Adrienne (00:01.583)
Hi everybody and welcome back to the SheLeads Podcast. This podcast and all of our episodes are brought to you by the SheLeads Podcast Network. The podcast network for women by women. I'm so excited today because I have a very special guest who has also been a speaker at the SheLeads Live Conference. Her name is Alicia Diggs Chavis and she is an energy.
She's a certified master energy healer and intuitive coach that uses sacred geometry and sound healing to change lives. Alicia works with people addressing physical and emotional pain, stress, and trauma from everyday life. She also works with businesses and entrepreneurs in order to shift their energy so that they can do great things in this world.
I'm so excited to welcome you to the She Leads Podcast, Alicia. Let's get into it.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (01:00.842)
Okay, Adrienne, thank you so much. I'm so happy to be here. Thanks for having me.
Adrienne (01:05.887)
I am so excited to talk to you sort of post-conference because we didn't get a chance to talk really. And I just want to mention that it was so wonderful having you at the conference for a variety of reasons. But one of them was that it was really stressful during the conference, sort of, I don't know if it was before it got started or in the middle of it. And I know I was feeling...
this really, really like nervous type of energy. Of course I wanted everything to go well. And I came to you and said, could you help me? And you were able to sort of sit me down and we were sitting near a window. And there was, after you did your magic, right? I really tuned into, tuned into what was going on with me and feeling that and guiding me through
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (01:54.926)
Hehehehe
Adrienne (02:02.331)
this profound experience, I literally felt that energy, that weight, that nervousness. It flew out the window and it was real. Oh my gosh, it was wild to say the least.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (02:18.21)
That was one of the best experiences I've had, Adrienne. First of all, it was an honor to serve you in that way. I'm always honored and I don't take it lightly when people let me tap into their energy like that. When you felt that release, I don't know if you remember, you just started laughing. This giggle came out and then you started laughing and I looked at you and you're like, it just left out. That was amazing.
Adrienne (02:38.58)
I did.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (02:47.754)
I won't take credit to say that I did it. I'm a channel, so I channel, right? I'm channeling the energy to help those things happen and I can help focus the energy to help those things happen. But you being open to it is 95% of what makes it work and what makes it possible. So kudos to you for that. And then you went on to have a fabulous conference and no one would have ever known.
Adrienne (03:03.167)
Hmm
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (03:15.99)
that you had those little jitters going on because you were just awesome.
Adrienne (03:16.)
Yes!
Adrienne (03:20.215)
Oh, thank you so much. So let's talk all about you, because you are highly accomplished, incredibly educated, and you also have shifted from the corporate world into more of the spiritual and energy realm. I'd love to kind of take a step back and hear about your journey, because this is, people come out of corporate, maybe they start their own businesses.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (03:25.014)
Okay.
Adrienne (03:46.807)
I don't really meet a lot of people that go from corporate into the spiritual energy world. They often just focus on the business. And you have your own business, but your first focus is really helping people with their energy. So could you just kinda take us back to when you were maybe in high school and what you were thinking that you wanted to do with your life?
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (04:12.462)
Absolutely, I'd be happy to. So when I was in high school, I was a good student. And so I was in the mode that it's all about college. College is going to happen. I'm going to go get a high powered job and make lots of money, that type of thing, the way that we're all kind of trained and formed and conditioned, right? So I had the opportunity to attend Harvard. I did. And I wanted to go into international business. So international business.
Business undergrad is just not a thing at Harvard, right? So I figured that I was going to need to go to grad school afterwards, which still fell in the flow, it was okay. But I got to my senior year and there was just something in the back of my mind kind of noodling at me saying, grads, more school is not the thing right now. That's not the thing to do. I didn't know what it was gonna be and.
I was getting nervous because graduation was getting closer and here my parents had put out all this money for me to get this fabulous degree in education. And I was like, oh gosh, this is embarrassing one and this is, it's scary. Like what are the next steps? What are the next steps? I was walking through the student union one day and you know how something jumps out to you like a camera lens just zooms in on it?
Adrienne (05:16.431)
Mmm.
Adrienne (05:21.044)
Thank you.
Adrienne (05:34.155)
Hmm
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (05:35.466)
walking through the student union and the camera lens zoomed in on the Peace Corps poster. And I thought, that's it. I just knew, like, that's it. I'm going to go do the Peace Corps thing. And I thought, well, that's the international part. It might not be the business part. But what I realized after the fact, it was a fabulous experience, just amazing.
