Bare It All with Linnsey

In this episode of Bare It All with Linnsey, host Linnsey Dolson sits down with guest Lacey Nelson for a powerful conversation about facing deep trauma, overcoming the fears that hold us back, and turning life’s darkest moments into the very things that shape our strength, purpose, and power.

Lacey opens up about confronting childhood abuse, cowriting a bestselling book, and how she’s turned what could have destroyed her into what’s creating her. As she and Linnsey share real moments about relapses, forgiveness, purpose, and the unfiltered journey of healing, they invite listeners into the messy and beautiful conversation of the power of our choices.

If you’re holding onto pain you’ve never shared, questioning if your story has power, or struggling to believe healing can happen — this episode is your wake-up call. Hit play and buckle up: your hardest moments are about to become your greatest strength.

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What is Bare It All with Linnsey?

Bare It All with Linnsey is where nothing is off limits. From thriving in recovery to building businesses, raising kids while chasing dreams, diving deep into mental health, and making a real difference in the world — we talk about it all. This podcast is raw, real, and completely unfiltered. Whether you’re healing, hustling, or just trying to make it through the day, you’re in the right place. We’re here to inspire, empower, and remind you that you can rise from anything.

Lacey Nelson:

It's taking a situation that you could have let ruined you, and maybe it did for a while, and turning it into, oh, it didn't ruin me. It created me. It's not what happened to me. It's what happened for me.

Linnsey Dolson:

We have my favorite human in the world on today, Lacey. She was actually my first guest I ever had on Bare

Lacey Nelson:

It All With Lindsay. And just because of your background, the fact that I've been in law enforcement, doesn't mean that we can't be friends. In fact, we should be friends. Our book was number one in four countries. You know, I didn't know the direction this book would take, what we're getting on our feedback for it, just changing people's lives.

Lacey Nelson:

A lot of people who are addicts are very, very hardworking, resilient survivalist. You don't not only just have to survive in sobriety, you can thrive and be successful.

Linnsey Dolson:

Like, when I first got sober, was like, okay. Wake up and I have coffee. I don't smoke dope.

Lacey Nelson:

Empowered women empower women. Hell yeah. We need more powerful women to bring other women up and stop being trying to cut everybody down all the time because look at what we can do when we come together.

Linnsey Dolson:

Welcome to Bare It All With Lindsay. We have my favorite human in the world on today, Lacey. She was actually my first guest I ever had on Bare It All With Lindsay, and she's back with me in LA. I'm so excited.

Lacey Nelson:

I'm excited. And look, you didn't even need to do that twice this time.

Linnsey Dolson:

I know. Right?

Lacey Nelson:

You're a professional.

Linnsey Dolson:

Oh my gosh. The first time, my first episode, I did the first one, I had lipstick on my teeth, so I'm so glad I did it twice.

Lacey Nelson:

I didn't see that part. Part I saw was how much fun we had in the bloopers. We're like, start over.

Linnsey Dolson:

I know. Oh my god. That was so fun.

Lacey Nelson:

You got it down.

Linnsey Dolson:

You totally, like, got me through my first episode. But tell us, what have you been up to?

Lacey Nelson:

It's been busy, I think, for us both. We're not in Sacramento.

Linnsey Dolson:

Right.

Lacey Nelson:

I'm still up there, but you've lived you live down here now and slowly inspiring me to come down.

Linnsey Dolson:

Hell yeah.

Lacey Nelson:

That's what

Linnsey Dolson:

I'm saying. You need to. You need to.

Lacey Nelson:

It's been busy. When was our first episode? It was a few at least a few months.

Linnsey Dolson:

Oh my gosh. I've been living in San Diego for, like, I'd say six or seven weeks now.

Lacey Nelson:

It was probably, like, at least four months ago or something

Linnsey Dolson:

At like least

Lacey Nelson:

four or five months ago. Yeah. Happened. A lot has happened. I think some of my fans and people who have been watching saw that I was in a collaborative book

Linnsey Dolson:

Yes. The book of

Lacey Nelson:

Inner Sparkle. And you had Katie Rose on, you had Angela Webb on.

Linnsey Dolson:

Yes. I know. And you

Linnsey Dolson:

guys are all on the book. How both of them are so cute. Katie Aren't they? Katie is the cutest. She looks like you look at her and you think she's gonna be like shy and kind of like not, you know,

Linnsey Dolson:

preppy and then she talks and you're like, okay, Quinn. And she's like on

Linnsey Dolson:

fire inside her, she just comes off very, like, you know, looks like she'd be so Innocent.

Linnsey Dolson:

Innocent. There's the word innocent. Then she starts talking about her sex addiction and all this. I'm like, okay. Look at you.

Lacey Nelson:

She's brilliant. Yeah. I mean, between

Linnsey Dolson:

her and her,

Lacey Nelson:

people, you know? What a

Linnsey Dolson:

team to work with on the book.

Lacey Nelson:

I know. Well, there was 12 of us women, that contributed to writing chapters and, you know, I didn't know the direction this book would take. I I thought it was a great thing to bring 12 powerful women together Yeah. To talk about adversity and resilience and and women's empowerment. But who's to know what remarkable 12 powerful stories from different walks of life, different experiences to come together in something that was what we're getting on our feedback for it, just changing people's lives.

Linnsey Dolson:

I love that. Tell me a little bit about what your chapter was about and also, like, how you got involved in this project. Where did it come from?

Lacey Nelson:

So I'm gonna give I'm gonna give praise to my girl, Tisha Vakulin

Linnsey Dolson:

Okay. Right now. Okay. I've heard a lot of good things about Tisha.

Lacey Nelson:

This lady. So she's one of my best friends and also doubles as my manager and does a lot for me down here. She's in LA too and it has gotten me into a couple of reality shows with her and some other cool stuff.

Linnsey Dolson:

Hell, yeah.

Lacey Nelson:

But she got wind of this project through the creator, Bobby Wilcox, who I'll give her some love to. She wrote one of the chapters as well and she was kind of the mastermind. This was her big lifelong goal, was to create a collaborative book with powerful women, basically. And so I just got kind of hooked up through the powers that be through God. Says all these people need to come together.

Lacey Nelson:

So just working with Bobby for a little bit, I was in. First phone call. It was about a year and a half ago, maybe a year ago. Absolutely, I'm in. I don't even need to think twice about it.

Lacey Nelson:

I love that attitude. It was just like, okay, you know when you know.

Linnsey Dolson:

Yeah. That's why. I'm doing it.

Lacey Nelson:

That's it. I'm doing it. I didn't realize the challenges to becoming a published author. I mean, you write your portion and then they take it and they, you know, they they do their tweaks on it and then you write some more and then they take it. And so it's a back and forth and especially when it's about you.

Lacey Nelson:

It's not Right. Just writing a story. It's a true story of, like, true strength and trauma, really. And so my my chapter in particular speaks about childhood trauma that I went through that I've never that I never really spoke publicly about before. Okay.

