Signed

You didn't choose your cloud provider. You inherited it, from whoever picked the safe option first and called it a decision. In this Playbook, Max Clark, CEO of ITBroker.com, names what that habit actually costs: three decades of consensus defaults, from the dot com era stack to LAMP to AWS's US East 1, and what the buyers who never questioned any of them paid for it, including the 15 hour outage this past October that took down Snapchat, Venmo, and a foreign government's tax site along with them. One question either ends the habit or exposes that you've never really made this decision at all: compared to what?

The Playbook
  • 00:27 Why "nobody gets fired for buying IBM" still runs every enterprise tech decision, and the gap between safe for your career and right for your company
  • 01:28 The mistake: the consensus default isn't neutral, it's the product the market is built to sell you
  • 03:05 Proof from history: the safe choice and the weird choice have traded places twice before this one
  • 04:37 Today's default: AWS, US East 1, and what the October 2025 outage actually cost the buyers who never questioned it
  • 06:32 The play, step 1: the average cost structure you guarantee yourself by matching every competitor's stack
  • 08:00 The play, step 2: the cloud flexibility trap, committed spend agreements, and what cockroach mode actually protects
  • 08:57 The play, step 3: a16z, 37signals, and Netflix chose three different answers, on purpose
  • 13:51 What to watch for next: this isn't anti-cloud, it's anti-default, and why cloud transformation mandates quietly die around month 12
  • 15:00 The buyer's job: ask "compared to what?" on every consequential decision

Resources Mentioned
  • Andreessen Horowitz, "The Cost of the Cloud: A Trillion Dollar Paradox" (Sarah Wang & Martin Casado, 2021)
  • 37signals / DHH's public cloud exit writeup (Basecamp, HEY)
  • Netflix Open Connect
  • Dropbox's pre-IPO infrastructure buildout
  • AWS US East 1 outage, October 2025
  • Further reading: Most of Your Infrastructure Can Be Standard. Some of It Shouldn't Be. — the six-part decision filter for identifying which infrastructure choices actually deserve a comparison against the default, built directly from this episode

About the Show
Signed is the podcast for buyers in a market built for sellers. Playbooks are the solo format, 10 to 15 minutes, one trigger, one specific play. New episodes weekly at itbroker.com/podcast. If the trigger in today’s Playbook is one you’re facing right now, book an intro call at itbroker.com. We help buyers make the right call the first time. Buy tech without regret. Follow: @itbrokerdotcom

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Creators and Guests

Host
Max Clark
Founder & CEO of ITBroker.com

What is Signed?

The IT market is built for sellers, not buyers.

That's why 80% of tech buyers regret their last major purchase. Deals take longer than they should. Teams get locked into platforms that don't fit, contracts they can't escape, and vendors they wouldn't choose again. The pitches, demos, and analyst reports are built to close deals, not help buyers make the right one.

Signed is the podcast for the buyers. Host Max Clark, CEO of ITBroker.com, talks with CIOs, CFOs, operators, and founders who've lived inside real enterprise tech deals — the ones who can explain what actually determined whether the deal worked.

Plus weekly Playbooks breaking down the moments that matter most: renewals, M&A, compliance mandates, office moves, budget cuts, and the specific plays that separate buyers who get it right from those who regret it.

If you're responsible for choosing, negotiating, or living with the consequences of enterprise technology, this show is for you.

New episodes weekly. An ITBroker.com podcast.

Max Clark (00:00)
There's a running joke among engineers that US East One is the safest place to run. Not because it fails less, but because when it goes down, it takes so much of the internet with it that you're not alone. AWS was down, becomes the perfect alibi. It wasn't my call. It was everyone's. Except it's not really a joke.

Max Clark (00:15)
People make this an actual planning decision. They pick the most concentrated, most failure prone spot on the map on purpose because going down with the whole internet is safer for them than going down by themselves. Sit

Max Clark (00:27)
There's a phrase that's quietly run enterprise IT for 40 years. Nobody gets fired for buying IBM. Swap in the brand of the decade and it still works. Nobody gets fired for buying the cloud. Nobody gets fired for buying the platform everyone else bought. It feels like the safe choice. Here's what I want you to sit with for the next few minutes. Safe for your career and right for your company are not the same decision. And the gap between those two, that's exactly where the money goes.

Max Clark (00:52)
I'm Max Clark, CEO of IT Broker.com, and this is Signed, the Podcast for Buyers and a Market Built for Sellers.

