're already running
programs. Once you running the

programs, the new habits, they
just flow. That's like a little

support strategy. We call them
small conscious actions or tiny

conscious actions. We're just
gonna go and do something that

aligns with what you already
believe. But when you're trying

to put in new habits that run
contrary to what you believe at

a deep level, there's resistance
there. resistances is hard, it's

challenging. So all we really
need to do is dive into the mind

and change the mind and this is
the thing this is the kicker and

it's just so key. It's so
simple, is everything in our

society believes that habit
change really is that number one

that go to that go to step and
everybody's looking to try and

change the habits. Fundamentally
you cannot change the mind just

by changing a habit. You can
change your habit you're still

that same person you know you
can You can be addicted to

something you can have. You can
feel a pull towards something,

but you got to change the habit
you still feel that pull you're

still that person you still want
to you still believe that you

are the person that does that
thing that you were previously

addicted to or felt a pull
towards. You can just change the

mind. Can't change your mind by
changing a habit. You can just

change the mind. It's a much
faster way to go. So it's

changed the mind and habits can
flow.

Victor Lagos: So it's kind of
like when you go straight to the

subconscious, where you're
holding these old beliefs, you

can release them straightaway.

And you can basically reprogram
your, I guess, the truest self

or the truest self, and then
you're not fighting against the

ultimate anymore becomes
effortless, you start living

from that truth. Is that what
you're basically saying? Yeah,

Scott Robinson: and it's worth
mentioning. There's no truer

self, there's no dualist.

There's just true. There's just
what's true. And this again,

this truth thing is really
important. It sounds really airy

fairy, but it's really
important. And it's something

because it's some that doesn't
exist in the world. So in the

world, there's 1,000,001
different truths, you're allowed

to have your truth, and I'm not
allowed to touch it. Like you

can say, Hey, listen, don't tell
me that I didn't experience this

thing. That's true for me, I
know I was there. And you can't

touch my truth because I can say
something's true for me. And

then he's allowed to have He's
over there. And they can have

theirs over there. And there's
an infinite number of different

truths. And you can have an
unfolding truth and a partial

truth and a half truth. And
there's a bit of truth to this,

and that, that's insanity. Like,
that's chaos, that absolutely

cannot work. There's one simple
lesson, and it's the hardest

lesson you've ever learned in
your life. That which is true is

true. And that which is not as
not. So truth is true. That's

the hardest lesson you'll ever
learn in your life. And so when

you find that, and this is the
thing, and then instead of

because once you find that we
don't need to define what that

is, we can just know that there
has to be a truth that has to be

whatever the truth in the
universe is, it just is right

whatever the actual real truth
is. That's, that's just it. You

have a level of mind that knows
what that is. And you can

receive guidance via those
feelings of peace and

effortlessness can take you
towards that, right? You don't

have to define it, you don't
have to work it out. And so what

that allows us to start getting
past the conscious mind, the

conscious mind, which is
thinking it needs to be the one

that makes the decisions. So
once you allow that, once you

allow that, right, there is a
truth now and I won't go into

that, right? I don't need to
just make something up from the

conscious level of mind and
think, Well, this kind of feels

a bit true for me, maybe I
should go with that sounds

better than this other pattern
that I had. So instead of me

being stuck financially, I said,
You know what, I'm going to put

in a belief that I'm abundant.

Okay, sounds good. Is that what
I truly need? Is that what I

truly am, I just made that up,
don't you, it might feel a

little better than whatever I
was doing when I felt stuck. But

if it's not actually true,
what's true sets you free, well,

then this was misery, I've just
shifted from one misery to

another, really, I'm only just
slightly better than where I was

before. So we would need to step
back, allow that higher level of

mind, allow that high level of
mind to give us some feedback,

give us some guidance, so we can
actually begin to make some

choices towards what's actually
true. So rather than trying to

make the decisions in the
moment, it's learn how it's

learnt learn how to work with
intuition. And when you talk

with, we're talking about
neurons that fire together and

why together intuition,
intuition taps you into that

higher that higher field of
intelligence, it's already

already has the answers. And if
you don't feel like you're an

intuitive person, well, there
are processes where you can

train that there are processes
where you can improve that

skill. Because receiving
information on that frequency,

you will need to have specific
sets of neurons that are

designed to be able to pick up
and read that information. If

you've never done that before,
it would make sense that you've

just don't have those circuits
formed yet. But when you begin

to pay attention, begin to feel
into your heart, begin to pay

attention to those feelings that
are guiding you towards your

best choices, every single time
that you place your attention on

that level of information,
you're making new synaptic

connections that are
specifically designed to be able

to receive that information. So
you can absolutely build it, you

can train intuition, and then
you can find yourself again,

being able to make those true
choices.

Victor Lagos: Okay? So really,
for people who've never heard

this before, about tapping into
the higher mind, and, you know,

ways to really, you know, train
your intuition. What's the

starting point for someone like
that has never even heard of

this stuff?

Scott Robinson: First step is
awareness, very difficult to

change, change the things that
you have no awareness of. So

just actually stepping back and
allowing the awareness that Oh,

hang on. Maybe there's another
way to do this. Okay, that opens

the door for more straightaway.

Okay. So this is the thing
because I get this all the time

with people when we're saying,
Okay, if you want to change

anything in your life, true
change and take yourself to

whatever's highest, whatever is
best. The first thing you need

is acceptance. The way you're
gonna get to acceptance is to

make no judgment, the way you're
going to make no judgement is

make no decisions, right?

Because you're dealing with
perception. You and I everyone

in physicality. We're not
designed to be able to have all

the information, right? There's
no end to the information field

like you and I were sitting here
in this room having a having a

nice chat. And what gives
meaning to this situation, what

allows us to understand exactly
whatever it is that we're doing

here right now, and we're both
sitting here, you know, there's

not much else happening in the
room. We've got intent that we

want to help people. So you
would think We should be able to

judge this, we should be able to
say this is a good thing, we

should be able to say we know
what we're doing. But what gives

meaning to this is all the
information in the information

field, the entire information
field around this event around

the situation that we're doing.

And there's no end, there's no
boundary, there's no border to

the information field. So the
information field just keeps

going on infinitely, which means
that somehow we're connected to

everything on some level. And
you just need to allow that into

your awareness, we don't need
to, we don't need to be able to

define it, we don't need to have
a picture of it in mind, we just

want to accept that we don't
have all the information, right.

