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Stephen Byrne presents The Knock On with Scoreline.ie, our regular look at what's happening in the world of rugby in Kilkenny, Carlow and beyond.
Hello, and welcome to the Knock on, KCLR Sports weekly Rugby Podcast where we look at everything. Tullow, Carlow, and Kilkenny, and we're back for season whatever it is now. We're a couple of seasons in now at this stage. We started a few years ago, but we're back anyway after the summer what a summer it was as well. I'd say, with the exception of Patty's four g pitch, I'd say, Carlow and Kenny now were were a dark shade of brown there at one stage before the rain came back.
Stephen:But we all got through it anyway. Preseason is back. These are back in the Lentzer League. The Saudi's league is finished and everything, and everyone's happy out. Just a quick hello, Tom.
Stephen:How are you getting on?
Tom:I'm very good. All set for another season. I don't
Stephen:think so. Ran up by your pitch there yesterday. I've been up at the club a few times anyway, obviously, and Jason Gray, old Nick the grass is in fine form since did a bit of work on it there. We year before last.
Tom:Yeah. The first pitch is in I think, good, Nick. There's still a couple of brown patches, so but our second pitch is in a bit of bother because it just some of the grass hasn't come back for whatever reason. So there's there's lovely brown spots. Hopefully, we might get a bit of growth now between now and the next next month or so and and stitch it up.
Tom:If not, it'll be mucky at the end of the season. Well, it depends what type of winter we get. Hopefully, it won't get too harsh.
Stephen:New railings there and everything, Tom.
Tom:Yeah. We got the railings and the new walking track up, which is great. I thanked all the funding and counselors and TDs and so on for the usual usual help that they give. Yeah. But it's yeah.
Tom:It's it's just a place starting to look a bit look a bit more trimmed.
Stephen:Cool. I will catch up with you in more detail, Tom. We're gonna chat to Patty Brown first. Patty, Tullow, busy summer, which is our back out under again. You're up and running, but you're sort of like a lot of the teams, including Carlow, Kenny, you're battling with the footballers and different lads missing.
Stephen:I'm sure you'll have a different injury profiles and everything when you come back in. But how are things in general, Patty?
Paddy:Okay. Thanks very much, Steven, and how are Tom? And it's great to great to be back, and, hopefully, we can look forward to bringing lots of good news maybe more than this weekend, to our listeners. Thank you, Steven, for having me back. And before I get to the field of play, just a few things that's happening in the background.
Paddy:So you mentioned there the the the the drought and the the three g pitch, and we we hosted Carlow there recently in the Southeast Cup. And some of the smart alecks like Bud Murphy and Barry Gordon were quick to point out that the the three G pitch stood up very well to the drought, you know, so I wasn't sure whether they were taking the piss or whether they were actually didn't realize what was underneath the the ground there in that in that particular place. But anyway, that it it it was, and it's more seriously, the Carlow people did know it was lovely to get to play on a on a surface like that with with pitches around the country as hard as rock. So, yeah, it was great to have it for for at at the moment, there really is no doubt. So, yeah, just off the field to play, we had a we have a good few changes in personnel in the support roles, and just to mention a few of those, our new president is Noel Nolan.
Paddy:He was president for a year before, but had stepped down, so he's replaced Mary O'Neill, who did so he was there for two years. The end of oh, yeah. Our chairman, I should say, is Eddie Harkin replacing Robin Johnson. From a coaching point of view, it really is the end of an era for us. Morris Logue with his twelve years and brought huge success to the club, winning three Town's Cups in that time, and bringing us up to the Division one AM where we have been for the last three years.
Paddy:So, like, Morris can take huge credit for that. He's gone on to his own home soil now, he's coaching Wexford, and I have no doubt he'll he'll make a big difference down there. So yeah, we just want to pay tribute to Morris for how he's given to Tullow and brought to Tullow, and he really put in a massive shift for those twelve years, and he'll be sorely missed. But anyway, we these everything changes in time, and our new coaches, we've we've a dual team this year, Dermot Dun and Neil McGovern. Dermot in particular will be quite well known on the on the junior Rugby scene.
