AI First with Adam and Andy

In this special annual predictions episode of AI First with Adam and Andy, hosts Adam Brotman and Andy Sack are joined by Rose Kelly, Head of AI Consulting at Forum3, for a fast-paced, candid look at what 2026 will bring for artificial intelligence, business leadership, work, and society.
The conversation explores whether CEOs will be hired or fired based on AI strategy, if the AI boom is headed toward a bubble or sustained growth, and how AI will reshape jobs, enterprise tools, and executive decision-making. Adam, Andy, and Rose also unpack the rise of AI-generated media, the growing challenge of distinguishing real from fake online, and why 2026 may mark the beginning of a true post-truth era.
Other predictions include the future of ChatGPT, Gemini, and Copilot in the enterprise, whether voice-first AI becomes mainstream, what’s next for AI-powered devices and hardware, and when humanoid robots may actually appear in everyday life. The episode also examines AI’s role in U.S. politics, regulation, labor markets, and the emerging backlash alongside a growing pro-human movement in creativity and culture.
Designed for executives, operators, and builders, this episode goes beyond hype to focus on real-world implications, adoption timelines, and strategic signals leaders should be watching as AI continues to accelerate.

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Adam Brotman (00:00)
I think that this is a yes.

Andy Sack (00:02)
That's my prediction for 26.

Adam Brotman (00:04)
I'm not quite sure that that's how it's going to play

Andy Sack (00:05)
Yeah, I love this. love this question and topic. I don't love the answer,

Adam Brotman (00:11)
I think that will start to form in a much more organized clearly visible way in 26.

Andy Sack (00:17)
This is AI First with Adam and Andy, the show that takes you straight to the front lines of AI innovation in business. I'm Andy Sack and alongside my co-host, Adam Brotman, each episode we bring you candid conversations with business leaders transforming their businesses with AI. No fluff, just real talk, actionable insights and use cases for you.

Today we have a special episode for all of you. It's my favorite episode of the year, the predictions episode. And today we have a special guest, Rose Kelly. Rose, you want to introduce yourself?

Rose Kelly (01:01)
Hi, I'm Rose. I work here at Form 3 with Adam and Andy. I'm head of AI consulting and work with all of our consulting clients here.

Andy Sack (01:10)
Yeah, Rose also runs our ⁓ community calls, which happen each month, which I want to invite you to. And today we asked Rose to join because she does such a great job on our community calls and our predictions episode. have so many to go through that we felt we needed an extra moderator. So Rose, I'm going to hand it off to you and she's going to walk us through a series of ⁓ predictions.

With that, Rose, take us away.

Rose Kelly (01:38)
Okay, I'm excited you guys, this is gonna be a good episode. So like Andy said, you guys each are gonna have one minute to answer the questions. It's gonna be a little bit of a rapid fire. So jumping right in, starting at the top. Will 2026 be the year we start seeing CEOs publicly hired or fired specifically because of their AI strategy and execution or lack thereof? Adam, can you start?

Adam Brotman (02:03)
Yeah, I think that this is a yes.

I think it's going to be more on the hired than the fired. I think that you'll, think 2026 will be the year that we'll start hearing about CEOs being specifically brought in because of their AI strategy.

Andy Sack (02:20)
Yeah, I think competency is going to increasingly show up as an all executive requirement in job descriptions and in recruitment. And so I agree with Adam on the hiring side. don't think in.

26 that will see anyone fired that it won't be clear to us at least that they're being terminated due to a lack of AI expertise and I'll go a step further that I do think in 26 certainly in the startup community and but maybe even in like mid-sized companies we may see the first company run by AI as CEO so that's my

That's my prediction for 26.

Rose Kelly (03:03)
Okay, moving on to the next question. Is today's AI boom a bubble that pops into a true AI winter next year? Andy?

Andy Sack (03:13)
do I think there's going to be an AI winter next year? I don't. I think that when Adam and I have talked about this, we've talked about this on the pod.

We believe that the demand side, the usage of AI, is unlike anything we've seen in 25, 30 years of my professional experience. So Chatjapd launched three years ago. They're up 3.5 and the fastest technology and row to now over 800 million active users weekly.

So I think the demand side is going to prevent it from being a nuclear winter, true AI bubble. What I do think that's really confusing in the world today is that at the same time that AI is being born, there's this monetary and fiscal crisis, certainly in the US, more broadly in the world, that is like, integrally tied in with this. And separating them apart is impossible.

