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What's the matter with you?
Are you feeling guilty?
I'm not. Stop it.
You act like you hate me sometimes.
I'm confused. Please talk to me.
Go away, damn bitch.
Everything is ready. My darling.
Do not be afraid. So we'll be together again.
This sandwich tastes as dry as hell.
Hello, and welcome to hello, this Is the Doom Show. I am Richard.
Folks, put down your crucifixion,
put down your prayer books and pick up your autograph
book because Gary Hill is here. Hello,
Gary. Hello, I'm on the Doom Show.
As the theme music goes on the promo,
you know. Or no, hello, this is the Doom Show. I'm sorry, you know.
Hello, hello, this is the Doom Show.
I'm a terrible singer. Also have alcohol in me. So that's
when you get good karaoke. Karaoke is lit then,
people. Okay, I'll dig out the old theme song.
Get it out of the mothballs. Speaking of big balls,
we got the big balls of Damiano
Damiani with Amityville 2,
the possession from 1982. So Gary picked
this one. I hadn't seen this in,
like, 20 years. It's been so long and
holy.
I said, richard could pick something, you know, exponentially more sleazy,
I'm sure. But, you know, when I pick some sleaze that people know that I
just introduced to, probably about maybe four months
ago, I took the plunge into this movie. So I said, okay, let's talk about,
you know, nice. We've been on a bit of a satanic
tear on this show lately. Mark and I talked about Demon
Witch Child from Spain. Dirk and I talked
about The Antichrist from 1974. And now we're
getting to Amityville 2. I found a
wonderful TV spot for the movie. I'm going to play it right here.
Get your appetite wet for your
siblings. Let's do this.
The night of February 5, 1976.
George and Kathleen L. And their three children fled their home
in Amityville, New York, and never returned.
For them, the horror was over.
But how did it really begin?
What happened in the world's most famous haunted house long
before the Lutz family ever moved in?
What was the original evil that possessed all
who came to live in it?
I'm scared.
The end of the Amityville horror was just the beginning.
Now, Amityville 2, the possession.
Coming this fall from Film Way's Pictures.
I found the very interesting
VHS tape, the Embassy Home Entertainment VHS tape.
And I've got the plot from the back of it. It goes a little something
like this. A Framework for fright.
With no room for the timid, the mystery of Amityville continues.
In this suspenseful tale of the supernatural,
Amityville 2 awakens your wildest fears.
When a dream house becomes a nightmare,
one lone family wages a life and death battle against
the bizarre and terrifying demons that have come to
possess not just their home, but their very lives.
It's homemade horror all the way. Stars Burt
Young and rutania alda.
Color 110 minutes.
So folks, we're going to spoil the beats of this movie, not the
entire movie. And also there's a. You know you're
going to want to watch this anyway even if we spoil it. As I said,
directed by Damiano Damiani,
an Italian person. And I love when
Italian filmmakers go to America and
Mexico to make a film. Don't know how that works.
Doubly cultured there. It's awesome man.
It's a triple threat. Don't mix the gravy, you know, with the
salsa there. Ate the same thing. That's right, it's that sauce. This is
written by Tommy Lee Wallace of Frickin Halloween
2 fame. And also someone named Hans Holzer
is an Austrian. So throw a little Austria into the international
mix. This guy would go on to write all of the Amityville
movies? Well, no, not all of them but he'd go on to write Amityville
Curse. Oh, it's the novel. Oh wow.
Anyway, this also had some script doctoring by Dardano
Sacchetti. Holy crap. Like let's
just get to every Italian horror movie guy,
just writer of Things like Demons,
1990, the Bronx Warriors. Holy crap.
Love it. As for cast, we've got James
Olsen from Andromeda Strain playing Father Adamski.
We got Burt Young. Oh my God.
You know Burt young has like 168 credits on
IMDb and I don't remember seeing him that often. So I
think I messed up. I haven't been watching enough. Burt Young, six of
them Iraqi and one of them is back to school. So there's that, you know,
there's like. Random other shit where he
plays a hothead, God bless him. He plays Anthony Montelli.
The patriarch of his family is moving into this house. His wife,
which he married way, way above his station. He married
the wild eyed Ratania Alda.
She's Dolores Montelli. I love
Rutania Alda from Girls Night out which was the
same year as this. We've got Jack Magner,
which I love that name as the sun.
The, the, the gun toten son of a sunny.
This Guy did nothing. He did like two things and then bailed.
His. This was his finest hour. Or maybe as he
played young servicemen in Firestarter. Good for him. Next up
is Diane Franklin, who plays Patricia Montelli.
Diane Franklin is the reason why there's more trivia
than we can ever talk about in one episode. She loves
to talk about this movie. She. She's in television.
Gary's favorites. Oh man. You know my
favorite Diane Franklin role? I love that movie.
