421: 100x Your Speaking in a Day: Insights from Our Recent In-Person Workshop

Show Notes

Have you ever wondered how you can improve your speaking skills and truly connect with your audience?

I’m joined by Wendy McManus and Tara Lassiter, who recently attended our 1-day in-person speaking workshop in Orlando, Florida.

They share their stories, lessons learned, and the transformations they experienced, all within a single day.

We talk about:

• Why in-person workshops provide a unique opportunity to grow as a speaker.

• The power of immediate feedback and how it helps you identify habits you didn’t realize you had.

• How improv exercises can help you loosen up, step out of your comfort zone, and have fun while learning.

• Why storytelling is the heart of impactful presentations—and how to use “active storytelling” with your voice and body.

• The surprising stories we’re most reluctant to share—and why they often resonate the most with audiences.

• Personal anecdotes from Wendy and Tara about the challenges and breakthroughs they had during the workshop.

 

Key Takeaways:

1. Practice Makes Progress: Speaking more frequently and getting feedback in the moment accelerates your growth.

2. Own Your Story: The stories you might hesitate to share can create the deepest connections.

3. Be Intentional: From movement on stage to vocal variety, deliberate choices make your delivery more impactful.

4. Play and Learn: Don’t underestimate the value of play, from improv to dancing—because growth can be fun too!

 

About My Guests:

• Wendy McManus is a leadership coach specializing in helping newer people managers build their confidence and skills as leaders. She’s passionate about storytelling as a tool for connection and growth.

• Tara Lassiter is a brand strategist and ghostwriter with a background in on-air modeling at QVC. Her mission is to help others break through barriers and create representation in the business world.

Our next 1-day Speaking Workshop is on February 27, 2025, in Downtown Orlando, Florida! If you’re ready to accelerate your growth as a speaker, gain hands-on feedback, and have a lot of fun, this is your chance. Learn more and grab your spot at https://www.SpeakingYourBrand.com/workshop. 

 

Links:

Show notes at https://www.speakingyourbrand.com/421/ 

Video from the live show: https://youtube.com/live/HMhIr041IOg

Discover your Speaker Archetype by taking our free quiz at https://www.speakingyourbrand.com/quiz/

Attend our 1-day speaking workshop in Orlando: https://www.speakingyourbrand.com/workshop/ 

Enroll in our Thought Leader Academy: https://www.speakingyourbrand.com/academy/ 

Join us in London for our B.O.L.D. Brand Intensive Retreat in Summer 2025: https://www.speakingyourbrand.com/london/ 

 

Connect on LinkedIn:

• Carol Cox = https://www.linkedin.com/in/carolcox

• Tara Lassiter (guest) = https://www.linkedin.com/in/taralassiter/ 

• Wendy McManus (guest) = https://www.linkedin.com/in/wendy-mcmanus/ 

 

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Carol Cox:
How can you become a better speaker?

Here are top takeaways from some of the

women who attended our recent in-person

speaking workshop, on this episode of the

Speaking Your Brand podcast.

More and more women are making an impact by

starting businesses, running for office, and

speaking up for what matters.

With my background as a TV political

analyst, entrepreneur, and speaker, I

interview and coach purpose driven women to

shape their brands, grow their companies,

and become recognized as influencers in

their field. This is speaking your brand,

your place to learn how to persuasively

communicate your message to your audience.

Hi there and welcome to backstage with

Speaking Your Brand.

I'm your host, Carol Cox.

Today we are live on LinkedIn, in YouTube

with two women who recently attended our one

day speaking workshop in Orlando, Florida.

I wanted to have them on to share what they

learned, how much they progressed just from

the morning to the afternoon sessions, and

the main takeaways for being a better

speaker and storyteller on stage, so that

you too can benefit from that if you're

listening to this on the podcast.

So nice to have you.

You can watch the video as well.

The link is in the show notes, so you can

watch us on video, or you can just continue

to listen to us.

Today we have with us Wendy McManus and Tara

Lassiter. You may recognize Wendy's name.

She was also on the podcast not too long ago

for another LinkedIn live that we did when

she graduated from the Thought Leader

Academy, where she shared a ten minute

version of the signature talk that she

worked on with us.

Well, she got to take those storytelling

skills to our stage with our workshop.

Wendy. Tara, so nice to have you here.

Tara Lassiter:
So nice to be here.

Thank you.

