Mr. & Mrs. Inglis

All aboard the chaos express! If you’ve got a ticket for this ride, you already know it. It’s the one where there’s never enough time in the day—kids’ schedules outpace yours, work demands keep piling up, and oh yeah, the laundry, dishes, mowing the lawn, and bills aren’t going to handle themselves. Let’s not forget staying connected with friends and family, even though you planned to be in bed by 9 pm…but it’s now 11 pm, and tomorrow starts before the sun does. Sound familiar?

We’re right there with you. Welcome to The Mr. & Mrs. Inglis Podcast, hosted by Shaen and Meghan Inglis—a weekly show where we dive into real and honest conversations about the wild ride of raising kids, growing careers, and managing family and friendships in the middle of life’s beautiful chaos. So grab your ticket and join us for a weekly dose of camaraderie, connection, and a reminder that you’re never in this alone.

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What is Mr. & Mrs. Inglis?

We’re right there with you. Welcome to The Mr. & Mrs. Inglis Podcast, hosted by Shaen and Meghan Inglis—a weekly show where we dive into real and honest conversations about the wild ride of raising kids, growing careers, and managing family and friendships in the middle of life’s beautiful chaos. So grab your ticket and join us for a weekly dose of camaraderie, connection, and a reminder that you’re never in this alone.

Follow and subscribe to the Mr. & Mrs. Inglis podcast and visit our channel and our website at shaeninglis.com to check out and follow our other podcasts. You can also follow Shaen and Meghan @ShaenInglis on Instagram, YouTube, etc. Feel free to share the Mr. & Mrs. Inglis podcast with someone who would enjoy and benefit from our weekly discussions.

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Straight into it.

I'll go straight in.

Such like a softball there.

I mean, you just threw

it up, knock it right out.

You know, a little

Austin Powers throwback.

It's not.

In my belly.

Of course I know that one.

That's not my bag, baby.

It's not my bag, baby.

Okay, so yeah, no.

Yeah, this is uncomfortable.

Comfortable.

You can't shoot, you can't

make free throw, win game.

Yep.

And you know, it's more fun when you win.

Everything in life is

way more fun when you win.

Winning.

Wow, you took us deep on that one.

Wow.

Right, and I don't

know anything about it.

Yeah.

I'm so behind the eight ball.

That's the one.

I think some of that was to make sure I

wasn't the crazy one.

Like I said, it's your date night topics.

It's interesting.

We're chewing on it.

Chewing on it.

But what I was not chewing on was food.

Oh, that was a great transition.

I love the high, I love a good high five.

You should probably work one in like

every couple of episodes.

We should.

It tastes so good in my mouth.

And I was dreaming about eating.

[LAUGHTER]

Like your beautiful blue eyes.

Yeah, my beautiful blue eyes.

And I mean, I am this

doppelganger, basically.

You're this doppelganger.

Coincidence?

Yeah.

I think that you just smell so good.

He beats you by an hour.

Yes, I know he's lying about this.

You're excited for it.

I am, yeah.

That's a little masochistic, but OK.

I mean, question mark?

Question mark.

For the next three years.

Yeah, so I'm--

Not the world I grew up in.

I mean, is that just a Texas

thing, or is that everywhere?

Obviously.

We performed at the Grand Ole Opry.

I mean, it was so bad for them.

You go out on a loss.

That's heartbreaking to me.

As long as you did your best.

Yes.

And if that's last place, that's great.

I was like, that girl will

lie, cheat, and steal to win.

But that's when that competitive nature

is on your shoulders, yours alone.

I mean, my palms were sweaty.

I was so nervous for her.

And she was like, I

don't think that goes away.

There's a weight.

Heavy as the crown.

Yeah, the pastor says this.

There's no hurt like kid hurt.

Some things have to be learned in the

school of hard knocks.

We do kudos to the listener

out there who knows what--

That bad, but we just don't

know what to do with down-hut.

I don't know how to relax.

But we're forcing you to go outside.

That's where it's like,

I'm just feeling as a parent.

I need to let you get over

your bad mood by yourself.

You're at 77 degrees.

How old am I?

OK, so for 30 years.

You're 30?

No.

I've been--

Well, sooner than later,

you'll be able to drive.

And you can finish your own--

Purple.

That work, kind of?

Not really.

Working really hard on that one.

That was really bad.

Got to come up.

We're trying so hard for

this terrible ending every time.

Podcasts.

Well, you finished it yourself.

That's it. That's a wrap.

Welcome to the "Mr. and

Mrs. English Podcast."

I'm Meghan.

And I'm Sean.

We're here to talk about

the wild ride of raising kids

and growing careers,

keeping life together

in the middle of all the chaos.

So buckle up, because we're all in this

crazy journey together.

That is crazy.

Episode 12 into April.

I knew it was episode 12.

Oh, I got to move this.

This little back thing

right here, I realized,

leaned me forward so much.

Because these are very deep.

They're very deep chairs.

Chairs that we are in.

You actually have one,

but I felt like for me--

I know.

I felt like for me

when I was sitting in it,

like it punched me and I was like,

"I look like I've got a

belly the way it sits me."

And you do not have a belly.

I don't have a huge belly

up, but I'm not bellyless.

Well, especially after this week.

And you're fast.

Oh, straight into it.

I'll go straight into it.

Well, you mean you gave me

such, like, a softball there.

I mean, you just threw it up.

Knock it right out.

I didn't mean to do that, but yeah,

I fasted this week

for the first time ever.

Really, that I tried.

Yeah. Right?

Do we want to go into that right now?

I do want to hit that, but gosh,

I was like going to

softball this into like,

"Here's what we did this week.

We're outside today.

Beautiful day. Cleaned up the--"

It is a beautiful day.

Yeah. Let's do general.

Let's just talk about

how nice of a day it is.

I mean, sun's out where we're at.

Yeah.

I wonder if it'll be out when this airs.

I wonder if the listeners can, you know,

if they can

sympathize with our sunny days.

Yeah. Well, I don't know.

I haven't really paid too much attention

to the weather this week.

All right. Well, I

mean, the biggest thing was,

I was going to talk about just the

disappointment of my Jayhawks slightly,

right? Just kind of what

happened back this week.

Wah, wah.

Yeah, I knew it.

I actually picked them in my

bracket to lose to Arkansas.

You did.

You had them going

out in the first round.

This is old news for

everybody at this point in time,

because now we're into the

Sweet 16-ish Elite Eight.

