Five Nights At Freddy’s (That’s Where I Wanna Be)

Join your devilish hosts as they dive into the weird and wonderful world of Five Nights at Freddy’s! Does Chuck E. Cheese give you the creeps? Need a jumping off point for a franchise with lore so complicated it puts Kingdom Hearts to shame? Then grab a slice of pizza, check your vents for stray cupcakes, and get ready for some Faztastic and (not so) family-friendly fun!
(Cinemacabre is not liable for bodily harm including but not limited to bisection, ghost child possession, and/or getting mauled by a feral cupcake. Listen at your own risk.)

Creators & Guests

Host

Mason Baker

Host

Natalya Wilson

Host

Sean Ferris

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Sean
Welcome back to Cinemacabre WKNC's horror podcast. I am going to be your host today. I am Sean also known as lead pipe, and I have with me my two devilish hosts

Mason
Oh God. I am Mason, also known as DJ crush.

Natalya
I'm Natalia, otherwise known as DJ Roxy.

Sean
Awesome. We have come to you today with the best movie ever made. Probably going to be the movie of the year. Definitely the movie of our year, who like who would like to take it off?

Natalya
It's five nights at Freddy's

Mason
Five Nights at Freddy's. And I would I would like to formally apologize to our listeners, because I very much did lie to you. At the end of the last episode when I said that we were doing Blair what's next? Because I forgot that NAFTA was coming out. So soon after I said that. And we are a horror movie podcast made by a bunch of radio nerds. So trust and believe we are going to prioritize Five Nights at Freddy's if and whenever possible.

Natalya
Yeah, but like, five minutes or four days deserves all the priorities. Like I know. You and I are you and me Mason are familiar with it. But Sean, you didn't know any finance before we went into this movie. No. And you like dropped it on us. After we finished it. Like we were wandering out. And you were like I actually don't know anything about finance. Besides what we saw in the movie. So

Mason
I'm just to keep the dearest listeners in on our movie going experience. We saw this in theaters it was love opening

Natalya
night actually knows the Thursday before. So

Sean
somehow it was at a theater before opening night. We

Mason
can we can like throw in tidbits as we're describing the movie about like specific scenes in the crowd reaction. But um, after the fact, when Sean told us that he had never seen anything about if we stood outside for at least another hour, just talking about. And like word vomiting literally everything we know about FNaF and all the references that were in this movie, which trust and believe

Natalya
we'll get to Yeah, like trying to explain the lore even though like we don't really know. Yeah, it's been like so many years since like finance was like actually genuinely like a major like interest of mine because that would have been Middle School and like, I'm about to graduate college. So like, I'm a bit rusty. And there's like so many like new games now. And like there's like books. Yeah, well, there's a lot of books.

Mason
Once the book started coming out, that's when I kind of fell off. Because I think just came out right when I was like, I'm too cool for for now. And now I'm a freshman in college. And here we

Natalya
are. And like now like have to read them. Like, I don't know how to do that. But like you don't even like need to know like all of the stuff from all those pieces of media to go into this movie. Like maybe some of it like the like critical stuff like specifically with like, William Afton, which we were just doing a MatPat game theory watch to get to get our Lauren before a game this show. Yeah, we we just rewatched it, and then we watched some lore. So we're like ready to talk about this movie, and all the important things.

Sean
I feel like as a person who has scarcely consumed any Freddy Fazbear content, I feel like I'm the best suited to moderate you to talking over me the entire episode.

Mason
We didn't really plan this out evenly because we were like, oh, it's gonna be so much fun to like trade off who's like, quote unquote host for the episode. And we managed to give Shawn the one episode he does not know anything about so and it's perfect apology, Shawn.

Sean
I'll be like a presidential moderator between two psychopaths, like normal government. And I feel like the biggest thing we should talk about is that this movie was intended for fans. It wasn't intended. I mean, it was, you know, it wanted to go to a wider audience, but I feel like the director came out and was like, Yeah, this Is this is a movie for the fans. We are not pandering, but

Natalya
I mean this is I think that perhaps my massive enjoyment of this movie is just because I like finance. And I think it's really cool that like they made a movie about it. And honestly, they did a pretty good job with that,

Mason
I would say so I think I can kind of speak for all of us in saying that. It's not a very good movie.

Sean
It's the best money I've ever seen. But

Mason
it was very entertaining specifically as a fan, because I just kept looking over at Natalia every five seconds being like, there's a reference, do you see the reference?

Sean
And I would be like, I don't know what the hell is going on, you

Mason
would sink further into your chair.

Natalya
Like I'm sure there was like a lot of things that like, because I'm not like as up to date on the lore like definitely like details and like the background that I'm like, not really like noticing like what they are upon this rewatch like there was more like Marinette content, which we don't care about spoilers right

Mason
now, if you're going into this, if you're going into our review show, really concerned about spoilers. That's on you. But also it's five minutes at Freddy's you probably already know what happens. I

Sean
think the best way to start off would probably be getting into like a quick, as quick as we can't a summary of this movie. I know. If you've enjoyed our last episode, you know, we went at length about the Babadook

Mason
and you only saw about half of it.

Sean
I was I was brutal with the editing Plet

Mason
a moment of silence for editors. And Natalia because I don't know how to edit save my life.

Sean
But I feel like I'll give it off to one of you to start off since as being the actual fans of the content. You guys know the gravity of this movie better?

Natalya
I think I think I can take that if we don't mind. Um, this movie starts with I don't I don't know if Michael has a last name. I think he does, but I didn't read it on his thing. Oh, yeah. Mike Schmidt. The Yeah, Mike Schmidt played by Josh Hutcherson absolute cutie pie

Sean
I wanted to retract

Mason
you a good thing I just mentioned that you said that.

Natalya
Mike just got fired from his job and he needs to find a new job because he is the sole tech caretaker of his younger sister. And Mike also deals with a lot of guilt for the death of his younger brother Garrett when he was a kid and his like, main thing in this movie is like how he is it just like Dream Theory?

Mason
Yes, it is. Um, if I may take a moment when Dream Theory got introduced, I nearly walked out of the theater. Because for those that are uninitiated, such as our dear Shawn even though I told you about this after the fact dream theory is a theory explaining the first four games popularized by a MatPat that was very plausible in saying that they were all the dreams of a a dying child all four games. Oh my God. Don't quote me on that.

Sean
Why would a kid dream about that?

Mason
Because he got his frontal lobe.

Natalya
I know it was like the forest game. Like the idea is that like it's like the kid in like the hospital bed or like recovering after getting his like having like nightmares about all like these like nightmarish versions of the animatronics coming at him because like in that he's like checking like the closet and like the hallways and he's like weird to hallway bedroom. Which strange bedroom? Yeah, I don't like

Mason
it seemed like the master suite. Anyways.

Sean
I felt bad for him.

Natalya
But he's been using Dream Theory to try to rego to the camping trip where his brother was kidnapped. to like try to find like any more information about the person who took him Yeah, but he lost his job. So he goes to the Career Counselor and is offered a job as a knight security guard. Yeah,

Sean
I wear a

Mason
particularly suspicious job counselor by the name of Steve raglan. AKA spoiler warning at last chance, William Afton. Oh,

Natalya
total shocker.

Sean
By the wonderful,

Mason
incomparable.

Sean
Oh adjective.

Natalya
Oh, I don't have any adjectives. I'm sorry.

Sean
See you Got Matthew Lillard Matthew Lillard.

Natalya
I don't think he was sexy in this movie. I'm sorry those glasses did not do him any favors or that like goofy suit. He looked goofy in that suit at the end. Oh, you mean the spring lock suit? Yeah. Okay, like his like little head like with like the big like, like kind of like puffy, like furry esque body.

Sean
He suffers from the Ironman effect where it's like anyone would kind of look ridiculous in that big of a suit, but it's

Natalya
even bigger than the Ironman suit and it's true yellow or has a bowtie

Mason
cut this part out. Know, the record and the topic of the different podcast you Lillard being hot in this movie. I have most certainly seen some fan art. Oh, what kind of fan art? The fan art that you're thinking of?

Natalya
No, I actually don't know. And I think that after this, you should show and I think that we should keep it this is all going in Mike just got his job at Freddy's right to use. Um, he liked

Mason
the rundown Freddy's fast bear pizzas?

