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42 - Fuck Fear
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riverside_christine_raw-synced-video-cfr_fuck_fear_0060: Hello ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Fuck Fear with Christine Spratley, living like a head bitch in charge. And, um, today we're actually taping at in the afternoon, which is not our usual thing. And so I'm a little bit off. I'm gonna blame it on that. How's that sound?
Sure. Does that sound okay, Joe? Yes. [00:01:00] Today I am kind of like Francis. Do you remember, um. Have any of you ever watched Stripes? I don't remember. Stripes. Oh my gosh. What is wrong with you? You're fired. Okay. Stripes is a Bill. Murray, you're off camera. Go go. But Stripes is a Bill Murray, he loses his girlfriend, his buddies mess, you know, having a bad day. So they go join the army. Right. And it's just about the, the, the kind of shenanigans that they make it through, basic training and all this, but it's hilarious.
Harold Ramis is in it and he's, he's costars with him. It's funny as hell. And so, but in that movie, there's, there's Francis and, um, I hope my listeners get this.
You have to be of a certain age to get this, but Francis in this movie is, um. He, he basically says people, you know, they, they're going around the room inter kind of introducing themselves and, and you know, [00:02:00] and the group, the basic training. And if you can pull up the clip, that's great. If not, I don't know if we're allowed to do it or not.
But, and he, and he goes, Francis gets called on and Francis goes among other things, he says, my name is Francis and I have Cicero or something like that. And he goes, people call me Psycho. And he says, if you call me Francis, I'm gonna kill you. So I don't like people touching my stuff. If you touch my stuff, I'm gonna kill you.
I mean, it just kind of goes on and, you know, just, and at the end of it, the, the drill sergeant goes, relax there, Francis. And it's kind of like a Francis day. It's been like that for a couple days right now for me. And so it's kind of, for me, one of those things that. I really want credit for the things that I don't say on those days or the things that I don't do on those days.
I mean, I've got all the tools, like we've all got all the tools, we've been through therapy, we, you know, we can meditate, but there's just something [00:03:00] about wanting to throat punch people. You know, and, and I say throat punch because a, a friend of mine actually, um, Stephanie, who is my speech coach, we were talking about it, she's like, it's kinda a throat, throat punch kind of day.
And I was like, yeah, it's a throat punch kind of day. And what I'm, I spent the weekend, um, helping a friend do some stuff and she's gone through a really hard time and made me feel extremely grateful, but also. I was, I was in a weird head space myself. And so the monologue that was going on inside my head was like, oh yeah, we're gonna, you know, the outside was, oh yeah, we're gonna wait here and we're gonna just help you.
And the inside of my head was going, you need to hurry up and you need to, you know, get your shit and you need to do, you know, but I wasn't on the outside. I was, you know, cool, calm and collected. [00:04:00] And I just kinda sat with that. 'cause it's been like that for the last couple of days where it's just been this, I haven't been reactionary because I've been kind of watching myself, but I've almost been comically laughing.
And I don't know if my, anybody in my that's listening to this has ever done that where you've just kind of ran the tape in your head. Of the verbal Rolodex. And for those of you that, dunno what a Rolodex is, it used to be these big, huge wheels with names and addresses. And I call 'em the verbal Rolodex where I can, Ooh, I'd like to say that.
Ooh, I can't say that. Ooh, that'll get me fired. Ooh, that'll, you know, that'll get me slapped. Ooh, no. Um. And then you finally find one that's, you know, acceptable and, and all those things. And, um, but yeah, it's been one of those things days, these last couple days, and it hasn't been a bad day or anything, and it hasn't been, I'm not going through something.
It's just kind of the moments where [00:05:00] I need to just be in the raw of me and literally, you know. If I feel like telling you off, you may get grace or you may get, you know, a Francis moment and it's just one of those tossups and typically I, I'm glad that I, I'm glad that I have the program and when I say the program, I'm talking about recovery in AA because.
They, part of my recovery is, is when you do the damage to someone or you go out and you verbally assassinate, which I like to do sometimes when I'm in my Francis mode, is. I have to go back and apologize and make amends and kind of like clean up my side of the street. Um, and typically I don't like doing that.