Paddy:He's coached a number of clubs, and Liam McGovern is relatively new to the game. And so it's a double act supported by club members, Ahold, Bloomfield, Allen Byrne, and Shane O'Reilly. Our new captain is Mark and Cole, replacing Scott Callback, who was captain for many years, and coordinator Dennis O'Brien replacing Eddie Harpin. Minis coordinator is shared between Irene O'Byrne and Paul Bulger. C c r new CCRO is Jess Keating replacing John Manifold, and the director of Rugby is Derek Hughes.
Paddy:So we wish all those new newcomers best of luck in their role. They're they're they're most of them are will have big boots to fill, and we're very appreciative of of the work put in by all those people who have stepped back, and wish the the new teams the the very best of luck. So moving on to the the field of play, we've had two matches under our belt this year in the league, and two matches in the Southeast. I won't go over all the matches, but just to say that Carlow beat us in Tullow in in the Southeast, and we beat Muros down in Muros. Yeah.
Paddy:Our first league match was on the September 12, and we got a bit of a trouncing from a tie, 55 points to 12. The tie are very very good, and there's no excuses. There were way better in this. You did mention there GAA, and we do we do suffer a bit, suppose a lot of clubs do, with the six or seven lads still playing football, and this has become a problem for many clubs in in recent years with the with the later season for finishing the GA eighth. And I know the GA are coming from a good place to give the dual players a chance and to get the intercounty championship finished before starting the club championship.
Paddy:It's a real dilemma, but it is causing problems for for the likes of ourselves. And it's an interesting statistic that the Thai and they've been very successful in recent years, but they don't have any daily players on their first team, which is very unusual because the Thai is a traditionally very strong football area and our current Caldera County champions. But it was just an interesting contrast there, and it meant that they were out earlier out of blocks and had a good few challenge matches and all of that. So it was a bit it was a big beat by a tie to us. Then last Sunday, we or last Saturday we had our second match, and we we played Wicklow.
Paddy:We had some of our Gaelic players back for that, and we still got a fair old beat. The final score was thirty six fourteen. They got a couple of tries near the end when our heads went down a bit, and we're about ten minutes into the second half, were seven points down, and had a chance to get a try to level the scores. But would you believe an intercept pass by the Wicklow winner winger took away that chance, and they went ahead, went back to score up the other end. So it was really a 14 turnaround, and it might have been a different result.
Paddy:I'm not saying we were good enough to win it, the better team did win, but the 14 turnaround, that does tend to knock the steam out of out of Lazarus. But it was at a time when it was still time enough to to to win the match, but, no, they they kept at us, and they scored two more tries after that. So the the final score line was thirty six fourteen. The Tullow try scores were Shane Duffy and Corey Lee Lewis, and two two conversions from Dara Cosgrave. So that was our loss against Wicklow.
Paddy:So the the team that was lined out was fullback, Derek Cosgrave. On the wing, the three quarter line, Shane Duffy, Rancourn, William Futow, and Jack Hanlon. Pavs, Gareth Fitzgerald, and David Tobin. Front row, Brian Keough, Corey Lee Hughes, Tom Cashin. And the second row, Tom Hughes, Martin Cole, and the back row, Jack McDonald, Fiacoburn, and Scott Carbat.
Paddy:And the subs that were used were Ben Butler, Daniel Whelan, Steven Smith, Tig Walsh, and Keen Leonard. So you those who know the scene will know that a few Gaelic players that were there. We still had few come back, but we we had four back against Whitlow, and it still wasn't enough to to carry the day. So that's the that's our lot. The seconds had had they were well beaten by Wicklow.