Yeah, we're Sweet 16 and Elite Eight.

By the time this comes out, by the time

people listen to it.

So, yeah, that was frustrating.

Yeah.

But I knew it was coming.

We just--we can't box

out. We can't rebound.

We can't shoot. We can't

make free throw, win game.

Yep. Yep.

There's a lot of things we can't do.

Our fifth-year senior,

who won a championship?

Yeah, Ed.

And, you know, he kind of peaked last

year, maybe, in his career,

and this year he turned the ball over.

Yeah, yeah. He just--he wasn't the same

player that we've seen, I think.

It's funny.

This is one of those

things that's funny to me.

Like, I know enough about the Jayhawks,

because we watched the Jayhawks men's

basketball team quite a bit,

as much as we can.

And the kids don't

watch it that much anymore.

Maybe because it was a boring year.

Maybe.

And, you know, it's

more fun when you win.

It always is.

Everything is in life.

Everything in life is

way more fun when you win.

Winning.

Yeah, yeah.

You know, but what was I

going to say about that?

I don't remember now.

Oh, I know what it was.

Is the fact that--I

don't watch a lot of other.

No, no.

Other than the teams like where we went.

You know, we watched Iowa football.

We watched Jayhawk

football now, too, because--

Yeah, we did.

Jayhawks have been okay lately.

But I am not the dad,

and you're not the mom.

Some moms are good at this, but a lot of

dads are really good at this.

They know everything

about, like, every team.

Like, I don't know

where they have the time

or what they substitute

to listen to talk radio.

Maybe they listen to talk--I know they

listen to talk radio.

Yeah, they must.

They don't really get a lot of it from--

if it's on the way of

commuting or what it is.

But I have got to

be--when it comes to sports--

and I'm a sports guy.

I love sports.

Oh, yeah.

I played all the sports.

Exactly.

But, I mean, I'm the most boring person

in the world to talk to about sports

because people are all, you

know, like, "Oh, the Big 12."

Like, they'll be talking

about things that are happening

that I should probably know about.

Like, I don't know if some of the

conferences are changing

or the portal and all that kind of stuff.

Like, all these big topics.

Yeah.

Right?

And I don't know anything about it.

Yeah.

Not to mention, they can pick out a

player at some college

that they didn't go to, and you're kind

of surprised they follow,

and then name the

stats of that one player.

And it's like, "Wow, that's--that is--"

In detail.

Yeah, it's impressive.

It is.

I don't know.

Isn't it just time of life

for us that we don't have that?

No, because most of our peers

are in the same time of life.

So, I mean, they're

literally, A, smarter than me by far,

which I probably say.

I don't think so.

But B, they're substituting time that I

use for something else

to learn about that.

Right.

You know?

It's not like I listen

to a lot of podcasts.

Like, I do listen to Smart List.

Yes.

But I haven't done that.

I mean, like, this week was one of the

first weeks I listened to it

in probably three months.

Right.

Because I've just been busy.

Right.

So, it's not like I'm listening to just,

you know, entertaining type things

or, you know, I don't take in a lot of

television and stuff like that.

No.

But somehow they're spending time

learning that stuff.

Yeah.

And I'm not.

Sometimes I just feel like

I'm so behind the eight ball.

Well, I don't know.

I think you're not behind the eight ball

in a lot of other things.

Of course.

And you are ahead of the eight ball in

all of the things that,

at least for me, count, right?

Yeah.

With family, career.

You're ahead of the

eight ball on all of those.

Yeah.

I'm up to speed on most, you know,

domestic issues, things you'll find

on, you know, in the news, the newspaper.

Absolutely.

I'm fairly educated when

it comes to those things.

But as we all know nowadays, those aren't

really safe topics to talk about

as much these days.

We're not going to have a podcast around those things.

We're not going to have, yeah.

And people who are on the sidelines don't

talk about it that much anymore.

No.

It's just everybody's known it's been

divisive for eight years or so.

Yeah.

Even if we kind of know where we're at,

people don't really, they've learned.

Early on, I think people are like hit you

in the head, like hit you in the face

with this is how I feel about this.

And, you know, I'm standing by this or

I'm totally against this, whatever it

might have been.

Thank goodness.

Most of that I feel like other than some

of the diehards on Facebook or the

diehards and other, you know, social

media where it's not as in your face.

Yeah.

It's definitely not face to face.

No, no.

That's been nice that that's not as much of an issue anymore.

We've all learned to just kind of ignore

and keep it in real life, which is

very small circles.

Probably not great, but anyways, so.

Okay.

Well, you took us deep on that one.

Wow.

We went into political issues like, not

really like some of the current events,

not really, but talking about how people

don't talk about them nowadays.

Because it's just too.

Well, you know, as I mentioned to you

earlier today, we're outside doing some

of the cleanup in the backyard.

And I've got there's three podcasts that

I just I have I have a passion for.

Right.

One is just the lighthearted.

Let's get your day off to a good start.

You know, stay positive in life, you

know, and you know, I

am someone that I I'm not

a guy that has to

have a saying every day.

Like I need someone to

inspire me today to get out of bed.

I don't need that.

But I enjoy.

Yeah.

I mean, it's a good story, a good

inspiring quote or something like that.

You know, they just they can sometimes

really resonate with you like.

Yeah.

And it's not every time that you hear one

that you're like, oh,

that that's the one,

you know, but every now and again, you

get those that are really that resonate.

But I mean, your podcast, you know, your

morning serial podcast is

such a great way to start

the day on a positive note.

It's funny.

It's quippy.

And yet you also talk about how to get

better as you read through

self-motivation books.

Yeah.

And my original degree was in psychology.

Yeah.

Right.

So I had a little bit of a interest in

that because I got my initial

undergraduate degrees

in that.

I think some of that was to make sure I

wasn't the crazy one.

Knowing the family I grew up in and

again, not trying to dig

up any old ghosts there

or whatever.

But but yeah, there

was a little bit of that.

Yeah.

And obviously you're not going to make

any money with a

psychology degree unless you

continue on in it.

Right.

You're going to be a doctorate.

But my point was, so I've

got that one lighthearted.

Yeah.

You know, you're not

digging into anything.

You know, it's not

super, super sophisticated.

You know, it's not overly educational

from, you know, I mean,

I've been in finance for

25 years.

So, you know, I don't it's not like I'm

having a finance talk show.

Right.

I'm talking about leverage and debt

ratios and, you know,

syndicated deals and, you know,

where the markets are at.

