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John:Ever wondered how you could turn your side hustle into a full time gig and spend more time together?
Vikki:Hi. I'm Vicky, a number one best selling author.
John:And I'm John, a retired Los Angeles police officer. Welcome to Dig the Well, where we help couples navigate the world of business.
Vikki:We've been married for 30 5 years, and because we built a successful side business, John retired 9 years earlier than he originally planned from the Los Angeles police department after 25 years on the job. Now we spend more time together, and we want to help couples like you do the same.
John:Join us as we help you overcome common obstacles, and we show you how to make extra income without sacrificing family time.
Vikki:Ready to dig deep and build your well? Let's get started. Hello. Hello. So excited to have you with us on dig the well.
Vikki:We have a very special guest on this episode, our very own firstborn daughter. Well, firstborn, and she's our daughter, Misa Downey. Yay. Welcome, Misa. How are you?
Misa Henry:I'm good. Thank you for having me. I'm excited to be on here with you guys and support your podcast.
John:Thanks.
Vikki:Thanks. We're so glad you said yes. Yeah.
Misa Henry:Absolutely. Yeah.
Vikki:So, we're gonna get into some questions for Misa, but I was gonna give a tiny bit about her, because she's a humble person. I'm thinking she probably wouldn't wanna talk about herself. But, so she went to high school, was a valedictorian, and, then went on to UCLA and now is, in medical device sales, doing very well, is, I don't know if most of you know, what that means. If you're a 1099 employee or not an employee it's not an employee. Sorry.
Vikki:1099 individual. Right? You're an independent contractor, and that is very much having your own business. That is your having your own business. And, also, she has other businesses along on the side as well, always has, since as long as I can remember, and we're excited to have her on here because, you know, this episode, this podcast is all about, business, entrepreneurship, and marriage and family and all the things.
Vikki:So we're excited you're here again once again, miss. So, dad is yeah. Dad's gonna hit you with the first question.
John:Alright. So the first question here is, what is it what was it like growing up as the firstborn in a family of entrepreneurs, And how has that influenced your own goals?
Misa Henry:Yeah. I love that question because I think a lot of people don't come from a family of entrepreneurs. So it's a little bit foreign to a lot of people nowadays. I think that's changed a little bit with social media. But for me growing up in that kind of environment, what you guys modeled was a lot of time freedom and a lot of, I mean, financial freedom too.
Misa Henry:But as a child, what you notice is that your parents are always around. So then as I went into the workplace, obviously, I was realistic that, you know, you have to work for a boss at some point or most people do. But that I never wanted that to be my end goal. And so it's interesting because I always just had that mindset. I think I didn't notice that other people didn't have that mindset until I was much older, probably after college, when I realized that some people really did love to just clock in and clock out.
Misa Henry:And I really hated to clock in and clock out. And I really wanted to not have someone telling me when I could go on a vacation or how long I could go on a vacation or if I could add an extra day to a family trip. So I think that was definitely something that you guys modeled. And that's something that I picked up on probably without realizing it until I was old enough to, like, see that in the workplace.
John:Yeah. Yeah. That's a good point. Because I think a lot of people don't realize that what they do in their kids watch that they see that from an early age, and it really molds them and affects their their lives. And, we've always thought that that was important that you guys saw us as what you just said, being entrepreneurs, being kind of in charge of our own our own destiny, so to speak.
John:And, they can see that it has influenced you, which is great because it makes you almost unhirable.
Misa Henry:Exactly. Exactly. You start to see what you want. And then you really fine tune what you'll accept out there. And there's certain things that I just even getting into medical device sales, as you mentioned, I started that a little bit later in life compared to a lot of people starting other careers.
Misa Henry:It wasn't straight out of college. It was 10 years later about. And even with that, I was looking at my options saying, nope. I don't want that. Nope.
Misa Henry:I don't want that. And it's funny because I've actually seen people who did accept certain roles of those, and it it's not to say one's better than the other, but people that accepted some of those roles that have not loved the environment didn't love that w two employee feel where, hey. You gotta do this training. You have to do this. You have to do that.
Misa Henry:You're always on their time. And I've talked to other competitive reps that I work with in the in my territory, And they've said, like, hey, do you have to have this or that? And I'm like, no. I set my schedule. There's certain things we all have to do and get done, but I get to choose how I get those done.
John:Yeah. Love it. That's important. That's so important. And that's one of the reasons why we started this podcast was to show people that they do have options.
John:Even if you are a w two employee and you have a boss and you have a conventional job, doesn't mean that you don't have other options available to you, doesn't mean that you have to quit your job by all means. That that's not part of it. But at least it gives you an option to do something else on your own, which is now all you do, basically. It's cool that you did it from the very beginning.
Vikki:Yeah. Exactly. Love it. Love it. We bred unemployability into you.
Vikki:I tell people I'm unemployable.
Misa Henry:It's kind of funny because I learned that quickly at the first big job I had that I didn't appreciate when I mean, obviously, I wasn't like a spoiled rotten child, so I understood, you know, my role. But I just really didn't like that lack of flexibility that was like, nope. Your time off was approved for this. You cannot extend it even one day. And I'm like, really?
Misa Henry:Wow. Like, that's crazy. Even though I have that time, I had accrued time. But Right. They just it's it's so structured.
