Subscribe
Share
Share
Embed
Episode 549:In this episode, Chris and Jeff dive into a lively and engaging discussion about the Bible, focusing on the intriguing story of King David, Bathsheba, and the transition of power to Solomon. They reflect on the dynamics of David's family, particularly focusing on his fourth son, Adonijah, and the implications of David's parenting—or lack thereof. They explore how David's failure to discipline Adonijah ultimately leads to a coup attempt, highlighting the consequences of neglecting parental responsibilities.
Whether you’ve been following Jesus for years or you’re just starting to ask questions, there’s a seat for you here.
Join Jeff and Chris for honest conversations about Scripture, faith, and the everyday stuff we all navigate. With humor, personal stories, and plenty of back-and-forth, The Bible Guys explore what the Bible says and how it connects to your life.
Subscribe, bring your questions, and get to know the Bible one conversation at a time. Head over to TheBibleGuys.com for more information!
You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in practical ways. Hey, everybody, welcome to the Bible Guys. My name is Chris and this is Jeff Jeff, and we have we have given ourselves self proclaimed titles of We're the Bible. We are the Bible Guys, the the Bible Guys. You may think you know some other Bible League guys, Bible. We are the Bible Guys. All we're trying to say with that is actually it's the opposite of what it sounds like. We're not saying we're we know that much about the Bible. All we're saying is we're just a couple of friends who like to talk about the Bible. That's right. That we're really big fans of the Bible. That's right. So Hey, today we're gonna kick off a segment called Guess the Word. It's played just like taboo, and we're gonna if you're watching on video, we're gonna put these words that I cannot say on the green and if you do, and then then you lose a thousand points yes for every time that I blow it. She didn't say how many points I get forgetting them right. She did actually list a thousand points, didn't she? Yeah, she said, do you not, or else you lose a thousand points. I think it's on you today. Okay, so it's just me going into the negative. You're gonna owe her. You're going to owe Desertate a thousand points every time I get all. Five of these right without making a single mistake. I'm still at zerzero. Sending a passive aggressive She's sending a passive aggressive message to us. I think you guys are zeros. Even if you think you wan movie trivia. I ward you no points, and God have mercy on your soul. I don't know you know that it's I think it's Billy Madison. That's hilarious. Okay, so here we go. By the way, I have not looked at these in the past. I've looked at these and figured out the way. I was going to say. This is fun, though, but I'm not have to say it on the spot. Right on the spot, she means that may make more mistakes. This is going to be fun. Are you ready? All right? Ready you shoot your rifle when you. Are hunting? Yes, what's the singular word for that hunt. Yes, boom, got it. I was not allowed to say gun because I said rifle, deer, fishing, hounds or turkey. Oh okay, okay, all right, here we go. Ready, okay, oh wow, okay, okay. When the foliage turns orange and red or autumn? Yes, correct. I was not allowed to say leaves, winter, fall, season or summer. Okay. Okay, was a tough one. Good job. Yes, I could have said autumn is a hard word. I could have said not spring, but yes, I could have done that, but I said foliage, Yes it is. Okay, here we go. Ugly Christmas sweater, Yes, that was so clever that, yes, because I was not allowed. To say wear fuzzy, cold knit or shirt. So so we are three for three to this point, which which added up we still have zero points. Yes, I give zero points because it says christ. You didn't even give me the opportunity for points. How do you like that? That's true? That is true? Oh my goodness, gracious okay, uh geez, all right here we go. Uh. The main protein in the November holiday turkey, Yes, how about that was great? Thank you. I was not allowed to say dinner eat gobble animal or Thanksgiving. Okay, good job, thank you, thank you. That I did not come up with that except for on the spot. Great, I've not pre looked at these fabulous Okay. All right, here we go. All right, I just sent you a video of our family. Uh pupkins. Yes, oh my goodness, gracious, yes you did. You just said the word pumpkins. That was a couple of days ago. Yes, a couple days ago you sent me. Yes, I was not allowed to say orange, carve, stem jack or Halloween. Wow, that's awesome. And by the way, it wasn't that crazy mine, Yes, very good, it was crazy. You guys did a good job. Thank you. So Chris sent me a video of him he had carved his pumpkins and his pumpkin is giving birth to a pumpkin. Yes, yes, because I saw it on social media and goofy and so everybody who likes those kinds of things they probably have already seen it, so it's not necessarily original. But I saw it and I thought, oh my goodness, this is great, just because