So we might not have an AI bubble burst, but we might have a global economy, global monetary policy burst.

Adam Brotman (04:21)
⁓ interesting. You took it to an interesting place. ⁓ I would say that I do not think we're going to have an AI winter. I do think it's going to be a little weird and bumpy over the next year because there's so much money and so much riding on this topic. I'll just comment by saying I don't think that

general public and the general investing public fully has I'll call it baked in Just what kind of a shift is going on here? I think that Jensen Wong when he talks about it I mean putting aside in videos market cap and Nvidia itself, which is an interesting story I I think Jensen Wong gives kind of a master class on the the tectonic shift that's occurring across the infrastructure layer the coding layer and the agentic layer and

I think that that is going to carry the day, but I think there's so much riding on it and there's so much money and there's a lack of full understanding of it that it can cause a real volatile situation. But I don't think we're going to see an AI winter and a bubble like bursting in any sort of, you know, more than momentary way.

Andy Sack (05:30)
Yeah, one thing that I'll just add to that is that,

just as we were at the birth, I wasn't alive then, of the industrial era, when viewed as we're at the birth of the AI era, we're still early in its adoption and explosion. the next two to three years are going to be insane from that perspective.

Rose Kelly (05:51)
So somewhat related, do you guys think will AI be a top issue in the 2026 US midterms? Andy?

Andy Sack (05:59)
I think they will be, they'll be one of the top three topics. And I think it will become a political item. It's unclear what the Republicans are gonna, where they're gonna side and it's unclear where the Democrats are gonna side on this topic. But definitely as a result of, I do think in 26 we'll start to see,

the labor impact of AI. And I also think that the regulatory framework, this whole issue of federal rights versus state's rights as it relates to regulation is a very big topic that is going to come to a head in 26. And I believe that there'll be a federal law around the time of the midterm elections, if not before, to eliminate this problem so that AI can continue to advance.

from a regulatory standpoint in the United States at the pace that it has.

Adam Brotman (06:50)
Yeah, I would. I think that's really well put actually that that it's it's going to be a top issue. from a combination of there's going to be nervousness around jobs and the impact of jobs, there's going to be continual that nervousness will bleed over into a lot of creators that are going to feel like this. There's an ethical issue with what's going on. And and

I don't think there's any way to get around it being a top three issue. I think that what Andy just said is really interesting because I agree. I don't it's not clear to me like which is it going to split amongst party lines or is it going to be more more jagged in terms of how how different politicians come down on it. I'm not sure yet either. But it feels like the current administration is all in on accelerationist and lack of regulation at the state level.

And so that sets up the polarization. it's not, I'm like Andy, I'm not quite sure that that's how it's going to play out.

I do think it becomes a top issue either way in the midterm.

Rose Kelly (07:52)
Taking it like kind of one step further, do you think that in 2026, do you think we'll see a real anti AI camp emerge? Like a group of like kind of faction of people who are really anti AI aside from politics?

Adam Brotman (08:08)
I do. I would say that there already is one, by the way. think it's just not, but it's interesting. I don't think it's well organized or anything like that. But I think that there's a lot of people who pay attention to what's going on on social media, for example, on this topic. You'll see a pretty clear anti-AI, almost AI hate. I think what might.

happen is there might be some kind of a pro-human like it might get framed in like human versus AI and and a premium put on human creations and human experiences. So I think there's good I think that will start to form in a much more organized clearly visible way in 26.

Andy Sack (08:50)
Yeah, I think those are two distinct elements, which is

the anti-AI element and then the pro-human element. I think those are distinct. do think the anti-AI, I mean, Adam, I'll give you credit. You were the one who raised this as ⁓ a topic for us to discuss around the anti-AI element and that in 26 from a prediction standpoint, I think you stated and I agree that that is gonna grow and it's gonna grow I think as a result of the increase in

in layoffs, not just stalled hiring. So I think that there's already kernels of it. And I think it's going to increase significantly in 26. I think from the pro-human side, actually wanted to

may get this wrong, where my wife and I are watching Pluribus, which is the new show by Vince Gilligan, the writer and creator of Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul. And it's a good show. So I recommend it to my audience. Shout out Pluribus and Vince Gilligan. But in it, on the credits, it says this was created entirely with no AI. And that's the first time that I've seen that.