Sean
Yes. He's he takes his job real reluctantly, as he doesn't want to work nights because he has a young sister who's a grade school age, who struggles with what they think at first is some kind of mental disorder where she's seeing imaginary friends, which is not quiet. She's very quiet. But obviously kids just are like that, you know? So

Mason
it is very specifically cited by um, I guess the school counselor, she's not mentally ill. She's just kind of like, She's a child. They're

Sean
just yeah, the the aunt who is trying to get custody of said child is trying to say that she is so she can pull the pity card on and

Natalya
get more money from the government. Thankfully,

Mason
Microsoft all alone in taking care of Abby, because he does have a babysitter by the name of Max. Yes, just kind of two faced, who was kind of two faced. And we can get into this later. But I would like to just go ahead and bring it up now. I thought that she would be significantly more important to this film

Sean
we can talk about right now.

Mason
Let's talk about her right now.

Sean
I did too. She one of her first lines is her first line. Yeah, it speaks if she's watching like a commercial like an infomercial. And it's she's just saying like, Oh, I would love someone to buy me a ring. And Josh Hutcherson is just walking in. So you know, everyone's first thought is girlfriend. Yeah, yeah, that was my first she just she wants him to propose. Yeah, not the case.

Mason
Not the case. We did actually notice this on the second rewatch there for me.

Natalya
Yes, my third was my second watch. Oh, you've only seen it twice.

Mason
Yeah, we actually we do notice at least I noticed on my second watch that she does the I wish someone would buy me a ring line while having a ring on all but her pointer fingers on both hands. Which I have to say pretty funny. In retrospect

Sean
I don't I don't know if that's intentional because you do learn later that she is like being paid to be around by the aunt to get dirt on Josh's Josh Hudson's character. She

Natalya
didn't like get paid though. Like she was like promised money. She's like you need to pay up like but the aunt like paid her to like find like evidence that like the kid is like being neglected.

Sean
She wasn't even getting paid by.

Natalya
She's getting paid by no one because she wasn't getting the role the answer is not going to pay her like as girl. By

Mason
this point. Michael has already gotten the essentially like the forms to sign over custody of Abby, the daughter to the on for those. And the on is like really gunning against him. So he's like, Okay, I have to finally keep a job for once and not assault anyone?

Natalya
Yeah, that like keeps him working at like the super sketchy rundown with like the creepy animatronics building as the security guard because he's like, he just needs the money and he can't have you taken away from her from him.

Mason
So night to at Freddy's FAST BEER is a particularly strange night. So what do you say? So he goes into work and he goes to sleep. And part of Dream Theory is that through dreams, you can remember things that you would not otherwise and he's trying to figure out who kidnapped his brother. And he goes into the stream. And things are different. There are now five children just kind of standing there. And he's like, Do you know who took my brother to these little children, and they all scatter, and he runs after them. And by this point, he's going after a character who is dressed like Foxy, who slashes out his arm, and he wakes up. And oh, god, there's a slash on my arm. Now. We're going by Freddie rules the other Friday. And by that point, he gets a buzz at the door. Oh, yeah, this was one of the NASA shows. Um,

Sean
would you like to take that? One? So?

Natalya
I mean, yeah, sure. And I want to start this off by saying, I don't like Vanessa. Either. Like like her. Yeah, no,

Mason
she's kind of she's a little freak.

Sean
In that she tricks people into working.

Mason
No, she's just strange. She's

Natalya
so indirect. Like, she's like, you're gonna quit? That's like, I was like, Why do you say that's like, because everyone else did like, like, and like, she's like, trying to like warn him because like, here's our fun spoiler. She is William after his daughter and this Yes. So like, that was like, one of like, the big changes from the law that they did. Because like in the lore, like Mike Schmidt is a pseudonym for Michael Afton. Who is William Afton. Son is like oldest kid and like pretty much the only surviving one I think, because like his other two, surviving

Mason
in air quotes. I did air quotes and then does he become like,

Natalya
his like insides become like animatronic later on and they like, take control of his body? Sure. We can get to that later. What? No, it's important lore.

Sean
We can discuss it now. It's fine. We're

Mason
gonna discuss it now. Just in the myriad of ways that this differs from the games. Yeah, Mike Smith, no relation to William Afton. Vanessa, who is also a character in the games and is not originally related to William is related to him now. Which was a strange but I think kind of fun twist on everything that's happened thus far.

Natalya
Like it at least like still showed that like his kids, like do have like an important relation to him. Because like, that is like a big thing like with the lore is like how he's like lost his kids because I think both of them were killed by his animatronics. I forgot their names, but one of them was crushed by the Fred bear suit. Had his head caved in because of Michael and then the other one Charlotte. Wasn't she like grabbed by CIRCUS BABY? Or our Charlotte was the is Henry's daughter. Yeah, the business partners daughter. Yeah.

Mason
Whoever's in baby.

Natalya
knows the Henry's daughter's in the Marinette. Yes, because she's the one who gave gave life to the main five animatronics which I guess is not.

Mason
William's daughter isn't baby. Yes. Her name?

Natalya
I don't know. I don't think it really matters. You look so confused over there, Shawn.

Sean
I'm just letting y'all ride.

Mason
I'm sure you had homework.

Natalya
As you probably saw in the game theory video we watched in preparation. William Afton and Henry Emily question mark. Their business partners in their fun like Freddy Fazbear businesses. But then Kids start getting into accidents there and then a murder whenever like Williams kids death was an accident, but then he killed Henry's kid like right outside the establishment that's like probably like the first possession. I don't know if

Mason
yes, first possession Yes, the security of it goes out and collapses on the body rip puppet.

Sean
I think that's important to let the child to the uninitiated. To mention that this isn't just like oh, animatronic thing. There's ghosts in this it's all ghosts. It's and I didn't realize that because they it really doesn't make it obvious in the games that everything is ghosts. I mean,

Mason
it makes it kind of does it I've never played

Sean
them so I just mean like snapshots of

Natalya
the game. No, it's like very much like in like the mini games. I don't think the first one didn't have any mini games but like as like the series continued between nights they would add in like mini games that kind of like show off like more of the story. But you kind of like play along so like the one that I was referring to with the Marinette giving the main five animatronic Is it four or five I don't it doesn't matter giving the animatronics life. It like literally like carries like the suits or like the kids like to either the kids to the suits or the kids to like, have them possess them. And I guess, like, you know, like, maybe try to get revenge on William Afton. But in this movie, they can't they're kind of buddy buddy with him

Sean
because they're being trolled by, that's what I didn't really get was the motivation of the animatronics, but I don't want to get too far off of our Vanessa.

Natalya
We can come back to the pictures because I have a lot to say about the pictures. The pictures Yeah. Vanessa is William afternoons daughter. Right now she's

Sean
like, a cop.

Natalya
She is a cop now. But she like always like comes in like hangs out at like the at the restaurant. I don't know if she just like goes there like in her free time, like every night and she just like, pulled up and like saw that there was someone else there and it's like, bro, leave. I'm trying to have my ready and friends time.

Mason
I would say I am. I'm the Vanessa, defender of this podcast. But I do have to say, if I knew that my father killed a lot of people and then shoved them in suits. I would probably try and stay away from the building. Why would I go there?

Natalya
Yeah, that's terrifying, though.

Mason
I guess. She is under Williams influence, and is probably going there. Specifically to make sure Mike isn't like tampering with anything.

Natalya
Or like maybe like finding out too much. Probably. That's probably her

Sean
goal. That she was given a it also seems like she's trying to get Mike out. But also, it seems like she cares for these animatronics. Yeah. And I don't know if that's because of her father. Or if that's because there's kids inside these things. She

Natalya
might just have like, very like, tender like childhood memories of like being at the restaurant and like interacting with them that like even though she's like, older now and like she knows that the kids are in there. Oh, she knows that her father has murdered at least five kids. Six actually. Including Michael's brother Garrett.

Mason
Which spoilers but you know. Yeah,

Natalya
I mean. Yeah,

Mason
kind of heavily implied.

Natalya
Murderer and there was a child that was murdered. Hmm. Must be some other guy. Yeah.

Sean
Unrelated.

Natalya
Vanessa, just like I think she like shows off the animatronic. She's like, have you met them yet? And like makes them do like their little show. stays until the morning like they leave together? Yeah. And then she's just kind of like, popping up every other night as well.

