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Join brothers Ryan and Jason on The Worst of the Best Podcast as they tackle Oscar Best Picture winners! They dive into culturally huge films they've seen (like Rocky, The Godfather, Schindler's List, No Country for Old Men, Unforgiven) and ones they haven't (Casablanca, Gone With the Wind, Annie Hall, Midnight Cowboy), sharing why some feel heavy or dated, others timeless, and picking their personal "worst" from each list. From gritty 70s classics to epic fantasies and tough watches, it's a fun, honest chat on what makes an Oscar winner endure—or not. Perfect for movie buffs questioning Hollywood's picks!
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Join host Ryan Rebalkin and his rotating guest hosts on The Worst of the Best Podcast, where they dive into the flaws of the best in pop culture and more. Covering genres like films, music, food, true crime, historical events, celebrity culture, and quirky societal trends, this podcast delivers a humorous, irreverent critique of the finest’s shortcomings.
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[Music] welcome to the worst of the best podcast you wanted the best well they didn't
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freaking make it so here's what you get from Canada
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Ryan and Jason
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[Applause] [Music]
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welcome to the worst of the best podcast I'm your host and with me as always is my brother Jason how you doing I'm doing
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well thanks Ryan how are you doing well it's Oscar season if you could believe it do you feel the buzz in the air it's
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funny you said that I'm like you gotta be kidding me I thought you were joking but I guess you are no I'm not joking
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the ceremony I'm not sure when it is but it's usually like it's golden Globes around January but I think they've already been held this you know I admit
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with Co it's been a bit of a Gong Show for Awards in general for awards ceremonies because of the co
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restrictions and what have you and I think and a lot of people that I've spoken to just about entertainment in
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general TVs movies I think Co has exposed the fact yeah that Hollywood and
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entertainment really isn't the end all and be all a lot of people have just
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lost complete interest in Hollywood yeah when I was younger I really want say idolized but I I definitely got caught
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up in the glitz and Glamour the award ceremonies uh Oscar ceremonies I used to watch the Oscars and I enjoyed it like
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people would enjoy the Super Bowl I mean yeah we grew up in the same household so it was you know the one time of year
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where you got to see all your favorite stars in cinema it felt like a much
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bigger deal than it really does now like it's really low on the totem po of
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people's radar wonder if that has to do with a bit of I would say the internet I wonder if the internet's kind of exposed
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or oversaturated celebrity when we were younger to see us like we either saw
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them in an interview like on Johnny Carson or read about an interview with our celebrity or whatever whoever we
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were a fan of in the magazine and then saw them perform or in their movies so
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we never saw them like tweeting instagramming yes and and I think what
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is also exposed is how much we don't relate to the way that they behave and
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think yeah you know like oh that's what your view is on whatever you know topic
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is and you know whether it's political or or whatnot and it's just like oh yeah
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I'm not uh not too keen on that yeah I'm not I don't really care the about the
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agenda that you seem to be pushing on on me because of the bubble that a lot of these actors have lived in they think
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that their opinion is much more important than it really is to the general public and so they've exposed
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themselves as being out of touch I think that's a lot of it too you're right the saturation there's no like mystery to
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them anymore right Mr and I think also their exposure as to what was mysterious
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about them is now on full display we're not really interested in that individual as we once were all right so that's a
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great build up as we discuss we to advertise uh our own
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podcast on that note first off let me just say this is a suggestion from one of our top listeners in the United
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States that's our brother Dion I I guess he listens to our show I suspect he does yeah I don't think I've gotten any
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feedback he sends suggestions if that makes sense so maybe he doesn't listen he just sees our topics and thinks uh
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maybe this would make a good topic I'm just show he doesn't listen because he doesn't like the topics we bring up
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that's true yeah so he said why do you guys do Oscar winning films so what
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Jason and I did is we scoured the internet and we put together in a
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scientific fashion movies with the highest IMDb rating highest user rating
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highest Rotten Tomatoes rating all those things put them together films that are are in the 90y year history of the
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Oscars we couldn't pick old 90 films that would have been ridiculous so we put together 25 films but of course
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Jason and I haven't seen the same film so out of this scientific effort of films that we think are very popular in
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nature of like if I tell you the title you'll be like oh yeah that film because there's some Oscar winners that if I
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told you the title you'd be like what what is that film but I think every every film that we mentioned in this episode people our listeners and you
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Jason and I will know oh I've heard of that film I know the importance of that film even if we haven't seen it so Jason
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has a list of movies that he has seen and has not and I have a list of movies that I have seen and I have not and of
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course the majority of them I think Jason and I be in the same household about the same age we're going to probably have very similar Have and Have
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Not scenes and how this is going to work is we're going to pick the worst film that we like the least from the scene
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and then we're going to pick from the not seen which film we feel were the least excited to see if we had to watch