Adrienne (05:40.848)
Hmm.
Adrienne (05:54.871)
Right?
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (06:01.462)
I ended up getting married when I was there. My kids are a result of the marriage of the man that I met in Mali. I was in Mali, West Africa. But it turned me, it fed that part of my soul that was all about service and helping people, helping other people, not about the money because it was poor, no money at all. And so that kind of started the process for me, right?
Adrienne (06:16.136)
Mm.
Adrienne (06:22.155)
Yeah.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (06:29.67)
opening my eyes to maybe what was inside of me in a different way than I had ever really anticipated or even thought of, had been encouraged to think of. Came back from Peace Corps and had a baby and was like, okay, life's getting real. I need to get a job and make some money. Make some money. The restaurant jobs aren't making it anymore, you know, that type of thing. And I was fortunate enough to be brought on.
Adrienne (06:47.112)
Yeah.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (06:55.758)
at Nationwide Insurance as in the corporate function doing organizational development. So I was consulting with leaders and intact workgroups on being efficient. And it was a nice flow from the work that I had been doing in Peace Corps because it was about development. It was just development in the business world, right? Not on the ground development. I was there for a couple of years and then finally I said, you know, if...
Adrienne (07:11.881)
Mm-hmm.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (07:24.49)
I'm going to be really credible as a consultant to anybody, as a young, you know, 20-something girl standing up in front of, frankly, older white men in the insurance industry, insurance and financial services industry. I need to get some business background of my own. So I went into operations leadership, started in the supervisory role, and I ended up staying there for over 20 years.
Adrienne (07:37.091)
Yeah.
Adrienne (07:52.431)
Mmm.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (07:52.478)
I loved it. I loved working with the people and I was able to bring kind of some of that service mentality, kind of that servant leadership piece to the role. So I went from, you know, over my years, I went from being a supervisor as my first role to VP of operations, working for companies that supported the federal government in health and human services types of projects. So think Medicare.
Adrienne (08:01.45)
Mm-hmm.
Adrienne (08:18.452)
Hmm
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (08:21.118)
Medicare appeals, high volume, tightly regulated, you know, those types of things. So for about 10 years, I had a team of 120 folks that reported up through to me with doctors, nurses, regulatory experts, mailroom folks, the whole across the whole gamut. And they were fabulous. It was a fabulous team. We worked well together and we...
Adrienne (08:25.656)
Hmm
Adrienne (08:41.242)
Wow.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (08:48.31)
We were doing some good things, obviously, because the government kept us there for 10 years. So after that, I got to the point where I was like, you know what, I'm ready to be back more into some consulting and in that individual contributor role. And so that's when I went, had the opportunity to go into work for a small boutique consulting firm and doing leader development. Things were flowing along just fine with that until my youngest son,
Adrienne (08:51.836)
Yeah.
Adrienne (09:11.755)
Okay.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (09:17.578)
was ready to leave for college. And right, you know what's coming, don't you? So the whole empty nester thing kicked in for me. And I didn't know it was a thing. I didn't know anything about it because I obviously hadn't gone through it before. But I started feeling some kind of way and I couldn't figure out how to get myself out of it for a while.
Adrienne (09:19.552)
Hmm...
Adrienne (09:24.231)
Hahaha
Adrienne (09:28.14)
Yeah.
Adrienne (09:40.676)
Mm.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (09:44.994)
felt like I was lost. I felt like I was being put out to pasture. That part of me as a mom that had spent so many years with all of my children, doing for them and with them and everything being about them, that was just going away almost overnight. I needed some help. I started working with a coach actually who really opened my eyes to things. The other piece of it was I was kind of afraid for my marriage because...
Adrienne (09:58.558)
Hmm.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (10:13.078)
My husband and I had spent, and I'll put an edit here, my second husband, so this is second husband, but we had spent a lot of our time, most of our time on the kids, right? Everything for the kids and very little on our relationship. And so, you know, we had some things we needed to work on, but we'd never really taken the time to do that. So I was afraid that without the kids there as the buffer, that I'd end up not being married to the man I do love.
Adrienne (10:19.771)
Hahaha
Adrienne (10:25.737)
Yeah.