Mason
But at the end of night to one day crests when Mike and Vanessa are leaving, that's when the goons hired by the aunt show up including Max and who might be Max's boyfriend. I think Brother, brother. Oh, brother. Yeah, Max's brother, along with two other guys who are like, we're gonna go mess the place up. So he loses his job. Yeah,

Natalya
they're like, You know what we're gonna do? We're gonna trash the place during the day, and get him fired as the night guard.

Sean
That's what I really didn't get. Because like, that's not his job during the day for $1,000

Mason
split between for people $250 To ruin a man's life.

Natalya
It's like 2001 that can get you more. Not

Sean
that much more true, but also if you're gonna buy your house

Mason
on GameCube

Natalya
maybe

Sean
this was ps1 up.

Natalya
I don't know, though. We

Mason
need to hire a resident fact checker so we can look up things like how much can you guess for

Sean
Good lord. Installation wrong deck.

Natalya
But they the intruders get their shit rocks.

Mason
They get lapped.

Sean
They don't just get their ass kicked. They they die. They die pretty hard.

Natalya
Actually, I would say they get their asses eaten but like one of them specifically did not get their ass eaten. Also,

Sean
that's a whole different contexts anyway, perhaps.

Mason
So um, everything starts off with one of my biggest questions about this movie. So much so that I accidentally wrote it three separate times in my notes. Allow me to read it off for you all. Quote. Why is the cupcake like?

Natalya
Elaborate?

Mason
So the cupcake in this movie immediately begs a lot of questions. Namely, is it possessed?

Sean
That was my biggest question. Also, why

Mason
does it have to? Yeah, well, I

Sean
imagine at some point, at least this Afton definitely made them as killing machines probably.

Natalya
Do you think like the cupcake was like an accessory? It's like, hey, hey, Chica, I imagine need you just to serve a little bit more? Literally take this. Give

Sean
her tray and everything. But it has like eyeballs and like it. Like it blinks like the rest of them. And like, it just kind of like floats to. Which

Mason
is strange. For sure.

Natalya
It's the ghosts. My big.

Sean
Yeah, my biggest thing is the rest of the animatronics have kids in them? Yes. Is there a kid stuffed in that thing? It's like a foot by a foot by a foot. Maybe it's like a square. Square. It's a cube. Anyway.

Mason
So the very first death scene that occurs in this film occurs in the kitchen, where Chica is a big fan of going both in the movie and in the games where the student opens this fridge and there's the cupcake and and then he has something behind them turns around, turns back around. Nothing. They're amazing. classic horror movie turns back in cinema. And Chico's they're holding the cupcake. And essentially, will plague be upon you. The Cupcake at his face. And things don't really go well for him after that. Yeah, he's

Natalya
very much done. Yeah.

Sean
And also, Chica is probably the scariest out of the four she

Natalya
got freaked me out the way that she like just like stares. I don't know if it's like she does have enough like eyelid or something. But like one she's like a mood the way that she just like stares off into space and looks like she's like has like suddenly like voices screaming in her head at all times. But also like she is terrifying and kind of haunts me.

Sean
I think it's a bird with teeth. That really gets me Yeah,

Mason
I can't say I love that.

Sean
If they got rid of the teeth, they would instantly look less scary. I feel like

Mason
this does lead us on to my favorite animatronic of the bunch. Yeah. And the next killer, Barney. I've always been a massive Barney fan. Shout out to Blue people

Natalya
I love those three guys that play those instruments.

Mason
So, um, ever since I was introduced to the franchise, Barney has always been my favorite. I just love his design. Why is he blue? But um, so he gets he gets this one guy. I don't even know his name to be honest.

Sean
Doug number one or some the other.

Mason
Freaks him out. So he goes running steps into a closet. And Bonnie's there waiting for him. And I think this is the first actual bit of blood that we see in the movie.

Natalya
Yeah, that's a bloody handprint that like on

Mason
the glass of the door. And up next is Brother Guy. Who I also don't know the name of who gets got by Foxy. Yes. Yeah, it's

Sean
Foxy. Well, Barney scares him. Yes. And then he's slamming on the door like the opening scene with the security guard.

Mason
He gets got by Foxy. And then max wachsen. And this was where I was like getting kind of concerned because as we said, I thought that Max would have been a bigger character. But

Sean
no, her plot gets shortened. Just as she did

Mason
it gets it says her height gets cut pretty hard. Yeah. into if you will. Yeah. My sector. So she sees the ghosts of this child. And it's like literally was a child doing in here. They're like currently robbing the place. So she chases after. And goes into the maintenance room where there is a Friday soon. And it will ghostly child voice says warmer, warmer as she gets closer and she leans into the mouth. And then a ghost child hand reaches out grabs her pulls her is drawn kid going strong kid and the suit chomps her in half. It's awesome. It is. This is like a odd for a PG 13 film

Natalya
we like see like her like, like lower half like dropped to the floor, I

Sean
believe is the shadow of it.

Mason
No, we see like, we don't see the act itself.

Natalya
We see her legs and like torso and like not like we don't see like the gore like there's like a little bit of like blood like this movie is not gory. I wouldn't say it's like necessarily even like, violent except for like the ending scene. Yeah. Yeah, PG 13 horror movie like you're not gonna do like a lot with it. I'm actually want to ask you guys like how do you feel about like the amount of violence and then like the actual or parts itself.

Sean
I definitely was expecting a lot more. I didn't know the rating going in. But now knowing it, I understand. I would have preferred it to be a little scarier. Because I was expecting to, you know, um, I was scared of the games as a kid. So I never played them. That's why I never consumed any fun AF content. And so it was a little disappointing, but I do get it. Like the the audience is generally younger. So it makes sense.

Mason
i This is the level that I thought it would be. If anything, it's a little more than I thought it will be mostly because Max got chopped in half, which was still a lot. But I'm I'm honestly fine with it. I could more gore could have been fun, but I'm not like really somebody who cares that much about gore. If it serves to heighten the movie then sure, but I don't really think this movie needed a

Natalya
fair. Yeah, I think it's very much like an appropriate level of violence given how much violence is in the games. Most of that horror is like off screen like you get the jumpscare but like you don't really see the aftermath. But like I don't know, it was kind of like weird like, in this scene that like shows like these like four intruders getting killed each picked off by like one member of the squad. They have like each like member of like the like Freddy crew kill one of the people but like they also like don't really like show like how it just kind of like, they cut to it afterwards. And it's like, what are they even doing to them? Besides like, Freddy obviously chopping her in half. Like the other one just kind of got like I don't know. God, God, I don't know what happened there.

Sean
Well, I mean, the cupcake I definitely got like just shredded mold. Today. The body like what is Barney? Barney, just for the most part is kind of a cute puppet. I like him. Again. He's my favorite. But um, looks like you could hug him. Yeah, he's very huggable the rest of them. When they look angry like you, you get scared. He's just punches him. I mean, does it opposable thumbs because we see the scene. I

Natalya
love that same body falls over. I don't know why people like don't like that. But that's, that's not this night. No, no, that's the that's night for we can talk about that. We're on night three, because these these guys are dead. And I mean, Vanessa comes to see him during the day and is like, why are you Why do you have pills at your job? And he like opens up to her about his dead brother and how

Mason
he is going into a stream. So try and find them. What's not gonna lie. If I was Vanessa, I would be a little concerned. That was

Natalya
him. But he's cute.

Mason
Since he is unfortunately down half a babysitter. He has to take Abby to work with him on the third night. And Abby sets up a very lovely looking for it. She's

Natalya
amazing for I love the force in this movie set.

Sean
I believe it's the fourth night now that's the third night. No, the fourth night is like

Natalya
when like they're all like hanging out as a group. The third night is they set up she sets up her forte to sleep in and he's like you're just gonna sleep in here. Yeah, but then when whenever he falls asleep one of the ghost kids who's like I mean, I don't know if it's like revealed at this point. But like, if knowing that she has been friends with these ghost kids, which we saw in her drawings earlier. So just like rewind and like talk about like Abby more in detail here since like, this is like where she like starts like actually like interacting with the animatronics. So like Abby is a very quiet girl, as we all mentioned, but she like draws a lot. And our first introduction to her. Mike comes into her room after I think his meeting at the career counseling office, and he's like trying to talk to her and like talking about her drawings. And one of them is like, I think it's her him and like four or five like random other kids and he's like, Who is that and she's just like my friends. But like if you look at it, they do all have the character sticks have the ghost children that Mike is seeing in his dreams. Which he realizes a bit later that like she has been talking to these kids, even before he got this job like for a little bit, but just kind of interesting to like think about like, why? My theory was that like, I don't know, maybe they're like connected because Mike's brother died by the same killer. So like maybe they felt like some kind of connection and like, came to them because it's also her brother. Yeah, once Mike starts working at five minutes or working at Five Nights at Freddy's working at Freddy files bears I think that's when he starts to also like dream about the same kids. But like he had to be like in much like closer proximity and like, only sees them in his dreams compared to Abby who has been like, during daytime talking to them. But at the third night, whenever she's sleeping there, she wakes up because one of her friends is like, hey, come hang out come party. And that's when she meets the animatronics

Sean
animatronic.