It's been so long. She's also in Rough Dead and the
Last American Virgin, which I was so shocked when I found out that was
a remake of the Lemon Popsicle from those,
those Golden Globus boys. And then in a glorified
cameo, we got Andrew Prine.
Like, I love Andrew Prine. He plays Father Tom.
He's Father Adamski's buddy. Has almost nothing
to do in this movie. He was in
the Eliminators, which I love very much. And he was in
the Evil from 1978, which I highly recommend,
speaking of Satan. And just one more person
here that I want to talk about. We got Leonard Cimino,
who plays the chancellor. I was mistaking him for some other
position in the church. 62 credits or. I love this guy.
He was in Dune, Monster Squad and Waterworld.
Boom. V. The TV show,
miniseries. God, I haven't thought of that ever.
I enjoy his work too. Not German, by the way. Paige does that. You know,
I like. I like how IMDb calls him a veteran,
little old man, Italian character actor. I'm sure he loved
that. So the movie starts. We got some la la la la
la opening credits. This music is by Lilo Shifrin,
who, like one of those guys who's really,
really solid, but he had. He doesn't like
stick in my brain. I don't like, I don't remember any of the music
from this movie. Like, I know it was good, but it
doesn't stick out. I'm getting weird in my old age where if there's no
like obvious synthesizer on the soundtrack, like if
it's not like played at full volume, I don't notice it. So you gotta,
gotta be flashy for me. Lilo. After these la la la
opening credits, the Montelli's, and within 30
seconds meeting them, the daughter's like,
daddy's such a. Creep.
Because he's a dick instantly. I love it.
Inside the house, while they're unpacking, mom turns
on the sink and blood shoots out. And Ratani Alda,
she laughs it off. When it turns to water,
it's like how Jesus turned water to wine. She's my
Jesus who turns blood to water when she laughs and she looks
completely insane.
Then we have a nice meet cute moment between Sunny and Patricia.
What is this about, Gary? Well, I imagine it seemed like they're
sleeping together in the same bedroom, the same attic bedroom where you see the.
The iconic Amityville horror windows sticking
out. Because. Because that's where the demons are people. Right in that
attic area. They have this moment where he's.
I forget the line. But he's telling her.
She's describing to him certain things about what? You.
You only like girls with big boobs and stuff like that. Now the film's called
Immunity with the possession. And you'll spoiler Sonny is the possessed.
But it seems like yo they're in love.
Like in a. In a non brother sister way,
way before the possession happens, you know, so it just. It's.
It's like setting things up. You know the beginning part where he pulls
up and Papa Matteli is like emasculating
his son. Right where you. Right when he's introduced, it's like. Yeah. And everyone
to like lay his sister in being not
possessed. Yeah, it just kind of like. It sets everything up there, basically. Yeah,
yeah. Their. Their chemistry, the two, those two actors.
The chemistry is way too good. You're like. And it's
only gonna get worse. No nails here over.
Is it great? Ah, it's all right.
I love it. You're getting heavy.
Hey, you used to hug me all the time. That was when you were lighter.
No, that's not. Because now you're old and snotty. Well, there is an.
What? You're not my type. Oh, you like them tall,
big boots? That is none of your business.
How about you? What's your type? I like them sensitive,
dark and about this high. You're ridiculous. No,
come on, let's get to know the house. So the
one thing I love about this movie is that it says it's the sequel.
And everyone and their grandmother went and saw the first Amityville.
The stuff gets. It's already set up. All the, all the spooky
house stuff is already set up. So we have the blood coming out of the
faucet. Now we have mom down in the basement.
And a worker comes down and accidentally discovers
a little secret panel in the basement. And he
points out, like, lady, you've got your very own excrement vault.
Not a lot of houses in this area have a poopy vault.
So, you know, wow, he's Getting covered in flies
everywhere. Nonchalant, horrific thing that would
cause me to get in the car and never come back. And just take the
loss on the house. She's menaced by
a spooky force. It's just completely crazy.
That night at dinner, instantly this family is so broken.
So we've seen some dysfunctionalness,
but now a mirror falls over and doesn't even break and
all hell breaks loose. Like everyone's yelling, everyone's arguing.
Dad is just such a fucking asshole. It's insane.
Not on his side, not on dad's side.
And then things get worse when
that night, there's some. Some knock knock games
and there's no one there. And there's some knock knock games,
there's no one there. And then it's
time for some art. Let's talk about arts and crafts. Gary, what happens in
the frickin with the brushes? Yeah. You know,
after, you know, Papa Bottelli busts
out the gun. That's for home defense. This giant fucking
shotgun rifle thing. I'm not a gun person,
but it is massive. It's massive.