Max Clark (00:59)
Today is a playbook episode. Just me, and we're going after the single most expensive habit in technology buying: doing the thing everyone else is doing because everyone else is doing it.

Max Clark (01:08)
I've watched this pattern run for three decades across three completely different default stacks. The technology changes every time, the behavior never does. Let's get into it.

Max Clark (01:28)
Start with the obvious question: why does nobody get fired for buying IBM even work as a sentence? Because it's not a statement about technology, it's a statement about risk.

Max Clark (01:37)
It says if I pick the thing everyone picks and it goes sideways, it's not my fault. I made the responsible choice. The blame spreads out across the whole industry instead of landing on me. And I get it. That's a real fear. If you're a CIO or an IT director, the downside of a bad call is personal. It's your name on the decision. Going with the herd is insurance against that. But here's the move I want you to see because this is the whole episode in one idea. The consensus default is not neutral.

Max Clark (02:06)
It is a product. It is the thing the market is built to sell you. Think about who benefits when everyone does it this way becomes the answer. The seller benefits twice. Once when you buy because you bought without a fight, and again after you buy because you've stopped asking questions. You've outsourced your own judgment to the crowd. And the crowd doesn't work for you. The crowd is downstream of the same marketing, the same analyst reports, the same conference keynotes, the seller paid to put in front of you at the same time.

Max Clark (02:35)
So when you choose the default because it's safe, you're not avoiding risk. You're handing your judgment to the people on the other side of the table. That's the trade. And nobody tells you you're making it. That's the seller's market in one sentence. The most powerful tool they have isn't a discount or a feature. It's getting you to stop scrutinizing the decision. And everyone else does it, is the cleanest way to make a smart person stop asking why. I want to walk you through this because if you've only been in tech for 10 years, you think the current default is just

Max Clark (03:05)
How it is. It's not. It's the third one I've watched. Rewind to the tail end of the dot-com era. There was a consensus architecture and everyone ran it. Netscape web server, WebLogic application server, Oracle database, all of it sitting on Sun hardware. If you were building a serious company, that was the stack. It was expensive, and that was almost the point. The price tag was proof that you were serious. And then there were some founders did it another way. The lamp stacks showed up.

Max Clark (03:34)
Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP, or Perl, the open source world. And the knock on it at the time was that it was a toy. Real companies don't run their business on free software. Then ETOys came along and ran a massive consumer site on exactly that kind of open source stack. Now eToys' business failed, and it failed for a pile of reasons that had nothing to do with their servers. I want to be precise about that. The company didn't make it, but the technology worked. They proved you could run an enormous high-traffic site and open source at scale, and it held up.

Max Clark (04:03)
The business going under was never a technology story. And right behind that, Facebook gets built on Lamp. Now it's not a toy anymore. Now it's a thing the smart, fast companies are using and the default flipped. All the new money, all the new companies switched gears, and suddenly running open source wasn't strange. It was the obvious play.

Max Clark (04:23)
Notice what just happened in that story. The safe choice and the weird choice traded places. The thing that got you laughed out of the room became the thing everyone copied. And the people who moved early before it was a consensus got an advantage the latecomers never did.

Max Clark (04:37)
Today the default is the cloud. And for the last 10 years or so, let's be specific because the cloud is too vague to be useful. For most companies, AWS is the accepted infrastructure. It's the consensus safe play. Nobody questions it. And inside AWS, the default service location is one region, US East One in Northern Virginia. Oldest, cheapest. Every new feature lands there first. So it's where everybody starts, and it's where a staggering amount of the internet quietly ended up living.

Max Clark (05:05)
If you're not in the cloud at all, people look at you like something's wrong with you. And the investors, the board, the new exec all reinforce it because the default is the easy thing to underwrite. Here's what that concentration actually buys you. In October of 2025, US East One went down for about 15 hours. One region, and it took roughly 70 AWS services and over th thousands of apps with it. Snapchat, Venmo, ring doorbells, airline check-ins, foreign government tax websites. Why so much carnage from one region?

Max Clark (05:35)
Because a huge amount of AWS is globally leans on US East One under the hood. Even for things you've deployed somewhere else, everybody concentrated in the same place, so everybody failed at the same time. Now go back to where we started. There's a running joke among engineers that US East One is the safest place to run. Not because it fails less, but because when it goes down, it takes so much of the internet with it that you're not alone. AWS was down, becomes the perfect alibi. It wasn't my call. It was everyone's. Except it's not really a joke.