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the ones we haven't seen so which one is the worst just by our knowledge or desire whatever whatever the reasons
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personal of course of why we would pick that one it's the last one I'd want to watch on the films that I have not seen
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so I think that makes sense what do you think yeah it's pretty clear it'll become clear as we do the podcast yeah I
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think so as we move forward yeah let's do it okay so the first one is and I'll
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start with my list and not that my list is more important than Jason's but I'll just kind of run it my list and Jason you'll say I have or have not seen it
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and we'll just go from there so from the scene list we'll start with the scene first the deer hunter 1978 the deer
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hunter yeah seen it okay this is the Vietnam drama that is not a very uplifting film FM but it did strike a
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chord with the academy this is one of the earlier Vietnam films you think about this came out in 78 so this wasn't
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much after the conflict itself in Vietnam it is a very haunting film it
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has a very long beginning in fact one of the criticisms maybe people have of this film is the big wedding and it takes a
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long time for kind of obviously the action but I think that's important to see the lives of these characters before
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they go off to War and what it does to them after War but that Russia will let scene Jason that whole movie I mean it's been
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years I'm not going to pretend I I'm Encyclopedia of this movie This is the
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scene this is the scene in the movie and this is an iconic movie moment and it is
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what everybody will remember about this movie it was intense stressful and
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brutal because you know the gun's going to go off on one of those characters at some point it does and it's brutal
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Robert dairo Peak Performance this 70s and ' 80s dairo acting of course is just amazing and this is Peak Robert dairo
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and uh just talking about it now with you it's something I want to revisit again shortly but yeah Deer Hunter 1978
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won best pitcher kind of a brave choice to win best pitcher yeah especially considering how close it still was fresh
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in people's mind yeah because Vietnam had not finished that much ago in the past Unforgiven 1992 is Unforgiven yeah
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I've seen it I saw it in the theaters did you watch in the theaters or do you remember or recall I believe I did yeah
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I think this was definitely if it wasn't the first clinty s film I saw in the theaters it was one of the first because Clint had a bit of a old and he's still
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alive today in his 90s it's amazing cuz when this film came out in ' 92 this film came out 30 years ago so here here
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he is this aging action star so to speak he's only 60 which is kind of like 60 whatever barely 60 when he made this
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film but it seems like he's when I saw this as a teenager it seemed like he was what he is now 90
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I don't know if that makes sense well what's funny is that the you know the last 30 years of his career starting
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with Unforgiven is that he's always been this aging character of a bygone era and
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so yeah like 60 the way that they present him even in the movie The Very beginnings of the movie him on the farm
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with his kids he's he's kind of lost his touch with the weapon and with his horse
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riding abilities he he's Beyond his better years
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but you're right he's only 60 give yeah give or take a year because I think he's 9 now or something yeah so
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it's like the way that people you know I grew up with the ruing stones they were always old yeah always old they're
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making fun of the ring stones age 30 years ago but they're still doing it it's weird ex exactly so good for Clint
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you have to admire his work ethic his uh direction of films he's he's incredible
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director this film I love westerns and I love this film this film turned Western on their head the same way maybe
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Spider-Man turned you know comic book movies on its head back in the early 2000s this turned Western on his head a
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little bit it gave it that dark gritty and I think Western haven't been the same since I think since this film Western have come back and they've never
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left and they've been gritty ever since he's an aoral character like he's the hero of the show but he's got his flaws
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and he's he's a flawed character and of course Morgan Freeman's performan is in it is amazing in it and Jean Hackman boy
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Jee Hackman won an actor it's a great cast you know Jean Hackman won an
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Academy for his performance in this as a Best Supporting Actor oh yeah that's right yeah I kind of wish there have
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been more or are more westerns because I do enjoy a good
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Western as well can I recommend one then to you they probably in our listeners probably haven't seen underrated and
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probably underseen Kevin Costner is open range no yeah never even heard of it incredible film really it's it's the
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same vein as I'm forgiven if you like Unforgiven and speaking of Kevin cner he's had a research in his career with
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the TV show Yellowstone that's on Amazon here in Canada Amazon Prime if you haven't seen it it is the best TV show
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ever and Kevin Cosner is yeah no it really is as good as people are saying it's amazing amazing performance Kevin
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Cosner is Peak form he's a fan of westerns himself he directed open range I believe with Robert devals in it and
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it's an incredible Western okay yeah under scene and I would recommend that and Al recommend yo and Jason seriously
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it's Becky and I it's it's our favorite TV show it's amazing oh okay 2016's
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Moonlight I have not seen it okay so I have seen it I try to watch most best
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pitchure winners I think this is why I saw this film I think this was the famous was this the one where they
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accidentally named one film The Winner and then this was actually the winner I think it was like uh la la land or