So without, without all the
information, we couldn't

possibly make a true decision,
we couldn't possibly know what's

truly right, what's truly
happening. So once you allow

that in, you recognize Okay, so
my perception is limited. I can

only perceive that which falls
inside my cone of perception and

my perceptual range. And if
you're not sure what that means,

or what that looks like, think
in terms of the visible spectrum

of light accounts for roughly 1%
of what's out there. So, based

on 1%, that's what you're
seeing, you're absolutely

convinced you know what's going
on, you're absolutely convinced,

you know what reality is? It's
like, No, we're saying 1%. So we

don't have all the information
pretty tough to make a real a

true decision about what's going
on. So when we step back and

say, Okay, I don't have all the
information. So that means I

can't make a decision. That
means I can't judge this as good

or bad. If I can't judge it, as
soon as there's no judgement,

eat instantly, all things become
equally acceptable, because you

just you can't judge. Now, when
things are equally acceptable.

Now, I'm no longer determining
reality. I'm no longer in a bad

financial situation saying this
is bad. Because my mind is

infinitely powerful. If I've
judged the situation and said,

This is bad. I've just
determined what reality is. I've

just decided that reality is bad
that this situation is bad. Now

I've got something more to
overcome, because I decided I

made a decision. Does that? Does
that make sense?

Victor Lagos: Yeah. So it's like
the information field is always

going on all around you. It's
infinite. And at some point, you

decide that that particular
piece of information is true for

me in this moment, but it that's
your decision. And if that truth

that you believe is true, is
limiting. It's not the actual

truth. It's, it's not true.

You've just convinced yourself
that it is in that moment. So

it's like you have to be aware
that that's an information in

the information field that
you've just pulled pulled out of

that. And it could be
unconscious, it probably is

because 95% it yourself is, is
unconscious, but then you become

aware of that, and then make a
decision that that's, that's

that's not me. That's not what
how I want to live. It's not who

I actually am. And then you kind
of just let it go, right?

Scott Robinson: Yeah, well,
you're only ever perceiving

fragments, right. And the brain,
the brain is the greatest

virtual virtual reality machine
in the known universe. Once you

begin to place your attention on
something, we need to make it

real. You think the way the
brain works, as soon as you see

a shadowy figure, you know, in a
dream, or you see a shadowy

figure in your model, you just
see any kind of image in your

mind, that doesn't quite make
sense. You need your mind will

start latching on to something
you might not start working

overtime, trying to make sense
of that image, right. And you'll

turn it into a picture, the only
way you can turn that into a

picture is to dive into your
data bank of memory and

experience and see if you can
find something or a combination

of things that look similar, and
then you'll make that picture.

Right, so you're only ever
perceiving fragments, because

you're only your perception, it
doesn't cover all the

information. And if you don't
immediately recognize what's

there, then you will make a
picture out of the sensory

stimuli out of those fragments
that you've perceived. Right? So

the way I describe it to people,
it's like saying imagine, all

the information in the
information field is like having

a one quadrillion piece, jigsaw
puzzle, all just jumbled out in

front of you. And that's all the
information, there's one

quadrillion pieces, but out of
those one quadrillion pieces,

you can perceive, you can see
somewhere in the order of

magnitude of 1020 pieces. Right
now, based on those 10 or 20

pieces, you're going to shape
that into a picture, you're

going to make it look like
something, right. And you'll

depending on what's in your
mind, you'll make it look good,

or you make it look bad, and
make it look something like it's

favorable or something that
looks pretty horrible. Like

you'll turn it into something,
and then you'll respond to that.

It's not the whole picture. It's
not the whole information, but

it's just become your reality.

And you're now responding to
your interpretation. And that's

the way the mind works. You are
never ever responding to facts.

You're never responding to that
entire information field. You're

only ever responding to your
interpretation of what you

believe is there. And the
instant that you recognize that,

then that takes your emotional
responses away takes those

emotional and defensive
reactions away. As soon as you

do that stress begins to drop
instantly. When you when the

brain becomes stressed, you are
less intelligent. So you could

be dealing with a really
challenging financial situation.

If you judge that as bad and
then you have the associated

stress response because that's
your interpretation. This is a

bad situation. I'm in trouble.

You start experiencing stress,
you're less you're less

intelligent instantly instantly
the brain starts shunting blood

from the prefrontal cortex back
to the brainstem and you're

making more Survival based
decisions from a lower level of

mind, right? And then you
problems feel bigger, they feel

more insurmountable, it feels
more challenging to try and get

out of that out of that
situation. If you can step back

and just recognize, I'm not
actually responding to facts,

I'm just, this is my
interpretation. Okay? All right,

what's the truth, so I make no
decision, what's the actual

truth. And then peace is the God
of truth, the choices for peace

can come into my awareness. So
that's like we said, awareness

is that first step, as soon as I
do that, I'm now placing my

awareness on the fact that there
must be a choice for peace

somewhere, then I can find it.

Previously, I might not have
been able to see it. Because if

I didn't have a belief in it,
but didn't have an awareness of

it, well, I won't have had the
perception that would allow me

to perceive it. So the whole
situation just continues to feel

bad. And that is you determining
your own reality, you made it,

you experienced some stimuli,
you interpreted it as bad, you

decided it was bad. And now
because you believe it's bad,

your belief system makes your
perception that perception is

only ever able to go out there
and find the reasons why what

you believe is true. So if you
decided something was bad, and

you now believe the situation is
challenging, and tough, and you

know, quite disastrous, you will
make the perception and allows

you to go and perceive all the
reasons why that's true. But if

you step back and just say,
actually, you know what?

Universe is perfect. I know,
this works out eventually, I

don't know how can't see for the
most of the life of me how this

works out. But I know the
universe is perfect. I know it

works out. Okay, can I just have
the truth? Can I just say, I'll

make no decisions, can I just
have the truth, the choices for

peace will then become begin to
become available, you begin to

make the perception that will
allow you to see that frequency.

And it's a really simple step.

And instantly, you become more
intelligent, because the brain

becomes less stressed. So your
problems usually start to you

start to feel that you have
options to choose and you start

to see different pathways.

Victor Lagos: Yeah, well,
that's, that's pretty, pretty

insightful stuff. Because as you
were talking, I was kind of

relating to, you know, my own
experiences and how I've sort of

perceive certain things. And
there's been times where I was

exactly like that was in I was
in this survival state. And when

there's a saying that I like is
that you can't, you can't

create, solve a problem in the
same state of mind that created

it, which a lot of people try to
do. And I've tried this in the

past, where you're in that lower
mind, you feel like you're in

trouble and everything, you sort
of, every time you sort of

analyze everything around you,
it feels much bigger than it

actually is. And, and it's kind
of like a spiral, the more

attention you give it, the more
the motion is stronger, and it

feels more and more real. So
it's harder to deny. And then

when you start perceiving
everything else in your life,

everything seems like a problem
going on, when it's actually

not. But in that moment, it does
feel that way. So it's like the

I guess it's a matter of just
Reese, like centering yourself.