But you know, he comes to kids bedroom and that the kids are described as
the father. That the brushes, that their paintbrushes have moved on their own and
have created this art to the wall. I think it says kill the page
that has like a dragon picture on the wall or something. And my
favorite thing about the movie is every time something happens that's unexplained,
like there's a part where dishes are being thrown everywhere. He just loses his mind
domestically. He just starts beating his family. I mean, this scene right
here, he's got the belt, he's beating the little ones, he's punching
the wife in the face. I don't endorse this, but he's just like
overly violent from possessed things. And this could be that
or. Or his, his control as an Italian.
Italian house father. Because she ain't getting no
divorce. This how this works. Italian people
that if you're Catholic, you're Italian, you don't get divorced. No matter
how much he beats you, it doesn't matter, you know. And he, he is getting
in this movie. Oh my God. It's. It's like
straight out of the Godfather. It's so insane.
The art is like. It's. I think it's supposed to be
a pig, but it looks like a dog or a demon.
And it says, dishonor thy father. Kill the pigs
or something like that. It's very, very. Kill the pigs
comes later. I'm Sorry. Yes, it's beautiful.
It's beautiful. So they call in a Father
Adamski because of course dad doesn't want to go to church.
Mom and the kids go to church without him. And, you know,
mom begs the priest to come by and bless the house.
And when he comes by just. Just to meet the fam,
he can't. Dad can't even control himself
for strangers. He totally smacks
one of the kids in front of a stranger and then, you know,
throws the priest out. There's this whole drama of
them going to church to get the priest
to come back. So while Sonny's alone, he's menaced
by an unseen force. Or as I wrote,
a phantom menace, if you please.
Gary, what's going on with Sunny's skin here when he starts
getting possessened?
I'm sure it was done on the budget, but I'd say that the
bladder effects of this movie are done very well. Because when
he's. He's getting all. Getting all possessed by. By whatever's roaming
around the house with a shotgun, you can see like his, like his,
his chest, you know, caving in and like his, his arms are
bubbling up. I. I put on my nose. It's like he's getting
Barbara Hershey, which. Have you seen the Entity before? It's. It's.
Oh, yeah, that's a bad analogy. But, you know, you're uncomfortable,
uncomfortable watching those scenes in the Entity. And I think I'm just
as uncomfortable, you know, without the vagina and the breasts,
you know, being molested. Yeah. Watching this kid getting taken by
this thing. It's very well done. Yeah, it's. It's like a showstopper.
Then the camera work too, is completely
nuts. Like they're pulling some Argento shit,
flipping and zipping around, getting upside down. And like,
it's only fitting that this was the same year as Tenebrae,
which has the same, like, crazy camera work going
on. This cinematographer is Franco D.
Giacomo, who I have seen several things
that he shot. Plot of Fear and excellent Giallo.
He also shot who Saw Her Die. And speaking of Argento,
Four Flies in Gray Velvet. So this guy knows his shit.
And yeah, this sequence fucking rocks.
When the family comes home, he's all like,
whatever. That was weird. I lost time. I don't even know what
time it is, what's going on? And then, Gary, we got the
most weird, messed up stuff in.
In this movie is Sunny hanging out with his sis.
And he says, pose for me. Pretend I'm
a famous photographer and you're a Famous model. And she
buys this hook, line, and sinker, and he's like,
take your. Take your nightgown off. And she does it. And I'm like, is this
a dream sequence? What am I witnessing here? Is this.
And then, yes, they go for it. And apparently, good for
Diane Franklin for fighting because she. They wanted her full
frontal nude, and she told them to go fuck themselves.
She said, I don't care about showing my breasts because I showed
them in Last American Virgin, but I'm not getting all
naked for you. So she let them film her from behind.
Then they. She let them shoot her from the front, but where
she wanted the camera to be. And I'm like, how badass
is it? This girl? This is like, how young was she
when this movie came out? Please, God, let her at least be 18.
When was she born when this came out or before this came out?
Okay, thank God she was. She was, like, 20 or 19 when this was being
filmed. Whoo. All right, so.
But she stood up to them and, like, told them to go fuck themselves.
And I'm like, that's badass. But, yeah,
I don't like the incest stuff in this movie. That's not.
It's not tenable. She was kind of all right with this whole situation until,
of course, he busts out, hey, look what I found in the laundry.
Then she's like, oh, now things are getting weird, you know? Yeah. God,
I. Thank you. I repressed that. I repressed him. Like, just, yo,
got your panties. Fucking crazy.
But, you know. And apparently this is a lot more explicit. Like, they did a
lot more. And the test audience said,
no, thank you. But I want to say Damiani
fought to keep all this in the movie because he wanted to make the audience
as uncomfortable as possible. And that's a
win. That's a win. Win, yes.
Goal achieved for sure, you know?
Oh, my God. So the priest comes and he blesses the
house. And I wrote, bless this mess,
this bloody mess, because as he's waving the
scepter wand thingy that flings the
holy water everywhere, it turns to blood and
flinging this blood all over the place. Now,
according to the trivia, if you watch the moment
when Mrs. Montelli starts screaming and
you advance it frame by frame, there's a subliminal
shot of two characters that aren't
in the movie that we see anywhere else looking weird,
like a lady with her hair blowing in the wind and a man standing behind
her. And I tried to play
it frame by frame, but I didn't see shit. So I
don't know. But you
know what she was really screaming about, don't you? What?