None of that.

Right.

And then we have this podcast, which I

think is great for just

kind of it's kind of light

levity.

Yeah.

This is more of like the

domestic type things, right?

This is about family life stories.

Yeah.

You know, like I said,

it's your date night topics.

Yeah.

You know, what did you do this week?

And sometimes you do have a serious topic

or two in which we have got it.

Like last week, we talked a little bit

about, you know, code

reds and, you know, the kids,

you know, being locked down in school.

But I've got the third podcast, which is

called Life Happens.

Yes.

And I haven't done anything with it

because my initial thought of

that was I want to interview

people that have had like a really good

story of overcoming an

obstacle and continue on

to persevere and be successful.

And I haven't pursued it greatly.

I did put some things out there just to

see if anybody, you

know, wanted to be on that

show and talk through some of those.

Because the intent of that show is that

that's a show I want to dig in on.

Yeah.

I want to have that show has teeth, like

to talk about real

subjects, you know, or I could

unpack Maya bringing a little bit more.

Right.

You know, unpack some of these other

issues a little bit more

in there, but still in a

positive direction and personal growth.

Right.

And if you look at the website, you know,

that's what it talks about.

You know, it's just this hierarchy of,

you know, kind of where you

are in this self-improvement

journey.

Right.

Until you get to a point

that's a very healthy individual.

And we're all in there somewhere.

Yeah.

And I think it's fluid to some degree.

Sometimes you make it up there and it's

like sliding and then

you have some slide back.

Right.

Life's like that.

But I talked about maybe you and I may be

doing some of that and

taking on some bigger

issues and we're just,

they were chewing on it.

Right.

And it's not that anybody needs more or

wants more of us, but I

do think there's room.

And even if it's just for

us, like this is fun for us.

Yeah.

But maybe that's also for us to, you

know, get some of those

bigger issue, deeper issue.

Yeah.

Type items out there.

I don't know.

Yeah.

It's interesting.

We're chewing on it.

Chewing on it.

But what I was not chewing on was food.

You were not chewing on food.

Oh, that was a great transition.

That's a high five.

That's like a third or fourth high five.

I know.

I did feel I love the,

I love a good high five.

You should probably work one in like

every couple episodes

we should, you know, high

five.

But that was a great transition because

you, you were, I was, I

did tell you how proud

I was of you that the morning when, when

you actually broke

your fast at breakfast.

But yeah, you went on a, was it 60 hours?

It ended up being 60.

Yep.

60.

Wow.

I've been thinking

about this for a while.

Yeah.

But you did not tell me you were on a

fast until like, well

until that evening and I

was like, Hey, do you want me to get you

something for dinner?

Cause you were running out of the house

with one of the kids.

Right.

And I was like, what do you want me to

make you so that you

can take it with you?

Right.

You're like, I'm fasting today.

You didn't even tell me about it.

So what made you pick that day?

I have to know.

I knew I'd done it before to some degree

for, you know, 18

hours at a time or whatnot.

And it's fine if I'm

not thinking about it.

And then I've heard, and I did some

research that there's some

really great health benefits

from it.

Yeah.

Right.

So plus you and I have always talked.

I mean, I talked to you a lot about like,

I just, you need to

help me watch my portions.

I love eating.

You know, you're a great cook.

We eat very well, you

know, and it's hard.

It tastes so good in my mouth.

So I want to put more.

I want more in my mouth.

Right.

Exactly.

So this time I did it and I didn't tell

you because I don't know.

I mean, I don't know that you're someone

that would get on board with doing fast.

And I didn't want to make you feel bad

about eating around me

because I was on a fast.

You know, so the longer I could hold off

telling you, like, I didn't

want you to feel bad eating

around me because I don't think a fast,

correct me if I'm wrong,

but maybe you will do it

in the future with me.

But you're not.

You like eating too.

All 105 pounds of you prove that.

Right.

I mean, you're lucky.

Some of us are not as lucky, right, to be

able to eat whatever

we want and still stay

small.

Well, I mean, you are not by any means

like roly poly, honey.

So I think it's OK.

I mean, I think you actually did it more

for health benefits.

I mean, yeah, there's a nice side effect

of you could lose weight.

And I mean, you were saying like water

weight even just like.

Yeah.

Well, it's not about losing weight.

Actually, it's about once you get past a

certain point and I

it's not exactly specific

and I didn't do enough research.

I didn't take the time because there's a

lot of other stuff going on.

But I think once you get past a certain

point, 24 hours or so,

the body at that point has

already burned off all the calories that

you ate from your previous meal.

Right.

And then it starts, I think, burning

glucose that's stored up

in muscles and protein and

whatnot.

And then but that only lasts for a short

period of time after that point.

Your body then starts burning, looking

for fuel in store fat.

Yeah, which is good.

So then it starts eating

store fat, which is good.

And that's one good side ones because

then so the body, you

know, there's something with

like insulin receptors and

uptake and all this kind of stuff.

So those either turn

off, turn on or turn off.

I can't remember what it is right now.

So there's like these two benefits.

But one of the big benefits is that at

some point, researchers

believe after that 24 hour

to 48 and further, because the body is no

longer focusing on

digestion, it turns its

focus elsewhere and it turns its focus to

cleaning up unhealthy

cells, you know, cells

that should be cleaned out of the body.

So the benefits of like regeneration and

clearing out dead cells.

So there's been some, I think, research

that shows like for it's

helpful for like helping

to prevent Alzheimer's.

And, you know, that's one of those

indicators that I have when

we took our blood tests and,

you know, 23 and me and whatnot, you

know, so I mean, like,

those are one of those things

that I'm thinking about.

Is there anything I can

do with living healthy?

Yeah, to maybe prevent that, you know,

because I don't want to

be 74, you know, or 64, 54,

you know, and have a disease catch me off

guard if I if there's something I can do.

That's relatively easy.

So I went 60 hours, it was hard the last

12 or overnight, and I

was dreaming about eating.

I was up a lot that night.

I was hungry that night.

And then I had that breakfast in the

morning, I put it on

Instagram, but I probably could

have gone further that day.

I feel like I'm

talking, I am talking a lot.

I've talked 80% of the

time on this podcast.

I'm sorry, everybody.

But you know, but I think 48 hours is

good, especially if you do it.

A true I was on a liquid coffee.

Yeah, one.

Yeah.

And halfway through it, I figured out I

was topping my coffee off

with cream that I thought

was non caloric.