It's like, basically, you know,
self regulating, regulating the

nervous system, connecting to, I
guess that that peace aspect,

going into a different mind a
higher mind again, and then you

can kind of, you know, take a
sort of zoomed out view of

what's actually going on, and
make a decision from from peace

and from truth, rather than from
that state of fear.

Scott Robinson: will use again,
you can use guidance, you can

use reason, you can use higher
reason, and a higher reason.

Again, it's not something that
really readily exists in the

world. So what you're talking
about is like you experienced a

challenging situation, like
things felt financially tough,

financially challenging, I then
decided it was definitely bad.

Now I have a belief that it's
bad because I made the decision.

Now I'm responding to my belief,
my perception about the

situation, which is just teeny
tiny fragments that I organized

into a picture that looks pretty
bad. I'm responding to that. Now

I'm having a stress response in
the brain and less intelligence.

So the problem that was this,
this big now seems even bigger,

because I've got less brain
processing capacity available to

be able to see my way out of it.

You don't even know what the
situation is actually supposed

to look like. Yeah, you're just
making it up from your own

perception, you have no idea
what the situation is even

supposed to look like. So all
you can decide in that moment is

Is this good? Or is it bad? And
do I need to exact some

retribution on somebody? But
really, that's all you got to

decide. If you slow down and say
let's go to higher reason and

see exactly what I'm talking
about before you say okay, I

understand. I know I don't know
how it works out. I don't know

how or why but I know the
universe is perfect. I know

everything works out for
everything happens for a reason.

And there's nothing bad in the
universe is like I know that

from that higher level of mind
that higher intelligence it only

gives. So I know this works out
for the life of me I can't see

what the choices are. I don't
know why or how I don't know why

I'd be experiencing this but you
know what, I'm prepared to make

no decisions and just sit with
it. Instantly. Again, like we

said, you remove once you once
you remove your decision, I

always say your decisions are
like a block in space, right?

They're literally like a block.

If you're determining what
reality is and the instant you

remove the decision you just
Drop those blocks, right, and

now the whole situation can
change. But if you continue to

make decisions about it that
something is good or bad, will

those blocks stay there and the
situation doesn't shift. So what

you were saying before was
absolutely perfect. It's so

true. Like once you've already
decided what the situation is,

you now have that reality that
you've decided for, you've got

that to overcome, right. And
this is the thing, this is the

kicker, because exactly what
you're talking about, like with

interest rates, and you know,
the world changing and things

feeling financially more
challenging. It's sharing,

that's you're, you're dealing
with a challenging idea, you've

decided something's bad. And
that's your idea. It's your idea

for stress, or your idea for
fear or your idea for poverty,

or whatever the idea is, it's
your idea, you then go and

express that and you share it
with others, or you go and hear

about other hard luck stories on
the news, or you hear it on the

radio, any idea that is shared
is increased by sharing, it's

worth it's really worth
remembering, because it's so

powerful and so true. And you
can do that negatively or

positively. But any idea that is
shared is increased by sharing.

So if you've got an idea that
you're dealing with a really

challenging financial situation,
and this is going to let's call

the idea for hardship, it's your
idea for hardship. No thought

ever leaves the mind of the
thinker. Right? That's your

idea. If you express your hard
luck story to me, and then I go,

Oh, my God, you know what, my
granddad had something similar.

And actually, you're right now I
can actually feel the emotions

for and then you see me feeling
emotional, you now know that

you've shared your idea with me,
I've just helped you concrete

that reality. Anytime it's still
your idea. It's still there. But

now it's here in my mind as
well. And I'm, I'm reflecting

that back at you via my
perception looking at you and

going oh, you poor thing, man, I
don't know how this poor bug is

gonna get out of this. Anywhere
sharing occurs between mines,

any level of sharing causes
created, cause and effect go

hand in hand. So by you sharing
that, but you sharing that and

you create a cause. And then you
both begin to feel the effects

and you feel the effects of
stress almost instantaneously,

right? And then we agree on
them. This is really definitely

bad, because I can feel it. I
can feel it in my gut, yes, no,

this wow, this is bad. Okay,
share that across an entire

population. Man, you've got some
big decisions. Now you got a

really challenging reality to
try and overcome. So the first

thing you want to do is just
step back, if you find yourself

in a situation that is not the
one that you envisage, is not

the one that you wanted for
financially or otherwise, health

wise, or any, any kind of
condition. First thing is become

solid in your thought system,
become solid, about just finding

peace become solid. And
understanding that things do

actually work out become solid,
about the vision that you want,

how you want things to actually
unfold, right? Once you become

clear and coherent in that, and
you're just consistent in that

and you're choosing for that.

Great, don't share that with
others. But rather than going

share your hard luck story with
others, and then increase that

reality, you can literally
increase the reality of peace,

you don't have to go and make
something up and say, tell

people that everything's amazing
and wonderful when it doesn't

feel that way. But you can
literally just slow down, remove

the decisions, even if you find
the tiniest little snippets of

piece, go and share that because
you'll increase that. And then

when you increase that piece,
you have less stress you can

then you're going to have
greater brain processing

capacity, you're going to see
more options, right? Really

simple way to go.

Victor Lagos: Yeah, I love that.

So it's like, because
automatically as, as, as human

beings, we love to connect with
others. And we're looking, you

know, unfortunately, a lot of
people when they're in that

state of mind, they're looking
for reassurance to reinforce the

feeling of being a victim. So
then they'll connect with other

people and share that and not
realize that, like you said that

making that more concrete than
now spreading that. Now someone

else is feeling that, and
reinforcing that belief within

you. They do it somewhere else.

And now you're spreading fear
problems is bigger and bigger

and gets bigger and bigger.

Yeah. Where it's like no, no,
before you go out and start

sharing that rear lot, realign
yourself with truth, get into

peace. And then when you're
there, you obviously, you're not

going to be sharing fear because
you're not feeling it. And then

you making a conscious decision
to share those moments of peace

when you have them.

Scott Robinson: When you say
where your attention goes, your

energy flows, and neural
connection grows. So it's like

if you place your attention on
fear, well, that's your

attention, your energy is going
to that. And then you're going

to build neural connections
around perceiving more fear. If

you however small, however
miniscule, if you can perceive

any level of peace, take your
attention there, that's a

choice. Take your attention to
where the pieces, your energy

goes there instantly, you're
going to make it bigger, you're

going to make it appear bigger
in your visual field or in your

perceptual range. That exactly
use the brain harness the power

of the brain exactly the way you
know that it works. You know

that your brain can't look at
something it doesn't understand

and not make a picture out of
it. So go look at this piece

thing, however small it is.

