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GoldBoys Network Presents: Shoulda Bet More with Will Hill! A podcast that breaks down current events in sports, big sports betting news, we'll bring on a bunch of different guests, and break down the weekly betting slate to the point where you'll feel like you "shoulda bet more."
This is the Should Have It More podcast presented by Gold Boys Network. Here's your host, Will Hill. Welcome to the Should Have It More podcast presented by Goalboys. Coming up on the show, Tommy Lorenzo of the cover the weekend podcast will join us. We'll break down the World Series.
Will Hill:We'll get the dodgers perspective. He is an LA guy, a sharp bettor. So excited to talk to time, and I'm excited about this World Series. I'll get to that in a minute. Just quickly, the Thursday night football.
Will Hill:I said a couple days ago, I thought this is a tough spot for the Vikings, and I like the Rams. It was a tough spot. The Rams win the game. Ends up being 30 to 20. And if you had the over, under, whatever he had on the, the total, if it was at 48, boy, you you got a break at the end because the Rams get a safety to push in 30, 20.
Will Hill:And how they missed this call, I have no idea. Now look. Minnesota was down 8 on their own 5. The face mask would have pushed them to the 20. You still have to go 80 yards with a minute change, no timeouts, and get the 2 and win in overtime.
Will Hill:So the Vikings were not winning this game. But how you how you missed that call with all the reviews they have in the NFL, with this replay assist they have, with everything that they you know, everything's under a microscope, and how you miss that is just completely embarrassing. But the Vikings were not good. They lose the offensive line, and Darusson, he gets hurt. The Vikings are just trying to run out the clock, Vikings probably better off, you know, kneeing or sneaking it, not, running plays in that situation.
Will Hill:But the Vikings just they're they're not that good defensively. You wonder how they got, the record they got in, the, you know, the 1st 4 or 5 weeks when they went undefeated, they were 5 and o heading into last week. You just wonder how they were that dominant because there are all sorts of holes defensively. They don't get a lot of push up front. There are guys wide open running, all over that secondary.
Will Hill:I mean, you Stafford, it was just pitching catch all night, with those receivers, Kupp and Nikkui just could not cover anybody. So, life changes fast in the NFL. Life comes at you quick because just a few days ago, the Vikings are 5 and o. They're beating Detroit, and they have the ball with a couple minutes left. And if they win that game, they're 2 and a half plus games up on everybody in the NFC, in the division, in the conference, you name it.
Will Hill:They would have been undefeated. Everybody else would have 2 plus losses, and they would have tiebreakers. Now you look up. They're 5 and 2, and they just don't look like a real contender. That's still be a playoff team because they're gonna bank enough wins with the head start and with their schedule.
Will Hill:They'll get to their 9, 10 wins and, you know, make the playoffs. But the fact that, the idea that this team's gonna be like an NFC title team or an, Super Bowl team, that is starting to look like it was, it was far fetched. So Rams win, they're back in the mix in the NFC West, which is wide open. Vikings, a a tough night. I know that was a tough spot, but that was a a bad look.
Will Hill:Just they don't look very good defensively. They can move the ball, but, just all sorts of holes defensively. You saw it Sunday against the Lions. You saw it again, Thursday night. But we are finally here.
Will Hill:By the time you listen to this, it is going to be day 1 of the World Series. We are finally here, and, boy, these 4 days, they drag because like I was saying the other day, you you get used to watching the baseball day in, day out. It's a day in, day out sport, you know, throughout the season, throughout the summer, throughout the postseason. Just one day leads the next. So I have 4 days off feels like an eternity.
Will Hill:You know, 5 days off if you're a Yankee fan. Yankees haven't played since last Saturday. Yankees almost gave me a full week off here. But I'll go back to what I said, and that that is I just as excited as I am for this series, from a Yankees perspective, I don't think they're gonna win. I just think there's enough there's too many holes in the pitch in the pitching stat.
Will Hill:There's just not enough arms to fill the innings with quality, you know, quality pitching when you're only getting 4, 5, 6 of the most innings from your starter, and you don't have Cole at the top of his game, which he has not been. He was the Cy Young winner last year. He has not been that this year. He was hurt to start the year. He's just never gotten back on track.