Misa Henry:It's so cut and dry, and that's not what you guys modeled. You guys modeled was like, oh, okay. Well, guess what? We still can do this, and the business is okay. And this is okay because someone else is running this, and you just make it work.
Vikki:Yeah. Right?
Misa Henry:And Life life is that. You know? Like, stuff does come up.
Vikki:Yeah. Let's touch on that, and it's nothing bad about the company. It was Sprinkles Cupcake is what you're referring to. Cupcakes. Right?
Vikki:You're referring to your manager. And how about I remember the times you either texting or calling me, letting me know I'm having to go in at 3 in the morning because the baker is calling in sick or something. Right? You had all of that on top of all the things you just talked about. Right?
Misa Henry:Right. Exactly. Exactly. And I was salaried, so I was the only salaried person at that location at the time. So I didn't really have any other backup help.
Misa Henry:So, you know, if anyone I managed the kitchen. I managed the front of house, back of house, and the managers. So Right. It was and and, unfortunately, at that time, I was the only salaried person who was a new location, and they hadn't hired an assistant manager for me. So what that meant was I was the only one that could pick up the slack if other people called out.
Misa Henry:And sometimes, you know, someone else you know, if you had, let's say, somebody out front, you can call somebody else in on their day off. Maybe they'll come in, but they don't have to. Again, they're an employee, so they're allowed to not have to come in. They're not they don't have to show up. It wasn't their scheduled shift, but I do.
Misa Henry:Right. Sometimes that meant, like, a 14 hour day. And I remember we had a large catering event one time, and I was literally, like, sleeping with the cupcakes because I needed a break. And we had to store cupcake, and I'm trying to just get a break where I can because I was there all day helping out.
John:Yeah. Yeah. Not anymore.
Vikki:I can see why you wanted to break free from that. Yeah. And that is what this podcast is all about. Alright. I get to ask an a question.
Vikki:How, now that you're newly married, let's talk about that. Just married at in in June. How exciting. How do you envision balancing family life with running your own business in the future? I know we've talked about that.
Vikki:Mhmm.
Misa Henry:Yeah. I think I take a lot of tips from you. Specifically, you mom, obviously. And I think that a business there's so many things. So a business can be extremely difficult, like more work, in fact, and something that sometimes you caution people just so that they're aware.
Misa Henry:You know? Like, if you own your own business, you are responsible for the success of it. So that means you have to be driven. You have to be committed to it. There has to be kind of no other option in your mind.
Misa Henry:You know, maybe there's you have something else. Maybe you work a regular job on the side, but you're committed to making this successful. So I think that can be a lot on your shoulders, but on the flip side, you can then create the life that you want. So if you were like for me, don't have kids yet, want to have kids, want to have a family. So what was modeled was exactly that.
Misa Henry:You know, you were home with us. You took care of us. You were there all the time, but then you also had business on the side or other jobs on the side and then a business on the side, which allowed you that freedom allowed you to be around the kids, us, John, and I all the time. So that's what I want. That's what I'm looking to create is something that especially now while I don't have kids, something that I can create now, lay the groundwork, lay the foundation, work really hard, not to say you won't later, but your hands might be pretty full.
Misa Henry:Yeah. Literally and figuratively. So but I think that's something great about business ownership being an entrepreneur is that you are able to do that. You're not at somebody else's back in call and especially with a lot of businesses out there, where you're not necessarily tied to a physical location or going in somewhere. One of the other businesses that I have that you guys also share in that we don't have to show up to a physical location to be success.
Misa Henry:So that's something that's huge too. You know, I kind of have both where I have the device sales where I do have to show up at times in order to, you know, make money, make that successful, but then also something on the side too where I don't. And I think that lends well to a family, especially for
Vikki:a mom
John:Yes.
Misa Henry:Who in the beginning is the one, you know, that has more demand maybe on them.
Vikki:Right. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah.
Vikki:Love all of that. And, yeah, like prestige, we talked about prestige in a previous episode. So if you haven't watched that, listen to it, go back and watch one of our first five episodes. But, it's it was a lot of work. We were tied to it.
Vikki:And when we found a different business where, like you just said, miss, we don't have to go in. We don't have a physical location. It basically runs itself, it with its the website and the ship the company shipping direct to the consumer, us not having to do that or inventory everything. It's it's amazing. So you do have to pick the right business, and I'm excited for you to start your family.
Vikki:So
John:That's part of the family right there in the background.
Vikki:Yeah. We're here in little tanky, and that's okay. That's what's so cool. He wants to take care of it. Too.
Vikki:Yeah. Tanks are Misa's little white Shiba Inu, and he's he's listening and paying attention.
Misa Henry:Yeah. Trying to answer right now.
Vikki:Oh, yeah. Oh, there
John:he goes. Yeah. And some of these questions are gonna you you've answered or you've touched on a lot of different points on some of the questions that we've had, that we wanted to ask you. So it's gonna sound a little bit redundant, but here's one. What are some key lessons you've taken from watching us navigate business challenges that you would that you apply?
John:Let me read that again. What are some key lessons you've taken from watching us navigate business challenges that you plan to apply to your own life and business?