Max Clark (06:05)
People make this an actual planning decision. They pick the most concentrated, most failure prone spot on the map on purpose because going down with the whole internet is safer for them than going down by themselves. Sit with that for a second. That choice isn't being made to protect the company, it's being made to protect the person making it. That's the consensus default in its purest, most honest form, and it's exactly the thing the show exists to call out. I'm not telling you the cloud is wrong. I'm not even telling you that US East One is wrong.

Max Clark (06:32)
I'm telling you that it is the third default I've watched hardened into the safe answer, and every single time the edge went to the people who treated it as a decision instead of a reflex. Here's the cost of consensus that doesn't show up on the invoice. There's no alpha in doing what everyone else does. If you build your company exactly the way every competitor builds theirs, you've guaranteed yourself an average cost structure. You've competed away your own advantage before you've sold anything. Let me make that more concrete because I've lived it.

Max Clark (07:02)
Picture two companies in the same market. One runs the default, the other spent the time to figure out how to build and operate its own infrastructure. I have watched companies open up an enormous cost gap doing this, operating a structure their competitors literally could not imagine because the competitors never did the work. When you've got that kind of advantage on your cost base, you can do things in your market no one else can afford to do. Storage is the cleanest example. There was a stretch where the consensus answer was buy a giant.

Max Clark (07:32)
Very expensive sand. Everyone did it. Meanwhile, a couple of outstarts like Dropbox and Backblaze built their own storage layer on commodity drives. Who won? You don't need my opinion, just look at who's still standing 20 years later. Now here's the trap inside today's default specifically, and this is the one I want every buyer to internalize. Everyone thinks the cloud is ephemeral, flexible, spin it up, spin it down, pay for what you use. That's the pitch. In practice,

Max Clark (08:00)
Almost every company I work with is locked into a committed spend agreement. They signed up for a number for years. So when the business shifts, when revenue dips, when a product line dies, when you need to cut, they have no ability to bring their costs down. They're committed. Compare that to the company that owns its equipment. When the economy slowed, I watched companies go into what I call cockroach mode. They pushed off the hardware refresh. They run on gear that was a little old, not ideal, but you know what? They already owned it.

Max Clark (08:30)
Their infrastructure cost dropped to near zero right when they needed the air. The flexible option was rigid when it mattered. The rigid option turned out to be the flexible one. That's the inversion. The thing you bought because it felt like optionality is the thing quietly taking your optionality away. Now you could write all of that off as me being contrarian. So let me hand you some outside evidence. And to a few companies that have nothing to do with me.

Max Clark (08:57)
Because every one of them is really a different answer to that same default. Pile into AWS, mostly into US East One, like everyone else. First, Anderson Horowitz, A16Z, one of the biggest venture firms in the world. In 2021, two of their partners, Sarah Wang and Martin Casato, published a piece called The Cost of the Cloud, a Trillion Dollar Paradox. They looked at 50 of the top public software companies, and they estimated that the cost of cloud was suppressing those companies' market value by around $100 billion.

Max Clark (09:26)
Because cloud spend was eating into margins and the market price margin. For some of those companies, cloud was running about half the entire cost of goods sold. Their line was: you're crazy if you don't start in the cloud, and you're crazy if you stay on it. And sit with the irony for a second. That's not a co-location vendor saying this, that's a firm that helped fund the entire cloud native generation, telling you the math stops working at scale. But here's the part of that piece almost everyone skips.

Max Clark (09:55)
And it's the most important part for you as the buyer. A16Z went out of their way to say that they were not arguing for ripping everything out of the cloud. Their actual conclusion was simpler and sharper. The infrastructure spend should be a first-class metric, a real decision, something you measure and own, not something that just happens to you while you're looking something else. That's the whole game right there. Make it a decision.

Max Clark (10:17)
Second example, 37Signals, the company behind Basecamp and Hey Email. Their co-founder, DHH did the math out loud in public.

Max Clark (10:25)
The result by his own accounting. They cut their cloud build down roughly $2 million a year in savings with the same size team no new hires. The hardware paid for itself in months, Their original projection was $7 million in savings over five years. As they kept going, including moving more of their storage off the cloud, that number is now tracking past 10 million. And it's not just them. Dropbox, before its IPO, built out its own infrastructure and saved something like $75 million over two years in the run-up to going public. That's not a rounding error. That's a materially

Max Clark (10:55)
Different company.