Will Hill:He's never he hasn't thrown as hard. He's been good in spots. He hasn't been great. He kinda gets by with, you know, his breaking stuff, and he can locate, and he's smart. He knows how to pitch, but he has not been the dominant goal.
Will Hill:If you're not getting that version, Rodon can be good, but you don't really trust him. Schmidt, look. He's a he's a 4, 5 inning guy. Heals a 4, 5 inning guy. And if you're gonna throw these 4, 5 inning guys, you just are you really gonna get lights out performances with this bullpen against this dodger lineup?
Will Hill:I think that's hard to, you know, I I think that's a stretch. I think it's hard to, predict here, and we'll we'll see what we get from the Yankee offense. This is Yankee offense that, look, they, exploded against Cleveland in some spots where, look, you got a lot out of state, and you got So to. You got your Torres perform well. You didn't get a ton out of, you know, the Volpes, Rizzos, Verdugo's, the bottom of the lineup wells, but you got just enough where, hey, you got something out of them.
Will Hill:And if you're gonna get the production from the top the, you know, the stars, all you need is a little something, which is what they got. So, you know, can Judge have a a monster breakout playoff where he's had a he had a couple home runs against Cleveland, but can he have that, you know, 5 homers in 4 games type of performance? I think you're gonna need that from Judge. You're gonna need Cole to be the, you know, 6, 7 innings, 1 run Cole. I I think you're gonna need those top tier guys to to play up to their potential because I think the dodgers have a better deeper roster.
Will Hill:Now look, I don't think the dodgers are gonna sweep or anything. I I'll picking Dodgers in 7. As a Yankee fan, I'm hope I hope I'm wrong, but I just think the Yankees I mean, look, we talked about all summer that how this team has holes. And I I don't know that, you know, beating Kansas City and beating Cleveland makes those things just completely go away. You're now getting Cortez back.
Will Hill:If you can give him some innings here and there and be productive, that that helps. But I I do ultimately think it's gonna be the dodgers. And, man, just trying to think back in terms of, like, most anticipated world series. First of all, this is the first time in world series history. You have 5 MVPs in the world series.
Will Hill:The the we've had 4 MVPs in a world series. I think the last time was 1981, so even that's been a while. We're gonna have both MVPs of each league in the world series for the first time since 2012 because Ohtani is gonna win the nationally. Judge is gonna win it in the American League. So that's something we haven't had in over a decade.
Will Hill:You got the 2 best records in baseball with the Yankees and the Dodgers. You've got obviously, there's the the the history, the tradition. This is the 12th time meeting in the World Series. You know, just so much here that you you love it. I I can't think of a World Series in my lifetime that's been this anticipated.
Will Hill:Now there's been World Series that ended up being classics. The Yankees, Diamondbacks in 2001, that went 7. Yankees going for, the 4 peat losing in the bottom of the ninth with Rivera. That was a great World Series, but I don't know if it was it it wasn't as anticipated as this one. You know, the Dodgers Astros played a great World Series.
Will Hill:I guess the Cubs and the Guardians because of the Cubs, you know, breaking their streak, breaking their drought, that was anticipated, but was it as anticipated as this? Probably not. You know, Red Sox, Cardinals for the same sort of thing in 2004 with the Red Sox hadn't won in, you know, 80 something years. That that's on the shortlist. But, again, when Yankees, Dodgers, Betts, Ohtani, Judge, So to, Stanton, it's just it's an embarrassment of riches just in terms of storylines, in terms of superstars.
Will Hill:There's so much talent on both sides, so much tradition, so much history on both sides. This is just a dream world series. I'm sure it's gonna do absolute monster rating here. Now I don't think the layoff helps. The fact that there's, you know, 4 days, I I don't sometimes you think, hey, man.