Allow your brain to go make a
picture out of that it'll find

you will start to manifest all
the reasons why that is real and

why that is true. And every time
you're looking at it. You're

making new neural connections
because you're driving Energy

there, you make a new neural
connections around perceiving

this frequency of peace. It's
really simple. And exactly what

you're saying about when people
try and share, you need to just

appreciate the way you're
sharing and the way that you're

interacting with others. Because
exactly right, like you say,

people want to go and be there
for others and have connection.

But you want to do that in a
true sense. You don't need to go

and share misery, misery loves
company. So if you've

experienced experiencing misery,
the first thing you wanna do is

go and share that with others.

And then if they buy into it,
and believe it will, then you'll

just increase the amount of
misery that's there. Now, I'm

not saying that you don't have
that you have to just shut up

and never speak about it. But
what you want to feel empathy

for, you want to use empathy,
truly. And so when we're talking

about this high level of mine,
there's infinite intelligence

that permeates the entire
system, the true self is

perfect. The universe is
perfect, true self is perfect,

that true self is limitless,
right? If there's an infinite

field of intelligence, which
there is, and quantum science is

all is all of this, and like
now, we're starting to unfold

this and have more of an
awareness of it. But there's an

infinite intelligence which
exists, and you have a level of

mind that's connected to it.

Well, that would mean if you're
connected to that you are a

genius, you have this limitless
intelligence within you, and you

have access to that you may not
have trained it, you may not

have ever paid attention to it,
you might not know how to

consciously do that right now.

But it's available. Right? That
would make you a genius, right?

That means you are a limitless
genius. Now, that that's the

truth of self, you're limitless,
you're perfect, you're you are

this limitless genius. How could
it be and to empathize is to

identify with. So if you look at
the way that humanity uses

empathy, we use it really
untruly will use empathy, to

empathize with things that we
are truly not. So the truth is,

you are love, you are free,
you're abundant, you're

limitless, you're a genius,
you're all the things, you're

infinitely powerful, you have
all of these things available to

you. And that is the truth of
what you are at the deepest of

levels. But the way we see being
helpful is our that person's

feeling sad, you know what I bet
if I go and feel the sadness

with them, then I can be
helpful. Well, if the true self

is perfect, we can't come out of
the joy that's eternal within

you. Right? That's within you.

And this is this is just at a
deep level of just deep truth.

If the true self is always
peaceful, always perfect, always

abundant, always loving, always
free, which it is. But that's an

eternal things do not change.

This is again, deepest levels of
self, most things don't change.

That's what you truly are at
your core, right? To identify

with something that you're not
to identify with sadness,

identify with weakness, identify
with pain, identify with

suffering, that's identifying
with something that you're not

so going and holding empathy for
something that you're not

couldn't be truly helpful, you'd
have to give up all that, that

limitless intelligence, you'd
have to give up all of that

limitless joy and peace that's
in you, you'd have to give that

up first. So you could go and
feel the sadness of your friend.

And then once you've given up
all your ability and power to

help and you feeling the truce
and the sadness of your friend,

then you say, Hey, I get it.

Now. We're both crying together.

How can I be helpful? And you
can't, all you've done is you've

just increased, you've just
increased the sadness. Yeah,

right. And so yes, that person
feels supported. Wonderful. But

now that reality seems more
concrete, yeah. Right. So you

don't have to reject that by any
stretch. It's not what we're

saying is you would just feel
empathy for these true

characteristics, you feel
empathy, for the joy that's in

you, the piece that's in you
that limitless is intelligence

that's in you. Because if you
feel empathy for that, and you

identify with that, when you
offer a vision of that, you

offer some level of connection
to that to this person who's

looking for help. Right. So when
we talk about feeling empathy,

like people are dealing with,
with challenging situations,

rather than try and dive into
going, poor thing, like, I don't

know how that I don't know how
this is gonna work out, this

seems really tough. Well, you
can give love to that you can

give love and you can give
support, wonderful, but you

don't have to feel those
emotions, you know, and however

it is that you managed to stay
connected to that high level of

mine that which is true, which
you again, the gods do, which

will be paste the gods which
will be ease, just staying in

that emotional state, that's
gonna be so much more helpful.

Even if you've never looked at
this stuff, never thought of it

before. Just staying peaceful
and staying peaceful and staying

in that state of effortlessness
that state of ease as best you

can, is going to be so much more
helpful because you offer on

some level to that subconscious
mind in front of you, you're

offering them a path towards
finding this, like you're

showing them an example. And
mirror neurons fire, once mirror

neurons start firing that system
on a subconscious level is

literally trying to mimic this
system. Right. So if you give,

if you give an example of
something higher, you're

offering a lifeline, you're
offering a lifeline for them to

find a way out.

Victor Lagos: So it's, yeah,
it's one of those things where

everyone can relate at some
point or another when someone

has gone through some sort of,
you know, loss, or, you know,

they're in some sort of pain and
they want to they want to

empathize and you're right. They
want to feel what they feel to

show them that they care. But
they actually just essentially

said letting go of that
limitless, limitless self and

reducing themselves was to do
that same low level and

reinforcing it. So how can
someone really empathize say

it's a family member, or it's a
partner, and they're going

through some stuff, but you're
gonna say you're on a personal

trajectory, and you're, you're
finding peace on a daily level.

And they're going, you're
someone you care about is going

through something and they're
suffering. where that person is

suffering is not going to look
at you, like you have no heart

because you're not hurting like
they are. But you're still

feeling good about life. And you
know what I mean, you're not

letting those emotions in? Is
that something hard to navigate?

Or is this also my own personal
perception? Am I making that up?

Or is it something that people
cannot?

Scott Robinson: It's really
easy, but the way it's done in

the world will feel really hard?

Yeah. Because people don't have
answers for that. Yeah. So the

first thing I always say is you
just have an awareness that

there's something more have an
awareness that there's a there's

another way of doing this as
another way of looking at it.

Now, the way you get free of it.

And again, whether this is
financial, whether it's health,

whether it's physical, whether
whatever it is, the way you get

out of it is actually
forgiveness. Now, to know what

that isn't, understand that you
need to understand what true

forgiveness is. And so again,
this is and this, I would

encourage anyone is using this
just to just remain open, make

no decisions, just let this in.

