Another Zelda Podcast

In this continuation of a fan-favorite topic, David and Kady return to the ambient wilds of Hyrule to discuss even more of the music that shaped Breath of the Wild. The listen and shares their thoughts on how silence, nature, and piano keys intertwine to shape an unforgettable soundtrack from subtle soundscapes to sweeping emotional motifs.

Whether it’s the delicate piano notes of Hateno Village or the dynamic stings of combat themes, David and Kady explore the musical moments that breathe life into one of the most atmospheric Zelda games ever made. So grab your Sheikah Slate, plug in your earbuds, and join us on this melodic journey through the fields, forests, and memories of Hyrule.

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Creators and Guests

Host
David Geisler
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Host
Kady Roberts

What is Another Zelda Podcast?

It’s a secret to everybody. | Another Zelda Podcast is a show wherein we talk about all things regarding The Legend of Zelda series!

Kady Roberts:

Hello, and welcome to another Zelda podcast. My name is Katie, and I'm here with my lovely cohost David. How are you today, David?

David Geisler:

Hi there, Katie. I'm the lovely cohost David. And actually, I something's weird. Something's weird in the studio right now. I don't know what's going on.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. So if you haven't yet seen with the title here, we are doing, Music of Breath of the Wild part two.

David Geisler:

Mhmm.

Kady Roberts:

And with that, David decided that we would switch spots today. So if you are on our Patreon at all and you can see the video, I am where he normally would sit and he's where I would normally sit. So I have access to his computer. Hopefully, you don't have anything, untoward on here.

David Geisler:

Certainly. No. I definitely don't. That's that's I definitely don't. The usually when we do these music episodes, somehow we'll pull the music up on an iPad or some kind of external thing for us to listen to or something, you know, click the files.

David Geisler:

And this time around, it's just the way the layout worked. We have to pull the files from the main computer. And and then I realized, you know, instead of me you're the one who put all these files together, all the different songs and stuff. And was like, well, then she's gonna be saying, like, no. Click that one.

David Geisler:

Don't click that one. Do click that one. And I was like, let's just put her in the command seat. And, Katie, for the first time in the history of this podcast, I'm not sitting in that chair.

Kady Roberts:

What can I say? I'm a trendsetter.

David Geisler:

I think I love it. Yeah. I think I love it. This is great. No.

David Geisler:

You do know what you're doing. You know all this software and stuff like that.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. No. I'm really excited. I am so excited to do a part two of the music. I'm glad people liked the first one so much.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. I'm such a big music person. I feel like I read into music too much, which is kind of a blessing I feel.

David Geisler:

You read into music enough. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. That's some of our biggest listener feedback is that people love your your takes.

Kady Roberts:

I I'm really glad.

David Geisler:

I feel so exposed over here. Is this what it's like?

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. It

David Geisler:

is. There's no desk covering. Oh my gosh. I just sitting

Kady Roberts:

got like two little armrests going.

David Geisler:

Know. You got the fancy chair. I I guess I have closer access to Schrodinger. Yeah.

Kady Roberts:

There you go.

David Geisler:

You

Kady Roberts:

emotional support Schrodinger over there.

David Geisler:

And I'm realizing now too, I also get the view of the all the, like, the the Zelda accoutrement and all the rest. I get to look at all that. From that seat, you're just looking at, like, a weird wall.

Kady Roberts:

Just, like, staring into your soul.

David Geisler:

I'm into this. I love this. I love this. You are driving to the fullest extent here in this episode.

Kady Roberts:

I'm so excited. So today we're doing character themes.

David Geisler:

Mhmm.

Kady Roberts:

Before we did, I believe I specifically did like songs that had day night cycles.

David Geisler:

Yeah. Yeah. They if I remember, it was kinda like it was almost like cities and towns specifically themes, but it was themes and and then the day night cycle variations on those themes.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. Because we did, the the writing stuff. So this is something specifically character themes. So we're doing like the ones you know and love, but also some monster themes. But before we hop in Mhmm.

Kady Roberts:

Listener feedback time.

David Geisler:

Let's do it. Also, I do I am loving the closer access to Schrodinger the cat here.

Kady Roberts:

This is nice.

David Geisler:

This is he's like in full pet mode here. I don't usually. This is this is I like this.

Kady Roberts:

So last time we did a listener feedback, I started. So do want to start?

David Geisler:

Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. So you know.

David Geisler:

Oh, yeah. So there's a this is a couple comments from a an Instagram post that I put out. It was a quick one where I I took the that cartridge right there, the Ocarina of Time original. That's from 1999. See, it's even a little faded.

David Geisler:

I took it out onto my back patio, my back porch, and then aimed up at the sky and just took a picture of it. Looked like a little bit of a monolith or something like Yeah. Got a little tree in the background. I don't think people could tell that I actually just took it in the middle of the city. Hopefully, it looked like it was in the wilderness a little.

David Geisler:

But, anyway, the comment, the the the not the comment. The description that I put with it was pure nostalgia in a plastic shell. From epic dungeons to the magical master sword moment, this game is legendary. Who else still has the original cartridge? Do you know what?

David Geisler:

This is not the Ocarina of Time one. This is one where I went to I so one of my favorite things to do with our Instagram thing I know you're looking at me like, David, don't. Don't do a whole another story. But I mean this. One of my favorite things to do with our Instagram account is, yeah, we have our graphics for each episode.

David Geisler:

And, yeah, we have, like, little graphics where I take a game screenshot and put the, you know, Zelda podcast on it. But then in between those graphics, I do pictures.

Kady Roberts:

I like them. They're cute.

David Geisler:

I think they're kinda cute too. They're fun to do, like, little picture. Sometime half the time I grab the stuff that's on the shelf here behind us.

Kady Roberts:

When I saw you use the Lon Lon Ranch thing I got you and wanted.

David Geisler:

Yeah. That was a blast. Immediately, of course, I wanted to use that. And so one of the things I do is sometimes they're just pictures here in the apartment or something like that. But, whenever I go on a camping trip, I'll grab two or three little tokens from one of the shelves.

David Geisler:

I'll put them in my hiking bag and I'll take pictures.

Kady Roberts:

Cute.

David Geisler:

In fact, maybe I should put a couple stories out there because Michelle's actually taken videos of me taking the pictures, like out in the wilderness with my legs, like, straddling a river while I'm holding my phone to take a picture of, like, one of the, you know, the gems or something like that. But, anyways, this one thing that I like to do is I'll go to try I'll try to I try to celebrate that we're in Chicago just a little bit. And so if I go to like the Garfield Park Conservatory, if I go to the beach or if I go to one of the other parks, Humboldt Park, any of them, I always tag the Instagram post as in that location.

Kady Roberts:

Mhmm. I try and do that too.

David Geisler:

Low key, I'm kind of celebrating Zelda in Chicago. And this was one of them, but this was at the Garfield Park Conservatory that is a gorgeous all year year round

Kady Roberts:

Mhmm.

David Geisler:

Garden that's underneath a bunch of glass and it's and it's cool. So anyway, okay, fine. So I had this I had I had this great shot of the original Nintendo cartridge right next to the Ocarina one there, as can see. Yeah. This is dangerous.

David Geisler:

Now that I can see all the shelves, I'm going start referencing them. I got to be careful. And to that, we had two two replies. Tim Vitullo, who we know well, we don't know, but Tim Tim's been a great supporter of the show. This was the first game I ever owned and beat.

David Geisler:

I received it for Christmas in 1995 with my SNES, and I have been a shameless Zelda trilogy fanboy ever since. Zelda fanboy ever since. I still have the system and its cartridge for nostalgia and 100% A Link to the Past at least once per year and still love it dearly. So guess what? This is not a picture of the Nintendo cartridge at Garfield Park.

David Geisler:

I'm really nailing it. I'm really nailing it. This is was also at Garfield Park, but I took the Super Nintendo cartridge and and put and put it in one of the plants or something like that as well. And then Gruber's Great Adventure also then says, hands down the best video game of all time, not only my personal favorite Zelda, but is the standard in the industry. I can't necessarily disagree.

David Geisler:

I think there's a couple Zelda games that in their moments in video game history have been their the the best video game of all time, blah blah blah blah blah. And I'm really happy that there's some A Link to the Past Love there.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah.

David Geisler:

Oh my gosh.

Kady Roberts:

So I'm moving on now to Apple Podcast. It's just titled With a Green Heart, five stars. This looks like it's by Jefe James One or maybe it's Jefe James One. It says, hi, guys. Just wanted to let you know that I love this podcast.

Kady Roberts:

I'm a huge Zelda fan, and I love listening to this podcast while commuting to work. I suppose someone's told you this already, but the three episodes before season seven, episode seven

David Geisler:

I remember

Kady Roberts:

this. All listed as episode four.

David Geisler:

Yeah.

Kady Roberts:

I mean to say, four is a cool number, but there are limits. Anyway

David Geisler:

Yeah.

Kady Roberts:

Thanks for creating this podcast. It's great. I especially love top 10 episodes and music episodes. Mhmm. And finally, take this, it's dangerous to go alone, green heart.

Kady Roberts:

PS, if the green heart emoji is the Zelda emoji because it's green, then is this the link emoji? And it is the, almost going to throw up emoji face that's all green.

David Geisler:

Could he read a green face?

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. It's it's certainly green. Thanks. Please read this comment. Well, we read it, James.

David Geisler:

Oh my gosh, James. Thank you very much. Yeah. Yeah. There was a I was going through I was overhauling the graphics about a season ago.

David Geisler:

It was because another Pokemon podcast was starting. Mhmm. And we really one of the most fun things we've been doing with those two shows is since another Pokemon podcast is a a literal, I guess, not well, I guess a spin off, but they're like a sibling show now. Yeah. The one thing we're doing is a lot of the other six five shows, we create new project files for the graphics, and we try to make we have a similar aesthetic.

David Geisler:

There's kind of a house style Yeah. To the graphics, but but with AZP and APP, I it is the exact same Photoshop files. And so it's really, really fun. So, like, the filters that I build for the AZP graphics, APP uses. In fact, I just had a nice meeting with Galutrad from APP where we're now their social media graphics are actually gonna look like a lot like the Zelda ones too.