Mason
And Mike wakes up from his little powwow, dreamin adventure, to hear Abby screaming, and he's like, Oh my God, why is my sister screaming?

Natalya
They got her got her

Sean
you better in half Bite of 87

Mason
the fight of 2000 so he runs into the main room and sees that they're all surrounding her. Turns out they were just tickling her. And she said, I thought I was gonna die, which was extremely funny to me for some reason.

Sean
I don't really know how they were tickling her without like, crushing her. No like fingers.

Natalya
I mean their fingers but like I feel like would be weird to like try to like move them enough. Yeah, he was the ghosts. I don't know the was the kids. Yeah, but like the ghosts have like some kind of physical form. Yeah, it's weird.

Sean
It's very gray whether the kids bodies move it because like the kids it's it's implied that the kids bodies are not implanted said by Vanessa later. The kids bodies are in these machines. And then they come out periodically. But that's it's hard to tell if that's like a ghosts. elaboration. We

Natalya
also see a few times that like the kids are manifesting in the physical world. Yeah, I think the last one that we see in the movie is like before foxy as a bit of a jump. But whenever Foxy is stalking Abby, it like shows like the kid ghost going back and then the suit appearing so like, they have like some kind of physical presence in the world sometimes. Yeah, so like maybe they are using their childlike fingers to tickle her which is gross and weird, but like, yeah, maybe animatronic? Yeah, they're

Sean
just hanging out. She's like, so happy the murder machine.

Natalya
I think she knows that their murder machine? No, of course not.

Mason
I don't know quite yet.

Sean
Nobody does, I

Natalya
guess but except for Vanessa,

Sean
who is being extremely vague about all of this

Mason
the next night. Going a little bit forward. Next night is when Vanessa is also there. And Mike is like so you know about like the possess robots, right? She was like, Yeah, I do. Thanks. Very helpful. So this is one weekend. What I would argue is the best scene I love

Natalya
this night. This night is so fun. It's so silly. It's so silly. Goofy.

Mason
It's silly, Goofy.

Natalya
This is the third floor.

Mason
They decided to make a fort out of records essentially.

Sean
Like the tables and stuff that were thrown around after the the ruckus of the intruders earlier.

Natalya
I think he cleaned it up in night three. Right. And then they messed it up. Hey, Dan, to make afford, I guess. Oh, yeah. But like Who else you can keep the Ford up.

Mason
Nobody else is using it while making the fort Bonnie falls over. And then gives the thumb up to indicate that he's okay. And Vanessa also gives the thumbs up which I just really approve. We also

Natalya
all gave the thumbs up literally during this. Like we're all like it's so funny. I don't understand like why people criticize this scene like why they don't like it like it's so cute.

Mason
Just so you all at home knows since you cannot see us. We did also just now.

Natalya
Yeah, he's a part of us.

Sean
And we are a part of Barney. I saw this like big animosity online with that scene and how like you know, cute and fun the animatronics were being but like, I understand that the games they're the opposite of that. But in the lore and in the movie, they are their kids playing with other another kid so obviously they're going to be like was a little silly sometimes with

Mason
another child other than the people they're trapped with right for 20 ish years.

Sean
They want to make a fort. I will

Mason
let them make a fort I would want to make a fort to

Natalya
I still want to make before we can

Sean
remain afford after this.

Natalya
Night for is the night that we get introduced to like the spring walk. Yes. Which will be so very important for the end. Mike nearly goes and touches a spring lock suit was just like a rickety piece of machinery that if touched wrong. Well, like,

Mason
essentially kind of collapse it on its own. Yeah,

Sean
but it's meant to just hold the person in the suit. Right?

Natalya
I think it's just because it's old and like, it hasn't been maintained. It's like kind of like finicky. Especially, it's like any like moisture gets into it. Like in the games. It's like the moisture. That's the problem with

Mason
the spring locks are meant for both people to wear and for animatronics to wear. So it is meant to cup both people and machines. And sometimes if press wrong. It does not recognize which which for people doesn't tend to go very well. Very well. See you later.

Sean
You also mentioned the certain puppet that this was Marinette. Yes. What's significant about that?

Natalya
So in the lore the Marinette is the the soul possessing it is the daughter of William outruns. Business Partner, Henry. Henry. Emily. Yeah, I'm

Sean
often murdered, right? Yes. Yeah, the kid.

Natalya
So and the Marinette is the one that whenever all the like four or five kids went missing from Freddie's. The Marinette made sure that their souls lived on in the bodies. I think the marionette does more. But that's like the main thing that I know. And a lot of people are upset that America is not included in this movie. Um, it's just like a very, like iconic character.

Mason
There is a teaser at the end of this movie. At the very end, like literally end of the credits, implying, Marian that's probably going to be in the next one. Which is a good segue into saying a sequel has already been greenlit. Of course, actually, I think. I think a second and third have already been

Sean
what do you make a fast billion dollars?

Mason
billion dollars and then it's gonna make two and 3 billion respectively?

Sean
Yeah, well, I mean, they're gonna do better and better. That's how sequels work. This movie is like

Natalya
so successful,

Mason
then we're gonna go 10 Nights at Freddy's, Freddy and space. So once Mike and Vanessa, get back from their little side conversation, Abby is up on stage, and goes to strum Bonnie's guitar. Like, oh

Sean
yeah, we noticed that in this movie had four strings. So I mentioned as a DJ, that's a bass.

Mason
That makes sense. So you

Natalya
play instruments. We just played the music.

Sean
You're making too much sense.

Mason
I play all of my youth music. Oh, sorry. I'll stop you. God really showing us up here? Like just talking.

Natalya
Me getting injured. Abby

Mason
gets friggin electrocuted. Ramp,

Sean
like not actually. Like slippery bandits? She flies across the room.

Mason
After getting shocked very strange, frankly.

Sean
Yeah, it's kind of a weird, cartoony bit of action there. But you

Natalya
know, our movie about animatronics is cartoony frog with the rest

Sean
of it is like, somebody's face got blended in the other one, their body got eaten in half. And now she just got like, zapped

Natalya
Yes. Yeah, like trying to her her she just kind of being dumb. That's true.

Mason
And then for some reason, like, Vanessa kind of gets on mic about that, for some reason, even though like they were in the exact same place and neither of them stopped up.

Sean
She probably knew, at least was in the, you know, best case to know that Bonnie's Don't touch her instrument did that.

Natalya
Yeah, but like, that's like, I don't know. She's so bad at communicating anything she like says like, no, don't do that. Like as like her hand has already on it.

Sean
It's, it's so frustrating. Because it's like, it's a case of like communication could have solved the entire problem. And I understand that's a that's a human thing. But that's such a thing that plagues movies, where it feels like the plot could be much simpler, but then you wouldn't have a movie.

Natalya
I think it's like, in my opinion, like a kind of like a character Her writing issue with Vanessa. Yeah, we're like she was written to be the character that gives Mike like all the details on Friday. Also like William napkins daughter and like knows about the danger but like they can't have her like be like sensible and like tell him not to be there. And like it doesn't really like feel like that she was like ridden very much from like the perspective of She Has whatever relationship with her father, and is like trying to warn Mike about it. It was more of like the What does she need to tell Mike for the story. And for him to like, learn a little bit more. It just becomes like so like cryptic and like the things she says and then she's like, I tried to tell you and it's like, try harder.

Sean
Yeah. What did she say to Mike that he didn't already learn himself? Yeah. Like nothing? Not much.

Natalya
She told him that the other night guards quit. Which did they even quit? Some of them got murdered.

Mason
Yeah. So she's, she's just a liar. But that does lead us into the final act of this film. The fifth night at night at fatties. fatties fast bear.