I mean, if there's anything more than I hate than being wrong is having to admit that I'm being wrong and that I've gone back and I've hurt [00:06:00] somebody. And then so like on top of the, I'm wrong, I have to apologize. To someone I don't like, who I didn't wanna be wrong with in the first place. And so that keeps my mouth shut a lot of the times that I'm in these Francis modes.
Um, but more than anything, I, I just, today I just had to giggle about some of the stuff and I literally, I was writing down just some of the commentary. And Joe, I don't know if you ever have play by play in your head that. Is, um, not necessarily pg and not necessarily appropriate or, um, going to further the dialogue.
And this comes off, off the heels of my love LUVE segment. Maybe there was too much of that stuff in there. I don't know, I don't know if this is balancing it out, but I just kinda wanted to go fuck off, you know, just get. You know, everybody fuck [00:07:00] off. And, um, and not in a, in a mean way or anything, it's just even my, my physio yesterday or my pt, I had physio today and my PT lady yesterday, she was so sweet.
Emily is just great. And she, she's trying to tell me, that I can't do certain things like, like, you know, but in a very genteel way. She's just got that about her. She's not one of those err, she's more of a, like an angelic, you know, gonna push ya, but she's gonna push ya. And I'm kinda like, it's gonna hurt.
And then ow. And, um, so she's telling me, this is how you need to do this and dah, dah, dah, dah, and you really can't, you know, you're really not doing it right. And I looked at her and I go, why don't you just tell me to knock that shit off? You know, it's kind of like one of those days where I just, I want to be spoken to in a very plain and direct manner, and I would like to speak to you in a plain and direct manner, [00:08:00] unfiltered.
And so, I don't know, it's just. This whole time I've been thinking about this because does that mean am I, you know, I can sit here and I can think about it and I can get into this head space when I'm in these modes of, oh, I must be going through something, or I must be, um, you know, I need to, you know, breathe more or whatever.
And what I'm kind to do, and I'm not saying this is the right thing to do, do not, do not like, listen to the people that, that, that probably give you better insight onto why you can levitate and all of those things and reach that spiritual alignment. Today was not one of those days. I'm spiritual aligned, telling you to fuck off right now and my whole thing is.
Don't do any damage that, that you can't repair. And then my other caveat is, Christine, you don't know exactly how much damage you can actually repair. So those keep the reins on it. [00:09:00] But so, so what I, I've done is I've gone back and I've watched the movie Stripes. Or I watch movies that make me crack up and I, um, or I listen to podcast or audios that just are very irreverent and really hilarious.
And for me anyway, I find 'em. So if you're going through this, maybe find something that makes you just. It, it allows me to kinda get this out and so when I was watching Francis, when I was watching Stripes and he's in there talking about him, you know it his name, and that's kind of how it's like, yeah, back off.
But then there's another section in that movie and another Francis moment, and it's kind of. It's of, he's not the direct highlight of that moment. But in the background, if you, if, if you're in a Francis mood, let's just say that If you're having a Francis moment yourself [00:10:00] and you watch the movie, you're gonna, you're gonna call him out.
So what happens is that there, there, um. Training for, they've got the, the, the parade of the, of the group, of the, of the platoon before the brass and their drill sergeant got blown up. Um, so he's been out and so they've have to practice themselves and they've got, and, and Harold Ramis is trying to lead the group and do that.
And they're just, it's, they're fit to be tied. And that is such a grandmother saying fit to be tied. Anyway, they are fit to be tied and they've been working all night in, in the barracks and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And so, and again, just to kind of show you how the Reverend so Harold Ram says, okay, the black guys helped the white or the white guys help the black guys.
And John Candy, one of the other characters who black goes, what he just say. And John Candy [00:11:00] throws his guy, throws his, you know, rifled out. He is, like, he said, the white guys helped the black guys. And immediately they, they, the, the melee starts, I mean, everybody's had it up to here. They're having this melee and in the middle of the melee, everybody is tossing each other and, you know.