Wendy McManus:
Thanks for having us, Carol.

Carol Cox:
Oh, you are so welcome, Wendy, thank you so

much for taking the time to be here.

I so often say that the best way to get

better at speaking is to actually put the

reps in. So the more speaking you do, the

better that you'll get if you only do

something once in a while, whether it's

speaking or going on TV or, I don't know,

riding a horse, you're not.

It's going to you're going to feel nervous

and it's not going to feel good if you only

do it once a year or so.

But if you're speaking every week or every

month, you really get into the habit because

you're putting those reps in.

But even better than just speaking is

getting coaching and feedback in the moment.

So you know what is working, what's not, and

what are things that you can tweak and

adjust to make it even better?

So that's what I want to dive in with you

today. Tara, I'll start with you first.

Tell us a little bit about what it is that

you do in your business and why you decided

to attend our workshop.

Tara Lassiter:
Okay, so my background, I'm a brand

strategist and ghostwriter story behind it.

I spent a decade on air at QVC as a model,

and throughout that experience, I was

fortunate enough to live through the time

when we went from all of the models being a

size two to having plus size models and

petite models and different ages.

And really, there was an explosion of

diversity that helped everyone see and feel

representation on screen.

Well, I want to do the same thing for the

business world. I want everyone to have

their own version of a business Barbie that

they can look up to.

That is their version of hey, I can do that.

And also that has a story that they can

really relate to so that we can break those

glass ceilings together.

Carol Cox:
And why did you decide to attend our speaking

workshop?

Tara Lassiter:
So word of mouth.

I had a previous client I was working with.

She spoke really highly of you.

I looked you up. I'm like, she's here.

And then I was fortunate enough to meet you

at a networking event that was August,

September like last month.

So you really made me feel safe.

And that's something that's like one of my

values. It's as a woman, you know, a woman

in business, we're not always safe.

We don't always feel safe.

So I knew that I could trust you when I

wanted to step back into the spotlight.

I had been writing behind the scenes.

I was very comfortable hiding, and I knew I

had to step back into my media, my host, my

acting background. I needed to, you know,

use those skills again.

And you provided a safe space for me to do

that so that I could remember.

Oh, yeah, you do this like you love this.

This is where you want to be.

But it was a safe environment.

And also, like you said, that instant

feedback because I wanted to make sure that

if there was anything that I needed to fix,

if there was something I forgot, that

someone could point it out.

Because you don't know what you don't know,

but you gave that to me.

Carol Cox:
Oh, I love hearing that.

Tara. I'm so glad you feel that.

You felt like this was a safe and supportive

environment. I can imagine it would feel a

little intimidating and vulnerable to stand

up in front of a group of women that you

don't know and in front of coaches, and have

yourself, and you know that we are so kind

with our feedback and we'll get into that.

But I'm so glad that you felt that right

from the beginning, even before you showed

up with us in person.

Wendy, tell us a little bit about what you

do with your work and why you decided to

attend our in-person workshop.

Wendy McManus:
Yeah. Thanks, Carol.

I'm Wendy McManus.

I'm a leadership coach.

I work one on one with senior leaders.

I facilitate with teams and help build

culture and communication.

But my real passion is around working with

newer people, leaders, folks that have made

that shift from individual contributors into

being people managers.

Um, and as part of that, I'm getting out and

doing more speaking.

I love speaking, I love being on stage.

And the reason that I wanted to attend the

one day workshop is because, first of all, I

participated in Thought Leader Academy,

which was an eight week journey.

That was amazing.

I've done some of your online workshops on

zoom. Everything I've done with you in Diane

has been amazing, and I've always come out

feeling like I took a big growth spurt.

So just, you know, Carol and Diane are up to

something like, yeah, let me go check it out

for sure. But this one in particular was the

opportunity to get on stage in person.

Most of my work right now is still on zoom,

and it's nice and safe and comfortable, and

I needed to get out of that safe zone and

get out there in person, in front of people

with no notes in hand, and just be in the

moment and speak.

So it was a great opportunity for that.

Carol Cox:
It is I again, I love zoom, it brings women

to us from all over the country and all over

the world, but there's really nothing like

being in person.

I really feel it feels like it accelerates

learning in a way that being on zoom can't

do that in in that same fashion, in that

same timeline.

All right, Tara, let's go back to you

thinking about back to that time that you

spent with us that day.