Lacey Nelson:

How healing? It was very healing. Right. And triggering. Oh, yeah.

Lacey Nelson:

For sure.

Linnsey Dolson:

When you sit I think around they come together a little bit. You know, when there's healing, there's definitely triggering.

Lacey Nelson:

For sure. Absolutely. You know? And it's when you're bringing this stuff back to the forefront and memorializing it with words on paper. Right.

Lacey Nelson:

I didn't understand the gravity of that for myself and so glad that I did it. I wouldn't change a thing. I just probably would have gotten into it with more of a mental preparation, like, this is gonna hurt.

Linnsey Dolson:

Sure.

Lacey Nelson:

You know? But I'm glad I didn't know. I I got to get through it anyway. So, yeah, it's a it's a chapter of just what happened Oh, god. As a small child at the hands of a monster for a little while and how I got through it and allowing that situation, though it felt like it destroyed me for a long time.

Lacey Nelson:

And you'll have to go and read the chapter for anybody else.

Linnsey Dolson:

I have it sitting at home. I'm gonna read it tonight. Yeah.

Lacey Nelson:

It's it's taking a situation that you could have let ruined you, and maybe it did for a while, and turning it into, no, it didn't ruin me. It created me. It's not what happened to me, it's what happened for me. Yeah. It's God working through me.

Lacey Nelson:

So 100%. How can I help others if I didn't experience something myself?

Linnsey Dolson:

Well, that's what exactly what I was gonna say is sharing it helps so many people. Like, it it truly does. That I've that's like one of my next journeys I wanna do is write a book. And so I was thinking about it. I'm like, how do you take like, I have twelve years of just I don't even remember half of it.

Linnsey Dolson:

Like, I'm thinking I would have to start and take, like, a piece of paper and write, like, the year I started using all the way to the year I got sober and actually, like, break it down into a timeline. Okay. I had a baby this year. I lost custody of my kids this year. I was in jail here, here, here, here, here, here, all these different things because it's all like a blur in my mind.

Linnsey Dolson:

Right? These twelve years of, like, breaking it down, like, what exactly happened and in what order and all of that and then putting it into a book,

Lacey Nelson:

you know? I think that's probably the best way to go about it for yourself.

Linnsey Dolson:

Right.

Lacey Nelson:

Right. Making almost an outline. Year one, year two, year three.

Linnsey Dolson:

Right.

Lacey Nelson:

And so for anybody else watching this thinking about writing, I mean, that's kind of what I did also. It was more I just spit out the first page. No Right. No thinking about it. It was like just a, alright, here we go.

Lacey Nelson:

And of course that first page changed about a 100 times. But just sit down and start writing and then after you get a little bit out of your system and you feel like, okay, I have a direction, write your outline. And then go, okay, now that now we're gonna get more organized with it.

Linnsey Dolson:

How much of it did they change? So even with, like, I have people managing my social media, and it's interesting when people edit your personal stuff. Right? Because I'm doing, like, these story times and they're adding touches to it, and she's like, it was, you know, wrote it out. And she's like, it was the hardest thing in the light my life.

Linnsey Dolson:

I lost my three kids and this finally turned it you know, turned things around for me. I'm like, no. No. No. No.

Linnsey Dolson:

No. This is just the beginning of my story. I lost two more after that, went to jail 20 more times. Like, we got another, like, eight years of wreckage and they're like, oh, you know? So it's really interesting having people edit your personal stories.

Linnsey Dolson:

So did you notice, like, they changed things you didn't want changed or they how did I that

Lacey Nelson:

think I got lucky with the with these gals on this project. Okay. Though there were changes that were needed basically for sustenance and just, you know, forward momentum of the chapter because we were confined to a word, you know, word count, page count

Linnsey Dolson:

Right.

Lacey Nelson:

Because we're all together. Sure.

Linnsey Dolson:

It's just

Lacey Nelson:

not for me. Right? So I was grateful for the changes because though sometimes I think we're resistant to those changes when you embrace it and go with it and realize there's a path here, in the end, it turned out better than I could have done it by myself.

Linnsey Dolson:

Oh, yeah. Having that, like, guidance and a lot when you have all that, and it's trauma. Right? And so, like, you're trying to get it out on a paper. Like, when I do my story times and I'm like, okay, I have ninety seconds to tell, like, this blurb and I'm like, shit.

Linnsey Dolson:

How do you do that? Right? So you just, like, really put all, like, the meat and the potatoes, like, the important parts. Right? Because you start talking about something.

Linnsey Dolson:

I'm like, wait. What do you mean it's been twelve minutes of talking shit? That was supposed be ninety seconds. Shit. Between me and you, we can go.

Linnsey Dolson:

I know. So it's like breaking it down into a little bit. So you got your book. You guys did you were where were you at when you guys did, like, your book tour? I've seen it online.

Lacey Nelson:

So we all went out to Colorado Springs Okay. And met there. The creator, Bobby, she lives there

Linnsey Dolson:

and she

Lacey Nelson:

was so gracious and wonderful to put this together.

Linnsey Dolson:

Oh, I love The biggest thing

Lacey Nelson:

we could do is travel. You know, I don't know if all of us will ever be in the same place at the same time again, so it was just an opportunity to just embrace and love all of these women who we all poured our heart into something. And at the time of the launch, which was in July, July, our book was number one in four countries.

Linnsey Dolson:

Fuck.

Lacey Nelson:

And was moving up on the Amazon bestsellers list as we as we speak. So I love that. Haven't looked any at any point recently to see where we are now. But if we didn't build even after that, I mean, look at that accomplishment that

Linnsey Dolson:

So exciting.

Lacey Nelson:

That they allowed us to be a part of.

Linnsey Dolson:

Tell everybody the name of the book and how they can find it.

Lacey Nelson:

The Power of Inner Sparkle on Amazon, and I believe we are working on paper copies in stores. But for now, The Power of Inner Sparkle on Amazon is where you can get it.

Linnsey Dolson:

Nice. You guys definitely have to download it. I have it sitting on my nightstand. I'm gonna read it tonight, so I'm excited. So besides that, what else have you been up to?

Linnsey Dolson:

Tell me.

Lacey Nelson:

So actually, interestingly enough and I'll share this because a lot people have been asking me questions about it.

Linnsey Dolson:

Yes. Share it, girl.

Lacey Nelson:

July 22 was my birthday.

Linnsey Dolson:

Yeah.

Lacey Nelson:

July 24 was our book launch in Colorado and a bucket list item of mine my entire life since I was a small child was to base jump. So base jumping

Linnsey Dolson:

I've seen that.

Lacey Nelson:

A little kid, I'd have to do that someday. The older I get, the more I'm like, I don't think that's a great idea. So now or never. Right.

Linnsey Dolson:

Right.