Five Nights at Freddy that's where I want to be. The alternative this is just gonna be as poorly Sigmar

Sean
yes copyrighted

Natalya
we can't. Knight five. How does how does Mike go in there? Does he I forget like what he is. He's like determined, does he have a goal? Or

Sean
you might not even there yet. He

Mason
gets the he gets the aunt to baby said yes, Abby, because believe it or not after getting electrocuted. He kind of doesn't want Abby to be there. Crazy. So he goes there. And he takes his little sleeping pills. And the children are there. His dream is different, but his dream was different. And Gareth's still there? And the children are like, you can stay with Aaron. We want Abby and he accidentally says yes. And then realizes, Oh, I actually kind of like Abby. And

Sean
yeah, cuz she's like, alive. I care about my sister. Yeah. And it's

Mason
been dead for a very long time now. Rip Garrett. Yeah,

Natalya
I could get but get over it. Come on,

Sean
I will say that that was like, at least the part that moved me the most because it's like, such a like, if anybody was given that option between like, bringing back someone who, like they've grieved for so long. And you know someone who is it is alive, you would be like, Oh, well. Maybe and then you're like, wait, no, that means someone would need to know you more

Mason
than one second. Exactly. Which it was a little too late. Sorry, Mike. Yeah, he gets all sorts of slashed up in that dream, and then wakes up in the same frickin saw trap from the beginning of that mask. Could have been Markiplier. And it could have been Markiplier with all sawblades. And it was hinted at at the very beginning that one of the bolts was loose. So he manages to undo that. And he slips out just at the last second so he doesn't get his beautiful face chopped abets. He

Natalya
kind of does like the final girl circuit where he like sees all the people that have been killed. Kind of.

Mason
Yeah, they're all in one room. But I mean, yeah,

Natalya
it's a very efficient circuit.

Sean
Yeah, they're doing efficiently. We

Mason
see the top half of Max, the one dude with the Swiss cheese face. He got up

Sean
and we saw his whole ugly face the

Mason
Barney guy who just kind of looked like he got slapped really hard. So then he kind of does do the final girl circuit. I'm actually glad that you note of that, where he's like running all around the pizzeria. And then he gets to that same door, the same door that has failed three times now. And you hear the little Doom doom. I'm not even gonna try

Natalya
oxys little

Sean
jig. The foxy scattering? Yeah, that's sort of the subtitle,

Mason
subtitle so and then foxy runs after him. And it cuts back to Michael's house. Where Jane is like, Abby, can you stop sucking for a minute? Like, can you just come out here please? And she's like, I hate you and you smell like cigarettes. Drag her. She goes to sit down. And then from our periphery in the movie. You can see, Golden Freddy was actually not supposed to stand up, but I'll get to it. Who was kind of flickering between the child and the suit? who eventually appears to Abby and it's like, let's go play. Oh, and then j instead. Rip. Yeah.

Natalya
But like she kind of deserved it. She sucked. So you just

Sean
see her. You just see her feet, which made me think, Oh, she's she's been knocked out. She's dead. She's dead. But that's pretty dead. I hate to jump too far forward. But like, at the end of the movie, they don't talk about it with you. I mean, maybe there was a dead woman in my house house, actually. Yeah, I like the cops would definitely show up because they'd be like, the only person in here was the little girl. And so there's one suspect now. Sorry. But

Natalya
like she's like a kid. Like,

Sean
of course. They wouldn't think it was her

Mason
there is kind of a witness. Because in the next scene. Yeah, they go to a cab. And Korea extension is the cab driver. I was very excited about that. And I think this is a good time to talk about the cameos or lack thereof in some cases. No. Markiplier some piece Markiplier he's still alive. But you know. Where's Mark? Well, there was Korea's attention. They got like a mild reaction from Yeah, I'm gonna be honest, I don't know who that is. I I've watched a few of his videos. I wasn't like super. The last player mostly. Yeah. Okay. And then, earlier in the film, at the diner, the raw energy that permeated the theater at that time, was nothing like anything I had ever seen palpable before or since. When Matthew Patrick, game theory man showed up on the screen, and the collective gasp it was like, God,

Natalya
it was like a wave of like, some people in the audience oh my god, realizing sooner, like there was like a few and like you could like, it was a slight build up and then like, and then they could fully see him and he says, but that's just the theory. And like, everyone's going crazy. I'm

Mason
gonna say kind of a shoehorn line. But I still enjoy it. The script

Sean
of this entire movie was was was fun. But it was it could have used a little more work possible. For five minutes pretty movie. As good as it was gonna be.

Natalya
Especially based on a game series that has like so little actual writing in it. It's for like, most of the lore is like so inferred more so from like, visuals that like there's like so little text. I mean, I know those books now, but I don't think those are like written by I think there's other writers. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay.

Sean
There was um

Mason
there was some things going around on Twitter prior to this that were like, director when asked if mess MatPat or the living tombstones music will be in a was just like, watch it and find out. Which to me is corporate speak for? No, but we want you to see it anyways. Yeah, they don't want to disappoint anyone. So I was expecting him to not be in it. And I literally, like did a backflip in my chair.

Natalya
That makes me so happy that we went and saw this in theaters like on like the opening night because like everyone, like match the energy of

Sean
it. Yeah, cuz at that point, nobody knew whether to confirm it or not.

Mason
Literally, the only thing that we knew was at the premiere of fight broke out, but we want Have you not seen that?

Sean
Video of a brawl? Yeah.

Mason
It was extremely funny.

Natalya
I wonder how those those people who participated feel a month later knowing that they fought at the finance

Sean
movie ever.

Mason
I know what this is probably moving together. It was a credit.

Natalya
Watch the movie together. I guess there were like polarized about it. At least they

Mason
waited. Yeah. Like gentleman like gentleman. A gentleman's bro. Yeah. Anyway, back to the to

Natalya
the plant. It is on her way to Freddy's. Oh, wait, actually, I wanted to talk about Golden Freddy. Since he's like this, like pretty much like his only scene in the movie. So when Mike has been having his dreams, he's only really been talking to like one of the kids. And that's been the one who like, is like the one who comes to see Abby at her house. And Mason's since you mentioned that like go On Friday isn't supposed to stand. I want to talk about like, not the presence of the ghosts in the animatronics. Because, like, the way I interpreted like going on Friday, like being able to stand and like be able to, like, manifest this far away. I kind of assumed that like, maybe because the kid that's in Golden Freddy doesn't have like as much of like, a physical presence as like much of like a physical animatronic to inhabit. I wonder if it kind of like has like, more of its like spirit retained and like more power as a ghost in that way, which is like, why he's like the spokesperson of them and like, why he can like, I assume that that Golden Freddy was like, just the ghost,

Mason
kind of the leader of the group, I think. But um, at least within the lore of Five Nights at Freddy's Golden Freddy, to my knowledge is not an animatronic suit. It's like a mascot costume. So would

Natalya
it be like the original Fredbear suit? The way that I'm Spring Trap is like the original, like golden bread or according Barney, I don't

Mason
think so. There's

Natalya
just so many yellow,

Mason
yellow. I'm not certain. So don't quote me on that. But in kind of the myriad of terrifying faiths that befall characters in the series, it's one thing to be possessing an animatronic. It's another thing to be possessing a suit that cannot move. So that's the reason that in every single game, you only see it slumped over. Because it's essentially just a husk that happens to have the soul of a child and rip

Natalya
even more trapped than the other ones that lives the other ones can like move around a little bit, but also

Mason
for the sake of the movie had to kind of do away with that. Can't just have the thing teleporting around everywhere.

Natalya
To kind of afford. Like, how did he How do you get there? You

Mason
also have to take the cab. I think that was

Sean
you take the cab too

Natalya
that's what the cab was out there. It was like waiting my neck. Sorry, can you stop here? I need to pick something up

Sean
my initial thought was that Golden Freddy, the whole thing. The kid and the animatronic are all aberrations. Because which obviously is kind of proved wrong by you know, the cab slumping over when Golden Freddy gets in the car, but

Natalya
okay, it's just a silly gag after thinking about that.

Sean
Yeah, but like, Golden Freddy never interacts with the rest of the animatronics. Yeah, which is I'm not sure if there's any you know, law or context for that. But I mean beyond I

Natalya
mean in the first game, like all well most of the characters in this movie are specifically from the first game they did have Mr. Balloon Boy, which is from the second game I'm pretty sure um,

Mason
Spring Trap third game I guess technically golden body at this point. Yeah, I don't know. He'd become Spring Trap at the end.