Misa Henry:Yeah. That's a good one. The biggest one, I think, I would say is the entrepreneur roller coaster as we call it, which is just the ups and downs of business. And that's something that luckily again, I feel super fortunate to have had you guys lead the way for me and create this, I wouldn't say expectation, but just for me, it was without any kind of pressure, though. It was just like, no.
Misa Henry:That's what I'm going for. That's the kind of life I wanna create. But I also had the benefit of seeing the ins and outs through you guys, which I think is definitely something new entrepreneurs who have maybe family who've only been employees aren't really aware of. And what I mean by entrepreneur roller coaster is just month to month, there can be changes, fluctuations in business. Sometimes you have a great month.
Misa Henry:Sometimes you don't have a great month. Sometimes outside sources come in and affect you, that you really can't plan for. For me, an example in medical devices was COVID. And a lot of I work in the operating room, so I'm in surgery, and I do elective procedures, specifically total joint replacement. So when that all happened, nobody could plan for that, and elective procedures were basically cut.
Misa Henry:It it wasn't a necessary thing. It was something people they were trying to protect people, so we don't need extra people in the OR, yada yada yada. But what that led to was obviously a dip in income that wasn't planned for. So I think that's a huge lesson and something that could really rock you if you aren't prepared for that. And, and so that's something I will definitely take into the future.
Misa Henry:And, at least with my business, you and I think most businesses this way, you see kind of how you did that month before you actually receive the income for the month, so you're able to plan. So another lesson is just planning. Being, having that forethought to not just, oh, yay. I'm making this. I'm making that or whatever.
Misa Henry:I mean, if you have a great month, you're feeling great. You you maybe wanna celebrate, but just preparing for those times where it might not be. And hopefully, that's not the case. Hopefully, all you business owners out there are just doing great, but the reality is that we're gonna probably have slumps. And it doesn't necessarily mean things are horrible.
Misa Henry:It's just a lower month. So I think that's something. And then, along with the planning. And the other thing I was going to say, and now I've forgotten it completely.
Vikki:That's okay. Come back
Misa Henry:to me as we keep talking.
Vikki:Yeah. Yeah.
John:Yeah. You brought up some good
Vikki:The entrepreneur Yeah.
John:You brought up some good points.
Vikki:Yeah. The entrepreneur roller coaster is definitely a real deal. Yeah. And I'm so glad you learned that because it's so true. I think a lot of entrepreneurs quit the minute they have a failure or a dip in revenue or what what have you.
Vikki:They're like, I'm out, you know, because they don't realize there's it's gonna be peaks and valleys the whole time. It's just part of
John:it. That's that's kind of a challenge that we've had with the some of the people that we've coached in in their own business from home and running their own business from home. I think that they didn't have an example of an entrepreneur in their family. Their parents, were w two employees. And I don't think they and they've never owned their own business before, and they don't really fully understand that it's not just a straight line.
John:It's ups and downs, peaks and valleys, and you have to kinda roll with it, like you said. And, you can't just, you know, you can't just quit when you're in a valley. In fact, that's the time to double down and really, really dig in and work because you're gonna hit that next peak.
Vikki:Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Alright. What it was.
Vikki:Good.
Misa Henry:Yeah. Sorry.
Vikki:Yeah. Yeah. I know. Tell us.
Misa Henry:And it's also what I was gonna say on the entrepreneur roller coaster. Sometimes it's your mental roller coaster. It's not just finances. It's not just income or money driven. You know, you could have a really bad day because somebody said something to you or, you know, something was misconstrued or whatever it is depending on if you're a product or service, But everyone out there knows what I'm talking about where it's just it's mental.
Misa Henry:It's it's not even your business could be exactly the same or doing even really great. And you could just have a bad mental day, and you're like, man, why do I do this? Do I really wanna do this? I'm no good at this. And then you just have to pick yourself up.
Misa Henry:Like, we're all allowed to have those thoughts and they're real. Like, they are really real. And it happens. Even when you love what you do, it happens. And then you just pick yourself up, and you have a bigger goal, and you have your vision board or whatever it is on your wall, and then it reminds you, like, no.
Misa Henry:This is why I'm doing this. And then the other thing that I was going to say, a learning lesson, taxes. That that fun thing that nobody probably wants to talk about, me specifically, because I just feel stressed usually. But, dad taught me to do my own taxes, so I took that on by myself earlier when I was a w two employee, which is a lot more simple. And, just being a business owner, that's also something I was gonna say that I think people sometimes aren't prepared for, especially if you are 1099 or if you have an LLC, s corp, anything like that.
Misa Henry:There's a lot more to it, and so I think it can be scary and daunting. I even know people looking to work in the device company that I work with, a lot of times they hear that 10.99, and they kind of are like, oh, I'm a little hesitant. I don't know what that means. I don't know what that looks like. How do you get paid?
Misa Henry:What about this? But I think a lot of people don't think about taxes. And it's, again, it's not that subject that anyone probably really wants to talk about, but something that you guys taught me that all that I appreciated and have taken forward and and continue to as as my business grows.
Vikki:That's awesome. That's so good to hear. Yeah. Definitely. I talked to so many people that have no clue about taxes whatsoever, and it's it's amazing.