David Geisler:

Anyways, yes. So there was a thing when I was overhauling all the graphics. The Photoshop files link. It's it's a thing where, like, you can have a Photoshop file linked to other Photoshop files. Yeah.

David Geisler:

And because I had made I I the last time I did this was, like, in 2019, so a lot of the files were, 2019 title graphic blah blah blah. And I updated everything, and it took me, like, four or five episodes to realize that I didn't update the link to the 2024 title graphic or something. And so, yes, it's true. For, like, four or five episodes, it just said four on the graphics. And and with me, with my dyslexia and all the rest, I I never even noticed.

David Geisler:

Yeah. I never even noticed the numbers were wrong. I saw this comment. I went back and looked at I was like, oh my gosh. That just completely slipped right through.

David Geisler:

I'm not that worried about it because we did just re with another Pokemon podcast coming back for their second season and us coming back from our season break for season seven, well, we've redone the graphics all over again. Yeah. So we're gonna go back through the library and update those graphics. That's all it was. But it's boy, that's boy, that is a lot of fun.

David Geisler:

You know, half the fun of making a podcast is making the graphics for the podcast, at least for me. Breath Breath to Tears. This is a this is a comment on YouTube from our Breath to Tears episode, and it's by Nick Roth, b one e. And he's and they say, I started playing Tears of the Kingdom as my first game when I when it released and and fell through a rabbit hole of lore. And since then, I have played Breath of the Wild, Twilight Princess, Ocarina of Time, and Majora's Mask.

David Geisler:

Every time I play it, I would research every little aspect and then listen to one of your podcasts on it. Through you, I have learned much more about many Zelda topics. I'm looking to start playing either Skyward Sword, Link's Awakening, or Wind Waker. Fascinating because we talk about those three often. If you have a recommendation on which one to try first, please let me know on a future podcast.

David Geisler:

I really hope you see this. Please, please, please see this. Yes. Absolutely. Thank you so much.

David Geisler:

Nick Roth b one e. I think for me of the three what do we got? Skyward Sword, Link's Awakening, or Wind Waker? Skyward Sword is the canonical beginning of the story, so you might enjoy that. Wind Waker's kind of in the middle.

David Geisler:

Link's Awakening is a little bit of an offshoot, but from a release order, it's one of the early ones. It's only the fourth link fourth Zelda game. Yeah. Do have any thoughts, Katie?

Kady Roberts:

Also, it depends on how quickly you wanna go through. Because I know for me when I play games, especially when I'm playing a Zelda game, sometimes I'll try and see which ones I can kinda knock out first. So I would say like Link's Awakening is a shorter game. So if you wanna play Link's Awakening and then go into something else, I would say out of them, if you're playing the HD version of Wind Waker, Skyward's probably the longer one. Mhmm.

Kady Roberts:

But they're all fantastic games. So no matter what you pick, you can always just hop to the next.

David Geisler:

But You you mentioned you played Choose the Kingdom, you have a Switch. The Wind Waker HD is a little harder to get right now. You can't get it on the Switch. Mhmm. And so but both Link's Wakening and Skyward Sword HD are on the Switch.

David Geisler:

Yeah. So I would go with one of those first.

Kady Roberts:

I was gonna say, if you want one that feels a little bit closer to breath, I would do the Skyward Sword one. But if you wanna just completely refresh your palette a little bit, the Link's Awakening, remaster or remake is really good. It's very different. Yeah.

David Geisler:

Cool.

Kady Roberts:

Alright. This one is a bit longer. This is from James O'Shea from Facebook Messenger, it looks like.

David Geisler:

Cool.

Kady Roberts:

Hi. Just sending a huge thanks for this amazing pod from The UK. Going through and ring and binging these has been amazing. I also just thought I would mention to you about my experience with Ocarina of Time that you may find amusing. I got the game as a birthday present and was super excited to play it after seeing some posters in my local games game shop flashed to my birthday, and I had to wait until I had finished school before being able to play it.

Kady Roberts:

To say I was amazed at the time was an understatement. I could not believe that games could look so good at the time. I played it so much and yet seemed like an eternity before reaching the Deku Tree. The feeling

David Geisler:

I love it.

Kady Roberts:

The feeling of accomplishment after defeating a dungeon by my 10 year old self was something I can always look back on fondly. I managed to get all the way to collecting the three spiritual stones and thought, this must be it. I have completed the game, something which I've never done with any game at my time.

David Geisler:

Oh my god. Amazing.

Kady Roberts:

Sharing an n 64 with two brothers was difficult, but I managed to do so much of the game by myself. One day, my cousin came to my house and mentioned that he had not played Ocarina of Time and asked to borrow it. And at this point, I thought I had completed the game, so why not lend it to him? Oh my gosh. Maybe around a year passed, and I finally retrieved the copy of the game back and thought to myself, I'll play this again.

Kady Roberts:

To my absolute bewilderment, I put game the big game on and see 20 hearts and all these little round medallions. I loaded the game and see a grown up Link. I recall not being able to fathom out what was going on. I was outside a big scary castle and a red tunic. I explored a little, but felt like I had to speak to my cousin.

Kady Roberts:

I called and asked him how this happened. He explained it to me and the rest is history.

David Geisler:

This is amazing.

Kady Roberts:

I thought you may find this story funny, and thanks again for all the great work on the podcast. Regards, Jimmy O'Shea.

David Geisler:

Yeah. That's great, Jimmy. Thank you. You know, one of the conceits of the Super Nintendo game A Link to the Past was part of its advertising campaign was when you think it's over, you learn it's just begun. Because it also used, like, the collect three things and then the world opens up mechanic, which Ocarina Of Time used as well.

David Geisler:

But, yeah, that must have been such a special thing.

Kady Roberts:

That's so funny.

David Geisler:

It makes me wonder. Jimmy must have just gotten that third stone and been like, cool. Alright. We're good. Like Yeah.

David Geisler:

I don't if you if you go to Temple Of Time, you know, you put the or you put the stones in and maybe you're just like, well, there we are. I love it. Oh, this is As you know, this is the one I've got a from the Ocarina of Time cartridge on the back porch. A whole yeah. Yeah.

David Geisler:

This one was kind of fun. It was I commented or I put the description as a whole legend packed into 32 megabytes, which is true. Can you even believe it? 32 megabytes. This picture, this screenshot I'm reading right now is probably hundreds of times larger than 32 megabytes.

David Geisler:

Pure adventure right out of the box. Okay, fine. But then CJ Retro Stuff said, I'd love for it to be. Wait, what? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

David Geisler:

Okay. This is about the film. I should have kept reading. It was a gateway to Hyrule. Hyrule.

David Geisler:

Do you think that I couldn't help myself because we were talking. We had just recorded our Patreon episode about the film. So then I added kind of late in the description just to see if anyone would pick it up. I said, do you think the film will be based on the Ocarina of Time style? And c CJ S Retro Stuff says, I'd love for it to be Ocarina of Time.

David Geisler:

Then we have then we have a weird David Lynch style cover covering Majora's Mask.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. That'd be fun.

David Geisler:

Oh, man.

Kady Roberts:

I am really excited for that movie. I hope it's good. Oh, I hope it's good.

David Geisler:

But I do too, For the sake of the IP.

Kady Roberts:

You know what's even better?

David Geisler:

Music. Breath of Wild.

Kady Roberts:

Music from Breath of the Wild. Correct, David. Good job. What films

David Geisler:

are going on? Here we go.

Kady Roberts:

Alright. So we are gonna just hop right in. I collected the pieces and kinda made my notes ahead of time. You are going in completely blind.

David Geisler:

Totally blind.

Kady Roberts:

Which will be great. It'll be a nice little dynamic. So we are going to start here with the guardians themes. Mhmm. Specifically, are going to start with Brivally.

David Geisler:

Cool.

Kady Roberts:

Wow. Yeah. So what I find really interesting about Revali's theme is that all the birds tend to have this concertina theme, which I think kind of ties back into Wind Waker, their first debut, the kind of pirate y style.

David Geisler:

Yeah.

Kady Roberts:

Also that his theme here, when you like kind of rescue him, his facade has dropped. It's a lot softer than he normally is. It's a lot airier. Wow. Not as brash, you know?

Kady Roberts:

I feel like it also has a lot of ties to the beginning of the game and that loneliness.

David Geisler:

There's echoes of the main theme in here too. Mhmm.

Kady Roberts:

And then finally, it fully lets that sadness in.

David Geisler:

Yeah. I can almost hear him talking.

Kady Roberts:

Mhmm. Until he brings his facade back, kind of being a little bit more brash with Link, meant to be airy and kind of soaring. But then it ends with this kind of thankful tone.

David Geisler:

Back into the accordion too, which obviously Cass is in this game. Mhmm. So maybe accordions are just part of the Rito.

Kady Roberts:

It's just a part of the Rito all throughout. Yeah. His theme is so pretty. I think his is really interesting. And when we get over to Daruk's, I'll talk about it more.

Kady Roberts:

But I feel like him and Daruk have polar opposite themes. I feel like it ties into the fact that they're very opposite characters. But we'll get into that when I get to him.

David Geisler:

Okay.

Kady Roberts:

Cool. Until then, we have Urbosa's.

David Geisler:

They really are opposite.

Kady Roberts:

Mhmm. This one's Urbosa's.

David Geisler:

Mhmm. This one I think I recall. Yep.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. So she clearly has the very heavy like South and West Asian theming into hers. What's also interesting is this specific theme playing is what plays at night in the Gerudo areas.

David Geisler:

Oh, really? Mhmm. It's like her essence, her spirit She is still there taking care of the

Kady Roberts:

was the ultimate chief. Her eyes are still watching, which I think is cool. But then I

David Geisler:

don't know. I love Yeah. The Breath of Wild piano. I really love it.

Kady Roberts:

It's gorgeous. And this kind of almost sitar that plays is so fascinating to me. I feel like Urboso is just such a strong character where just even though it's quiet, it feels like it's demanding your attention. And then you kind of have those vocals in the back Mhmm. Which is almost like all of the chiefs in the background.