Kind of rustling up, grabbing each other's, you know, call, you know this, that and the other. And then there's Francis over there, and he's got his gun out, and he's literally going from one side to the other, just like, like, just like, just stay the fuck away from me. I mean, he is not saying anything, but the look on his face is hilarious.
It's absolutely hilarious. And it's just kind of like that, just stay away from me. And, you know, you're overreacting, you know that, that the situation does not call for napalm. Like it's just, you know, they just didn't go, they just didn't get off the red light soon enough. You know, like they [00:12:00] example driving here and you know me in my driving.
Um, I live in Cary now. Um, people drive very slow here.
In regard relative to how I like to drive. And, um, and I don't quite understand that yet, and I don't have the traffic pattern. So what I've, what I've come to realize is I have to find the pattern when there's nobody on the road. So I can drive fast because they like to drive slow right beside each other and then I can't pass 'em.
So I was driving here and I was like, and this, this is. Rolling up to this light and I'm not on the line. I'm behind a car and I'm in care. Right? Like, I know they're not gonna come off the light. I've been here a month. I know that. And, um, but they've got a, a car that's fast, right? It's not a minivan, it's not a Subaru, it's a car that could actually get off the line.
So there's a little bit of hope in me and a whole lot of, [00:13:00] I wanna get there in me. And then there's Francis in me as well. So I'm like
he, he just didn't get off the line. He didn't get off the line at all. And he got beat by a minivan on the right. And I was like, and I, and I just started, and it wasn't even, I wasn't yelling, which is different 'cause you know, like, like there's moments where you're angry and you yell, but it was almost, I, I got into this real sarcastic mode of, and I came up with some real doozies, some real funny in my head.
Anyway, they're not for public announcement, but they were real funny And um, and yeah. What I've realized about that though is it's a release. It's a release, and it's okay. I don't, and I'm never going to be, one thing all the time. I'm never going to [00:14:00] practice all my, all my spirituality at once. I'm never gonna have all of my alignment of therapy all the time where I hit it and it just goes, and it doesn't even mean that I'm off.
It just means I'm in an army mode. That's the one thing about me that I've also realized, and I I, I know this may come as some of it, a shock to some people. Um, especially people that I used to work with 'cause they knew I was a little bit ornery, but I'm quite sideways sometimes and I quite enjoy that.
Um, my, my center is, it, my humor is not on center and it is, um, it is, you know, sometimes like today I got up again 'cause I know I'm kind of in this mode. I started listening to. And there's a documentary on Netflix, and I'm actually gonna have an episode on this, but I just haven't finished watching the documentary series, or it's not as documentary.
It's a series, I don't know what it's called, but Nicholas Cage does it and it's on Cussing the history and kind of [00:15:00] the, the I've seen that. Yeah. I enjoyed it. Yeah. It's good, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. You're talking about what you're talking about. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And, and, um. The amount, the amount of time that he, he does shit is like, unbelievable.
Um, but I'm right there with him and it's, and, and so what I've learned about me is, I mean, I got up and I literally, I, I started listening to that and watching it this morning, um, as I took the dogs out and I was cracking up. But again, I enjoy. Um, I, and I always have, I, I've always enjoyed the slaps to humor, the, the, you know, tad bit off center.
And so when I'm in that, you're gonna get it today mode don't, don't mess me, mess with me. And I know I didn't grow up with a mom like that, but I know I have friends that have, where they've said, yeah, mom's in her mode. Like, like back off. She's not [00:16:00] in a mean mode. She's in a don't fuck with me mode, and she's not in a, don't fuck with me, we're gonna smack you down.
She's in a no, we're gonna lay you out. It's a throat punch kind of day where you're like, like, I don't have time to mess. And um, and it's just funny because I, I was having this kind of day, and yet within this day I've had some really. Um, great moments with some people. And then I've had some other moments where I've literally been like, I do not have time for your bullshit.
And I literally said this to someone today. I said, today is not the day that you want my undivided attention. Just not like you don't want it. And they were like, okay. And I was like, yeah. You don't need it today. It's, it's just 'cause I don't, I don't have the energy to be nice and to be polite and to do that.
