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Al & Val did a body swap and things went haywire! Listen to what happened when we watched The Swap!
The Swap (October 7, 2016)
Directed by Jaime Eliezer Karas (Frank TV, stand up specials, Teachers, Acapulco), Ron Oliver (Are you Afraid of the Dark, Goosebumps, Hallmark movies)
Written by Charlie Shahnaian (2nd to last credit), Shari Simpson (same last credit as Charlie Shahnaian - Color My World with Love)
Starring:
Peyton List as Ellie O'Brien (27 Dresses, Diary of a Wimpy Kid, Jessie, Bunk’d, Cobra Kai, School Spirits)
Jacob Bertrand as Jack Malloy (Rise of the Guardians, Marvin Marvin, Bubble Guppies, Kirby Buckets, Batwheels, Cobra Kai)
Darrin Rose as Coach Malloy (Mr. D, Home Sweet Rome)
Claire Rankin as Summer (character actor - Son of a Critch)
Callan Potter as Gunner (The Other Kingdom, Murdoch Mysteries)
Jesse Bostick as Stryker (Camp Rock 2, Frenemies)
Eliana Jones as Aspen Bishop (The Stanley Dynamic, Prom Night)
Kiana Madeira as Sassy Gaines (Really Me, Bad Hair Day, Trinkets, Fear Street, My Adventures with Superman)
Kolton Stewart as Owen (Some Assembly Required, Locke & Key, The Next Step, Unicorn Academy)
James Godfrey as Porter Gibbs (Zombies franchise)
Devyn Nekoda as Mackenzie Wick (Backstage, Utopia Falls, Sneakerella, Scream VI)
Linda Kash as Nurse Helen (character actor - Max Glick, Minor Adjustments, Angela Anaconda, Quads!, Doc, Man of the Year, Fugget About It, Numb Chucks)
Synopsis: Comic chaos ensues when a text causes gymnast Ellie, who's in an important contest, to swap bodies with hockey player brother Jake who's vying for a varsity spot.
Fun Facts: Based on a novel
Next Movie: Descendents 2
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Girls, it's time to put your big girl leotards on because the rumors, they're true.
Speaker 2:True rumors.
Speaker 1:The school is making budget cuts and is eliminating one of the sports teams. So it's between the badminton team, gross, I know, ew, and us. So if we don't win big on Sunday against Silverleaf High, and I mean big, they are going to demote us to a club. A club? That's what I said.
Speaker 2:Like chess or thespians? For serious, this is tragical. And we're talking about
Speaker 1:Rhythmics and Japsticks.
Speaker 2:Hey, Val.
Speaker 1:Hey,
Speaker 2:Elle. Welcome to D Commentaries.
Speaker 1:Thank you. Welcome to you and welcome to our listeners. Today, we're talking about the swap. The
Speaker 2:swap. It was giving a little Mario, so I had to switch it up.
Speaker 1:I love
Speaker 2:Thank you. That's actually the theme song for the swap. Wow. Mhmm. It's not mega trainers me too.
Speaker 1:I was gonna say I was gonna say they started with an actual pop song.
Speaker 2:Mhmm. Was a that
Speaker 1:was a surprise. I know. And it was, like, a true cold open. Like, we haven't seen one of those in a while.
Speaker 2:No. Because we get so many narrators.
Speaker 1:Yes. That's true. No narrator on this one. Yeah. The text the text messages Which I love.
Speaker 1:Indicators. Yeah. I honestly think the mechanic worked. I I think that they we'll we'll talk we'll talk we'll about it. Yeah.
Speaker 1:We'll
Speaker 2:get I'm
Speaker 1:sorry. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah.
Speaker 1:Woah.
Speaker 2:We're getting
Speaker 1:out of ourselves. We're getting over our skis. We're we're in over our
Speaker 2:I don't
Speaker 1:rhythmic rhythmic balls. Our our skates. We're over our skates. Oh, so true. Our hockey skates.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Because this is also about hockey. It is. And in the swap, which came out 10/07/2016 Where was I 10/07/2016?
Speaker 2:I was living back at home.
Speaker 1:Post
Speaker 2:college, post d world.
Speaker 1:10/07/2016, I had quit my job, and I was just I had just enrolled in grad school. I was going to start grad school that January. Wow. Yeah. I had just done a summer full of improv intensives.
Speaker 2:Wait. Is that when we We would have met that month.
Speaker 1:Around that time. Because we met before that.
Speaker 2:But we got on a team together in October 2016, because then the next year was 2017 when I got on Ensemble.
Speaker 1:Oh, well, there you go. Then, yes, you're
Speaker 2:And we were only on a team together for a year.
Speaker 1:That's true.
Speaker 2:And Val will say it should have been also on Ensemble, but then she got on there a couple years later. The drama is done, but we hold grudges in this home.
Speaker 1:But, yeah, we would have met
Speaker 2:in, like, September or October.
Speaker 1:Woah.
Speaker 2:Well Oh my god. And now we're here.
Speaker 1:Now we're here talking about The Swap.
Speaker 2:Wowie Zowie.
Speaker 1:We had no awareness of this movie, or at least I didn't. No. The Swap was directed by, two people, Jamie Eliazer Karras. Quite a name. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Some notables on him. I think it's a him. Frank TV, a bunch of stand up specials that seems to be kind of his, like, main gig. And, like, big names like Bill Burr, Jim Gaffigan. Woah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Like, tons of people. And then a couple other shows, Teachers and Acapulco. Oh. And then the other director is Ron Oliver, who is more in the TV movie slash kid arena with some notables being Are You Afraid of the Dark?
Speaker 1:Oh. Goosebumps. Oh. And a whole bunch of Hallmark movies. Oh.
Speaker 1:Mhmm. So kind of
Speaker 2:work in different big o's from Al.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. So it very two very different backgrounds, and I think that that's cool. Like, I like that they have that mix. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:It was written by a a team because they both had similar credits, Charlie Shanayan and Sherry Simpson. For Charlie, this was his second to last credit. And, I think it was Sherry's third to last credit, but their their last credit was the same, which was called color my world with love. They have a pretty each have a pretty sparse, you know, like, less than 10 credits total of writing. And then the cast is as follows.
Speaker 1:Peyton List played Ellie O'Brien. Peyton her her cred is from Jesse and Bunk'd, but she started in 27 Dresses, Diary of a Wimpy Kidge, and more recently, she's been in Cobra Kai and School Spirits.
Speaker 2:And as someone who watches School Spirits, that show rocks.
Speaker 1:Okay. Cool.
Speaker 2:School It was on a network, and then it was dropped and picked up by another one. I think it was, like, on Peacock or something, and then went to Netflix or Netflix to Peacock, like something like that. And it's so the between season one and two were like a little bit longer than normal. But I love that show. It's so good.
Speaker 1:Nice. And then Jacob Bertrand played Jack Malloy. He does a lot of voice acting. He was he was in Rise of the Guardians, Marvin Marvin, Bubble Guppies, Kirby Buckets, Batwheels, and then he was also or is also in Cobra Kai.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. I didn't know either of them were in Cobra Kai as someone who doesn't watch Cobra Kai but is chronically online.
Speaker 1:Yeah. They both are. Darren Rose played Coach Malloy, Jack's dad. He is, I think, a character actor, not like a super prolific one, but he a couple notables for him were mister d and home sweet Rome. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:Claire Rankin played Summer, who was Ellie's mom. She's also a character actor. The only thing that she was in for a long period of time was something called son of a critch, which I thought was very funny.
Speaker 2:That is funny.
Speaker 1:I'm pretty sure they filmed this in Canada, so it's conceivable that a lot of their two credits were a lot of Canadian shows that
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I've never heard of. Callan Potter played Gunner, one of the older brothers of Jack. A couple of his notables, The Other Kingdom and Murdock Mysteries.
Speaker 2:Woo hoo. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:Jesse Bostick played the other brother, Stryker. He was actually in Camp Rock two and Frenemies.
Speaker 2:Wow. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:Eliana Jones played Aspen Bishop. She a couple of notables for her, the Stanley Dynamic and Prom Night. Kiana Madeira played Sassy Gaines. Some notables for her, Really Me, Bad Hair Day. I think she played the friend that we briefly saw a couple times in that movie.
Speaker 1:Trinkets, Fear Street, and My Adventures with Superman. So she's working.
Speaker 2:Cool. Also, it looks like she's gonna be on the Malcolm in the Middle, revival.
Speaker 1:Oh, cool. Nice. Mhmm. Colton Stewart played Owen, who I believe is Jack's best buddy. He some notables for him, Some Assembly Required, Lock and Key, The Next Step, and Unicorn Academy.