And I think that will continue to be certainly in performances, music, theater, and film. You'll see that increasingly as part of ⁓ the

Pro-human move.

Rose Kelly (10:15)
Talking about creators, you think that 2026 is going to be the moment that ordinary people can no longer tell real from fake online?

Adam Brotman (10:23)
Yes. Like I think. Yeah. Well, this weekend, this past weekend, so we're at the end, we're in November of towards the end of November of twenty twenty five and Gemini three and Nano Banana Pro just came out and they didn't put any restrictions apparently on, you know, likeness. can you can. So I saw these pictures of.

Andy Sack (10:25)
Who are you directing that to, Rose?

Rose Kelly (10:27)
Adam, do

you want to take that first? Or do you think it's already happened?

Adam Brotman (10:48)
I saw pictures all over my Twitter feed that I could not tell. I I knew they weren't real because the people were trying to show off Nano Banana 3 and said, and they were, you the headline was like, we're so cooked or whatever. And it's, it was like Elon and Jensen Wong and Sam Altman and Bill Gates and whatever, all like, like hanging out, like playing poker or whatever. Like, it was impossible to tell that they weren't, what the difference between reality and photos are. And it's,

Rose Kelly (11:06)
yeah, I saw that.

Adam Brotman (11:17)
I think that it's gonna be the year where, I do think we enter into the year where that just becomes, unfortunately, there's gonna have to be some sort of a, almost like a societal norm that's gonna have to get created around some hashtag or something you put on that says, like, not AI.

Rose Kelly (11:36)
Andy?

Andy Sack (11:37)
Yeah, I love this. I love this question and topic. I don't love the answer,

but headline on the answer is yes, we have entered toward the end of at the in 2026 we have entered the post truth era.

And that's basically the inability of consumers to distinguish between what's real reporting and real video and real images and what is AI created. I've had, just to illustrate it, in the last month, I've had two instances where...

⁓ I've shared things thinking they were real and they turned out to be totally created by AI. One was a, I got really into this video by Sam Altman, which he was talking and it took me 15 minutes of his speaking about AI. It was a long video on YouTube and it took me 15 minutes and then I just distinguished in his, in the audio and in the video I was like, ⁓ this isn't

And Sam talking, this is an avatar of Sam. And I shared that, I think, with both of you, Adam and Rose. But it took me 15 minutes. And it was because I was so involved in the intellectual content of what was being communicated in the video. And so I think that that's going to continue to happen. And when that does happen, AI becomes incredibly persuasive. And I was like, boy, watch out for this. Separately,

Occasionally, I'll spend my free five minutes of time looking at Instagram Reels. And there was an Instagram Reels, and I ended up sharing it with the whole team about an AI generated haircut in which.

consumers put their head in a hole, and they come out, and they're fully coiffed. And I was like, this is amazing. I want one of these. And I shared it with the whole team. I think it may have been Adam. It may have been another member of our team who had said, Andy, that's not real. That's all AI generated. And I was like,

I thought it was a real machine. I was excited for the AI-generated haircut, and I was fooled by that. So there's two fun instances, we are entering in 2026 is the year of the post-truth era.

Adam Brotman (13:44)
with your

Rose Kelly (13:55)
Yeah. And it's scary, especially thinking about the midterms about what could be out there.

Adam Brotman (14:00)
Yeah, just a postscript on Andy's point. One is, I was impressed with your bravery, Andy, that you would stick your head in some hair cutting machine like that. But the good thing is AI.

Andy Sack (14:10)
I was excited,

not only did I want to do it, I wanted to buy the machine.

Adam Brotman (14:15)
I know you were, I was like, you're brave. I mean, that's not real, but you're brave. The second thing I'd say is related to this topic is just worth noting for everybody. I think last week was the first time or one of the first times that an AI song cracked the top. I don't know if it's the top spot or just a top part of a, one of the billboard charts in, in, in a country category. And, you know, it's, ⁓ it was a good song.

Rose Kelly (14:38)
countries.

Adam Brotman (14:44)
it's it's images, it's videos, it's music. And we're entering into just this weird like post truth post, you know, clarity era. And we're all going to adjust.

