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Hello, everyone. I'm Brandon Lewis. The

Tennessee Conservative News joined today

is Senator. Marsha Blackburn to talk

about her gubernatorial run in the

volunteer state. Senator Blackburn, thank

you for being here. I am delighted to

join you. Thanks for having me on.

So the audience today is primarily

GOP, almost exclusively just GOP primary

voters all over the state. Your club

presidents, your educational wonks,

folks that keep up with the legislature.

And we're going to talk about a little

bit about illegal immigration

homeschooling. Go

COVID, GOP primaries and

you know, the freedom of the press. And

the first question is because we got a

lot to run through. You know, currently

Tennessee taxpayers are paying about $800

million a year educating illegal aliens.

My own niece, Miss Blackburn,

my sister-in-law discovered she wasn't

learning anything in school and after

three months had a parent-teacher

conference and the lady just said,

listen, we've got twenty-five kids in

here. That speak English as a second

language. I'm sorry, but it's the best I

can do. And so she started homeschooling

her kids. We did a poll here in Hamilton

County, 80 plus percent of GOP primary

voters. It would be 85% in the state on

average, I believe. Don't think we should

be doing it. But when Bo

Watson and William Lambert's bill was

passed for the local LEAs, I mean,

Jeremy Faison, who's, you know, the House

Republican caucus leader, like violently

opposed it, as do a lot of other members

in the House. Even our own local school

board, all the Democrats voted in a

resolution that half the Republicans

voted with and the other half of the

Republicans didn't vote. It seems like

there's this disconnect between my school

board, Ben Daugherty and Jeremy Faison,

and like the GOP electorate. So what are

your thoughts on what this is doing to

our system?Would you support this kind of

legislation?And, you know, can you fight

people in your own party to get it across

the finish line?Well, Brendan, as you

know, I kind of have a history of

fighting people within my party

when I think that it's not the right

decision. That's what happened

when I led the fight against the state

income tax and of

course. You have Bose

legislation. That is something that I

am supportive of. And

this is an issue that the

state, as you're saying, and rightfully

so, people want to see

this addressed. There's a couple of

things we know. Number one, the Democrats

continue to work to try to make

illegal legal.

And that is something when you're talking

about educating our children and when

you're talking about colleges with

children and someone who is

illegally in the country, then they're

taking that opportunity

away from a child that

is legally here

and going through the system. I think we

have to look very, very carefully to

make certain that. We I I

say it's the big five faith, family,

freedom, hope and opportunity and

preserving those opportunities for

our our kids should

be at the top of our list. Now

one of the things I really do appreciate

is the work the legislature has done on

school choice because

this gives parents more say

and. The opportunities

and options that are going to be there

for their children, whether it's public

school, private school, homeschool. We

want parents to have more,

not fewer choices,

and I don't think any

parent should have to win the

lottery in order to have a say

in their child's education.

Another thing that

we are that we

need to be aware of is we talk

about this and

supporting what Senator Watson

and Rep Lamberth are seeking to do

is I've at the federal level worked on

legislation that would remove the ability

of the NEA. To lobby

a government to entities, to lobby the

federal government, you know to try to go

in and lobby for policies that

and we we saw this whether it was COVID

or it's the issue that we're talking

about that would restrict opportunities

for our children. You don't

want to give the union,

you don't want to cede any ground to them

so. Well, that's that's true. I mean,

you've look most of the things and

whether it's in education or automotive

or anywhere else, once they get there, it

may be OK at the beginning, but you know,

just like letting poison Ivy grow up a

tree, it looks real pretty until it kills

the tree. The

homeschoolers, you know, I lived in

Chattanooga and our kids

were zoned when we started getting into

school in a in a school that was overran

with illegal aliens there were.

Shootings in the parking lot, gang

activity, teen pregnancy, drugs. I was

not going to put my 2 girls there. So I'd

spent 20 years paying in taxes and then I

just couldn't send them where I was

zoned, like not with a good conscience.