Paddy:It was our first time to put out the second team. They were a very young and experienced team, and to be honest, at this for for Tullow, it's great at this time of the year to get out of the second team. We rarely do get out of the second team this early. They were a very young team, so hopefully, there's something to build on that, and Alan Burn was coaching the the second team against Weeklow. So hopefully, we'll be able to continue to put out the second team, because as we all know, it's it's vital to the to the success of the first to have a competition in training and also to have those younger players getting games.
Paddy:And so even at this early stage of the season, there's a gap appearing between the top and the bottom of the table. Three three teams have won their two matches, and they're at the top of the table. That's a tie, Sea Point, and Bayonne. Wicklow and Tullow in the middle have won one match each, and on zero zero point, as I say in the Eurovision, there's ourselves, Dundalk, and Suetonians. So even at this early stage, there there seems to be a bit of a gap opening up between the the best and the worst.
Paddy:But hopefully, we'll get some more players back, and we we are traditionally slow starters for for for a number of reasons, but I suppose particularly the GAA, we hope to get more cohesion in our play. Our coach Dermot Dunham said after the match that, you know, he needs to have them together for a bit longer before the cohesion comes in. And you could see the lack of cohesion there even on Saturday last, and so hopefully that'll come as we get all our players back. So that's the story. I should have said there that it was a very surreal occasion because of events that took place at the end of last season.
Paddy:The tub was penalized, and it was a very unusual penalty in that our ladies and our gents, our men's team, had to play their first two home league matches behind closed doors, and, you know, we usually have a nice, fairly vocal support, and to to just have the teams and the the the support teams there around the pitch was a bit surreal, a strange, and I don't know if it made a difference. It's it's impossible to know. There was speculation that it did allow Wichlow to get off to a quick start, and they did get two tries in the first fifteen minutes, but we're not blaming that on the situation, but just remarking on how strange it was to be playing to a silent pitch or a silent sideline, a very strange one. So yeah, that's our start to the season, Steven, on the men's front. We had a full round of junior matches in the Southeast at the weekend as well, and I won't go into all the details there yet, but we we with a less than successful start than we had in other years, unfortunately.
Paddy:But we are putting out teams at every age division in the in the youth, in the boys, and three girls teams will be fielding shortly as well. So the women's team, there's two new coaches there too, Jason Morton and Gavin Whitney. I have nothing other to say about that really, they are training well, but they don't serve their first league match for another two to three weeks, I think. So we'll talk about that when the time comes. Again, off the pitch, we postponed our plans in the off season there to commence the new dressing room and bar facility, but but are very, very determined to to to kick off with that project as soon as this season ends.
Paddy:So to be our system will go next next April when the season ends, and the the bulldozers will be in knocking the existing dressing room complex and rebuild building a new dressing room complex with more facilities for diversity and for girls teams and men's teams and boys teams, and also a new bar, and the existing bar will be converted into a gym, if you give us a bigger gym than we have currently. Yeah. So that's the scene both on and off the pitch, Steven, an unfortunate start to our first two matches, but here's hoping that we will lift this and and and and get back to our winning ways. So that's it, Steven. Thank you.
Stephen:Oh, bother us at all, Patty. Yeah. It's always a bit of a wobbly start, I suppose, and it's the same every year. It takes a while to get going, and you're just, like, you said, the different things happen in the background and that as well. But onwards and upwards as they say.
Stephen:That's Paddy. Enjoy your weekend, Paddy, wherever you go up to as well.
Paddy:Yeah. I'm on my way to list all races now, so that's the I'm sure I will.
Stephen:No. No.
Paddy:No. No. Tom Just
Tom:thank god it's right there. It's yeah. Yeah. As
Paddy:the saying goes, Tom, have camper van will travel.
Tom:Actually, you're dead. Right? You know, you only live once.
Paddy:That's it. That's
Stephen:as well, isn't
Paddy:It's a good spin. It's good spin. Yeah. It's a it's a long drive. Yeah.
Paddy:Three or four hours there, but we'll make up first.
Stephen:That's it. You're have to tell
Tom:you about much money now, Patty.