Because the way that forgiveness
works in the world, I'm going to

tie this back to a financial
situation in a moment, but we

need to understand what the
forgiveness is because that's

the path out. So the way the
world does forgiveness is the

world sees, okay, there's a
wound, someone hurt me or

something bad happened, it was a
bad financial situation, or

someone did something bad to me.

In this case, if it's a bad
financial situation, it's the

world the world's economic
situation did something bad to

me. Now, it could be a wound, it
could be a trauma that somebody

you know, someone's been
attacked, been hurt by someone,

but it's like there's a word,
there's a word you're dealing

with. And then the way that the
world sees forgiveness is you

would go to the person, the
situation or the thing that you

see having hurt you at whatever
point and you would go and you

would look at that person,
either face to face or via

intention, because the brain
doesn't know the difference

between a real or imagined
stimulus. So you don't have to

be face to face. But you would
go either intentionally or face

to face, you would go and say,
Hey, listen, remember that thing

you did remember that bad thing
that happened? You kind of cause

you know, like to be thinking
about the government having

changed the interest rates, or
the the RBA has changed things.

Whoever whomever it is that you
see as having done the wrong,

you will be looking at them and
saying, Hey, remember that bad

thing you did? Like it really
hurt. Like, you've really

screwed me here. This is tough.

So you know what, like, I just
recognize me hang on to this

pain and whatnot, it's no good.

And I understand I want to go
somewhere higher. So I'm gonna

retain the evidence, like, look
at it, I've still got the scar,

it's right there. But I'm gonna
retain the evidence. But you

know what, I'm gonna be the
bigger person and are the two of

us, I'm gonna forgive you, right
now, that can only end in tears.

That's the way the world does
forgiveness. And it does. It can

only perpetuate suffering.

That's all it can do. Right?

Because number one, if we're
talking about that true self,

that limitless Infinite
Intelligence and that true self,

which is perfect will that would
demand that you give up your

divine rights to be perfect. And
acknowledge that you got a wound

and that you hurt like you
can't, you couldn't possibly

ever be perfect or be that true,
limitless self if you're wounded

and damaged. Right, so you have
to give that up first. And then

the second thing is it's
unjustified. Like you're

acknowledging that Iran was done
and then you're gonna go and

forgive someone for it. Like
that's, that's not going to

work, you're still going to know
on some level and you telling

them like, I've still got the
scar, I'm still hurt it so they

must steal it, they must have
done a wrong, unjustified

forgiveness is attack that
maintains it wrong can be done,

it maintains that I can be hurt.

And it'll just happen again. And
again, and again. So that

perpetuates suffering. The only
true way to do forgiveness is to

really check in and get clear
about that true self. And the

true self is one with an
infinite intelligence that true

self is perfect, and it doesn't
change, right? That true self is

just something much higher. And
there's always a connection to

that we have that level of mind
that can connect with that. So

as soon as you place your eyes
on that, as soon as you place

your some level of attention on
the fact that there's something

more something more perfect,
something that's in vulnerable.

As soon as you place your
attention on that you begin to

have that you begin to remember
that. So true. Forgiveness is

just remembering that all these
emotions that are coming from

this situation that are
perceived right now. That's the

moment of forgetting, that's a
moment of just forgetting that I

am something more that there is
something more available than

the truth that there is this
limitless in general

intelligence, which just
maintains perfection, always.

The instant that I forgive
myself for having forgot all of

that will I'm taking my
attention back towards it. And

I'll begin to feel peace, and
you literally just set yourself

free. So this is the first step
is literally just holding

forgiveness. So your whole
forgiveness for the fact that

you forgot because as soon as
you do that, you become

something more like you're
stepping into that mind that

level of mind that can see the
way out you're stepping into

that level of mind that can find
the peace in that situation.

Right. So that's the first step
when when you set your question

was you see a family member
who's suffering and they're

dealing with a really
challenging situation. You don't

want you now where you don't
want to really concrete them

into any more suffering, but I
don't know what how do I do

this? Well, if I'm feeling hurt
if I'm feeling challenged by

seeing them, well, the true self
can't be hurt. So the first It

would be off, just forgive
myself, Okay, I'm in a moment of

forgetting I'm feeling some
hurt, I'm feeling some stress

here, I'm going to forgive
myself because I've forgotten

that I'm limitless. And I can't,
I've clearly forgotten that.

Soon as you do that, you start
to feel some more peace, you can

then give them the same
forgiveness. It doesn't have to

be out loud. But you can keep
them the same forget

forgiveness, because they're
suffering. So it's like, okay,

they obviously have forgotten
that they're limitless and

perfect as well. Soon as you do
that, you'll find the stress of

the situation comes down. And
there's an amazing thing to do

do this in your relationships.

It's an amazing thing when your
partner is saying some words to

you or anyone's attacking you.

And the first thing you do is
just forgive yourself. Forgive

yourself at Oh, hang on, that
actually triggered me, right.

Oh, dammit, I forgot that I'm
perfect again. Okay, let's just

forgive me really quickly. And
you just watch the stress come

down. straightaway. It's
amazing. Any level of attack,

any level of attack that's
coming at you if you connect

with your invulnerability? Well,
that means you can't be hurt.

That means that that attack,
whatever it was, it can't do

anything. If he can't hurt you,
then it has no effect. So

straightaway, the one who's
doing the attacking ceases to be

doing the attacking, because
they're not actually doing

anything they'd be you give them
the opportunity to recognize

like, Oh, this is not, this is
not working. Yeah. So true

forgiveness is that first step,
as soon as you do that, you take

the stress down, and now you can
begin to see another way. And

that's, that's the key,
incidentally, by doing that,

you're turning your attention to
that limitlessness of self to

wherever the connection is that
connects to that limitless

intelligence that does have the
answers. And as soon as you do

that, and again, you can start
to get that intuition that like,

Ah, I'm just feeling more
peaceful. Okay, right. I just

think, okay, I still don't
understand it. My conscious mind

hasn't caught up yet. But I can
feel into those feelings. And I

can hold my attention on those
feelings. And then the reasons

why I feel peaceful will begin
to come into my perceptual

awareness. And then my choices
start to unfold. This choice now

I started thinking about
solutions. Because that first

step, first step is forgiveness.

Because you when you forgive
yourself for forgetting,

instantly, you become more, and
now you're more capable.

Victor Lagos: Yeah. So it's
like, when you you mentioned

when someone else, you know, the
attack is coming from somewhere

else, and you remind yourself
that, oh, I actually forgot that

I'm limitless. So in that
moment, I felt the pain I felt

the suffering, I felt the misery
I felt, whatever it is, and I

forgive myself for forgetting.