I've never seen it. Of course, because I built arms and legs out of carrots. It was I was wondering what that was. I was like, what did he do it? Carrots? That's a right, Yeah, that's a riot. Hey, dude, spend a few minutes so our listeners get to listen and spend a few minutes inside the brain of of Chris Sarba, and guess what a few minutes a day? Zero points. Congratulations. At least you're not negative. That's right. You didn't go negative. You don't owe das anything. That's right. Right. That's awesome to be able to be me and some of the others that are close to Chris all the time to get into your mind on a regular basis. It's a privilege. It is a privilege. So you're welcome, that's true, you are welcome. Good. Well, hey, we're going to transition. Well, we left him on a cliffhanger yesterday. You know, do you remember a couple of weeks ago, I was watching our old episodes as they were airing, and you said that our goal was to do bad transitions. Yes, and I actually, when I was listening to it, I thought, that's funny. It was. We should continue to do that. So go ahead and make the transition to the scripture. Go okay on this one. Speaking of pumpkins giving birth. It reminds me that David. Yeah, speaking of pumpkins giving birth reminds me that David Besheba had a baby a couple and then some of the other people that he gave birth wanted to pull off a coup. There it is, there it is. Did it work? Yes? Okay, there we go because it made sense and it's a really bad transition. Terrible okay. So that's one of our goals now, one of our goals is to have terrible transitions. I think it should be because I liked I was watching it, you know, sometimes you say it, then you forget about it. Yes, and then when I was actually watching, I was like, oh, that's actually pretty clever. And then inadvertently, probably most of the rest of transitions since that time have been bad transitions too. Yes, okay. So if you remember, uh, what's his name? Ada? And Nijah was David's what was his fourth son? Yeah, he was born right after Absolom, right. Yeah, and he was It made sense that he would be the next king because you had according to the notes here, Ada Nija was David's fourth son, the logical choice to Succeeed succeed him as king. David's first son, Amnon, had been killed by Absolom for raping his sister. His second son, Daniel, is mentioned only in the genealogy, so he must have died by this time. Absolom died in a previous coup attempt. And then now you have ada Nija. It makes sense to at night. But David had already chosen. Are those all four starting with A? Except for Daniel? Oh yeah, Daniel, yeah? And Solomon of course. And then so David had determined that Solomon was going to be the next king? Yes, we had, and God had chosen Solomon as well. But one of the things, it was amazing. We didn't mention this yesterday, but do you remember reading that that David had never disciplined at a Nija, not even asking him? Why are you doing that? Have you ever seem like the old grandpa mentality where you sort of give up being a parent. You just give him everything. Yeah, yeah, you want more? Can you want ice cream? Before? Well, that's what's happening. He's, uh, he's just forgotten to be a dad, right, He's sort of like almost feels like he's renounced his responsibilities. Why because Nathan has to uh plot the way to get David to actually act like a leader. So he says, but Sheba, go in there and you say this, then I'll come in and I'll make a big stink about it. As you're talking. I'll back up your story. Because we want David to respond as a leader, and if you go in by yourself, he's not going to respond. He's going to do what he always does, right, which is just advt He's just going to just past discipline, ignore whatever. So clearly responsibility is what I mean. David never corrected him. And it doesn't say anything about how abishag his mother was. It as no, no, no no. His mother's name it was another really weird name, Hageth. She doesn't say anything about her discipline, but the Bible does mention a few times about Bathsheba and raising her son, and so it's kind of interesting. Maybe David saw that Solomon had character and that might have been why he chose Solomon over Abashaker or what's his name, Ada nijahh Okay, So we're gonna pick back up here, go King David. This is in verse twenty eight of First Kings. King David responded, called Bathsheba, so she came back in and stood before the king, and the King repeated his vow. As surely as the Lord lives, who rescued me from every danger, your son Solomon will be the next king and will sit on my throne this very day, just as I vowed to you before the Lord the God of Israel. Then Bathsheba bowed down with her face to the ground before the king and claimed, may my Lord King David live forever. Then King David ordered calls Adok the Priest, Nathan the Prophet, and ben I as sna Jahoida. When they came into the king's presence, the King said to them, take Solomon and my officials down to the Guihan Spring. Solomon is to ride on my own mule there, Zadok the priest and Nathan the Prophet, and