Lunch with the Clydesdale - Time to Catch Up!

Every Work Day we take a breath and a step back from all the busyness to hang out and talk about the world of Sports and Entertainment and more specifically the world of CrossFit.  Today we recap the MetFix Talk, we talk about the Fikowski appearance on Rich's Podcast.  The Champ is Back!  What was going on at Ohio State!  Watched the first episode of the Bear.  and I will clarify team with WFP (Maybe).

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We cover the sport of CrossFit from all angles. We talk with athletes, coaches and celebrities that compete and surround in the sport of CrossFit at all levels. We also bring you Breaking News, Human Interest Stories and report on the Methodology of CrossFit. We also use the methodology to make ourselves the fittest we can be.

what's going on everybody

time to meet in the break

room it's lunch time with

clydesdale what is going on

train to live jody lynn

meredith good to see you

all in the chat already I'm

so glad to be back to our

regularly scheduled program

um we're going to talk

about that in a second uh

but train to live

uh says oh sorry my mouse

ran out of juice today I

just want to thank scott I

started watching shrinking

it is so good it is so good

so good and they're coming

back for another season I

cannot wait for that uh and

I think they're bringing in

I read somewhere they're

bringing in like another

big name star for the next

season uh should be interesting

But last night, The Bear came back.

Been a big fan of that show.

Was not a fan of season three.

But season four started up last night.

So went back and rewatched

the last episode of season three.

So I could just remember

kind of everything that happened.

Watched the first episode of season four.

From the beginning of the show,

they do this thing where

Karm rubs his chest.

And it's a way of

apologizing without having

to say it to people in the kitchen.

And there's a moment where

him and Sid are in the kitchen.

He makes that move.

And I truly feel it's the

creators of the show

apologizing for last season.

because they talk about how

they can't deal with the chaos.

And last season,

season three was all chaos.

And it was almost like an

apology to the fans and the

viewers saying, we're sorry,

we're going to get back to

what it is we do best.

And I thought the first

episode was awesome and

back to season one, season two level.

So excited to see the rest of the season.

All ten episodes are

available now on Hulu.

uh through fx and my wife

and I have made a conscious

decision not to just super

binge it but to kind of

savor this one because this

could be the last season um

so we're just we're gonna

try to take it slow uh

season three we did in like

two days and then it's all

over and you've got nothing

to watch nothing to talk

about so we're gonna try to

take this one a little bit slow

But glad you like Shrinking.

I'm super excited for the next season.

I think it's one of the best

shows that's come out in a long time.

It's funny.

It's endearing.

It's got all the emotions in one big show.

So glad you like that.

Train to live.

Corey, Jay Birch, thanks for joining.

Good to see you guys.

Jay Birch got all trimmed up this week.

looking like a sexy uh

retired teacher now so

there's that allergies are

bad here today I'm doing

laundry so it might be from

that because all my dog's

hair gets on everything so

when I clean the lynch trap every time

I have to like breathe in

all the dog hair and the dander.

And I'm allergic to that as

well as all the external stuff.

So just trying to make it through the day.

So yesterday we had Pete Shawn.

We talked to Metfix.

Jody made it abundantly

clear that she would rather

have a regular lunch show than Pete Shaw.

But I thought it was

important to kind of

understand what Metfix was.

And then after the fact,

I'm learning all this stuff about how

People believe that Greg

isn't really as involved in

MedFix as we thought.

or maybe as I thought,

and that he's more involved

with broken science than he

is with medfix.

And if that's the case,

then a lot of the basis of

what it's about makes less sense to me.

And I kind of wish I would

have known that going in.

I would have phrased the

questions differently.

I know early on I let him,

I let Pete talk about

longer periods of time and I

thought I thought he got

more technical the longer I

gave him to talk so I tried

to shorten it down as the

interview went on and ask

more questions and kind of

keep him more layman's

terms general if I could uh

but it but whenever you're

talking about the science

of nutrition and the

details of it it gets it

gets a little heady and um

And so I think it got better

as the interview went on for sure.

But I'm not,

I hope you guys got something out of it.

I surely did.

I find that stuff fascinating.

I would really like to know

I would really like to know

Greg's opinion on the major

factor of the flexible

metabolic conditions.

