Lunch with the Clydesdale - Are GLP-1's CrossFit's New Enemy?

Every day we take a breath from our busy work day to get a break and hang out with friends and talk about the world of Sports, Entertainment and specifically CrossFit.  Today we discuss my Beloved Chicago Bears taking one on the chin, Alex Gazan takes a step back from TYR Wodapalooza So Cal, who should be her replacement?  Has CrossFit found its new enemy in GLP-1's?

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what is up everybody welcome

to lunch with the

Clydesdale it is a somber

day in the Schweitzer

household as my beloved

Chicago Bears after a big

lead in the second half

couldn't hold it in the

fourth quarter and let the

Vikings come back and win the game and

You know what the worst part of it is, too,

as I'm getting older?

I had to stay up.

I had to stay up until

eleven thirty last night to

watch my team lose,

to watch my team lose.

So not only do they lose,

but now I'm getting less sleep.

Now I've got to get up for work.

I got to do the whole thing.

And it just adds like salt to the wound.

Like, really?

Really?

Really?

And they look so good in the first half.

So good in the, well, first quarter,

really.

And then we were down that

our top three defensive

players were all hurt last night.

And by the fourth quarter,

you could just tell that

they were exhausted.

The defense was exhausted.

The Vikings made adjustments.

And the Bears couldn't

counteract that at all.

Yeah, Denise.

Dinner time is five p.m.

Bedtime, eight thirty in our household.

Yeah, I normally make it to ten.

Ten is kind of my.

Is my time, but.

Yeah, eleven thirty is rough.

Eleven thirty is rough,

especially when I stayed up

for that Bill's Ravens game

on Sunday night.

Ken, Ken, Ken.

I'm not making excuses.

I'm just saying that that's a fact.

They still should have tried

to win the game.

They had it in hand,

and the Vikings made the adjustments.

Kevin O'Connell's a great coach.

Brian Flores is a great defensive coach.

They made adjustments.

The Bears weren't as quick to adjust,

so...

Caleb looked really good

against a pretty great defense.

My Vikes hung on, though.

My only problem with the

Bears offense is I know

Caleb was inconsistent,

but it's the false start penalties.

It's been a problem all offseason,

all training camp.

They've been working on it, pounding it,

pounding it, and bam,

four false start penalties.

We're going on two guys.

Don't move until I say two.

It's crazy.

Anyway,

I think that there is something to

build on there for the Bears.

I think we will be better by

the end of the year.

But I think it's going to be

too late in this division.

too late um this division's

too good with the Packers

the Vikings and the Lions

it's going to be it's going

to be a tough road to hoe

uh no matter how good they

get to um pre-snap

penalties are killers yes

four false starts at home not great uh

Ken Walters,

I will say we did finally get a bad call.

That interference call

wasn't interference and

came and seemed to change dramatically.

The game seemed to change

dramatically at that point.

That holding call was not holding either.

When you pancake a guy that's not holding,

that's dominating.

But I'm not, listen,

every game you can say

something about the refs,

just like you can say

something about the judging

in every CrossFit event.

um so I don't I try not to

blame anything on the

referees or the judges or

anything like that it just

is what it is you have to

deal with it so yeah eric

you're dead on dj moore was

wide open caleb missed him

yeah caleb pushed

You could tell he was

pushing second quarter and

on because all of his balls

were going along.

So he was pushing and

forcing the ball too much.

You Saints fans.

I got to ask you,

this has nothing to do with

playing football.

Those yellow jerseys they

wore on Sunday hurt my eyes.

Am I the only one that

thought that if they are

going to wear those jerseys

all year round?

Oh, good Lord, please.

Someone, someone put them away.

They were God awful.

Oh,

Caleb reminds me a lot of

Lamar when he was younger.

If he turns out like Lamar, then woo-hoo,

I will take that.

What were those unis?

Like Timo, Aaron, Brooks, Saints unis.

Oh, they were so bad.

So bad.

Whoever thought that yellow,

because I thought they were

supposed to be gold.

Their team colors are black

and gold with a very deep gold.

That yellow was awful.

Okay.

Love the black helmet.