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something like that one best picture but they read the wrong name and they came back out and said no sorry it was Moonlight that won yeah so I think
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that's what happened during this ceremony but it's a very tough watch in the sense it's not a it's not a
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feel-good movie a lot of Oscar winners actually aren't feel good at films which I find interesting I have no idea what
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this movie is about it doesn't ring a bell at all it there's like three different storylines in the in the main
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character's life you have three different actors playing the same character you would think it'd be kind
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of a tonal mess regarding the flow of the film but it's actually not it's about the main actor or the main
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character who is struggling with his sexuality and his strain relationship with his mother it's a really powerful
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film in many ways it really is a very powerful film it's one of those films where yes I'm glad I saw it but I don't think I'm going to have to rewatch it
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over and over it's a good journey well done film and and yeah very deserving of best picture okay the hurt locker 2009
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yeah I've seen it so of course before Jeremy rener played Hawkeye he played
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William James and Katherine Bigalow who is the ex-wife of James Cameron in The Hurt Locker this was a great show that
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opening sequence when they're disarming the bomb at the beginning stressful yeah similar to like the the Russian Roulette
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scene in the deer hunter yeah yeah yeah another very tense kind of very tense I
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like Jeremy rener and I wish he did more roles that are like this this is really
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his breakout movie obviously like I you know I don't know if I knew of him before this kind of only know of him
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because of the his Hawkeye role you're absolutely right he's been very busy in
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films throughout his career he was a really great in the town with Ben Affleck yep but he is actually on
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television Jason in his show called mayor of Kingstown and speaking of is getting ra reviews of course he's got
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his own Hawkeye on on Disney plus but the mayor Kingstown speaking of ystone
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it's actually created by the same guy that created Yellowstone okay T his name
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is Taylor Sheridan he's just on a rooll right now with TV shows and movies and writing so he created yell Stone he also
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created this other one so Jeremy rener is the star mayor King sound it's on my ceue to watch because I'm following
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Taylor Sheridan's career he writes every episode that he creates it's amazing is he the new JJ Abrams I think so in that
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sense he's the hot yeah the hot writer right now yeah so Jeremy render is doing very well for himself right now the her
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locker I mean any other thoughts about that movie it's one that I've seen a couple times so it's one of those movies
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where it's pretty intense incredible action sequences topical for its own time due to the conflict out east first
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female winner for directors if you can believe it 2009 was already 12 13 years ago speaking of movies you know we talk
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about you know there's a lot of Vietnam movies not as many the war in Iraq type
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movies right this was one of those first to break that ground to breach the topic
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of the war in Iraq and the impact it has on PTSD of solders and the impact it has
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on them and their relationships and Etc agree yeah this was kind of In the Heat of it it's controversial it was a
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polarizing topic topical yeah topical release things were still happening in this movies out yeah you got soldiers
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watching this while they're out there yeah No Country for Old Men 2007 yeah
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seen that I love this movie yeah it's a it's such a great movie The Corn
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Brothers they have a lot of great films I mean it goes without saying I'm not saying anything revolutionary here but they really are very talented Duo of a
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writer directors they have such a quirky I don't know how to describe it unique
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way of telling stories Josh Brolin's amazing in this of course heavy arbar Dem as a bolt gun wielding psychopath
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what a what a character that guy was and what a choice of weapon oh I know the
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the Bol gun yeah that kills cattle yeah also kills people appar it kills people
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pretty effectively too go fig it can puncture a cow skull can also do the same to a human skull yeah he's such
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a creepy menacing villain it's it's incredible Josh broland with the money
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situation it's it's just really what a great of course uh Tom Le Jones playing classic Tomy Jones and yeah just a
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gritty classic and a kind of a Western in its own right yeah a more modern setting but yeah it is got the Western
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feel or theme and even the S characters like that grocery store scene yeah what a what a yeah what a iconic scene as
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well for sure that interaction 1976 Jason Rocky you you ever seen this one
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once or twice I'm not as well versed in it as you are but I've seen it a few
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times oh I know if anyone's listening to this podcast that listens to my Going the Distance the Rocket series podcast I
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don't have to say much more other than one best pitch in 76 a catapulted Sylvester Sloan's career he wrote the
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film it was the highest grossing film at the time breaking in two 225 million
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which Today Jason if so amount of tickets sold had this movie been released today with the same amount of tickets that were sold in 1976 it would
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have been a billion and a half film wow as you were talking about you know this catapulting Stallone into you know
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stardom because he wrote it acted in it and he put his whole life on the line as
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we know the backstory to him putting this movie on you know on the screen he
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capitalized on that more than many people do many people have an amazing