Got blooded hardwood floor. And her husband loses mind because he got blooded her
hardwood floor to come. Up and beat everybody. He's gonna beat the priest too.
Man, I, I hope that some rando person just made that trivia up
on IMDb to fool me, but I was, I was totally watching that scene and
like, like, like freaking 0.25 speed looking for
this like single shot. I don't know. I love it.
So yes, the blood magically disappears. And then
the priest, he's like, he's instantly convinced they need to
exercise this house. He's like, this shit's up. So he goes
to the chancellor and Chancellor's like, no,
we're not doing this. And then in Waltzes,
Andrew Prine. And I'm like, oh, here we go. This is, this guy's
going to be a big character. He's like his buddy.
And he's gonna be like the one who saves the day at the
end of the movie. He's gonna be in part three and four.
No, this no motherfucker just shows up and then
leaves and comes back later real quick. It's great. No idea.
I just found Andrew Prine's entrance just magnificent.
And then we have a birthday party. I wrote. It's awkward.
Beyond awkwardness. What happened to this birthday party,
Gary? Well, Sunny comes downstairs because
his little sister and brother are saying happy birthday to him. And you have
to add the look like a monkey outro to it because they're adorable
little kids. I decided they're adorable little American east
coast kids. And he's coming down like
he's fucking Eddie Haskell. He's not possessed. And hugging everybody.
He's hugging the little sister, he's hugging a little brother, you know, having a little
hahaha, you know, got the candle, trying to fool
me, yada, yada, yada. He's talking the mother and
then he gets to the sister. And then it
gets strange again because in front of the parents that the little brother,
little sister, he's just grabbing them buns like,
like nobody's business. And then again, oh my God,
he goes talk to dad. And dad has no problem with this. He's just,
he's, he's just smoking his cigar like, yep, business as
usual, you know. And what's crazy is that dad,
because he says, I love you, mom, and mom is so happy.
And then he walks up to dad. Dad's like.
And like they kind of like almost bump each
Other's elbows. That's about as much affection as they can show.
Is it firm like your mother's? Is it firm? Yeah.
I've been curious myself. I know how things work in this family.
But like, Sonny has never shown. Been able to show any
affection towards his father. So he's almost in tears just because
a moment almost happened between he and his dad. It's fucking
horrible. So sad. Oh,
my God. And yes, things get very awkward because
the brother and sister have had sex earlier and
she's curious. So while he's staying upstairs
hiding from his own birthday party with a bunch of a holes from
the neighborhood and high school kids, I guess,
she goes up to see him and he basically dumps her by
calling her a dirty or something like that. And I'm like,
now it's getting worse because now she feels bad. She tries to confess
to the priest, but she can't because she's so
ashamed and it's so horrible. It's because her brother broke up
with her. She's very upset by this. She feels very, very rejected. You know.
This family man. Bless this mess.
It is a big sin. Don't be afraid.
I went
all the way with my
friend. You must resist
this temptation.
One day, perhaps you'll meet someone,
marry, raise a family. Even if you love
him very much, you must resist. You do not love each other.
You don't love each other. Then this is.
This is only a sexual matter.
He does it just to
hurt. Well, to hurt who
hurt you? To hurt God.
My child. You shouldn't say that.
Now tell me everything from the beginning.
No.
Now the movie goes into hyperdrive
shortly after this, where Sonny is just transforming
into a monster. So these. These bladder effects we were talking about have
now, like, just turned him into a goblin of him,
of his former self. He's very hard to look at.
This makeup is awesome. And I don't know what
else these folks worked on that did this makeup.
But the same year as this, the Beast within
came out, which also had these
bladder effects in him, but, like, crazy.
Yeah, like his whole head, like got so really big.
Yeah. Like his round head becomes like a trapezoid
or some shit in that movie. Yeah. His face is very stretched
and he looks like, probably like very, very sweaty. It's.
It's done all very well, you know, so good.
All of a sudden it feels like you think
it's a dream. Because it's a dark and stormy night.
Sonny can't take it no more. The voices have been telling him to kill his
family. This whole time. And so he starts blowing his family
away. And you keep waiting for him to sit up screaming from a
nightmare, and you're like, okay, no. Is this happening? Are we doing this now
with an hour left in the movie? Like, what? And then the
next thing you know, the priest is waking up from a dream. So you
get this false hope that maybe it's not
really happening. You know, the little kids get killed, the sister gets
killed, dad gets killed. My favorite part of that sequence is because
the little brother's a little dick. Apparently he, like, sets up the sister to
get little sister killed next. Like, hey, look. Go look over there.