Andy Sack (14:57)
I'll add that I think this post-truth and this, I guess, post-truth disinformation, it's going to be, we didn't mention it when we talked about the backlash and the anti-AI sentiment. I think it's going to be a real part of.

And I don't know what the societal response, because we do need a response to be able to know, that's a real video. I mean, it's just, or a real image. So I don't know what the solution is. I often say that it might involve blockchain, but I really don't know what's going to happen. And it really could create a lot of chaos.

Adam Brotman (15:34)
Yeah, at a minimum, I hope that people in 2026, I'll make a, I'll make a impromptu prediction that there needs to be some norm or heuristic of some sort that gets developed, even though it's not going to be perfect. It's not gonna be like blockchain perfect in terms of verifiable where people, if somebody puts hashtag not AI or something that it's at least puts the credibility of the publisher on the line.

that they believe it's not AI or they they're telling you this is a real photo. I mean, you're talking about like Nano Banana Pro can create pictures of like the three of us at some event in Las Vegas and we weren't even there, right? Like in other words, it's for social. It's not just like deep fakes. It's even just like within the norm of like photo sharing and social media. it's where yeah, I definitely this is a good topic. There's something you can tell from the way we spend extra time on it. This is a this is a meaty one for

2026.

Rose Kelly (16:31)
Yeah, it's pretty wild. Okay, switching gears a little bit talking about kind of work. You mentioned this a little bit. I think, Adam, you mentioned it, but will AI create an employment cliff in 2026 where hiring falls off? Andy, do you want to start?

Andy Sack (16:46)
Will there be an employment cliff? No, I don't want to start off, Adam, you start.

Adam Brotman (16:55)
I don't think that will happen in a cliff in 2026, either of just people stopping hiring or mass firings. do not think that happens in 2026. I hope I'm right, by the way. I don't because I feel like that's coming. I don't think it's coming in 2026. feel like there's just too much. I mean, think about all these data centers are getting built and there's just

a lot of stimulus that's coming from the latest bill that came through Congress. There's just a lot of stuff that will counteract it and maybe, dare I say the word, obfuscate the reality of what's going on in the workplace, which is that you don't need to hire as many people and you don't need as many people to get things done. And that's going to cause, in my opinion, a problem. I don't think it'll be a major problem in 26. But I'm guessing my buddy Andy is going to take the other side of that, but we'll see.

Andy Sack (17:47)
No,

I paused for a moment because I've spent, I didn't know what I wanted to say on this and then I handed it over to you, Adam.

Here's what I'll say, because I have done a fair amount of deep research. I've done a lot of thinking with AI on this topic, because I'm super interested in the implications to the labor markets as a result of AI. And I'm going to come down on the prediction as no, in 2026, there's not going to be an employment cliff. When I say that, that is my belief. It's not really shirking. It's sidestepping the issue a little bit, which is,

With COVID, we had an employment cliff. People got laid off over a 30, 60 day period of time, and that was a real cliff. With AI, the line of employment is going to be a much more gradual.

readjustment than an actual cliff. So that's point one. Point two is that I think in 2026, it starts with a, and you're already seeing this at the end of 25, with a slowing of hiring first. And then, and I think 26 is going to be, continue to be the age of human plus AI rather than just AI. So I think replacement comes in 27 and 28 more than in 26.

Thanks.

Rose Kelly (19:09)
Okay, sticking with work, let's talk a little bit about ChachiBT. I know we've all been excited about Gemini 3. Do you think by the end of 2026, is ChachiBT still the default AI tool at work?

Adam Brotman (19:23)
That's a great question. Sure.

Rose Kelly (19:25)
I don't want to it.

Adam Brotman (19:27)
I would say yes, my prediction is yes. I do feel like it's, but it's getting splintered in what I'd say is that you've got not just is it getting, I don't think it's a binary. I think it's a multi-party, multi-player game, if you will. I Claude, as we've seen, continues to dominate. I still think they're gonna continue to dominate as the coding tool.

AI coding tool of choice that maybe sits underneath a cursor or or or maybe just you raw you raw use it with cloud code. But man is codex from GPT, chat, GPT, supposedly amazing and Gemini three is incredible at coding. I grok's good at coding. So I mean, I think it's like there's a question around coding in the workplace. There's a question around what is your sort of default enterprise tool between copilot chat, GPT

Gemini, feel like those are the three or Google workspace with Gemini. I those are the three real choices. I still think it's going to be Chat GBT, although it's interesting a side question and I'll let you let Andy answer is like where does Microsoft and Copilot come out in all this and and actually I wonder if on a raw numbers if they just if they if they have way more quote-unquote users in the enterprise then

Rose Kelly (20:39)
Yeah.