Speaker 1:James Godfrey, my favorite person in this movie, played Porter Gibbs.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh.
Speaker 1:He's in the zombies movies
Speaker 2:Oh, cool.
Speaker 1:That were upcoming. Mhmm. Thank thank goodness because I would miss him. Yeah. Devin Nakota played Mackenzie Wick, who's the, like, nice girl.
Speaker 1:And she was in backstage, Utopia Falls, Sneakerella, which I believe was the first Disney plus original movie Oh. And scream six. Oh. And then, Linda Cash played nurse Helen, who is only briefly in this movie, but made a big impact. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And she is a pretty prolific character actor. Some notables for her, Max Glick, minor adjustments, Angela Anaconda, quads, doc, man of the year, forget about it, and num chucks. Nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah. That's a
Speaker 1:good chunk. Yeah. She's been acting since 1986.
Speaker 2:Wow. Me too.
Speaker 1:Me too, actually. Mhmm. That is when I was born. Oh, the synopsis is as follows. God.
Speaker 1:Comic chaos ensues when a text causes gymnast Ellie, who is in an important contest, to swap bodies with hockey player brother Jake, not her brother, who's vying for a varsity spot. That is there's
Speaker 2:He is a brother to someone, but not her. Like, literally AI wrote that.
Speaker 1:That just makes no sense. What? Also, don't tell people how to feel. Like, don't tell them it's comic chaos. Just say chaos.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Anyway It's
Speaker 2:like in explaining an improv game, and then you're like, you'll see. You'll love it. And it's like, okay. Now let's find out.
Speaker 1:Yep. And the fun fact of this one is it's based on a book.
Speaker 2:No way. Mhmm. I did not catch that in opening credits.
Speaker 1:Yep. By the same name, which is also kind of interesting because I definitely thought it was just a, like, a Freaky Friday. Like Yeah. Just straight up, you know, take on Freaky Friday. But maybe that is where that came from too.
Speaker 1:Like, that idea for the novel came from.
Speaker 2:But, Val, these people are different
Speaker 1:genders. Right. Which is challenging. I think they handled it pretty well. We'll talk about
Speaker 2:that
Speaker 1:more I agree in a too. But, yes, you're right. That is the major difference here. But with that, the business is done. Wow.
Speaker 1:Shut the briefcase. Brief briefcase
Speaker 2:shut. Laptop closed. Bye, Val.
Speaker 1:Bye. Signing off for the day. Okay. Al, I would love to hear about your first impressions of this movie.
Speaker 2:Thanks, Val. I feel like you always can tell when I do or do not like a movie right away, and I feel like I've been really trying to not give it away today, but that probably means you picked up on the fact that I did like this movie. I was genuinely shocked. I went into this really expecting not to like it. I think there are a couple lines and things that wouldn't really hold up today, but they are You know, in 2016, we were doing better, and I think we continue to do better, but I think overall this was really well cast.
Speaker 2:It was so funny. The adults were incredible. I love Peyton List. I do think that I've seen her in a couple of things now, because she was also just in a movie called Girl Haunts Boy, which I watched. And I think that she talks differently in this movie.
Speaker 2:And I don't know if through her career, she's kind of Austin butlering where she's like picking up a different kind of accent or something. I originally was like, maybe she's talking in the lower register because she's
Speaker 1:That's what I thought
Speaker 2:because she's being But then once they switched back, she kept it, so I wasn't sure. Spoiler alert. They swap. And that's what it's called, and we already heard the synopsis. But I really do enjoy her a lot.
Speaker 2:I think she's very talented. I liked that they didn't end up I'm spoiling it. I don't care. I liked that they didn't end up romantic. Yes, I agree completely.
Speaker 2:It wasn't them to like, it was them to figure it out. And, yeah, I really overall enjoyed this movie more than I thought. And you can tell how much I like the movie by how much I'm on my phone, and I wasn't really on my phone a whole lot this movie. So I didn't rank I'm it gonna give it a six and a half.
Speaker 1:Nice. Solid. Yeah. Mhmm.
Speaker 2:Val, what did you think of this movie?
Speaker 1:Yeah. I kind of had a similar experience. I went into this, and I even at the outset, I really was not enjoying it. Like, the like, the cold open that we did, like, I was the girls, the way they were talking, it was, like, very a lot. And, like, I was worried that that was kind of what this movie was gonna be like the entire time, and it wasn't.
Speaker 1:So it pleasantly surprised me over the course of the movie. I think that it absolutely benefited from great acting. Like, top to bottom, I think that this was very well acted, and that made a huge difference. Yeah. Because the kids kind of there's a lot of, like, kinda tough subject matter in here.
Speaker 1:Like, both
Speaker 2:Which I think why it's better because you look back at the movies that were our age coming out, they had tougher subject matter, and it made the movie better.
Speaker 1:Right. And they didn't shy away from it, and they addressed it head on, which I really appreciated. And the kids like, the actors in this movie handled it really well. Yeah. And, you know, like, there's a lot that can go wrong when you have a teenage boy playing a teenage girl and a teenage girl playing a teenage boy.
Speaker 1:And I think that both of them and this is also a credit to the directors for telling you know, helping them through this. But, like, they didn't overdo it. Right? They just kinda it really genuinely felt like it was just, like, a little off. Right?
Speaker 1:Like, was just it wasn't like this big caricature. It was just a different person in their body.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And despite that, they did address a lot of, like, gender stuff, you know, stereotypes and all of these things. But again, like, in a really, like, earnest, like, straight on kind of way. And I just I don't know. I just thought it was great. And, like, all even all the little side characters, like, they really did their jobs.
Speaker 1:Like, whether they were meant to be the villain or whether they were meant to, like, be a friend or just an ear or silly or whatever it was that their job was, they did it really, really well in this movie. And and that's, like, I think the the dynamics, like, we're what meaning, like, you know, we'd go from, like, kind of a serious scene, and then, like, there'd be something funny. And it didn't feel like it was undermining anything. It just felt like a natural kind of, like, movement through the story. And, yeah, it was it was great.
Speaker 1:I I really ended up enjoying it. And literally, the third note that I wrote was I can already tell I hate this movie, and then I didn't hate this movie.
Speaker 2:Good. I'm good.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, I'm I'm very happy to say that I enjoyed this.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I think and I mean, to your point, it's still why I gave it a six where, like, it's better than the average movie
Speaker 1:you've watching. Especially lately.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And, like, there are still some questionable writing and choices and things, but, like, overall, it definitely picks up and gets better. We'll talk about it further, but the Mean Girls was really struggling with them because they were just so mean. I'm like, You guys, you're writing this really, really harsh, which they ended up pulling it in a really good direction. But and I think a mature direction as well.
Speaker 2:Yes. But, yeah, I mean, there were just a couple of things that didn't make it like, you know, a seven, nine. Nothing will be a history musical too. So
Speaker 1:No. Of course.
Speaker 2:Of course.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I I wrote that at one point. I was like, why are these girls so mean? Like, I it didn't feel necessary, but it ends up kind of making sense in the end.
Speaker 2:So Yeah. It is what it is.
Speaker 1:Mhmm. Amazing. Al? Yeah. Any favorite quotes or moments?
Speaker 2:Yeah. I loved the idea of a camp called Fashionista Glam Camp. What on earth? I just it's like Valve, were you around during Libby Lou? No.
Speaker 2:Okay. So for anyone who wasn't around during Libby Lou, because I feel like it's just my generation, like Valve's a little too old and any Gen Zs listening or, like, don't know what that is either, It was a store in the mall that's basically, like, take all of Claire's, but it's all makeup and hair, and you could, go to Libby Lou and have, like, your birthday party, and then you would, like, put on a performance and dress up and, like, all that stuff.
Speaker 1:You told me about this before in a previous episode.
Speaker 2:Okay. Cool. So fashionista glam camp, I feel like it's just a week at Libby Lou. It's just a week at the Woodfield Mall. You're sleeping over in what is now a Starbucks.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And, like, I you know what's funny about that whole situation is, like, I my best childhood friend, Sammy, she doesn't listen to this, she'll never hear this. But, like, she and I, we grew up together. We've literally known each other since we were, like, four months old. And because of that, we could not be more different.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Right? And so it this felt very real to me, like, in this sort of idea that, like, one of the kids, one of the girls is, like, very tomboyish, and the other is, like, very girly. And, like, it makes sense. Like, Ellie would have absolutely zero interest in going to this camp. Right?