Meaning like,

does your body use fat or

does your body use carbs to

burn energy back and forth?

Because that seems to be

controversial with...

seminar staff members and

what's happening with MedFix.

And I'd like to understand

that a little bit more.

But I now have a good

relationship with Pete.

Maybe we can have him on one

more time and I can ask

that question or ask other

questions that you guys might have.

uh, trained to live.

I'm interested if they want

elite athletes to apply

their model to their own

nutrition since they

brought up Jason Hopper as a comparison.

They don't.

Um,

I mean, Pete is very aware that athletes,

I think what they don't

like is that athletes are

using refined sugar,

extra sugars to sustain

themselves through a

weekend instead of just the

normal sugar that's in a

potato or pasta or whatever.

The gummy bear example is

what he kept coming up with.

Um,

that I don't think he even thinks the

lead athlete should be doing that.

But I think he,

at this point with Jason

Hopper quote was that there

are a lot of people who go

to CrossFit and now want to

be like Jason Hopper.

And it's pulling people away

from what a normal you and me non-athlete,

non-elite athlete, um,

would do for their

nutrition throughout the day.

I feel like he made it seem

like all CrossFitters look

to elite athletes as an

example for their own nutrition.

And I don't think that's

true most of the time.

And I tried to make that point.

That I started CrossFit in

two thousand eleven.

I've never looked to an

elite athlete and what they

eat and thought that's what

I should be doing.

Never.

Bag of candy is easy, I guess.

No meal prep.

Yeah.

Easy to pack.

Easy to.

But he used examples of

walking into gyms as a

seminar staff member and

seeing like jars of gummy

bears on the counter and

felt that that was a bad example.

Donuts, things like that.

Larry Young,

I feel like the more I consume,

it all boils down to the same concepts.

I've looked for some magic, like lifting.

I've done one working set

since my college b-ball days.

I get strong when I'm consistent.

Corey says,

it's difficult to eat a baked

potato after competition workout.

And trying to live, good point, Corey.

It's all about replacing

glycogen with all that fiber,

either pre-post-workout or competition.

Without all that fiber.

Yeah, when I was competing,

I couldn't eat at all.

Even like in my teenage swimming days,

I could not keep the food down.

So I think you have to do

what you have to do.

And part of their philosophy

is that everything is a work in progress.

As long as you're working

toward what it should be,

then you're on the right track.

It doesn't have to be

perfection from the start.

If you read through their

stuff on their website and...

And I think with an athlete,

you have to do what works for you.

If you can't eat a baked potato,

you need something to give you energy.

You have to do something.

So, yeah.

But I'm glad it came on.

I'm glad we got to talk about it.

I've kind of...

avoided nutrition talk for a

while just because of some

things that I've been going

on that have been going on

in my life and trying to

figure things out myself.

But maybe I need to get more

into it again.

And try to understand for myself better.

And maybe talk about the

struggles I've been having.

But I need to be in the

right headspace to do that.

So maybe we'll do that on future shows.

I eat like a monk seven days a week.

Comp days are a whole other

thing in and of themselves.

Meredith Jones,

when you have another event coming up,

wouldn't liquid nutrition

protein shake be the way to

go versus candy?

Seems hard on the stomach.

See, I think it depends.

Like if you're doing a

summer event when it's, um,

To me,

it feels like it's curdling in my

stomach.

So my wife would make these oatmeal,

peanut butter, and honey Powerballs,

she would call them.

And that's what would get me

through a competition.

I would eat a couple of

those between events.

It felt like I was doing

better than eating gummy bears,

but still getting some calories,

some fat back into my

system without it upsetting

my stomach and wanting to

puke in the middle of a burpee.

But I'm just a – I was just

a ham and egger,

as they say in the boxing business,

doing local comp.

Jay Burch,

are you still working with Cheryl?

I've not been working with Cheryl.

And –

I'm going to keep that to

myself for now because I

have to do some things

behind the scenes with that

before I talk anymore.

But none of this was about Cheryl,

just so you know.

This was all about me, just so you know.

So, yeah.

Jeremy Eats World.

Curious what you mean by

being in the right

headspace to talk about...