And then he stole the bedroom. Of course, you know, I mean, they all
die eventually. But he's like, hey, you go next.
You know, he had a fleeting instinct for
survival, but it got him nowhere. Poor kid. And of course,
all the windows have been nailed shut. This is not good. So the next morning,
the priest arrives with his buddy in tow, and there's cops
everywhere and all. Everybody's dead except for Sonny. Now we
get this whole thing where he's like, I don't remember. I don't
remember. The cops take him away, and we're now into the
Law and Order section of the film. What is going on with this Law and
Order? Well, you have what they have in many Italian
films, I think Stage fright has, like, three endings. This has the false
ending to where you think that, you know, once he kills the family,
that somebody's got, like, the cops or, like, the priest is going to walk in
on them, and that'll be like the showdown or like the end of the movie.
You don't know what's going to happen next, but instead you get like this whole.
That the brother was possessed. So we're gonna use that defense in court.
And I'm like, that just. That just sounds absurd, you know,
but it. But it gets more absurd there.
It's like a plot point this film doesn't need. Like. Like you can hack 10
minutes off this film and, like, make a different ending because you get
to the whole Law and Order. Something like, it kind of takes you out and.
And there's a Moses gun performance in there that's wasted. And that. That's. That's a
syndrome V, you know. Oh, yeah, that's right.
So you get two ways of. You get a waste of Moses Gunn, you get
a waste of Andrew Prine. That. That's. That's two no nos to me, you know?
Yeah. Moses gun was in Shaft,
Rollerball. Frickin. It was In a
ton of cool. Highway to Heaven. All right.
Oh my God. He was in Ninth Configuration. Holy shit.
Although what's his face? Ted Ross has the best
mustache in this movie. Ted Ross is another. Yes,
he does. Another black actor who. He was the lion in the Wiz.
Holy crap. That's amazing. So.
Yes, you're speaking my language now, Richard. See? Oh man. The Wiz
is one of the most shrill movies I've ever seen. Like it
made my hackles go up. I was so. That movie makes me fucking nervous.
It's so crazy with Stan Winston effects to the people,
you know. Oh man, here's your kids film.
But then again, I don't even know if kids were the intended audience.
It's crazy. It's like Returned.
It's like. It's like the Oz of practice. Returned Oz. Who do they make that
for? Somebody gets terrified. Apparently just the lady
take it off her heads and switching them out and stuff. And the Wheelers.
Oh, come on now. Yeah, yeah. I. I just
revisit. Speaking of frickin disturbing
kids films, just revisited the Watcher in the Woods. There you go.
And it has the deleted scenes with the alien creature which.
You have to find those deleted scenes, folks. That's incredible.
Incredible. I have a laserdisc copy of Something
Wicked this Way Comes Coming. So I'm excited about that.
Love that movie. I like the movie better than the book. The book's
okay. Book cannot end. Like, Ray Bradbury
had no idea how to stop writing that book. He was so in love with
it. The movie is just so much tighter.
Gotcha. Because Sonny's such a mess in
court, they're gonna give him electroshock therapy and
all this stuff. And the priest is like,
he needs to be exorcised. He gets a hard no
that he's not allowed to do it. So he concocts a scheme
with Moses gun to get him out of there.
So he sneaks him out to take him to the
house or to take him to the church to exorcise him.
But it all goes tits up because he can't get Sonny
inside the church. So it's a big chase scene back to the Amityville house
where the exorcism is going to happen.
Gary, tell me about this exorcism. It's anticlimactic,
put it that way. There'd be better ones than other Italian films. You know,
when I watch Exorcist 3, I watch Exorcist 3 in
the mindset of teenage me who bought the
tape at a mom pa VHS store
that was going out of business and I got Exorcist 3
for a dollar. And then I proceeded to watch Exorcist 3
like 18 or 19 times because I only had like six
movies to my name. And I always accepted
the tacked on exorcism part in that movie because
it's integrated so well. So let
me rephrase that. It's integrated much better than it is.
This film, this film, it's like, huh, we're doing this
now. But also the court scene, it's like we're
doing this now, you know? Yeah. Another deleted
moment that I've actually seen, what do you call it,
stills from, is when the priest is looking
for Sunny throughout the house in the basement. A bunch
of people come out of the shithole that's in
the frickin basement and you see some of those like ghostly figures
coming out. But in this different version that you
can see in some of the promotional materials, where there's
all these ghosts, like all these hands
reaching for the priest and reaching to grab him,
and he just holds up the cross, the crucifix, and like
wards off these spirits. And I don't know why that's not in the movie.
In the version I'm watching on my old DVD there,
those, those freaking ghosts aren't there. And I wish they were.
That's so cool. Yeah, that, that would have been helpful to,
to move things along because the other day they make a big deal about
this, the basement, and it's like cavernous. So I mean,
they filmed the basement very well. So all these stuff with the hands,
the ghosts and stuff, it would add a little something to this anticlimactic exorcism
scene. Yeah, yeah. And it's. Those are supposed to be all
the lost souls. You know, people have died in the house. They got stuck there.