Natalya
But like the main cast of five are all from the first game. But Golden Freddy is kind of like an Easter egg character just like I think he can either like spawn randomly or you can like specifically induce him by doing like certain things like with like the game settings or like a different mode of the game

Mason
in custom night if you set the animatronics to 1987 87 Yes Oh that's golden for any will jump scare you and I think Crusher game. Yeah.

Sean
Awesome. I want to play this game even more now.

Mason
I love it when my game crashes. It's in your computer. Ready?

Natalya
But Abby is now at my goal. She's now at Freddy's but Mike is being having his wounds taken care of by Vanessa who finally tells him like what's been going on and like he's like understandably pissed off. That she didn't say anything. He gave

Mason
him a a taser prior to seeing his reaction which is kind of nuts.

Natalya
Yeah, it'd be so funny though. Like ah, you lied to me? tase

Sean
I honestly like she was pulling out that photo of herself as a child with yellow Bonnie. You know Lily Matson

Natalya
and she's holding the plane that Michael's brother has been like playing with it's like the first scene of his dream is like the like plane being played with and she had it as a gift which is insane arranged gifting your daughter literally toy evidence, actually. The toy from the kid that you murdered you're like, oh my gosh, it still has some blood on it. Oh,

Sean
I absolutely would have tasted Not to mention the fact that she let your little sister play with these murder machines. She's just not a good person that she's supposed to be obviously, it makes me not want to root for her at all.

Natalya
makes me really happy when she got stabbed. It was kind of funny.

Mason
So we're now back at Freddy's. They go to families to save Abby, after Vanessa specifically like, yeah, we'll even have to miss my father. But um, baby girl, um, I can't be there. Because I don't know if I'm going to be able to help you whenever he's there. So she hands Mike all the keys and Michael as beat up as he is like, I'm gonna go save my sister up, up. So he crawls through the vents around there for some reason. Just one of the My favorite character is the rat that shows up for literally one scene. At the same time. Chica is leading Abby to a backroom,

Natalya
that spring lock soon. This is the second instance of this premium dog suit. Yeah, I wonder if they'll show it a third time? Perhaps?

Mason
Oh, no, we're shadow. Whatever that means. Mike manages to take out Bonnie and Freddie by pouring water on the ground and electric using up so they get zapped. Sorry. Yeah.

Sean
And before Vanessa says that, electrocuting these, the animatronics will just put them out temporarily. I don't know about you, but if you shock like a machine, like a lot, like with a taser, they definitely wouldn't work anymore has a

Natalya
battery. So definitely like mess with it in some way.

Mason
This does actually might actually be a reference to the fifth game system. Because a part of that is controlled shocks, which is essentially to get the animatronics back in line. You electric use them a little bit. Oh, interesting. They don't tend to like that very much as Go figure. Not many people.

Natalya
Have you tried that?

Mason
Not answering that. That sounds guilty when you get that lawyer so takes him out. Runs electrocutes Chica, who is about to shove Abby into the spring lawsuit that Mike almost triggered earlier. And Abby is like, kind of upset. She's like, I don't know why they started doing this.

Natalya
I mean, yeah, it's her friends. Yeah. And she's like, my friends are literally trying to murder me brutally. My friends don't do them. That's kind of that's kind of toxic.

Mason
Yeah. Yeah. Which this is when like, kind of like we were talking about while watching for a second time. This is when Abby stops being like the typical horror movie weird child, because she is now aware of everything that's happening and is trying to stop it. Fierce. Love her. So she is trying to hide while Mike is trying to get everything under control.

Natalya
Don't do like reunite but then don't get separated again.

Mason
Yes, because Mike gets attacked by the cupcake.

Sean
Clam cupcake. Literally,

Mason
once again, it was in my notes three times. Why is the cupcake like that? It takes up. I'm gonna say about a fourth of my note.

Sean
And then proceeds like a five minute scene where Mike is thrashing this thing around on his leg. It's not five minutes. It's not it feels like five minutes. It feels like forever. I was like just kick the thing it's probably five

Mason
minutes between that and also like I'll be hiding and all that because she

Natalya
like runs away. I don't really remember what like what she's going to go do but she ends up getting pursued by Foxy and she's like hiding like in the arcade area and in

Mason
the pulpit which I gotta say I didn't get a pulpit is a very fun horse. And it's

Natalya
like such like a trailer shot it really like her like sinking into it. Like dramatically like girl get in there faster. That thing is gonna kill you.

Sean
It's also like, it's like putting the bedsheets above your head. It's like you're hiding but not really particularly.

Natalya
That's actually like the reason why I'm too scared to watch the grudge because like the way that the grudge like appears underneath the bedsheets upsets me. That's my safe space. Like I used to hide under there. You can't be under there too.

Sean
You also hate like house violence. Yeah, I

Natalya
don't like home invasion. Yeah, so like, invading my bed as well.

Sean
Take me as a dinner first. Good well One Thank you myself later what's fucking

Natalya
really good, really good comedy. I'm Hope you all are having fun but Vanessa shows back up and saves Abby because she's she's being so brave but at the same time, William Adams also showing up. Yes, it's golden. It's Golden Dawn,

Mason
Eve Ragland aka William Afton.

Sean
has shown it okay Matthew glaring Hey

Mason
Matthew Lillard aka Spring Trap, aka Barney

Natalya
was up comes up and attacks Mike and

Mason
has super strength for some launches, launches out some across the room. His little five, seven self yeah gets five five like football kicks between five

Natalya
five and five, seven depending on different eras. Yeah, I really like Spring Trap. I really like this design. Like I'm really hoping that like the later movies give us more spring truck, Spring Trap and like more William Afton. Because like I like in my notes. I have so many comments specifically about Spring Trap cuz I just really liked the movement. Like kids like body movement, I assumed that Spring Trap was also like a suit the same way that all of the animatronics were. But like, they move so differently like they do like, like, you can very much tell the difference between the movement of Spring Trap compared to those the animatronics, right? Because once he takes off his helmet, yeah, it's just a guy. It's just a guy, just an old guy. Even

Mason
though there were some scenes where the animatronics were actually being puppeted. And there were some where it was a suit, essentially, right. There was always that robotic movement that was not present with Spring Trap. He's so smooth. It was very smooth. And I I really enjoyed that attention to detail there. Like

Natalya
makes it like kind of like jarring, like, seeing him move compared to how we've like seen the animatronics move in the whole movie of the first you know, four nights.

Sean
He's much scarier than the rest of them. Yeah.

Natalya
I'm like, he's awesome. I

Mason
just have to say Matthew Lillard as with every film roll this man has ever done. Just bring it on the house. Absolutely. I just love him. He's wonderful. Like,

Natalya
even though like we've been like, kind of shitting on the script. And like, when we're watching the movie, we're like, Are these people good actors? And we're like is Josh Hutcherson like doing a good job here? Is he just cute?

Sean
Um, that was more Natalia is words than the

Mason
rest of if you're on even allows for comments please comment below. We won't see it, but just let us know do you think Josh Hutcherson is a good actor?

Natalya
Someone pull that I'm like,

Sean
if you think is cute, right? Like if you think is cute

Natalya
Massa Willards. i He like played William Afton for like such a short amount in this movie. But I feel like it gave so much character to this man who has murdered children and has now has like enacted control over their afterlife to like the way that he talks to both Vanessa and the kids is so

Mason
like an abusive father. It's

Natalya
such like an abusive father but like he like knows exactly like the things to say to make a child like feel put down. He uses such like targeted language for children and says it in a way. Like, I don't know if that was the script or just him like knowing how to like, kind of like putting his own like spin on it. I thought he did like a really good job making this like final character like the final villain of the movie like has such a strong presence. Absolutely. Even though like he also gets finished off pretty soon after.

Sean
Yeah, and

Mason
when he first appeared, it's actually I noticed this again on the rewatch. He has this little classic knife and he does the ghost face wipe. Where like, you essentially grabbed the blade and just pulled down on it.

Natalya
It's like wiping the blood off of it. It was a very clean blade though.

Mason
There was no blood on the blade at the time.

Natalya
It didn't make a noise. I don't think okay, it went

Sean
like how he has

Natalya
like little like felt hands. No.