It's not about talking about my diet,

Jeremy.

It's talking about what got

me in a place where I

needed just to try some different things.

So it's not about the diet itself.

It's about the other things

around it that I just

needed to take a step back.

So...

holly says applesauce or

baby food pouches yeah if

you can handle those things

um so there is that um we also got a

Are you still working out at

home or at the gym?

So I was working out at the

gym until just about a week ago.

And then my wife and I sat down.

She is now recovered from

her knee surgery.

She wants to do workouts.

So we're working out in the

garage gym together for at

least the summer, early fall.

And what we're going to do

is take the money that I

was spending for the gym

and upgrading some equipment in my gym.

So I have it in my garage for the summer.

And then after the early fall,

I'm going to go back to the gym.

And

The reason,

one of the reasons I left

players like a week ago was

one for my wife to work out with her.

The other thing is because of this show,

I switched to working out

in the evenings and I'd

lost a lot of the community feel.

So I've got to figure out,

I may go to Rudy burgers gym,

which is about the same

distance the other side.

Um, cause they work out in the evening and,

um, do that.

Um,

but right now we're just

using the money I would use

for monthly to upgrade.

I'm going to put a rower in

my garage and I'm going to get some,

some boxes and some things

to upgrade my gym at home.

So yes to Rudy and on that.

Yeah.

And the owners of the gym, uh,

Mike and Caitlin are awesome as well.

And it's a lot smaller, too.

It's a lot more intimate.

It's a lot more community-friendly,

especially in the evenings.

So that's kind of the plan right now.

So just to hit some news,

because I do have an

appointment this afternoon, and that is,

if you didn't see,

we have some breaking news.

Water is wet, the sky is blue, and T.A.

Claire Toomey is going to

the CrossFit Games.

Those were the breaking

pieces of news yesterday.

Tia is back.

I don't think any of us are

surprised at this point.

I think she left that door open by the,

her wording.

I think Amanda Hari put it

beautifully when she

pointed out that she did

not say she was retiring

and she's coming back for number eight.

I joked with Carolyn

yesterday that it had to be

Carolyn's marketing plan of

the eight on its side for

the to me to show the

infinity sign that she is

forever the goat.

Um,

So she's coming back.

Andrew Sten, different topic.

Heard on Boys Interrupted

that Christy Arma moved to Boise.

Honestly, Andrew, since she sold the gym,

she's not in the gym as

much as she used to be.

I am betting they probably

bought a house out there

and they have a house here

in Westerville because I've

seen them do workouts on their Instagram,

on their YouTube,

in the garage gym here in Columbus.

And I know they're always on the road,

traveling outdoors, doing mountain things,

hiking, all that kind of stuff.

So maybe they have a place in both spots.

And I know that her and Justin are close.

They have the same agent.

Justin used to drop into

players all the time when

he was here for the Arnold.

So I know that they're tight

and I don't know exactly.

I, you know,

I haven't talked to them and

probably gosh, since they sold the gym,

just saw him in passing.

So also yesterday, Brent was on Rich.

We were looking forward to that.

And they made it seem like

Angelo was really going to

press Brent on the demands.

I don't think it ever got to

that pressing.

I do think that he did

address them and he made

the comment that no matter

what they put out as PFAA,

they were going to be

criticized for what that was.

And I disagree with that.

I think that if you would

have gotten your contingent

of athletes together and

and talked it through and

came up with a group

decision as a large group

and what that message

should be and then made that message,

then I think it would have

went over better.

But I think what happened is

you thought you had the

backing of the athletes.

You acted like you had the

backing of the athletes.

You made a determination

with eight of you and then

it didn't fly and you had

nothing to back that.

I wasn't critical of what

you said if you had reasons behind it.

I was critical of how you

did it and how you were

trying to represent the

entire athlete base with

just a handful of you.

I still think you're laying

blame possibly in the wrong direction,

but the world may never

know because nobody's

letting us know what happened there.

The other thing that he did

say on there that I do like

is they're coming up with

the standard movement database.