annoint him king over Israel. Blow the rams horn and shout long live King Solomon, and then escort him back here, and he will sit on my throne. He will succeed me as king, for I have appointed him to be ruler over Israel and Judah. Amen ben Iyah, son of Jeheida, replied, May the Lord the God of my lord. The King decreed that it happened and may the Lord be with Solomon as he has been with you, my Lord the King, and may he make Solomon's reign even greater than yours. It seems like he made a long speech considering to be hurrying there. But anyways, so. And by the way, he has to make it because at an Aja his coup is happening that day, right, which means all of a sudden, David has been thrust into like I've got to do this ceremony right now. Right right, yeah, So where do we finish on this chapter? By the way, Oh, I'm trying to fix it out. That's a great question. Verse fifty three. Who we're going? Okay, So, Zadok, the priest Nathan, the prophet Beniah, a son of Jehidah, and the king's body took Solomon down to Guihan's Spring, with Solomon riding on David's own mule. There, Zadok the priest took the flask of olive oil from the sacred tent and anointed Solomon with the oil. Then they sounded the ram's horn and all the people shouted, long Live King Solomon. All the people followed Solomon into Jerusalem, playing flutes and shouting for joy. The celebration was so joyous and noisy that the earth shook with the sound. Ada Nija and his guests heard the celebrating and shouting it just as they were finishing their banquet. When Joeb heard the sound of the rams horn, he asked, what's going on? Why is the city in such an uproar. While he was still speaking, Jonathan, son of Abiathar, the priest, arrived, come in ad and I just said to him, for you are a good man, you must have good news. Not at all, Jonathan replied, our lord, King David has just declared king Solomon King. The King sent him down to Guihan Spring. Was Zadok the priest, Nathan the prophet, and ben Aya son of Johidah. Protected by the king's bodyguard. They had him ride on the king's own mule, and Zadok and Nathan have anointed him at Guihan Spring. Is the new king. And they've just returned, and the whole city is celebrating and rejoicing. That's what all the noise is about. What's more, Solomon is now sitting on the royal throne as king. All the royal officials have gone to King David and congratulating him, saying, may your God make Solomon's fame even greater than your own, and may Solomon's reign be even greater than yours. And then the king bowed his head in worship as he lay in his bed, and he said, praise the Lord, the God of Israel, who today has chosen a successor to sit on my throne while I am still alive to see it. Then all of Ada and Iija's guests jumped up in panic from the banquet table and quickly scattered. Adanijah was afraid of Solomon, so he rushed to the sacred tent and grabbed on to the horns of the altar. Words soon reached Solomon that Adanaija had seized the horns of the altar in fear, and that he was pleading let King Solomon swear today that he will not kill me. Solomon replied, if he proves himself to be loyal, not a hair on his head will be touched. But if he makes trouble, he will die. So King Solomon summoned and add an Ija, and they brought him down from the altar. He came and bowed respectfully for King Solomon, who dismissed him, saying, go on home. He what's a cool move, right there, Yeah, that's a great move. Just just go home. Yeah. And so hey, you tried, buddy, right, you tried it failed. Just bend the knee, go on home. That's it. So uh so again, what an epic story. And uh, it's just it's just great. And uh and by the way, just in the dude, right, And and I love how it says David bowed his head in worship as he lay in his bed. You know what that means. It means that he he used all of his strength to get up and to do this ceremony. They got him out of bed. Here he is under what like five hundred blankets and standing next to a girl that's trying to keep him warm, right, and and he can't he can't get warm, and and so he's gonna come out of his blankets. Right. You know, you can even imagine your brain how finn he is. Yeah, right, he's probably so thin. That's where that's when you're cold. Well, we know he's over seventy at this point. Yeah, but but the miles on this guy are way more than seventy. Right, right, yeah, this guy, this guy's been through it so anyway, so he has just enough strength to do all of this. And then this old lion rises up one more time, right, and then he goes. Back in bed and he worships in bed because he doesn't have the strength, right, And so it includes that detail. And so Solomon is now, uh, you know, probably with no notice. Think about this. Think about it from Solomon's point of view, right, yeah, Yeah, he's been promised king. Sure, he's been trained to be king. It's the long awaited day. But then all of a sudden, somebody wakes you up and goes, hey, hey, it's happening today. What do you mean today? No, no, with the next hour, Yeah, we're going now you get on the mule. It's like it's like wow, and all of a sudden you're on the throne. Yeah yeah, And so you know, and so it's a good lesson for us. And he's a younger man, right right, he's what the fifth son of David, so he's a younger, a younger man. We know that David also had daughters, so we don't know how many siblings. But you know, I mentioned I was it yesterday's episode that I had. You know, my oldest sister is in her sixties, my youngest brothers in his thirties, and and you know there's this big. Gap, and you have ten siblings and you're the eleventh. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Well I'm in the middle. But when you add me, it's eleven kids total in my that are connected. Oh you're not the eleventh in line, no, no, no, no, I'm the oldest. I'm the oldest of the boys. I have six older sisters and four younger brothers. Everybody above you is female, and already below you as male. Yeah. I turned the tide man, everything got better, right right, that's really funny. Yeah, So so it could be that way that you know, he could be he could be fifteen years younger than Amnon was, right right, So he's he's probably a pretty young guy. Yeah, if his dad was in his seventies. He can't be too young because and I just afraid of them. Right right right? Yeah. Well, also he also has all the bodyguards and he sitting. There, think he was just afraid of his power. Oh he's the king now right, Yeah, so everybody, because it didn't hesitate to tell us that as soon as soon as the announcement was made. Everybody left out of that. He's by himself, right, He's feeling pretty tough because he's got Joeb sitting there with. Him, and and at anytime that dinner party could have been raided. Right right, because they were just down the hill. They were just down the hill from the palace. Right. So yeah, so you know Solomon is is now the king and yeah, like you said, is a whirlwind here. But this treacherous guy at in Nija. Just be sure that you know when you try to Jesus said, if you try to push yourself to the top, you will be humiliated, right that that's kind of the the thing. And this is what he did again at a Nija. Tries to push himself to the top. He tries to seize power. It wasn't his to have, uh, and you know he winds up being embarrassed. Joe app gets exposed. At this point, all these other leaders of Ayathar and his family, they get exposed and they all take off run and they abandon ad in Nija. And just understand, when you're trying to take what's not yours, and people around you will abandon you when you get exposed. That's right, and that's that's what happens here. Yeah, Hey, there's a note. The reason why one of the reasons why we love our life applications study Bibles is they do all of the study and they had these commentaries and these really great notes, and I love this. And a lot of times they'll do like a character study, or they'll summarize the character's life. Yes, and in this case they're summarizing Besteshiba, and I love just the opening lines and this it says. Best Sheba was the unlikely link between Israel's two most famous kings, David and Solomon. She was lover and wife to one and mother to the other. Her adultery with David almost brought an end to David's family line, but out of the ashes of sin, God brought good. Eventually, Jesus Christ, the Salvation of mankind was born as a descendant to David and bet Sheba. David and Bestsheba's story shows that little bit wrong decisions often lead to big mistakes. It is likely that that neither was where she should have been. Betesheba may have been rash and well anyway, it just goes on. But the bottom line is it is a great thing to recognize in this moment, as Solomon is being, you know king that you know Bestsheba is the mother, and then from this line of kings is the King of kings, right, the next King of Israel and king of the world and king of the universe in creation. And so it's just really cool how God is able to use broken people for great things. And so here's David not a perfect moment, right, the worst part of his life by far, the thing that was known throughout Israel, his most shameful thing that he's ever been a part of. And yet God deems it. And and it's because why of his repentance. It's because of his posture of recognizing and apologizing to everybody there was there was a penalty for his sin. He has paid that price, excuse me. And it's just a great thing to know that God is still in the business of using broken people for great thanks right right. You know. The other thing is God had ordered you know, God does not endorse polygamy anywhere in the Bible. He ordered the kings don't marry lots of wives. He'd warned the people. If you if you start appointing kings they're gonna want to marry all the women. They're gonna want to It was a warning, right, they're gonna want to enlist all. Of the sons, Samuel. Samuel said, this is the testable things that will happen if you choose a king. Right, and they're gonna marry all your women. They're gonna enlist all of your sons. They're going to take all of your money. Right, you don't want a king. And so the kings weren't supposed to be