It's no sugar, but it

does have some calories.

So the fact that I probably had 80

calories in the first 24 or 30 hours.

And don't get me wrong, that's a lot less

than I normally eat.

I was like, that's not enough to.

But that allows the body it doesn't

trigger some of those

health benefit triggers if you

have that.

I think I'm going to try to do 48 hour.

A 40 hour fast every month is what I

think I'm going to do,

which was pretty easy.

The first day was hard.

Yeah.

If you get to the first

day, the second day was cake.

Didn't even think about it.

Wasn't hungry at all.

See, that's crazy to me that by the

second day, you're like, yeah, it's fine.

That's what most people say.

I mean, from what I've researched.

Well, we watched that show.

It was really interesting.

So I'm just going to start calling you

Chris Hemsworth, right?

Well, for a lot of reasons.

For a lot of reasons.

Yeah.

You look just like him.

Like your beautiful blue eyes.

Yeah, my beautiful

blue eyes, my blonde hair.

Actually, I don't even

know if he has blue eyes.

My Thor physique.

Thor physique.

I mean, I am 6'4", just like he is too.

I mean, I am his doppelganger, basically.

You're his doppelganger.

Actually, we are friends with a guy

that's close to his doppelganger.

Yeah.

But it's, yeah.

You get stopped all the time.

Is his name Chris also?

Yeah.

I just put that together.

Coincidence?

Yeah.

I think not.

Dun, dun, dun.

No, I'm just kidding.

Anyway.

But he did a whole show, Limitless.

And it's these things that are, yeah,

they were to help him

live longer and stuff like

that.

And one of the things.

I think he had the same thing though.

He saw that he had this like Alzheimer's

flag or something like that.

He did, yeah.

In fact, they made kind

of a bigger deal of it.

Like he's coming down with Alzheimer's.

He's not.

I know.

It's true.

We aren't friends

with him, nor his doctor.

So we don't know.

But he was talking about the fast and he

did say that first day was really hard.

I remember there's actually a scene.

He's like cooking bacon for his kids and

he's like, I hate this.

You know?

Yeah.

Which, you know, at least I didn't cook

bacon while you are on

your fast because that's

one of those things that.

Yeah.

It just smells so good.

Yeah.

That dinner that night was

really good that you cooked.

So anyways, yeah.

That was interesting.

That was my first one, really.

It was funny because I've got a cousin

that I sent an Instagram out to.

Yeah.

Or I sent an

Instagram out saying 60 hours.

I made it.

Anybody up for the next one?

Well, he texted me back almost

immediately later that day.

He was like, I just

finished a 61 hour fast.

He beat you by an hour.

Yes, I know he's lying about that.

I mean, oh, it just so happened.

61.

60 hours in five minutes.

Yeah, exactly.

That's five minutes more.

Excuse me.

Anyways, but he's trying

to do a hundred hour fast.

Whoo.

Which seems crazy.

I mean, that seems too much to me.

48 seems about right.

Yeah.

And I'll be curious if on the next one,

if it's different

because I can't cheat on that.

That first 30 hours I had that creamer

and I didn't realize it.

Yeah.

So maybe that maybe I would have felt a

lot more hungry the first

or second day if I hadn't

done that.

Maybe easier because you

know what to expect more now.

I don't know.

I'm not sure.

Yeah, I'm excited for it.

So I'll do one in April.

You're excited for it.

I am.

Yeah.

That's a little masochistic, but okay.

Well, I mean, I always, I mean, as you

get older, you want to

take care of your body.

Yeah.

And we are not getting younger.

You know, and I think that's one of the

things that, you know, a

lot of people, I think that

listen to her in the same age group or

they've been through this before.

And if you're even, even if you're at an

older age, it's even

more important probably

to take care of your body and making

healthy decisions, you

know, just to try and make

sure that those, you know, older years

are healthy and enjoyable.

Right.

You know?

Yeah.

All right.

Well, I just talked for 20 minutes.

So it's your turn to talk.

I don't know.

I told you that morning.

I was like, I'm really proud of you.

I didn't want to say too much at the time

because it's one of those things.

Like if I keep bringing it up, like, oh

my gosh, it's so cool.

You're on this faster.

I'm so proud of you.

You're so great.

Part of it's like, I didn't want to bring

up food in front of you because I'm like,

I don't want to remind

you that you're not eating.

Yeah.

That's what I did afterward.

Yeah, it was fine.

No, it was fine.

It was interesting.

So I'm excited.

You know, I am excited to try it again.

Yeah.

And hopefully some of those benefits

that, I mean, the

benefits are all on paper, right?

It's nothing that really can measure.

I didn't, I didn't, I didn't even weigh

myself before or after.

Right.

So it's not like I was like, oh, I lost

10 pounds of water weight.

That wasn't the point of it.

Points just to be more healthy.

I do need to eat less.

Portions are way too much for me.

Like even since then, my portions on

those last, these last two

days have just felt higher.

And maybe I didn't eat that much more

than usual, but maybe I

shrunk my stomach a little

bit.

Right.

And it felt like way more because right

now I feel like my

belly is way out there.

My belly.

Your belly?

Well, it's not.

Get in my belly.

You know that one?

Oh yeah.

I know you know that one.

Of course I know that one.

I think most people are a

generation know that one.

I think so.

You know, little Austin Powers throwback.

That's right.

Such a funny movie.

I wonder if that's appropriate for kids.

That's one family.

That's movie we have

not watched with a family.

I wonder if it'd be

appropriate for the kids.

That's not my bag, baby.

Okay.

So yeah, no.

Might not yet be.

There's a lot of scenes coming back
right now that are just.

It might not yet be. It's not mine.

It's not my bag, baby.

Okay.

Not probably

appropriate for our kids yet.

Great movie.

But yeah, there's a couple of scenes in

that that aren't ready for it.

You know, movies I think have changed

over the last few years.

Like what we watched in the 80s.

I mean, PG 13 in the 80s.

Holy cow.

Not appropriate.

I mean, that's easy and

our rated our movie nowadays.

Yeah.

Easy ours.

I mean, we've made that

mistake a couple of times.

Footloose was one like I do.

I did not remember some of those scenes

and I was like, Oh my.

Like, cause we're

like, Oh, it's a classic.

You kids will love it.

We're like, close your eyes, everyone.

Close your eyes.

Mm hmm.

Yeah.

Oh yeah.

There's a lot like that.