If your face a lot of the time,
it's a pattern from your own

past experiences, and your
intent in internally attacking

yourself. So it's like another
side of you, which is not, it's

not you. It's a pattern, right?

It's a belief system. Its
programming. It's, it's a past

experience and your perception
of that past experience. That's

repeating itself, right? Because
they say that, you know, things

will keep repeating themselves
until you learn the lesson. And

the lesson is that you must
forgive yourself for forgetting.

And then it passes, right. And
so now, you're no longer in this

internal conflict. So you're not
finding yourself saying, you

know, I want to feel better, but
you make me feel bad. This is

you saying this inside this,
right? And then that voice

stops, and it becomes more of a
supporting voice.

Scott Robinson: Yeah, just
forgiveness is just this most

divine perfect gift that
literally gives you everything.

And just the way the world does,
it is just bastardize. It's just

perverted into something very
different that perpetuates

suffering. So when you
understand it truly, it's like,

Ah, I don't need because again,
if I'm invulnerable, that's what

the true self is. If I'm
invulnerable, well, then I can't

be hurt. If I can't be hurt.

Well, there was no harm. There's
no harm. Where's the foul? Yeah.

Ah, so instantly now there's
that now there's no wrong that

was done. When there's no wrong
that was done. Or there's

nothing to forgive? Ah, okay. I
forgot that I was alright. It's

just forgetting. I just forgot,
I forgot that. And that's, it's

so simple. It's such a simple
way to go. Now, for anyone who's

sitting out there because again,
when you're in, when you when

this is coming into your
awareness for the first time,

literally, what will be jumping
into the mind into your mind

will be, you know, okay, yeah,
but but how but how do I do that

with this situation where, you
know, I don't have any money at

the moment? Well, again, the
first thing you need to do is

come back and recognize, okay,
that's not a question. Because

the way you get out is what you
get out of the situation, is by

making an honest question. And
again, honest questions are one

of those things that just
doesn't really exist in the

world. So when you're sitting
here hearing this and going,

okay, forgiveness great, sounds
wonderful. But what about the

situation that I've got right
now, that's really tough and

really challenging, right? Well
listen to the language and

listen to the thought process.

There's, there's decisions that
you've made about that. So if

you've decided this is bad, and
this is challenging, this is

hard. Nothing's going to change
that because you've decided for

it. So you would need to first
just step back and say, okay,

and I make no decisions. Just
because I don't have the full

picture. I don't have all the
information. So what that

instantly now the situation is
becomes whatever this is It just

is. It just is what it is. I'm
not gonna say it's good. I'm not

gonna say it's bad. I'm just
gonna say, I don't know, I don't

have all the information. And
then the question is, how do I

find peace? Or how do I find
abundance? How do I get to

what's true? How do I see the
truth of what is the GIF? What's

true is that the universe is
perfect, or how do I say that?

And you can, that's an honest
question. But if I say, but hang

on, how does this Okay, great.

Sounds wonderful, Scott, but
how? Like, how does this fix my

reality? Because my reality
sucks at the moment, you know,

I'm dealing with some like some
real hardship, that's a

decision, nothing's going to
overpower your decision. So we

just need to be willing to step
away from our decisions. First,

be with whatever be with what is
not saying it's good, not saying

it's bad. We're just gonna say
we don't have the information.

And then you can ask him one
last question, which is, how to

find peace? How do I find
freedom? How do I find joy? How

do I find abundance? How do I
just see the truth of what is

and then things can begin to
change? Does that make sense?

Just have to let go the
decisions first?

Victor Lagos: Yeah, it does.

It's like you're, you're not
making decisions while you're in

the law of mind. And just even
by asking you a question, like,

how can I get out of this?

You're already asking a question
that reinforces that reality?

Yep. So you don't ask that
question?

Scott Robinson: Well, if you
say, how do I get out of this,

inherent within this is the
decision that this is bad,

there's something there's
something not right, there's

something to fix, there's
something broken, right, that in

itself is a decision. So again,
we need to be willing to let go

of that. And again, think of
this that limitless intelligence

and the way you're going to
connect with it, think of it in

terms of how the brain works. So
when we say as soon as you're

experiencing stress, you're less
intelligent, right? So you're

losing access to whatever's
highest, you know, you're

certainly not going to connect
with infinite intelligence. At

that point, you barely got
access to you, your executive

centers when you're really
stressed. So you would need to

find peace first, you would need
to have no resistance. And so

the condition of that real
reality where that Infinite

Intelligence and true self and
that limitlessness of self, the

condition of that reality where
you can experience all of that

the condition is no opposition,
because reality opposes nothing.

Reality just is what it is. It's
forever just going to be itself.

It doesn't apply. It doesn't go
against anything. It just is.

Right. So for you to get there.

And for you to find that peace
for you to get the answers

you're looking for, you would
first need to meet with the

conditions, it would make sense
that if all the answers exist in

this real reality, where there's
no opposition, well, there's

peace there. There's
effortlessness there, there's

ease there, if I'm existing in
stress, so there's peace, which

is higher, and then I'm existing
in stress, which is much lower,

I'm just at this lower frequency
just running around looking for

answers I'm using and again, I
would be that stress would be

coming from the resistance, the
resistance that I have to the

situation saying, How do I get
out of this? Like, that's me

using resistance saying, I'm
rejecting this to try and go

somewhere else, right, somewhere
else that I'm looking to get to,

there's no resistance, there's
just effortlessness. There's no,

like, there's no opposition
there. So if I'm using

resistance to try and get to a
place of no resistance, I'm

never gonna get there. Yeah. So
I would need to first be willing

to just let go and say, Okay,
it's just whatever it is. And

how do I find the answers? How
do I find peace? How do I find

truth? How do I get to that? How
do I get to that state of being

where I have the answers, or if
I, you know, I have everything

that I need.

Victor Lagos: So to tie it back
to financial freedom, when

someone's in a, you know,
they've had a feeling of

scarcity, I don't have enough,
not worthy of enough. You know,

I've come from a poor family,
you know, you know, money is the

root of all evil, and all these
sorts of things that people sort

of attach to, they just have to
really, one, remind themselves

that they are limitless, and
that abundance is, is real, and

let go of that old feeling,
because they're not giving it

any more of their attention and
not deciding that then making

decisions from there, because
that's not the truth. And that

will automatically pass or do
they need to go deeper and

actually learn where did that
stem from in at some point to

let it go,

Scott Robinson: it will be what
it'll be for each person will be

unique and individual because
your your life's experience and

your culture and the programs
that you've got from your

parents will be unique to you.

So the way that you've got your
mind set up and like the the

illusion of your own perceptual
reality that you created will be

unique and individual to you.