Adrienne (10:37.316)
Yeah.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (10:42.454)
We're still married by the way, so it worked out just fine. But when I started working with the coach, she was about, I approached it from the perspective of my marriage because I figured that's the one thing that I could really work on and fix first. I'd have to deal with all the other feelings about being an empty nester. So what I learned from her very quickly was
Adrienne (10:44.968)
Hahaha
Adrienne (10:59.096)
Yeah.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (11:06.762)
working on my marriage was not about pointing the finger at him, telling him I needed certain things. It wasn't about asking him to do things for me. It was about me looking inward to me, to myself, to figure out who I am outside of all of the different roles that I had been playing for everyone else.
Adrienne (11:19.103)
Yeah. Oh.
Adrienne (11:29.42)
Mm.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (11:31.018)
including my husband and my kids and my parents and people at work and everything. And I had never taken the time to do that because as women, we don't, we're not trained. We don't do that. Yeah, we just don't do that. We don't build the same type of relationships with ourselves that we focus on building with other people. And that's why I was in the spot I was in as an empty nester because I felt like a part of me was dying and I couldn't reconcile that in my brain. So.
Adrienne (11:40.411)
We just don't. Yeah.
Adrienne (11:49.391)
Hmm.
Adrienne (11:57.195)
Mm.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (11:59.514)
As I dug in, and I'm getting to the point here, I promise. As I dug in, I really started to understand who I was. And I got into a class, and then we'll make this another podcast because it's a whole different story about how I got into it. Yeah, it was an intuitive kind of one of those.
Adrienne (12:20.963)
This is so interesting. Yeah.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (12:27.57)
hey, I need to, this is a class I need to go to. I don't know what this class is all about. I have no idea, but I know that when I saw the advertisement for it, the tears started rolling down my face. And so that was the universe, my intuition, whatever telling me that's it, that's it. It was my first energy healing certification course. I didn't know what energy healing was at the time, but I had that reaction to it when I saw it, when I was searching for something and...
Adrienne (12:37.196)
Mmm.
Adrienne (12:42.145)
Mm.
Adrienne (12:46.755)
Hmm. Yeah.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (12:55.178)
And I followed my intuition. And so two and a half, three years later, I was a master energy healer from not knowing what that was before. Yeah.
Adrienne (13:03.545)
Wow.
Adrienne (13:07.295)
Oh my gosh. Well, first, I just want to say thank you so much for sharing that part of your journey and for being so open about it because I don't think that we hear a lot of these stories and the feelings that are behind it, you know, why we made the moves that we did. And it's, I especially appreciate it because I think that we all have this, this
preconceived thought in our head that somebody who is highly educated, gone to Harvard, travel around the world for the Peace Corps, that they would start a billion dollar unicorn business and some high tech something or other. That is usually the PS to the story. And it really does make a difference for us as women when we have those layers of relationships and
children that we do turn so much of ourselves over to. And what that does feel like when they go out into the world and we don't want to stop them. Like we, yeah. So it's, it's this like, oh my God, this leaves such a void yet go for it. Like run, fly, be free. And it's
does give us, it is a gift, it gives us the opportunity to rediscover who we were maybe before we started thinking about how we wanted to be powerful and have these leadership jobs and running this department of 140 people. It's all so exciting. We love talking to people about our wonderful jobs and how busy we are and everything. But we all do need to take this time to...
reconnect with ourselves and I love that you have this part of you. It's your personality where it's your highly accomplished and intelligent and also like highly intuitive. It's like those two things exist on a plane that is extraordinary and I just I'm you know and you can feel it the minute that you that anybody speaks to you know you can
Adrienne (15:30.083)
feel it and everybody said so at the conference. So you certainly are on the right path. And I would also say it's definitely not over, right? It's like, this is the next step on the journey. And so I know before we started to have our conversation that you were talking a little bit about how you are also kind of maybe moving back into the world of leadership, but incorporating some of this
energy work so that you are almost bringing these two worlds together. So can you talk a little bit about that? Because there's, you know, I think that it used to be that, you know, corporate was over here and spirituality was over here and, you know, who you were as a person, you put your spirituality aside to show up at work so you could do your work. I think people are realizing that doesn't work and you need to bring your whole self.
But how do we do that in a way that satisfies both? Because corporate does need to be focused on productivity and profits and all of that kind of stuff. But it's human beings that are driving all of those things. So can you just talk a little bit about some of the work that you're doing right now?