Speaker 1:And then this girl meets another girl who, like
Speaker 2:Wants go to the right.
Speaker 1:Exactly. And it's like, yeah, you kinda grow apart from people like that sometimes and, like, that totally makes sense. So yeah. Anyway, sorry to interrupt.
Speaker 2:That's totally fine. My favorite moment aside from fashionista glam camp is when the mom is wearing the t shirt she wanted her to buy, and it said, I'm so girly, I cry glitter. I loved that she ended up buying the shirt because they do a montage, going shopping, and she's like, buy this. And she's like, no. But then the mom ends up wearing it.
Speaker 1:So So
Speaker 2:it's my favorite moment. My two least favorite moments are I don't like that she bit her nails a lot out of anxiety. I just found it really distracting whenever her hand was in front of her mouth. And then I did not like the scene of the sharing of the mouth guards. Oh.
Speaker 2:Did not like that. That was so gross.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Did did funny, though, when when he was like, not my mouth. Not my mouth. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So funny. And then I had a couple favorite lines, which I wrote down wrong, so I was reading it.
Speaker 2:Okay. One of the the cold open that we shared, loved that, where she goes between us and the badminton team. Ew. And then he, like, the badminton coach, like, tries to hit her, and she goes, aim for your neck next time. And, like, it was just funny that they like, I loved the them.
Speaker 2:They were so funny.
Speaker 1:That rivalry. Yeah. It was so silly.
Speaker 2:And I'm also doing another rant off of this, but I was on the softball team in high school, and I will say, I was at my peak meanness in sophomore year. And sophomore year, we were on the running track upstairs in the auxiliary gym, and the badminton team was, like, up there running. And me and the other girls on the football team were like, badminton's not even a real sport. Like, what are they doing up here? Like, what are you running for?
Speaker 2:And we were so mean. We weren't mean to, like, to them or to their face, I didn't I, like, I wasn't talking shit to, like, hey, Moriah, you know? It was just very much, like, the badminton girls. Like, we play that in gym class. It was a huge bitch.
Speaker 2:Still am. I digress. Favorite other quotes were, oh, you gonna cry baby butter?
Speaker 1:I love the idea of a younger brother being called baby butter. They had so many good nicknames.
Speaker 2:I loved them. I loved those
Speaker 1:two. The brothers.
Speaker 2:Were so good.
Speaker 1:They were great.
Speaker 2:The dad did a lot of quotes, and he goes, better three hours too soon than a minute late. Shakespeare. And I don't know if that was Shakespeare or not, but I just liked the way he said it.
Speaker 1:It was just a running bit that he would misquote literally every single
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's so good. He's like, I don't know who said that, but it's a good quote. Fine. You want to goof off? I'm gonna go to the snack bar and give you some pork rinds.
Speaker 2:I love pork rinds. The nurse. Yep. I wrote Who Even Am I? Don't know what that's from.
Speaker 2:It was probably the way someone said it, not so much.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't remember.
Speaker 2:Maybe it was him as her when he goes, girly? Or he's like, girl? And he's like, oh yeah, a dude? Like something, either I don't I think it was something like that. And then the porty line where he goes, even I'm better than you and I have chronic halitosis.
Speaker 2:And as someone who's single, who comes across halitosis so often, y'all need to be scraping your tongues. And this is a PSA. Thank you for listening. Val, favorite
Speaker 1:quotes and moments. Oh, thank you, Al. I loved the concept of truomers. True a true rumor. Love that.
Speaker 1:Keep those mac and cheese holes shut. Another nurse line.
Speaker 2:So good. Like, so memorable for one scene.
Speaker 1:I know. At one point, Ellie says, my mom has her pilot's license in helicopter parent, which I thought was funny. I also liked that they sort of did a a parent trap in how they, like, educated each other on their respective parents. Mhmm. I like that a lot.
Speaker 1:They even acknowledged that this is definitely Freaky Friday because they said twice, freak just keeps getting freakier. They were 100% making that comment. At one point, Jack, who is Ellie at this point in Jack's body, goes, this testosterone stuff is redonkulous. The the mean girl goes, it's gonna be Tres Chic.
Speaker 2:Yes. Uh-huh. I was
Speaker 1:To a Paris themed party. Yes. Which was great. And she also says, we don't do third wheel relationships.
Speaker 2:Man. But I did not like Aspen.
Speaker 1:No. She sucked. But, there were a couple, like, funny lines. And then at one point, the another nickname for for, Jack from the brothers. I'm worried about you, Bromegana juice.
Speaker 1:And I wouldn't have been able to say that clearly in in in on camp so good for him.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:Oh, at one point, Porter goes, it's the least I can do for the guy who aligned me with my infinite self.
Speaker 2:Woof. Loved Porter.
Speaker 1:Porter if if if you only watch this movie for Porter Yeah. It's worth it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And he even has blooper. Like, they they show, like, all of his other takes in the credits.
Speaker 2:So good. I would watch Yeah. Those
Speaker 1:Very funny. Yeah. Least favorite moments, plural, were the only times when I felt like this movie kind of went into, like, that silly area where I don't Mhmm. Love that. I don't think this is really, like, spoiling anything because, like, we know Ellie is in Jack's body.
Speaker 1:But, like, basically, at one point, she's, like, playing hockey, but she, like, does, like, a rhythmic gymnastics move, like, while playing hockey. And it's, like, played up as this, like, big thing. Yeah. And I'm just kinda like, I don't need that. Like, just have her be competent at hockey because she cared enough to learn how to play hockey to help him.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean? Like, we don't need that ridiculous move.
Speaker 2:To your point, Val, I was expecting him to do something that was like hockey in her thing. You know?
Speaker 1:Like Right. Right.
Speaker 2:And there was no, like, sliding against the thing or this or that. Right. Or
Speaker 1:Exactly. And, like, if you're gonna do one, do the other, you know, whatever. Like, they should map. So, yeah, it was just kind of silly, and, like, I don't love that when that kind of stuff comes into a movie that is otherwise, like, straightforward and, like, you know Yeah. Not silly in that way.
Speaker 1:There also is this moment, like, right at the end where they're both looking into the phone camera and, like, talking to themselves as if they're, like, looking in a mirror, I was just like, this is so stupid.
Speaker 2:Yeah. That that was a little silly. I get it because they were, like, making sure they switched back, but I don't know that
Speaker 1:they needed to be recording it or being like, hi. It's me. I'm back.
Speaker 2:I think they could just say, like, show me get me get your phone. I wanna see make sure I, like, look the same or, you know
Speaker 1:Right. Right. Exactly. Like and or they could like, there there was a running joke that he stank. Right?
Speaker 1:Because he's a boy. Right? And so he could have just been oh, yep. I'm back. You know?
Speaker 1:Or something like they could have, like, done a callback to something like that.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So that kind of annoyed me. And then, like, the only other kind of I probably should have brought this up earlier. But, like, my my fundamental the fundamental flaw in this movie is that Jack is supposed to be, like, really popular and cool. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:And he and I don't know if it's the way it is in the book too or, like, if it's just this guy or whatever. There is no universe where this guy gives cool, popular in any way whatsoever. And I don't think it was necessary. Like, the only thing that made it kind of necessary was, like, sassy having a crush on him or whatever. But, like, they could have explained that in any number of ways.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Like, just didn't make sense to me that he was, like, popular. Yeah. And they even have to spend, like, an entire scene on, like, well, I'm popular, but I have no idea how to talk
Speaker 2:to girls. It's like, okay. I feel like To your point, yes. And but then yes. But I think about the popular kids in my school, and there were like the popular group, and there's like the one guy who's like in the popular group, but he's more of like an introvert, but he's still cute.
Speaker 2:And so maybe they were trying to go for that instead of just straight up tall quarterback. They're going for, like, jock who's trying to get on varsity, but he's so nice to you know? Like, I
Speaker 1:don't know. Yeah. And, like, I I totally get that. I just don't like, they kept saying how popular he was, but he didn't give popular at all. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Neither did his friends. And, like, that's okay. There's nothing wrong with that. Like Yeah. If anything, I don't necessarily think there needs to be, like, this, like, binary of, like, popular or not.
Speaker 1:No. There there does. The the reality I don't know. The reality in my high school like, there was certainly, like, the what we would call, like, the beautiful people or whatever. Right?
Speaker 1:But, like
Speaker 2:put air quotes. She put air quotes.
Speaker 1:I don't know. That's just what we call them. But, like, there wasn't really, like other than that, I guess, there wasn't really, like everyone else was kind of just doing their own thing. Yeah. Right?