I do like the black helmets.

I do.

I'll give you that.

Caleb looked good on the

first ten plays there.

Scripted and practiced and walked through.

But beyond that,

he was like seventeen of thirty.

Yeah.

He was only about fifty

percent the rest of the game.

And I can't afford gold tariffs.

That must be it.

The jerseys are now just an

ugly yellow because we

can't get the gold through the tariffs.

completely disagree joseph

williams is going to be the

starter he's getting better

and better he has too many

special qualities to give

up on him danny dimes look

good I'll give you that

cross fat he looked really

good I actually picked him

up on my fantasy league um

got rid of tua as my backup

and picked up danny dimes so

If your defense can't stop J.J.

McCarthy, you deserve to lose.

If you watch that game in

the fourth quarter, J.J.

McCarthy put balls into

places that only top-tier

quarterbacks can put balls.

He looked good.

I hate to say that, but he looked good.

All right, guys.

that's the bears game we

will move move on yes mark

that was jj mccarthy's

first start he was out

injured all last year just

notice the strong like

moose t there she's at our

gym I love freya freya's

one of my favorite people in the world um

had her on the show a couple

times I've chatted with her

at waterpalooza um she's

she's awesome where are you

at uh five a.m squat club

is she back in canada I

don't even I haven't

followed up with her much

in the last uh twelve

months so curious where she's at

Ottawa.

Okay, cool.

Okay, so there we go.

In CrossFit news,

I don't know if you guys saw,

but it was announced

yesterday by

Tierwaterpalooza that Alex

Kazan will not participate

in the SoCal event,

the team competition North

America versus the world.

And so they actually

yesterday put out a poll.

Who do you want to see?

The top vote getters were

Olivia Kerstetter, Ariel Loewen,

Brooke Wells and Emily Rolfe.

And they then decided to go

with Olivia Kerstetter.

So Olivia Kerstetter will be

filling in for Alex Kazan

at Tierwater Palooza SoCal.

Probably actually improves the team,

which is hard to say

because Alex is so phenomenal.

But the one thing that...

The North American team did

not have was top end

strength for the lifts.

She is going if if they

don't put her in one of the

lifts with the either Isabel or Grace.

I mean,

she'll crush whatever she's in in those.

Before it was kind of a

foregone conclusion that

Tia would win whatever she was in.

You could put Olivia against

her head to head.

Olivia can beat Tia in the lifts.

So it's going to be

interesting to see how the

coaches play this.

It actually adds, I think,

more intrigue to the event.

So yeah,

I think this actually adds more interest,

especially in those crazy things.

So there it is.

And I love Alex Kazan.

I think she's going to be

one of the best female

athletes in the space soon.

But I just think because of

what Olivia's strengths are,

it makes this competition

more interesting.

She probably knows how to

pew-pew based on Heppner.

She might.

Just where she grew up, I mean,

that's common.

And I'm sure she shot a gun once.

If she's been training with Hefner,

I'm sure she shot a gun and

that is one of the events as well.

Uh, Ryan Aldrich.

Yeah.

Olivia versus Tia and the

lift would be fire.

It would, I think,

especially if they do grace or Isabel,

which I'm assuming you

would have cursed or do

Isabel because her snatch

is so fast at cycling.

She would,

I think she would kill whoever

she was put up against.

Jacob has a range on his land.

I know he does.

And so I'm sure she has shot something.

Now it's just how similar to

a real gun is the ERG gun.

We'll see.

Denise,

I just want Alex to be a hundred

percent before she goes

back to competing.

Completely agree.

Completely agree.

CrossFit,

I do wish Alex would just write

off the year and focus on next season.

I don't disagree with you.

I think that's probably a smart move.

But as a competitor,

I kind of get what they're doing.

Maybe she needs that hope of

the possibility while training right now.

But... And she probably

wants that guaranteed money of the...

WFP next year and she has a

five hundred points she

doesn't need a whole lot

more in the next one if she

can just have a decent

finish she will probably

finish with a tour card and

guaranteed money and so I

having that to fund your

season isn't a bad thing

either the laser guns

easier there's no recoil I

know they had it at the age

group games for people to try out

I believe.