There's a beautiful shot, and I forgot to mention,
where the priest sees the
sister, her ghost in the, in the window of the house,
looking very sad because she's trapped there and her brother.
Broke up with her the hard way. You know, she shot her with a shotgun.
So, you know. You never forget
your first. Yes. Yeah.
So of course Sunny starts looking even crazier.
His face starts splitting open and he's like,
he's trying, like the real Sunny is trying to break his way
out of this creature or something's happening.
It's all very grotesque, much like Reagan and
the Exorcist. And you know, insert the name of any
exorcist ripoff here. If your exorcist rip off is worth
a damn. Worth its weight in
hell. Damn. Then your makeup
on your possess c should look fucked
up. And it's hard to look at because that.
That's. They did a good job on Sunny's face here. I really enjoyed it.
Anyway, priest exercises successfully. He barters his own
soul and ends up he's the
one who's possessed. Andrew Prine is just there
to drag Sonny out and send him to jail where
he will spend the rest of his life. And yeah, we. The last
thing we see is the priest possessed. Yeah, that's. That's your
fade to black woman for sure. You know, and Sonny's
going to jail for killing his family. The law and order ending, you know?
Yep. Sonny,
if you can hear me, resist the
unclean spirit.
Will it to leave your body.
You've decided to do this on your own without the support of the
church. You are disobeying the church.
Now. You are alone. Adamski.
Flee evil spirit.
Depart from this servant of God.
No. So some
trivia. I don't want to get too carried away because unlike every
other movie we talk about on hello, this is the doom show, this has
a shit ton of trivia. I dropped a few of the little alternate version
things that were in here. They didn't film in the real house.
They filmed in a replica house that was built in New
Jersey. Who are the people that are
the experts on demonology that
are always portrayed in the movies now in the insidious movies? Not the insidious
in the conjuring movies? The Warrens. Yes,
I believe the Warrens were consultants on this film
as well, because then they wanted a paycheck. Makes sense.
You know, unsurprisingly,
Damiano Damiani spoke little to no English,
so he had a translator, bless his heart. Yeah.
One of my favorite devil endorsements is still who
was the guy that was the president of the church of Satan endorsed evil.
Evil speech. I was all over that, you know,
Anton lavey. There you go. He was also
on the devil's reign. So you had little
Johnny Travolta getting consulted into Scientology on the
set of that film, and then you had the lesser of that
evil, which was the church of Satan. Was there quality
tutelage there, you know. But when
all is said and done, like Johnny, maybe you should have gone for
Satan, you know, like, at least Satan will accept you for who
you are. Freaking Scientologists will beat the shit out of you. Both are fine
films, though. If you reason to watch evil speak, just think of Clint
Clint Howard soaring in the air with a broadsword. An army
of pigs. Okay. Come on. Oh man, I,
I remember when I finally started to appreciate him and
just love him and everything he does. And it was,
it was a back to back Ice Cream man and
Silent Night. Deadly Night four. Yes. Where he's,
he's so sexy in that movie. Just sitting in the
orgy with the dick nose on. That's his little Clint Howard right there.
You know.
Apparently Burt Young's father died during the filming
of this movie, which is very sad. Hopefully he had a better relationship
with his father than his character, you know,
has with his family. See anything
else? Ah, folks, go to IMDb. There's fucking
300,000 things of trivia in this. But want to talk about Dino
De Laurentiis real quick? He is probably one of the
more infamous Italian producers. He found quite
a lot of success getting productions going all
over the world, especially in America. Flash Gordon from
1980 is a big one for me. That's a big movie from my childhood.
He was executive producer on frickin army of Darkness.
Oh fuck. Maximum Overdrive. Raw deal.
Silver Bullet. I mean, I love Dino.
What a son of a bitch. You'd rather say a lot of things.
Kingkong 76 is a pretty good one too.
I have still only seen a little bit of that on cable. I've never seen
the whole thing. Oh man, I need to fix that. Yeah,
so in 1982, Conan the
Barbarian and Frickin Halloween
3. It's quite the resume for sure. Quite the resume.
So getting things back to even more Italian just because I'm nerding
out here. The production design on this movie was by a little guy
named. Well, he might have been a big guy, I'm not sure.
Pierre Luigi Basile or Basile.
He was a production designer on Fulci's Don't Torture a
Duckling and another shitty
Exorcist ripoff. I've been making a list of Exorcist ripoffs
lately for a little project I'm working on. And he
worked on Ring of Darkness, which I know this isn't
a video podcast, but Gary can see my face right now.