Speaker 1:It was more about, like, what you were into or, like, you know, like, those kinds of connections rather than, like, you know, were you popular, quote, unquote. Like, that conversation wasn't really, a thing in high school. Maybe more so in middle school, but not not really in high school, at least in my experience. And so, like, it would have felt, like, normal to me for him to just be, like, a jock who this girl like, pretty girl has a crush on. Like, that still makes sense even if he's not necessarily, like, popular.
Speaker 1:Like, I don't think we need to, like, hammer that so hard Mhmm. Like, he's just not, like, he's not giving that at all. Anyway, I despite those criticisms, I did enjoy this movie. I thought it was fun, and those were my favorite quotes. And, like, honestly, I don't think I have a favorite moment.
Speaker 1:I think that I really just enjoy all of the interactions in this movie. Mhmm. Like, whether it's, like, between the mom and Ellie or between, like, the brothers and Jack or between the Mac, the nice girl, and either one of the you know, like, or Porter and whoever. Like, I I think, like, that and I think that's a sign of a good movie where it's like, there's not just one standout moment. There's just a lot of nice moments.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Absolutely. I think that's fair. Yeah. Yes.
Speaker 1:Thank you. Al, anything else you wanna talk about before we move on to spoiler city?
Speaker 2:No. I don't think so. But it's like this crazy thing happened to me today, Val, where I was texting and I like, I said, I wish my top would come off and it did. So I ended up having to take, you know, a motorized scooter powered by soda with my top off to Spoiler City, which I ran into you on the fork in the road, also on your motorized scooter that you actually had like nose dived through a window to get into. And now we're on our way to Spoiler City.
Speaker 1:Wow. That was elaborate and great.
Speaker 2:I did improv today, so I'm feeling a certain type of way.
Speaker 1:You have to
Speaker 2:decide what way that is.
Speaker 1:Got it.
Speaker 2:Okay, welcome to Spoiler City. I've got a medium amount of notes today. This one's gonna be, I feel like it's gonna be verbose only because it's basically two stories happening at once. So I will do my best. We open the movie with a, If I was you, I'd wanna be me too.
Speaker 2:I'd wanna be me too. I'd wanna be me too. By Megan Trainor. And we see a guy playing hockey, a girl doing what sport, Val?
Speaker 1:Rhythmic gymnastics. So
Speaker 2:we got a new little sport in here, which I thought was super fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It was fun. Did you ever do it in PE? I did not. Oh, we did.
Speaker 2:Nice. I think if I had stayed in my private elementary middle school, we would have, but not in my public one. We did square dancing and volleyball instead.
Speaker 1:We also did square dancing.
Speaker 2:I got to dance with Blake Nelson. Shout out to Blake. He listens to the pod. Just kidding. He doesn't know that I do a podcast, but we do keep in contact once every two years.
Speaker 2:So that's nice.
Speaker 1:Wow. Okay. Hope you're well.
Speaker 2:Okay. So we know that dad is the hockey coach for Jack, who is basically I was about to say auditioning. Trying out for varsity hockey. And there's a guy on the team who's also trying to get on the team, Porter, and so they're like fighting for this last spot. There's one open spot on varsity.
Speaker 2:And so the coach's son or Porter, who's tried four years in a row and can't get on the team.
Speaker 1:And Jack also has two older brothers who are already on varsity.
Speaker 2:Yes. And he's a sophomore. So that's why it's like, oh my god, this sophomore could, you know, make it on varsity. And it's a very big familial expectation that he makes it on to varsity. We cut to the girls who are doing the rhythmic gymnastics, and we find out that Sassy went to fashionista glam camp and came home with a new best friend, Aspen, which I don't like Aspen as a person, but I actually do like Aspen as a name.
Speaker 2:I'm not gonna lie. I think it's kind
Speaker 1:of fun.
Speaker 2:And so she like lost her partner because now Sassy's gonna do her duo with Aspen, and then we find out from our cold open that the school's gonna cut one of the sports if they don't hit the big game. So, it's between them and badminton. So, it's Friday, and it's Friday. So, we have a pop up that it's Friday, that everyone knows it's Friday, Friday, freaky stuff on Friday. And Jack, is playing with his brothers in the front yard before school, and they're they're not just like playing tag, they're playing hockey, okay?
Speaker 2:And he gets hit with the puck, which would not make him fall down if he's like basically a varsity hockey player, but falls, shatters his phone, and they like, the brothers like make fun of him for his hair, and then they're like, oh, dad got you new phone. But then it gets like somber, and it's like, it's mom's old phone. So then we find out that mom passed away, and they have like, you know, her stuff that they haven't really touched, but the only cell phone that he could have is this pink sparkly cell phone. So he takes that.
Speaker 1:They do a good job showing rather than telling you what happened to her. Like, it's not like, this is from our dead mom. Right. They just sort of are like, this is the only phone that's available. Yeah.
Speaker 2:They get into it a little bit later, but they do very do it very delicately, and it's really nice. Mhmm. Mhmm. Then we get back to Ellie, and she's, like, trying to text her best friend Sassy, but she's not texting her back. And then she has a really good relationship with her mom.
Speaker 2:Her mom is very involved. That's the like helicopter ness. She's also very like, I would say spiritual in Crunchy?
Speaker 1:Is that the right word?
Speaker 2:Crunchy, yeah. In vibes and aura and the moon, and she's very spiritual in that sense. And she said, like, oh, man, you're on your phone all the time. Like, you have to stop worshiping your phone. It's a totem.
Speaker 2:You're gonna make it this thing that's, you know, you're idolizing, basically.
Speaker 1:So the reason why Ellie is so attached to this old flip phone is because it was her dad's, and her dad kind of seemingly abandoned the family. So she it's like her last thing that was his. So that's why the mom is concerned that she's, like, attaching all this meaning
Speaker 2:to it. So then we cut to this scene where, Val and I kinda mentioned it earlier where it's like these montages where everyone's kind of texting each other. So we have the thought, they pop up with their thought and the text bubble, so we kind of find out who has crushes on one another and Ellie's weird and blah blah blah and all these things. Aspen was basically like, make sure Ellie doesn't come to the party because she's gonna be soy weird. Sassy is fully being manipulated by this new girl.
Speaker 2:And Sassy has a crush on Jack, so she tries to go up to him and we see him stutter. He doesn't know how to talk to girls. So for being like a popular person, he doesn't know how to talk to girls. Okay. So he just like gets nervous and walks away.
Speaker 2:Then we're in the bathroom and Aspen and Sassy are in there talking out loud about Ellie and how ever since her dad left, she's been super weird and like holding on to the past. She's like, we're, you know, kind of like, Sassy's like being mean, but also is like, we're different people and all of these things. And they like kind of talk about getting rid of her as a friend. And so Ellie is like really upset. So she starts crying and she goes to the nurse.
Speaker 2:And then Jack went to the nurse because of what Val?
Speaker 1:I think it's because Porter like leveled him at tryouts.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:But, mhmm. Okay.
Speaker 2:I think so too. So he he, like, got hit in the eye or something. He had, like, an ice pack, didn't he? Oh, yeah. I don't remember why he's hit the nurse.
Speaker 2:But they're, like, having this, like, battle of the sexes in the nurses. What looks like cafeteria. This surely isn't a nurse's office. It's surely the nurse's cafeteria. It's huge.
Speaker 2:And she's like, hey, here's a thermometer. Here's a thermometer. Don't talk. I'm going go get a pork rind. And she like puts thermometers in their mouth so they can't talk.
Speaker 2:So they're like texting each other like, you suck, you suck. And they're like, you have such a good life. And they say in text to one another, I wish I had your life. It would be so much better. And then because they sent that and because of the totem rule from our spirituality of it all, we get lightning strikes and all of this stuff and they switch bodies.
Speaker 2:And they are, you know, freaking out, of course, because it's the end of the school day and they're like, in four and a half minutes, like you literally have to go with my family and I literally have to go with your family. So to Val's point from earlier, they do their parent a trap, like update as quick as possible, but they also have their phones to help them out a little bit through this process of like, hey, like this, this, this, this, this. So from this point on, because they have switched, when I say she and talk about Ellie, imagine her as Jack. Jake. Jack.
Speaker 2:Don't know.
Speaker 1:Jack.
Speaker 2:So when I say her, she is operating as boy.
Speaker 1:She's in a boy's She's
Speaker 2:in a boy's body. And when I say him or he or Jack, he is operating in Ellie's body. That's the way I wrote this of like she did this, but imagine her doing this as
Speaker 1:Or as as him.
Speaker 2:Yes. Okay. Does this make sense, Val?