Lacey Nelson:

And so Moab, Utah, and I'm gonna give some love to Tandem Based Moab in Utah, phenomenal company that just takes you under their wings quite literally.

Linnsey Dolson:

I followed them after your post.

Lacey Nelson:

Oh my gosh. I I mean, getting so getting there, it's it was surreal, honestly, surreal experience. And metaphorically, I say, you know, I've been climbing mountains for years of life, climbing the mountain of life for years. And what am I gonna do for this next year? Because I'm really tired of the climb.

Lacey Nelson:

Sure. I'm okay with the grind. I'm tired of the climb. Right. Makes sense.

Lacey Nelson:

It right. So how do I get through that? For me, I'm very like, there it's nothing small. I mean, you and you and I, Tony, we're all the same. Nothing small.

Linnsey Dolson:

Sure.

Lacey Nelson:

So I'm gonna jump off of a damn mountain Yeah. You know, and see how this goes. So when I was on the ground, you know, you meet with a guy real early in the morning, really, really good people. Nick Reyes, love for that guy. What a savage, a fearless savage.

Lacey Nelson:

And he could double as a motivational

Linnsey Dolson:

He was so calm. It was perfect.

Lacey Nelson:

This guy, he's just no fear. And so you're just hiking with him up this mountain. First of all, an hour hike up's super

Linnsey Dolson:

Oh, you hiked up there for an hour?

Lacey Nelson:

It's pretty it's pretty intense, you know? Yeah. You gotta be in good shape to get up there. But people do it. Like, there's older people that have done it with them as well, so it's not impossible.

Lacey Nelson:

Sure.

Linnsey Dolson:

It's

Lacey Nelson:

a little challenging. But, you know, you have this really quiet, beautiful hike up a Moab Mountain and just getting to the top and looking around, it's just peaceful and quiet, God. You sit up there for a little bit and you talk. And when I was on the ground, I was like, I'm gonna be fearless up there. I got this, you know?

Lacey Nelson:

And then you get up there and I'm like, okay, I don't think this is a great idea, you know? So I looked absolutely terrified in my video. Don't care.

Linnsey Dolson:

I love how real. I love that you didn't edit that, though. That was the best part.

Lacey Nelson:

Oh, god. I wanted to. I'm like, I don't wanna but, god, but if you don't just give it, you gotta give it. So I was like, forget that I'm scared. It's just what it is.

Lacey Nelson:

And but do it anyway.

Linnsey Dolson:

Do it scared. Do it scared.

Lacey Nelson:

Be scared and do it. That jump was the most life changing, like, few seconds of your life ever. And the free fall was just, like, unreal. The shoot opens and even just the you know, it's it's not long. What was I up there?

Lacey Nelson:

A minute, really? Two minutes at the most?

Linnsey Dolson:

It looked incredible.

Lacey Nelson:

Oh, highly recommend it. Highly, highly recommend this experience for people. If you can stomach it at all, just go do it. These guys will take care of you, you'll be safe, you will be fine.

Linnsey Dolson:

Right. Well, so you got that out of

Linnsey Dolson:

the way, but then what did you just go do? So that was like miniature. That just opened up Pandora's Box, right? Because what did you just do the other day?

Lacey Nelson:

So they recommended me to go jump Oceanside, the skydiving company in Oceanside. I'm like, well, forget it. Let's do that too. But this point, you know? And interestingly enough, and I'll throw this out here, it had been twenty one years since I'd been on an airplane.

Lacey Nelson:

I'm You'd mentioned that. It's not the plane. Obviously, it's not the heights. I don't care about that. It's not dying, really.

Lacey Nelson:

I'm very, very claustrophobic and it stems back to my childhood abuse situation Okay. Which you'll read about. And so it's it's just it's ruined me for years. I feel like it's just ruined me. It's prevented me from living.

Lacey Nelson:

And, you know, I was it's time. Now, I keep saying this is my year. It's time. And okay, so I'm gonna get on a plane, exposure therapy, I'm learning. You gotta be you have to do the thing that you don't wanna do for fifteen or twenty minutes.

Linnsey Dolson:

The courage comes first, the confidence comes after. You doing the first one gave you, I think, enough confidence to know that you could do that.

Lacey Nelson:

That's true.

Linnsey Dolson:

Once you push yourself to do something and have enough courage to do something you're scared to do, confidence comes from that. That's how you build your confidence.

Lacey Nelson:

That's a good way to put it because that bass jump, it really opened up doors.

Linnsey Dolson:

Sure. It showed you, like, you could do something you're scared to do.

Lacey Nelson:

That's right and I'll live. I'll make it. Yeah. It's fine.

Linnsey Dolson:

You know?

Lacey Nelson:

We got this. You know? So that the skydive, I was more afraid of the plane than I was to jump. I mean, the plane is small and rickety, you

Linnsey Dolson:

know? Right.

Lacey Nelson:

And I'm not, like, again, I'm not afraid of, like, the crash. I mean, whatever.

Linnsey Dolson:

Right. Right.

Lacey Nelson:

But it's the I'm stuck in this little tiny thing. I have no control. I can't get out if I wanted to. Sure. You know, it's closed in.

Lacey Nelson:

We're shoved in there like a bunch of sardines as it was. But I'll tell you, just as much as tandem based Moab, Go Jump America at Oceanside incredibly reassuring. I expressed to them my concerns, my fears. They walked me through it. They loved me through it.

Lacey Nelson:

They were just wonderful humans. And so you're on the plane for fifteen minutes. So I was like, perfect. I'm being exposed, and at the end of this, I get to do something really cool and not have to sit on this damn airplane for an hour and

Linnsey Dolson:

a half.

Lacey Nelson:

Right. Right. Because at that point, you're screwed, you're stuck. And so I'm like, well, at least if I start to panic, I'm getting off of this in a minute. But it was great.

Lacey Nelson:

Soon as the hatch opened up in the air, most people, that's where they fear and I'm like, thank God, I can breathe.

Linnsey Dolson:

Oh my God, you're excited. Get me the fuck out of here.

Lacey Nelson:

I have fresh air. And when I tell you the jump, oh my gosh. I mean, flying through clouds, like

Linnsey Dolson:

To

Lacey Nelson:

see them? Yeah. And you see the clouds and then you're in the clouds, it was just unreal, actually unreal. I mean, I'm I'm, like, not a spokes spokesperson for these companies but maybe I should be because I'm telling you, if if you haven't done something like that, go do it.

Linnsey Dolson:

I would love to skydive but I put it off because I'm, like, I have so many like, my kids that, like, rely on me

Lacey Nelson:

Mhmm.

Linnsey Dolson:

And they only have like, my older ones only there's only one parent. And so I'm like, I can't go jump out of a plane because if something goes wrong and I die, they need me. But when they're grown, I'm gonna jump out of

Linnsey Dolson:

a fucking plane. Let's do

Linnsey Dolson:

But until then, I can't die. You can live through me. Yeah. There you go. I'll live through you but I love that.