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (16:44.494)
Mm-hmm.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (16:48.814)
Absolutely. And thanks for your kind words. I appreciate that. I loved being at the conference and meeting with everybody. The energy there was great. And I would encourage anyone who has not experienced it to please do experience it because it doesn't get any better. The support and the energy was just fabulous. So yeah, sure, sure. You're absolutely right, Adrienne. We don't
Adrienne (17:07.707)
Aw, thank you.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (17:17.406)
we don't leave ourselves at home when we go to work, right? We are whole people and the crappy day that we had or the crappy morning that we had at home comes to work with us and it impacts us. And frequently, certainly as women, we don't have time in the mornings to have the downtime sometimes that we need to be able to focus on, focus on ourselves, to get ourselves centered and to be in a good head space because you're right.
It's all about results when it comes to business. So when I look back at my journey, I don't see the, oh, I wasted time on my business years. I see my business years as my training for, and the background, because I've lived it all. Over 20 plus years, you live it all from a leadership perspective. So I see that as my training and my background for how to apply the energy work that is coming from kind of deep within me now, getting back to who I am.
Adrienne (17:47.95)
Hmm.
Adrienne (17:57.26)
Yeah.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (18:15.274)
So I am working with leaders in the business world right now to do just that, to kind of bridge that gap. So very practically speaking, I go into their spaces, I go into their offices, and in some instances, I have my own set up space, dedicated space, in their facilities, and I go in and I work with their leaders.
It's all voluntary. Nobody's forced to do it, but it's all voluntary. And they come for what could be an intuitive coaching session. They come for what can be some deep energy work. And that can take different forms. It can be guided meditation. It can be a sound bath, just using those beautiful Tibetan singing bowls. 30 minutes of that for a leader in the midst of the battle is just transformational.
Adrienne (19:04.004)
Hmm.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (19:13.214)
It can be more full on, kind of hands on energy work like I've done with you before, right? But in a full deep session, these are VIP experiences and they're very customized. So it really depends on what the person is needing at the moment. So we have a talk about what they're needing, what they're looking for. And then right in the moment there, we customize what actually makes the most sense for them to do.
Adrienne (19:19.648)
Yep.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (19:40.566)
It's been fabulous. We've gotten some really, really amazing, amazing results. So when they come in, I ask them to start a little quick, a survey for me, right? So I asked them how stressful on a scale of one to five, how stressed are you? Five being extremely stressed and one being completely relaxed. And then we go play. Then we go do our work. And then at the end, I say, okay, come back now.
Adrienne (20:05.259)
Hmm
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (20:09.538)
how stressed are you on that scale of one to five? And on average, three point difference in their stress level just from an hour, an hour 15 minutes of work in that way, and in that environment. They tell me that they get so relaxed that they're able to actually focus better when they get back to work that.
Adrienne (20:17.12)
Hmm
Adrienne (20:35.865)
Hmm.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (20:37.666)
they're more confident in their decision making because of the work that we're doing, because part of the work that we're doing is actually, it's tapping into them at their core, and it builds confidence. Because when you know who you are, and you know how you walk through the world, and you know what your gifts and capabilities are, you just show it differently, which has a ripple effect in the business world, with your teams or with your peers, and on results as well.
Adrienne (20:58.727)
Mm.
Adrienne (21:03.275)
Mm.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (21:06.338)
They tell me that they're able to handle intense, like high pressure situations or personnel situations, that type of thing. They're able to handle those much more efficiently because they're more centered, they're more grounded. They learn and we talk a lot about responding to situations instead of reacting to situations. Right? So.
Adrienne (21:26.724)
Mm-hmm. That's a good one.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (21:31.794)
And when again, when you're kind of in that centered space and you know who you are and you kind of walk in that confidence, then you handle adverse situations a whole lot better. And then just in general, they're just less stressed, less stressed in general, whether it's life or whatever. I don't put boundaries in terms of what we can talk about. So I have some people come in and all they wanna talk about is the relationship with their husband or their wife in that moment.
Adrienne (21:43.514)
Mm.
Adrienne (21:59.192)
Yeah.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (22:00.61)
Um, and we can do that and we can do energy work around that, but that gets back to the, you don't leave your home life at home, but let's, let's see how we can deal with that. Um, and, uh, so that it's not impacting you in your business, in your business world.
Adrienne (22:04.264)
Hmm.
Adrienne (22:07.895)
Yeah.
Adrienne (22:12.675)
Oh my gosh, this is so interesting. And I just want to, it's funny, I want to make an observation and then I want to ask a question. So the observation that I have, and you probably see it and people won't see it because this is an audio podcast and not a video podcast yet, but I think we are going to be turning it into a video podcast. But Alicia has these.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (22:22.45)
Uh huh. Okay.
