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A special Sunday edition in which Dr. Gerry Crete and Dr. Peter Malinoski reflect on today’s Mass readings from an Internal Family Systems lens.
Fourteenth Sunday in Ordinary Time
Presenters: Drs. Peter Malinoski and Gerry Crete, co-founders of Souls & Hearts
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What is Scripture for Your Inner Outcasts?
In the Gospels, Jesus reaches out to the outcasts, the most marginalized and rejected members of His society. In this very brief podcast, we take His approach inside – to reach out to your inner outcasts, the parts of you who are walking in darkness and gloom. Listen in and invite the Good News in the daily Mass readings to shine on your inner lost sheep, your inner prodigals, your inner lepers, your lame, deaf, and blind parts, your inner tax collectors, and your inner prostitutes – all those parts of you deemed unworthy and unacceptable by your protector parts.
Why? So that you can integrate inside, heal, and grow to flourish in accepting being loved, loving yourself in an ordered way, and then being able to love God wholeheartedly, with all your parts, and your neighbor as yourself. All informed by Internal Family Systems and other parts work approaches, and all firmly grounded in a Catholic understanding of the human person. Join us in seeing Scripture through a new lens, coming alive for those parts of you that may have experienced spiritual neglect and need healing.
This podcast is produced by Souls & Hearts, an organization dedicated to human formation from a Catholic lens. Learn more at soulsandhearts.com.
Transcript
Speaker 1: Come to me, all you who labor and are burdened.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Scripture for your inner outcasts. It's July 5th, 2026, the 14th Sunday in Ordinary Time. Today is a special joint episode of this podcast in which Doctor Peter Malinowski and Doctor Jerry Kriete jointly reflect on today's mass readings.
Speaker 3: Doctor Jerry, it is good to be here with you. We are into the 14th Sunday of Ordinary Time. I know you've reviewed these readings. I've reviewed these readings. What a richness in these readings, especially for our XLS. It's almost like in some ways, some of these verses were just, like, pointed directly at the exiles. Right. Just spoken directly to the exiles.
Speaker 1: So nothing ordinary about the readings?
Speaker 3: That's right. Well, there's a couple of verses that I expect leapt out at you. They leapt out at me. You know, a lot of times we pick up on different things. But I'm, I'm I bet there's a convergence in this in this in these readings about what we focus in on. So.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean, there's an obvious one. There's an obvious. Jesus literally says, come to me, all you who labor and are burdened. I mean, we deal in burdens here, right? And I will give you rest. So I, I really that one resonated a lot with me. And, and when I was reflecting a little bit on it and just sitting with it, I, I thought like, when was the last time someone literally saw me and looked at me and saw that I was tired? Mhm. Or saw that I was burdened and just said, come, you know, put that down. Rest. So I just love it that Jesus speaks right to our burdened parts and our, our exiles. Right? And just says, you know, come, I'm here. I'm safe. You can rest here. You don't have to work. Now, I know that also probably speaks to my manager parts also as well as my, uh, exiles, but I think all our parts that are feeling worn out, really. I mean, this just, you know, speaks directly to them. So I just love that what I saw and what I looked at to the earlier reading Zechariah's vision, right, that the coming king is not on a war horse, you know, or coming with armies to some kind of conquest. But he's meek and he's riding on a donkey. Right? I just love that a king, you know, who banishes weapons and proclaims peace. You know whose power looks nothing like the world's power. And I feel like that speaks right to our exiles also our our, our, our, our exiles tend to be child like parts. And, and they're they're hurting, they're scared. And maybe they haven't experienced peace. And here he's just saying I bring peace, you know, and the psalm. And then you link it to the Psalm. Who says, you know where it says, the Lord lifts up all who are falling and raises up all who are bowed down? Yep, yep.
Speaker 3: Yep. Well, and I, I really keyed in on another verse in the Psalm. So yeah, I caught all of those, right? So, and I, I, I don't have too much to add to what you said. I think it was just really, really so beautiful, really complete in what you're offering. But I was also focusing in on this line in the Psalm, the Lord is gracious and merciful, slow to anger and of great kindness. The Lord is good to all and compassionate toward all his works. And I think we need to remember that our exiles are his works. You know, sometimes the people believe that these parts came into existence as a function of trauma, right? That they that they like sprung into existence in the fragmenting effect of trauma, that there was a single unitary personality, a uniform personality. But then trauma happens and now we have parts. But that's actually not the case. That's not what I believe. You know, I think parts go all the way back to our beginnings. And so they're part of his works and he's compassionate to them. He's good to them, and he's slow to anger. You know, one of the things that our excels are so unfamiliar with is this of great kindness. You know, like there's this great kindness toward, toward our parts. There's this graciousness, this mercy. And then for some parts, this is really critical, the slow to anger because oftentimes, because oftentimes excels, you know, are suppressed. They're banished by parts that are angry with them, you know, that are upset with them.
Speaker 1: And he says, learn from me, for I am meek and humble of heart.
Speaker 3: Mhm.
Speaker 1: You know, he that speaks right to the inmost self, right? Like that speaks to the presence and even the word meek. We may not use very often, you know, these days. And, and sometimes people will think of it as just weak or passive. But I think that what it's talking about here is gentleness and where it's where it's controlled, not by fear, but by love. Right? And being humble of heart, like humble being grounded, being, you know, not an inflated ego or deflated for that matter, with shame, but like grounded, humble, present, gentle, you know, um, meekness, if you will. And, and again, I just think that's what our exiles need.
Speaker 3: Well, and he says, you know, take my yoke upon you and learn from me. And this is a message to us like, this is a message to our manager parts, right? This is a message to, I would say, our innermost selves to a message to all of us to be meek, to be humble of heart toward ourselves. You know, if this is the way that our Lord is interacting with us and he's our exemplar, he's our example, then we need to also be, Um, to be kind, merciful, gracious, humble to ourselves. Yeah. You know, like that is just so, so important. I don't know these readings, especially just lifting me up today. I just can feel that especially, especially my playful part, which is often all about leisure and rest. And I've got some managers that can just like drive, drive, drive and treat life as a marathon, you know, and it's like, wait a minute, we gotta rest again. And that's just really reassuring in my system today.
Speaker 2: Listeners can find more content from both doctor Jerry and Doctor Peter at Souls and hearts.com/content. Thanks for joining us and we hope to see you again tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Our lady, our mother, Untier of knots.
Speaker 1: Pray for us.
Speaker 3: Saint Joseph.
Speaker 1: Pray for us.
Speaker 3: Saint John the Baptist.
Speaker 1: Pray for us.