Will Hill:It's out of out of sight, out of mind after you haven't been playing for this long. But, you know, maybe you can make the case that it gives a gives gives some build up, creates the tension, creates the drama of people, you know, counting down and looking forward to this series. So I'm excited for it. I'm ultimately gonna pick Dodgers in 7, like I said. I wouldn't be shocked if the Yankees won.
Will Hill:Yankees have played pretty well here. I mean, even though it's against lesser competition, they are still you know what? 66 and 2 in the playoffs. They beat Cleveland 4 to 1, and they beat Kansas City 2 to 1. So, you know, 6 and 2 in the playoffs.
Will Hill:It it hasn't felt that easy because there were tense moments against Kansas City, 1 one series. Game 3 was close. Game 4 was close. Both those games pretty much could have gone either way. Against Cleveland, you know, you're up to 1 in game 4.
Will Hill:It could have gone either way, and you were losing in game 5. So it hasn't felt as odd. They won this one and, you know, they won the Kansas City series 3 games to 1, and they won the Cleveland series 4 games to 1. It it hasn't felt as easy as it sounds when you you put it that way, but, it's it has been an impressive performance from the Yankees for a number of reasons, especially the dominance from Stanton, you know, DeSoto at bats, and and some of the contributions from the other guys. So excited for it.
Will Hill:It's gonna be Cole versus Flaherty. Yankees a slight underdog. Dodgers, like, minus 120, minus 125, depending on where you look, and around that same price for the series. So dodgers are slight favorite. Dodgers are a a slight favorite.
Will Hill:I mean, it's basically they're telling you these teams are dead even and that the the price difference here is just home field advantage. Because if the Yankees were home yankees at home field, in game 1 and and for the series, the Yankees will probably be slight favorites. That's the only, difference in this number. And I don't know. I I I don't know that that's, that's properly priced.
Will Hill:I do think the dodgers I mean, you don't make home field in baseball what you do in basketball and football clearly, but I do think the Dodgers are ticked better and you give them something for home field. So I do think this line should, should probably be a little higher. But, again, you're never gonna make the Yankees like a plus 120, 130, 140 under. You're just not gonna hang that big of a plus number in in front of the Yankees? That's just not, you know, how these books operate.
Will Hill:They know the Yankees are a public team, and people are gonna bet the Yankees especially when they can get a plus price. So I'm excited for it. We'll talk to Tommy Lorenzo, get his perspective. He is an LA guy, so excited to talk to him. That is next.
Will Hill:This. So it should have been more podcast. Alright. We are back. Should have been more podcast.
Will Hill:Cover the weekend is the name of the podcast. He is the host. He is Tommy Lorenzo, first time guest. Excited to have him on. Tommy, what's up, man?
Will Hill:Exciting time of the year. How's everything?
Tommy Lorenzo:Everything's great. Even better that the Dodgers are in the World Series, so I'm excited. College football, NFL, and this extra treat of having, the Dodgers in, the World Series this time of year is pretty cool.
Will Hill:I'm a Yankees guy, so my audience gets to hear me blabber all year about the Yankees, so it's good to have a Dodgers perspective. And I'll just, I'll leave the floor open to you. Game 1 is about Dodgers minus 125, series around Dodgers minus 125, minus 130. What are your general thoughts here on this series and and game 1?
Tommy Lorenzo:Well, I mean, the series in this is flip flip a coin to me. This is gonna be a very good world series. Plus you got some weaknesses and strengths on both sides. It's just a matter of who's gonna step up and and be clutch over the 7 games if it goes that far. As far as game one goes, I've been really focusing on that, and I think there's gonna be run scores.
Tommy Lorenzo:I I think there's a lot of questions with Gary Cole and Flaherty, as the starters. And I think the bats continue to roll for both teams. I think a lot of runs will be scored. These these pitching staffs as well, the bullpens, they've been doing great, man, but they're taxed. I mean, it it's at a point now where you know that, you know, they've been, they've been going, you know, full effort in both of their series.
Tommy Lorenzo:I think the Yankees maybe had a little bit of an easier time of it with their matchup, but regardless, it's still playoff baseball. And I think the pictures are gonna be a little taxed going into here, and I give the the hitters an advantage for sure.