Speaker 1:I think so.
Speaker 2:Okay, great. So they're like in each other's bodies, and they're like trying to like figure out how to communicate with one another. So then they're like faking in front of their respective people. So she has to fake in front of Porter because they're like going head to head and like trying to buy for that last spot. And he has to like try to be friends with Sassy, even though Sassy has a crush on, you know, the guy she's with now and all this stuff.
Speaker 2:So they're like, we see them like interact with their friends at first, and then they're really talking on the phone to one another. So then he goes to rhythmic gymnastics practice, and very funny to watch the leotard of it all. Didn't know how to wear it, so just put it on in front of on top of the leggings and Lululemon sweatshirt. He was like, what? I got chilly.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And he's you can tell that he's really struggling through this, and he, like, even, like, tackles Aspen to the ground, which was really funny. And that scene was very cute. And then she ends up going to the boys' house, and it's a very stinky house. They talk about how boys are stinky.
Speaker 2:The guy by the all the boys are so stinky. And then the first thing she does is cut his hair. So before it was giving, like, if anyone saw the Caveman Geico commercials, that's kind of what
Speaker 1:his hair looks like. But his brothers are trying to cut it.
Speaker 2:Yes. His brothers, like Like, they've really want him to cut it.
Speaker 1:She I basically, I wanna clarify that she didn't just sort of go home and cut his hair of no, like, a cord. Like, hit she walked into his house, and his brothers were like, ready to cut your hair? And like, she Sure. Why not? She didn't even really understand what they were asking because they were using, like, weird terminology.
Speaker 1:And she was like, Yeah. Okay. Cut his hair off.
Speaker 2:So funny. So then cuts his hair, all this stuff, and she's like trying to figure out how to like kind of take care of him a little bit more. And then Aspen overhears him on the phone. Him on the phone? Yeah, because it was he, as Ellie, was on the phone talking, being like, Jack, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2:And so Aspen's like, Sassy, your quote best friend is like flirting with the guy you like, so breaking girl code. Then mom got Ellie a new cell phone, so Jack takes in and is like, okay. But then the totem, so to speak, is gone. So the totem that they assumed they would need to use to get like get over this and figure it out because they're like, oh, the totems are like our cell phones are what did this. Mom got a new one or and like the old one's going to be shut off by Sunday So at sorry, like no ifs, ands, or buts, you're getting a new cell phone on Sunday.
Speaker 2:She is at hockey tryouts and she's doing really terrible. And I wrote, I was like, I cannot imagine having to do hockey stuff as a passing for a player if you don't know how to play hockey. She's the man you can kind of run and kick a ball
Speaker 1:a little bit. Play soccer.
Speaker 2:Basketball, you can stand and throw a ball. Hockey, if you don't know how to skate, sorry, you're not passing for anything. Right. I can't I can't imagine how you do that. And then Jack, as Ellie, has to go get a physical for school, and he put a mask over his eyes, and the doctor's like, Are you okay?
Speaker 2:He's like, Yeah, I'm just trying to be respectful.
Speaker 1:Basically, he refused to ever look at himself as her naked,
Speaker 2:It's which is like a running gag or bit, but it was so welcome and funny, and they did
Speaker 1:it so
Speaker 2:respectfully. Right.
Speaker 1:And he said, My mom taught me to always be respectful. Like, it was, like, a very important thing to him Yeah. That he, like because, like, in reality, let's be honest, if two teenagers switched bodies, literally, the first and possibly only thing that they would do is go find a full length mirror and just stand in front of
Speaker 2:you especially and be like
Speaker 1:a boy.
Speaker 2:Right. He, this whole time, was doing everything he could. There's a scene coming up that's my favorite one. But it was just so funny, and the doctor's like, are you okay? It was very cute.
Speaker 2:They did a really nice job of Handling this. Trying to be like, let me check your and he crosses his legs and he's like, oh, good. He did such such a good job. Yes. Yes.
Speaker 2:So then we find out that his mom's anniversary of her passing is this upcoming Sunday, which is day of big game, day of big audition, hockey audition, day of cell phone. So Sunday's the big day. He got home, and I think I mentioned this, but I'm gonna mention it again. The coach is his dad. And so he comes home and he's like, oh, man, you cut your hair.
Speaker 2:Your mom always liked it long. And that like hits you right
Speaker 1:in the gut where you're like, oh.
Speaker 2:So she's like, oh, what? And then we cut to, he's in the bath because the mom's like, let me draw you a bath. So he's in the bath with tea and bubbles and candles, and they talk on the phone and it's like, oh no, don't worry, I'm being respectful. And he's like in a swimsuit. And like, that was my favorite where like, oh, you were just talking about how you're like uncomfortable and then like full on swimsuit in the bath.
Speaker 2:So funny. And then I also liked that when she sat down in a towel after the shower, she crossed her legs.
Speaker 1:She crossed her legs.
Speaker 2:I know. Was so cute. It was just like they did such a good job acting as one another.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like these little details. Yeah.
Speaker 2:But then he was on the phone and dad's like, oh, you gotta focus up. I'm taking your cell phone until Sunday. And he was like she was like, ah. And then it's Saturday, so we're one third of the way Probably closer to half. Sassy shows up in the morning to Ellie's place and calls Ellie out for flirting with Jack, she doesn't realize, and she's like, don't be so Ellie when you go to the party.
Speaker 2:And I was like, what the heck is so wrong with her BFF being against her? She's so rude.
Speaker 1:She's so mean. She also literally is like she looks her up and down because she's wearing, like, footy pajamas, which is weird, admittedly, but, like, whatever. She's looking her up and down. She goes, never mind. What was I even worried about?
Speaker 1:Like Yeah. Are you kidding? Like, if someone said that to me, especially someone who I thought was my friend, I'd be like, Screw you, I'm never targeting you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, literally. So Jack in that moment was like picking up on this, was fully picking up on the fact that like, Okay, this girl actually kind of sucks. And then this was my thought. So we're gonna see if it comes to fruition, but this is what I wrote in this moment. I feel like they swapped because they needed the other parent in their life.
Speaker 2:They show mom's closet and then they show the mom and daughter day. So that was my thought in that moment. So they show mom's closet from Jack's side. So Ellie is looking at mom's closet. It's all of her stuff.
Speaker 2:They haven't touched it. It's very much like kind of metaphor of hiding things away and putting like keeping
Speaker 1:like shoving it
Speaker 2:down and not dealing it. It was very much like, can't believe you opened that door. And she was like, yeah, I definitely didn't think this was the door to outside, which is clearly right here, which was such a cute little moment. And so we are like starting to like open up to the fact that like, you know, mom passed away. And then we see mom and daughter day.
Speaker 2:So Jack is getting this moment of makeover and spa and enjoyment with mom who cares so much and is so involved.
Speaker 1:Also, way that he reacted to getting a pedicure is exactly how both Michael and I react to
Speaker 2:getting pedicures. So funny. It's like, Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh, so god. Ticklish. It's rough.
Speaker 2:That's so funny. So when they were originally doing their, like, meet with Porter, so our friend Porter is back, the one who's, like, trying to get the the spot on varsity as well. Mhmm. They kind of set a date with the Ellie of it all. And so he's like, oh yeah, I'll
Speaker 1:take you up
Speaker 2:for donuts jumpsuit or tracksuit. Like he's got like kind of like a little crush on her. And so Porter shows up to this donut date, but she shows up as Jack and he's like, What are you doing here? And he's like, Hey, I just want to talk. Like, I just want to like figure this out.
Speaker 2:And so then they end up having like this bro heart to heart. And he's like, You know, you've tried out four years in a row and you haven't made it. Like, is this really what you want to do? And he's like, I don't know. I'm not really good at anything else.
Speaker 2:Meanwhile, he's like, If you've seen fifty First Dates where he makes the little waffle houses out of waffles or like the little like contraptions, It's kind of like he's doing that. He's like made like this like catapult. Catapult. Thank you, Val. And he's like, and so she's like, you're really good at that.
Speaker 2:You're really smart. What do you like? I have an idea. And she brings him to the STEM club, and he's like, Woah, wait. Actually, this is all really cool.
Speaker 2:And it turns out that he designed his own scooter that runs on soda. I think that comes back later, but Yeah,
Speaker 1:it does.
Speaker 2:Mentioning it now. And so he joins STEM club and then is no longer interested in hockey. He's like, yeah. Don't know why I was doing that. This is actually really cool.