Paddy:No. I'm gonna try not to.
Stephen:Good stuff, Patty. That's brilliant. We'll catch up with Patty next week, of course. Tom is here as well. We were talking about Tom earlier.
Stephen:We touched on it about the pitch conditions and all that sort of stuff. But, Tom, you were saying lots of work, footpaths in there around the pitch. The what would you call it? The railings look really, really well. It just tidies it up a lot as well.
Stephen:The pitch is itself is in fairly good nick, the main pitch and everything. A lot of work going in over the last few years, you know, tidying bits up and just sprucing the place up a bit of that as well. Like and, of course, lots of work going on on and off the pitch as well.
Tom:Yeah. No. I'd have to have to say hats off to the development committee and all the people who worked so hard trying to get the grants in and so on for the the walking pitch. The walking track is is is is lovely. We're on we thought we'd only get film done, which was around the kind of the main pitch.
Tom:And we've got phase two up onto the top pitch, and phase three, hopefully, we'll start as soon as we can, and that'll cover right around the top of the pit the top the right around the end of the top pitch. So it'll be it'll be a fine facility, and you know, I'm starting to see parents already starting to use it to walk around while the while the kids are training. So and the railings have really railing railings and two new dugouts as well. We got two lovely concrete dugouts. So the place is looking ship shape.
Tom:You know? But it's hats off to the committee because nobody sees all the work that they do. All people come up and enjoy the facilities and see us play or whatever and see the kids play, but kind of forget that there's a whole army of people behind behind the scenes working, and they're often forgotten about. I suppose I better keep up with keep up with the Joneses there and follow-up Hadi on on a cup we have a couple of changes to to our background team. Adam Cavanaugh has taken over from Meron O'Tullow as president.
Tom:Meron did a fantastic job last year, and I know Adam and Adam have been part of the club. His father was there's Cavanaugh's presence there. A few saw if he's in any bit of a chip off the old block, we're in safe hands for another year anyway. On the first team, we have a new forwards coach. John Farrell has replaced Joe Bullmore.
Tom:John has John has gone up play in the club through for since minis, but John has done an awful lot of work with he works with the IRFU doing stats and going through matches and so on. And he's been working with the Irish sevens and the Irish women, and he has plenty of experience under his belt. He also caught the the SCTU Carlow team last year, which won the which won the the league the league oh, no. Sorry. Won the cup last last season.
Tom:So very, very, very experienced guy. And, as I say, it's only you in the job, but we see we see the effect he's already having at training. And, hopefully, it will as things settle down throughout the season, that John John will install his in his game plan exactly what he wants. If that's the case, it'll be very good. So wish John all the best.
Tom:Our director of Rugby has changed. Paul Chatten has taken over. Paul is probably some may remember him as the the boy wonder played in the the nineteen ninety two Towns Cup final. I think he was on the 18 or 19 at the time. Paul's a really, really, experienced guy with his rugby knowledge, but he's also extremely approachable and very pragmatic in what he does.
Tom:So we're looking forward to working with Paul throughout the year as director of Rugby. Alan Cullen has taken over as new coordinator, and Alan Nolan has taken over as mini coordinator. So there's a good few changes all around, plus or in the seeing the work that they've they've done already. Like, you know, we can see that the the club is in is in good hands for this season anyway. Right.
Tom:We're to the nitty the the nitty gritty. I start off the j twos because j twos had a a very good win over over Gory. Tight game. Good game. Gory were actually so I said, they're more they were a better team than they were last year, and Gadel has a a really good challenge.
Tom:Couple new players came in and had a a good effect on the game. Marcus Kelly came in. He's up from chronic illness just in the college and has joined us. And then all heads, like, Anto Kelly had a great game as well. Luke Chatman came back from Galway to he Luke has played fullback last season.