Was there anything in particular that

surprised you about any of the activities

that we did or your.

I'm going to call it a performance on stage.

Well, you did do a little bit of performance

and we'll come back to that in just a

moment. But anything in particular that

surprised you?

Tara Lassiter:
I was fidgety and I went from not being able

to fidget like I had to be Vanna White for a

decade. And so to notice that I was playing

with my hair and rocking back and forth, I

was like, who? Like, who are you?

Like, where did you learn these things?

So it was great that I had, like I said,

that safe environment because I had no idea

how I was going to show up on stage and on

camera again. And so it gave me the

opportunity to get back into my body and to

like, stand up a little taller and to

remember all of those skills that I hadn't

used since I've been on camera, because the

last time I was on air was 20, 20.

So four years was enough time for me to

learn some bad habits.

So I was really surprised because that was

the part I thought I would be great at.

I thought I was like, I know how to be a

mannequin. I thought it was going to be the

speaking, but the stories came out well.

It was the standing in.

It was the posture that I needed to practice

again.

Carol Cox:
And we all have things that we do that we

don't realize that we do, that are

subconscious. Some of them are verbal tics.

So words that we say, some of them are

physical tics, like playing with our hair or

rocking side to side, or the way that we

maybe hold our hands.

And the only way to discover those is to

have someone watch you who's looking for

them, or to record yourself on video and be

willing to watch it, which I know is not

always easy. Wendy, what about you?

What surprised you about the day that we

spent together?

Wendy McManus:
What was most surprising wasn't when I was on

stage. It happened when we were doing the

exercises as a group.

You all made us do improv.

Improv exercises.

So talk about getting out of my comfort

zone. That is way out of my comfort zone.

But it was fun.

And you all, you and Diane made it okay for

us to be silly and not feel like we needed

to do it the right way.

You just you made it really fun.

And I feel like that got us all loosened up.

We did some of that before anybody got up on

stage or any of the participants got up on

stage, and I felt really loose and

comfortable with the other women in the

room, in particular, having all sort of made

fools of ourselves, doing the improv

exercises, crawling around on the floor and

just being silly and goofy and, and, uh, you

know, feeling very unprofessional, like in,

in our professional clothing, but just

having fun. That was great.

Carol Cox:
I'm glad you brought that up, Wendy, because

as listeners know, Diane and I have a love

hate relationship with improv.

We love to hate it, but we also know how

incredibly helpful it has been to us.

And so we do it with you and we show you we

like we definitely don't do it perfect at

all, but we're willing just to be silly and

get down on the floor and to act things out,

because we also know that it's us opening

ourselves up to that level of vulnerability

hopefully opens up all of you, and then the

entire room and the space that we're

creating. Tara, I mentioned that a little

bit of the performance aspect you had

because you actually led us in a cheer,

because you did a cheer on stage for one

part of your story. I was like, oh, wait,

hold on a minute. We gotta all do this cheer

again to loosen ourselves up.

So what did how did you feel about some of

the improv exercises that we did?

Tara Lassiter:
So I actually love improv, not because I'm

good at it or anything, but I like that it

it doesn't allow me to be in my head that

you have to go with whatever your first

instinct is. You can't judge it.

You can't overthink it. Like, I think that's

a great exercise for everybody because we're

so like, you want to be right and you want

to be perfect and you want to look good and

you want to sound good. But the best stuff

comes from when, like the best, our best

content, our best productions are off the

cuff because we don't know what's inside of

us until we we let it free.

And sometimes we overthink the magic and it

loses that special, special touch.

So I was happy I got to do that cheer.

I should not have kicked my leg that high

because I did not stretch beforehand, so I

paid for that the next day.

It reminded me how old I am, but I was

really happy that again I got inside my

body, I had fun, I didn't care how I looked,

I didn't, I wasn't able to overthink it.

I was able to be in the moment and really

like connect with all of the other women

there. Like, I, we, we were we had a shared

experience that brought us all together.

And you were able to do that in such a like

that was within the first hour.

So I was really, really impressed with how

you were able just to transform that

environment and make it productive.

Carol Cox:
Yeah. Well, thank you all for going with it

too, and for being willing to to do all the

things that we asked you to do, whether it's

dance parties or cheers or improv exercises.

Wendy, let's talk about what I call active

storytelling in presentations, in talks, you

know that we emphasize stories because

stories are what connect us to the audience

and what they usually are going to remember.