David Geisler:

All the chiefs? It's a little reminiscent of some vocals in in other Gerudo experiences. Yeah. I love it. Mhmm.

Kady Roberts:

And then here, this theme that's playing is the typical fighting theme during the day. It's just a lot slowed down and kind of stripped of its parts.

David Geisler:

You're right. Mhmm. Downloaded.

Kady Roberts:

Until it kind of starts to end with this magical esque, like glittery sound, which might be ties to Ganon, to the magical essence of the Gerudo. It's very interesting.

David Geisler:

Yeah. Fantastic. I know these are in that, these are their themes. I think this is a lot of times, this is the music that's playing during, like, the cut scene where we're kind

Kady Roberts:

of,

David Geisler:

again, interacting with them and stuff. Yeah.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. Is.

David Geisler:

So it is a bit more orchestrated in that there's, you know, it's it's there's two different styles of music in a video game. There's the the style that has to exist kind of ambiently as you're moving through, which is I think what we explored a lot in part one, honestly. And right now, for now at least, we're because it's character themes, a lot of times it's music being executed in a more controlled environment like a cut scene.

Kady Roberts:

Mhmm.

David Geisler:

So there are more moments of, there's more dynamics really.

Kady Roberts:

Exactly. I think what is really interesting too, so I I talked a little bit with this off the pod with you. But when I was trying to pull songs, specifically with the character themes, there are kind of two different ones you can look at depending on if you look at the just base Breath of the Wild soundtrack where it just says like Mipha's theme Mhmm. Or whatever. But then if you go and get the DLC and if you listen to it on Nintendo music, they have different themes for the DLC.

Kady Roberts:

So it's like Revali, the strong warriors or something Well, I Revali's theme.

David Geisler:

And in the DLC, that that was all those scenes take place as flashbacks, like Mhmm. From before the the beasts even come up. So that that would be cool that it's that character in a different phase of their life.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. And I would love to do or to look into to that at some point, but

David Geisler:

Do you still not have the Breath of Wild DLC? I I think I ask you like every third episode.

Kady Roberts:

No, I don't. I'm gonna replay Breath of the Wild at some point.

David Geisler:

Before you do, let's make sure we

Kady Roberts:

get to

David Geisler:

the DLC.

Kady Roberts:

But the only problem is with those specific themes, you have to have Nintendo music to listen to them. They're not on YouTube anywhere, so it's hard to grab those files. But I digress. These are these are the themes we know and love and also where they're at currently in Breath. So we're gonna go with that.

Kady Roberts:

Cool. But, yeah. Let's run into Mipha's. So immediately, Mipha's is a lot softer with the piano and strings. But what I also find really interesting is hers is the most minimalistic Yes.

Kady Roberts:

Of all of them and the most repetitive, which almost kind of gives a feeling of people not really knowing the layers to her. That she's kind of people see her as this one note.

David Geisler:

Yeah. Yeah. I like that.

Kady Roberts:

And also it it definitely feels the saddest, which I think could also tie into the fact that she was the only one that had someone that she left behind.

David Geisler:

I think yeah. I think there's a lot of sadness in Mipha's story.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. Siden was the only Mipha was the only one with the family Yeah. That we knew, which was Siden.

David Geisler:

And even for her, like, you know, last episode we were talking about Rudo and stuff and her, like, crush on Link.

Kady Roberts:

Mhmm.

David Geisler:

And Mipha's they echo that a bit in this storyline where Mipha's clearly in love with Link.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah.

David Geisler:

And but in this story, my take in Breath of the Wild was that she kind of knew that it couldn't

Kady Roberts:

Oh, absolutely.

David Geisler:

And so there's sadness there too, but she's also being mature about it. You know what I mean? And understanding what needs to what actually needs to be.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. She kind of felt like her place was in the background and that's where she had to stay and she kind of spent her whole time there.

David Geisler:

I'm so happy you said that because my big takeaway as we were listening to this piece just now was that I think the instrumentation isn't that much different, meaning literally the piano and some of the strings and stuff, as the instrumentation that's just used in the Zohra environment. Exactly. Not like a lot of extra stuff is happening. It's just same instruments, similar instruments at least, same instruments with a different melody happening. So when that cutscene comes in or when we think about Mifa, it just flows right out of the normal sound that's happening in that environment anyway.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. No. It's very interesting. But with Daruk's, you'll kind of see when I get into it the difference.

David Geisler:

If there's a trombone, I'm gonna lose it.

Kady Roberts:

I'm sad to say. There's immediate brass going.

David Geisler:

I know.

Kady Roberts:

I'm just joking. Yeah. Gorons are the same with the Rudo, where the Rudo is always concertina. The Gerudo are always that big heavy brass.

David Geisler:

Yeah.

Kady Roberts:

But what's interesting and why I always said his is polar opposites is because he his starts really strong and then falls onto this more caring, more vulnerable side, Whereas Revali's is the exact opposite. Interesting. Because almost like he realizes his battle is done, and he can just fully let his mask drop and be his softer side, which he tends to be with Link.

David Geisler:

I think he is softer. Yeah. And I also think it's kinda like, you know, as you see this thing walking up to you, of course, you're gonna be like, oh, what's that? And then you realize Yeah. He's got that soft soul.

David Geisler:

But this is still their strength here.

Kady Roberts:

Oh, yeah. No. There's still a very strong presence in the back because it's really heavy with the bass pedals, kind of causing it to be that more staccato y feel still as the, the breaths kind of comes back in slowly.

David Geisler:

But you know what's leading here is this like oboe or this clarinet or whatever it Yeah,

Kady Roberts:

his theme is very interesting.

David Geisler:

Oh, Link. Let me help you.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. I I I just can't get over the Revali versus Daruk theming. I feel like it's such a fascinating thing, but it kinda kinda yeah. Finishes with their bosses there.

David Geisler:

Yeah. Yeah. That same kind of realization sparkle thing. Mhmm. Something's happening there.

David Geisler:

Yeah. That was wonderful. No. I was joking because it's like so much of the Gorons, which we've heard in

Kady Roberts:

the Oh, is like all. Yeah. It's their their iconic sound. All of them have iconic sounds, which I think is why breath music works so well Because you go to, the Rudo, it's all that concertina, like pirate y sounds. You go to the, Gorons, it's all the heavy brass and drums.

David Geisler:

Yeah.

Kady Roberts:

Grudo, it's more of that like sitar, like kind of East Asia or West Asian style. And then the

David Geisler:

Zora.

Kady Roberts:

So thank you. The Zora are typically more chimes, glockenspiel, like more airy flutes. Very cool.

David Geisler:

I love it.

Kady Roberts:

Now we're gonna move on to champions part two, which is their predecessors.

David Geisler:

What? Okay. Let's do it.

Kady Roberts:

Yes. These ones see

David Geisler:

this evolution.

Kady Roberts:

These ones are really short.

David Geisler:

I hear this. Yes.

Kady Roberts:

Except for sidearms, but his is repetitive, so it's still technically short.

David Geisler:

Interesting.

Kady Roberts:

But, yeah, we'll we're gonna do it in the same order. So we started with Rivali, so we'll start with Tiva.

David Geisler:

Right. Right.

Kady Roberts:

Tibos. Yeah. Tibos is interesting because of how much he wants to be like Revali, but he doesn't have that same arrogance to him, I would say.

David Geisler:

In the first couple seconds I met him in the game, I thought he was like feigning arrogance.

Kady Roberts:

Mhmm.

David Geisler:

Almost like putting it on.

Kady Roberts:

Like, because he's trying to be like Revali. So his theme is Revali's theme, but it's the piano softer version.

David Geisler:

Could you play that one more time? Yeah. Because you're right. I was talking over it. Rivoli absolutely happens in the second half.

David Geisler:

I'm gonna shut up.

Kady Roberts:

I can get it to play. Please. Please.

David Geisler:

Spaceball. Let me do it.

Kady Roberts:

Maybe I have to rewind it.

David Geisler:

Sorry.

Kady Roberts:

No. You're good. Your little there we go.

David Geisler:

The mouse is, like, on a

Kady Roberts:

There we go.

David Geisler:

Thing here too. It's driving me insane. There we go.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. I also like that they let the wind kind of have the wind is like an instrument in his beam.

David Geisler:

Absolutely. Yeah. Was quick. You're right.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. The these ones are very quick. But we'll go on to Reju, my girl. I love her. Hers is interesting because it's also the same, but it's much higher pitched to show how much younger she is.

David Geisler:

I love this. Yes, you're right.

Kady Roberts:

The backing instruments are also a lot stronger too. They're stronger than the melody, I would argue, which I feel kind of ties into her mother's teachings still kind of being behind her.

David Geisler:

There it is. Mhmm. Yeah. Cool. Yeah.

David Geisler:

All. Yeah. Don't know. Was trying to come up with something there, but you hit it with the with the beat being higher. Here we go.

David Geisler:

Let's do it. What do

Kady Roberts:

we Yep. Saidon. Imagine him flashing you that lovely smile. Saidon, same thing with Mifa, but his is much quicker than Mifa's.

David Geisler:

For walking arpeggios. Mhmm. Instead of just the chords.

Kady Roberts:

Instead of the piano, it's with this like flute here.

David Geisler:

The piano's doing the bass almost

Kady Roberts:

Mhmm.

David Geisler:

With the arpeggios.

Kady Roberts:

But, yeah, it runs as fast as he is.

David Geisler:

Yeah. What? Oh.

Kady Roberts:

Get percussion.

David Geisler:

Little tambourine in there.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. The percussion in there is interesting because not many of the Zora have it. No. And then you have these sudden cymbals that kind of jump in for, like, this sudden brashness. Like, he'll just pop up.

David Geisler:

A little bit of adventure there. Mhmm.

Kady Roberts:

But, yeah, I love his theme. I feel like they definitely made his the longest because you spend the most time with him Mhmm. Individually. But it it does kind of have just those basic parts, and then it kind of repeats like Mipha's. And then eventually, it just ends up fading out.

David Geisler:

Yeah. This tampering is just right with it now. Yeah. Interesting.

Kady Roberts:

Mhmm.