Linnsey Dolson:

Okay. So when are you flying on a plane now?

Lacey Nelson:

It's gonna come. I gotta figure it out.

Linnsey Dolson:

Yeah. So that's the next one. That's the next one. There.

Lacey Nelson:

Get on a commercial plane now. Get on a commercial and get that done. Interestingly enough, so they convinced me because the the jump was so great, the skydive, and I sort of thought I was going this direction anyway. I just wanted to see what it felt like. I'm gonna get certified.

Lacey Nelson:

I'm gonna become a certified jumper. So they showed me where the class is down here.

Linnsey Dolson:

Look at you.

Lacey Nelson:

I know. I'm like, let's just do it.

Linnsey Dolson:

Fuck it. I love that.

Lacey Nelson:

So when you're ready to jump, maybe I'll be your

Linnsey Dolson:

Oh, my god. Yes.

Linnsey Dolson:

That's so cool. So does that mean, like, you'll be other people will be strapped to you when you jaunt they jump?

Lacey Nelson:

It's I'm not trying to become a certified tandem jumper Okay.

Linnsey Dolson:

At this point. Tell me what a certified jumper is, though.

Lacey Nelson:

You just jump on your own. So you go through the class.

Linnsey Dolson:

Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Got it.

Lacey Nelson:

You can get the class done. You do 25 jumps during your class. You get trained on how to do your parachute and all the things. Right? And they were talking to me about it and after that jump.

Lacey Nelson:

And the little gal that was the filmer of my jump So you're strapped to somebody and then there's, like, a person that flies with you. Sure. She was, like, this little badass little thing. Right? She was cool, Kelly, and just fearless little thing.

Lacey Nelson:

And she's got the camera strapped to her head and she's filming my whole jump from far away and she's upside down and she's on her back. I'm like, just what a cool lady, you know? And I thought, man, I can do that. I could do that. So and why not?

Linnsey Dolson:

The people I know a few people who skydive and they all love it. It's something that, like, if people skydive, they are into it big time. It's something they do regularly, like, they love.

Lacey Nelson:

I wanna do it. And once you become certified, the jump in in itself is, like, $30. You just go to the place and they just take you up and you jump for $30 because you've got your own equipment.

Linnsey Dolson:

My kids are grown up jumping.

Lacey Nelson:

I'm telling you.

Linnsey Dolson:

Yeah. No. It looks it looks amazing. Tony's mom. Yep.

Linnsey Dolson:

Exactly. We will jump. Okay. So besides that, what else is going on? Okay.

Linnsey Dolson:

Tell me. So you're thinking one or two years. You're thinking of moving here. You're telling me.

Lacey Nelson:

Would love to live down here.

Linnsey Dolson:

Girl, see. Oh my god. Southern California is a whole vibe. Like, Northern California, oh my gosh. My family's there.

Linnsey Dolson:

I have so many great people. I love it there, But I feel like I outgrew it a little bit. Right? Like, I my cleaning business was my world for, like, seven years. Right?

Linnsey Dolson:

I put my blood, sweat, and tears into that, but it doesn't really need me anymore. And I was kinda, like, bored. Right? Because I got ADD, I need to do something new. So, like, moving out here, I feel like I'm refreshed again.

Linnsey Dolson:

You know? We got a new project. We're opening a drug and alcohol treatment center in San Diego.

Lacey Nelson:

No kidding.

Linnsey Dolson:

Yeah. So that's

Lacey Nelson:

Tell me about this.

Linnsey Dolson:

That's incredible. It's an outpatient IOP and PHP. So it's gonna be incredible. And then we're gonna have supportive housing, and then we wanna do, like, transitional housing. But how fun is that project?

Linnsey Dolson:

Because you get to help people in that. And it's something new. Right? So it's so fun and get to take it from, like, start up to build it. So it's like, man, I'm pumped for

Lacey Nelson:

it. I'm excited to see this because people need the help and they want the help. Oftentimes, they don't even know where to start. No. That's part of the problem.

Linnsey Dolson:

No. They really don't. Pluck them out.

Lacey Nelson:

I got you.

Linnsey Dolson:

Well, and there's so much that we can share with the world from our experiences in this that, like, how incredible. And I truly feel like God is just gonna put the people in our lives who we need Mhmm. Who need us, you know? And so the PHP is, like, where people just got out of, like, residential and it's like, they're with us, like, six hours a day. And then a lot of times, they, like, live in the supportive housing after.

Linnsey Dolson:

And so it's, like, a step down between regular outpatient and residential. So, like, an in between. So they do that. Like, we have, like, six hours a day, and then we wanted to add all kinds of fun things in there. So maybe, like, surfing day or, like, working out, just like all these other aspects of life.

Linnsey Dolson:

Maybe art therapy, like Music.

Lacey Nelson:

Mhmm. Something.

Linnsey Dolson:

So many different things. Like, I would I mean, I would even love to, like, add in if people are interested in entrepreneurship, like coaching them for free. Yes.

Lacey Nelson:

Like, all these things of helping people, like, rebuild their lives. And have someone like Katie come in who knows the body

Linnsey Dolson:

Yes. And

Lacey Nelson:

how to refeed yourself health.

Linnsey Dolson:

Yes. Oh my god.

Lacey Nelson:

That would be

Linnsey Dolson:

we have to have Katie do a group. Now you do. Yeah, we do.

Lacey Nelson:

Group stuff so people can learn.

Linnsey Dolson:

Because there's gonna be groups every day. That would be such a good group. There's so many things that, like, people when you get out of rehab, you're so broken. Like, I feel like I didn't know how to do shit. When I first got sober, because I had been using for twelve years, like, I didn't I had to relearn everything.

Linnsey Dolson:

Like, honestly, I feel like I stopped growing at, like, 16 when I started using.

Lacey Nelson:

You feel like it was a blip in time? Yes. So you, like, lose time. You're, like, in a time capsule and then you get out and it's like, oh, now start learning life again.

Linnsey Dolson:

100%. That's exactly exactly what it is. It's like even, like, your maturity level. Like, I still feel like I'm like a fucking 12 or 13 year old. I do.

Linnsey Dolson:

Like I run around the house and I'll go to my kid's room and I'll

Linnsey Dolson:

fart and shut the door really quick,

Linnsey Dolson:

you know. You are a

Lacey Nelson:

you are a teenager. But I love this about you though because you don't like I would have said I'll

Linnsey Dolson:

be like, wait, I gotta tell you something.

Linnsey Dolson:

And then I'll run off.

Lacey Nelson:

I love you for that, you know? Life is too serious all the time. It is. You didn't get to have all this

Linnsey Dolson:

stuff. No. No, bro. I'm like sometimes I'm like,

Linnsey Dolson:

I can't believe that God let

Linnsey Dolson:

me be responsible for these people.

Lacey Nelson:

These small humans who are remarkable.