Because Carolyn said she

tried it and was terrible at it.

So, yeah,

I think they had it there to try out.

They need to replace Felner.

I'm not saying they need to

replace Vellner,

but I think it's a crime

that James Sprague is not on the team.

But I've talked about that enough.

It's their invitational type thing.

They get to invite whoever they want.

if a WFP athlete misses an event,

do they get docked money?

So my understanding is their

contract is that if they miss an event,

so there were three events

this year and say, just for easy math,

you were,

you were paid three thousand

dollars for the season and

you have three events and

one of those three events

you didn't attend,

one thousand dollars would

be pulled from your guarantee.

So then the most you could

make would be two thousand dollars.

So that's how I understand it.

It is based on percentages.

So equal percentages for each event.

And then that percentage is

taken out of your annual salary.

If you do not like Haley

Adams would get no money at this point.

If she shows up to Copenhagen,

she would get one third of

what she was guaranteed.

um then he said yeah it was

there I never got a chance

to try it uh cindy uh

denise's training partner

is competing at socal in

the fifty plus she didn't

get a chance to try the air

gun either yeah but it was

there it was there for

everybody to try so so cool with that

Does the money they don't

pay out go to a prize cap

or Will's vacation fund?

I think it goes to Will's vacation fund.

I think the reality is that

it actually goes back just

to the owners in their pot

of money to move forward

with the league itself.

And nothing,

really nothing more than that.

Are they employees or contractors of WFP?

I think they are contractors.

I don't think they're a

full-time employee.

They're just contracted in.

I don't think we will ever

know the answer to that question, Bubba.

But I'm betting it's more than...

I think it is.

So there is that.

I think,

but I do think that makes SoCal

much more interesting now.

So I'm excited about that.

All right.

next thing I want to talk

about and I don't have a

ton of time today so I have

to be at a one o'clock

meeting and that is that uh

I've said all along that I

love the new crossfit

campaign like um what what

what's the it's f the

solution f the we are the

cure um whatever it is and

I've always said that I

like that marketing campaign if they have

The thing that we're all

going to unite and fight against.

And what I think it is now, yes,

F the quick fix, we are the cure.

And what they're actually

fighting against and what

they're trying to unify

behind is the GLP-I's.

I just watched the CrossFit

podcast this morning with Denise Thomas,

Jocelyn Riley, Joe Alexander,

and Tom McCoy talking about

the GLP-I's and the

epidemic that it has become.

And what I think is they're

trying to talk about...

that there are medical

reasons for the GLP ones,

but it is being abused and

people are being left

abandoned after being given it.

Essentially what they,

they said in this thing is

doctors are prescribing it

and eventually insurance

companies are withdrawing

their commitment to pay for it.

And then it's leaving people

with this solution that they had.

and no way to pay for it.

And in addition to that,

there is side effects to it

that people aren't realizing.

Because not only does it promote fat loss,

but it promotes muscle loss

and bone density loss.

And when you're losing those two things,

The bone density piece,

we all know we don't want

to grow older with brittle bones.

And then when you lose the muscle mass,

it actually slows down your metabolism.

We all know we're supposed

to have so much protein

intake and we want to

retain as much muscle as

possible because that

muscle keeps the metabolism

fired up and moving.

And so the side effect is

that because of the muscle loss,

when you go off of the GLP-I,

you actually gain the

weight faster than you did

before because you don't

have the muscle mass to

burn the calories.

So...

I thought they were very fair.

And it's probably one of the

best CrossFit podcasts I've seen.

They went live with it.

They took questions.

It was very good.

And they were very careful to say, like,

there are reasons why

people are prescribed this.

But they need to learn the

tools and have the community around them

If they're going to go down this road,

they need to learn how to

do things the right way,

not just rely on the

medicine to get them where

they want to go.

And this really hits home for me.

Like I have struggled with

weight loss my entire life.

I grew up as a swimmer

swimming five to six hours a day.

I could eat whatever I wanted.

I didn't really understand

the nutritional thing as I

was growing up.