And that's what people say, when
they're saying, Well, I have my

truth. I have my truth. All
you're saying is like, I know

what I perceive. And because my
belief system is unique and

individual will my perception is
unique and individual. So the

reality I perceive is unique and
individual to me, has nothing to

do with truth. I just call it my
truth. Yep. Right. So what you

would need to do is just
recognize so that scarcity, so

that comes from programs, right?

There'll be something in your
mind that makes you believe in

loss. There is something in the
mind that makes you believe that

you don't have enough. Now, we
need to just look at perception

because again, like we said, You
don't experience anything

outside of your mind, right?

Because everything that you
experience is simply your

perception. It's simply what you
perceive. And you're the one

that's generating that. So the
whole world that you experience

happens for you, it happens
inside your mind. Yeah, right,

we need to appreciate that, then
you need to appreciate

perception. Perception has one
law. And let's first understand

how people do it normal and how
people use it. And then we'll

look at the one law. So the way
people use their perception is

you perceive, you see things.

And then when you see things,
you feel things, because you

respond to them, you feel
emotions, you have emotional

reactions. And then typically,
as you just go through, you're

learning the world, you
literally you see things because

you see something, and then you
feel something that goes with

it, you say, well, that's
definitely true, because I saw

it, I felt it. And now I learned
that that was a good situation,

sign, I'm gonna store that good
information in memory. Or

conversely, it was a bad
situation, I store that to

memory. And then I'm learning
how to do the world via my

perception, I'm using my
perception exclusively, as my

test for reality. That's what
I'm using to test reality.

That's basically what everybody
does, right. And you learn the

world that way. And you store
all these programs to memory,

all this past understanding, and
then you just respond to every

present moment, based on the
understanding that you've got in

the mind. And by the time you're
about 30, to 35, you've got this

whole bank of information and
programs in the mind, you can

just completely run
unconsciously, you can just run

subconscious programs. And
that's largely what everybody

does. And that's come through
using perception completely

upside down. That's completely
upside down to how perception

actually works. The way
perception works is there's one

law, one law of perception, and
all other rules and laws come

from this. And if you can get
it, you can change everything.

You can only see what you
believe, right, you can only

perceive what you actually
believe is there in the first

place place, and it's available
to be perceived, you can only

only perceive what you believe
is actually there, right? But

you only believe what you want.

Which means whatever you
perceive, and this is true in

every situation doesn't matter
how good or how joyous it

doesn't matter how cruel or how
random or how strange, because

the perception that you
experience, that's your

interpretation. What you're
perceiving always is an outside

picture of your inner desires.

Right now, that sounds really
harsh, and a lot of people will

immediately jump to an emotional
reaction of like, you're saying,

This is my fault, and you're
blaming me, there's never that

is never ever, ever blame.

There's no wrong that you can
do. There's nothing wrong that

you've done, right? You want
that to be the case, your ego,

your lower level of mind wants
you to get offended, it wants

you to say you just blame me How
dare you say that? You're just

telling me that I'm, you know,
blind my whole life? Well, your

ego wants you to say that
because when you have that

emotional reaction, translate
that translate what the ego is

saying. It's saying, How dare
you tell me that I'm so

limitlessly powerful that I can
change all of this. Because the

your desires, if the your
desires, you can change your

desires, if what you're seeing
and experiencing is an outside

picture of your desires, whether
your desires, they must be why

you can change them, that makes
you limitlessly powerful to

change your whole world. So you
want to let that in, you want to

just allow it Okay, well, look,
what I'm experiencing right now

is not what I consciously want
for. So there must be some dark

desires in my unconscious mind
that just don't line up with the

conscious ones. Okay, well, how
do we do that? How do we change

that, and then you can set about
finding those things. And so

what you're looking for, is you
can see the outputs, if you're

experiencing hardship, if you're
experiencing pain, if you're

experiencing sickness, if you're
experiencing loss, whatever it

is, you can recognize that must
be coming from from deep desires

in the unconscious mind. If they
don't line up with what you

truly desire for well, then you
know, there's some healing to be

done. Sometimes they'll be
forgiveness, a lot of times

we'll be reaching out to ask for
help from someone, but there'll

be some healing work that needs
to be done, you can do probably

what most people do is just look
towards the opposite, and try

and say like, Okay, well, if
feels like I'm experiencing

loss, then I need to somehow put
beliefs in the mind about

abundance. Yeah, I would say
that rarely. That's precisely

what it is that you would need.

Because it just always seems to
be something that's unexpected,

because you're dealing with a
wound or some, you know, some

belief that was shifted a long
time previous. But you just need

to look at the outputs of your
life recognize, if you recognize

that really what you're seeing
is an output of your desires,

then you just recognize you're
limitlessly powerful to change

your desires, and be really
clear, okay, if I consciously

want for joy and for peace and
for freedom, well, there has to

be both things are real, which
they are, then they have to be

available, their eternal, they
have to be available in every

single situation, which means
there has to be a way that you

can see them, there has to be a
way that you can adjust your

perception, you can adjust your
interpretation of the situation,

so that you can actually see
those things. There has to be a

way there always is you would
need to be willing to want for

it you would need to be willing
to want for those things more

than you want for the for the
pain or the loss or the sadness,

you would need it because if you
want for it, well then you go

looking for it. Okay, but it's
the belief that makes the

perception and it's the desire
that that makes the belief. So

again, the belief makes the
perception that perception

generates your x perience of
reality, right, which means and

this is the, this is the key,
you're the cause you are the

cause the world, what you're
experiencing is the effect,

because you can change the lens
of perception that you're using

in every single situation, okay?

And it just, it comes down to
the desire to want to choose for

that. And once if you have the
desire, even if you don't know

how to do it yourself, will
you'll seek for help. And you'll

you'll find a way to do that.

Yeah.

Victor Lagos: Well, you've,
you've shared a lot, and really

valuable insights. And you and I
were talking before, before the

show about potentially helping
the listeners who want to be

part of a group session, really
around dealing with these old

emotions, of scarcity of not
feeling good enough, you know,

hitting those roadblocks, you
know, the desires, obviously,

they're, they're listening to
this podcast, because they have

a desire to create financial
freedom, a lot of them are in

debt, and none of them are
wanting to get out of debt, but

you know, use it in the right
way to help them to create

wealth. So for those listeners,
who do want to have, you know, a

group session, who want to meet
Scott who want to learn, and

apply some of these, you know,
techniques that they can do

during the session, right, it's
not something that you always

have to take away, and it's
gonna take you time and this

whole idea that it has to be
effort, it's not about efforts,

but effortlessness. And, but you
got to learn what to do,

someone's gonna guide you, you
know, Scott guided me, and

there's still a lot more that
you caught me on with. So if you

are interested in doing sort of
a group healing session, Scott

and I are going to talk more
about putting somebody together,

that's really sort of tackling
more around that financial

freedom. And we'll see where
that where that goes. What I

would say is, we want to see how
much interest there is first,

and then we can package
something up. So if you want to

send an email to contact at
loggers financial.com au, and

just put in the subject, the
brain guy, because that's,

that's got so that's where
people can find you. They call

you the brain guy.