David Geisler:

It's so funny. I could almost hear the castanets from, like, Gerudo doing like

Kady Roberts:

Exactly. I think it just ties in with him. Yunobos is so funny. I it's yeah. It's it's unique.

David Geisler:

It's unique. Let's do it because he's goofy.

Kady Roberts:

He is goofy. So his is very scared and cautious.

David Geisler:

I think he's a little When you meet him then it

Kady Roberts:

gets into this really goofy sound, very clumsy, before he kind of realizes you're not a threat.

David Geisler:

Almost like a skittering mouse there.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. I I love the trope of like a really big and scary looking character being super scared of everything. I feel like, you know, falls into that so well. And his theme kind of reflects that really well too.

David Geisler:

Yeah. That's great.

Kady Roberts:

Do you you know what? Yeah. Let's keep going. I think once we hit some of the monster themes, we can go to break.

David Geisler:

Cool. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's good. I can't tell I can see how many files we got.

David Geisler:

Yeah. We probably got a few more.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. So let's go over to Impa, the queen herself. Mhmm.

David Geisler:

Old Impa. Mhmm. The only Impa in the game, actually.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. Hers is so mysterious. It has a lot of minor tones that kind of bring this old time feel, like things aren't really set correctly.

David Geisler:

Mhmm.

Kady Roberts:

But then you bring the classic, like, Japanese sounds into it.

David Geisler:

Which Kakariko Village leans in that direction in this game very much so. Whereas in other games, it's been depicted as all almost like a wild West town and other things. Some of this instrumentation is the stuff you hear in the in the shrines as well.

Kady Roberts:

Makes Yeah. She's very much tied to a lot of the old mysteries of the place, which I think this theme does great. I'm going to stop it there though. Sure. Just because, it just repeats, and I feel like we both kind of set our peace about it.

Kady Roberts:

But Purra, love her. Technically, this isn't called Purra's theme. Some of these aren't necessarily called so and so's theme, but this is this is Purra's theme. Right? When you play Tears of the Kingdom, it's the same kind of style.

Kady Roberts:

So I'm counting it.

David Geisler:

Yeah.

Kady Roberts:

It's very unique, very electric and staccato.

David Geisler:

Yeah. You can almost this is one of those songs where it's not sound effects, but the music is very much trying to evoke what's probably happening in the room. All the little gadgets and gizmos

Kady Roberts:

Yeah.

David Geisler:

Clicking around.

Kady Roberts:

A lot of things clinking. It's definitely more fun and youthful. And then when it gets to this like echo sounds, I kind of imagine that's her assistant running behind her, trying to like do what she's telling them or like clean up after her. I need three flowers. Exactly.

Kady Roberts:

Purr is such an interesting character. She's so unique. I'm glad that her song kind of matches that. Yeah. And then you get to this part that's really dissonant.

Kady Roberts:

And I feel like that's kind of the experiment that went wrong.

David Geisler:

A 100%. And I think the whole windmill is kind of, you know, depicted in that way. Even more so, the lookout observatory with the dude. But, yeah, it's some of the stuff's held together with duct tape, so to speak. Right?

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. It's so fun.

David Geisler:

But tinkering is afoot.

Kady Roberts:

The tinkering has happened Yeah. And it is going. And then it just restarts. Robbie, I think that's who you might

David Geisler:

have talked Yeah. Yeah. That's why I'm

Kady Roberts:

here. I also have Robbie here for the Acala. He is full electric pop. What? Oh, just wait.

Kady Roberts:

It gets it gets better.

David Geisler:

Is that

Kady Roberts:

I'm waiting for it to come in.

David Geisler:

Yeah. I have things to say.

Kady Roberts:

There it is. Yeah. Wow. He is full Elvis in this.

David Geisler:

So, you know, when Robbie was depicted to basically be like with a guitar and a rock star in Age of Calamity, A lot of people are like, what the heck? Yeah. But I can see where that inspiration came from after listening to this.

Kady Roberts:

Oh, yeah. No. He's full, like, pop rock, Elvis, like it's very electronic. The vocals constantly hop in, and it just keeps it cruising along. Wow.

Kady Roberts:

It really feels like something you would listen to while you were working on something. Yeah.

David Geisler:

Yeah. And whereas Purus is more tinkery, this one clearly is more tech.

Kady Roberts:

Mhmm. Yeah. It feels like he Software. Yeah. He knows what he's doing, and he's doing it good.

Kady Roberts:

Purus experimenting.

David Geisler:

Oh, I see. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Kady Roberts:

That's kind of where I'm at. Because at first when I was listening to them, I'm like, well, feels like Puros is like not doesn't know as much, her predecessors, but they both know a lot. They're both very smart. They both started around the same time and were good friends. It's just that now their paths have diverged a little bit.

Kady Roberts:

And he's kind of sticking with what he knows and and she's kind of branching out a little bit.

David Geisler:

I think so. I think you're right. Yeah. Yeah. Because he's the one that helps you, like, fix things.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah.

David Geisler:

Or she upgrades things.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. She upgrades stuff. He sells you, like, stuff for guardians and all that. But, yeah. This is cool.

David Geisler:

I still haven't gotten to Robbie in Tears of the Kingdom. I keep going. I can't I don't know where to find. Oh, no. No.

David Geisler:

Robbie's down in the main village.

Kady Roberts:

Mhmm.

David Geisler:

I haven't gotten to the anyways. Yeah. I haven't gotten into his observatory yet.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. No. You're good. Onto Fix. Thank you.

Kady Roberts:

What?

David Geisler:

You're like, yeah. You're good.

Kady Roberts:

Oh, yeah.

David Geisler:

Thank you. On my my very slow journey through to the kingdom.

Kady Roberts:

We're gonna move on to some of the more more side characters, including the lovely Cass. I know you don't like Cass' theme. No. No.

David Geisler:

It's okay.

Kady Roberts:

I adore his theme. The concertina still, that kind of Wind Waker esque feel. This is his full theme as well.

David Geisler:

I must have some repressed, you know, Pinocchio nightmare memory where that includes an accordion that, like, triggers for me. Some circus something.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. I feel like his theme is so nostalgic, which ties into his thoughts of his master that taught him. But what's also interesting Mhmm. Is with him being a bard telling the stories, he inevitably ends up with Zelda's theme coming in.

David Geisler:

Woah. That is cool.

Kady Roberts:

As if he's connecting all the legends together for you to find different things, which is very fascinating to me. And it's also why I love bard characters so much.

David Geisler:

Yes. You're right. You're right. I didn't think about it that way.

Kady Roberts:

Because they are the ones that hold all of the stories.

David Geisler:

I think it's Mario 64. I think it's the Mario 64 carousel that Uh-huh. Triggers for me when I hear that.

Kady Roberts:

Well, there you go.

David Geisler:

When you when I played that for the first time, that was genuinely scary.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. I'm not not played that. So that's probably why. I I can and I can have nightmares too.

David Geisler:

Well, at our age, it's nothing. But when you're a little kid, you're like, what is that?

Kady Roberts:

I threw Kilton on here.

David Geisler:

Sure. Let's do

Kady Roberts:

it. Kilton is interesting. So Kilton is the monster shop runner. Clearly very creepy and very off putting to tie into that.

David Geisler:

I like this.

Kady Roberts:

It's a lot of echoed tones for the night. What? Things aren't supposed to sound correct. It's not supposed to sound like an actual song because he's not supposed to be all all there.

David Geisler:

Mhmm. And that was literally some reverse notes there we just heard. Mhmm.

Kady Roberts:

Mhmm. It's very interesting.

David Geisler:

Because when you first meet him, you are kinda like, is this a guy I can trust? Is this good guy, bad guy? What's going on?

Kady Roberts:

Mhmm. And that's kind of how everyone is too, who you talk to. But then you get this piano and this lighterness as if he's trying to convince you that he's not threatening and that you can shop with him, but it still has those darker tones in the back where you're still not fully comfortable with him.

David Geisler:

I think for me, once I realized he painted the teeth onto his lips, that's when I was like, oh, I think we're good.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. Which I don't think I ever made that correlation until you mentioned it

David Geisler:

to me. Oh,

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. I just thought he looked like that. I was like, alright, dude. Yeah. He's

David Geisler:

because he's a he's dare I say it, he's tingle adjacent in Breath of the Wild. He's got

Kady Roberts:

That's a actually a really good way of putting it.

David Geisler:

You know what I mean? Yeah. Has a passion. 30 year old man with a passion.

Kady Roberts:

30 year old man with a passion and who's to tell him that's not right?

David Geisler:

Yep. Exactly. I love it.

Kady Roberts:

We're His friends gonna hop we're gonna do two more and then we'll go to break.

David Geisler:

Sure.

Kady Roberts:

So we're gonna do Master Koga. This isn't his battle theme.

David Geisler:

Okay. Sure.

Kady Roberts:

His battle theme is very different. This is just Master Koga's base theme. It's just called Master Koga theme. So his is very staccato. I feel like he's lugging around along Yep.

Kady Roberts:

Step and step at a time.

David Geisler:

But

Kady Roberts:

also, as it goes on with the staccateness, it turns into this kind of tango feel, which I feel like is typically associated with like fun bad guys.

David Geisler:

You're right. It's happening.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. It's a little tango section, which also could be him constantly going back and forth with the Gerudo or with the Sheikah.

David Geisler:

And also it's a little bit of his performative nature too.

Kady Roberts:

Mhmm. Exactly. Which is why I Uh-oh. The loud little ninja esque. True colors.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. No. He's he's so funny. I was talking with someone at the Zelda dungeon and her her son wanted a Master Koga costume.

David Geisler:

Oh. Like for Halloween or cosplay

Kady Roberts:

or something? Yeah. And so she's gonna take him to Comic Con with it because none of the kids knew who he was.

David Geisler:

Oh, I

Kady Roberts:

love it. She showed me a picture. He looks phenomenal. Yeah. It's amazing.

David Geisler:

They had the mask and everything.

Kady Roberts:

Oh, yeah. He she even put like a big like puffball to give him like the big stomach. It's great.

David Geisler:

Oh, that's that's funny.

Kady Roberts:

Last one before we go to break. Sure. The king's theme.