As someone who covers the sport,

trying to guess what

standard different

movements are at a

competition when you're

there live and you haven't seen...

you haven't seen the athlete

briefing and you're trying

to make definitive

statements whether a guy

was moving correctly or

incorrectly and you have no

clue is so freaking hard

and so frustrating when

you're there um when you're

there in person having a

movement standard book that

everybody could follow and

if you know they're

following that book for

that competition uh makes

perfect sense to me

And I like that at first

they're not mandating it or

trying to get it mandated,

but just making it available to use.

And you can just copy and

paste it to explain the

movement standard without

having to rewrite it for

every competition.

I think it will grab hold if

it's available to

competitions to do that.

and it's already been vetted

and tried and makes it much

easier for them,

I think that is a step in

the right direction.

And that's a step to help

them get some support again

after what happened this last fall.

I understand the AFJ has

been working with the PFAA.

on movement standards for over a year,

it's a lot of work.

I'm sure that it is.

But even if it starts small

and it grows and we get

more and more movements

into that database as we move along,

I think that is fine.

I think it's fine if you

just add the ten most

popular movements in a book

to start and then you add

as you go and then it keeps

getting bigger and bigger.

I think it's fine.

it doesn't have to be a

completed project for it to

be out there for everybody

to use back on the demands

uh doug reed that's a

hundred percent projection

from brent he was trying to

steel man his argument

position I agree train to

live asks the question if I

were a betting man

I would bet that Alex takes the invite,

but I do not have any

firsthand knowledge as to

whether she will or not.

I did hear something from

Jake that he believes she's

taking the invite.

He is her husband.

He knows her better than anybody.

But I also know that Justin

Kotler feels like she has a long, great,

future ahead of her and

doesn't want her doing

anything that could harm

that and I think that is

that is the crucial piece

that we don't know I think

it's going to be getting

with doctors right before

that decision has to be

made and having that

decision made then um

Other than that,

I thought the Brent thing

was somewhat entertaining,

but I didn't really get a

lot out of it other than

the movement standards.

And I don't think there was

a lot of pressing on the demands.

I wish they would have taken

it a step further and asked

what support he had when

they put that out there.

who actually was in the

decision-making process of

that demand letter.

Those are the things I'd

like to know from them.

They want transparency on the other side.

We didn't get very much

transparency from them and

how that demand was created.

So one last thing I'm going

to talk about and

Doug and Judy Reed, if you're in here,

you may want to close yours.

I watched the surviving Ohio

state documentary on, on max.

That was one of the most

troubling documentaries

I've ever watched in my life.

It is about a doctor who was

the team doctor for several

sports at Ohio state.

And ended up sexually

abusing and raping hundreds

of male victims at Ohio State.

And this happened from the

late eighties through the mid nineties.

Um,

the doctor actually ended up

dying in the mid two

thousands in twenty sixteen

or twenty seventeen when

the Larry Nassar incident

was happening at Michigan State.

Some of these athletes and

victims saw what was

happening with these young

ladies and realized that

what had happened to them

was sexual abuse and they

started to come forward and

then it started to just

unravel in droves.

Yes, D. Reed.

It's Dr. Richard Strauss.

I was trying to remember the

name as I was talking.

And so it got uncovered much

after the fact.

And he would actually target

Midwestern boys who

wouldn't even know what a

real exam was that he would

be giving and made them

feel like this was a normal

exam that they should be receiving.

And the boys didn't know any better.

And they interview them and

they talk about how they

weren't sure if this was

really abuse at the time.

And Ohio State made some

really bad missteps along

the way when complaints

came forward from the fencing coach.

He was then promoted to the

normal hospital.

where the students go to get treated.

And so then it became not

just athletes that were victims.

It became regular students

that started to become victims.

I think it was in two thousand eighteen.

Ohio State finished an

investigation where they

came down that one hundred

and seventy four victims

were raped by this man and

estimated over eight

thousand students were sexually abused.

Those numbers are

astronomical compared to the other

cases in the Big Ten alone.

We had the Jerry Sandusky

case at Penn State.

We had the Larry Nassar case

at Michigan State.

Both of those universities

admitted wrongdoing and

settled with the victims.

Penn State's victims

received one point five

million per victim.

The Michigan State victims

received one point two five

million per victim.

Ohio State has not settled,

has not admitted guilt,

and has only offered two

hundred and fifty thousand per victim.