Adam Brotman (20:48)
ChatGPT does in the enterprise. I wonder, I've never seen that, those numbers. So think you had to look at it from like different angles between Copilot, Cloud Code, if you will, and ChatGPT and then Gemini. And it's complicated. my short answer would be yes. I think that we're still going to be saying if you have to pick one default tool in the enterprise and you want the best one for the enterprise, pick ChatGPT. I think we'll be saying that through 2026, but man is Google.

making a run at it and you know don't count Microsoft out either.

Rose Kelly (21:21)
Andy?

Andy Sack (21:22)
Yeah,

Adam Brotman (21:22)
end

it.

Andy Sack (21:23)
I'll answer and I'll say that ChatGPT is the default use in the enterprise and they actually make even a stronger play in the enterprise. And I'm going to predict even further that they have filed for their IPO successfully in 2026. If they don't in 2026,

Microsoft swoops in and buys them. That's my prediction. So all fronts, Chachiputti is the leader of enterprise, of LLM usage in the enterprise going public. And if not, they're bought by Microsoft.

Rose Kelly (21:59)
I'm going to put it back on you. are your thoughts on the IPO?

Adam Brotman (22:01)
I love Andy's prediction chutzpah, but I think that it's not going to happen in 2026. But I know Andy said it.

Andy Sack (22:08)
I may not either,

but for the prediction episode, I think it's the right call.

Adam Brotman (22:12)
Yeah,

no, I actually think it's interesting. yeah. And I actually, like, I was actually just in a text exchange with Andy or email exchanges with two of you about, it's fascinating because Claude is doing so well with coders and, and, you know, it gets oversimplified to being like, they're the B2B leader, but it's mostly because of what they do with coding and, ⁓ and they're the developers.

Rose Kelly (22:14)
I like the boldness.

Adam Brotman (22:39)
every company has got developers, which is like every company practically. They're using code, sorry, cloud code. And so I'm fascinated by like Anthropic on its own. Anthropic plus Microsoft would be amazing. But then I'm agreeing with Andy that that would be a move by Microsoft, a strong one. And so I'm not predicting it's going to happen, but I'm...

That whole topic is so interesting to me as we go into 2026.

Rose Kelly (23:06)
Yeah, especially when you look back at all that happened in 2025, it's hard to imagine what end of the year is going to look like.

Adam Brotman (23:12)
Yeah, especially with

Gemini. Google, I mean, I don't think any, I mean, I could be wrong. I don't think anything's gonna happen between now and Jan one. That'd be fascinating to see if anything does of Jan one of 2026. So that means at the end of the year is Google, you know, hitting a long three point shot to like take the lead in some interesting ways, but the game's not over by any stretch. let's, let's see. And again, I'm fascinated to see what, and maybe this is a topic we're to talk about.

what happens in 2026, if anything, with OpenAI and this whole Johnny Ive stuff that's going on around a consumer device. and you you got to imagine ChachiBT6 is cooking in some oven somewhere. So just, this is going to be a fascinating year between Apple, Google, OpenAI, Microsoft, Anthropic, know, Grok is sitting back there. So there's a lot of interesting moving pieces here going into 2026.

Rose Kelly (24:08)
So it's not exactly the Johnny Hive question, but it is related. So next up, in 2026, does voice first conversational AI become a mainstream way people interact with technology at work and home? So not just like a demo on a stage, do you think that voice becomes a way that people are interacting more? Andy?

Andy Sack (24:27)
Sure, yes. 2026 is the year of voice in the spirit of prediction episodes. Yeah. I mean, it's a much more natural way of interfacing with computers. You know, I'm older. I'm sort of the old dog. But I have the new trick. I love voice mode. And I think that while I still find myself resorting to writing,

I think that it's a much more natural play. yeah, 26 is the year of voice and the death of the keyboard.