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Oscar winning Best Director best actor whatever it might be and you almost
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never hear of them again but he somehow was able to and today he's still a
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relevant household name and speaking of Taylor Sheridan again Jason the same guy
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guess he's actually creating a mafia TV show right now for cable TV and guess
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who he's gonna have Star as the mafia boss leader Stallone I'm going to say Stallone yeah good so excited so this
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writer guy Taylor Sheridan that I'm really excited about right now has nabs Stallone late in his career talking about Twilight career stuff to play an
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AG mafia boss that's awesome you'll perfect that character yeah I'm very
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excited forone yeah very few people Q Gooding Jr for an example hey he did
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Snow Dogs what are you talking about Jerry McGuire he went to to Toe with Tom
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Cruz in that movie is one an act best supporting actor and nothing really no
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from him since murder of crows it's so weird how these people
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can't just find a way to keep it going well I'll tell you how Stallone's done it because he's got a creative brain
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he's created his own success with Rocky ramble The Expendables and some of these actors no offense to them some of them
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can pick good films but Stone's been able to kind of keep his own career going by being creative and making his
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own films and right that's a very good that's a very good point yeah key continues to create his own success
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whereas people other most others rely on others on others give yeah Lord of the
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Rings 2003 Return of the King oh yeah yeah SE that going from Rocky and then
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Lord of the Rings those are my two top franchises of all time I love the Lord of the Rings franchises just as much if
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not just a little bit under uh Rocky now I don't know the Lord of the Rings lore in in Back stories the way I do with
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Rocky but I love these films I love the vision of Peter Jackson I saw all three films four to six times in the theaters
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each whoa yeah I bought the DVDs I bought the Blu-rays I watched every single extras on each one I've done the
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commentaries with even like the producers commentaries like I just I love these films I played the video
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games so I I totally nerd out with these uh both the films and the world I've read the books I was so happy in a
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selfish way that this one best picture and I was this truly the best film of
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2003 maybe maybe not I'm sure it's controversial but what's kind of cool this is the third film in the franchise
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but what what I think voters did is they honored the whole project yeah I agree I
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mean I can't recall I mean unless you have notes in front of you what they were up against I don't recall the top
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of my head no we don't do research on this show come on Jay come on isn't that obvious probably but yeah I don't recall
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either and actually and it doesn't really matter it doesn't matter because it was an honor to all three and maybe
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now looking back hindsight being 2020 maybe they didn't give Oscars to the other two in preparation for the
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third relas I think so I think you're right J because they got released one year after another they were like boom
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boom boom but every year Lord of the Rings was nominated for I believe it was almost every year was nominated for best
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pitcher and or whatever but this year they were nominated for 13 ecademy Wars I think they won all but one of them so
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they swept so it's almost like the academy was like you said Jay they were waiting like we'll give it to you but even though nominated every year for
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three years in a row it was this film that all of a sudden won it was like a sweep a massive undertaking yeah of
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filming and you know people know that they spent years in New Zealand putting these together back to back to back a
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huge sacrifice to put out a very high quality production I'm not really a like
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fantasy person is this considered fantasy yeah yeah this is definitely sorcery fantasy for sure yeah
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so I'm not this isn't really my genre but the story was captivating enough that I really enjoyed the films as well
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I have not seen them more than once each but I did enjoy a lot yeah I uh love
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these films and it's a rewatch that I'm going to do throughout my whole life and I've done it with my kids and Beautiful
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film holds up even today because Peter Jackson used a lot of practical effects he used a lot of like models and mini
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models which actually holds up over aging CGI exactly yeah 196 99's Midnight
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Cowboy I have not seen it I was wondering if you'd seen it this is one of those films where it's classic it's
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got I'm walking here as Dustin Hoffman yells at a New York City Cab when he it's about to cross the sidewalk that's
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where that comes from in that film this was the first movie at the time was it was rated nc1 17 or rated X equivalent
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of that today so it was the first film to win best pitchure to have such a high rating equivalent of an nc7 pitcher
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today now I've seen this and I granted it was 1969 so this sounds terrible to say that my modern day eyes I don't
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really I don't recall why it was so highly rated I think it was just maybe
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groundbreaking at the time if I remember correctly it falls the story of Joe Buck played by John Voit he leaves Texas for
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Bright Lights of the big city and he prends ratzel which was played by Hoffman but I think his character if I
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remember correctly was gay and I think that might have been why it was rated nc7 for 1969 I think it was just
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showcasing homosexuality or you know very openly and and the seediness of
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what they thought of it or there was a seediness to the film it's been a while since I've seen it but I think that's why it was rated the way it was at the