If you haven't watched yet some classics,

but they might, they

might just have to watch

those on their own.

There are some things as a parent.

Yeah.

I don't want to be sitting there with my

kid when they see it.

Yeah.

I mean, even as an adult, I remember one

time watching Saturday

Night Live with your mom

or something like that in the room.

And I was just like,

yeah, this is uncomfortable.

Uncomfortable.

We watched.

Remember there was that one time we

watched The Notebook and

your stepdad was there.

Yeah.

And there was that one

scene where it's like, yeah.

Yeah.

Cause I completely thought

that was an innocent movie too.

There is one scene in that.

It's like, is your bed

comfortable down there?

I mean, are you saying warm enough?

I get you anything like a water.

Yeah.

Do you want to get it?

I'll call you back up when we're ready.

Oh, it's funny.

We'll call you back up

when the scene's done.

Yeah.

Oh, well.

Yeah.

Well, the other big thing that happened

this week was our oldest

was in his second varsity

game.

Yes.

Yeah.

It was really cool.

Um, they were in the playoffs.

Yeah.

It's playoff time now, which by the way,

the first game of the

playoffs is during spring

break.

I mean, question mark, question mark for

the next three years.

Yeah.

So I guess no spring break trips for us

for the next three years.

I guess not.

I guess we know that now.

Yeah.

And so we can plan accordingly.

Yeah.

We should probably remind all the kids

that, you know, spring

break is not going to be

like what it used to be.

Although did you have that?

Because I mean, you played all the

sports, um, at least where

I was from basketball was

a winter sport.

And so there was always basketball, like

practices and games over Christmas break.

And so, you know, the basketball, if you

skipped one over

Christmas break, you didn't play.

Did you have that?

Yeah, definitely over Christmas break.

Yeah.

So you couldn't go anywhere at Christmas.

It was never thought.

Okay.

Over Christmas.

Got it.

Maybe it was the thought.

Oh, you guys did.

You guys did some traveling.

We never, yeah, we never had.

We've always spent

Christmas at my grandparents house.

Yeah.

So no, that was not a thing for us.

I think maybe twice we went out, but we

had one grandparents in town.

Yeah.

We did Christmas away twice, I think way

before I ever played sports.

I mean, okay.

I think I was eight the

last time we did it, maybe.

Got it.

Well, and you did have family.

You had quite a bit of

family that was like in the area.

We didn't have any family in the area.

So to see family at Christmas time.

Yeah, we did.

We went to them.

That's right.

Yeah.

Okay.

So you never went out

anywhere over Christmas because.

Well, Christmas break is not at least the

way I grew up is not a

time when most people

are like Christmas break.

Let's go on holiday or

let's go on vacation.

Right.

Yeah.

That's just not the world I grew up in.

I mean, spring break was

definitely a time to go.

I think most people think

about that now or over the summer.

Right.

Now we have fall break.

Which is weird to me.

I'm going to be honest.

I don't know why all of a sudden this

year we decided to give

kids a week off in the

middle of the fall.

A whole another week off.

I get a long weekend,

but in October, right?

I think it's October.

Yeah.

And then you get another week off

basically in November.

Yeah.

For Thanksgiving.

Two weeks.

Is that just a Texas

thing or is that everywhere?

I don't know.

We always had like a long weekend.

Like when I grew up, we had a long

weekend in the middle of

October and our kids up

until this past year always had like a

long weekend, right?

You got two days off.

You got that Thursday, Friday, and then

the weekend that was

usually that was considered

the fall break up until this year.

Now it's a full week.

And I think working parents are all like,

Oh, why are we doing this?

I just, again, I will

say on this, I do not know.

Kudos to those of you that work in an

office or have to go or

to, you know, I don't know

how people, if you don't work from home,

I don't know, and

have a flexible schedule.

I don't know how you do it.

How you do anything.

Especially the age our kids are.

Yeah.

You know, like I think people who have

little kids, they still

have to take them to daycare.

Right?

Because you can't work at

home and have a toddler, right?

You got to actually watch your toddler.

They can get into trouble.

Whereas like I trust that our 13 year old

is not going to stick

her finger in a light

socket.

Right.

So, but yeah, I don't, but

the, but we're gone so much.

We have to get them here and there.

I don't know how we would do that if we

had to go to an office.

I have no idea.

It's a different world now.

It's a different animal.

Totally different.

But back to the game,

that was another thing.

Yeah.

Cause we had to leave it like five

o'clock to get all the way, way far away.

I mean, what we had to drive an hour to

get to this game or something.

It was felt like that.

Well, I mean, yeah, it was a long ways.

We drive forever.

I mean, anybody that

lives in the DFW area.

So I grew up in Colorado Springs, which

is an hour south of Denver.

And anytime we had to play in Denver,

whether it was soccer or

basketball or whatever the

support was, that was like a

long ways to go to go to Denver.

It was a big deal.

It's like, we got to go to Denver.

I had an uncle that lived in there.

We have to go to Denver.

Yeah.

It was like a trip.

Yeah.

Well, that's actually shorter than

basically where we go

every night to practice almost.

Almost.

For soccer.

Mm-hmm.

And then almost, what, 90%

of our games are that far.

Are that far.

So when you say we drove an hour, I mean,

it was probably not

that much further than

we usually go, what, we go northeast a

little bit or just more east.

This time we went south of Fort Worth,

which is just a way worse highway.

It's a way worse community.

Yeah.

Community is terrible.

It's just a lot worse, I think.

Yeah.

But I mean, overall, it

was super cool to see.

And I was really proud.

I think the whole team played so well.

But it was one of those games that it

just, it broke your

heart because you know that

that could be the last

game for those seniors.

Yeah.

And you're like, I just, my heart went

out and I remember

telling you in the middle of

the game, I was like, I'm going to

remember sitting here

with my kid as a, how do you

remember, as a freshman, feeling like,

Hey, at least I still

have three more years of

this, like win, lose or otherwise.

Like I still have another few years of

this, but when that's when

I'm sitting here in three

years, I'm going to be a wreck.

I think it's a different, yeah, I think

it's a different

feeling when, because I'm not

aware that any of those

seniors are playing in college.

Yeah, I don't know.

I don't think so.

Our oldest didn't tell us

that any of them worked.

I don't think any of them are.

So yeah, I think, you know, that's a

closing of an era for

someone that, you know, they've

probably played soccer the whole

childhood life through high school.