Adam Brotman (24:58)
I'll take the other side of that just because I don't think it's going to happen in that fact. I do believe in that generally. So I agree with Andy, the sentiment that Andy said. I don't think it's going happen in 26 for a couple of reasons. But here's the thing to keep an eye on for everybody that's listening. One is, if Apple actually, the rumor is that, and I guess maybe it's more than a rumor, but the reporting is that Apple has done a deal for now with Google Gemini.

And they've got Gemini 3 that's going to be connected to Siri and perhaps beyond Siri, just overall like Siri Plus. And as I'm saying that Siri on my phone is trying to light up and wanting to know what I'm asking. And that could be a huge game changer to make Andy's prediction a yes. If that happens and everyone's just talking to their iPhone about everything and it's like, that could happen. So Apple alone through iOS and their deal could make it happen.

It's worth noting that, and I've actually read some stuff about this this weekend, the voice mode of ChatGBT and Gemini and all these other models, they're using the older models. And so they're sort of leaving advanced voice mode behind in some ways while they advance their models and advance their system. So I actually think that long term this will happen to be a default way of interacting with the

AI and computers and our phones and technology in general. I think it's not going to happen in 26 as a default, but keep your eye on Apple and Siri and Gemini. And I think it's coming. I just don't think it's going to happen in 26

Rose Kelly (26:33)
On a related note, you think that Johnny Ive's hardware is going to launch in 2026 and any thoughts on what it'll be?

Adam?

Adam Brotman (26:40)
I would say this. I don't know about launch, but be announced. I think we're getting into a place right now where OpenAI holds a very important position. One that I'm not sure they want to hold, but I'm guessing they do, which is that they, you know, lot's riding on the success of OpenAI in terms of the AI stock trade, in terms of

how people feel about the space and I believe that they have the potential to do something special with Johnny Ive obviously and wearables or a device or whatever it is. I gotta imagine they're gonna wanna get that vision out in front of the world ASAP given the, you know, sort of the vibe check at the end of the year here with Gemini. And I'm a fan of

OpenAI and chat to BT in terms of like their capabilities, in terms of their ability to always impress in terms of their product abilities. And that's, that's a key thing to focus on is, they may be the best product company, in some senses of the whole group right now, in terms of the user interface and, some of those things. And, and that could carry an enormous amount of weight and you throw the Johnny Ive thing in there and I so yes, I think in 26, we're going to see what that is.

And it's going to help them, is my prediction, sort of dust themselves off from whatever happened at the end of this year and do quite well in 2026. I'm a believer in the company.

Rose Kelly (28:02)
Andy, anything to add on that note?

Andy Sack (28:04)
think we're at 20. I'll broaden it and say 2026 is the year of AI devices, and of which John E.I.s will be one, I mean, OpenAI will be one. And I think that it's, you know, it's intricately tied with the last topic of, will voice be the predominant interface? So yeah, I think there's going to be ambient listening devices.

and ambient AI devices that enable a consumer to interact with AI in different ways, including meta glasses. So I think 26 will see the first. I don't think we'll see a dominant position. Typically, in these things, people get them wrong at first. But we're going to see those come out, and that's going to be a major trend in 26.

Rose Kelly (28:49)
Okay, so sticking with hardware, let's talk about robots. Do you think 2026 will be the year that you see a humanoid robot out in the wild, like walking down the street in Seattle or New York? Andy?

Andy Sack (29:02)
I mean,

you're asking me in a week where I've just seen the first Waymo's in Seattle. I know they've been in San Francisco and in Scottsdale and Phoenix, but Waymo is now here. And I like the description of Tesla's auto drive as really just automated robots on wheels. So I think we've already seen it. I think.

It's interesting. Do I think 26 is the year of the robot? I don't. I think that's going to be saved for next year's prediction.

Rose Kelly (29:33)
Okay, so you don't think we'll see humanoid robots out in the wild? Yes. Okay.

Adam Brotman (29:34)
Yeah.

Andy Sack (29:37)
I don't. Other

than Waymo and Auto Drive.

Rose Kelly (29:41)
Yeah.

Adam Brotman (29:42)
Yeah, I agree

with that. I think Andy's take was spot on. think it's it's you're going to at this time next year, we're going to be predicting yes to that in twenty seven and for twenty six. I don't think we'll see him. I've heard that they're talking about trying to get the production line ready by this time next year at Optimus Tesla. And, you know, I don't know about figure and some others. There's these other bunch of them. I don't.