David Geisler:

Yeah. Sure.

Kady Roberts:

Which is very reminiscent of old times. I feel like it has a lot of ties to the classic king themes.

David Geisler:

And I guess specifically it's like king ghost theme. Mhmm. Because I would imagine this is happening

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. This one

David Geisler:

on the top Temple Of Time?

Kady Roberts:

Yes. Yeah. It's specifically this is called The Last King of Hyrule is what the song is called. Mhmm. Yeah.

Kady Roberts:

There's a lot of scarcity to it, which kind of I feel shows about how there's so much little left.

David Geisler:

Yes.

Kady Roberts:

And I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the Wind Waker boat, Red Lions, when you find out he's the king, has a similar theme to it.

David Geisler:

I don't know. That's awesome. Maybe so.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure when it reveals himself to be the king, that kind of theme plays.

David Geisler:

Interesting. Melody, there was a lot of breath the normal Breath of the Wild melody was in there.

Kady Roberts:

Exactly. But, yeah. So those are the base characters, and then we're gonna go into more of like the monster esque ones

David Geisler:

Loving it.

Kady Roberts:

After break. So we will see you then. Cool. Alright.

David Geisler:

You all got cat butt on your

Kady Roberts:

That's alright. Alright. Wanna hop back in?

David Geisler:

Yeah. Let's do it.

Kady Roberts:

And we are back. David, I'm having a blast. Are you having a blast?

David Geisler:

Oh, I'm loving the passenger seat here.

Kady Roberts:

Having a blast.

David Geisler:

This is like this is this is a treat in in many ways. I I love hosting, but and and obviously, like, when we sit here and you host some of these episodes, I host some. But to literally be over here Mhmm. Almost literally in the passenger seat is I just get to sit here and and listen and enjoy. It's it's phenomenal.

Kady Roberts:

No. It's great.

David Geisler:

I don't mind if there was more of this.

Kady Roberts:

So we finished with our main, like, character. I would say our human themes. Yeah. Which, you know, redone, whatever. But the people people.

Kady Roberts:

So we're gonna hop over to monsters and creatures.

David Geisler:

Got it.

Kady Roberts:

And we're starting with probably the most famous creature in Zelda games, which is the great fairies.

David Geisler:

Okay. I see. Yeah.

Kady Roberts:

Very classic.

David Geisler:

This is just lifted one for one. I mean, it's the it you know, it's the Ocarina of Time, great fairy song.

Kady Roberts:

I would say though, I feel like I don't know if it was like the Snack Arena, but the tempo is weird, which may be to make sure you don't feel too comfortable because they are otherworldly. But if you listen to the backing sound, it sounds like it gets out of tempo at times. Kind of fluctuating.

David Geisler:

Do you know what it is? It's that walking piano in the back is on a different time signature, I think, than the melody. Wait. Two, three, four. I think there's two different

Kady Roberts:

It's like two different tempos or time signatures going. Right?

David Geisler:

Or like two two melodies. That bass line is doing a different thing. It's walking at a different pace.

Kady Roberts:

Interesting. I feel like it's really just to give you that sense of, like

David Geisler:

So, like,

Kady Roberts:

they're off there. Slightly is off. Not that there's anything wrong with the great fairies, but they aren't they're ethereal being beings, you know? Like they they aren't human. They aren't monster.

Kady Roberts:

They're just kind of like this weird in between. So you don't wanna be too comfortable around them, but they are just so beautiful and, like, elegant that they just kinda bring you in.

David Geisler:

Let me let me try something. This is allegedly Ocarina of Time great fairy fairy theme. Oh my goodness. Oh my god. So embarrassing.

Kady Roberts:

David, you don't got YouTube premium? What are you doing?

David Geisler:

No. I don't pay for YouTube premium, and I shall not. Alright. Alright. Cool.

David Geisler:

Cool. Cool. Slower?

Kady Roberts:

Mhmm. It also doesn't have that

David Geisler:

The harp is it doesn't have that other background.

Kady Roberts:

I was gonna say it doesn't have the other backing piano that was fighting against the other one, which maybe maybe the two different pianos in the out of sequence is because there's four different fairies. They're all unique characters.

David Geisler:

Well, what's behind this one is the harp. Mhmm. And I'm wondering if that's the same thing, but because it's a piano in Breath of the Wild, it sticks out more. Let's pay attention to the harp for a second. Okay.

David Geisler:

So did you hear the harp is waiting to stay in? I don't know. I think I don't think the pianos I think there's something weird going on in the Breath of the Wild one. I think there's a weird piano piece.

Kady Roberts:

I think so too.

David Geisler:

Yeah. Because the harp waited. It went it had a it had a rest in there to stay on.

Kady Roberts:

Exactly. The Breath of the Wild one just keeps going.

David Geisler:

It feels like it just keeps going. It was hard to track, yeah.

Kady Roberts:

May

David Geisler:

By the way, I pulled it up real quick on my phone. Don't worry about editing that into the cut or anything. We just need

Kady Roberts:

that right on the mic. You're good. I figured. You may not have come across this person, but Melania has his own theme and Melania is the horse fairy.

David Geisler:

I have gone to the horse fairy.

Kady Roberts:

So horse fairy, you find him. He's a big horse fairy. He can bring your horses back to life. He gets real upset if they die, but he forgives you and brings them back for you. So his theme is just straight stable theme with the fairy theme in the background.

David Geisler:

Still off.

Kady Roberts:

It's still off.

David Geisler:

Yeah. There are two I think it is. Think it's two different time signatures. Mhmm.

Kady Roberts:

Which is such an interesting choice to do. When did it come back?

David Geisler:

Does it take

Kady Roberts:

Or maybe it's not two different time signatures, but they're emphasizing different

David Geisler:

Can you start this from the top? I'm gonna try to count off that flute.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. Absolutely.

David Geisler:

Thank you.

Kady Roberts:

Dude. Pause. Pause. Do you want this one from the start or do you want

David Geisler:

Horse. Horse fairy.

Kady Roberts:

The horse one.

David Geisler:

Yeah. You.

Kady Roberts:

Okay. Here you go.

David Geisler:

234. It

Kady Roberts:

like slows down.

David Geisler:

I don't even I can't even.

Kady Roberts:

It's like half of the off. 234. +1, 24. +1, 34. 234.

Kady Roberts:

4. 1. It it slows down.

David Geisler:

Which that no. Yeah. It's they're just two different I think they're two different tempos in 10 times six years. I think every fifth or sixth measure, they wind back up.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. It

David Geisler:

sure feels

Kady Roberts:

that way. Yeah. It's the same with the Great Fairy one. The tempo just slows for a minute and then hops back in.

David Geisler:

We don't have to go back into it, I'd be interested in what that other piano part really is, you know. Mhmm.

Kady Roberts:

I agree.

David Geisler:

Boy, that's a bold choice.

Kady Roberts:

It's interesting. I like it. It just it it threw me when I first listened to it. We know him. We love him.

Kady Roberts:

The Deku Tree. Right?

David Geisler:

Yep.

Kady Roberts:

Very fascinating. Play it here for you. Forest and rain sounds as the instruments for some of it. Some of the woodwinds. Mhmm.

Kady Roberts:

Because they're in the woods, obviously.

David Geisler:

And smaller chimes.

Kady Roberts:

Mhmm. Smaller chimes for the Clorox.

David Geisler:

Yeah. Literal bird sound effects.

Kady Roberts:

Mhmm. Birds and wind, rain, kinda hear the Koroks start to move around.

David Geisler:

Is that really part of it?

Kady Roberts:

Some of the beginning of the game playing.

David Geisler:

Mhmm. Mhmm. This is totally evoking nineteen eighties fantasy.

Kady Roberts:

Mhmm. It's very peaceful. Kind of hear the propellers of the Koroks. Crazy town. It's very nostalgic.

Kady Roberts:

It's interesting. It's very unique. Just slow and watchful, peaceful, no one comes here, but kind of this off tone.

David Geisler:

Pulled back in. I was waiting for the piano to take the lead, it hasn't.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. This is one of the few songs I don't think the piano really stands in.

David Geisler:

I was in there for a second. Well, okay. Maybe the piano stands for Link's journey.

Kady Roberts:

Mhmm.

David Geisler:

You know what I mean? I'm serious.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. No. That's what I always kind of felt.

David Geisler:

And we're not doing Link's journey. I mean, it's it's an integral part, but we're actually reminiscent. We're like, it's the Daegu Tree's journey.

Kady Roberts:

Mhmm.

David Geisler:

Cool.

Kady Roberts:

Daegu Tree's cool. And jumping off of that, real short and sweet. What is that? Hesseus theme. Gosh.

Kady Roberts:

Hey. I had to throw it in. I was gonna say explosions. You know, fun, wooden. Yeah.

Kady Roberts:

That's what he is. Fun and wooden. Mhmm. That's it. Just wanted throw him in there.

Kady Roberts:

One that you may not come across naturally is Lord of the Satori Mountain.

David Geisler:

I mean, I love this experience in Breath of the Wild.

Kady Roberts:

So if you don't do a lot of deep divey things in Breath of the Wild, what happens is you see like the little blue blue piece? What are they called? Blue

David Geisler:

Yeah. Yeah. It's like

Kady Roberts:

The little blue rabbit guys.

David Geisler:

Blue rabbits. I think they might be literally called blue peas.

Kady Roberts:

I think they're called blue peas. Right?

David Geisler:

E e e, I think. Yeah.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. And they tend to show up near fury fountains. But

David Geisler:

Mhmm.

Kady Roberts:

If you catch it on a certain day, there's a mountain where they have a lot of bloopies and then there's like the lord of the bloopies. Yes.

David Geisler:

It's a and also it's signified by there's a pink, like a cherry blossom tree that's up there with a ton of leaves that have fallen. But furthermore, on nights where you can see what would appear to be the equivalent of an aurora borealis over that mountain, that's when the lord of the blue piece is showing up. So if you're not there and you see it, get there.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. And the Lord of the Bloopies is this like horse like one.

David Geisler:

With like four faces?