Vikki:They're just
John:so used to having it withheld from their paycheck
Misa Henry:Exactly. That
John:they're not planning ahead, and you gotta pay taxes. I mean, that's the world we live in, and you have to plan for it if you're 1099.
Vikki:Right. And the smart thing is to have your own business. Even if your w two, have your own business because it unlocks over 300 tax, you know, code the code for entrepreneurs that is gonna help you. So see your tax professional about that. We're not giving you advice, but definitely.
Vikki:Yeah. So, okay. I love this one since you are, as I mentioned earlier, a new newly married. You guys are going to have kids someday. So looking into the future, you've always said you want to stay home with your future kids.
Vikki:How does owning your own business play into making that dream a reality?
Misa Henry:Yeah. I think this one kind of piggybacks or expands on a couple of questions ago, but especially a business where I can run it from a computer or my phone, etcetera, I mean, that just makes it so much easier. I have girlfriends who have actually kind of shifted in their career after they've had kids who thought, I'm gonna go back to work. I'm not that stay at home mom. Love them.
Misa Henry:I can't do it. It was their mindset. Like, I just I need to go in. I need to go to like, actually go physically somewhere else, and they've actually done the complete opposite. Change their business so that they can work online and just have their office at home.
Misa Henry:So they're staying home with the kids. Maybe they have help that comes in, so they have that time to work and everything because, obviously, it is still a lot on your hands and you're not able, especially in the newborn, even taught I mean, it's just really a lot at any time. But I think, again, there's not a lot of jobs where if you are a working a true job as an employee, you don't get to just say to your boss, hey. I'm actually gonna go home and pick up my kid, or I'm gonna leave work now and go take my kid over here. Like, you don't get to do that, but business ownership is perfect for that.
Misa Henry:And so that's what I see for my future, a flexible schedule. Again, I think it's just all about flexibility. And, really, the only way I see that you can have flexibility is by being a business owner.
Vikki:Love that. Yeah. Love that. Yeah.
John:That's true. Mhmm. It's absolutely true because, not a whole lot of employers will say, yeah. Go ahead and take off. Go go, hug your kid and then come back when you're when you're done with that.
John:And, that'd be nice. Uh-huh. Yeah. Okay. So next question.
John:What advice would you give to other young women who are newly married and looking to build a future where they can balance family and career?
Misa Henry:I think they were the advice I would give because everyone's a little different. And, again, like, some women are going to want to go back into an office, and that's just who they are. So I think the overarching thing I would say is really just digging down deep into the why for their family and kind of a vision statement, vision board for their family. And then they can really determine, okay. Do does that mean that I wanna have something on the side that gives me a little bit of time freedom, but I also still get to be me and go to this career that maybe they've established?
Misa Henry:Or does that mean kind of like the other friend I was talking about where it's kind of a total overhaul and total change in direction of, actually, I wanna go a 100% into business ownership and just pursue that so I can have complete time freedom? So I think, really, the biggest piece of advice would be just getting clear on what works for you and your family and what that looks like because everyone's a little bit different, and everyone's wants and needs and desires are slightly different as well.
Vikki:I love that. I love that answer because one thing that not a lot of people know, Misa and I have done a lot of talking about and asked for advice, and so I love that we actually asked you to give your advice here. But I also love that you talked about different types of people and everybody's different and their situation's different. And so, how do you feel about that, like, unasked for advice? I know this is totally
John:off off
Vikki:question, but, you know, what do you feel about somebody giving you unasked for advice?
Misa Henry:I think I don't like unasked for advice. I don't think anyone probably really does, but I know I've been guilty of doing it. So I have grace for anyone that does because usually it just comes from a good place. Like, you know, if your friends come into you with something and you catch yourself saying, well, I would do this. And then you realize, oh, they didn't really ask me what I would do.
Misa Henry:And sometimes, you know, they're just venting and they wanna talk and sometimes they do really want your advice. So I think I think we all don't love it. I think people are getting a lot better about catching themselves, and I tried to. And then just having grace for each other of just knowing your especially whoever you're talking to, it's usually your friends and family, and they just want the best for you. And then they can kinda dial it back and say, I'm so sorry.
Misa Henry:Like you said, did you want my advice?
Vikki:Yeah. That's been become my go to most of the time. I'm not perfect, but I'll say
Misa Henry:You're really good at that.
Vikki:I really try. I really try, but it's it's something I read in a personal development book. And, yeah, and it's glaring when you are aware of it, you know, not giving an ask for advice without asking if they want your advice first. It's glaring when somebody doesn't that you know, all the time because they clearly haven't gotten the memo. Right.
Vikki:People don't want it. But I agree. Grace. Definitely. Alright.
John:Alright. Next question. What's one lesson you learned from our entrepreneurial journey that you think will help you as you plan for your own future as a business owner and parent?
Misa Henry:Similar similar to a couple of things that I've shared, but I definitely think teamwork, and I think this applies to business owners or not, but specifically teamwork with your spouse. And that's something, you know, Shane and I have talked about a lot, and we both have completely different careers, you know, don't work together even in the businesses that I have. And all in all, though, in order to make anything work, even for me to be successful in in my businesses, I have to have his support in whatever that looks like. So I think what you guys really modeled for me was teamwork. And you guys originally started off working together in the business that you had with Prestige, you know, and then dad went on to become a police officer and mom stayed home and then eventually grew other businesses and now have come back together working together again.