And so, you know, homeschoolers

outperform in many cases, schoolers from

almost any other situation. Every

week we report in Tennessee public

schools about kids that are raped,

molested, taken advantage of inside the

school system by the very people that it

employs. Yet when we tried to pass a very

simple bill in Tennessee that would allow

homeschoolers to have the autonomy to

educate their kids without government

interference, it it died at the hands of

Republicans. It had passed in 14 other

states. And we had a couple of activist

judges like Rob Phil y'all that sent in a

letter saying, hey, you need to turn this

down cause, you know, these homeschoolers

might beat their kids. And how would we

know?And so when it comes to

homeschooling, Donald Trump, you know,

has proposed a a 10K

tax. Income deduction for

homeschoolers because we're paying into

the taxes, 50% of our money goes to

something we don't feel comfortable

using. What would you say to

homeschoolers on 2 fronts?One is, is our

independence to homeschool and would you

ever support legislation that just

allowed parents to be independent?#2 you

know, is there anything financially even

like a no strings attached tax rebate

or refund or credit or something so that

those that are paying into the system but

opt not to use it, we're still saving.

You know, $12,000 a year on average for

the school system, federal, state and

local when we pull our kids out, but we

can't take advantage of it. What ideas

would you have for homeschoolers?Yes.

And one of the things I think that is

very helpful to this entire

discussion and you're so right about

President Trump and how he has

approached education

and turning that

responsibility back to the

states. And the

US Department of Education is

going away. It is happening very

quickly. And what we're going to

see is that

responsibility, the authority,

the funding comes back to the states. I

was talking to a principal this

weekend and he said he is

so. Looking forward

to being able to say, I

don't have all these federal mandates

on me and I have

the ability to handle

what I think is going to be best for the

children here that we are

seeking to educate. And it's the same

thing with homeschoolers. And you're

very right as the

US Department of Education goes away. And

then your General Assembly here in

Tennessee and also your

state school board and they're

going to be looking at how

they have more choice, more

options and

are able to give parents more

rights and how their child

is educated. The tax credit

that you're talking about, that is

something that is a great idea.

Because parents are paying in, but

they are not pulling that on the

system. There again, this is

something that gives parents

more options for how they would choose

to educate their child. That's

always a good thing. And

as we see the US Department

of Education going away, Brandon, for

me, one of the exciting things is.

Parents are going to be

able and

teachers are going to be able

to be more innovative in how

we teach children. We want children to

learn how to be lifelong

learners, and

opening these doors of opportunity

is a great way that we're going to be

able to do that. I guess I would just ask

specific to the homeschool legislation

that was introduced on parental

autonomy to homeschool without government

interference in Tennessee, which is

really like the the crux of the question.

To me, if you if you put somebody in

charge of a series of restaurants as a

regional manager and only 66% of them

perform at grade level, like you don't

put that person in charge of anything

else. And the way that they're looking at

it now is that homeschool has to be under

this purview of the same institution that

we're saying simultaneously is so bad,

we've got to get people out of it with

school choice. Like it seems weird to put

the failed manager in charge of the good

stores. That are left. So like as far as

autonomy goes and is there any tax relief

that homeschoolers could see at the state

level with autonomy,

parents want to have and should have

that autonomy. As I said, more choice,

more options, more freedom for

parents. You know, one of the things that

I've said as we've talked about the

governor's race, we're a great state,

we're well led. Let's make

certain we are #1. And

individual freedom. And

this is one of those areas that people

want to see the freedom and the

options to handle the education

of their children. Tax relief,

of course, having the ability to

have tax relief for parents, that is

always a good thing, having

them, you know, when you look at things

like tax credits.

And for childcare, tax

credits for children,

then of course having one that deals with

education and not only K

through 12, but college

as parents are working to

complete this education in the

manner. That they see fit that is

best for their child. One thing we've

learned one-size-fits-all

education does not work.