Mason
Considering this is Matthew Lillard doing this. That has to be an intentional rough, obviously.

Natalya
Yeah, no, he was like one of the he's a horror icon like of course,

Mason
just in case anybody at home does not know Matthew Lillard played one of the two original killers in

Natalya
first grade. That's the wrong movie. Well, for now, I've been on screen

Mason
for 30 years how to be fair Yeah, I think if you don't know that screen by now you're good. We're in

Natalya
night five Spring Trap is Yeah, kinda kicking. Yes. Yeah.

Mason
So, again, literally, Ponce Mike, like the little football he is. And I was going for Abby. But Vanessa is like, no.

Natalya
Spring job is like not and stabs her and stabs her.

Sean
Well, before that, Vanessa, let's one fly right into her dad's chest. Which I thought would be, you know, a little more effective, but it really didn't do anything

Mason
just because there's metal in there,

Natalya
there's a lot of metal on there and, like blocked, probably kind of like made him like our cheese, like not too much.

Sean
But it was definitely like the biggest act of defiance. And she gets stabbed. And then a scene that I find a little funny, but everyone else finds a little more impactful is kind

Natalya
of say, impactful. But I would say I know why. Yeah, I understand why it's there. It's

Mason
a cool thing to have, like finally have Ashton's influence on these children being broken, and they finally see him for the monster that he is, of course, essentially, how small he is, in this moment. He's not this big, terrifying thing that's haunted them for 20 years. Yeah, he's now just a man in a suit.

Natalya
So like, the way that they defeat him is that Abby draws a picture depicting all the murders that will happen committed as the Spring Trap suit, um, as Golden Bonnie, and she puts it on the wall where like, all the kids drawings had been, and like prior to that, it was like all like, all the kids like having fun with it, presumably, presumably drawn by like kids like as like they're there. And like, they're really happy about it, or having a great time. So they draw that. So like, there was a picture of all of them being friends, all the kids with golden Barney, and much earlier in the movie, I don't know, like, what this woman's role was if she was like a counselor, or a teacher or something, but she's like, drawings are like, very important to children they like, that's how like, they figured out the world. That's how like, they communicate themselves. So like, the drawings on the walls were like, that's how the kids the ghost kids in the suits, kind of like saw their existence and saw their relationship with William Afton. And the suit specifically. So whenever Abby puts her new drawing on there, it like, helps them like remember how they were brutally murdered, and they all turn on him. And oh, my God, this kill once

Mason
again, that will cupcake for the fourth time. The fourth time goes ham and rips a hole in suit. Which I it's a very smart thing, because now we can actually see it's amazing. And we finally get to see the iconic spring luck kill from Five Nights at Freddy's three with all of the spring locks digging into it's it's so good. It's a terrifying way to die. And so very little character like this. Like

Natalya
the lack of violence in the rest of the movie is like completely made up for by like seeing I mean, we don't see the whole thing because we just only see like the part of the suit that got mauled by the cupcake, but like even like those three things, like you like see it digging into his flesh and like it then like, then you kind of like see like the effects of more of them. But like it just like keeps going. That one like it doesn't shy away from but then he's like, I always come back or whatever. And he puts on puts on the helmet so he can like hopefully, yeah,

Mason
because that's the suit kind of depends. He might still

Natalya
be dying at the end of the movie.

Sean
Really, and so the animatronics grab grab after and start dragging him but now the whole place is falling apart for some reason. Oh no, no

Mason
like the spirits are.

Sean
It gets because it's implied that the spirits have general control over the building. That's why the doors lock and open. lights turn on and off and stuff.

Mason
So um, while escaping, Mike and Abby grabbed Vanessa, who's still alive somehow. And then they managed to finally escape Five Nights at Freddy's survive not yet. Not yet.

Natalya
The song doesn't play yet.

Mason
Those come later.

Natalya
The end of the movie after that is just Abby's more well adjusted now and she has friends and they have a better relationship. And Jamie stuff, but then to instead dad Vanessa's in the hospital. We dress that but we assume she's that and we're happy about it. Yeah, I

Sean
can see. Maybe she'll always be back or whatever. They'll

Mason
always come back They

Natalya
just like the last scene is just before the Spring Trap suit, kind of like twitching. Isn't there like an animatronic looking at him? Just,

Mason
um, it was I think it was called on Friday, who essentially does like the jigsaw game over?

Natalya
Oh yeah, that's really funny.

Sean
Because like afterwards like reaching out, like, helped me, and then Golden Freddy's like no.

Mason
And that's the end of the

Natalya
movie and then fundamental Fridays by the living to start playing, which also made the theater we won't go crazy.

Mason
And then there was another final little scene. Midway through the credits, where there's another scene where we get the final Balloon Boy jumpscare of the movie. I love Balloon Boy in this movie, love and hate him. He's so funny. Like is like Steven little phase. Adorable. I like the weather just like turn him around whenever he jumps.

Sean
I will say someone who hasn't. Again for the 1,000th time who hasn't really seen anything about or played any of the games. I didn't really get it. Like I get the jumpscares like it was scary at first, but like, the second or third time around. It's like it's just a little guy. Yeah.

Natalya
What? Are you happy to see him? Yeah, I

Mason
would like to know. I think there's maybe some exception out there. There is one answer. Insecurity bridge, but I don't really count that. Balloon Boy is the only animatronic who does not jump scare you in the games. He just kind of stands in your office and laughs and then Foxy is the one who jumps scares you. Oh,

Sean
that's that's so funny, because I don't think there was a single other jumpscare in this movie. Yeah, there was

Mason
like foxy running towards the camera. But I saw jumpscare he wasn't like yelling. No,

Sean
he also wasn't just like, oh,

Natalya
yeah, this wasn't a very like jumpscare heavy movie, not online was very surprised for which

Mason
I am. I'm glad to be honest. Because like, I just don't like jumpscares we probably already talked about those. But I was going into this expecting there to be a lot of them. And there really wasn't no, I'm certainly not gonna complain about

Sean
No, I feel like I mean, if you wanted to experience finance with jumpscares just played the games. Yeah,

Natalya
like that's like definitely like a way that like they like transformed the medium with the story that they're telling us by like, not including all the jumpscares even though is like the big draw of the games. I feel like that's what people

Sean
came in expecting. And some of the critics, you know, at least some of the audience critics are like, that's what we wanted. But But

Natalya
are you just complaining because it isn't their price,

Sean
people wanted to find something to complain about that I

Natalya
think that this movie did so much to pay tribute to the original games. And like, transformed it into a movie that like it has enough like faithfulness to the source while also like adapting the necessary things to be an actual movie.

Mason
Because they they naturally had a cut out so much stuff. But I feel like they made a competent enough story, considering they had several, several, several years worth of material to work off of the first game come out in 2014. Right?

Sean
The peak of human civilization. Yeah. 2014. So

Mason
we're pushing a decade of this wow, that they had to condense down into one movie. I think they did a fairly good job of I agree.

Sean
I will bring up kind of a an issue I had with it with just the movie in general was a struggle to find Africans motivation. I know some, you know, some horror characters are just, they're evil. They're bad people. They just do bad things. But he's shown so little that I struggled to even see that in him. Because he just seems like a bad dude. And like, I don't know, maybe maybe I'm reading too much into it. But I expected more,

Natalya
I can see how you see that based on like, not like having participated much with a war at all. Um, and like, the lore is so messy anyway, like, he doesn't have an initial motive at any like, like, slowly gets one and they kind of like give like a few reasons. That's why I'm really hoping that sequels go more into it to like better develop him as a character. Because I think, honestly, I think it'd be like really interesting to like, see, like his career through a movie. Yeah, yeah. I mean, Matthew Lillard might be too old now to like, be able to play like a younger, William Afton Edelman,

Sean
send them out there.

Mason
them, they do have a lot of like, I guess kind of within the games, if you pay attention to the lore, there's only so sympathetic, you can be towards the child harder. But he is at least given, like some reasoning behind it. Whereas in the movie, he's kind of just like that, which is kind of a critique that I can level against. But if you were to go into really any modicum of his lore from the games, it would take up the entire runtime. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So I think just for the purposes of the story, they had to make a generic bad guy.

Natalya
And like the main villains of it isn't William Afton it's the animatronics like that's what people are there for. Even though I feel like purple guy has given like so much fondness by the community probably because he just the purple little guy. Yeah. And like his violence in the games is like eight bed.