Misa Henry:But the theme running through all of that is teamwork. And I think that, unfortunately, isn't always the approach of couples, and I don't wanna, like, just blanketly say make any generalizations about couples. But I think teamwork is huge because you've gotta be on the same page about what you're doing and why you're doing it. Because, ultimately, whatever Shane's doing and whatever I'm doing is for the benefit of each other and our future family and what we wanna create. So I think that would be the biggest thing.
Misa Henry:I think that even goes into, like, not just like I was saying about business, but just marriage in general coming from the aspect of, like, we are a team. Like, it's not you against me if you're having a disagreement. It's like the 2 of us are sitting on this side of the table and our issue is on the other side of the table. So how are we going to address the issue, not add each other?
John:Yeah. Yeah.
Vikki:I love that you learned that or saw that in us. That's so cool.
John:And you and Shane do communicate well. So that's that's really nice to see.
Vikki:That is really awesome.
John:Yeah. We
Misa Henry:tried. It takes time.
John:Yeah. And I I've seen that, you know, all through my life, see people like guys that I've worked with and just people that we know. And like you're saying, husband and wife are they have their own careers. Nothing wrong with that, but they're going down that path, individually. Husband's working his career.
John:Wife's working her career. There's real no there's not really any teamwork or any communication, and it seems like they kind of lack that common goal. And I think that's what we love about what we do and that we can help people that have their own careers if they wanna build something that's a home based business, that helps pull them back together again and helps get them communicating and and finding those common goals.
Misa Henry:Yeah. Definitely. Love it. Exactly.
Vikki:Ride or die. Right? Me? Isn't that one? Yeah.
Vikki:We're each other's ride or die mate. Yeah. And that's you and Shane. I know you guys feel the same. Yeah.
Vikki:Okay. How has been how has being part of a police slash entrepreneur family? Because it it has been both. Like, we've always had a business alongside of the police family life, shaped your values, especially when it comes to starting a family and a business. Oh, and I think maybe the operative word is police because we've been talking a lot already about entrepreneurship.
Vikki:So yeah.
Misa Henry:Yeah. Definitely shaped my values. Right? Is that what you said?
Vikki:Yeah. Yeah.
John:Yep. Shaped your values.
Vikki:Yeah. Exactly. Values.
Misa Henry:I think definitely growing up in, like, a law enforcement household. There's a lot of, let's see. There's a lot of, like, people think that looks like a certain thing. So people usually think that looks like a really strict household and that, generally, it's the dad, not always. I mean, now there's a lot more female police officers, but, oh, your dad must be super strict and must this, this, this.
Misa Henry:And I think what, you guys and dad brought into our household, which I'll take into anything I do, is respect, trust, and integrity. So, you know, you guys always treated John and I, I feel like at whatever age. Obviously, there's times I don't remember. But I feel like you guys always treated us with respect, and you also trusted us. And so by doing that, we knew that.
Misa Henry:And so our biggest fear was disappointing you, was letting you down. It was not like, oh, I'm gonna get in trouble or this is gonna be my punishment or yada yada yada. Like, John and I chose our actions because the worst thing that we could have done was disappoint you because you had trusted us so much. So I think that's not very common out there. I think a lot of kids kind of operate just without any regard maybe.
Misa Henry:And it's not to say that, like, they're ill intentioned, but, you know, they're just like, hey. I'm gonna do this because I wanna do it. And they don't really think about how that might reflect
Vikki:Yeah.
Misa Henry:On their parents or, you know, what the consequences might be. It's like more impulsive, which is very typical of kids and teenagers. Like, there's not so much reasoning at that age, but I don't know. I really couldn't explain, like, exact things that were done except for you guys just trusted us. We didn't really have a lot of rules like everyone thought we did.
Misa Henry:Being in a police household, I think that's just, like, a misconception about
John:Yeah.
Misa Henry:Police because they enforce rules, but, you know, they also enforce rules that are generally known and and just expected for you to conduct yourself in society. So it's like, if you just do what you're supposed to do, you don't get in trouble. It's, like, pretty simple. So that Common sense. Exactly.
Misa Henry:That's just how you guys treated us. And I remember, like, people now think it's shocking because they they'll say something to you guys like, oh, your kids must have been crazy when they were teenagers or like, oh, this. And we had our little things and disagreements, and I'm sure when John and I and probably, like, especially me with mom was maybe harder to get along with, and it was more personality. But I didn't I don't think I really, like, acted out too much where a lot of the stories are like the teens, right? Like, oh, my gosh, your daughter at this age.
Misa Henry:Oh, and your son. And it was like, John and I kinda like didn't really do anything.
John:Yeah.
Misa Henry:But we didn't want to because it was just like we already knew in our heads. We're like, this is not even worth it. Like, anything that these, like, kids might be doing, it's not even worth it. So I don't know if that made us kind of more mature earlier on or what you wanna attribute that to. But, yeah, again, I think it was just the respect and the trust, which then created integrity and just built that within ourselves.
Misa Henry:So it was one of those things, like, if I'm doing this, then I'm out of integrity with who I am as a person. So, obviously, you don't understand that as a kid, but those are things that you figure out later on in life of why you may be acted a certain way. So that's just what I can say about that. And that's obviously something I would love to emulate with my kids and future. Yeah.