The most of any talk is the story.

And so there's a way to tell a story where

you just kind of go through, okay, here's

what happened. But then there's active

storytelling where you actually are using

your body and you're using the stage.

So when can you tell us a little bit about

what that process was like for you and what

you learned?

Wendy McManus:
I think the biggest takeaway so so two things

are standing out for me, Carol.

One is about moving around on the stage that

the movement needs to be intentional.

It's not just movement for movement's sake,

because as we saw, you know, myself and some

other, uh, participants in the workshop, we

would be sort of nervously rocking or kind

of moving, you know, almost looking like we

were wandering around the stage.

And so that was one thing that I really took

away is that being purposeful when I think

about though, the, the, the, the embodiment

of the speaking, it's also for me about

using my voice more intentionally And one of

the the big pieces of feedback that you all

gave me after the first time that I told my

story was about like adding some variety and

and I was a little bit, but I needed to

build to more of a crescendo.

I needed to have more variety in the energy

and the volume and the pacing add more

deliberate pauses.

And what was interesting was when I started

incorporating that, then I started moving

more intentionally as well.

Like, I started moving intentionally to this

side and then pausing physically, pausing

and pausing my delivery before I started

moving again and started speaking again.

So it was interesting to see how the two

kind of wove together.

Carol Cox:
Yes, well, our minds and bodies are

connected, and so it's almost like what Tara

was saying about improv is that we like to

improv gets us to not think so much or

overthink. And I feel like as speakers,

oftentimes we want to overthink what we're

going to do, but if we sometimes just let

our bodies do what it would naturally do in

the moment when we're telling a story like

we know if we're like, it's a heavier part

of the story. If we were telling that to a

friend, we probably would take a beat, take

a breath, maybe look at the friend, check in

on them, and then continue.

But we forget when we're on stage speaking

to an audience that the same, the same

elements apply. That alignment still needs

to be there. Tara, what about you?

Tell us a little bit about your storytelling

and what you learned from from doing that

with us on the stage.

Tara Lassiter:
So I am like a lifelong storyteller.

I love writing, I love words, I love telling

stories. Um, the thing that stood out to me,

to me most about telling my story, was that

the stories that I should tell are the

stories that I'm most reluctant to tell.

And so that's why I made it a point to tell

stories. Well, the first story was one that

I wasn't necessarily proud of, but to show

that, hey, we all make mistakes and not

everybody had a perfect upbringing.

Not everyone has a perfect upbringing, uh,

background. So sometimes we do things that

we're not proud of, but how do we turn it

around? That says something about our

character, and it says something about our

potential. And I think that's something that

our audience is really wanting because

they've seen us be polished, they've seen us

be perfect. And if we can tell those hard

stories, whether they're business stories or

personal stories, but if we can share in a

way that's vulnerable but still relatable,

right? Like we're not sharing for the sake

of sharing, but we're sharing to show how

we've overcome it creates space for them to

overcome as well.

Carol Cox:
And Tara, I remember the opening of the

story, the five minute story that you were

practicing, which was can you share the

opening with us? It was really a lot of fun.

Tara Lassiter:
So in middle school, I was a cheerleader.

I think the prompt you gave us was tell us

when you used your voice as a child.

Right. That was what it was.

Carol Cox:
Well, I'm thinking of the one with the guy

with the Ferrari.

Tara Lassiter:
Oh.

That story. See, we told lots of stories that

day. Okay, so I asked, this is, you know, I

like to ask because when I think of a show

off, I think of a guy.

He's driving a Ferrari.

He, like, revs his engine.

Vroom vroom vroom. And I picture him, like,

into valet.

Right? He just cuts everybody off.

He gets out the car, he leaves the door

open. He doesn't talk to the valet.

He throws the keys at him and his shoulders

are back. And he's looking around and like

he just owns the place, right?

That's a show off. Everybody look at me.

Not giving any energy back to anyone else.

And I use that because I want to contrast

when I was called a show off and I wasn't

anything like that, but that's a like I know

a lot of people have been said, you're doing

too much. You're showing off.

You are.

You are trying to steal all of the shine in

this situation. And that's not that wasn't

my intention. And typically when that's set

to other people, that wasn't their intention

either. They just were doing great.

And instead of being commended, a lot of

times we're reprimanded.

So I knew that was like a universal

experience that a lot of us could relate to.