I was just trying to get

calories in because I was

burning so many in a day.

And then you come off of

that and you don't have any

of the tools with you.

And so over the rest of my life,

I've struggled trying to

figure out that plan.

And it's, so I feel for them.

I see that I,

just like a fringe athlete

looking at anabolic

steroids or human growth

hormone is a way to get

them over the top.

As an overweight person,

it is very tempting to look

at this shot that can help

me get back to where I want to be

but knowing that it's not

the right thing to do.

So it's a constant struggle.

And if I,

who have this CrossFit background,

lost a lot of weight through CrossFit,

through nutrition, through all of that,

can see this temptation and

feel this temptation,

what is going through the

minds of all these people

that don't know what the solution is?

It is...

it is becoming such an epidemic.

And I think that if CrossFit,

this is the fight, this is the new enemy.

I think that's heading in

the right direction.

I think we are finally

getting aligned behind that

one thing that can unite

the community and be the

one thing we fight against.

And

And I hope that it goes hand

in hand with that marketing

campaign to move forward

and fight the GLP-I's.

I know there's a lot of comments here.

Claire,

also the conversation posted today

between Jocelyn and Dr.

Fung had really insightful perspective.

That is my next watch.

So I'm going to watch that

tonight and be ready to

talk about that tomorrow.

Serena was paid to GOP one.

Do we know if she actually took it?

She says she has come out

and said she takes it.

The crazy thing about this

is her husband sits on the

board of row and row is the

company she's taking the GLP one from.

Um,

Trish Bucci, CrossFit, F the quick fix.

Serena is in a GOP One commercial.

They say it's a quick fix.

That's not just a coincidence, right?

I don't think it is a coincidence at all.

Lito,

I don't think they're making them the

enemy, though, nor that they should.

As, like you said,

they can be a lifeline for

a lot of people.

Right, right.

The enemy is the abuse of it, Lito.

The enemy is the abuse of this,

that there are millions of

people just given this as

the answer with no tools,

no way to handle it,

and no easy way to come off of it.

I was shocked by the sleep

apnea ad for them last

night on Monday Night Football.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well,

and they go into this on this podcast

about how it's it's just

the beginning for the

pharmaceutical company

because they know that it

contributes to muscle loss

and to bone density issues.

They're already working on

pharmaceuticals to combat

that to package with the GLP ones.

So you take the GLP one,

you lose the muscle,

you lose the bone density,

and then you have to take

another pill to get that back.

or to get the building of that back.

It is a vicious cycle.

That is what the

pharmaceutical companies do.

They not only look for the answer,

they look for the answer to

the side effects that come

from the first answer so

that it's just one shot or

pill after another, after another,

after another.

Another crazy thing about

the GLP ones is that you

need to take them for the

rest of your life.

Once you stop your health

deteriorates and you're

worse off than before you started.

Right.

And they were saying that,

and then the health

insurances stop paying for it.

So they're leaving people in the lurch.

Elise Bone or Bon,

you have said it a few

times and it is key.

The medication is just a tool.

Along with the tool,

there needs to be education

around diet and exercise.

Yeah, I think this is key, Elise.

If you make the lifestyle

changes along with it,

Now, Dr. Tom McCoy,

who actually was my doctor

when I was with Wild Health,

he's a great dude.

He is a CrossFit MD L-I,

and I'm glad they're using

him in these things because

in our one-on-one

consultations and the

weight issues I was facing,

he was very much about the

lifestyle changes that needed to happen.

Um,

so I've experienced his medical

practice firsthand and I

trust him when he, when he speaks.

And that is what he is saying.

He's saying that once you take a GLP one,

You already, before you take that,

the amount of protein you

need to get in in a day is

very hard to do.

We struggle to get people to

have that much protein intake in a day.

The minute you take a GLP-I,

it's at least two hundred

grams of protein a day.

And just imagine how

difficult it would be to

have that much protein

intake and how much of a

concerted effort that would

take to get there.

It is insanity.

But those are the lifestyle

changes that you need to

seek out if you are going

to go down this road.

The other thing that I

thought was very important

and kind of speaks to what

Elise said is that it's not

about judgment.