Adrienne (22:39.747)
balls of light that are bouncing on her face. It's probably a reflection from a window that she's sitting near, but it's so interesting the way that the light is just over her head and down her face and on her cheeks. And it's reminiscent of like a Native American energy that I'm like picking up on, which is like,
It feels so, so powerful. And I don't know what that's all about, but I am loving it. And I'm just like, enraptured, like watching you and listening to you.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (23:24.977)
Oh, wow.
Adrienne (23:25.407)
Oh my gosh, very, very cool. And it's also funny because, you know, when we saw each other a couple of times, I think you had your hair down and today you have your hair up and you do have a different, I feel like you look like Native American, which is really, really interesting to me. I don't know if that's in your background at all, but if that is like coming through really hard.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (23:45.607)
Mmm.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (23:54.142)
That's very interesting that you pick up on that. So a couple of things. Yes, I do have some Native American ancestry, African American, Native American. Can I tell you a story about a healing that I was doing? That will, it'll kind of make you go, ooh, okay. Because it'll show how intuitive you are, right? I was doing a sound healing for a
Adrienne (24:06.832)
Yes.
Okay, please.
Adrienne (24:13.485)
Okay.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (24:20.97)
woman who is an experiential medium. And so experiential mediums are the folks that work with law enforcement and help them to solve cold cases and things like that. Well, you can imagine the energy surrounding those types of things, right? Those types of cases, just the heavy, dense energy. I literally had her laid out on my table and I had a bowl on top of her and I was playing the bowl on her to get some energy to like move and release.
Adrienne (24:28.992)
Ah, cool.
Adrienne (24:49.86)
Hmm.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (24:50.47)
from her heart because it had just lodged itself there. She's laying there quietly and then all of a sudden her eyes just fly open. Remember, she's a medium. Her eyes fly open and she gets this big smile on her face. And I'm looking at her like, what's going on? And she says, there is a native woman standing on the other side of.
Adrienne (25:08.915)
Yeah.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (25:15.698)
on the other side of the table from you. And she has her hands over top of yours and she's guiding your hands. And she's looking down at me with this big smile on her face and she's nodding as if to say, she's got this, she's doing well. She's your teacher and she's guiding you.
And so in that moment, the tears started flowing down my face. I, right, right. But that's how intuitive Adrienne you are as well, right? To pick up on that, right? So good for you.
Adrienne (25:39.388)
Yeah.
Adrienne (25:47.195)
Gosh. Yeah. Oh my God. That's wild. It's so wild. Oh my God. I did not expect to be going there with this conversation at all.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (26:01.006)
That's the beauty of energy, you never know where it'll take you, right?
Adrienne (26:04.035)
Oh my gosh, this is good stuff. Oh, thank you so much for sharing that story. It's wild and wonderful. Oh my gosh. I wanted to also ask without, you know, obviously revealing the companies that you're working for, but it's like, it makes me happy to know that there are larger companies out there that are asking for this type of, you know, wellness, if you will.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (26:07.086)
Hahaha
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (26:10.894)
See you soon.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (26:14.798)
Mm-hmm.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (26:33.104)
Mm-hmm.
Adrienne (26:34.215)
Are these companies that you're working for, like really progressive companies that are new and upcoming, or are they maybe some of the older companies that you wouldn't expect would invite somebody like you doing this type of work? Because conservative companies could see this as fringy, right?
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (26:54.67)
Mm-hmm, right, absolutely. I would say that they are established. However, the leadership that has invited me in is very progressive, right? So in niches and parts of the organ, in some cases, parts of the organization are really open to it, maybe not the entire organization, but in other cases.
Adrienne (27:08.15)
Ah, okay. Yeah.
Adrienne (27:16.817)
Mm-hmm.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (27:23.198)
It's the entire organization because it comes straight from the top. Some younger leaders, younger relatively speaking, so not the 60, 70 age leadership, but kind of younger than that. Look at maybe 40s, mid 40s. Yeah.
Adrienne (27:26.255)
Wow. Mm.
Adrienne (27:42.411)
Oh, this is good. This makes me happy because I think that the companies that are going to be the companies that will be around for the long term are the ones that are going to recognize that human beings work for them and you need to take care of those human beings if you want something in exchange because otherwise people will leave and find they'll either start their own companies or they'll find something.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (27:57.762)
Yep. Mm-hmm.