Tom:Luke has gone to college in Galway, but came back and and played the match at fullback and was a had an extremely extremely good game. And one of the under eighteens that came up Owen Pender, another guy that had a there was actually two eighteens. There was three eighteens on the team from from last, Ed and Eli Rice and Owen Pender, and all three had extremely good games. I'm okay. The second are probably a bit hit because I was were hit with injuries and a couple of retirements on the fourth.
Tom:So everything kinda a bit up in the air at the moment. So Yeah. It was a a superb performance from them for, you know, a makeshift team to to put them on train and get them all together for for the game on Saturday. So I have to say hats off to play with a play with a passion and play with you know, and try to play with the and most as I said, like, for a team that were only put together, I have to say hats off. They put you know, they they did themselves proud, and, hopefully, they'll they will do the same up in Mullingar on on Saturday.
Tom:Now not so good for our j ones. We had a poor start on to the season with a loss to with a loss to gory. We started off really, really well. We were up in the 22. Looked like we were doing looked like we were on target for you know, to to play well and but we didn't convert when we got up into into the 22.
Tom:And we probably played well for about ten, fifteen, maybe maybe a little bit more. But after that, then we just completely kinda sort of fell apart. Gory and fair Gory came out and played very simply exactly the way we played them last season. They're they were on fire fires as their attack you know, their forwards were were were hitting open pods that were hitting in the right areas. They were giving tip ons, and, you know, that causes fierce problems when they when they when they turned defense into attack.
Tom:And their back line back line is good, but we kinda made it probably made them look a little bit better than we should they should have been because they would decide, like, both. But it's just the determination of the way that they play. They had a bite about them. Their whoever made the decisions made all the correct decisions for them on the pitch. Their first their first three penalties that they got in in our half, a lot of teams would have kicked to the corner and tried to get the try up and, know, trying work from the start, but they were very cool.
Tom:They took three penalties, slaughtered three homes. So all of a sudden, were, you know, we're nine points behind. I'm wondering, looking like scoring. Just before half time, I was a a comedy of errors and a few silly mistakes, and we gave them a try. So, like, we went in we went in at halftime 16 nil.
Tom:If we got in halftime nine nil, you know, you might we would it would have been a different game coming back into the second half. But when you're six when you're 16 nil down at halftime already, you could see the heads and then a bit of panic setting in the first game and because we've lost like, it's not an excuse. No. It's used any any way of an exclusive player is missing and injured and and, like, we have a few retirements from last season. Like, Dan is away traveling.
Tom:Some are back playing football. Some of guys are playing football, while Shirley has retired. You know? So it's just we were unsettled. And when you're 16 points down, as I said, at halftime, the panic sets in.
Tom:You you kinda missed that bit of experience that you had on the field, last season because I know but one, we wouldn't have you know, if that was nine year, we definitely would've would've would've turned the game around, especially playing at home. We probably would've played that bit better in the first half. Second half, then there's like, we scored. Patty Rogers come on and and scored it. I really just determined Bruce.
Tom:Put a bit of thickness about him, which we needed and scored a try. But, Patty had to take one for the team a few minutes later and got yellow carded for just a a number of penalties. And that was our issue. We had a lot of we gave away an awful lot of penalties. And that showed a bit of nervousness when we were virgin offside at certain times and and shooting shooting too quick because, you know, last season, our defense was on was on point.
Tom:We come up together. Yes. You will always you might give away a a penalty. And then when your other team is dominant in a game, the referee tends to look in front and not so much behind. That's just the nature of the nature of of the game.
Tom:There's, you know, one team's one team's in front ahead by that much and showing dominance. The referee will kinda tend to look looking forward will look forward and see what's happening in front of him more so behind. And it happens that we did the exact same so this is only a part of the game. It's something to do with the referee. It's just just the fact of life.
Tom:Like, we gave away we came back then. We gave gave away another couple of tries. We got a try back, and they got a bonus point try at the end. So it ended up set thirty seven ten. Like, we were absolutely gutted.