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time great to see Dustin Hoffman and John Voit in their Prime this was again 1969 so quite some years ago and it's
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always interesting to see what we consider older actors today in their younger roles yeah I don't have much to add yeah figured as much there'll be a
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couple of those where we one has seen and the other one hasn't okay another older film by agan actor who's pretty
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much retired now One Flew Over The cucus Nest yeah I've seen that yeah this was uh Jack Nicholson plays Randall McMurphy
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he's a wise cracken con artist who talks his way into ment institution to forgo a
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harsher prison term of course you got nurse ratchet you got the pre Doc Brown Christopher Lloyd playing a patient here
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it's fun to see him those younger days this probably pre- taxi if not just before taxi oh
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yeah Alex so classic I've only seen this a couple times and I think I actually saw
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it for the first time I think it was high school I think it was just one of those you read the book saw the movie in high school type stuff yeah you know
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what was interesting maybe that kind of sticks out is just the situations people find themselves in within these type of
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Institutions some of the harsh realities of what people experience I know that's
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not really necessarily the whole point of the movie I find these not hard to watch I should say like that but it's
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hard to it's hard to enjoy watching people with mental problems on a whole film it's like look at me I'm hurting
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myself or I'm smacking my face or I'm this definitely plays into Jack Nicholson's scream Persona of being able
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to Jack when he's able to be full Jack Nicholson is it's always a treat to watch though yeah I agree Schindler's
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List 1993 I saw this in the theaters the time is of its release I guess I would have been 1718 when I saw this in the
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theaters of course you'd have to live under a rock to not know it's about how 600 people survived the Holocaust thanks
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to Oscar Schindler played by Liam n you know Steph Spiel himself I believe is Jewish himself of course so this was a
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passion project to the nth degree to tackle this very serious subject of Steph Spielberg before this was very
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much known for Jurassic Park the Indiana Jones films ET Jaws you know kind of the fun Blockbuster type films wasn't this
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his first really major serious topic to tackle I don't know about that but you
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know this is a movie you know that I have seen as well and I did not see it in the theater I saw it you know on
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video a few years afterwards right this is a tough topic the Holocaust is is a
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tough topic to uh Broach and to enjoy but an important story to tell obviously
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this is a movie I would suspect is probably should they talk about movies in schools I wouldn't be surprised if this is a movie that Junior High and
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high schools during history lessons probably teachers probably show their students at some point during the curriculum right yeah this not an easy
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watch I I saw in the theaters I remember just being like oof I felt and rightfully so like you're watching a
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masterpiece of film making but you leave feeling very depressed but you're just like oh my gosh the treatment of humans
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by the humans I you're just you're sickened by the fact that people could do this stuff to the I just don't get I I anyways you and I are and most people
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listening to the show of course can't understand how you could be cruel to people but I guess people just you know
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six million Jews were murdered and I just I don't understand it yeah it's unfathomable welld deserved obviously
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and I've never seen it since I saw it I've seen pieces here and there because I it's not a movie that I want to rewatch over and over again so I'm glad
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I saw it it's a piece of history and feel it's that's word yeah heavy yeah it's it's heavy but when I was sailing
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on my last deployment this was actually pling in the U in the mess that I eatting and stuff so this was on the big
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screen TV people were watching it so I watched a little bit of it just to remind myself as I was watching it I was
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like well this is a from a technical point of view it really holds up the black and white holds up I that was a
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very smart choice to do a black and white yes it just looks like it was filmed yesterday I can't believe it's
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almost 30 years old again another movie Jay nearing its 30 year mark that's unbelievable yeah we're getting
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old it just seems it was just out a couple years ago 30 years or 29 years ago was released oh boy now the other
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thing is is not just an amazing movie but it's an amazing story storytelling
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the reluctant hero Oscar all right now I just put these two together but it's funny that both both these one best
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pitcher I keep forgetting that The Godfather and The Godfather Part Two both best pitcher winners have you seen
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the Godfather series I have I don't have quite the emotional attachment to them
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as others do maybe I saw them when I was a touch too young to really appreciate all that was going on I mean The
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Godfather came out in 72 right well yeah they came out before we were born you know then 74 you know I was a year old
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and maybe by the time that they were on video I don't know if I completely
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appreciated the cultural impact that they had when they were released that's fair I'm the same way of course they
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came up both came up before I was born I was born in 75 but being a bit of a film geek I love movies I knew that I
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couldn't say that I like movies without seeing these films and I love Mafia films so I actually was a fan of Mafia
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mop films before I even saw these films but ironically the films that I enjoyed before seen this one this was the
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beginning you know the Godfather was the the same way The Unforgiven had changed westerns the Godfathers changed mob