Linnsey Dolson:

I know. Oh my god.

Linnsey Dolson:

They're so incredible. But it is like that. You stop growing.

Linnsey Dolson:

Yeah. So there's so much to teach these people. We have to have you come in.

Lacey Nelson:

I would love to

Linnsey Dolson:

To talk to them.

Lacey Nelson:

You know, it's more of that bridging the gap between, you know, my it's not even on my side, your side. It's just two paths that need to actually start working together, to be honest. And

Linnsey Dolson:

We talked about that in our first podcast.

Lacey Nelson:

Yeah. Like,

Linnsey Dolson:

it's so true. It's so true.

Lacey Nelson:

It's true. And I'd be happy to come in and just talk from my side of the the thing and and, you know, tell them that there are other options than than what's happening. And so Right.

Linnsey Dolson:

Well, you're on the front line because you work in the jails. Correct?

Lacey Nelson:

Right now, I do.

Linnsey Dolson:

Yeah. You work in the jails. So you are seeing it frontline. I mean, they're coming in and they're either, like, detoxing.

Linnsey Dolson:

Yeah. I'm sure

Linnsey Dolson:

you see that a lot. There's gotta be a ton of detoxing. Are you assuming seeing overdoses? My sister is a prison guard and they are overdosing and they're like crazy.

Lacey Nelson:

Yeah. Without saying too much, yes. Yeah. I mean, it and whether in custody or out

Linnsey Dolson:

Right.

Lacey Nelson:

You know, especially with the introduction of fentanyl like we talked about. You know, overdoses just skyrocketed with these things. And and it's they're starting younger and younger. Our kids are starting younger and younger. Right.

Lacey Nelson:

And with drugs and the laws surrounding drugs in California now, it's astronomically higher because drugs are no longer felonies. They're misdemeanors in So the same ticket you would get for driving on a suspended is the ticket you could get for having possession of methamphetamine or being under the influence, which is ridiculous.

Linnsey Dolson:

Right.

Lacey Nelson:

Do I think we should take, a drug addict and put them in jail and throw away the key? Absolutely not. But what happened prior to all this was that people were forced into prop 36 programs, which were making them go to rehab, making them get help. And did it work for everyone? No.

Lacey Nelson:

A lot of those people got back out and used again, but a handful of those people didn't because they were forced into sobriety. Then mentally, go, oh, wow, this actually isn't so bad. I think I like being sober. I like having my family back. I like working for a living.

Lacey Nelson:

So now it's just thrown to the wind, I guess. Everybody can use drugs. So are we in a perfect system before or now? No. There's never gonna be a perfect system.

Lacey Nelson:

But sometimes people, like you know, need to be forced. There needs to be some level of forceful, you need help. Let's get you help. And even if that's just we're sending you you you're forced. Either you go to prison or you go to this rehab facility.

Lacey Nelson:

What's your choice?

Linnsey Dolson:

Right. Well, it's a lot of times, it's not arresting them. It's saving their life. Like, even my dad, when he was in his addiction, he got arrested and forced to put in rehab and it changed his life. It changed it because they said you're either going to prison or you're going to rehab.

Linnsey Dolson:

And he chose rehab, obviously, and it changed his life. I mean, there were so many times that I was arrested and never was I doing worse in jail. I was at least sober. My family knew where I was at. They knew they were not getting a knock on the door that I was dead or overdosed or anything like that.

Linnsey Dolson:

And so it really is saving lives, but it's just until somebody wants help, you can't do it for them.

Lacey Nelson:

And that's with anything. Right? Right. Somebody who wants to start going to the gym, you can't force them. Somebody who wants to get clean, you can't force them.

Lacey Nelson:

But that rock bottom will come, hopefully not in the form of you die from an overdose. Right. But ideally, it comes and then it wakes you up. And so when you have programs like you're gonna start, this one down here, my gosh, what an opportunity for people to see that there is life after the addiction. There is life.

Lacey Nelson:

And so they need to see that there is life after it. And I like I tell my people that I work with, clientele, I I guess, you know, sober is hard. It's hard. Life is hard.

Linnsey Dolson:

But being you know what? Being an addict is fucking hard. When people think sobriety is hard, being an addict is hard. Being broke as fuck, looking like shit so nobody wants anything to do with you because you look like a fucking hobo. You are the, like, anxiety, the it's a living fucking hell.

Linnsey Dolson:

So when people are like, sobriety is hard. No. Actually, being an addict is hard. Making sure every day that you have, you know, whatever kind of drug of choice you have so that you can function and whatever other, you know, I had a gambling addiction, all of that, and, like, trying to manage it because you can't have a job. You can't keep a job.

Linnsey Dolson:

That's hard. So when people tell you that sobriety is hard, no. No. No. No.

Linnsey Dolson:

Staying sober is hard. I mean, I'm sorry.

Lacey Nelson:

Staying addicted

Linnsey Dolson:

is Getting sober is actually not as hard.

Lacey Nelson:

But I think that comes when you hit that rock bottom.

Linnsey Dolson:

It does come when you hit that rock bottom.

Lacey Nelson:

Because, you know, as we see the recidivism with drug addiction, you get out or you get in, you get sober, you feel real good for six months. I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do this. They get out and then two months later I see him back because they've relapsed. Because they don't work a program as well, too. Right?

Lacey Nelson:

They think

Linnsey Dolson:

they could do it on their own. They're like, oh, okay. I'm just not using. All you did was take away your coping mechanism. Wherever you go, there you are.

Linnsey Dolson:

You still have all this. If you don't get in there and you don't work, you know, out all the problems and there's so many different things people can do, celebrate recovery, they can do ANA, they can do AA, they can do whatever. There's a tons of different things to do. There's no one right way to do it. But if you don't get in there through therapy, and work, get in there and clean house, it's gonna go back out and use.

Lacey Nelson:

And that's what I say all the time. And I I word it as we have to get to the root of that problem. Exactly. You're not using. You didn't start using because for no reason.

Lacey Nelson:

You started using because and that that that applies to alcoholism,

Linnsey Dolson:

that applies to You

Lacey Nelson:

start a focus on something that feeds

Linnsey Dolson:

a addiction. Avoid in there. Yeah. 100.

Lacey Nelson:

You're dumping serotonin and dopamine because you're lacking it because you're not you're not getting it through something positive because something was lacking to begin with. So I think your program offering therapy and getting to the root of that, most of these kids most I say kids. Most of these people, as children, were abused in some form. And I'm just lucky by the grace of God that my path was I took a different path outside of addiction to cope with my pain. And I can thank myself, but I can thank God for that too.

Linnsey Dolson:

Right.

Lacey Nelson:

He just had different plans. It would have been very easy to pick something up and and cure myself, so so called cure myself with addiction. But it doesn't mean that I'm immune now. I still have to work on myself all the time. And drugs are not the only thing people are addicted to.