It's about having a way to

support people who need

this as a medical tool.

as a medical solution.

Jocelyn Riley, who owns an affiliate,

says she wants to have a

class specifically designed

to help people who have had

to go on GLP-I's and to

cater the classes and the

nutrition that they learn

to that specific thing.

But again,

not everybody should be going

down this path, but those that have,

there are answers and there

are solutions to

surrounding yourself with

the right community and the

right lifestyle choices.

Do you think we need more

meds now because of the

crap food companies make?

I think we need more

supplementation because of

the crap food companies make.

And that gets to be a vicious cycle too.

Like what are the good supplements?

What are the ones that are actually pure?

What are the ones that

actually make sense?

The kid that's working a

high school job at GNC

probably doesn't have those answers,

right?

Um, uh, Jeff,

my company dropped coverage

for the drugs because of

one office and a doctor

with a loose script pad.

Yeah.

The state of Ohio dropped

coverage for GLP ones too,

unless you meet their

requirements of a diabetic.

Um,

and now that's the only way they'll

even pay for it at all.

And that's still an iffy proposition.

Stop buying and eating the crap food.

One thing I learned when I

went fully into research,

when I lost my two hundred

and fifty pounds, is that as a society,

even the good food is being picked early.

It's they try to age it on a shelf.

It doesn't have the

nutrients it used to have.

We have really screwed up

our food system in this country.

Five a.m.

squat club.

I moved to the country and

raised sheep and cattle

because the food system is effed.

Shanna,

the problem is the body has evolved

over thousands of years to

be moving and eating whole foods,

not life hack drug.

We'll ever not have bad side effects.

The side effects take years.

This reminds me of bariatric surgery,

twenty years ago.

Yeah, whenever as someone like, honestly,

guys,

I struggle with this every single day.

I've not done bariatrics,

I've not done GLP ones,

but I struggle every single

day with this fight.

When people have answers,

you're looking for answers,

you're looking for ways to

find a way out and you look

into these things.

And thank God I've had the

willpower in that direction

to not go down those paths.

But you're talking to people

that don't have a ton of

willpower to begin with.

And then you're giving them

extra temptations on a

solution to the lack of

willpower by advertising to

their lack of willpower.

It's a vicious, vicious cycle.

We have engineered ourselves into illness.

That's very well said.

More people requires more produced foods,

sadly.

TRT is easier than nutrition and sleep,

and it works with bad sleep.

There's shortcuts everywhere.

It's not just about weight loss.

It's, you know, the TRT thing is big.

There are tons of peptides

out there for a variety of reasons.

It's crazy.

Why do you deem it as a temptation?

That language is very specific.

I'm just giving you my thoughts as an,

as a person who has

struggled with weight loss

my entire life.

And that is that food is tempting.

The solutions are tempting.

Every day is a fight over

these things that are put

in front of you as either a

food that you shouldn't eat

or a solution to get over

the food that you shouldn't eat.

And what I'm saying is a

person that is already

overweight has an addictive

personality and they face

temptation every day.

the way the ad campaigns are

for the GLP ones is they

are targeting the people

that have those addictions

and have those temptations

in front of them with a temptation of,

Hey,

we can fix the solution and you don't

have to put any work into it.

And when Serena Williams comes on and says,

this is the new health system,

like that's crazy talk.

I mean,

thank God I found a CrossFit gym

years ago that taught me

the bottom part of the

pyramid and that I have

some knowledge behind me

and I don't just dive into these things.

But there's millions of

people that don't have that education.

Having community when you

are trying to make healthy

changes is crucial.

When I started taking care of my body,

I actually lost friends.

But CrossFit helped me

connect with people who can

help motivate.

Amen, sister.

I remember I first started CrossFit.

You would go to the parties

with the CrossFit friends,

and the food there were

good food choices.

They weren't processed foods.

You all ate the same.

It made getting through

those initial steps of weight loss much,

much easier.

It's the addiction we are

forced to microdose for health.

What is more accurate,

CrossFit is the cure or

CrossFit is a cure?