So I wanted to really contrast, hey, when

you're when someone tells you that you're

showing off, are you really showing off

because that's showing off or are you just

standing in your greatness?

Carol Cox:
Oh, I love that, Tara.

And for those of you who are listening to

the podcast, you should come watch the video

at this part because you'll see Tara as she

was doing the Ferrari and the guy getting

out of the car and throwing the keys.

She acts, she pantomimes that.

She acts it out in her facial expressions

and the way she moves her shoulders.

It really brings so much life to the story,

and that's what makes it memorable.

It's the combination of the words and the

delivery at the same time.

So I want to ask you now, Wendy, so of the

think about all the women who were there and

listening to their story.

So you all practice your main story one time

in the morning, got the feedback, and then

you practice it again in the afternoon.

And I bet both of you can remember every

single woman's story. At least you could

kind of summarize to yourself, okay, Sandy,

talk about this. Melanie talked about this

and go down the list.

Think about going to a conference and

thinking about all the speakers that you see

at a conference. And how much could you

remember of what they presented versus what

you heard when you hear stories?

Wendy McManus:
Yeah. And let me I wanted to throw this in.

So, you know, when we tell a story, we

usually have a particular, um, lesson or a

message that we're trying to convey through

the story. And the stories are so amazing.

They help the lesson or the lesson or the

message stick, as you were saying, Carol,

they make it so much more memorable.

I had an experience yesterday.

I was speaking with a vendor who was in the

room with us and during the workshop, and we

were talking a little bit, she was, you

know, giving me some praise.

It was lovely. Oh, I loved the way you did

this. I loved the way you did that.

And she said, and you know, when you told

that story about.

And then she talked about what message she

got, it wasn't the message I intended to

deliver. It was the message she needed to

internalize based on what was going on for

her or based on her experience.

It wasn't the wrong message.

It was still an accurate message, but it was

a different message.

And to me, it just brought home that power

of story that we create space for.

The listener almost becomes a character in

the story as they're listening.

And I just wanted to share that because it

really, in that moment, kind of expanded my

understanding of the power of story.

Carol Cox:
That's a beautiful example, Wendy, I'm so

glad you shared that, because it goes to

show that a presentation I call this the

Expert Trap, where we just give the audience

a bunch of information, a bunch of bullet

points, do these five things and you're

going to be successful.

There's no room for them in that versus the

story like you just described.

They become the main character even in your

story, even though that particular thing

didn't happen to them in the way that it

happened to you.

And then I think about reading novels, and

I've read since I was a young child, and

I'll go back and read books again that I

read before.

And I'm not the only one I know, because I

hear this from other readers, that the first

time they read it, they got a certain thing

from that novel, but then they read it again

at a different stage in their life, and they

get a totally different thing from that

novel, because that is the power of

storytelling. We get what we need in that

moment.

Wendy McManus:
Yeah, yeah.

All right.

Carol Cox:
Tara, so let's go back to you.

So thinking also to the speaking that

you're, you're set to do you're this was, I

think kind of like your your launch back

into the speaking world.

It sounds like. So what do you have on the

horizon. What are you most excited to be

doing next?

Tara Lassiter:
So I'm starting with a podcast tour, and I'm

really, really excited about who I'm in

talks with now because so podcasts to me are

like stages that are I'll use that word safe

again. They're like safe stages because it's

a it's a 2 to 1, even though we have a large

audience that can hear in that moment, it's

just you and who you're speaking with.

And that's similar to what my experience was

on QVC, because there might have been

millions of people watching, but it was just

us and the host and, you know, the

production staff. So it was it was a closed

space that made it easier for us to

experience, experiment and have fun.

So I'm starting with podcasts, and I'm just

excited to share those stories and also

reach audiences of women that I wouldn't be

able to on my own.

So because there's only 365 days in a year.

So if I try to one by one touch all of these

women, I would run out of time before my

mission was complete.

So I love the way that podcasts are able to.

It's like exponential messaging.

And it makes me think too, because like you

said, our stories like we own the stories,

but we don't own the takeaways.

So when we multiply our stories and multiply

the stages that we speak on or the podcasts

that we speak on, we're multiplying those

takeaways. So we have no idea how.

We're just affecting all these different

people. And I love when I receive messages

and they're like, I listen to you on this

podcast and this helped me with XYZ.

I'm just like, this is what I do this for

because I want that connection, but I don't

know who it will land with.