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films they never been the same in a good way from The Sopranos of course they even talk about Godfather on The
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Sopranos TV show The Godfather is the Godfather of mafia movies and M films
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sure and Marlon br's performance is just absolutely amazing it's just such a great film making he put the cotton in
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his mouth as like gets how he does his motions he's got cotton in his mouth and amazing stuff
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that improvised dialogue that he gives leave the gun take the canoli it's great stuff and Marlon Brando is a character
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within himself yes it's been imitated never replicated as they say I think the closest we ever got to this kind of
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standard of mob film was good Fellas directed by Martin scorsi right which did not win best pitcher at the time
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yeah and that's a movie I'm more familiar with the incredible films and definitely worth best pictures it's just
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great that a sequel the sequel won best picture as well many people say the sequel is even better than the first film uh I tend to agree
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performance that yeah good stuff no argument there I don't think that will get our worst Choice all right next one
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science of the Lambs you ever heard of this one this is actually one movie I have seen probably two or about three or four times yeah this started my Jodie
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Foster Crush so I was 15 when this came out and I know she's does not swing my way which is fine I love Jodie Foster
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I've been a fan of hers ever since this film I went back as a 15-year-old kid I I went to the video store Jay by her
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house there on Jefferson Avenue I went to the video store and I rented every Jodie Foster film I could find this was
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before the internet so I had to get I had to buy like a Leonard Molton movie book to see all the films that she'd been in all pre- internet stuff guys
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what you had to do I just went on a Jodie Foster binge I love her to this day I think she's a fascinating woman
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very intelligent very classy I just love everything about her this is peak of course Jodi she looks fantastic a
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well-deserved win for her for best actress and Anthony Hopkins of course breakout role for him later in his career playing Hannibal Lector this is
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such a fun film these are two actors head-to-head type thing top of their
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game for sure both of them creepy thrilling everything you love in a movie
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and yeah and also just to go back what's funny is Anthony Hopkins later in his career this is 1990 yeah so this is
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another thing where he seemed old but boy he looks young yeah I know it's funny you to watch the movie today he
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looks young yeah he's old in this film Jay he's old yeah but now it's we're inching closer to his age in this film
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actually what is his age in this movie yeah I'm curious now what's your guest I
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don't know what he is now so this came out 32 years ago you know what's funny I bet you he's our AG I bet you he oh no
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is he 5 54 I'm gonna I'm gonna say he's I'm gonna say he's 49 no drum roll
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please he's 84 right now Jay this came out 32 years ago so he was 52 okay I was
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off by three what did you guess I said 54 okay I was just a little bit older
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than you Jay he three and a half years old older than me and we thought he was old I hope I
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age better than he did in this movie but anyway yeah incredible film really is an
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incredible movie that's one you can watch today and it's it's just as thrilling and crazy and fun yeah it's an
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ageless film m is the couple the Wardrobe of the actors it's an angel film especially the uh wardrobe of the
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guy in in that pit yeah his what Buffalo Bill was it
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Buffalo Bill yeah Buffalo Bill his wardrobe aged yeah he wore his birthday suit for much of it h other people's
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birthday suits he wore other people's birthday suits that's awesome now have you ever seen Lawrence
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of Arabia yes me too yes this is one that you would have probably Seen On TV
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I'm pretty sure I've seen it on TV okay like one of those like marathon when
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movies used to be on TV turn Classic Movies whatever yeah and what stood out to me is the amount of people
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involved thousands of extras thousands how do you Wrangle that many people okay everyone quiet on the set because
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nowadays I mean even when I did see it originally it would have CGI would not have been a thing no so I wouldn't have
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ever thought CGI but I did think there's a lot of people involved in the making
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of this movie they did a lot of that kind of thing back then benur Cleopatra those big films of the day where they
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had to have all these Ten Commandments you had these thousands of extras running around bumping into each other
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impressive it's it's great movie Peter UL plays ta Lawrence balancing both
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arrogance and heartfelt Symphony for the people that the British are invading it's a long film but inspired people
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like Spielberg and George Lucas of course one worth seeing again you know as I get older I admit as I get older I
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kind of enjoy these older films and their lack of CGI and their big set
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nothing has hurt and helped Hollywood like CGI good point yeah it is a
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double-edged sword can show stories that we can't do without for example like you couldn't do the Harry Potter films
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almost how do you do Harry Potter how do you the Quidditch matches without yeah but how how did George Lucas do Star
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Wars yeah I know they just took their craft in a very different way and it forces them to tell the story yeah
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you're right it forces a different way and I think CGI can sometimes make storytelling lazy yes I agree that's
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what makes the Lord of the Rings movies so great because they did the mixture of CGI with practical that's why it works
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and that's why it will work long term yeah lot of these CGI movies don't age as well no make it as real as you can