Um, or you don't rank high enough to where I wanna go, scrub up the energy [00:17:00] to do it. And so I just, I want to, to come to you today and put that out there because I know I'm not the only one. Because I've told this to my friends and they're like, yeah, we have that. And I'm like, and what's funny is. I am like, you have that.
So like there are days you wanna throw a punch of me and they're like, oh yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. Like the other day when you were saying it, I was like, oh really? And they're like, yeah, we just didn't, I was like, and then what's really funny is when you know you have good friends is when you can go, so what was going on in your head?
What didn't you say to me that you wanted to say? And that's what's really funny. I've got, you've heard me talk about my friend Inya and we say some, we say some stuff to each other. And, um,
I'm laughing because she just, it just, it just, you know, it just doesn't hit, it doesn't hurt, it doesn't, you know, 'cause I, because it's just, and some days we'll warn each [00:18:00] other and some days we won't. Um, but. We say some pretty hilariously mean things if you were just listening to just anybody out there was listening to us.
Um, and probably inappropriate things as well if you wanna put inappropriate in there. So I find it almost a release, and I also find it that another part of me is if I'm the good girl too long, I wanna be bad. Like it's just in me. Um, I've never, I don't know what that is. I don't know that everybody has that.
I don't, I don't care. I know that for me, I do and I kind of like it. Um, 'cause it keeps me on my toes. It keeps sometimes other people on their toes. I know it helped me in business. Because every, every once in a while I'd come in and I'd just be a little bit off and not in a mean way. 'cause there's those people, [00:19:00] those are the, the, the, the ones that Yeah, they're, they're not like, they're just napalm and everything left and right.
And I tried really hard not to do that. But there were days when I'd come in, I'd have that little extra zinger, you know, that little extra wit about me sharpness, about me tongue, about me. And, um. Or I was up for it, you know, I was up for some trouble. And and I'm kind of getting, I, I'm kind of up for some trouble right now and, um, thank God I don't get into the trouble that I used to get into.
Um, [00:20:00] so what are some of your tips for controlled catharsis? Controlled catharsis. Yeah. I mean, like you're talking about it, it feels like a release sometimes if you, if you don't let it go, it just, you just get all pent up and repressed and well most feel, I mean, that was kind of the premise of that documentary, right?
Yeah. Well, yeah, and it's actually a really good documentary, but I would say my tip is I, I literally have comedy and my comedy includes. A, a variety of, um, language. I'm trying to be controlled right now. Um, I mean, it's got every cuss word in there. It's got some raunchy stuff. It's got some funny stuff, and then it's got some just plain, pure, funny slap stick humor.
So I, I've, I, I, I literally stalk. Stuff when I'm like this. I think that's part of it, is going, okay, I'm gonna be a little bit armory [00:21:00] today. But two is don't do any damage, you know? And don't do any damage that you can't repair. And remember, you don't always get to say what you can repair and we can't because people can take their toys and go home and I can sit here and say, oh, I didn't mean that.
And they can go, I'm sorry, you get one shot and you blew that shot and whatever. So I tend to. Have a have a group of people that I tell it to. I tend to have, you've seen my mugshot crew. You, you can probably tell when I've had some friends this mornings. Yeah. Get yourself a, a safe space, a safe friendship.
Somebody that gets it. Okay. I'm gonna define safe because that word just doesn't ride with me today. Safe as in. Somebody you can cuss with and they're not gonna pray over your ass. Like somebody that's gonna go, yeah, yeah, yeah. A swear safe zone, a swearing room. Get yourself a swearing room. Have you seen those?
No. Okay. I thought, I thought this is what I call my car sometimes. Yes. Oh, very much [00:22:00] so. They in, in, in TikTok or whatever the hell it's called, Instagram, they, they let the kids go in the bathroom and say whatever cuss words they want to, oh. 'cause it's dirty talk. And they're not in trouble in the bathroom.
Bathroom, but there's this one and she's not in the bathroom and, and, and it's on there and she goes. Oh, I'm gonna get so in trouble for saying this, but she comes up and her mom's on the phone, and this is every mother. This is every mother that's ever lived. I don't care if you're stepmom. I don't care if you're just borrowing the kids, whatever.