Will Hill:So it sounds like you're leaning over in game 1?
Tommy Lorenzo:I am. I'm looking over 4 and a half first five innings and over 8 and a half, for the game. Like I said, I think for Gerrit Cole, this is a a class jump for him. Not knocking the Guardians or Royals at all, but, you know, what the Dodgers bring to the lineup is a much different animal than those teams. Not only that, but getting on base, stealing bases, and, know, Gerrit Cole is not the Gerrit Cole of old, but he's still been solid.
Tommy Lorenzo:He knows how to pitch. But when guys get on and guys are moving around, you know, his numbers kind of inflate a little bit. And, I think that's gonna be key for the Dodgers. If they can continue to work the count, get on base, start sealing bases, that's gonna be big. But there's a lot of questions with Flaherty too.
Tommy Lorenzo:You know, the Yankees hitters are hitting over 300 again. Some of the sample size isn't very big. It's about 60 at bats. But, I think the Yankees will hit him as well. So it's just a matter of, I think, midway through the game, whatever bullpen is ready to kinda assert themselves, and who actually just gets more runs, which is, you know, obvious stating the obvious, of course, but I think the hitters are gonna really, dictate what happens in in game 1 at least.
Will Hill:Yeah. It's interesting because if you remember right around the deadline, it was rumored that they the Yankees were pretty close to acquiring Flaherty. And then last second, he goes to the Dodgers. So, that's kind of a, you know, swing doors will move. If he was on the Yankees, man, with all the Dodgers pitching injuries, you wonder if they have enough pitching to be here.
Will Hill:And, yeah, you mentioned that, Flaherty was great in game 1 against the Mets, bad in his second start. And Cole look. He he guts through these starts, but he was hurt to start the year, and he just look. He won the Cy Young last year. He has not been he's just never gotten back to being Gerrit Cole.
Will Hill:I don't know if he's a 100%. He just you know, you see him 95, 96. You don't see him, you know, up flirting with triple digits where his stuff is a plus. He's been okay at times. He's been good at times.
Will Hill:He just hasn't been great.
Tommy Lorenzo:Yeah. I think it's funny because I think Walker Buehler's kind of in that same track. You know, Buehler came back, wasn't the same after coming back from injury, but now you're starting to see flashes that he may be there. And and, again, I think Garrett Cole just knows how to pitch. It reminds me of Shane Bieber.
Tommy Lorenzo:Got hurt, came back, you know, got hurt again. But when Shane Bieber came back, he didn't have the same velocity, but, he knew how to pitch and and he can you know, he was able to get out. But I'm a little worried as a Dodger fan about Flaherty. Apparently, he's under the weather in his last start, so we'll see how it goes here. But flat out Yankee hitters can hit, and there's a particular guy I'm a little worried about in terms of, as a Dodger fan.
Will Hill:But would would that be judged? Would that be who who hasn't been who hasn't gotten on track yet? So to has the best at bats. Stanton can get nuclear like nobody else does. Which one of the 3, or is it somebody else?
Tommy Lorenzo:It's somebody else. I think it's Rizzo, man. You know? Anthony Rizzo has been clutch all his career in the playoffs. 6 for 13, 6 for 14, hit over 400.
Tommy Lorenzo:You know, he's got that finger issue, but he's locked in. He's seeing the ball really well, and he's facing righties. He's gonna get Yamamoto. He's gonna get Flaherty. He's gonna get Buehler, 100 to 1 MVP, World Series MVP.
Tommy Lorenzo:I'll throw a few bucks at them and and see what happens. Of course, you you figure So to, Judge, even Stanton the way he's hitting right now. Those guys obviously are are the, the morning line favorites. Feels a horse race, but I think if you're looking for a long shot, I don't think it'd be a bad move. I saw Rizzo up at a 100 to 1 at a couple spots, and I I think it's definitely worth it.
Tommy Lorenzo:I just don't know if the power's there with his injury, but he's seeing the ball and he's hitting. So
Will Hill:Yeah. No. He he's hit the ball well here, better than I expected. Like you said, he's not really driving the ball. And in order to win this award, yeah, you you figure you probably have to drive a few out of the ballpark.