We don't know how it'll land with the

stories, mind, but the takeaway is for for

the listener. So I'm excited to receive

feedback and to tell those stories and to

spread the word.

Carol Cox:
Oh, I love that, Tara. And for those of you

listening, if you host a podcast and you

think Tara would make a fantastic guest

based on your audience and the type of

content that you typically have on your

podcast, reach out to Tara for sure.

And I'm sure that she would love that

connection. Wendy, what about you?

What is next for you? I know I planted a

seed for you on Friday about a potential

other talk that you have besides the

signature talk that you work with us on and

the Thought Leader Academy.

Wendy McManus:
You did that one still in the ground.

Um, so.

So the thought leader Academy.

I worked on a signature talk.

It's very much about the journey that newer

people, managers go through when they step

into this role, because, you know, you're

really good at the job and you get noticed

and you get that tap on the shoulder.

But too often you get into the role.

And now part of your responsibility is to be

a manager of other people, a leader of other

people. And very few companies are doing a

good job of preparing people, and it's an

entirely different skill set.

So the signature talk that I developed in

Thought Leader Academy was focused on that.

So my next work is to, you know, be looking

for opportunities to speak there.

I do have in my thriving Leader Circle

program, which is a coaching and leadership

training program for those newer people

managers. I'm starting to bring in more

storytelling in the pre-recorded modules and

in the integration sessions, the live calls

that I have starting to give myself

permission to bring in more of my stories

and recognize how powerful that is.

The seed that that Carol just referenced is

that, you know, these things that I'm

talking about are all, you know, very much

in that professional space, the business

space. We were encouraged in the workshop

last Friday to tell a personal story.

And so I stepped out of my comfort zone and

told a very personal story, and was really

surprised by how strongly people reacted to

it. Before I even came off stage the first

time, both Carol and Diane were saying,

that's a keynote.

That's the foundation for a keynote.

So I'm just I'm letting it marinate for

right now. Carol, I might be back for

another VIP day to figure out how to

structure this keynote, but I need to I need

to figure out if it's too much of a of a

distraction from the main focus of my

business, or if it's something that I'm

really feeling called to do, and it might be

something that I'm called to do, just not

right now. But it's the seed is planted and

we're going to see if it sprouts into

something that's perfect.

Carol Cox:
I love that, and that is really also the

power of literally saying things out loud to

an audience. I have had light bulb moments

in the middle of speaking to an audience

where something all of a sudden gelled for

me as the words were coming out of my mouth

that was unplanned and I had never did not

anticipate that. So it does happen and I'm

glad that it happened for you.

Wendy, make sure to connect with both Tara

and Wendy on LinkedIn.

The links to their profiles are in the show

notes, and for those of you listening and

watching, if you would like to join us, we

have our next One Day speaking workshop

happening in downtown Orlando, Florida at

the Citrus Club on February 27th, 2025

February 27th, 2025.

Coming up in just a few months, super early

bird pricing is on now for a limited time.

We would love to have you there so that you

can practice your storytelling and your

speaking and have a lot of fun.

As I reminded the women there, we if we're

not having fun, if we're not playing, if we

don't have these moments of being silly,

like we're so serious all the time and for

good reason, we have to run our businesses

and do our and do our work and do well at

it. But it's also fun just to come together

and play, but really get get.

It's like productive play.

It's for it's for a greater purpose for both

personal and professional growth.

So you can get all the details about our

workshop and sign up as speaking your

Brand.com slash workshop.

Again, that's speaking your

brand.com/workshop. Tara.

Wendy, thank you so much for taking the time

to chat with us today.

Tara Lassiter:
Thank you, thank you.

This was great. And anybody who's listening,

please do that workshop.

It's if a zoom gets you ten x, a workshop

will get you 100 x. Like you will not regret

that in-person experience and you're in the

best hands. You will leave a better speaker

than you arrived in the morning.

Carol Cox:
Well thank you.

Wendy McManus:
I have I have nothing more to add because

Tara just literally took the words out of my

mouth. I'm a very big proponent of speaking

your brand and the work that they do.

If this is something you're interested in,

just go ahead and do it.

You will be surprised at what you get out of

it, that it's probably far exceeds even what

you intended when you signed up.

And thanks very much, Carol, for having me

on.

Carol Cox:
Well, thank you again so much.

Until next time, thanks for listening.