Lacey Nelson:

Like you said, I could be addicted to alcohol or I could go to the casino and lose all my money. And it's a daily reminder that we are strong enough and we are brave enough and that we can do it and that I choose sobriety or I choose positive outlets. And so for you to be able to teach these people that, you save one, then you save a 100.

Linnsey Dolson:

It's gonna be incredible. Like, I truly think that the best like, to me, like, perfection would be being where I can make a great living off of making the other people's lives better. Right? Like, it doesn't get any better than that to be able to make your, you know, help make your family financially secure doing something that makes the world a better place. Mhmm.

Linnsey Dolson:

It's just it's incredible. And I'm so passionate about it. Right? Because it's like when I was building a cleaning company, that was different. Like that was like, man, I gotta get jobs, I gotta pay rent, am I gonna pay rent or am I gonna pay payroll?

Linnsey Dolson:

I gotta, you know, I got survival mode. Survival mode. That was survival mode. So this is different because I'm not in survival mode. So honestly, if we don't make a profit right away, like, it really doesn't, I mean, it'd be nice to, but that's not where it's coming from.

Linnsey Dolson:

Like, it's coming from making a difference in other lives. And feed the soul. Yes. And it's so different starting a business when you're not in survival mode.

Lacey Nelson:

Ain't that true?

Linnsey Dolson:

Ugh. It's so much better.

Lacey Nelson:

You get to you get to start it and love it from the right place.

Linnsey Dolson:

Right. When I, like, talk to people because they do business coaching and there's two different ones. You talk to some business owners and they're in the survival mode and panic and all that, and then you talk to others that are, like, already, you know, they're not in that survival mode, and then they can really just, like, plan and create systems and automations. And but when people are in, like, that survival mode, like, the first few years, I couldn't really create systems and automations. I was just like, business, employees, business, employees, business, you know, because

Lacey Nelson:

this is survival You make me think of the book and I read it I think it's Nine Figure Mindset.

Linnsey Dolson:

Oh, I haven't

Lacey Nelson:

read that. Fantastic.

Linnsey Dolson:

Oh, I'm gonna put that on mine. I love books.

Lacey Nelson:

Oh my gosh.

Linnsey Dolson:

Nine I can't Figure stand reading, but I'll put them on audio.

Lacey Nelson:

I know you. Yeah. I

Linnsey Dolson:

know. I put them on when I'm doing makeup.

Linnsey Dolson:

There's no way I'm sitting there reading a book.

Linnsey Dolson:

It's not happening.

Lacey Nelson:

Nope. The ADHD kicks in. Hell no. I get like three or four pages and then I'm onto something else. It takes me a long time to get through a book.

Lacey Nelson:

Oh, Not because I'm slow or I can't retain, but I just like, for or hyper kicks in.

Linnsey Dolson:

Oh my god. I'll be, like, doing my makeup and, like, Tony's in the bedroom and, like, I'll come and, like, jump on her. He's like,

Lacey Nelson:

he's like, hyper?

Linnsey Dolson:

Yes. Yes, I am. As always. I know. Like, I mean, it is.

Linnsey Dolson:

It's like the little kid thing.

Lacey Nelson:

Want coffee, so, you know, I know. I get it. That's what I love about you though. And that's what I'm saying. You get these people and you get them to a path where they're no longer using, look how powerful you are.

Lacey Nelson:

Oh, Because you took you took somebody and you took all that energy and you put it into survival addiction.

Linnsey Dolson:

That same energy, I swear, I tell people the best advice I wanna have my counselor on here from rehab because she messaged me a while back and she was like, you know, I was the one in there the first few weeks nobody thought I was gonna make it. I was an asshole. I was like, I'm not coming into your groups. Fuck you. Fuck your groups.

Linnsey Dolson:

I'm sleeping. They thought I was, like, just pointless, you know, not gonna make it. And she was the one who told me, she's like, if you take that energy that you've spent the last twelve years staying high and put it towards something good, you can conquer the world. And honestly, it's so true. And people think like, okay.

Linnsey Dolson:

I stopped drinking. I stopped using. Okay. Is better. No.

Linnsey Dolson:

It's not. Now you're in there with that, with with who you are. Now you have to sit in with all those feelings, fear, anxiety, like we are filled with that. When I was first sober, where I used to sit in a group room like this.

Lacey Nelson:

Just bouncing. Yeah.

Linnsey Dolson:

Fucking so much anxiety.

Lacey Nelson:

How can I get out of here?

Linnsey Dolson:

Oh, my God. Like, I was fucking tweaking, but I wasn't tweaking because it was just anxiety. You're filled with it and I had to, like, learn how to work through all those. And so I'm excited to, like, be able to work with people on I mean, I'm not a counselor, so I can't do, like, the counseling part of it. But just being able to be a mentor and help these people and guide them and

Lacey Nelson:

just Take what they're good at instead of, like you said, trying to stay high all day. Lot of

Linnsey Dolson:

people who are

Lacey Nelson:

addicts are very, very hardworking, resilient survivalists. And so why not take all that energy? Look what you've built and created. Right. I I mean, I talk about you all the time.

Linnsey Dolson:

Oh, I love you.

Lacey Nelson:

All the time. You know? And and it's just like, look, you don't not only just have to survive in sobriety, you can thrive and be successful.

Linnsey Dolson:

Oh my god. Some seriously, the most successful people I know in the world have all been through something that almost broke them. Like, it's honestly true. I rarely meet somebody who's extremely driven, extremely successful, who didn't go through something that almost fucking broke them. They have

Lacey Nelson:

to have to.

Linnsey Dolson:

Yeah. You almost have It literally puts puts you like that's who you are. Like, what you went through put you made you who you are today. And I feel the same with me. Like, a lot of it I wish I mean, I wish I could take a lot of it back.

Linnsey Dolson:

But then, like, I think about it in, like, my older ones. Okay. Well, had I got sober after the third, I wouldn't have my fourth, fifth, and sixth. Right? Or and so it's like everything had to happen the exact way it happened for my life to be today and for who I am and everything I learned and just, like, appreciation for things.

Linnsey Dolson:

Right? Like, even your childhood trauma. Like, going through things like that makes you appreciate things in life more. Right?

Lacey Nelson:

Big time. Big time. Right. And that's what I said at the beginning. It doesn't happen to us.

Lacey Nelson:

It happens for us.

Linnsey Dolson:

Right. Exactly. And when

Lacey Nelson:

you can change your mindset, you know, and I guess I'm full of quotes today, perspective could be your passport or your prison. There you And I I let my perspective keep me prisoner for a long time. I was angry for a long, long time. And who is that serving? Then my abuser wins.

Linnsey Dolson:

How do you feel like you worked through that? So for people who are going because childhood trauma is a common thing. I mean, a lot of people have it. Right? Because parents who whatever they're going through, if they don't fix their shit, they pass their trauma onto their kids.

Linnsey Dolson:

How did you work through that? Like, do you have tips for people or any like like, how did you work through that?