Will Hill:It's hard to win this award with singles. Anybody else in terms of NDP interest you in in a a long shot sleep or anyone you think has value?
Tommy Lorenzo:Yeah. I mean, you obviously I mean, what I do is look at double digit guys. I mean, anyone could put money on Ohtanya plus 200 or judge it plus 400, but Max Muncy, he's got an OPS over a 1000 in the playoffs, seeing the ball well. And when he gets hot and the power comes, you know, if he gets off to a good start in the first couple games at Dodger Stadium, and he gets to Yankee Stadium, I think his hitting style, is picture picture perfect for for Yankee Stadium. One thing interesting with Muncie is that he doesn't have an at bat at Yankee Stadium.
Tommy Lorenzo:He's been hurt and he's just missed playing there. So it's kind of a mystery, you know, in terms of, you know, there's no history on him how he's hit there, how he sees the ball there. But in terms of his batting style, you know, if he gets behind a few of them, he can he can be dangerous. Best price I saw on him is 16 to 1. There's a lot of 10 to ones out there.
Tommy Lorenzo:I think BetMGM and FanDuel had them at at 16 to 1. So looking at double digit guys, Muncie's another guy I would look at.
Will Hill:I'm trying to think of when the Dodgers came to you because, obviously, they came there earlier this season. Dodgers won 2 out of 3. They won the first two, lost the 3rd. That was without So to. I remember it was the year Rio was really good.
Will Hill:So that was maybe 2019, but they played in LA. 2020, nobody played, outside of, like, the AOEs versus the NLE. So I'm trying to think the last time the Dodgers came to Yankee Stadium other than this year. So, yeah, that's an interesting, interesting nugget about Muncie.
Tommy Lorenzo:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The oblique injury and missed the games in New York this year. But, the thing with Muncie and I've been obviously as a dodger fan watching him.
Tommy Lorenzo:If he gets hot, it just comes in bunches. He just hammers the ball. So at 16 to 1, I I don't think it's the worst out in the world.
Will Hill:Who are you leaning towards winning the series and how many games?
Tommy Lorenzo:Well, here's the thing. You know, I'll take my dodger cap off. And I think the dodgers have gone through the gauntlet. They've they've beaten the Padres. They've beaten the Mets.
Tommy Lorenzo:I don't think the Yankees have been necessarily challenged. Again, I'm not knocking the royals and the guardian, especially the guardian. They're a scrappy team and tough. Everyone's on the Yankees, Will. Everyone's on the Yankees.
Tommy Lorenzo:And I don't know it's because they're getting plus money on them to win the series. Maybe that's what has everyone leaning to them, and I can understand that. The I think this is gonna go 7 games. And I think coming back to LA in the home field advantage may be enough. But, again, I I just need to see what these bullpens are completely taxed.
Tommy Lorenzo:So it's just a battle of attrition, really. It's what it's gonna be. If you're gonna pin me down, it's hard not to be biased. But I do think, I I I I do lean the Dodgers. If you gave me some money and say bet them, I would lean Dodgers pretty hard.
Tommy Lorenzo:But a lot of people and a lot of people that know their stuff think the Yankees are gonna get it done. So but this is what it's all about. This is the kind of series you want. 2 really good teams, good hitters, great stories, and you ask a bunch of people and, you know, you get different opinions on it. And no offense to any Rangers fans or Dbacks fans Yeah.
Tommy Lorenzo:Compared to last year. This is a this is a different ballgame, pardon the pun. So it should be it should be a lot of fun.
Will Hill:That's a good question. This is the most anticipated world series since when? Fill in the blank.
Tommy Lorenzo:Holy cow. Maybe oh,
Will Hill:that's 5 MVPs. That's the you know, 12th time they're playing in the world series. New York versus LA, the uniforms, the ballpark. I mean, this is probably the most anticipated one. I'm 39.
Will Hill:It's probably the most anticipated one of my lifetime. I I don't know.