And a lot of people play high school

sports, but I mean, you

know, if you're not going

to, if you're not kind of that next

echelon athlete playing

in college, that's it for

you.

You're, you're done.

And that's, that's gotta be

a big deal to some people.

I know you feel bad.

Yeah.

It's a closing of the chapter.

And well, even without that, right.

I mean, like you, you were a

dancer your whole life, right?

So you danced and I mean, I don't think

you danced in college that I'm aware of.

No, I don't know that.

I don't know.

I mean, I just don't

even know if that existed.

It was my, my point.

Yeah.

My point to that was, um, but I mean,

like, how did you feel

when you knew it was kind

of your last performance?

Yeah, I, it was sad.

It was really sad.

Yeah.

And it helped that we, that last

performance we did really

well, at least, you know, for

high school, we did really well.

And so that helped that.

But I mean, it's still just like, that's

the last time I'm going to step onto that

floor or that stage or.

Were you thinking of it

when you stepped onto it?

No.

Okay.

No.

After you were stepping off.

Mm hmm.

Yeah.

And then it, then it's just kind of sad.

Is that the swing choir?

No.

So we were, we did have show choir.

That one was different.

That one night we did know.

I don't think that

actually was our last performance.

I was the last

competition, but we went to nationals.

We were number two in the nation.

Yeah.

Um, and we honestly, the,

the one that one should have.

So I don't think, like, I remember being

like, I'm super proud of that.

We did really, really well.

Do they base Glee off of your?

Obviously.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

Love Glee though.

It was a really cool show.

Yeah.

I mean, that was super fun.

It was so different.

And yeah, but that was a

really close knit group.

And yeah, it was

really, it was pretty cool.

Like I think we're all pretty proud of

the fact that we did that.

And sure.

Second in the nation.

It's nothing to snub.

Not that all high schools have one and

stuff like that, but it was for total.

We performed at the grand old Opry.

I mean, how many people can say that

they've performed on that stage?

Like that's pretty cool.

Yeah.

It's an awesome experience.

I don't know.

How did you feel like when

you knew it was your last game?

I mean, I was aware of it for sure.

You know, my, I remember this, I'm

talking about basketball right now.

I mean, I was aware of it, you know, but

I was, I already knew

I was going to college.

So I knew I'd play more.

But I was aware of, you know, like he, it

was in a way game and

coach pulled me out,

you know, so that I could get innovation.

Yeah.

Innovation.

So people could clap for me.

Yeah, of course.

They could clap out.

Yeah.

So I did get, you know, a

nice, you know, send off.

For that, you know, and so I remember

tears came into my eyes

because I got a good send

off.

Yeah.

You know, and that felt good that I was

appreciated at that point in time.

But I don't, I don't remember being sad

that it was like, Oh,

I'll never play, you know,

high school basketball because I was

going on to play college ball.

So I wasn't, I wasn't sad about that.

I was excited for the

next level, I think.

Yeah.

At that point in time.

But, you know, I can, I can see how, you

know, I mean, I never,

I never really had that.

So I mean, it's tough to, yeah.

You know, if, if, if for my, for my

basketball, quote unquote,

you know, career, if, if I

had known the last time I was playing was

the last time I was

playing, it would have

been really emotional.

Yeah.

Because I was never there.

I have no, I was never going in

professional, you know, I

was, I would have been a solid

collegiate player.

Player, yeah.

Likely would have gone whatever.

But yeah, if I would have known, I think

it would have been really sad.

Yeah.

And I'm sure that's how it is for these,

these people that you're

talking about and their

parents and whatnot.

And maybe it's more sad

for the parents too, right?

Probably the parents.

It's a lot into one.

It's a lot of stuff being wrapped into

one, you know, it's this

childhood for 18 years.

It is slowly but surely wrapping up.

That's wrapping up.

And, you know, and most

people don't close on a win.

Like I think that's, that's why it's like

everyone wanted like

Michael Jordan to retire

after he won, you know,

the last championship.

Everyone wanted Tom Brady after he won

his last Super Bowl.

It's like, because you want him to go out

on a win, but most people don't.

And obviously because we didn't go on, it

was their last game.

It was kind of a winter go home situation

for this particular playoff game.

And went to penalty shootouts.

And it's like that kid who, you know, if

it was blocked or

missed, it's just like, oh,

it feels so bad for them.

You go out on a loss.

That's heartbreaking to me.

And we talked about on the way home that

almost everybody goes out on a loss.

Almost everyone goes out on a loss.

Most people don't.

I mean, my senior year, we went out on a

loss for soccer too.

We were favored in state

that year and we lost first run.

And that was like, whoa.

Yeah.

I think we were shocked.

So you didn't even

have a chance to enjoy it.

Yeah.

Oh my God.

We were just kind of shocked

at the, I had a quick upset.

Yeah.

So that was one, but, you know, soccer, I

played for 13 years,

whatnot, but it was not

my love.

Yeah.

I played soccer because I was athletic.

Yeah.

You know, but so I

wasn't like sad about that.

I don't think.

And so most people do, most people go out

on an L unfortunately.

And that's what's,

that's really sad to me.

I don't know.

Maybe I'm just really

emotional this week for some reason.

I don't know why I would be, but you

know, it hit me as kind

of hard because I just,

I will always remember sitting back

there, you know,

especially when our oldest is or

any of our kids are seniors wrapping it

up, at least for

their high school career.

And maybe, you know, there's, there's

chance they go on and

play more, but, or run more

if it's, you know,

our daughter, who knows.

But how, how, I mean, it was just a

really cool experience

for our oldest though.

Right.

It was, he was, if anybody saw the

Instagram thing, they,

they have a program for it and

they listed all the players and their

ages and their, their,

their year in school and

whatnot.

And he was the, our

oldest was the only freshmen.

There was no, there's not

even a sophomore, right?

He was the only freshmen

on both team that was there.

Yep.

So he got to partake in and he got his

name called out when they went out.

He didn't play.

He did not know.

But, but I mean, just what a cool

experience for him to see it.

He's got three years

that he will play in.

He will.

Yeah.

You know what I thought was really cool.

I think we've talked about this before.

You know, he's more of

our introverted kid, right?

Like the other two will have friends over

and he's like, no, I'm good.

I'll just hang out with, you know, you

guys or, or whatever.

But it was really cool to watch him

interact on the sidelines with everyone.

Yeah.

And I mean, he's younger than the next

person on the team by two years.

Yeah.