Max Clark (10:56)
Third example, and it's the most it's the biggest one, Netflix. This is a company that runs on AWS, the website, the signup flow, the recommendations, and coding, the whole business sets in the cloud. Nobody would call Netflix cloud adverse. But years ago, they identified one specific thing. The biggest lever on both their cost and their customers' experience was video delivery. Getting the bytes to your screen without buffering. Number one cost and number one quality signal, same piece of the puzzle.

Max Clark (11:24)
So they took control of just that piece. They built their own delivery network, Open Connect. Custom hardware boxes they deploy around the world, sitting right inside the internet providers' networks, as physically close to you as they can get. Today, more than 95% of everything you stream comes off Netflix's own boxes. Not a rented third party, not a CDN. And notice, that's the exact thing opposite of piling everything into one region. There's no single US East One that Netflix playback can lose. They spread the most important thing across the whole planet on purpose.

Max Clark (11:53)
Now think about what that does to a competitor. Every other streaming service that's renting its video delivery is paying a higher cost per bite than the single most expensive thing in the entire business. That's not a gap you close with a nicer app or a better show. It is a structural disadvantage baked straight into their cost base, and Netflix built it that way on purpose. So look at the three of them together. 37 Signals ran the numbers and left the cloud entirely. Dropbox built its own and saved 75 million. Netflix stayed on the cloud.

Max Clark (12:21)
For nearly everything and carved out the piece that mattered most. Three completely different answers, and every single one of them was chosen. That's the whole thing. The cloud is the right call for a huge amount of what all three of those companies do. When 37 Signals launched, hey, they expected 30,000 signups in six months and got three hundred thousand in three weeks. The cloud is exactly what you want for that. I'm not anti-cloud, and Netflix is the proof you don't have to be. The destination was never the point. The point is they choose it on purpose.

Max Clark (12:49)
Most companies never do. They never even look. Here's how I know the default is running the show and not the math. Watch what happens to the rare company that did something different. The one that built its own infrastructure and opened up that big cost advantage. Sooner or later they hire a new executive, and that executive shows up with a mandate, a cloud transformation. Not because a number say to, because being off the consensus makes everyone nervous.

Max Clark (13:13)
The board's nervous. The new executive wants a flagship initiative and cloud sam transformation sounds like progress. I've watched these projects become massive distractions. They eat a year, and then almost on schedule, they get quietly abandoned around the 12 month mark, right when the wheel real cost differential becomes impossible to hide. When you're staring at a four to five time increase in your runway rate, the transformation dies very fast. It's funny how that works. That's not strategy, that's theater.

Max Clark (13:40)
It's a company spending a year and a fortune to move towards the average away from its own edge because the edge felt strange and strange felt risky. There's no reward for being strange.

Max Clark (13:51)
So let me be clear about what this episode is and isn't, because it'd be easy to hear Max says leave the cloud. That's not it. I am not all or nothing on infrastructure. The cloud is a great answer to a lot of questions. Owning your own gear is a great answer to a lot of others. I don't care which one you land on. What I care about, the only thing I'm asking for is intentionality. I want to see a decision that got made on purpose because someone looked at your actual load, your actual growth, your actual balance sheet, and chose.

Max Clark (14:19)
Not a decision that got made by default because it's what everyone does and nobody wanted to be the one who looked weird. The enemy in this episode was never AWS. The enemy is the default, the reflex, the little voice that says, don't overthink it, just do what everyone else does. That's the safe mood. Because here's the truth underneath all of it. In a market built for sellers, the consensus default is the seller's best friend. It's the one thing that gets a sharp buyer to start asking questions.

Max Clark (14:47)
The moment you go with the herd, you've stopped being a buyer and started being a follower. And the people you're following don't work for you. So here's your one job on every consequential technology decision you make. Ask two words.

Max Clark (15:00)
So here's your job. On every consequential technology decision you make, ask three words. Compared to what? Compared to what is this the right call? What do we rule out and why? What does this cost us in five years, not five months? What happens to this number if the business shrinks instead of grows? The answer is if the honest answer is we picked it because that's what everyone picks, that's not a decision. That's a default wearing a decision's clothes. You don't have to be a contrarian. You don't have to be strange for its own sake.

Max Clark (15:30)
You just have to choose on purpose. That's the entire difference between buying tech and being sold tech. I'm Max Clark. This has been a signed playbook. If you're staring down a decision right now and you can't answer, compared to what? That's exactly the conversation we have at itbroker.com. I'll see you next time.