Tommy Lorenzo:I think you get yeah. When you say anticipated, of course, there's been world series that have emerged to be great series. You know, maybe the subway series for the East Coast folks, you know, some time ago. But for me, as a dodger fan, yeah, that we had the COVID year, and there's been some other good match ups. I remember vividly 1981, very vividly, as a kid and growing up in LA.
Tommy Lorenzo:And a lot of lot of peep not that, you know, you you became an Angels fan if you lived in Southern California, But with Fernando and, you know, the the run-in the late seventies and that world season 81 with Lasorda and everything else, you it really became a, you know, LA's team, really. You had the Lakers. You had other stuff going, but the Dodgers have always been there. So and for it to be against the Yankees is just unbelievable. It it's awesome.
Will Hill:Dearly in Dodgers in 7, I I my pick was Dodgers in 7 too. I just think the Yankees, you don't get enough length out of the out of the rotation. You don't get enough out of the starters, and there's just not enough quality quantity, arms to to piece together 27 outs. And, again, it's like you said, it's one thing to do it against the royals and the guardians and these Ale Central teams, which I think these Ale Central teams got puffed up by beating the White Sox all year. Boy, Dodgers are different animal, and, you know, to run to the bullpen in the 4th, 5th, 6th inning every night, I just this isn't the Yankees bullpens of old.
Will Hill:I mean, you you hold your breath with Clay Holmes, you hold your breath with the Kaneleys, and, you know, Tim Hill's been pretty good. But is he gonna get Otonnia in big spots? I I I I struggle to, to, you know, to see that over a 7 game series.
Tommy Lorenzo:Yeah. And that's what's fascinating about it. And I agree with you on that. The only thing that worries me as a dodger fan and watching them is that this bullpen has been taxed. The dodger bullpen has had to step up time and time again towards the end of the season and in these series against tough batters, tough streak because the Mets didn't weigh down.
Tommy Lorenzo:I mean, the the Mets were were hitting and and and scrapping. So, yeah, I think the the bullpen edge goes to the Dodgers. But my worry is is, you know, where the, where the fuel level is on that bullpen. We'll see. I it's just gonna be a great series.
Will Hill:Any last thoughts on it before I get your football picks for the weekend?
Tommy Lorenzo:No. Just I like the over in game 1. No Santa Ana winds coming in. It's like the song. Santa Ana coming in from the north, and that's exactly what happens in Dodgers Stadium.
Tommy Lorenzo:You know, the weather's really nice in SoCal right now. You're gonna you're looking at, you know, upper seventies and sun. So, you know, no wind. There's some humidity in the forecast. So I think the ball ball's gonna move in Dodger Stadium, and I like over in the first five innings and also, for the game in game 1.
Will Hill:What are the ticket prices like for those games in LA?
Tommy Lorenzo:I I I I took a look and, you know, I wanna keep one of my kidneys, or both of my kidneys, I should say, so I'm not going to the game. Last I saw was about $1300 a ticket for standing room.
Will Hill:Wow. It's about the same for Yankee Stadium. I started to look, when they were in the ALCS, I started to look, and I look. I knew they'd be expensive, and they Yankees haven't been there in a while, but same sort of thing with the cheapest one, standing room always 12, $1300 where it just, you know, look. Everyone's got their price, whatever, but it it becomes a point where it's just it's hard to justify, especially if you're bringing, you know, kids or family members or whatever point.
Will Hill:Just it it becomes hard to justify.
Tommy Lorenzo:It it really is. Hey. Another option. I know you're a little further, but I can always go to Vegas and put that money down on whatever team I I want and watch it at the sports book. Not as fun as being at the ballpark, but, you know, that's always an option too because that's a lot of money.
Will Hill:It's a lot of money. Plus you can stay home, have a nice meal, and just enjoy the game, you know, in that way. It's it's still the world series. You're still, you know, taking it in. Football, what do you like this weekend?
Will Hill:College, NFL, take whatever direction you want.
Tommy Lorenzo:Yeah. College football, some some good games here. Little chalky on on a couple of these. I I like Notre Dame facing, facing Navy. 12 and a half is where the line was.