Speaker 1:And also in this moment, Jack has a connection with Mac, where who is also in the STEM club. Yes. And so Ellie, as Jack, approaches Mac and is like, I forgot you were in this. And Mac's like, do you know who I am? And they have this sort of, like, cute little moment, and you can tell that she's kinda like, oh.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Who's this? This guy. Yep. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So that was cute little sweet thing that happened as well.
Speaker 2:And then we he goes to the store to be like, can you extend my phone plan? Need longer than Sunday. And the guy's like, Yeah, no. And she's like, Man, I can't believe my mom did this. Like, why would she do this?
Speaker 2:And the guy was like, Oh, looks like it wasn't canceled by your mom. It was canceled by your dad. And so that is the like, Oh, father, kind of like left the family thing. And so he's struggling with, do I like tell her this right away? And then he like kind of calls her out for like, why do you want to be friends with Sassy anyway?
Speaker 2:Like, she's actually a horrible person. And Aspen's terrible. And I wrote and I like that about him. Mhmm. And then Aspen shows up to the spa that he's at with her mom, and she's, like, talking shit about, like, Ellie and, like, all of this stuff.
Speaker 2:And so then the woman is French and is like, yes, I'm going to dye your hair. And like puts a mask on her eyes, which okay. Then he goes over and like puts a bunch of hair dye on her hair, which I wrote, watch this turn out perfectly like weirdly dyed, which it was, and even though it was like gooped on. And then they convince her that he needs to like relax, like he has a lot of anxiety about little things and the brothers, this is why they say they. The brothers are like, hey, man.
Speaker 2:Like, you just gotta be a little bit more chill.
Speaker 1:Take a night off.
Speaker 2:Take a night go to Owen's house for game night, you know? And, like, they're like, you deserve to, like, like your life and yourself.
Speaker 1:His brothers are, like, oddly emotionally intelligent, and I really liked that. Like, they could have just been these sort of caricature, like, you know, bro, like, idiots. Yeah. And they were not.
Speaker 2:No. And Not at then Porter shows up and is like, hey, man. Like, thanks for the stem of it all. Like, I actually really like that. And then they kind of, like, help each other out.
Speaker 2:And by they, I mean, Ellie helps Jack. Jack helps Ellie. They, like, do the new clothes and stuff. And then Ellie goes and sets up, like, mom's blanket and pillows and stuff to be like, you need a space where you can like mourn and relax and and like be, you know, more of yourself.
Speaker 1:Know, connected to
Speaker 2:your mom. Yeah. And then, she realizes that Porter doesn't have any friends, and so invites Porter to game night at Owens, which is so funny because they walk in and she's like, okay, this can be really weird. So just like, let me do the introducing and, like, fully prep. And then they walk in and they're like, hey, man, this is Porter.
Speaker 2:And they're like, cool. You want a piece of pizza? Yeah. And then like and she was like, what the this is so easy for boys. For girls, you're like, okay, we're gonna talk about this.
Speaker 2:And then, like, if someone mentions this, don't bring you know, like, there's just so much prep. And then we get to the party and then we're at the Paris party. So some girls birthday are just having a party that's like themed, which is a fun party because the parents know about it too. Like, mom was like, yeah, I'm getting you new clothes and hair for this Paris party you're going to. And the girls are so mean.
Speaker 2:These girls are truly so like, we I you have to watch this movie just so you can understand how mean they are.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Someone hurt Aspen. Yeah. Like, there you don't just end up that mean just with nothing going on. Yeah.
Speaker 1:She has a sad home life.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So then, Mackenzie comes over and is like, hey. Those girls were really mean. Do you wanna dance? And they do this, like, mini choreographed dance, which was so cute, where they're like punching because he does not know how to dance.
Speaker 2:So they just kind of like follow him. And then they have a heart to heart about like making new friends and like it was really nice. Mackenzie was a good little addition to this story.
Speaker 1:Then we
Speaker 2:have the heart to heart with her, where he, you know, talking to all these guys and he's like, Yeah, man, you got no game. But it was such a funny scene too, where it's like, Yeah, what's wrong with me? He's like, Yeah, you know what's wrong with you. He's like, Yeah, no, no, no, no. Just tell me what's wrong with me.
Speaker 2:It was just so funny. So she realizes, Oh, okay. I need to make him more confident when talking to girls type of thing. Then we cut back to the Paris party, and he fully sticks up for Sassy and Aspen being mean of like, you guys need to stop doing that. But then they're like, okay, well then let's go meet the guys then and see what they think.
Speaker 2:And then the guy
Speaker 1:Well, she basically lets them believe that, or he lets them believe that they're together.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, were like,
Speaker 1:are together. And they're like, Yeah, let's see that.
Speaker 2:Then they have to
Speaker 1:cry and prove.
Speaker 2:And then the guys are talking about the girls and raiding them. So she's like, Yeah, why are we doing this? Don't like that.
Speaker 1:But then Also, they were
Speaker 2:accurate. They weren't wrong. They weren't wrong. That Aspen shallow and whoever's a nine.
Speaker 1:Right. Sassy. Yeah. Like, they were like, they're hot, but they kind of seem fake. And then they were like, but Ellie Ellie's, like, a sleeper.
Speaker 1:Mhmm. You know? Like, she like, you wouldn't necessarily think, but she's actually really hot.
Speaker 2:So she's sitting there listening to this being like, oh my god, you guys. So then they go to
Speaker 1:the river,
Speaker 2:and they meet each other down by the river. And then then he walks up and is like, kiss me. And she's like, and they're like, let's go kiss over here. Just the two of us. And I did something that I missed their whole conversation when they were just the two of us.
Speaker 1:Val, what was their conversation about? Basically, he, as her, is like, just kiss me. We need to, like, prove you know, I'm trying to, like, prove to, like, Sassy and Aspen that we're together, blah blah blah. And she, as him, is like, no. I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1:Like, that's not the answer here. Blah blah blah. And so then they go back, and they're kind of, like, fighting. Right? Because, like, they're not agreeing on how to resolve this issue.
Speaker 1:And then they go back to the group. Like, they course, Nassy and Aspen are being shitty, and that's when he, as Ellie,
Speaker 2:right? Yeah, like fully stands up and is like, You guys are terrible. This is horrible. Like, I don't want to be your friend. But then the coach shows up, which I forgot to mention that he kept calling his dad coach this whole time.
Speaker 2:So he'd be like, coach, and he like comes to get Jack and she starts crying because she's upset because she just lost her best friend. But she also like, you know, is like sticking up for everything. And then we get the like, Boys don't cry, what are you doing? So then upset even more and goes to lay, like she goes to lay down and all of the like pillows and blankets that were moms comes and dad goes like, Oh, he's like, You need to redeem yourself because everyone's gonna think you're weak. And then he like sees mom stuff in the room and he like kind of stops bothering her.
Speaker 2:And then the brothers come in console and like leave a note. And so like, they are more emotionally intelligent than their father. And he, as Ellie, storms to her room and is just really contemplating the relationship with Sassy and being like, Why are you friends with her? Like, saying it out loud. And looks at her changing of the picture.
Speaker 1:This is Jack This as
Speaker 2:is why Val, I told you, was going to get very confusing. So, he is looking at her electronic like frame where you can change pictures and send pictures, and it's a bunch of pictures of young Ellie, young Sassy, and Ellie's dad. And so he's like swiping through and like kind of gets this thing of like, oh, you can't she doesn't want to lose both. She lost her dad. She doesn't want to lose her best friend through this as well.
Speaker 2:So he kind of realizes that. And then I don't remember how they told Owen, but they told Owen.
Speaker 1:They they do it off camera. So, like, basically I was like, did I miss something?
Speaker 2:So I'm glad that
Speaker 1:yeah. Yeah. So, basically, they're just like, look. Like, the only answer here is that we each have to be able to be competent in the other person's, like, sport. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And Owen is apparently, like, the manager of the sports complex or whatever, has a key in some for some reason. And so they were like, we have to go get Owen. So, like, by the time they get to the sports complex
Speaker 2:They've already had that conversation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, debriefed and understands what's going on.
Speaker 2:And so they're like, okay. I figured out that when I needed to, I was able to tap into your body skills, and we just have to, like, practice and learn the routines and this and that just so that we can get through Sunday so that we can both figure it out. Basically, in this world of swap to the not knowing how to play hockey, it was just a think really hard, feel like you're in the body, like you'll know what you're doing type of thing. So he ends up really picking up on the rhythmic gymnastics and she ends up really, you know, not incredibly picking up on the hockey, but enough to pass during a skills tryout or during the scrimmage. And that was like an overnight thing.