Lacey Nelson:

For me, I think it was multi faceted with that because I found myself in acts of service, Obviously, law enforcement Right. Entering into law enforcement and giving acts of service there and positive outlets for myself for sure. The gym, I cannot express to people how important exercise is for That's Tony's outlet for sure. Oh my gosh. I mean, mental health, I I say, yeah, sure, the gym makes you look good, but it keeps you alive mentally.

Lacey Nelson:

You the I mean, you can do the studies on it if you want to, but just hands down, folks coming into recovery or dealing with trauma or abuse or whatever their their stuff is, they're they're suicidal, they're depressed, go do exercise. Even if you don't like going into a gym, go hike, bike, climb, walk, run. I don't care. That is literally the thing I think that started saving me as a teenager. Hit the gym as a teenager.

Lacey Nelson:

And also just whatever hobby for me, music, you know, picking up a guitar. Some people like video games. It keeps their minds occupied. Right. Something positive that helps you cope that you can that you can use as a mental health outlet, you know?

Lacey Nelson:

And, yes, Tony with with his exercise and workout stuff, I love seeing that, you know, seeing a seeing a guy who went from also addicted Right. To, you know, could be a bodybuilder trainer now, you know? And, I mean, oftentimes, those of us who struggle with trauma, we understand the importance of of lifting iron.

Linnsey Dolson:

Right. Right. I think that'll be huge to and it's called bonus round recovery. Oh, I love this. Yeah.

Linnsey Dolson:

So because we I say we say we're in our bonus round of life. Right? Mhmm. So we named it Bonus Round. At first, we wanted to name it Reset Recovery.

Linnsey Dolson:

We got all the licensing and everything and realized that there was another Reset Recovery.

Lacey Nelson:

Oh, no.

Linnsey Dolson:

They were like, damn it. Alright.

Linnsey Dolson:

Back to the drawing board.

Linnsey Dolson:

So we amended that name and went with bonus round. But it's like, you know, because you're in your bonus round of life, so bonus round recovery. But that's a huge one we wanna do. Even have, like, yoga, you know, yoga instructors come there and work with them and exercise and just all of that just because, you know, you've been in this addiction or alcoholism for so long, you have to relearn how to live. Because especially when most of your life, your daily life revolved around either drinking or using, you have to relive.

Linnsey Dolson:

Like, when I first got sober, I was like, okay. I wake up and I have coffee. I don't smoke dope. Right? That's what

Linnsey Dolson:

I We wake up and we have coffee. We don't fucking hit a pipe. And then,

Linnsey Dolson:

like, when I, you know, I didn't quit smoking too right away because once I got sober, was like, that's fucking disgusting. I can't even believe I smoked. And so, like, I would be driving, and it was, like, so weird to, like, not be smoking. And and so you have to, like, relive because you have all these weird habits. And so it is.

Linnsey Dolson:

And so teaching people like, hey, instead of this, let's go to the gym and do this and just rebuild a daily,

Lacey Nelson:

like, routine. That's what I was gonna say. Yeah. I think routine is so important. I mean, I've never been an active into anything but

Linnsey Dolson:

just You sure see it a lot, though.

Lacey Nelson:

I see it a lot. You know? And, we're all susceptible. Nobody's better than anyone else. We all have it's all in front of our faces.

Lacey Nelson:

We get to make daily choices as to what we're gonna be and how we're gonna be it. And so routine is so important. And like you say, you were used to one thing. You have to retrain the mind and the body to live in a different mindset and in a different way, different path, different program. And so I'm the same way.

Lacey Nelson:

I'm a creature of habit. And, you know, a lot of us need to do that. And so I wanna wake up and smoke a pipe. Nope. Now it's gonna be coffee.

Lacey Nelson:

Right. Now it's at gym at ten or 10:30, you know, having lunch after that.

Linnsey Dolson:

And just doing it over and over until that's your new daily routine.

Lacey Nelson:

Yes. Right? I think there was, like, a study. They say it takes twenty one days to develop or lose a habit. Right.

Lacey Nelson:

Right. I've heard that. Yeah. So do do three weeks of anything. Give up bread for three weeks.

Lacey Nelson:

Right? Or increase your water for three weeks. Stop drinking for three weeks. You know? I I go many times in the year, I will do an alcohol cleanse for myself, you know?

Lacey Nelson:

Like, I just did, you know, almost two months just for the

Linnsey Dolson:

heck of

Lacey Nelson:

it because I wanted to reset my program and not that I have a problem with it, but Sure. Why not? You know? Even if it's three drinks a week that I enjoy here and there, why not do a two month cleanse? So I did, and then I jumped out of a plane and I enjoyed a cocktail, you know?

Lacey Nelson:

There you go. It's just relearning. And so anybody going through anything, we're all susceptible and you have to keep your mind in check and you have to be on a routine.

Linnsey Dolson:

And that's almost like a discipline thing too. I'll go through kicks where I'm like caffeine free, sugar free, And all when I do that for a while, I'm like, fuck yeah. I knew I had that discipline. You feel like, I don't know, it makes you feel really But it, you know, it's either one or the other. I'm like on it and I'm eating so healthy or I'm eating everything in sight.

Linnsey Dolson:

Like, there's no fucking I know. Between for me. The light switch is on or off. There's no in between.

Lacey Nelson:

It's I

Linnsey Dolson:

get it. Like, on the way here I had Tony stop, I was like, give me energy drink and some Sour Patch Kids.

Lacey Nelson:

We're gonna call this balance.

Linnsey Dolson:

Right. Right. But, you know, one or the other. But it's definitely those are important things to, like, have that discipline where you know you can I love having you on here? We bounce so much.

Linnsey Dolson:

I love And there's like that's why I

Linnsey Dolson:

was like, didn't plan anything and it's totally good because No. Don't just

Lacey Nelson:

You know, but the world and people listening and your fans and my fans and and people that follow us for encouragement and support, they do that because they know we're real. And I spent so long, even after I created my public speaking business, trying to portray something. I want it to look this way, so I I put on this face if it looks this way. And sure, it looked that way, but I was lying to myself and to the people watching me because how can I tell you to do something if I'm not gonna be genuine and authentic with my own story? And so it inspired me to come out with the truths that happened and how I got here.

Lacey Nelson:

I was angry for a long time, just angry. It didn't ruin my life, but it was ruining my soul. And so I'm done being angry and I want people to know that there's a light on the other side of that darkness. You know? I don't mean to get biblical, but I am.

Lacey Nelson:

No. Go for it. You know? I one of my favorite scriptures is that the light will always overpower the darkness and the darkness will never win. Love The book of John says that the the darkness will never overwin and the darkness doesn't understand it.

Lacey Nelson:

It literally can't penetrate the light. So if you find your own light, guess what? You're free. You're gonna be free. And does that mean that you're you're free from troubles every day and struggles?