She's on the phone, she's dealing with something, and her and her girl comes in the room. She's like, mom, can I say a bad word? You know, mom, can I say a bad word? And the mom's like, what? And she's like, yeah. And the girl turns around and goes, mother fucking bitch. And, and, and so like, I have those stockpiled, those are my bookmarks.
Um, and, and I'm like, yeah, you go girl. And sometimes I am saying motherfucking bitch. Okay. Sometimes I am driving, going, saying that sometimes I am getting [00:23:00] off the phone talking to certain people and going, yeah. And then sometimes I'm just out there being lippy. You know, like the guy I told today, you do not want my undivided detention today.
That's just not, we're not gonna have this conversation. I do not wanna have this conversation and I don't think you do either. And that was the warning of, yeah, next one it's throw punch and, and yeah, I'm, I'm gonna just, you know, so for me it is finding the, the people around me that get me. I don't know that it's so much safe as it's putting people around you, you know, that understand who you truly are, and that understand that having a Francis day does not mean I'm going through something.
It just means I'm living. And today I am a little bit lippy and y'all can fucking deal with it. And I mean. What's really funny is there's [00:24:00] one woman on my mugshot crew that I know, and she's ex, she's very religious in the sense of doesn't cuss does it? And you've, you've seen my mugshots. So you know, some of them are.
Some of them have words that I don't, well I know because she doesn't send me anything back like, I'm praying for you or anything like that. She just, she'll send me like, ah, you know, stuff like that. And and, and I sent one and I was like, yeah, I know my mouth. And she just sent me back a smiley face after that.
But again, they, they get it. And I think that part of twofold, when I do that, when I put people around me. Um, then I'm allow, then I'm allowing myself to recognize myself and then also have people around me that know my worth is not attached to always the language that I use or my mood at that day, or, you know, um, they just, they [00:25:00] understand my worth and I understand my worth because I've chosen to put people around me that don't judge me like that.
The other thing that I do, as I said, I put comedy, but I also put a lot of music, um, in my life. And music. You know, some days it's Metallica and Isaac Osborne and, um, you know, I mean, it's, it's. Bad things by Wednesday, the, you know, and I mean, it's just a list of stuff. And then other days it's George Strait and Peaceful and, you know, something like that.
But some days I, I want that, that's what I crave. You know, gimme food, gimme f gimme, that's what Chad desire, you know, you can just hear that. And it's like, yeah. And I will, you know, be behind the Subaru going, gimme four. You know? And, and that's a safe space if we wanna use the word safe. Um, but whatever it is.
My biggest thing is just recognize [00:26:00] that that's just where you're today. That's where you are for that moment. And again, like today, I've, I've, I've kind of consistently had this all day long, but through, but there was an hour and a half today where I was in a, um, in a group of women. I had my women's group today where we were talking about some really serious, in-depth emotional stuff.
And that didn't mean that I wasn't able to show up there. I think that is the biggest thing. I don't, you know, you're gonna find your pantry items, you're gonna find your pantry items. Go talk to your girlfriends, go talk to your, go talk to your husband. Try some of his shit. You know, try it out. Figure out what, what gets you, what gets you to laugh at yourself from the crazy stuff that you're saying, either out loud or in your head.
You know, I would say that. But also know that it's just at that moment and that's, you've heard me talk about riding the wave of, [00:27:00] you know, the emotions are just kind of the waves that you ride and you ride 'em out, then you paddle back in, then you get a different wave and it's like when that goes through, you get it to where it goes through you.
But again, it's not catharsism, it goes all the way out because it's still part of me, it's part of my humor, it's part of my artiness. And. I like that I get into a little bit of trouble. You know, I think when you're talking about pantry items, I mean, I remember when some of my family was going through some like food therapy kind of stuff there I learned, you know, you're supposed to just pay attention to your body and listen to your body.
If you're craving something, your body probably needs something. Mm-hmm. And I think that kinda lines up with what you're saying, like sometimes a strategic F-bomb can be more therapeutic than a thousand affirmations. Doesn't mean affirmations aren't good, doesn't mean enough. Time is always the answer, but sometimes it is.