Misa Henry:Yeah.
John:Yeah. And I'm sure you will.
Vikki:Love it. Love it. I know. Because I remember we did instill trust in you guys, yeah, from early, early, just saying that whatever you do reflects on us. You know, we're trusting you.
Vikki:Please tell us the truth. Always, we'd rather have you tell us the truth, and it'd be something horrible than you you not tell us the truth, and that would break our trust forever. And you guys just took that to heart. Yeah.
John:Yeah.
Vikki:And then I remember you also telling them someday, and I think a lot of parents say this, but when there would be a fight or whatnot, someday, all you 2 will have is each other. So you better get along. But and I have talked to other families. Not everybody does that, though, but you guys took that to heart too because you're the best of friends to this day, the 2 of you. So it's pretty neat, and we have to thank our parents for that.
Vikki:Thank goodness we were both raised. We can't take all the credit because
John:we will.
Vikki:Because we were raised by very similar parents, yet not similar, but same values and beliefs. So I think we never thought about that, you know, on on teaching you guys that at all.
John:Yeah. For sure. We're on the same same sheet of music Yeah. And all that.
Vikki:That's really cool. That all of us. There's Tanki.
John:We're almost done, Tank. It's okay, buddy. Okay. So the next question is, how do you prioritize setting the foundation for your business now with the long term goal of staying home with your future kids in mind?
Vikki:Mhmm.
Misa Henry:Yeah. That's that one's great because it's, I think, really hard for again, talking about, like, planning and, not a lot of people think about what they're doing now to set themselves up. And that's something I mean, it just comes with just the way people kind of grow up, the way people go through even the school system, x y z work. There's a lot of procrastination out there. People don't wanna do the things now.
Misa Henry:As Jeff says, our CEO and founder of the other business that we have, like, mastering the mundane, doing those things now, the little simple easy things now that really compound over time and set your future self up, that, you know, not a lot of us are thinking about. So for me with wanting to have that time at home, wanting to be in my kids' lives and and there as often as I can, I'm working hard now to set that up. So it definitely still takes, though, a lot of what's the right word that I'm thinking of? I mean, again, preplanning, thinking ahead, a lot of discipline. That's what I was trying to specifically say.
Misa Henry:Because even now without kids, I on the weekends, okay, friends wanna do this. Friends wanna do that. On the weekdays, a lot of people wanna go out to happy hour. I love to go have a cocktail. And sometimes you have to actually say, like, no.
Misa Henry:I need to actually do this, work harder on my business, do something else that maybe is a sacrifice now, and they're just little things for the most part, you know, right now. But that's gonna set me up in order to have that consistent business kind of what we were talking about before. Business can fluctuate. If you're starting a new business, you don't generally just take off right away from the start. You know, you have to put a lot more work into it up front, generally speaking, in order to see that success.
Misa Henry:But when you do, you're so grateful that you did that at that time so that you could see the success later when maybe life is a little harder, when, God forbid, something happens, an accident, or you you do have kids, and now your hands are full and you're exhausted, and you actually don't have as much time to go work your business. So I think it's just having that in mind and reminding yourself, and we all need those reminders. Like, I definitely need them, and I'm not even a procrastinator. I'm the opposite. The way, the I don't know if they'll hear John's episode first or not, but my brother who's 1 year younger was a procrastinator, and and he would laugh at me saying that it's not like not demeaning or anything.
Misa Henry:That's just his personality. He just likes usually to wait till last minute, but he always gets everything done. And I'm like, it's on the calendar 4 weeks early, and I've got file folders and color coded, and that's probably, like, first born traits compared
Vikki:to the the second born.
Misa Henry:So true. Even I still have to, you know, remind myself to do those things because, yeah, nowadays, you know, if you've got free time, you wanna go to the beach and you wanna go hang out. And sometimes you have to commit a little bit more when you're a business owner, especially, in order to set yourself up for the time freedom that you're searching for. Otherwise, it's very similar to being an employee if you work your business like an employee. Then it Yeah.
Misa Henry:You will still be an employee of your business. Right. Or you can actually choose to be the CEO, the leader, the founder, whatever role you play, and have that freedom that you see you know, you've seen those large companies or small companies out there, but when they're treating it at that level, they get to reap the rewards. They get to be on the golf course. You know, they get to take the family vacation and and things like that.
Misa Henry:So that's who I wanna be or at least have the option to do that, and not have to be so tied or or maybe, like, desperate, if I'm not building it ahead of time.
John:Right. You know? Love it. Before we had you guys, and we were newly married and building our our brick and mortar business, which was really time consuming, but it was the same idea that deferred gratification. Right?
John:We would it's not that we didn't do things with friends, but we just didn't do things with friends all the time. It wasn't every weekend, like you said, every weeknight. And we just had that concept of deferred gratification. We knew and like you were saying, you wanna do that now when you have the have the opportunity to do it, for if tough times come later down the road, which is a whole idea of this podcast, which is dig the well. So you wanna dig the well before you need the water, and that's what we kinda did.