I have two children and four

grandchildren and

I I approach

teaching with each of them

differently. My two children

learned in very different ways, and it

was important to construct that learning

environment for them to help

them learn in the best way

possible. And the same thing with our

grandchildren. They're very different

how they take in information, how

they are, the

areas of interest that they have, they're

all different, so you're never going to

go wrong. When you are giving

parents the ability to

make those decisions of what is going to

work best for their children.

One question. I'm going to try to get to

a couple more because we got short time

here. This is a hard one.

Six years I came. Six years ago I came

out of political retirement. We were on

the Market Street Bridge with a bunch of

people in April 2020 saying we don't

think the masks work. We don't think the

vaccines are going to stop transmission.

My church is closed. My gym is closed.

I've been told I'm non-essential. In

Tennessee, over the next 18 months, 24.4%

of small businesses failed

while big boxes were allowed to be open

as they send their pack contribution and

lobbyists to Nashville. Governor Lee told

people not to congregate to worship God.

He canceled Thanksgiving, according to

the order, shuttered schools, sent kids

home. Pushed the mask,

pushed everything else. The National

Guard didn't have any medical freedoms

during the time. Contact tracing. People

died alone in nursing homes. And this

wasn't the Democrats. Democrats weren't

in power. The Republicans were. And this

General Assembly just kind of stood by

and said, let's see what happens.

Meanwhile, I look at this and I go

constitutionally with the oath of office.

Shouldn't I be able to go to church and

run my business?And do you have any

authority to do this?And so just

just and. Long story short is like, I

can't believe our own party put us

through that relatively needlessly. And

GOP primary voters, Clay Travis talked

about this at an event and everybody's

shaking their head like we're just afraid

that, like if it happened before over a

bad cold, if all our rights could be ran

over by a bad cold. But what in your

record would point to say that you would

have stood by our rights that versus what

we had to go through?Because, you know,

nobody's ever paid a price for those bad

decisions except for the the residents of

Tennessee. And I'm just nervous that

it'll happen again in my lifetime. And

what we have to do is keep that focus on

individual freedom, because

government ought not to be able to force

you to shut down your business, not

go to work. Not go to church.

And that is what we

saw happen so many times

during COVID. And what we

have to do is make

certain that we recognize those

individual rights and

freedoms and realize where

those freedoms come from.

And that it is going to be

imperative that

individuals have that right to keep that

business open, that they have that

right to continue to educate their

children, that they have that right for

and that religious liberty and that

exercise of their freedom

and their liberty. Well,

thank you. I'm just still horrified over

the whole thing. And everybody else says

forget, but I just it's hard. It's a hard

thing to forget. Well, yeah, you know, it

it is. And The thing is,

and this is something that points to the

importance of governors and

bringing that power out of

DC and thank goodness,

President Donald Trump. Said he

is draining the swamp. This power

is going back to the states.

And Brandon, you know, I I feel so

strongly we have

been such a

we're ahead of the curve on this

with this authority coming back when you

think about healthcare and

education and energy and all these

policy areas. Our goal

as a state should be

the state that everybody wants

to emulate. The state where people

say I like what they're doing in

Tennessee. We ought to be doing that. We

should be America's conservative

leader. We should be #1 in

conservative policies. We should be

#1. In educating

our children and having those choice

and options, we should be #1 when it

comes to generating energy

that is needed for a growing economy and

improving our infrastructure that is

necessary for a growing economy. We

should be #1 when it comes to

fighting illegal immigration

and supporting our law enforcement, and

we should absolutely be the

number one. State in this country

when it comes to preserving and

protecting individual

freedoms. Thank you so much on

that. Two very quick questions. I'm going

to keep it super short. Number one is we

fought the legislature for like a 10

years, maybe 15 years to close the

Republican primaries to Democrats. I'm an

old campaign hand. I'm pull up the 44

vow. OK, this person never voted. Ever

in a Republican anything, but they only

vote in the Republican primaries. But

they're voting in the presidential

Democrats. Like if they're registered as

a Democrat, their own Facebook posting as

a Democrat. There's hundreds of them

every election. We've tried to get the

General Assembly to close these

primaries. The State Executive Committee

has sent them. Scott Golden has gone down

on bended knee and asked them and got

nothing in reply. Would you be for party

registration to make sure we don't have

Democrats voting in Republican primaries?