And, and I think you need to have them all in there. You're all in your [00:28:00] pantry and you know, it's like that day I, I told you about walking out that morning and, and, and saying to my, to my husband at the time, I got your grace right here. I knew I had, I was gonna give him grace, but I was gonna give, serve it to him with a little bit of an attitude.
And that's just what I needed. And part of that allowed me to harness how I felt. And I think that is, you know, then you just laugh at it. You just, you just laugh at it. Sometimes you laugh at other people being morons, and sometimes you're the moron. And I'm okay being the moron sometimes. Um, I just, again, I try really hard to allow myself.
The ability to show up and remind myself that I can show up any way I, I choose, and they all have consequences. And usually we talk about consequences in a [00:29:00] bad way, but sometimes the consequences are really good. And when I show up sometimes, and I have a little bit of Francis in me, there's some people out there that need to be kept away from me, you know, that don't need to be in my space and they need to stay away.
And it's good when I show up sharp. Um, so again, whether it's the affirmation, you are light, you are love, you know, what was the, what was the mugshot that I sent the other day and it was, um. It was like, I'm kind, I am this, I'm that. And then it was like, who are you kidding? You know? But it, it's like that.
It's like I am all of those things. And I think from my perspective as a woman, that is the beauty and the power of being a woman is I get to be all of it. You know? I get to be everything. In my [00:30:00] women's group today, we were talking, you've heard me say this line before. I, I am the hero. I'm meant to be the hero of my own story.
And one of the other women brought up, she said, we are also allowed to be the villain of our own story. I, and I had never heard that before, and I was like, yeah, I get to start shit too. And I don't just necessarily get to be the one who saves the day, but I get to screw with some days, you know? And some people need some screwing with, some days I need some messing with, some days somebody needs, you know, some days I need to kind of be some like gimme a little bit of a hard time, you know?
And. I just had never heard that. And the whole purpose of what we were kind of talked about as we all talked about what that meant was we get to be our story. We get to play all of the characters in our story [00:31:00] because it's ours. So I would suggest that, like you said, find what works for you, what you need, but also, you know.
Let it out in whatever feels natural, let it out. And then if there's something there to look at, look at it. But if not, like fucking move on. And you know, tomorrow will be Wednesday and I'll get up and I'll start the day again. But, and maybe it'll be a throw punch day and maybe not, I don't know. But today, in the last few days, I've been in this Francis mode and I've, I've fully embraced my Francis so again, maybe it's a perfectly timed cuss word. Maybe it's an affirmation with a smart ass remark on the end of it. Maybe it's getting on and looking at, maybe it's joining my mugshot crew and getting, you know, getting those and looking at those some days, I don't know what it is for you, [00:32:00] but own it and have it, it's part of you.
It is just a part of you, and you get to walk through it and go through it and live it. And so live out, live out loud, at least out loud in your head. But don't deny it, you know, you don't have to. Um, not when it's within you. And I've also noticed that when I do go through this and I have these moments in these days like this, if there is something underneath that's causing it, like really causing it that I haven't dealt with, that comes out, that comes out because I've taken the taboo of, oh my God, we gotta fix this away.
And I've just kinda let it set and let it settled. And you know, it's like after a kid and they'd throw their tantrum and then the next thing you know, they're in the car and they're sleeping. You know, there's this calm, it's, it's released. So I guess it is a cathartic catastrophe almost, you know? And I do do [00:33:00] cathartic cussing and we're gonna save all my cuss words for later.
Um, but I have a bunch of 'em. So if you haven't, two things. If you haven't watched the movie Stripes, watch it. Um, and two. Embrace your Francis. Have a Francis day, just e even your inner Francis. Um, and, and be a little bit ornery when you need to be or when you feel like being Ory. You, you don't have to like be the good girl.
You don't. No one. There's no such thing as the good girl. And if you're like me, if you're good for too long, you wanna go be bad. So just be bad right off the bat. So until next time, ladies and gentlemen, tubs.
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