marrying all these women, but David does. And if you look at it, it's four sons, three of them in a row, that rose up against him, right, right, from different women. Yeah, and then finally, but God still redeems it. Even out of our sin. He resolves, He brings like that said, beauty out of ashes kind of a thing and raises up Solomon Solomon. God could look into Solomon's life and go, Okay, this guy's gonna be pretty good. Yeah, and let's not forget too that his son's raising up against him as part of the consequences for of his own sin. Because the curse came. In multiple sins, multiple sins. And it was Nathan right who said, part of the part of your curse is going to be that your sons are going to live and die by the sword, and in fact your whole family and violence, violence and everything else. So, yeah, it was an actual curse. And so David's earthly consequences, the ripple effects of his bad choices, are still coming up back to haunt him. But it doesn't require Nathan to come in and declare the curse. Sin brings the curse, right, That's right, right, Nathan was just informing him of the curse. These are going to be the consequences. But if David had just married one woman and raised his son, well that son would have been the king, right. But instead he marries lots of women. They're all aspiring to the throne, they all. Right, and then decides to take another woman and. Takes another woman. I'm right in front of them, right, And so what happens is, you know, in David's mind, David was just doing what other respectable kings do. They look around the world, see all the other kings, all the other kings have these big harems. They just take what they want. It's a sign of your power. It demonstrates how strong your country is because you're such a virile man and you've got fifty kids and all these things. And it's also you know, more to choose from right the next heir? Sure, right, if I have a bunch of wives and more kids. You know, it makes sense in mathematically that if you have kids by one woman, you're only gonna get so many kids, right, But if you have seven hard women, you can have seven hondred kids. So his justification for it very likely was this is what kings do, So that's what I do. It demonstrates my power. Whatever, And I think a lot of times Christians get tempted to just do what the world does. Going well, you know, culture has changed, right, I know that's what God said. But you know, the reality is we've had conversations with people who were choosing to live in sin because economics are bad, it's hard to pay for rent, right, it's whatever, and we just we can find an excuse to justify our sin, and then we still tend to be shocked when there's consequences to our sin. And in this situation, I mean, David literally lives what should have been the end years of his life in peace because he'd vanquished all of his enemies instead. Now the enemy is from inside his own household, over and over and over again. It's a consequence of the fact that he just he adopted the lifestyle of the world around him, and instead of going God's way and trusting that God would raise up the one he only needed one air. He didn't need seventy five airs. He needed one. You need to trust God to protect that air. He needed to trust it. And then followed Deuteronomy six. Teach him in the morning, when you rise up, when you go to bed at night, when you walk along the way, when you sit down to eat, right, if he just but instead we see here Ad and Igel. He never even corrected him one time. He didn't train him at all. He did buck kiss with the next person in line that could have been king, right, ignored him essentially. And a lot of times I think parents think, oh, I just love my baby so much, I don't want to discipline them. Yeah, but look what you raise right, right right? And so in so many ways David is such a good guy. His heart is for God, and in so many ways he just fails to do what was necessary. You know, he had he was super talented, but he didn't raise his children in the same way, and yeah, it's a shame. Yeah, and part of it, I'm sure he blamed himself the entire time. Sure he felt discouraged about that part of his life. I'm sure, you know, blaming himself because he knew that no matter what he did, it was destined to turn bad. You know, I'm sure he probably told him of all sorts. Of things, why I do this? Yeah, absolutely, And so I'm sure it played part into him just sort of giving up in some ways. But you know what, this move that David did here, this is obviously what God had in mind. God said, David, you won't build a temple, but Solomon will. God knew Solomon was the next king. That was God's choice, that was David's choice. And so him rising up and doing this in this moment was a great picture of the old David, right, the David who stood against Goliath, the young man that killed the lion and the bear. That's who stood up here and did what was right. So David has one or two more plays and then it's coming to an end here pretty soon. So looking forward to the next episode, all Right, So we'll see you then on the bibble guys,