Scott Robinson: Yeah. And I
think thing just to understand

with that is really simple, is
you can people talk about

manifesting abundance and
changing the programming so they

can change and have, you know,
have limitlessness have

abundance have the freedom that
they're looking for. That's

wonderful, you can receive that.

But if you've noticed an output
in your life where you seem to

be blocking it, and people
talking about self sabotage is

like things seem to be going
well, and then just that they're

just falls apart. I don't know
why I don't know, how are I, I

seem to make a wrong choice. And
it all falls apart. It's like,

this is subconscious
programming, programming. And

it's making you unconsciously
make choices make decisions that

literally, that make the
subconscious belief in loss, or,

you know, or scarcity that makes
that belief, right, like we

said, your perception can only
ever go out there and find the

reasons why what you believe is
right. And so you'll make the

choices. And sometimes that
perception is you making the

choices, making the decisions
that undo your success, so that

you can be right about the
scarcity, you'll be right about

the loss. So the amazing thing
that I find in in those group

sessions is you will be given
what you truly need, you can

receive that. But once you've
received it, then we go to the

priority illusion in the mind
the priority resistance that

you've set up in the mind that
has you blocking the thing that

you truly want. And then we'll
just go and give forgiveness to

that. And it's quite an amazing
thing is like, you'll just get

guided to something some fear
from age eight, or some

judgmental and some opinion of
someone else who judged you as

something less than age five, or
six or 20, or whenever it was,

but your mind will know exactly
where it is your mind already

has the answers. All we need to
do is be able to just step back

and ask the right questions, ask
the right questions, the mind

will just take us exactly where
you need to go. And you can

literally get those things out
of the way.

Victor Lagos: Yeah, amazing.

Yeah, I actually found Scott
through a contact of mine,

Stephen, who spoke really highly
of you, you know, experienced

exactly that he's going through
some challenges. And you helped

him get through that. I gave it
a go. Same thing. And then I

spoke to him recently, and he's
seen you again. So it's not,

there's always I guess you can
get deeper and deeper, right?

It's not just about doing all in
one hit. It's not it's not like

a sprint. But it depends on the
individual because sometimes it

can be just one session.

Scott Robinson: Yeah, well, this
is the thing. So in medical

terms they talk about in a
spontaneous remissions because

they said, using the word
miracle is just uncomfortable in

a medical scientific space,
right. But the miracle is

limitless. Nothing miracle can't
do. But you can only experience

as much of it as you're willing
to allow. So when we talk about

those decisions, we say as much
as many of those decisions as

were willing to allow to just
get out of the way. Like, to

whatever degree we're prepared
to allow ourselves to flatten

that landscape so that the
miracle or the limitless level

of mind can just come through
and change things you can have.

Right? And if you want to tread
slowly and Go carefully, you can

you know, but it's like so when
people talk about layers in

healing, or you know, like going
back and doing a progressive

approach and other progressive
approach another progressive

session. Yeah, that can
absolutely happen. But the

instant that you become willing
to let it all go, you can just

go leaping forward in leaps and
bounds so you can change the

whole world in one session. If
you're willing and open, and

again, there's no right or wrong
to that, you know, but it's

like, it's literally you'll
always get be given, you might

not know what you're open for.

And you'll always be given
what's truly right for you. So I

just always say to people really
when you're coming to see me,

because it's brain, because it's
mind, there's nothing we can

affect, you are literally
turning up to improve everything

in your life. And you don't have
to just sit on the sidelines and

wait for years and years and
years, and hope that's just

going to happen, you can just
choose like, you know what,

let's go do this today. Just
like you can just do that. And

then that's what those group
sessions were set up for their

setup. Because what I noticed
was the people that were coming

and seeing me with any level of
consistency, their lives were

just taking off, and further and
more and more and more and

experiencing greater and greater
things. So it's like, okay, if

we set up some group sessions,
where people can just they're

more accessible, and people can
just turn up whenever they

choose was like, Well, whenever
you choose, you can just go and

improve your life. What a
fantastic concept. Yeah, like, I

just choose to make my life
better today. Let's do that.

Like, okay, that's best. That's
basically what we're talking

about.

Victor Lagos: I'm sure there's
going to be listeners, now they

want to connect with you. Where
can they find you?

Scott Robinson: So I'm on
Instagram and Facebook as the

dot brain dot guy, or there's a
website, the brandguide.co. Or,

if there's all contact details
via those platforms, one or you

can shoot me an email, I'm
really happy to answer questions

or just try and help. That's,
that's really all I want to do.

Just I'm here to help.

Victor Lagos: sizing. Look,
thank you so much for coming in

today. It's definitely really,
really appreciated, because I

know you had to come across
through traffic in Sydney, it's

not easy. And you're just doing
great work. So I just want to

acknowledge you for that you've
helped me and I'm sure there's a

lot of people out there that can
speak highly of you, you've got

a lot of followers, it's a
really good sign, because people

are watching you. So if you do
want to follow Scott, the brain

guy, you'll find him on the
social platforms, watch his

videos. And if you can, to be
part of the group session, reach

out to me, if you want to do his
direct group sessions, it can be

any type or even one to ones you
can book that through his

website. Thanks again,

Scott Robinson: I thank you,
Victor, thank you so much for

having us. Thank you for just
making the space to for the

conversation. And to anyone
who's listened this far into it,

you absolutely have my
gratitude. And the thing that I

very often offer. And I think
today is definitely one of those

is if you've listened this far,
wonderful, take whatever you've

gotten out of it, and put that
into play in your life. And I

hope you get great, great value,
but come back in three months or

six months time after you've
just been running with that new

level of awareness or new
programming. And listen again,

because there'll be a whole
other frequency of information

and a whole other depth of
information that you may not

have been aware of. And you'll
just get more get more out of

it.

Victor Lagos: Yeah, that's great
advice. Suck. When you read a

book the second time around,
you're noticing that you didn't

notice the first time

Scott Robinson: Yeah, so the
brain is just there's always

more always more fun. Yeah.

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