Tommy Lorenzo:I got it at 12 and a half. I didn't think this line would keep moving because Navy's getting a lot of money a bit on them, but the line at some places have already moved to minus 14. So I'm glad I got it in minus 12a half. But, right now, I I'd still take it up to up to minus 14. You know, you you got Navy who's, you know, tip of the cap to them.
Tommy Lorenzo:They've been playing great. They've been bit beating whoever they put in front of them, but those are teams like UAB, Temple, Charlotte, Bucknell, and yet there's still 70 1st in the nation defensively, and 80 1st in rushing defense. I think Notre Dame's gonna run the ball all day on Navy. The the the horses just aren't there. And I think Navy will give a good effort, but as the game goes on, I think Notre Dame, pulls away.
Tommy Lorenzo:Notre Dame too has a really good defense at nothing what Navy has seen at all this season. So, I I do think that Navy should, excuse me, Notre Dame, should cover this, pretty easily.
Will Hill:Anything else NFL college wise or just, Notre Dame College.
Tommy Lorenzo:College real quick. Yeah. Like Nebraska, there I think it's too many points, over the last few games. Ohio State, coming off a bye the last few games, 1 and 2 against the spread coming off a bye week. I have Ohio State by 18 or 20.
Tommy Lorenzo:I still think Nebraska has a good rush defense. That's what Ohio State does well. If they can kinda neutralize that, you know, they're not gonna totally shut them down, but enough where I think this doesn't get completely out of control like it did in Indiana. 25 and a half's a little too much. As far as NFL, I like the Colts.
Tommy Lorenzo:I like their offense. I think they're gonna hang with Houston, Plus 5 is a little too much. I have Houston by 3, so I'll take the the couple of points with the Colts, and I like them to to give Houston a game. I don't know if they'll get the win, but I think that game's gonna be very close.
Will Hill:People in LA excited about the Lakers, or are they just sort of worn out by the fact that, hey. They're they're relevant with LeBron and with Davis, but they're not really contender anymore.
Tommy Lorenzo:Yeah. I I think you bull's eye. I think everyone always likes the Lakers. People wanna be at the arena watching them and all that, but I don't think there's that anticipation for a championship run or anything like that. It's LeBron.
Tommy Lorenzo:It's Bronny. It's going to, you know, crypto.com, whatever it's called now. It's not stables anymore. You know, the team still hasn't
Will Hill:the forum to me. I still call it the forum.
Tommy Lorenzo:The the forum. Yeah. That's where, lot of memories of the forum. I was able to to watch the Lakers there a lot, back in the day. But, I mean, yeah, they're still relevant in town.
Tommy Lorenzo:But, honestly, right now, the Dodgers, they rule, man. In in LA, everyone, you know, I was at funny story. I was at Costco the other day, and there was a guy wearing a Yankees hat. Oh, he heard it. And I don't I live just outside of LA, so I don't live right deep in LA anymore.
Tommy Lorenzo:I grew up there. But, oh, man, people are letting them have it, which is kinda cool. Yeah. I mean, it was fun ribbing. There wasn't any, you know, bad stuff going on, but, you know, that's that's kind of the environment now.
Tommy Lorenzo:The the Dodgers really, rule things, in terms of, you know, the the sports market here in LA.
Will Hill:If the Dodgers do lose this series, will the the LA fan will the Dodger fan, you know, want Roberts gone? Will they want changes or let's just say, you know what? We made it to the World Series. Haven't been there in a while. Good year.
Will Hill:Can't really blame anybody. We'll just get them next year.
Tommy Lorenzo:Yeah. I think the Roberts must go narrative has really quieted down. I think them getting to the World Series, you know, the patchwork starting pitching and and everything that's happened. I think it's just the opposite now. I think he's getting a lot of credit and people have laid off.
Tommy Lorenzo:I think if if the Yankees beat them, I don't think there's going to be a, you know, a lot of a lot of people wanting Roberts gone or anything like that. I think he's definitely done enough. Personally, I think he has, and I think people have been a little critical of him. But the job he's done now with all the injuries and everything else, I'm I'm good. Yeah.