Speaker 2:So they're doing this from 11PM until And seven then we get to Sunday. So they have to fulfill this quest by noon, otherwise the totem will be gone. Oh, I should mention the mom helped him find a book, and so they read on totems and switching back and things like that, and so they have to fulfill their quest, so to speak, and they have to do this by noon.
Speaker 1:They think the quest is making their life better, and they think that that is, like, making the hockey varsity team and winning this Yes. Meet. That's what they think the Quest is.
Speaker 2:So Ellie's dad, of course, did not show up to the rhythmic gymnastics, but then he, like, hella gets it done. I mean, perfect score. And then the badminton coach was there watching, which was super funny. And then we cut to they dedicated, like, a chair in the hockey rink to mom, which makes me sad that he wasn't there to see that and it was her, but it's okay.
Speaker 1:Owen addresses it with him. He's like, are you sure you don't you have time to go sneak and be there? And he's like, I don't wanna be there. Yeah. I don't
Speaker 2:wanna be sad, but I get it. Yeah. And then they do the scrimmage, and then she use uses her dance skills in the hockey game to, like, do a flip around another player, which is Which I hate it. Validated. Which, like, I don't care that you do that, but do it for the other side too.
Speaker 2:Have it,
Speaker 1:you know Like, be consistent.
Speaker 2:Bring a hockey puck in there and hit it across the you know, like, do something in the dance. Yeah. You just have it be parallel, but they didn't. But they did it. The he makes varsity and the team won.
Speaker 2:Badminton is not taking over. And so they get their phones and they try to swap back and they get a text back that just says fail. And they like text like, I did it, I'm better, you know, or like whatever. And I wish to switch back and it didn't work. So this is where he finally tells her like, hey, so your dad is actually the one who switched off the phone plan, which makes her be like, okay, well, he's never coming back.
Speaker 2:This sucks. And then his as Jack, like the coach dad is like, hey, we gotta go. Like, you made varsity. We're going home. And so they are like splits, so they're like not with each other anymore.
Speaker 2:So they go home and the dad is being super mean, and she finally sticks up to him and is like, You need to not tell me to be a man. You are, like you know, like, goes through this whole thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah. She basically is like, do you know how much it hurts when you say stuff like that? And he was just like, what? Like, stop being emotional, you know, whatever. And and she was like, no.
Speaker 1:Like, this is bonkers. Like, you can't just talk to me like this. Yeah. I thought it was a really cool moment.
Speaker 2:Yes. It was. I don't know that dad would turn around that fast in real life, but I'll take it. It. And then he talks to mom about like missing her.
Speaker 2:And so the mom in this is like, oh my god, my daughter is missing me. When in reality he's like opening up about like really missing his mom and he, you know
Speaker 1:Allows himself to cry.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and like feel that like he is really sad about not having his mom. So he like hugs her and I think he like feels in that moment of like, Oh, I'm hugging a mom. And it kind of fulfilled that for him. And then we get cut back to sticking up for the dad, and she goes even in and kind of admitting all of the things she wished she could admit to her dad of like, you're not there and you don't care and all of these things. And so then, you know, he feels better and he's like, gotta go to the bathroom.
Speaker 2:And he's like, wait, I feel better for singing up for dad. And so then he's like, I'm going for a run. And they call each other and they're like, We have five minutes. I feel better. Like I fixed my life.
Speaker 2:And then they go and they like, We only have one minute left. And also like, hated, to your not liking the flip in the hockey game. I hated how she just waited in the middle of the bridge instead of like, Hey, I'm here first. I'm just gonna stand in the middle of the bridge, wait for you. Instead of going to like meeting you there, you know?
Speaker 2:And she's like, I've been here for seventeen minutes. You have one minute to spare, know? Like, come on. But then they text their wish, like, I wish I had my body back. I'm better.
Speaker 2:And then it works, so everyone's happy. Mom's gonna be okay. We're going be okay. We'll do this together. And then dad opens up and is like, I'm sorry ever since your mom died.
Speaker 2:You know, I thought that you needed tough love, but I realize that you don't. Like, don't call me coach, call me dad. And then they have like a group hug with the brothers and everything, too. We get our like montage people texting scene again, and we see, you know, like oh, we also at a certain point were like Jack and Ellie were like, no, we're friends. We are we're friends.
Speaker 2:We're good. Like, we are we don't like each other, but Owen wants to ask out. Ellie, Jack, and Mackenzie are, you know, a kind of an item. Sassy apologizes, but they're like, you know what? Let's just be cool and move on.
Speaker 2:Ellie Amicable breakup. Yeah. And Ellie had this moment of like, we are different people now, and I can still I have love for you without being your friend and remembering all of our fun times, but we're just different people now and that's okay. Even though I think Sassy should still grow up, but that's untimed for another story. And then they're like on their way out of school and you can see that the single mom and the single dad are like, you know, picking up their kids close by and they're like, Oh, have you met Mrs?
Speaker 2:And Oh, have you met Mr? And then we get that. And they start typing like, Oh man, I wish! And they're like, Just kidding! And they delete it.
Speaker 2:And then we get bloopers and that's it,
Speaker 1:and that's the swap. Yeah. So they're going to be brother and
Speaker 2:sister Yeah, literally.
Speaker 1:Basically. So maybe the synopsis was right in me.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I thought it was fun. Long synopsis. Sorry, y'all, but there's a lot in there. It's hard when there's two plots going on.
Speaker 1:Yeah. No. You did great. Thank you, Al.
Speaker 2:You're welcome.
Speaker 1:Should we just hop on over to bingo? Hop, hop, hop. Why don't you start today?
Speaker 2:Okay. One hit wonder song.
Speaker 1:No. No. The only songs in this are not one hit wonders. Breaking the fourth wall or looking into the camera. I don't remember anything.
Speaker 2:Does the coach look into the camera because she's talking?
Speaker 1:No. Not that I saw.
Speaker 2:K. Holiday themed.
Speaker 1:So an interesting sort of fun fact about this movie is it's not holiday themed. However, it came out as sort of, like, the October Oh. Like, as part of, like, what they were calling at the time, like, Monstober Oh, interesting. Release, even though it's not in any way Halloween themed or Simon's set around Halloween. Interesting.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So it's not holiday themed, but they kind of, like, put it in that slot.
Speaker 2:Cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Clunky metaphor. Well, we kinda talked about one.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Closet thing. Yeah. I mean, I think that, like, also just the idea that, like, getting the perspective of someone like, living someone else's life, like, literally
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Is, you know, like a metaphor for understanding how someone's life is metaphorically. Right? Absolutely. Yeah. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Parents who just don't get it. The dad for
Speaker 1:sure. Coach. Yeah. For sure. Cool non parent adult.
Speaker 1:To what count the nurse
Speaker 2:Nurse coach.
Speaker 1:For the gymnastics coach?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Oh, let's see.
Speaker 2:Someone too famous for a TV movie. Nope. Nope.
Speaker 1:Competition to resolve central problem. Yeah. Yes. Mhmm.
Speaker 2:A montage sequence. Two. Yep. Oh, cliche villains. Aspen.
Speaker 2:Aspen and sassy.
Speaker 1:Sassy. Sounds like a dog's name. Literally.
Speaker 2:Clothes or item you owned?
Speaker 1:I have rhythmic gymnastics ribbons.
Speaker 2:Wow, that doesn't surprise me at all. I had a very sparkly gemstone cell phone.
Speaker 1:Well, there you go. Also, we've definitely counted. I also own hockey sticks.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah. We have
Speaker 1:definitely have counted those before too. Cool. So we've got a ton of stuff. Perfect. Alright.
Speaker 1:Rotten Tomatoes, 40 to 60. I'm gonna go I'm gonna go 60 even.
Speaker 2:Close, but not at all. 45.
Speaker 1:Wow. Interesting. So at the very beginning, that's
Speaker 2:exactly And I was gonna
Speaker 1:then, you know, having liked it and hearing your rating, it pulled it up a little for me because I was like, oh, maybe other people liked it too. But no, apparently not.
Speaker 2:Nope. Happily ever after.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. Almost kissing. No. No.
Speaker 1:There's no I mean, I guess you could maybe count, like, when she's trying to convince or he's trying to convince her to kiss him on the bridge. But, like, I don't think there's actually, like, an almost there. Like, I think he's just like, kiss me. And Yeah. She's like, no.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Now someone who became famous. Yes. Peyton List.
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:At least.
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:At least.
Speaker 1:Betraying of one's real friends or values. I think I don't think it ever actually gets to that place. Like, I think that, like, she kind of wants to betray her own values to, like, try to maintain her friendship with Sassy. Yeah. But, ultimately, she doesn't actually have that opportunity because Jack is actually in her body and, like, refuses to do that Yeah.