Tom:But I have to say, hats off to Gory. Well side, didn't do anything wrong, made really good decisions on the field. And I can see Gordie causing teams a lot of problems throughout the season. They're very well balanced. And but, look, and I wish them the best of luck until we meet them again.
Tom:But we have to now regroup. We have a couple of changes now for playing Mullingar. The j twos and j ones playing Mullingar on Saturday. J one
Stephen:last air match as well, didn't it?
Tom:Yeah. They're they're they're we're both playing on Saturday. One is a half one, and the j ones are at 03:00, and that's away. So, look, that's a massive game to train. Draw a line under the sand as far as last week is concerned, and we made a couple of a couple of changes in the team.
Tom:Hopefully, we will get a little bit more cohesion and not panic as much. And I think it was probably a little bit of some, like, we there was about four four or five players who wouldn't have had a whole lot of j one rugby under their belt, and they had saved the occasion probably cost them a little bit. But, look, we made changes this weekend. We hope to we have a lot of a lot of things to work on. We need to get into when we get into our 22 attack, we need to come up with points.
Tom:We're spending too much time in the opposition 22 and not coming away with points. And we're at it's a kick, penalty kick, drop goals, try. It doesn't matter what you get. You just need points on the board. And as I said earlier, like, Corey had nine points on us straight away from three from three penalties that he kicked in.
Tom:Said, a lot of teams would have gone to the corner, and they just just they just they were right. Not to take us on on straight away when we were fresh, and they took three points. So, look, we have to do the same next week. We this weekend, We have to have the right attitude going up. We have to sort out our defense as in we're back to what we were doing last year.
Tom:We fell off a lot of tackles on Saturday, which is very unusual for us. We probably had the best defense in the league last year, which is needed to score a few more tries, and we would've been we we wouldn't be in this predict we're in the same division. But, look, we're in a good place as far as as far as the club is concerned with with senior players. We haven't like, we have we're fee we're feeling three teams this weekend again. Our j threes are out.
Tom:Even with all the injuries, lads away, and everything else, we've managed to we're feeling three three adult male teams this weekend. That's a fair achievement to be doing that in September. So, like, we have guys to come back, and I know things will turn around, but we have to get this weekend off to a good start from like, we can't afford to drop more points. If we won't be content if we're gonna be in contention at the end of the season for the top two with a chance to get promoted, we have to we have to perform well this this weekend. And as I said, we have to learn to convert more of our opportunities into scores and take the scores when they come and cut out the mistakes and cut out the penalties.
Tom:But look. I have to say a couple of lads came on. As I said, Patty Rogers came on with the determination with the a bit of thickness that broke Johnny Johnny Johnny Murphy. I think it played really well again in the second half, came out firing, you know, the two Edgell the two Edgells came on, Ona and Reese. They both of them had really good games.
Tom:And both Reese is starting this weekend and on is on the bench again to come on as an impact player, which we need someone to come off the bench and, you know, in the second half with energy. So they were they were they were probably be the best of what we had at the we had at the weekend as Josh scored or Josh scored the other try. Justin didn't do a whole lot wrong on on on on the wing either. Like, what's when you're not getting the ball, it's a Yeah. You can't really judge
Stephen:Wrong every day out there, Tom.
Tom:Yeah. It is. Yeah. Look. No excuses.
Tom:We lost sin plain and simple. We didn't perform as well as we we we should have performed. We can't blame any outside influences on us. Was our own it was our own the team we put out should have competed. It didn't compete.
Tom:So I looked at this weekend as important. So hopefully hopefully, this weekend, we'll get out and change the attitude and hopefully come away from Mullingar with some points, which is is what we're going for. And that's really it from the men's the men's end of things. The women are out again. They had a friendly over in Port Leash Worked.
Tom:They're kinda rebuilding the women's teams again. This is year three. We've two new coaches in there as well, a new coach in the team, and started rebuilding. We're actually getting a couple of new players in. Some have retired when we got some of the the guys who were just came back.