It made my stomach flip so bad.

I live here in Columbus.

I live fifteen minutes from

Ohio State University.

The fact that that

university and how big it

is and how prominent it is

in this state and how much

money it makes year over

year in their sports

department is dragging this

out for those victims is reprehensible.

uh train to live it's on

it's on max it's uh you

know the hbo max app that

you can you can stream on

uh and it's called surviving ohio state

I hope and pray to God that

Ohio State comes to their

senses and settles with

these victims so they're

not dragged through all

this year over year over year.

Ohio State has taken this

all the way to the Supreme Court.

The district court,

they wanted to get it

thrown out because of

statute of limitations.

And the courts found that

because Ohio State hid what had happened,

They were part of the reason

why it took so long for it

to come out because they

hid the fact that it was happening.

So it got thrown out by the

courts and the Supreme

Court refused to hear it

because of that and said

that the statute of

limitations is not a factor

here because they hid it for so long.

And so this has started in

two thousand sixteen or two

thousand twenty five.

And these victims have been

drug through the mud through all of this.

I hope that Ohio State comes to its senses,

settle these suits,

and these men can move on

with their lives.

Many of them got their

scholarships revoked if

they threatened to say anything.

Some of them tried to say something,

got their scholarships revoked,

couldn't go to school anymore.

it is appalling what happens.

It's about a two-hour documentary.

It is very well done.

It has all the facts explained out,

but what the hell happened

is just mind-boggling.

You are correct, Jody.

So many young men must have been affected.

The OSU athletic department

has two hundred fifty four

point nine million in revenue,

but an operational budget

of two hundred ninety two

point seven million.

Unsure where all the money goes.

Yeah,

there are money facts that are

brought up at the end of

the documentary that I

don't want to misquote,

so that's why I'm not using them.

But the revenue from the

athletic departments,

and I don't remember the year timeframe,

is in the billions.

I'm a Penn State fan.

I've been to Michigan State.

Ohio State is making more

money than those two universities,

and they found a way to pay

their victims in the

millions what they deserve

for what they went through.

So if Ohio State's going to

try to claim poor now, give me a break.

Uh, D Reed says, wait, you like PSU?

Yes, Doug.

I, I grew up in Pennsylvania.

Um, my uncle was a graduate of Penn state,

took me to a bunch of games

when I was a kid.

So I just became a Penn

state fan and I've been

that my whole life through

thick and thin through all the jokes.

through all the ridicule

because of the Jerry Sandusky situation,

I admit what happened there

was just as bad,

needed to be dealt with just as much.

But yeah.

Probably be broke after the

retro NIL payments.

Yeah,

I'm guessing though that maybe the

victims deserve the money

before the NIL deals since

Ohio State had the highest

paid team in college

football last year and they

won the national championship.

So there you go.

Pay money to make money.

I'm going to leave with this

on a little brighter note.

I did see on GetUp this

morning that the NCAA has

made a deal with, I think,

Venmo and PayPal,

where all NIL payments have

to be done through those

two apps so that the money

can be tracked much more

than just like cash

payments or check payments.

But they're going to have to

make all their payments

through those two apps to

the athletes for NIL.

And I found that like an

interesting switch in what

college sports are doing

with that so that it can be

tracked electronically how

much is going to who and where and when.

I mean,

there's no rules around it right now,

so they can do whatever the

hell they want.

But I do like the fact that

at least it's being tracked somewhere.

And so when they do put some

rules in place,

it might be able to be

tracked a lot better.

So Alito, super late to the game,

just popped in to say hi.

Alito, you showed up for the bad part.

So go back to the beginning

if you want to listen to anything.

That was the fun part.

But with that, guys, we'll call it a day.

I have an appointment this

afternoon that I have to get to.

So I'm going to deal with that.

And then I'll be back

tomorrow for lunch with the

Clydesdale on a Friday.

And yeah, train to live.

I got to run.

But Scott,

thank you for always doing your

lunch shows.

I'm recovering from surgery.

It's been the best part of my day.

Awesome.

We love having you here.

Ciao.

All right, guys.

You knuckleheads, get back to work.

I'll see you all tomorrow on

Lunch with the Clydesdale.

Bye, guys.