Speaker 1:For her. So I don't think that either one of them actually ends up doing that. Narrator. Nope. Thank god.
Speaker 1:And look, it was a complicated story, and it did not require
Speaker 2:any a narrator.
Speaker 1:Look at that. Obviously, bad special effects or stunts. Not that I noticed. Like, I actually thought the hockey looked pretty good other than that silly jump. And even the jump, like, didn't look fake.
Speaker 1:It just looked silly.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Like, the reason behind it. Right.
Speaker 1:Even when
Speaker 2:they did the swap
Speaker 1:The lightning.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It was fine. It looked fine. Yeah. Pixel Perfect's way worse.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Disney Channel star. Yes. Peyton was in a couple of Disney shows.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Was in Jesse and Bunk'd.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:Musical number.
Speaker 2:No. Sad. Although they did have a dance number.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I don't think that counts. Magic.
Speaker 2:Yes. Magic and science magic because of our portie. Sweet portie
Speaker 1:That's right. Porties bike. Mhmm. Someone says the title of the movie.
Speaker 2:No. Scooby, dude. Yeah. Kind of. Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:They figured it out.
Speaker 1:Mhmm. Heroes create the problem. Oh, yeah. Mhmm. Very much so.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Lead is a fish out of water. Yes. That is actually exactly what Lead is a fish out
Speaker 1:of water means. Literally the premise of this movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah. All right, Val. Well, we did enjoy this movie. We didn't enjoy winning a bingo today. Marked a lot of boxes, just not all in the right
Speaker 1:spots. Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's okay. And now typically Val, we lead into a game. And you are making a face am typically ruining your life here. But what we're gonna do is I'm seeing you on Sunday. So we're gonna play a game when I see you on Sunday record and put that recording into here.
Speaker 2:So in about three seconds, we're gonna jump to after the game.
Speaker 1:Okay. Hey
Speaker 2:Val. Hey Val. We're sitting across from each other right now.
Speaker 1:Hey, we are.
Speaker 2:Okay, so I told you that we were
Speaker 1:going to play a game in person.
Speaker 2:So today's game is on
Speaker 1:the pod this week. We talked about how you have
Speaker 2:to like play a game that you are not like good at or know how to play
Speaker 1:very well. Like, just like, hey, you actually have to like be good at hockey right now even though you've never played. Right. So I did my best to think of a game that we could play that neither of us would particularly be very good at. So we're gonna
Speaker 2:play Finger football. Finger football.
Speaker 1:You see, Al is currently folding a piece of paper into a paper football. So we're gonna, you know, we'll just like play
Speaker 2:a couple, you know, back
Speaker 1:and forths. Have you played finger football before? Maybe once. Okay, great. So this was a good choice for Yes.
Speaker 1:The both of I know how to fold a paper football, but I don't know that I necessarily like played paper football. So the Internet says, that basically you're going to flick the paper football and you're trying to get it to land on the edge of the table. Okay. Do you have to put your finger on? No.
Speaker 1:So that's extra points.
Speaker 2:Oh, Let's see. Let me finish folding here. This is how I folded all
Speaker 1:of my notes in elementary school. Oh, sure, sure, sure. Footballs. Very good. It looks very good, everyone.
Speaker 2:Thank you. Thank you, everyone. Okay.
Speaker 1:So can you inspect the football? That is an expertly folded football. Thank you. Feels very balanced. Yep.
Speaker 1:Very nice. Very nice. I think this will fly well. Okay. Alright.
Speaker 1:So basically you like flick it and you're trying to get it to land like this, like half off the table. Got it. So if you do, you got to score the touchdown. And, that's six points. Now I think it's like this.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And you get like multiple tries.
Speaker 1:How many
Speaker 2:tries? You get four because it's like football. And then if you
Speaker 1:get it, then you get to Okay. Do the Got it. So we'll do we'll see. Should we see who goes first? Sure.
Speaker 2:How do
Speaker 1:you wanna do that? I don't know. Should we spin it and then whoever the point lands on it? Sure. You're good.
Speaker 1:Okay. That
Speaker 2:was planned. Okay. Alright. It's fine. It's fine.
Speaker 2:Alright. Kicking off? Kicking off. Wait, is there
Speaker 1:a point where I should like kick off from? Like is this a good spot? Sure. Okay. Here we'll use my T as your My end zone?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Okay. Is that a good end zone? Sure. Okay.
Speaker 2:Oh, one. Oh.
Speaker 1:I'm scared.
Speaker 2:Oh no. Alright, no points.
Speaker 1:Overshot. Okay.
Speaker 2:No points for me. Alright. Wait, I'm gonna switch our
Speaker 1:end zone so that I Alright, can drink my so do I kick it off first?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Okay. Ready? Okay. Here it comes.
Speaker 2:Oh, oh. Well, I was too slow. Lose. I don't know how many times should we just do
Speaker 1:this until someone scores? Sure. Or if that never happens, until we get bored. Okay. Okay.
Speaker 1:One. Two. Oh, too far. Okay, so now we're like getting the feel of it. Okay.
Speaker 1:See, so if this is
Speaker 2:like the championship game, neither of
Speaker 1:us are winning. Nope. But we also haven't stayed up all night in the sports complex. Oh, that's so true. Okay.
Speaker 2:Ready?
Speaker 1:Oh, that was good. One, two, three,
Speaker 2:four. I scored. That was scored. I scored. Okay, you get a field goal.
Speaker 2:Okay, ready? Is that high enough?
Speaker 1:Sure. Okay, ready? Yeah. One, wait. I'm scared.
Speaker 1:Do it this way. Okay. One, two, three. Oh, I got it.
Speaker 2:Okay, Val's kicking my ass. Seven points, baby. Okay. I have zero points,
Speaker 1:but full of heart. That's right. One. Oh. Two.
Speaker 1:Three. No. I got scared. Was so close. Okay.
Speaker 1:One more. Okay. More each. Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 1:Okay. Okay. I I like this way for kickoffs and
Speaker 2:then Yeah. The other way Okay. Ready? Okay. Oh, too hard.
Speaker 2:Too hard. Okay. So this is our last try.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:I'm about to lose the regionals right here for my body double. Woah. Okay. One. One.
Speaker 2:Two.
Speaker 1:Two. Three. Three. Alright. Field goal.
Speaker 1:Okay. Oh, I'm nervous.
Speaker 2:I see you have to move your face because you're like, what do I get at? No,
Speaker 1:I miss. God. It's okay. Okay, so six to Who misses in football a lot? All of the kickers.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It's six to seven currently.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:So this is my last shot, right? Yeah. So you win either way. All right. Okay.
Speaker 1:Well I guess that's true. But it's okay. We'll see how much I'm
Speaker 2:gonna win. That's so true. Yeah.
Speaker 1:You could win by more. Yeah. Is it going be a nail buyer or is it going to be like a blowout? Okay.
Speaker 2:All right. Ready? Yeah. Oh. Okay.
Speaker 2:One, two, three.
Speaker 1:Oh, is it over? Is it over? I literally this. Okay. Field goal.
Speaker 1:Okay. Okay. For all the marbles. One, two, three.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Good job. She's a backboard. 14 to six. Alright.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm not too surprised that you beat me at sport. So
Speaker 1:Well, this is such a fun game, Alex.
Speaker 2:Thanks for playing.
Speaker 1:Thank you for coming up with it.
Speaker 2:No problem. I'm glad I did. And then we're gonna and then it's gonna go into us Oh laughing my gosh, Mel, wasn't that so fun?
Speaker 1:That was so fun, what a great game.
Speaker 2:What a great game, that's crazy. Thanks for playing and I thanks for humoring
Speaker 1:am only doing this
Speaker 2:to you because you have three extra weeks to edit this. There are worse things I could do to you. But sorry, being my friend is one of them and you're stuck playing a game with me in person. I had to switch it up a little bit, you know?
Speaker 1:No. No. I mean, if you're gonna do it, let's do it on this one. That's for sure.
Speaker 2:Let's do it. Let's swap it up. Oh. Oh. Alright, Val.
Speaker 2:What are we watching next week?
Speaker 1:We are watching Descendants two.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm excited. I've seen it.
Speaker 1:Amazing. Well, this has been great. Yes.
Speaker 2:I love you, Val.
Speaker 1:I love you. I'll see you in a couple days. A couple days.
Speaker 2:Bye, Val.
Speaker 1:Bye, Al. This podcast was produced by me.
Speaker 2:And me. And it was
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