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. Like four faces. It's it's like a mix of like a bloopie and a deer and a horse and you can ride it. You can't make it into a horse though,

David Geisler:

which is You kinda can't stable it. Just like you can't do it with a bear or a deer, but you can technically jump on its back. Yeah.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. But he has his own theme. And it's Lord of Satori Mountain.

David Geisler:

Yeah. I cried the first time. Literally teared up.

Kady Roberts:

It's that same like kind of mysteriousness that Keltans has, but it feels more beautiful in a way.

David Geisler:

Well, whole experience is a an homage to Satoru no, not Satoruwana.

Kady Roberts:

The scuttling of the blue I think it's too. They have like the dissonant notes to make it feel more alien. Just banging on wood.

David Geisler:

Yeah. It's almost scary when you first meet it, but the whole thing lit I mean

Kady Roberts:

I mean, they have that kind of, like, grand or not not a grand piano. Can't think of what it's called. That specific kind of piano there in the back that's very old and it's it's tend to be in the core music.

David Geisler:

They're like harpsichords, but they're something else.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. It just keeps repeating.

David Geisler:

Yeah. It's a beautiful moment. It's a it's a it's a thank you to I we did Satoru Iwata, the the old the Nintendo CEO that passed away prematurely. And so that's why it's called Satoru Mountain. And he passed away halfway through the making of Breath of the Wild and he was a phenomenal CEO.

David Geisler:

Yeah, I was very sad when he he passed. And so this whole moment, this whole creature was to to,

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. You know, recognize I love that. That's so pretty. Not pretty and very scary.

David Geisler:

It is?

Kady Roberts:

The the Guardian theme.

David Geisler:

I love this as a meme.

Kady Roberts:

You know, got that fast piano for your distress, but the electric elements and that repetitiveness for it's a machine that's moving and clocking.

David Geisler:

And this overdriven electronic elements where you can almost feel like it's peaking a little. It's very reminiscent to some of the audio that happens in Twilight Princess. And I think they're doing that on purpose.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. I like that it feels like it's meant to be like crawling and like crawling and dragging itself along after you. Yeah. I was kind of surprised that there wasn't any of that actual explosion sounds in its theme. I like the violin.

Kady Roberts:

It sounds like it's looking around Mhmm. And finding things.

David Geisler:

Yeah. Hear how notes are distorted? Mhmm. The electronic ones? That's they Zelda loves to do that when it's like some there's like a dark energy or something that's controlling it.

David Geisler:

That's why it happens all the time in Twilight. There's like entire creatures that just make that

Kady Roberts:

Got the pinging? Like it's pinging to other people? Yeah. Because it is it was originally used for security. Akamak.

Kady Roberts:

Mhmm. Yeah. And then it just starts again.

David Geisler:

What?

Kady Roberts:

So good.

David Geisler:

Oh, it starts again. Yeah. Oh, I thought you gonna cue it again. Was like, is there another version of

Kady Roberts:

this theme? Oh, yeah. No. Here we go. This is the

David Geisler:

knight version? This is the not controlled by Calamity Ganon

Kady Roberts:

This is the crawling one. This is the this the broken down and the ground one. This is when you defeat one leg. This is when you defeat three legs.

David Geisler:

If there were that many themes, I would be that'd be like that's like the the the shop in Skyward Sword.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. Same hat kind of is the Mulduga battle.

David Geisler:

Yes. Classic.

Kady Roberts:

Big sand monster.

David Geisler:

Classic. Good stuff here.

Kady Roberts:

This one's interesting because it feels very African with the drums.

David Geisler:

Okay.

Kady Roberts:

Which maybe that's just me. I got the, like, strong cello in the back for how big it is. It makes it feel heavier than if it was a violin. And it's fast. It's very fast.

David Geisler:

It's like only cello. That's awesome. Mhmm.

Kady Roberts:

It's just like cello and drums and percussion. And what I find really cool about it is it almost feels like a dance in a way.

David Geisler:

Fighting these things is like a dance, but it kind of is.

Kady Roberts:

Exactly. It's it's supposed to be a back and forth, which I feel like the music kind of puts together really well.

David Geisler:

That melody is like straight out of a nineteen nineties action film. The melody.

Kady Roberts:

Mhmm. And then you get back into it. And then the cymbals, like it's jumping out of the sand. Yeah. It's so good.

Kady Roberts:

I do want to skip a little bit

David Geisler:

Okay. With this one.

Kady Roberts:

Because this theme is really long. This one's like four minutes, five But minutes if we get to I have it written down here. It keeps going over and over again until you hit about two fifty.

David Geisler:

Okay.

Kady Roberts:

Halfway through. And things change. There. What? It immediately becomes What?

Kady Roberts:

More fun as if you finally understood the dance. As if you finally figured out how it's supposed to go.

David Geisler:

Is this like after it gets down to a certain amount of life or something?

Kady Roberts:

It might be. I bet it is.

David Geisler:

Yeah. Which implies, like, oh, you're figuring it out. Yeah. Because how else do you trigger this? This is amazing.

David Geisler:

I don't even remember this, and I've fought a number of Madokas. I I enjoy fighting them because it's so weird and fun.

Kady Roberts:

It keeps that really strong, like, South Asian feeling as it gets faster.

David Geisler:

Those flutes are going insane.

Kady Roberts:

Mhmm. It feels as if it's getting more dangerous but more fun as you go.

David Geisler:

Mhmm. Wait. I'm not picking up any other themes. We're not referencing

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. It's very it's very much its own theme.

David Geisler:

Let's see if they go back to that.

Kady Roberts:

What I like about this one is it's like dodge dodge bomb.

David Geisler:

Oh, yeah.

Kady Roberts:

It's very cool. Classic. Classic. Yeah. It's like the violin kinda switches out for the cello for, like, the main sound as if you realize, like, it's not so big after all or it's not so tough.

Kady Roberts:

It's cool. And then it just slowly starts to fade out as you get towards the end.

David Geisler:

I'm also realizing what those what those chillers are doing Mhmm. Is not dissimilar from the Jaws theme.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. It is very it's a very similar You know mean?

David Geisler:

It's that kind of Yeah. Pounding A sand shark kind of thing.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. I loved the Molduga battle when I did it for the first time.

David Geisler:

They're fun because you jump up on those islands, you have a moment to kind of assess.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. And then

David Geisler:

The islands.

Kady Roberts:

The race. Yeah. Sticking with the monsters.

David Geisler:

We'll do it.

Kady Roberts:

We got the the Hinox. Mhmm. The big old giants with one eye. Very clumsy.

David Geisler:

Yeah. But remember the first time bumping into one up on the Great Plateau?

Kady Roberts:

Oh, they're terrifying. Is this? Oh, yeah. No. They're scary.

David Geisler:

Is it the Great Plateau? Doesn't matter.

Kady Roberts:

And it keeps that, like, heavy brass. Like, it's big and dangerous.

David Geisler:

I think I'm thinking of that rock thing. Right.

Kady Roberts:

There it classic.

David Geisler:

There it is. Yeah.

Kady Roberts:

It feels very slidey with the brass, but then very bouncy as well. Like, it stomping around and it's got its big old belly jiggling.

David Geisler:

Yes. All of this. Look at that.

Kady Roberts:

As you kind of have I don't know if this is an oboe, but it sounds to me like an oboe that starts to kinda lead it. I think I might have just missed it.

David Geisler:

Was it that bla bla bla bla bla?

Kady Roberts:

Yeah.

David Geisler:

That's trumpets.

Kady Roberts:

Oh, No. No. Not that. It might be coming up. But This.

Kady Roberts:

This might not be an

David Geisler:

open. No. That's a that that I know I know what that instrument is. I can't remember what it's called. Fascinating these high high nox, hinox, hinox, hinoxi have so much of like the Gerudo sounds to them.

David Geisler:

Mhmm.

Kady Roberts:

But they

David Geisler:

don't live over there.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. That is the case with these. Some of these just seem like they kinda pull it out of nowhere, but I don't I'm not mad about it.

David Geisler:

What is that? What? We put a nineteen twenties jazz twirl in there on the trumpet?

Kady Roberts:

Oh, yeah. It's very jazzy. What? It's very it's very strange.

David Geisler:

No interlektronic. Not bad. Fascinating.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. And she repeats.

David Geisler:

Mhmm. Mhmm.

Kady Roberts:

What you were thinking about earlier was the stone talus, which is the Stone talus.

David Geisler:

Of course.

Kady Roberts:

Of course.

David Geisler:

Oh my gosh.

Kady Roberts:

Which again, to me feels very African in the sense that it reminds me of Be Prepared by Scar. Just at the beginning part, and then it But gets into its own such heavy tones.

David Geisler:

Well, okay, rocks, we've got that kind of Goron esque kind of remember the theme being in there.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. Slow and lugging. I like the strong bass drum in the back. The steel drum comes in.

David Geisler:

Yes.

Kady Roberts:

There's tons of different drums and, like, percussion usage in this for, like, the different stone rocks because there's an electric drum.

David Geisler:

I mean, this is just insanity.

Kady Roberts:

It's one of my favorite monster themes in any Zelda game. Got the vocals coming in for, like, the big final.

David Geisler:

Every couple seconds, something different is

Kady Roberts:

happening. Mhmm.

David Geisler:

And I suppose that that kinda lines up with every couple seconds of fighting it, something a little bit different is happening. You're running, you're jumping, you're getting up on top of it. Mhmm. Rocks are being thrown.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. I Ugh.

David Geisler:

Fascinating.

Kady Roberts:

I love it.

David Geisler:

It's so funny because it sounds so familiar, but I've only listened to it in gameplay. And so when you're in gameplay, you just feel it more than critique it. Mhmm.

Kady Roberts:

And I think that's what's interesting about the Talos theme is because it's so percussion and bass heavy, you really just feel it. Mhmm. It's so cool. Yep. Big finale.

Kady Roberts:

Okay. We are now moving to some of the the the biggest bads of the game.

David Geisler:

Oh, you just did hands together.

Kady Roberts:

Yes. I'm being very serious.

David Geisler:

I'm ready for the third half of your Ted talk.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. With this though, we're gonna skip around a little bit.

David Geisler:

I'm loving this.