John:And if you do need it, you have it, or at least you're most of the way there. Because if you wait until you have a you have some tough times and you need that extra income or you need the extra time freedom to take care of, like, an ailing, parent or or family member, You have to start digging the well from that day. Yeah. It's gonna take some time to dig that well, and you may not reach the water before you actually could have used it.
Vikki:Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. That's a really great connection. So true.
Vikki:Yeah. And it's
Misa Henry:it's hard this day and age with social media and everything at our fingertips, and I think there's a lot of, I follow a couple of, like, scientists, like, on Instagram just because we have a lot more, again, at our fingertips. But you're able to learn a lot more, and they're doing a lot of studies on that in social media, even just online shopping, Amazon. Right? Like, you can order stuff and get it today. Like, same day shipping.
Misa Henry:All these companies out there, you see it in the retail space. Everything is same day shipping. And and some of that, it you do wonder what we're losing internally by being able to get whatever we want whenever we want it Yeah. Versus, you know, you used to kind of save up a lot more. Even if you had the money, it was like, well, I'm gonna wait a little bit longer, see if I really do want that.
Misa Henry:And you probably value it a bit more when you end up buying it or you end up saying, you know, actually, I don't really need that or it's not really worth it to me for for what I work to get there. And then sometimes it is, and then you got to look forward to it. And I think there are some study out there I just read that it's the anticipation of something, whatever it is. If if it's something physical or if it's a vacation, it was something crazy, the statistic that was, like, 80% or something is the anticipation. So if you're constantly just doing things, buying things, you're actually missing out on all of the actual, like, happiness and satisfaction that you feel, because you didn't get to do the anticipation of like planning the trip or planning that bag you're gonna buy what by the time you hit this goal, and it's on your door, it's on your mirror somewhere for you to see, and you think about it and you're like, oh my gosh.
Misa Henry:That's so exciting. I can't wait to do that for myself.
Vikki:And
Misa Henry:I think this this day and age, there's a lot less of that because people just buy it right now and it shows up tomorrow. And then and then they love it for probably a week, and then they don't treat it maybe as nicely if it's a thing, as they would have if they waited longer. I think that definitely ties into business because we're not I think what you see a lot is not people really planning ahead and doing those sacrifices because it kinda ties into that. It's sacrificing the satisfaction of buying it now. You know?
Misa Henry:So same thing. Sacrificing some of your time, maybe the fun stuff you would do with friends to in order to set yourself up or save money or whatever it is.
Vikki:Totally. Totally. Like and the whole appreciation thing, and this is kind of a funny, analogy, but didn't you recently, like, take your nails off Yeah. For some, like, basically delayed gratification? You know, I'll wait for that later.
Vikki:I don't know if I shared with you, but in one of the businesses we were building after Prestige, that was one of the things. I wanted to cut back on expenses, and I had set goals for myself. We were gonna reach a certain level. And when I hit that level, then I would put my nails back on, and I did it. And it made me work harder towards it towards that goal just for silly nails.
Vikki:But it's funny when you do that, it makes a huge difference. And then I was so proud of myself. So you're so right. You're robbing yourself from all that, you know, goal setting and satisfaction of a job well done and achieved. Yeah.
Vikki:So amazing. Play
Misa Henry:Yeah. Play little little games with yourself in order to and it it is motivating. I think everyone is kinda not everyone. Again, it's not generalizing, but a lot of people are so used to a certain type of living because it's shown to us on social media. Every girl out there has her nails done all the time, hair done, makeup, eyelashes, you know, like all kinds of crazy stuff that you're thinking, where's this money coming from?
Misa Henry:Like, the amount of upkeep on that. And so if that's not your goal, if that's your goal, cool. If that's not your goal, and maybe your goal is save for a house or something like that, you can make those small little little changes, yeah, sacrifices that will add up month over month. And then when you reach something, then you can celebrate, you know, another way. But it's interesting it's just interesting to see, like, culturally how things have shifted over the decades and what now is kind of like the norm.
Misa Henry:What that probably years years ago would just have been like, wow, that's a lot. That's a lot of stuff you're doing on a on a monthly basis.
Vikki:Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Alright. And I think we have one final question, and that is, that one.
Vikki:Right? What role do you see entrepreneurship playing in helping you and your husband build the life you both want?
Misa Henry:I mean, it's like the end game. Right? Like, that's the ultimate goal, I think. Again, because I've grown up with that, and the big thing is time freedom. Of course, financial freedom, but you could become financially free being an employee as well in a sense.
Misa Henry:You know, you can make very good money being an employee.
Vikki:Mhmm.
Misa Henry:There's tons of great jobs out there, lots of high paying jobs. So you could earn quite a bit of money, but you don't have your time. And so to me, the ultimate thing is time, because you can't really put a price on your time, and that will go. And we all don't know how long we have here, and it sounds grim, but it's just the reality of things. And it's not to say, like, you're worried.
Misa Henry:You know? It's just you're seeing life each day as making the most of it, and it's coming from that perspective of just making the most of all your time. And so entrepreneurship is to me, like, the ultimate end goal, especially for Shane and I and as a family. And and we've even talked about what that could look like in the future. And if that involves both of us, growing, you know, and he and I have even talked about way in the future of this possible business or that, you know, dreaming really big, things that are not happening right now or couldn't even maybe be the next step, but way in the future.