Adrienne (28:12.035)
that is satisfying to their soul. Because there's only so long that we can do this type of work that we're all expected to do, which it's almost like no matter what your job is, it becomes a 24-7 proposition without us giving that permission. And I think in the past, maybe we didn't.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (28:27.554)
Right, right.
Adrienne (28:36.959)
I don't know that we didn't need it. We probably always did. But maybe we didn't need it as much because there was much more separation between work and home. But now no matter what, it's like, it's integrated without our permission.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (28:50.506)
Yeah, no, you're, yes, no, you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. You know, I think one of the things that makes...
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (29:01.822)
I know one of the things that I think makes the leaders that I've been working with kind of.
open to this. That's the best way to put it. Open to it, aside from them understanding that there is, even though it might be a little bit nebulous and fuzzy to quantify the results on the business, they really are looking at it. It starts from a personal perspective for them. In most cases, they know that as leaders, for them to grow, the first step for them is self-awareness. They need to know themselves.
Adrienne (29:27.06)
Mmm.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (29:39.498)
know, grow, show to flow, right? They need to know themselves at a deep level so they know what they're working with, right? They need to grow, whether it's from a leadership perspective, whether it's from a human perspective, whether it's from a relationship, whatever perspective it is, they need to be actively looking at their own growth. They need to show other people how to do the same.
Adrienne (29:41.574)
Mm. Hmm. Mm. Oh, that's great. Hahaha.
Adrienne (29:52.355)
Yep.
Adrienne (30:09.138)
Hmm.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (30:09.15)
And that's the pulling people up, that's the paying it forward, mentoring, all of those types of things. And so some of the most progressive leaders that I work with and that are most open to this type of work for their own staff started with them. And they saw the benefits so quickly that they're like, yeah, my staff needs to have access to this.
Adrienne (30:13.851)
Hmm.
Adrienne (30:37.445)
Yeah.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (30:38.502)
needs to be provided, you know, this type of thing. So we work with them on that no-grow show. I work with them, yeah, on the no-grow show. Because when you pull all of those pieces together, that's when the flow comes. That's when flow kicks in. Because you're signaling to, yeah, you're signaling to the universe, knowing and growing for yourself. That's showing yourself self-love, right? You're learning yourself, you're loving yourself, you're investing in yourself.
Adrienne (30:51.481)
Mm.
This is so good.
Adrienne (31:01.687)
Mm.
Adrienne (31:06.467)
Hmm.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (31:06.57)
When you're showing others, you're investing in others, so you're showing love to others. So it's love all the way around. And when you show the universe that you are love, the universe gives you that love back, right?
Adrienne (31:11.09)
Mm.
Adrienne (31:18.755)
So the thing is, the thing I love is the way she does it. Well, I love that so much. It's so funny, there's a line, the artist Pink, like I just love her so much. And she says something before a song starts and she says, I love love. And I'm always quoting that because I just feel like it encapsulates it. Like I love love. And I love that the work
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (31:20.374)
Ha ha ha!
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (31:39.8)
Mm-hmm.
Adrienne (31:43.075)
that you're doing is all about self-love and outward love, whether it's in a personal or a business situation. It's so incredible. And I think that there is probably so much more that we can talk about, but I think ending on love is exactly where we should wrap it. And I would love for you
to let people know because I know you don't just work with big organizations, you also work with people one-on-one with women entrepreneurs. So how can people contact you, get in touch with you, hire you to help them?
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (32:26.478)
Absolutely. So my website is blue You can reach me via email as well at blue I answer all my emails personally. And I'm on LinkedIn as well. You might not see a whole lot of Blue Violet on LinkedIn. It's more my corporate stuff out there, but on LinkedIn as Alicia Diggs Chavis. So those are probably the best ways. Yeah.
Adrienne (32:45.873)
Yeah.
Adrienne (32:52.696)
Amazing. Well, thank you so much for spending your time with me here today and sharing all of this incredible, your incredible journey, everything that you do, the results that you get, and just your light with the She Leads podcast audience. Thank you so much.
Alycia Diggs-Chavis (33:09.294)
Thank you, Adrienne, for having me and, you know, for all the good work that you do as well. People like me wouldn't be in the positions that we are to talk with people like you if you hadn't stepped out there to help other women and show other women the way. So really appreciate that. Yeah.
Adrienne (33:24.511)
Amazing. Thank you.