Kady Roberts:

Because we're going to go through all the blights.

David Geisler:

Oh, sure. Wow.

Kady Roberts:

All the blights are slightly different.

David Geisler:

Yep. Love it. Love

Kady Roberts:

this But whole because there's just slight differences, I don't wanna play the entire three minute theme.

David Geisler:

Mhmm.

Kady Roberts:

Probably just play, like, the first, like, thirty seconds to a minute.

David Geisler:

I'm gonna imagine there's either some connecting it's either gonna be like there's a connecting melody played by different instruments or there's gonna be different or there's gonna be a bass melody. I don't know. I don't know.

Kady Roberts:

It's interesting. I also organized them in the same order as I did the champions. So we're gonna start with the wind blade.

David Geisler:

Let's do

Kady Roberts:

beginning. Mhmm. All of them have this strong beginning before you get into their unique melody, which this one is the concertina because of the connection to the burrito. The vocals in the back for that airiness and the operatic scariness.

David Geisler:

Right.

Kady Roberts:

I would also argue this is the loudest that the theme comes through, which might tie into Dorito's rations. And

David Geisler:

I do feel like this is the most intensely epic one because you're like up in the sky and all of that, you know. I mean, they're all intense, but you think about the camel one, it's like you're in this tight little belly and it's around. This is like you're looking up, this thing's flying all over.

Kady Roberts:

Mhmm. Yeah. That is mainly, I believe what I wanted to show for that one. They kind of stay the same throughout except for that little beginning portion.

David Geisler:

Okay. I see. I would love to hear how this is different.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. So this is the Thunderblight, the Brutal. So same start.

David Geisler:

Get the drums already from the area.

Kady Roberts:

Mhmm.

David Geisler:

Yeah. It's much

Kady Roberts:

quieter. Like the quietness because it makes you feel like you have to come closer.

David Geisler:

Yeah. This is this is the closest range combat one. Mhmm. Because you're actually having you have to do the dodge thing.

Kady Roberts:

Even the vocals are

David Geisler:

quiet. Yeah.

Kady Roberts:

Which I think is fantastic. Before you hop back into the the usual blight.

David Geisler:

The usual blight. It's still different instruments, I think. I think. Yep. Cool.

David Geisler:

Cool. Cool.

Kady Roberts:

Always that way. Uh-huh. Water Blade is my personal favorite.

David Geisler:

Cool.

Kady Roberts:

Wyatt. It's the most different for sure in the way it sounds.

David Geisler:

So there's pianos that been the same

Kady Roberts:

for all of them. This one has the block and spiel and clarinet. Really adding Yeah.

David Geisler:

Love it. Love it. Here we go.

Kady Roberts:

Fireblight is the last one. Yeah. Fireblight stop imitating my hands.

David Geisler:

I'm so sorry. It was it I like it.

Kady Roberts:

Fireblight's weird. Yeah. You'll see you'll see. I'll play it. Think this is the Gorons.

Kady Roberts:

Right? Think what what you might imagine you'd hear from the Gorons. Right? What? It's not at all Gorons.

David Geisler:

No? Not in

Kady Roberts:

the slightest. It feels more Gerudo. Gerudo. That's why Gerudo's so much against it because it's so different. I don't know.

Kady Roberts:

I'm just grasping the straws. It's interesting. Interesting. Again, the drums are way stronger. It's odd.

David Geisler:

There's that the drums are in there harder. It's very similar to the camel, but it's more bold.

Kady Roberts:

It's it's more bold. It's a different instrument, but it's still not the the brass move. Imagine what the forearms with, you know? It's odd. But, yeah.

Kady Roberts:

It's I don't know.

David Geisler:

Cool. I love it. I love it. I love it. Yeah.

David Geisler:

I I thought Imagine writing those. Sorry. Imagine being the person writing those.

Kady Roberts:

Well, no. Exactly. Yeah. That's what I love so much. And I was just about to say with the four different, they're all the same theme.

Kady Roberts:

But you have to imagine, okay, this is taking place in this specific area with these specific themes tied in, which is why, like I said earlier, breath does such a good job of keeping the areas feeling contained in a way with the music choices that they do. Mhmm. And so they were able to set themselves up with for success by keeping those strong themes. So then when you throw that big bad in that area in, you're able to tie those themes in and it all feels very complete.

David Geisler:

Yeah. Yes. Super cool. And and then and then also what was interesting is the parts that were exactly the same. You know, what parts of the what part of that, you know, you're gonna draw a different picture on the same white paper.

David Geisler:

Like, what's you know, what are those parts that are the same? That was amazing.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. We are moving on to the final two that I've picked. The final two gotta start with the Calamity. Calamity Ganon himself. Yep.

Kady Roberts:

This one, if I remember correctly, isn't crazy long.

David Geisler:

Be very interesting how much this is similar to the Blights.

Kady Roberts:

It's very different.

David Geisler:

It is.

Kady Roberts:

It's very operatic. You know, opera tends to be associated with villains. Mhmm. You have the organ coming through a bit.

David Geisler:

Which is referencing Ocarina of Time.

Kady Roberts:

I would argue tending to be associated with death in a lot of ways. I like the afterlife. But you have this very fast and aggressive toning as it slowly goes up the scale.

David Geisler:

It's coming to get you.

Kady Roberts:

Making a lot of use out of the string instruments for sure, but still with that strong organ in the background.

David Geisler:

Cool.

Kady Roberts:

I adore the opera horns in this.

David Geisler:

Yeah. They're coming right up the base there.

Kady Roberts:

It's scary. It's big. You beat calamity. Now you gotta deal with beast. Yep.

David Geisler:

Oh, yes. Wonderful. I was wondering what the last one would be, of course.

Kady Roberts:

Dark beast. So

David Geisler:

Mhmm.

Kady Roberts:

I I could be wrong. I believe when I took these I I downloaded these like a week or two ago. Mhmm. Calamity Ganon and Beast Ganon have technically like three different theming as you go through their battles. I picked the first

David Geisler:

Got it.

Kady Roberts:

Section because I figured that's your first impression of them that So they want you to this is the Dark Beast Ganon battle. Immediately, the electronic ties to the guardians.

David Geisler:

Yep. The distorted notes. Mhmm. What?

Kady Roberts:

You have some of that guardian theme in.

David Geisler:

Yeah. And yep. And the piano is because you're on your horse. It's evoking some of those horse themes that we did last in the last episode.

Kady Roberts:

Before you come in with the game theme.

David Geisler:

Oh my gosh.

Kady Roberts:

It's as if Link is trying to fight through. It's that distance between Ganon and Link. Because you can hear Ganon's being still in the background with that electronic as it goes fast trying to, like, take the center stage, but can't quite get past Link's being.

David Geisler:

And if the piano if the piano is Link, like, it's it's going nuts here, which is great.

Kady Roberts:

And then it becomes softer as if Zelda's trying to push through. Yes. And you still can hear Ganon fighting in the background. Very heroic. Ganon coming in.

David Geisler:

Come on

Kady Roberts:

bring it.

David Geisler:

Stop him. We need it.

Kady Roberts:

And then they do a rewind, and Link comes back. Wow. Because Ganon takes center stage, and Link immediately pulls him back.

David Geisler:

Yeah. This is amazing.

Kady Roberts:

And almost with that theming of me kind of saying it's like a tide of the loneliness, it's like this is the final time that he will be lonely because everything will be back as it was. If you played the game how it's meant to be played, you'll have all your memories back. Zelda will be back. Everything is fixed. So it's as if, like, the final lonely battle as his theme comes through.

David Geisler:

For some, we're getting brass. Mhmm.

Kady Roberts:

So this one gets kind of that repetitiveness as well, but I do wanna go towards the end here. Yeah. Because as you reach the end, it's that softness as it comes through. And it ends with the fling of an arrow.

David Geisler:

Of course.

Kady Roberts:

Is so brilliant.

David Geisler:

Weird. Wow.

Kady Roberts:

That they put that in. Yep. Because if you you fight Ganon, every battle ends with the light arrows.

David Geisler:

That's right.

Kady Roberts:

That final arrow soaring through before it makes contact and the game ends.

David Geisler:

Oh, that was amazing. Thanks for putting that together.

Kady Roberts:

Those were my picks. Dude. Dude.

David Geisler:

That was great.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. I I had so much fun analyzing all these. I I love getting to analyze music for fun and for a living. This is great.

David Geisler:

I enjoy doing these music episodes with you. You bring a you you they're always it's always nice to do a music episode.

Kady Roberts:

Mhmm.

David Geisler:

I've I've done them with other co hosts in the past, but you bring a new layer to them and I really, really appreciate that.

Kady Roberts:

Aw.

David Geisler:

Yeah. It's really a blast to do.

Kady Roberts:

You're so sweet. Yeah. Any final thoughts or notes?

David Geisler:

Well, I think one thing that we could take away, the one I kinda alluded to this already, but a lot more decision making in these themes than, like, the ambient music that we were listening to in part one of this series that we're doing.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah.

David Geisler:

And so they were a little bit more cinematic in those ways, But the themes were the the lit like, the themes via instrumentation were a little stronger. The the the main No. No. I just think I think, you know, it's just interesting because these these this music we listened to in this episode had more more specificity and there was little bit more direction. They were about a thing.

Kady Roberts:

Mhmm.

David Geisler:

Whereas in our part one, was like, oh, this is that environment, which is great. And guess what? It's going to kind of evoke an homage this other thing from another game. So sometimes a theme will come in and out. Sometimes it'll be reinterpreted.

David Geisler:

Sometimes it'll be slowed down. In this episode, this part two that we're doing, I think it's just happened organically by having these be themes, essentially themes written for the, we'll say characters in Breath of the Wild. They're most of them are originals.

Kady Roberts:

You know what mean?

David Geisler:

And so we had a lot of new music and a lot of new things happening in this episode.

Kady Roberts:

I am so interested anytime anyone writes a character theme because you not only have to know that character well and what they are meant to represent and evoke, but you have to know what specific instruments are typically tied with what specific thing.

David Geisler:

Yes.

