The Lion Counseling Podcast helps men escape the cages that hold them back and become the Lions they were created to be. It exists to help men obtain success, purpose, happiness, and peace in their career and personal lives. The podcast is hosted by the founder of Lion Counseling, Mark Odland (Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist and Certified EMDR Therapist), and Zack Carter (Counselor and Coach with Lion Counseling). In their podcasts, they address a variety of topics relevant to men, including: mental health, relationships, masculinity, faith, success, business, and self-improvement.
One of the most practical leadership tools emphasized at Echelon Front's muster is the debrief. After the action, you review what happened. What went well? What did not go well? What can we improve?
Mark Odland:That's powerful. A good debrief turns experience into learning. It prevents repeated mistakes. It builds humility. It creates a culture where improvement matters more than ego does.
Mark Odland:And I especially appreciate that idea that leaders go first. The leader is the one who owns what he could have done better before pointing out everyone else. That is strong. But here's what I wanna build on. Many high performing men are willing to analyze what happened, but they're not always willing to face what happened inside of them.
Mark Odland:They'll say things like, I should have communicated better. They'll say, I should have slowed down. They'll say, I should have handled that differently. And all that may be true, but if they stop there, the same pattern often repeats because analysis is not the same as processing. You can understand a mistake intellectually and still repeat it.
Mark Odland:You can name a pattern and still be controlled by it. And you can debrief the event and never address the reaction that drove the event in the first place. And this is where a lot of men get stuck. They're smart enough to see the issue. They're honest enough to admit the issue, but insight alone does not always change the nervous system.
Mark Odland:If the same trigger keeps producing the same response, something deeper is happening. Maybe the man feels disrespected and immediately goes on offense or feels criticized and then shuts down. Or maybe he feels uncertain, and so he becomes controlling. Or maybe he feels shame and then avoids accountability. A debrief can identify that.
Mark Odland:Right? That's what that's what it's there for. But the deeper work is often needed to change it. This is one reason I value EMDR therapy in a trauma informed approach to working with high achieving men. Not because they need to sit around endlessly talking about their feelings.
Mark Odland:It's not what I do. But because sometimes the pattern is stored deeper than conscious thought is. The body remembers threats before the mind has finished analyzing the meeting. The nervous system reacts before the leadership principle comes online. So, yes, debrief.
Mark Odland:Review what happened. Own it. Own your part. Identify the lesson. But if the same issue keeps showing up, it's time to ask a deeper question.
Mark Odland:What is happening inside me in that moment? What does this situation trigger? Why does this reaction feel so automatic? That is where the real change begins. At Lion Counseling, I help men go beyond reviewing the pattern and actually resolving what drives it.
Mark Odland:Because when the deeper reaction changes, the leadership behavior changes. If you keep debriefing the same issue, but it keeps coming back, you can book a clarity call at escapethecagenow.com.