Tommy Lorenzo:And be careful what you ask for. Who you know, who's gonna roll into town, and who knows what'll happen then? So I'm I'm cool with Dave Roberts, and I think most folks in town, for the time being are because there was a lot of chatter about, you know, hey. We're not winning World Series with these players. He's gotta go.
Will Hill:Yeah. It would have been tough if they lost to the Padres in the 1st round, which look. They're down 2 1, throwing a bullpen game in San Diego. I I think most people thought they were going home. I thought they were going home.
Will Hill:To lose again in the 1st round after they lost to the Diamondbacks last year, the Padres year before that, it would have been a little bit cruel to be like, man. Team can't get out of the 1st round all of a sudden, but the fact that they're in the World Series, I think, look. You know, worst case, you you know what? You still had a hell over on, and and you can't really go too crazy.
Tommy Lorenzo:Yeah. I think you're exactly right. If that Padres, series would have gone south, yeah, I I think it's very possible there would have been a change, and people would have wanted it. But they got through it, and, you know, actually, I think he's done a good job, with the hand he's been dealt. I mean, he's still I mean, hand he's been dealt.
Tommy Lorenzo:Look at that lineup he's got. But, you know, he still has to manage and and work the bullpen, and he's done a good job. So, you know, right now, getting to the world series against the Yankees, winning is obviously the goal. Falling short would suck, but but certainly nothing to be too sad about given, you know, what's happened to the Dodgers the last few years, you know, petering out early in the playoffs.
Will Hill:Yeah. And the the media seems to like him, seems to be good with the players. You know, he, he's good at dealing with the superstars. So there's a lot to like about Roberts, I think.
Tommy Lorenzo:I think he's a good coach for that team. You know? And and again, especially the way MLB is now, Once you get in the playoffs with injuries and just the the you used to not be the hot team.
Will Hill:Yeah.
Tommy Lorenzo:They used to always be the NFL. But, you know, over the years, it's been, you know, the team that gets hot, avoids injuries. They got good pictures coming back. They've made their runs. So, you know, this one, it's kind of been true to form.
Tommy Lorenzo:The the 2 best teams got there. And, again, man, I have memories from 81. And to have you know, everyone has always talked, wow. Wouldn't it be great to at least in LA, and I'm sure New York. Great to see the Dodgers and Yankees go at it again, and here we are.
Tommy Lorenzo:It's finally happened. As a as I love football. I'm a big college hoops guy, but baseball's been the thing since I was little and so have the Dodgers. So, you know, to see this in my lifetime again, because you don't know, is just fantastic. And and I'm really happy that, and I hope there's more.
Tommy Lorenzo:But with baseball, you never look how long it's taken. 81? It's taken decades for these 2, you know, to these 2 teams to cross paths again. So
Will Hill:Tommy, it'll be a lot of fun. Enjoy it, man. I'm, I can't wait for these games to get started. This has been a long 4 days without baseball. You go from having it every night.
Will Hill:It's like a TV shot. I make this point the other day in the pocket. It's like a TV show where you just can't wait to watch the next episodes to have, you know, 4 days without this in in the postseason. We're used to having it every night. It's been kinda cruel.
Will Hill:It's been kind of, you know, just, tough to get used to not having it. It feels like the season ended, and now we're starting another one. It's just been such a long layoff, but it should be a lot of fun. Appreciate you coming on me and let everyone know where they could find your stuff.
Tommy Lorenzo:Sure. On Twitter at sportsbooktom is where I'm at, and the podcast comes out weekly, cover the weekend.
Will Hill:Appreciate it, man. Thanks for the time. Hopefully, we'll do it again soon.
Tommy Lorenzo:My pleasure, Will. It's a lot of fun, and thanks for having me on.
Will Hill:Alright. That'll do it. Thank you to Tommy Lorenzo. Enjoy the game. Enjoy the World Series.
Will Hill:It should be a great sports weekend. We'll be back Monday to break it all down. Rate, review, subscribe. See you then.