I think 27 will be that year. think, but we'll, it'll come close in 26 and Andy's totally right to tie it to robots that drive us around called autonomous driving, Teslas and Waymos and whatnot. And I think that is being, that's an underplayed story in 25. I think that's that story of autonomous driving and the implications of it are going to be huge in 26.

And kudos to Tesla from what I've heard about their most recent full self-driving. I've heard it's incredible. Andrei Karpathy made a comment that said it's here, we're there. And so I think that's gonna be a big story in 26. So I agree with Andy.

Andy Sack (30:48)
I love that line, it's here, we're there.

Adam Brotman (30:51)
Hahaha

Rose Kelly (30:52)
Okay, that was the last question I had. Do you guys have any last kind of, I don't know, statements for what you think you're gonna see in 2026? Anything you didn't get to say that you wanted to say about what you're thinking about for next year? Adam?

Adam Brotman (31:05)
I would just end by saying something that we said, Andy said at the beginning of the show, which is that I, when we talked about the bubble, don't, I think next year is the year that a lot more discussion happens about the fact that we are at the beginning of a new industrial type revolution or some kind of revolution. And I, and not in a hypey way, like in a fully like calm,

you know, in serious way. think it's gonna, I think it will engender more serious conversations. People will stop talking about, is this real or not? Or it's like, it's happening. And I think we, I think next year it'll start dawning on more people how serious this is. Like, it's not all good. It's not all bad. but it's fundamentally gonna change a lot of, a lot of aspects of society.

And, you know, I'm ⁓ eager not to end on a, I don't mean this to be negative or overly serious, but I'm eager for us to have more serious conversations about what's going on. And I'd say that from someone who like has been focused on the enterprise use of this and AI first things. And I, you know, my guess is that there's a, my final prediction is that that does happen in 2026, that we, that there's more documentaries and TV shows and

And conversations about having conversations about the implications of this that hasn't happened enough. Remember Oprah Winfrey had that one special about AI. I thought it was wonderful. I thought it was like, why are we not seeing more of that? Like, it's weird to me that we're not seeing more people talking about it at that level and and recognizing that we got some serious like discussions to have around what this means for us all. So I predict that that's that's a big theme. Yeah, more more serious conversations.

Rose Kelly (32:48)
Yeah, like honest platform organizations.

Adam Brotman (32:53)
are gonna have to to happen. And I think they will happen because I think like this Gemini three moment was kind of like a GPT four moment a little bit for people. and, and, you know, so there you go. Here we are, whatever I said, Andy, that's, that's the line.

Rose Kelly (33:07)
Andy,

last word from you in 2026?

Andy Sack (33:11)
I mean, I want

to say I want to end with saying Happy New Year. However, I'll save that for a moment. I referencing think that a couple of things that we didn't that we've highlighted previously that I want to highlight again in the predictions episode.

I do think there'll be serious conversation about how AI impacts democracy. We had a mini episode on Al-Ghraisi versus democracy, and I thought that was a really good episode. And I do think that that's a critical topic, certainly for the country and the world. So I think that will happen in 26 more because I do think 26 is really where the...

disinformation, misinformation that we talked about in this episode, coupled with the regulatory, coupled with the human backlash, it's going to be a chaotic year. AI plays a role, and the pace of the AI development plays a role in creating that chaos. And so I think those two things are worth highlighting. And the other one, which we didn't cover in prep, is

There was that news item a month ago where there was the state-sponsored and fraud in the US. I think the rise of AI fraud is going to happen in a major way. so it's just like AI touches everything and it has such global political implications that

26 is good. We're going to see that play out.

Happy New Year.

Adam Brotman (34:44)
On that note.

Rose Kelly (34:45)
I know.

Andy Sack (34:46)
No, it's like, look, we've been

Rose Kelly (34:47)
positive will make it not.

Andy Sack (34:49)
we were such proponents of AI as an underutilized misunderstood tool in by consumers and specifically enterprise like we just all three of us use it all day every day. And we were passionate about it. And we extol the virtues of it. And we think it's an incredible tool.

but not lost with that, those advancements, the tool has lots of other impacts on all aspects of our lives. And that is going to accelerate in 26.

Well, thank you, Rose, for helping us with this episode. And thank you all for listening. Hopefully you enjoyed the Predictions 2026 episode.

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