Probably the latter.

but how many other places

offer a community

environment to love on you in the,

in the tough times and the

way to move your body in a

way that's healthy and good

for it and surround you

with people that can teach

you the base of the pyramid,

which is proper nutrition.

It may be a cure, but it's

one of the limited number of

cures out there.

CrossFit is a tool just like medication.

Yeah, this is great.

CrossFat.

Medicine is discovering the

power of direct-to-consumer,

and that should scare folks.

Yeah,

there's only two countries in the

world that allow direct

marketing of

pharmaceuticals to the general public,

and we are one of them.

Jeff Mako telling someone

who is morbidly obese to

just stop eating and start

walking is like telling

someone who is clinically

depressed to just go

outside and touch grass and be happy.

Scott,

not all CrossFit gyms are supportive

as you're describing.

I'm sure.

Just like anything in this world,

there are good and bad.

My experiences at CrossFit gyms,

at the two that I've been a member of,

have been amazing.

The community was amazing.

The support was amazing.

So I can only go by what I experienced,

but I have dropped into

gyms where I didn't see the

same care that I got at my home gyms.

And I've dropped into other

gyms where I got the same

care and maybe even more

than I got at my home gyms.

So I know it varies.

Before I was in this current position,

I traveled a lot throughout the Midwest.

I dropped into gyms all the time.

And I would say eighty

percent of them were freaking awesome.

But there were twenty

percent that were pretty bad.

And so I know that it's not

always the answer.

There are no absolutes in the world.

Yeah.

John George really messed

that her husband sits on a

board of the pharma company.

What a joke.

I didn't know that until I

watched this podcast.

Jeff, you can say that about just gyms,

but HQ pushing this message helps.

I visited a gym that had a

QR code for game day men's health.

And Jeff understands.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, you can say that about all gyms.

They're good and bad all around the world.

But I would say that the hit

rate on good CrossFit gyms

has been pretty high for me.

And I've dropped into a lot

of gyms in my time.

CrossFit gym pushing TRT was crazy.

That is crazy.

Yeah.

Um, every day is an opportunity.

Have you looked into Serena's full story?

I keep seeing people speak on her,

but fail to mention everything else.

Um, I haven't looked into it fully.

I was a fan of hers.

Uh, when she played tennis,

she's one of the greatest

female athletes I've ever seen in my,

in my fifty five years.

Um,

but I'm not here to attack her for

doing what she's doing.

If, if it's medically needed for her, um,

then then that's okay I'm

not here saying that you

shouldn't do these I'm

saying that you do need to

learn the proper tools and

be surrounded by the right

community if you're going

to go down this road road

and it is the thing that

you need to get to where you're going

It's hard to process because

she was the face of this is

a functional body.

Right.

Serena never looked... She

was the person that was

okay to have a lot of

muscle and to have the body

that could perform...

And to see her shrink down

to what she is is really hard to watch.

And I think that's why it's

impacting people's opinions so much.

Jake, every time I hear the G.I.

Joe type saying it's just a

lack of willpower as if

it's something people can just decide,

I shudder.

Must be nice to be perfect, eh?

Well,

and also you have to factor in

there's some doctors saying do this.

They're telling their patients to do this.

My parents' generation,

if the doctor told you to do something,

you did it.

You didn't question it.

Now,

some of us have learned that over time

that maybe that's not the

right answer or that you

need to find a different

medical professional.

But that's the way it is for

a lot of people in this world.

So Chris Beesterfield,

question everything.

I think that's what we've learned,

that because of the way

things are done in this

country now with

direct-to-consumer

marketing of pharmaceuticals,

things like that,

that we do need to question everything.

We do need to verify.

We do need to check.

Elise is banging that home.

I just think that some

generations haven't learned

that yet and are just being

given these drugs with no

tools and no way out.

Western doctors are trained

to treat symptoms and not

look for the underlying

causes and treat those instead.

I've got a great story for that,

a personal story,

but I'm going to have to

get to it tomorrow.

or Thursday because

tomorrow's Cajun Day with Corey.

But thank you all for this

great discussion.

I think this is something we

need to talk about moving

forward a little bit more.

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