I I think it should be Republicans

voting in Republican primaries.

Spread the word around. Tell Cameron

Sexton and Randy McNally. They have not

gotten the notice. One last question and

then and two compliments the

theMy question is, you know, President

Trump's got a really good record of

breaking long standing tradition and

allowing conservative media to actually

show up at government press briefings.

Cameron Sexton has locked us out of the

press briefings. I know because I ask

questions GOP primary voters actually

care about. They like Phil Williams, the

Tennessee lookout, the Tennessee, and

they ain't ever seen a conservative

policy they locked. They lobby against

them actively. But he's like, come on

boys, ask me questions cause it's all

going to come from the Democrats

perspective, which doesn't make a.

Difference to him because he's in the R +

18 district. But where would you be

on like conservative media actually

having access to ask questions about

Tennessee state government?And you know,

this is one of the things I've really

appreciated so much about President

Trump, whether it was campaigning for him

in 2016 and working

with him. Through his

first administration,

working with him as he got

ready to run. And then,

you know, I chaired the platform

committee for President Trump so that we

would have a good solid

platform and he would be able

to make these promises and we could keep

these. Promises. And as I

chaired that platform and worked with him

during the campaign season, it

always impressed me how much

he appreciated how

media had changed. And

when you would do something, you would

have bloggers and podcasters.

And those that were doing streaming

services and so many people that

were there because the old

mainstream media is never

going to fairly cover you. But

it will be the podcasters

and the streamers and people that

are the new media, which is

where most people are getting their news.

They're the ones that are going to really

help get that message.

And I have

appreciated that. I think people are

learning a lesson from what

President Trump has done. And of course,

new media should be allowed to

come in and ask

those questions because they

probably have more of an

audience than some of the old

mainstream media. Well, you're very

kind. We we get more social media traffic

and action like we reach several million

people, even though we have a small

following. They're just the folks that

share everything to close here because

we're over time. Number one is I want to

thank you for taking these questions.

These are hard questions. The questions

you get asked from most of the other

media sources are questions that only

Democrat voters care about. Which doesn't

make them hard, right?It doesn't matter

what you even say to them because you

think there's not who you're running for

the ticket, right?Not that you're not

going to represent all of Tennessee, I

get that. But for the primary, which

comes before the general, thank you. It

shows you've got a lot of guts. It makes

me respect you a lot more. And your staff

has been very easy to work with and they

seem very competent and professional. And

so that you don't always run into that on

campaign. So in closing, I just want to

say if you want to leave, leave the

listeners with some words, but eat your

eat your good nutrition, get plenty of

sleep. This is not a lark. People don't

realize how hard you work on these

statewide campaigns. You've done it

before. So good luck to you because

you're going to need it. Rest up and I'll

let you have the last word. Yes, you

know, it is truly an honor to serve.

The people of Tennessee, and I am

blessed every single day

by being able to talk with and

work with and listen to

Tennesseans. Our state is

a great state and

right now our state does not need a

manager. Our state needs a

leader, a leader who is focused,

who is conservative, who is

determined. And our

state needs a leader who has a proven

history of delivering for

Tennesseans. That leader is me.

And I am looking forward to being the

51st governor of the state of Tennessee.

Miss Blackburn, thank you for being here,

for talking to all of our folks out there

at the Tennessee Conservative. I wish you

the best on the campaign trail. Be

blessed. Thank you. All right, guys, if

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Brandon Lewis signing off.