And he, he acted like he had been a part

of the team forever.

Yeah.

And he was kind of joking with them.

And he was one of the first people to go

over to the kid who

missed the shot, which is what

was kind of that nail in the coffin in

the penalty shootout.

And our son was the

first to go over to him.

Yeah.

I took note of that and

it was, it was pretty cool.

Yeah.

But he did that.

It's like he knew.

So it was good.

It was a proud parent moment.

Yeah.

So.

Yeah.

And it was, it's like, you know, we can

be proud of him even

though he didn't play.

Right.

I mean, it's just like the experience,

just getting the call up

on it, you know, and it's

not that he's the only one that is cool,

but I just, you know,

it's, I keep trying to hammer

to the kid, you know, win our love or our

approval for us to be

proud of you, you know?

Right.

It's great when you are like when I was,

it's great when you are,

when, you know, our, our

daughter's destroying people, you know,

but she's going to be,

we're going to have the

state champ or not this champ.

The city champ.

Yeah.

The city champion meet this week.

This week.

And she's going to go

against the best of the best.

And there's another girl

that's close to her time.

Yeah.

So, you know, she, and

she's been blowing people out.

She has.

But she may not, you know,

and it's like, it's okay.

That's okay.

Don't, you know, you've got more time.

You're going to race against the same

girl for the next probably six years.

Yeah.

You know, you might race against her

because she's also on club track.

Yeah.

This girl might be in club track too.

And you might go against her at all the

national champ, you

know, so get used to it.

I remember the first guy that beat me.

I told her that.

I don't know if I mentioned it on here,

but I mean, yeah, I was, I did.

No, I don't think you did, but like, I

was gonna say, yeah, I

mean like I was, I was

also very, I feel like a braggy docious

now in my stuff here.

I'm not trying to be, but

I was being very factual.

You were very fast.

Actually, I had never lost a race until I

remember the first race I lost.

I was in ninth grade because I was fast.

I, you know, I held

records and, you know, stuff too.

But I remember the guy that first got a

beat me and he and I

were head to head and toe

to toe, you know, in high school.

And he went on to play, you know, at the

Oregon Ducks as a running back.

His sister won an Olympic medal, you

know, so it's like, you

know, again, I'm not going

to go professional at being a track

athlete either, but it's,

you know, it's one of those

things where it's like, be proud of what

you were good at as

long as you did your best.

Yes.

Right.

And if that's last

place, you know, that's great.

You do your best and

that's where you placed.

I will take that all day.

Yeah.

I'm actually, I've started like trying to

help our daughter

because she is prepared for

the fact that like, this is going to be

the toughest meet that she's had.

I just want her to do her best.

She's the first time

she's been pushed to.

So I'll be curious to

see how she reacts to that.

She's super competitive as well.

Like I, you, I thought our boys were

competitive, which they are.

She far and away beats them.

Like even though the games, the around

the world game that

you all were playing last

night, I was like, that girl will lie,

cheat and steal to win.

She will manipulate the, manipulate all

of the components to

make sure that she comes

out on top.

Yeah.

It's just a, it's a

different factor though.

When it's like board games or like that

game we were playing,

opposed to when you're sitting

there it's you because track and field is

an individual sport

for the most part, you

know, and that's a different feeling.

I mean, that is one I do get nervous

about because I

remember being in the blocks.

I remember waiting for that starting gun.

And you know, I feel that for, but that's

one where that

competitive nature is on your

shoulders and yours alone, yours alone.

Yeah.

You're ready in, you know, tracks one

that you just, you just never know.

Some days you're ready for that race.

And some days you're like, I don't know.

I don't know what didn't

click, but I didn't run as fast.

I've run, you know, so

much faster than that before.

Yeah.

It just didn't click tonight.

Yeah.

It honestly, so in the last track meet, I

was sitting, well, we

were sitting, you had

happened to walk away, um,

to film at that point in time.

And I was like, I was talking to our

friend who, she actually

was a college track athlete

and I was like, is it nervous that I, I

mean, is it bad that, I

mean, my pole, my pole,

my poles were sweaty.

I was so nervous for her.

And she was like, I

don't think that goes away.

And I was like, dang it.

Yeah.

Cause it's different when they're part of

a team and okay, if

they mess up, there's other

players on that team that could help fix

that error some somewhere, right?

Before it goes against you, there's

nothing else out there, but

you know, the track athlete.

Yeah.

You know, I was just sitting here

thinking to what it is

for me is it has nothing to

do with winning or losing.

I'm nervous for how they hurt if they

don't win because we're,

we're blessed that we have

athletic children and generally speaking,

it's mostly blue ribbons in this house.

And again, we're blessed and I'm not

trying to be

braggadocious about that, but because

of that, there's a weight,

heavy as the crown, right?

There's a weight to that, that if you

were to consider and it will happen.

There's always going to be somebody

bigger, better, faster at

some point as you get further

along in this, but that's a, you know,

that's a sour pill to take.

I know there's a saying, but it is.

And they're, our pastor says this,

there's no hurt like kid hurt.

And when your kid hurts, exactly.

That's what it is.

I just, I get nervous for them hurting.

I know.

You know, I celebrate them

feeling cloud nine when they win.

You know what I mean?

Cause I'm so happy that they are having

that feeling and that experience.

Yes.

And it is devastating.

And something that I didn't appreciate

until I became a parent.

Yeah.

How much you hurt when your kid hurts.

Yeah.

Whether it's a loss, whether it's, you

know, they feel sad about something.

I mean, it doesn't matter what it is.

And everything you do is to protect them

from it, which is so funny.

It's a whole nother.

I mean, we're getting long now because

we're trying to keep it

short on this shorter on

this one.

Everything you do as a parent

is to stop them from hurting.

Right.

Prepare, like get good grades and in

school so you can go to

a good college and get a

good job.

So you don't have to hurt, you know, not

making enough money to buy

groceries or I mean, that's

all these are everything builds.

You don't have to hurt some way.

You don't have to feel the pain some way.

And that's the ultimate letdown for a

parent is that some

things have to be learned in

the School of Hard Knocks.

They do.

Despite the fact that we

could tell you the way to do it.

Yes.

But they wouldn't

necessarily learn how to deal with it.

Right.

If they never hurt.

Right.

And so it's just, I don't

know how to balance that.

I mean, that's something that I think I

struggle with because it's

like, I know I need to let

them deal with that.

You know, I need to give them space or

whatever it is to deal

with it in the way that they

want to deal with it.