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and use the CGI to kind of fill in the gaps but don't use the CGI to create everything yeah that's my list of the
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ones I've seen is there anything there that I hadn't seen that you've seen only one oh which one the Bridge on the River
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quad really you've seen that yeah that's another one that was on TV I've seen it a couple times on surprised okay all
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right speaking of Star Wars goodness was oh yeah you know this is a movie from 1957 I can't give you a massive rundown
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but well we created this list Jason that was actually one of the ones where I was like this is one I would like to see I like war movies this is World War II
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about the enslavement of Allied prisoners who are forced to build the Burma Railway so it exposes the truth
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behind Japanese prisoners of War camps so I would like to see that yeah so other than that the rest we haven't seen
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okay and the rest we'll talk about right now we both haven't seen 196 1's West size story this is that it's a musical
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isn't it is that a musical yes I think it is is that the one where they're snapping their fingers they're going
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against each other two gangs are snapping their fingers at each other in a snap off or whatever no idea okay you hear about it
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all the time right referenced step Spielberg he just directed the Remake yes I did know that and it didn't do
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very well I don't think I don't know if it did well or if it's revie oh I was going I was just about to ask was it
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released already yeah come and gone I think part of the come and go is the co issue and I don't know if it's streaming
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anywhere right now or how you can watch it or even how well it was reviewed or not interesting project for Mr Spielberg
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to do I guess but he can do whatever he wants at this point right amadas now this came out in ' 84 I hesitated seen I
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hadn't seen it but I'm pretty certain I haven't yes I think I've just seen enough Clips over the years that I feel
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like I have seen it but I don't believe I've seen it from beginning to end this is a bio pick of course of Wolf Gang
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amadas I haven't seen this film but the character deserves an updated biopic I
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don't know why I feel like I I'm sure maybe this film's great and all in one best picture but there's a part of me
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that feels like maybe I'd be interested in an updated miniseries or bile pick on
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the only thing I know about amadas is of course is that song amadas amadas rockby amadas remember that song oh for sure I
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know that song much more than I know anything about the movie yeah was directed by Miles Foreman who actually
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directed I believe he directed flu over the cuckoo nest as well two best pictures for that guy on the waterfront
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1954 another best piter with Marlon Brando because he did that Godfather of course now this is one I definitely want
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to see this won't be my worst of regarding the list I've not seen because I really would like to see some earlier
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Marlon brandle stuff this is about the real life story of the New Jersey whistleblower and the tale corruption on
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the docks so that's kind of interesting this is Marlin's one of his biggest roles right I'll be I never heard of
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this oh really yeah and I'd just like to see that more younger Marlin Brando stuff back when he was the hunk that he
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was yeah more the hunk and less the chunk yeah this is one of his biggest
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roles before he became a big role sorry I'm surprised we both haven't seen
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this there's a couple here like okay we're going to be shamed by listeners 1939 is Gone With the Wind yeah I I've
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never seen it I'm not typically be drawn towards it's a musical right no no
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go I'm keeping that in no yeah please because I'm totally ignored on this I
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know people reference it all the time is there not song and dance it oh maybe they've done a musical from no it's
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actually the DAP it's adapted from a novel so the novel came first still to this day Jason the most successful box
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office movie with adjusted for inflation this movie has sold the most tickets out of every film ever more than Marvel any
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Marvel film this film has sold the most tickets in 1939 that's very cool yeah so
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no film has sold more tickets than Gone With the Wind it's the tale of romance and Injustice during the American Civil War I wonder how much time has passed
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between Gone With The Wind in the Civil War and Gone With The Wind in now that'd be an interesting math but it would be
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closer to now Civil War it was 1800s right but yeah but you think this is 1939 we're nearing the 100 year mark
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Ryan I think our our lack of both math and history is showing really strongly
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right now the Civil War ended in 1865 minus 1939 7 no Jay 74 years yes gone
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from the end of the Civil War to this movie was 74 years man A lot can happen
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in a short period of time yeah so there we go we're not as bad as we thought so 74 years passed and then this film was
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released right okay so 1939 you think they would have released it sooner but they just didn't have the filming
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technology so 1939 minus 20 22 83 years
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so it's been longer wow stand yourself corrected Jason I do but again my math
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skills my lack of understanding history this was long before Television TV
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movies so yeah Civil War I'm thinking like technological I'm envisioning what
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they had technologically seems so behind the ability to have film film yeah so
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it's that crazy so more time has passed now Jay between the release of this film than the rele this film The Civil War
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ending and starting quite frankly wow it's like one of those brain exercises
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where they say the iPhone is closer to Cleopatra than Cleopatra was to when the
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pyramids were made Oh weird I know that's kind of stuff gets weird ah very