Sean
Yeah, so it's given a lot less gravity. Yeah, and then

Natalya
also now him being played by Matthew Lillard horror icon Scooby

Sean
Doo.

Mason
Shaggy known for his very his one only iconic role that really broke him into the horse and Shaggy.

Sean
Especially for you know, a lot of people who grew up around the time when the those Scooby Doo movies came out. I have a certain place in my heart for Matthew Lillard. So seeing him as like, just bad dude, that I could not empathize with it all. I almost wanted to, because I was like, Lillard he's raggy like I was what row

Natalya
I killed those five Yeah,

Mason
that's you saw what happened to Sparky?

Sean
I was going to be Markiplier not Sparky. Um,

Natalya
I also have one critique. Okay, this one isn't like much into like the like movie making quality, but I feel like Freddy is like the lamest of the animatronic.

Mason
I'm gonna be entirely honest. He's always been the lamest. No,

Natalya
I mean, okay, maybe, but like, he's the he's the big guy.

Mason
Red bear is like the bite dude. So he's got that to him. But like, Fred, he's kind of just the mascot, but no, but

Natalya
like in the first game, like when you run out of power, Freddie is the one that gets you like she's like such like, he isn't like the MC he isn't like the main one that will usually like come attack you but like, I don't know I still feel he like he's like the big guy. He's the main one

Sean
I definitely expected much more than I'm like he did like chomp

Natalya
Max and half like that was pretty cool. But like besides that I felt like his presence like wasn't he wasn't given enough presence and like enough like

Mason
I can only assume that the reliance on the cupcake to do a lot of things Yeah, there

Natalya
is so much

Sean
in the cookies not even like a real animal. Yeah, Ronnie

Mason
probably for that reason. Because like the um the animatronics and this were all practical, which I have to immediately commend except

Sean
for the cupcake which is a little frustrating Well, obviously it is most the time but like when it's flying through the air Yeah, for no reason. It's not

Mason
the the animatronics in this were made by the Jim Henson Company. Yes. So that does mean that Kermit Yoda and Freddy are all cousins.

Sean
Yeah. So yeah, the the puppets they look awesome.

Mason
Like, just kind of going into this movie. Because this was like, in the works for God knows how long I'm gonna say since 2016. Maybe a little bit later on than that. But um, I was always the most concerned about what are they going to do about the animatronics? Because they can't just have like guys in suits the entire time, which they did at some points, but I at no point can I really tell but I think they really knocked it out of the park with

Natalya
it. They look very good. And they look i They're like perfect for like, capturing like the unnerving. Like nature of the animatronics. Yeah,

Mason
they don't go too far into some animatronic designs that I've seen.

Natalya
Like the later games especially Yeah, I

Mason
could see these being mascots. They're not like horror things pretending to be mascots. I could see these being like the kind of strange mascots at a children's restaurant. Yeah,

Natalya
kinda like slightly scars you as a child, so to kind

Sean
of go She's a freak, she's got teeth, and that's horrible. She's the

Natalya
scariest one. Even though like the cupcake and Foxy do like way more of like the like act Trouble, like, attacking and like socking type stuff. Kind of like being like the biggest like, I don't know, hunters in it,

Sean
I think probably the cause of Freddie and Bonnie and she gets kind of like lack of, you know, Joey

Natalya
like has like kind of like two things on her though. Like that first one where she like kind of like launched the cupcake and then also nearly putting Abby in the suit. Yeah,

Sean
but like it's really good. They don't have anything on their bodies that is necessarily deadly except their mouths. Oh, yeah. I feel like it'd be difficult shots to do. There's only so much you can do with that. Yeah, we kind of repetitive but also we did see the cupcake like, chow down on Apple. Like,

Natalya
I think it would have been cool if like, maybe replace some of the cupcakes action with like, one or the other animatronics or like, I don't know, maybe it's because like they cut away from and like, it didn't feel like Freddy was really doing like the like, enticing and like action here just kind of standing there. So like, I don't know, I think Freddy could have had more presence than he did.

Mason
I guess now it's my turn to levy a critique.

Natalya
If you have any. This is a perfect movie for you to have

Mason
kind of like hit the nail on the head about the only real things I have to complain about here. But other than that I really enjoyed this movie is a good time. Sittard because it was definitely made for fans kind of like you said earlier Sean there were a lot of subtle references are Sparky the dog was barking the dog is Sparky the dog is a fan edit and kind of a hoax that was around about a secret. I guess technically six animatronic in the first game, Sparky the dog. And there was an image that floated around. And he was in the background of the maintenance room in this which I loved. There were like, references to Dream Theory. Like I mentioned, there was something from naff world, like the Chica rainbow on the uniforms of the ice cream people at the like very beginning. Oh, that was like, super, super beginning. Yeah, there were so many references that I caught on a first and second viewing that made it extremely fun to watch as a fan. And I guess Shawn could kind of give us like an indication of what it was like going into this completely blind to the franchise other than like a few things.

Sean
Yeah, I I will say it definitely felt very referential to other pieces of media and I absolutely understand that. So having, you know, trying to ignore all of those pieces, it's like, it follows a lot of fairly basic core tropes. So like as a horror movie. pretty okay. As a finance movie. pretty okay.

Mason
I will give it fun and often

Sean
many fast billion dollars.

Mason
We're never like, I guess we're never going to directly recommend or not recommend a movie. You've you've made it through an entire episode. You can make your own judgments. But this this movie is a very good time. It It is fun.

Sean
I just feel like it's it's good enough. It's all that it needed to be. If you're coming

Mason
into a Five Nights at Freddy's movie expecting like high cinema expecting

Natalya
like hereditary that's on you. Yeah.

Sean
And I think that's why I enjoyed it because I came in going this is a this is a video game movie. Yeah, about there's only so good Tronic animals. Yeah. And like

Mason
I did really well. They did really well. All things considered, even though it took God knows how long to come out. Yeah, and Markiplier wasn't in it.

Natalya
Yeah, actually negative $1 billion no Markiplier plus

Mason
one festival and because he I feel like you'll be in school.

Natalya
I hope I hope so. Maybe he'll like finished like making his movie. And then he'll be open for the future.

Sean
On the last episode I did this little thing where I said how many popcorn kernels at a 10 Would you say this is but for this I feel like popcorn kernels aren't very effective. I think how many murder cupcakes out of 10 Would would you rate this

Mason
as a film? Six murder cupcakes as of now film nine murder.

Sean
Okay, well,

Natalya
if I'm gonna be a critic and also reflective of how many of those murder cupcakes like we saw in the movie, I'd say for murder cupcakes out of 10 but like for Being a fanatic movie, and for having Josh Hutcherson in it and Matthew Lillard and Matthew Lillard, but like, I don't know, I feel like because like, I'm not as old as Matthew Lillard is like I have to aim for, like my age range. Fair. Um, I don't know, like a nine or a 10 murder cupcakes. Wow, it's really good at being a fanatic movie. Yeah,

Mason
there was. I don't exactly remember because we recorded it a long time ago, there's a good chance that we're writing this higher than we

Sean
I edited this recently, you are reading it all way higher, because we read it like an eighth. I've

Natalya
seen finance three times now. Yeah,

Mason
I again, still firmly believe it's not a particularly good movie. It's a very fun movie.

Sean
Yeah. And that's all I mean, that's all I need to be as as a film if I want to be, you know, that guy. Give like a six, six and a half

Mason
to six to how

Sean
fun it is, like give it an EIGHT. I say go watch. Actually, I can't recommend that.

Natalya
Can we are on the radio. This is just a podcast. We're allowed to Yeah, I'm gonna do stuff

Sean
free peacock account and just go watch it on that. So you don't have to spend any money. It's like a trial. Yeah.

Mason
So you will not be one of those fats.

Natalya
No, and you don't need to be because it has enough money. You

Sean
enjoy our content. So you probably want to go go watch the $5 billion

Natalya
Well, thank you all for listening to our podcast on finance at Friday's This was so fun to do. And stuff under rewatch. I don't think we have any ideas for our next episode. But stay tuned. Hopefully it'll be coming out soon. We probably won't

Mason
stick to them even if we do have Yeah, we're

Sean
liars. And with that, my favorite people. We must wish you a good night. A good day. A good Freddy Fazbear.

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