Kady Roberts:

So with Mipha, you had that really light piano and flute because those are typically softer, typically younger feeling, those kind of things. Whereas you go to, Daruk and it's that heavy brass and trombone because that's meant to show like that boldness and almost not clumsy isn't the word, but not really caring what happens to you. You're just running head first without thinking.

David Geisler:

You kinda don't need to care. Yeah. Most things bounce off you Exactly. Literally and metaphorically.

Kady Roberts:

Exactly. And they kind of add that too with I think at some points they have the little trombone.

David Geisler:

Yeah. Yeah. The muder thing.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. Whatever it use to do more with it. Yeah. Man, I love doing music episodes.

David Geisler:

Between the between the, halves here, you asked me if I had like a favorite so far or anything like that. Mhmm. I would still be hard pressed, I think my favorite experience was examining those blights. That was really, really cool.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. No, I'm so glad. I was a little worried because I knew they were so similar, but I felt like I would be doing a disservice if I didn't point out the differences.

David Geisler:

Well, that's when you can really get into the mechanics of the whole thing is when you can explore what parts are similar and what parts are different. And so that was that was awesome.

Kady Roberts:

Exactly. Before we sign off

David Geisler:

Mhmm.

Kady Roberts:

I'm curious. Is there any Zelda game that you would really wanna do a music episode of at some point in the future?

David Geisler:

We technically did a Twilight Princess one a million years ago. Exploring that again would be cool. I think you know what we've never done? We did that Link's Awakening one where we compared the eight bit with the the remake. That was fun.

David Geisler:

What would be a challenge would be to do, like, the very first Zelda game.

Kady Roberts:

That would be interesting.

David Geisler:

Beeps and boops Yeah. And try to really, like, suss out, you know, what the what the idea was behind it. But as far as, like, actual music music, it would be echoes of wisdom.

Kady Roberts:

Oh, yes.

David Geisler:

Would be echoes of wisdom because that music

Kady Roberts:

It's phenomenal. Yeah. Oh, it's so good. Echoes of wisdom is a top for me. I know it would be very similar, but I would love to do Age of Calamity because I feel like

David Geisler:

Yeah. Sure.

Kady Roberts:

They took these themes and a lot of them have similarities, but they kicked it up to like the max of like, they really understood the characters. They had two minutes to do whatever they wanted

David Geisler:

Yeah.

Kady Roberts:

To like represent them. And you also get such a wide array because it's like, okay, you have the great fairies, but how do you write a theme that is for a battle great fairy? Yes. How do you do that? Yeah.

Kady Roberts:

And it's very interesting. Same with like, you can play as Hetsu and you have that twenty second. How do you make that twenty seconds still evoke the character, but it's a two minute and a half song?

David Geisler:

Yeah. Exactly. And I would what we I would love to do a little pre research and to see if it was the same composers. There was a head composer. Was a it was a woman for Breath of the Wild, there were some supporting composers or something like that.

David Geisler:

Yeah. And I know they brought her back for Tears of Kingdom is my understanding if I if I know this correctly. It would be interesting if the same people got hired because even though it was Koei Tecmo Mhmm. Doing Age of Calamity, obviously Nintendo gave them all the assets and there was a Nintendo team working with them. Fine.

David Geisler:

Fine. Fine. To make sure there's some consistent consistency, it would be interesting to see if some of the Breath of the Wild team, maybe that main composer went over, but if some new people got brought in too. Because we would we ever in a million years get the Robbie guitar stuff

Kady Roberts:

Yeah.

David Geisler:

If it wasn't for Koei Tecmo who does lean more in that direction.

Kady Roberts:

Exactly.

David Geisler:

And so we I'd I'd love to see the the the credits, I guess you could say, going into the Age of Calamity episode, and then we could of feel some of that new blood coming in and some of the classic stuff that was written. And or or was it just a completely new team Mhmm. Reworking the themes that were already established? Who knows?

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. I love. David, where can these lovely people find you?

David Geisler:

You can find me at raptor paint on all the things, blue skies and x's and Instagrams and and frankly, everywhere. Honestly, everywhere. So I'm just raptor paint. I've kept it consistent, and that is all. That's all I'll

Kady Roberts:

say.

David Geisler:

Sometimes I pitch another show, but blah blah blah. I've got the other ones going on. You can see them at the bottom of the EZP website.

Kady Roberts:

They're great. Check them out. You can find me on Instagram and TikTok at kdstargazer. It's like the letters KD. I'm so funny.

Kady Roberts:

And also, I am I do a show on Rock ninety five five here in Chicago, that you can pick up on the iHeartRadio app. I do it on the weekends. Sundays fluctuate. Typically, Saturdays, though, I do eleven to four, central time. But, yeah, check me out there.

David Geisler:

Eleven to four. That's a while. That's you're you're doing hours.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. I do I do, like, five hour shows.

David Geisler:

Are you in the booth alone, or do have a couple of other co hosts?

Kady Roberts:

No. Just me.

David Geisler:

Just you? Yeah. Just you talking between the songs and doing the time and temperature and all that stuff. Is that what it's Yeah.

Kady Roberts:

No. It's great.

David Geisler:

I'm gonna tune in.

Kady Roberts:

No. It's super fun. Yeah. You can find another Zelda podcast anywhere. You can find us though on, like, Instagram.

David Geisler:

Anotherzeldapodcast.com is our main hub, of course. Yes. Thank you.

Kady Roberts:

You could see I was drowning. Hey. No.

David Geisler:

It's alright. Another thing that's fun, I talked about another Pokemon podcast at the beginning part of this episode. We're, like, mutually completely redesigning the APP and AZP websites right now. And the most fun about that is I talked about the graphics and how I make these all these graphics on Photoshop and then also give them to APP and both shows use them. But what's kind of fun about this one is that Gallaudetrad and Bex and I are kind of having a conversation back and forth and what we would like to see in an AZP website or an APP website.

David Geisler:

And so we're kind of co designing what the new because we've had the same website for seven years and I love it. I think it's beautiful. It's got a little thumbnails we used to do like the the living world was in the background of the site. It would always be screen video screen grabs from Breath of the Wild. But honestly, Zelda itself as a franchise is moving on a little bit.

David Geisler:

Breath of the Wild is seven years old. We kind of want to find a new aesthetic and a new UI for the site. Yeah. And so that's been really, really fun to find that together with the Pokemon people. And I mean, honestly, we're probably still four months away from really like, you know, dropping the new site.

David Geisler:

But in the meantime, go on over to another zeldapodcast.com where you can find links to all of the episodes from our past seven seasons as well as some blog posts and some other playlists. I've had a lot of fun and I've put I've put Apple Music playlists on our website. There's four of them there. And I've also had a few requests to try my best to duplicate them and put the Spotify version there as well.

Kady Roberts:

I'm so curious. When you say playlists, is this like music that reminds you of the characters or?

David Geisler:

Well, all of them are a little bit different. So they're they're publicly published playlists that I'm doing through Apple Music the same way you can do it on Spotify. They're playlists that I build on my Apple Music, and then you then they literally are in the search engines for people to find. Yeah. And so they're all like, another Zelda podcast presents, and then I title them.

David Geisler:

One is my favorite one is another Zelda podcast presents the wind worker. They're all very dad jokes. And the wind worker is like a lot of Zelda and chill. A lot of like, hey, this is the one you play when you're just kind of working. You need the background ambient music.

David Geisler:

There's another one that I got. Let me see if I can remember. Another Zelda podcast presents. It was something like, oh my gosh. Well, it's basically it's the workout playlist.

David Geisler:

So it's all like the real, like, DJ remix versions of Zelda things like you're on a bike ride or on a run or you're at the gym. I've I've actually heard from people that they actually listen to that one when they're at the gym. And it was something like, Hey, Hero, Workout. It was like four different Zelda titles all mixed together. You know?

David Geisler:

Workout, like, the end of the time of the Yeah. Whatever. And so that's fun. And then there was another one. There's a jazz one.

David Geisler:

I have a jazz player. So I specifically find musicians who do jazz covers of Zelda songs. And that one's called something like a classy Zelda party or something like that. And so that's fun to do. That's just a silly little thing on the side, and I'm always updating them.

David Geisler:

So if you subscribe to them on Apple Music, you'll get those updates as well. And I I'm less active on Spotify, but I have had some requests. I also did playlists for every season of Returning Student, and I've also had requests to have those go over to Spotify. So I just got to get you can't really duplicate it. You got to literally one to one go, okay, that's

Kady Roberts:

going say don't have Apple Music. I do have Spotify. I tend to make podcast or podcasts. I tend to make playlists for the different Zelda games I'm playing. Yes.

Kady Roberts:

So I have one that I listened to when I was playing Ocarina of Time a lot and it helped me go through the game a lot.

David Geisler:

You did something a few well, almost a month ago now, maybe two, that I thought was awesome. I shared it with Michelle when you were building your D and D character.

Kady Roberts:

Oh, you act did you actually

David Geisler:

check

Kady Roberts:

out? 100%. Oh, 100%.

David Geisler:

And you were like you were like, yeah. Okay. I've designed my character. Here's backstory, and I built this playlist about her.

Kady Roberts:

I do that with all of my characters I create.

David Geisler:

Yeah. I make playlist because it's I I make playlists for my podcast, like show notes, honestly. Yeah. It's weird. I almost remember history through the different playlists I

Kady Roberts:

made. No. I do it with games I play, with characters I enjoy, characters I create. I think it's a fun way to evoke emotions and just memory through music.

David Geisler:

To to that point as well, I've I make playlists for any character I play, you know, you know, the theatrical performance or something.

Kady Roberts:

Nice.

David Geisler:

Anyways, anyways. So that's fine. Those are those are over on the Zelda podcast website as well, another zeldapodcast.com and the things.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. You can find us on everything. Alright. Thank you so much.

David Geisler:

Yes. Feel free to please check us out as well. We've got a lot of short form content coming out now over on Instagram and YouTube and TikTok. Yippee. Where you can literally see us make these shows.

David Geisler:

Alright. Cool.

Kady Roberts:

Yeah. Awesome. Thank you so much for listening. Have a great and magical day to everyone out there, and stay frosty because it's hot out there.

David Geisler:

Okay. Bye.