Tom:Like, they were the older players who just kinda can't have played in the past and came back, but a couple of them have retired and a few younger ones have gone off to college and so on. But they're rebuilding. They play at portly. They made they they played extremely well for and the girls that never played before actually fit themselves proud. So look.
Tom:They're the first they're firstly they're out this weekend. They're who they're playing and to be honest, it's bad to say. I don't know who they are, but they're called 3¢. They're playing 3¢ at home at one o'clock on Sunday. Just on the youth youths, talking for numbers in a couple of we're we're looking for new players.
Tom:So anybody out there who listen has a son or daughter Yeah. We have training for all teams, girls and boys, and minis there on a Sunday, which is minis actually increasing since we changed to Sunday. It seems to suit suit people better with soccer and so on. So the minis are there up to under twelves every Sunday. And then our youths train throughout the week from under thirteens under thirteens, fourteens, fifteens.
Tom:I have to remember this this year. Seventh we're not doing sixteens this year. We're playing under seventeens and under eighteens. So last weekend, we had our under eighteens had a good win over, three nineteen. The 18 rhinos and first of the girls last to thirty three five, but they're only putting the team together again.
Tom:They have a lot of players who who just too old and had to or finished up last season. The under fifteens beat for thirty five twelve. And you're asked then under seventeens played last night. Actually, it was a cracking game, and they only lost 26, 29. And, unfortunately, we had a red car in the second half just for foul play.
Tom:Look. It wasn't it, and it was just a tip tackle that wasn't at at that age. You can't do it, but the referee has to play by the rules. So in fairness, he was correct. And, unfortunately, the poor chap had to be sent off.
Tom:But they played crack cracking game. That's the first time we've had seventeens in a while. We just said, look. We haven't we wanted to kind of it was a bit of a jump between lads coming from under sixteens into our eighteens. So we put it out under seventeens this year to try and give them a chance to develop weekly and mentally coming into their ratings.
Tom:So they well, if we got to the week, around our thirteenth, they're playing we'll are playing New Ross away this weekend, and around fifteenth are playing weekly away. Don't have fixtures for the eighteens. That's the seventeenth played last night, and that's really all that's happening in Carlow this weekend.
Stephen:Lovely. Our Carl Kenny representative is feeling a bit poorly. He says he says by text. So
Tom:We'd have we'd have the public do we tell the public why he's feeling a bit poorly?
Stephen:Self reflected. Let's just put it that way. We'll catch up with you, Kenny. There's a lot of work going on down there as well.
Tom:Well, they had a ding dong. Well, they play it. That was the the maddest score. It was it it was either 53 or fifty five fifty.
Stephen:Yeah. Yeah. No. I haven't seen a score like that in a while now.
Tom:No. We we were actually gonna slack that, man. We're actually gonna slack bench and says it was a defense option in the last weekend. It was just a it was just a just a all attack.
Stephen:Yeah. So It looked like it. Yeah. Run number one into the pitch to the other on both sides. No one really tackled.
Stephen:Yeah. Like, rugby match. Yeah. That's it. So we'll catch up with you next week.
Stephen:Hopefully, he's feeling a bit better. He should be. And catch up with yourself, Tom, as well. Well Pat and
Tom:Just one thing. I want I have to say, can I wish Carlow Town, Holland the best of luck in the intermediate final because there are neighbors next door, so I have to say up to town? They have a massive match there on on Sunday, so we just want to wish them as as as as our neighbors are always very good to us, and we do want a weekend to help them. So we wish our neighbors the best of luck in the final on Sunday.
Stephen:Absolutely. Very, very best of luck to you. Tom, we'll catch we'll catch up with you next week. Best wishes the weekend, and we'll talk about it all and analyze it all next week. And we look forward to the the next matches and everything to come.
Stephen:Great to start the season again. Good to chat to you, lads. I'm a catch up with you next week. Take care, folks.
Tom:Lovely. Thanks, Steven.