Yeah, it's fucking horrible and I can't wait to watch
it again. I'm so excited because like 10 or 15
years ago my brain hadn't been destroyed by movies
enough. Like I hadn't seen Nightmare Weekend and
I hadn't seen, you know, the Last Slumber Party,
you know, I hadn't seen like Sorority House Massacre three,
you know, movies that just wreck your whole taste.
So now I'm looking forward to going back to Ring of Darkness. It's probably going
to be great, I hope. But, Gary, I want to ask
you a question. How do you feel about amityville2
colon, the possession? Well,
it's much like the first one, you know, where you get a lot of cues.
You get the blood, you get the, you know, stuff moving around,
you know what's gonna happen pretty much. But you add that.
That Italian tinge to it, you know, with the incest
and the weirdness, and it gets real weird. So I
can appreciate, you know, them up in their game, if you will,
on this film, because I do enjoy the first one. It is a classic for
a reason. But this one's just a little bit better because it
for. For me, because it amps up everything.
Like, hey, I bet you think that, you know, a guy brandishing his
sister's panties and her feeling slightly uncomfortable is going to be in this movie,
but it is, man. And he's. He's like,
you know what? We're gonna have sex tomorrow too. You know,
it's just strange Italian tinge to
everything. And I love it. You know, I don't know, it's uncomfortable as hell,
but I. I love it, you know. Yeah, they. They definitely pull
out all the tricks in the book for this one. Like, all the
supernatural tomfoolery is on display.
It wastes no time getting started.
It's not subtle. And as I love to say,
there's no such thing as trying too hard. And this movie
is trying very, very hard to entertain and also disturb
wonderful things. I don't like the pacing,
as we talked about goes to. To hell.
It's like, I would love to take out all of the
arrest stuff. And if we had to keep that running time
just a little bit longer before Sunny kills everybody, just a
little bit more build up just so it explodes
with tension and then boom,
things happen. And he's being exercised instead of all the bullshit
of the courtroom. Forget the courtroom. I think they only wanted to do
that because of the books. I can't imagine any other reason for
doing that shit. Make it 95 minutes and put all the, you know,
the shit the base we talked about that we didn't see back in the movie
again, you know. I'm frustrated by the weird
restraint. Maybe they didn't think those shots looked good,
but the little slivers of moments
that are in the trailer that you can see of those ghosts
surrounding the priest, they're awesome. So I
Don't like the incest. But I. I seriously,
I would not take it out of this movie. It's just like you said,
it's too insane. It's just so crazy.
Yeah. Yeah. I would say just if you.
If you haven't gotten to this one yet, folks, go back
for it. Because I like the original. I know a lot of people
think it sucks. It's so funny how that movie was
the biggest thing to hit theaters. That was a
huge hit. And then ever since then,
people have just been hating on the original Amityville. I don't know.
One of the weak. One of the weaknesses for the Amityville
will, for me, is the big moment of. One of the big moments of peril
in the movie is when he loses the catering money. I'm like,
why is this a big moment of this movie? Yeah, you know?
Oh my God, I forgot. See, all I remember is spoiler.
Spoiler alert. He goes back for the dog. Like, yes.
That moment glosses over. Any problems I
have with that movie is that they go back for the fucking dog.
This is gonna ruin our reputation with this carry company forever and
ever, you know? Hey,
that should have been the new Amityville sequel. Like Amityville
6, the caterers, the sequels I've seen.
I remember seeing amityville3d when I was a kid
and I was. I remember being let down because the VHS
tape scared me so bad. There's a demon that's
coming out of the water, out of the weird glowing
water on the back of that tape, I think. And that freaked me out.
When I finally saw the movie, I. Was like, oh, it's a great cover
for 3D. The claw coming out of the house thing.
Yeah, I know. I like the
Amityville time travel movie. But then there's this whole thing
of I was having a conversation with somebody at Viper Video
and he's like, yeah, we're watching the Amityville movies. We're not. We didn't get very
far. And I was like, oh, man, I love the frickin Amityville movies. I started
talking about, you know, Amityville Dollhouse. He's like,
oh, no, no. We're watching all the direct to Tubi Amityville
horror movies. And I was like, oh, good luck.
I think that one producing team is making
all of these Amityville movies. If I'm not incorrect about this. He's new with this
new crop of, you know, Amityville, Karen and Amityville
Junkyard, Amityville, Poor house. I don't know what they're making now.
But Amityville backpack. Yeah,
that's a real thing that came out this year. Amityville backpack, you know, they made
a. Door the explorer movie. Amityville backpack and backpack
came alive. We just started like destroying alive, so it's already possessed.
Amityville backpack has like 25 producers
on it because they probably did a
GoFundMe where you could be a producer if you gave a certain amount of money.
So cute. Somebody gave money to that too. Come on now.
You know, art is art. We can't. Can't judge it.
So before I let you escape my excrement
vault in my basement, I always ask my co hosts
to talk about a recently seen and loved film.
It can be an old favorite or it can be something you just watch
for the first time. Gary, what do you got?