Lacey Nelson:

No. This is life. But you're free from the confines of what those struggles can make you become if you don't let it.

Linnsey Dolson:

Well, if you hold on to that like, know several people that, you know, I worked with or helped and they're like, so they have so much resentment and so much anger in them. And I'm like, you realize that holding on to that resentment is doing nothing for the person you're resentful at. Right? They don't give a shit. That's like swallowing poison and expecting the other person to die.

Lacey Nelson:

There it is.

Linnsey Dolson:

You need to forgive them for yourself. You don't need to forgive them for them. They don't give a fuck if you forgive them or not. You are making yourself sick holding on to that. Like, that resentment and trauma and everything you hold on to, that is affecting you.

Linnsey Dolson:

Not the person who abused you years ago, not whoever, not the boyfriend that cheated on you, like, that trauma was created from, you holding on to that is not affecting them. It's affecting you. And when you're able to release that, you can change your life.

Lacey Nelson:

And that's it. You know? And do I forgive my abuser? I don't know yet.

Linnsey Dolson:

And And you don't necessarily have to.

Lacey Nelson:

Right. I don't know yet. It I'm sure I'll get there.

Linnsey Dolson:

Sure.

Lacey Nelson:

But for me, memorializing it in a book and talking about it publicly like this, at least even just a little bit, it's, it's healing for me. It's And I may not forgive her ever, but I can work through it and she doesn't control me anymore. Right. She doesn't control my life anymore. I'm no longer going to be angry about it because, again, that drinking poison, expecting her to die from it.

Linnsey Dolson:

Right. That's exactly what it is. It affects you. I love how, like, authentic you are and just open. I just love everything about you, your vibe.

Linnsey Dolson:

Everybody I've met that knows you has positive things to say about you, which is incredible because that means the people that you are a part of their lives, you better their life.

Lacey Nelson:

And you do too. And I wouldn't be here, you know, if you didn't, like, immediately. We were friends on social media before we ever

Linnsey Dolson:

I know. I know. I love that.

Lacey Nelson:

A cosmic universal, I need to know this woman. She's powerful. And, you know, empowered women empower women. Oh, yeah. So we need more powerful women to bring other women up and stop being trying to cut everybody down all the time because look at what we can do when we come together.

Linnsey Dolson:

Oh my god. I agree so much. I agree.

Lacey Nelson:

You have you mark my words in this episode now because this moment will play at some point in the near future and the entire world will know our names and for good reason.

Linnsey Dolson:

Oh, yeah.

Lacey Nelson:

So it's coming. Manifest your dreams. Make it happen. It's not gonna just come when you lay around and do nothing all day. You gotta grind and put in the work and the time, but we're doing it.

Linnsey Dolson:

We are. I can't wait to see. We're talking about this. We're having a conversation on the way here texting back and forth about you're gonna do your board for the next two years, right, of what that looks like.

Lacey Nelson:

And you're gonna help me.

Linnsey Dolson:

Yes. I was telling her that you need to create a vision of what your two next two years looks like, a vision board, and then you break it down into goals. My pink Tesla was on my vision board, like, two years ago. San Diego was on my vision board, like, all of these things and just marking them off, marking them off, marking them off. And when they're off, you create a new board and you just start marking shit off.

Lacey Nelson:

Power of your mind.

Linnsey Dolson:

Isn't it crazy? Like, truly when people some people think, like, manifesting is, like, cheesy. It's not real. Shit's so fucking real.

Lacey Nelson:

It's real.

Linnsey Dolson:

It is so real. If you envision it and you truly manifest it, there isn't anything you can't do. There truly isn't.

Lacey Nelson:

Your mind is the most powerful frequency this universe has. So why are you not using it? It's crazy. If you feed yourself the negative, it will become. You ever and here's my last metaphor for you today.

Lacey Nelson:

You know when you go to pick something up, you're having a bad day, you go to pick something up and it falls out of your fingers. Damn it. And you go to pick it up again, it falls out, and you start cussing. It's because you told yourself that was gonna happen. Right.

Lacey Nelson:

Because you're already having this.

Linnsey Dolson:

You're setting yourself up for failure.

Lacey Nelson:

Yeah. You're like, I knew that was gonna happen. Well, if you knew it was gonna happen, look what you just did. You made it happen.

Linnsey Dolson:

Or people go, oh, that's just my luck. Well, if you go around and you say, that's just my luck, you're setting yourself up because you're already saying you have bad luck.

Lacey Nelson:

It's true. I say if it wasn't for bad luck, you'd have no luck at all

Linnsey Dolson:

Yeah.

Lacey Nelson:

Because you just keep making it happen. So change your mindset. Change your mindset, especially when it's hard, not just when you're having a good day. If it's the worst day, change your mindset and remind yourself it's not you don't have to live here. You don't have to unpack your bags here.

Lacey Nelson:

If you're here, today sucks, sure. And I have this little thing where if something sucks before noon, at noon, the day starts over.

Linnsey Dolson:

I remember you telling me that. Yeah. I love that.

Lacey Nelson:

Okay. Yeah.

Linnsey Dolson:

Exactly. You could start over as many times as you need to in a day.

Lacey Nelson:

That's right.

Linnsey Dolson:

But there's a lot of time in one day. If you waste a whole day in being in a shitty mood, that's a lot of time.

Lacey Nelson:

That's a lot of time. You know?

Linnsey Dolson:

Seriously, people, like, in one year, you could change your whole life. In one year, twelve months, if you put your mind to it, you can change your whole life. So let's do

Lacey Nelson:

Me and you. Fuck yeah. Today, September 21.

Linnsey Dolson:

Let's do it. Let's be on here

Linnsey Dolson:

one year from now talking about what we did in the next year. No. This is, like, my manifest it all, everything I've ever wanted era. Like, absolutely.

Lacey Nelson:

And if we can get five people in our lives to do the same, look at the power and that and that trickle effect.

Linnsey Dolson:

Oh, I love that.

Lacey Nelson:

Thank you for having me.

Linnsey Dolson:

Thank you. Lacey, tell everybody how they can find you.

Lacey Nelson:

Instagram, my name, l a c e y. Okay. Don't mistake me.

Linnsey Dolson:

That's right, Dana. And she's gonna be tagged.

Lacey Nelson:

I I I have to give my mom love for that one. Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, it's all under my name, everything. My website, laceynelson.com. So just come follow for some inspiration. Yeah.

Lacey Nelson:

Let me give you some love and and just tell you what I've done. I'm not trying to feed you anything. I just wanna inspire you even just a little bit each day.

Linnsey Dolson:

No. We are so lucky to know you. Like, honestly, you are one of my favorite humans. Every time I talk to I always tell you you're, like, one of my favorite humans. I know you do.

Linnsey Dolson:

For coming. I love you.

Lacey Nelson:

For my ego. You need to text me. Alright. I love you too.

Linnsey Dolson:

Thank you, guys.