But I don't want, I

don't want the consequence.

Like I don't want them

even though they need it.

And it's, I don't know.

I wasn't expecting that.

Yeah.

But neither was Jamie Lawson.

Neither was Jamie Lawson.

Okay.

Kudos to the listener out there who knows

what we that inside

joke that we just said.

Jamie Lawson.

So anyway, well, we are getting long, but

we kind of talked

about what's coming up next

week.

I mean, we have the meat of champs.

You have champs.

It'll be a big one.

Yep.

It'll be a big one.

And the kids are going back to school.

The kids are going back to school.

Yeah.

Hallelujah.

It hasn't been that bad, but they just,

we just don't know

what to do with downtime.

It's like me.

I don't know how to relax because I've

always got so much to do.

I just, I don't know what to, I don't

know how to relax, but

our kids don't know what

to do when we don't have soccer practice

and we don't have somewhere to go.

No, they don't.

I mean, they, video games, unfortunately

take a lot of that time.

One of our kids was mad today because

we're like, it's super nice.

Get outside.

You're forcing me to go outside.

That's where it's like, I'm just failing

as a, you know, a parent.

No, because I think that's pretty common.

Like, I don't know.

They don't get a whole

lot of downtime to do that.

Although he did go outside and then like

the second time he went

out, he actually was in

a good mood.

So again, this is one of those things

where it's like, I need

to let you get over your

bad mood by yourself.

Right.

Um, so I don't know.

Yeah.

That's the big thing this week.

Yeah.

I mean, it's, it's, we're

finally turning a corner.

It is getting nice out.

Yeah.

It feels like it's been a long winter.

I'm eating every meal this week.

Your back is better.

My back's better.

Your knee is healing.

It's healing.

You're at 77 degrees.

77 degrees.

So, um, you know, I'm

starting to bend it and.

You're walking around everywhere without

crutches, which is fantastic.

Which is like, that's a

whole new lease on life.

Yeah.

You're probably two weeks away from

driving, which will be

another whole new lease on life.

Oh, it really will.

I, it's such a burden or not a burden

that you don't want to

take, but like it's a lot

for you.

There's a lot of driving in our household

and I am excited to

actually be able to drive

because for, uh, how old am I?

But okay.

So for 30 years, you're 30.

I've been driving for.

Wow.

You're going to sell

that one to the team.

I've been driving for 30 years.

And so it's, there is

something that's like, I don't know.

You just feel handcuffed when you're

like, I can't just run

to the store because I, I

need to get something.

Yeah.

So now I need to ask you to go to the

store to get something that I forgot.

You're very homebound to

now that's getting nicer out.

It's just like, you want to go outside.

I kind of just, yeah, I really just kind

of want to drive to CVS

and like, I don't know.

I'll pick up some deodorant.

I don't know.

I don't care, but I

want to be able to do it.

Right.

Well, sooner than later you'll be able to

drive and you can

finish your own carpools.

Carpools.

Does that work kind of?

Not really.

Working really hard on that one.

That was really bad.

Yeah.

I was trying to, you

know, finish your own.

Yeah.

I mean, we've got to come up.

I'm just saying we've got to come up.

We're trying so hard for this terrible

ending every time and it's terrible.

We got to find a better one.

I think.

I, you know, people should comment.

Listeners, I was just

going to say, have this.

Let's comment and, and, and come up with

a better ending because closing.

Yeah.

We want to be able to

finish each other's podcasts.

Well, you can finish it yourself.

That's it.

That's a wrap.

Sign off, sign off on it.

All right.

Well, I think we should let it go, right?

All right.

We should, but have a great week everyone

and we will see you back next week.

See you.

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Straight into it.

I'll go straight in.

Such like a softball there.

I mean, you just threw

it up, knock it right out.

You know, a little

Austin Powers throwback.

It's not.

In my belly.

Of course I know that one.

That's not my bag, baby.

It's not my bag, baby.

Okay, so yeah, no.

Yeah, this is uncomfortable.

Uncomfortable.

You can't shoot, you can't

make free throw, win game.

Yep.

And you know, it's more fun when you win.

Everything in life is

way more fun when you win.

Winning.

Wow, you took us deep on that one.

Wow.

Right, and I don't

know anything about it.

Yeah.

I'm so behind the eight ball.

That's the one.

I think some of that was to make sure I

wasn't the crazy one.

Like I said, it's your date night topics.

It's interesting.

We're chewing on it.

Chewing on it.

But what I was not chewing on was food.

Oh, that was a great transition.

I love the high, I love a good high five.

You should probably work one in like

every couple of episodes.

We should.

It tastes so good in my mouth.

And I was dreaming about eating.

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Like your beautiful blue eyes.

Yeah, my beautiful blue eyes.

And I mean, I am this

doppelganger, basically.

You're this doppelganger.

Coincidence?

Yeah.

I think not.

You just smell so good.

He beats you by an hour.

Yes, I know he's lying about this.

You're excited for it.

I am, yeah.

That's a little masochistic, but OK.

I mean, question mark?

Question mark.

For the next three years.

Yeah, so I'm--

Not the world I grew up in.

I mean, is that just a Texas

thing, or is that everywhere?

Obviously.

We performed at the Crandall Offrey.

I mean, it was so bad for them.

You go out on a loss.

That's heartbreaking to me.

As long as you did your best.

Yes.

And if that's last place, that's great.

I was like, that girl will

lie, cheat, and steal to win.

But that's when that competitive nature

is on your shoulders

and yours alone.

I mean, my palms were sweaty.

I was so nervous for her.

And she was like, I

don't think that goes away.

There's a weight.

Heavy as the crown.

Yeah, the pastor says this.

There's no hurt like kid hurt.

Some things have to be learned in the

school of hard knocks.

We did kudos to the

listener out there who knows what--

That bad, but we just don't

know what to do with downtime.

I don't know how to relax.

They're forcing me to go outside.

That's where it's like,

I'm just feeling as a parent.

I need to let you get over

your bad mood by yourself.

Your knee is healing.

It's healing.

You're at 77 degrees.

How old am I?

OK, so for 30 years.

You're 30?

Well, sooner than later,

you'll be able to drive

and you can finish your own--

That work, kind of?

Not really.

Working really hard on the toy.

That was really bad.

Got to come up.

We're trying so hard for

this terrible ending every time.

Podcasts.

But you should finish it yourself.

That's it.

That's a wrap.

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