Misa Henry:And him saying he's super excited, and he's like, hey. I could help you with that, and I can run this. And he also sees the benefit of us both working together in that sense, like having different roles, but contributing to the same end goal and just really I mean, he's an attorney, so he is he is, and he works for the government. So he is on their, you know, hour dime, whatever you wanna call it. But
John:He's a little bit of them.
Misa Henry:And then some and then some because he stays quite a bit, you know, having to get whatever it is done. So he's seen that side of things too. And, obviously, for sustainability of a family, you're gonna have to have something change. Right now, it's okay. You know?
Misa Henry:But that obviously wouldn't be the future. So we both Right. Definitely see entrepreneurship as, like, our answer Yeah.
Vikki:Of it.
John:And, you know, you're right. There's a lot of jobs, a lot of, jobs where you can make good money and you can live comfortably. And you can and your entire family can live very comfortably on that income. But like you said, what you don't have is time freedom or at least true time freedom. And I'll tell you, I was thinking, if for anyone is you know, if you ever go to the point where you're get to the point where you're on your deathbed, right, when you look back on your life, I really think that people are gonna think, gosh, I wish I had more time, right, to do the things that I really love to do and to do it with the people that I love.
John:I don't think anyone's gonna say, you know, they'll say things like, gosh, I wish I'd spent more time with the kids or wish I'd gone skydiving or or spent more time traveling. I don't think anyone would look back and think, gosh, I wish I just worked more over time. You know, I wish I just done that. So you're right. And and that's one thing
Misa Henry:I'm sorry.
Vikki:No. Go ahead.
Misa Henry:No. There I mean, I've heard tons of interviews like that where they've interviewed someone who maybe is kinda getting to the end of their life and reflecting on their life and or they've lost a loved one and and what would they do differently or the same or what did they wish they had done. And I've seen a lot that have lost a loved one that says, I wish I told them I love you more because they just felt like they didn't say it enough. And now that they're not here, they're like, I could I could have said it every single day or whatever it is, you know Yeah. For that person.
Misa Henry:But it's always around it's pretty much always around family and probably, like, some travel or, you know, I wish I had done that trip that I wanted to do or, like you said, experiences, but no one says they wish they worked more. And and nobody says they're they were worried about what title they had or what their GPA, what, was in college. Like, all those things that, you know, at the time when you're going through it, it's so important to you, but you just don't have enough life experience to see what actually is important, and that's okay. And that's the time you're at. But, ultimately, down the line, it's none of that stuff.
Misa Henry:It's none of the, like, little achievements like the check boxes and the the things like that. It's it's what did you create? How did you make people feel? And and how much time did you you spend with them?
John:Yeah. And I it it it kills me when I see people that are just they're they're so into working, working, working, working, working overtime, picking up every overtime shift they possibly can. And I think someday you're gonna realize that that's probably not the best thing for you and your family. But what are you gonna do now? And again, it's that unasked for advice.
John:I'm not gonna say, hey, buddy, stop. You're, you know, you're going down the wrong path. That's their path, and they chose their path.
Vikki:And Hopefully, the list of this podcast
John:Yeah. Make a decision. And I wish the best for them. I just don't think that that's that's what they I don't think that that's the important part of the whole show. Okay.
John:So we're gonna ask you one more question and then turn you loose. And the last question is, if you could give one piece of advice to someone growing up in an entrepreneurial family, what would it be?
Misa Henry:So get all in, you know, be a sponge. Because, again, like, you don't realize it when you're when you're a kid. You know? You don't realize it necessarily. And, hopefully, some that a person in that situation is really taking in those lessons in their brains holding on to every little bit because kids are sponges just in general.
Misa Henry:So hopefully that is what it is, but I would say definitely it's not like you should do this or you should do that or don't do this because people some people will find their path along the way, but it's just really, like, soak everything up because there's so many learning lessons that kind of if you just open your eyes and ears, and, you know, actually respect and love your parents, you can learn so much from them without even maybe realizing that you're learning.
Vikki:Love it. Soak it all in. Soak it all in.
John:There's a lot of great stuff that you, that you were talking about here, Misa. It's kinda cool because as much as we know you, you're my little peanut. As much as we know our little peanut
Vikki:And my angel. Yeah. That's my angel.
John:But we've learned so much more. I mean, there are so many things that you brought up that it was like, wow. That's really good.
Vikki:I love it. I love it. And if you love hearing and maybe wanting to learn more about Misa, give us your handle on Instagram, Misa.
Misa Henry:Oh, yeah. On Instagram, I'm Misa_ Victoria.
Vikki:Yeah. And you can follow her there, follow her journey. This has been so awesome, miss. We're so proud of you and thrilled to have you on the podcast. Thank you for taking time out of your busy day to be with us.
Misa Henry:Thank you. I'm super proud of you guys. It's so fun to support your parents who have supported you your whole entire life and then to have them go on different ventures. And and they're just so committed to their business to helping other people and just sharing the knowledge that they've acquired. So I feel really blessed and fortunate that they wanted me to share, my perspective and just what I've learned because I feel like it's so little what I've learned and done so far.
Misa Henry:But I'm grateful to be here and support you guys. And I love you, and I'm so proud of you.
John:Sweetie, we love you too.
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