I have been watching a lot of new stuff. Like new, new stuff
I've been watching a lot of. Since we recently lost
Mr. Corman and then 98 years old, he'll live forever.
Yeah, yeah. But watching a lot of stuff of his produced
stuff that I and directed stuff that I haven't seen. It's like, like I
watched the Pendulum, which wasn't the best
thing I watched all week, you know, but I never really was attracted
to the post stuff, you know, he made because even
now I. I love visiting, being silly.
So I love, I love comedy terrors. I love stupid
shit. I love stupid shit like Dr. Goldfoot and
the girl Bombs, you know, it's really silly.
But yeah, I never watched like the serious stuff because it really was attracted.
I'll do it all watch. But recently I watched that and I watched
the, the Ronnie Howard car chase double double feature of
Eat my Dust and Grand Theft Auto. Oh,
nice. Both very fun in the exploitation genre.
He took that ball around with that, didn't he? The exploitation genre.
He made a bunch of them. I watched if you love Angie
Dickinson, I watched Big Bad Mama and she gets fully new in that movie.
So that's worth watching that we. That's nice.
Yeah, just put your bunch of corpsman stuff I haven't seen and it's been a
lot more hits than misses, so there's that and nothing really.
Do I have stuff to watch, but I have not watched it yet.
You know, before he passed away like two weeks ago, I watched Hollywood
Boulevard that he did and basically let
Joe Dante and Alan Arkish just make
this crazy ass movie. And it was really good.
It's got, of course it's got Mary Warnov, Paul Bartel Dick
Miller's in it. Awesome. It had a rape
joke that they doubled down on really hard.
And I was like, yowza.
Holy shit. It was. It was. It was a little. It was
a little rough, but the rest of the movie was really good.
It's weird. Sometimes you watch, like, older stuff. Like, I want to do, like,
this whole surprise floatation series of shows. So I watched a
film called the Sweet Ride, which is about bohemian surfers in
California. And one of his, played by Bob Denver, who was Gilligan from Gilligan's
island and was on Doby Gillis. And there's a whole thing,
a whole nom. Subplot, where it was to take place during the time where they're
really getting drafted, where he, like, goes to the office. It's like a gay
person to try to get out, you know?
Oh, no. You know, they were asking back in those days. Yeah, they were,
yeah, stuff like that. Because he might be uncomfortable now. But,
yeah, it was this thing back in those days. But the movie
that I watched, as recently seen and loved, is a little
movie, of course, from Italy called Alien
from the Deep. And this is from Antonio Margheriti.
So it's got cool miniatures,
and it's got this crazy alien ripoff like
them. So they wanted to rip off Alien, but they're like,
how do we do it different? So they made the
alien like 20ft tall in one scene.
So it's really funny. Charles Napier.
Charles Napier, isn't it? So he must
be. He must have been fucking confused. Like, what am
I doing here? Oh,
we need. We need Angry Lieutenant number one, Charles Napier.
You're the guy. Yeah. It's got Luciano Pagazzi
in his beardo phase. So he just looks like he just,
like, woke up, went to the bar, slammed a few drinks,
then got on set. Like, it's so fun. Love an
alien ripoff that's just so late to the game
because, of course, you know, the aliens was out. But this was like.
It's just pathetic that most of the alien we see is a
giant claw. And you'll see that on the poster. It's always this big
claw smashing through everything. That's the only, like, truth in
the poster. Is that claw coming for you so
bad? Yeah. I love Creature Feature. Keeps it real. I love
the giant claw for that reason, for, like, 1957, because the big
stupid marionette flying around the whole time, you know, and they
did that. I love. I love stuff like that. You can see the strings.
It's like, it's awesome. You know, is that the one looks. Like a big turkey?
I think so. Or like a big like vulture type big wigged
creature? Yeah, that's what. Yep. Yeah, yeah, they wanted
vulture and I see turkey. You know, a turkey
slash vulture. It's fine. Yeah, it works. Well, ducks are the horniest
bird, so I'm not surprised that we don't have like half vulture
ducks or whatever. So the possibility
of a half turkey vulture is. It's right there.
It's whichever animal gets hornier, we're gonna have it.
Well, that explains the New York Ripper and studies behavior. You get possessed by a
duck person, possibly the New York Ripper. I don't know. Yeah,
I love revisiting New York Ripper and it never. That, that duck shit never
gets better. I wouldn't take it out. I wouldn't want it to not
be there. But it never gets any better. It never
goes down any easier. Oh,
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Folks, if you ever find yourself in a haunted house,
it might be the interiors of a house.
In Mexico and you're being directed by an Italian
who is going to make you work with a bunch of Americans
because an Austrian guy wrote about the
Amityville house. It's very confusing. I didn't even mention that they filmed
all the in all the interiors of the house were filmed in Mexico.
There's just so many flavors right here. So many flavors.
I'm so confused. All right,
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