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very interesting even earlier film than gon the wind Jason was 1934 As It Happened One Night okay I'm not familiar
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with this one it kind of paved the way for the modern romantic comedy okay it took the conventions of the post-
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Depression era when women were in pursuit of Financial Security and twist them into something Fresh So It Happened
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One Night has been redone in many different ways throughout the years of course like most of these films had been
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I want to say ripped off but these early films had the advantage of being the first from The Godfather to Gone With
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the Wind all this stuff kind of setting the path of future films It Happened One Night I I believe it has been remade or
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redone in many ways almost every romantic comedy are always just repackaged right story lines this is the
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Godfather of the romantic comedy it might be actually an interesting one to check out I agree I would be interesting
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seeing the idea of the first romantic comedy and one best pitchure which is quite interesting those early days of the best pitcher very early days yeah
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1960 the apartment another comedy winning best picture a lot of comedies in these early days winning best picture
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versus the depressing films of today this had Jack Lemon and Shirley mlan
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very young looking Shirley mlan here she's pretty she's very pretty absolutely apparently it was a game
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changer back in the day it was of what Hollywood could get away with so Jack Lemon plays Baxter who is an insurance
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agent who lets his office PS use his apartment to entertain their Mistresses while all the while struggling to find
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love himself so he had a bachelor pad that he he loaned out to his guy friends to get busy with their girlfriends I
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guess they didn't have places that that they could be alone that's weird they didn't want to have their receipts for the hotel I guess so found out so I
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guess um shiry mlan plays a elevator operator maybe she she guess she lives in the apartment building so she's
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taking these guys up and down in the room and Jack Lemon Falls for her I guess that's interesting yeah that is a
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very interesting story now this next one again I'm surprised I haven't seen it's
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one that I know I got to see I have to watch speaking of Jee Hackman and I'm surprised you haven't either and people are like the French Connection it's I
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mean I've heard so much about it I've heard is Jean Hackman's best performance it it's the beginning of that gritty you
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know 1970s film making and heroin being introduced in the films now and dirty
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cops and just that early gritty film making this is like the early days here I mean it's been in the background of my
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mind as to as movie I mean 71 still couple years before I was even born
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right but it is where Jean Hackman really broke out and was acting chops
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for everybody to see but it's just not one that I've seen myself and that's another storyline that's been done a
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thousand different ways yeah yeah yeah this is another sets into motion that cop gritty drama type stuff absolutely
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and the War on Drugs 1977 a romantic comedy Annie Hall Woody Allen's film
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back in his peak of his career his Heyday I've seen a few Woody Allen films I actually went through I guess it was
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like the late 90s early 2000s I kind of went through this video store binging I rented a lot of Woody Allen stuff but I
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don't think I did any Hall so it's funny that I have it on my not scene CU I don't recall that I've seen it but I did
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go on a bit of a Woody Allen binge if that's my answer to well this
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is before he slept with the stepdaughter I don't think he adopted her yet in 1977 but so Diane Keon plays an Hall in this
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film and it's interesting because she was in the Best Picture Winner Godfather one and two and then this one as well so
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she's been in a few Best Picture winners herself and she's good she's actually very good I enjoy Diane Keaton when I
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see her movies I find her very easy to watch very very good actress I have nothing really to add other than it's a
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movie that has been associated with Woody Allen and that's about all I know 1952 All About Eve I know I've heard
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this title Stars Betty Davis Margot Channing but I don't know anything about
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this film who's that guy in that picture is that like a young Steven Seagal yeah I think it's Stars young Steven Seagal
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now I gotta watch it I guess it stars these two actresses and they play characters who are flung together in the
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Timeless story about our resistance to Growing Old and they don't look old in this film you know I've seen this
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picture here actually feel like I have seen portions of it on TV oh it'd be one of those on Turner Classic Movies or
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whatever that's one I wouldn't mind seeing I don't know I haven't decided yet now last but not least and I'm
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people are going to be like are you kidding me you two that's fine they can 1943 is Casablanca or cablanca however
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you want to pronounce it it's got romance it's a thriller it's a war torn actioner Humphrey Bogart and and ingred
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Bergman two lovers who can't be together I have not seen this I've seen portions of this TV again but of all the bars of
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all the places is that the one of all the bars of all the you know we met here's looking at you kid that was that one too yeah I think there's those two
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lines and mistakenly played against Sam which did not come from this film but a lot of people credit that part to this
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film but I think his character humpy Bart's character does tell somebody to play something or do something but
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anyways yeah I haven't seen this film and think I actually started to watch it one day and or I knew I was going to
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have to watch this and I kind of put this up there with one that I have to definitely watch it's considered to be
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what it is right one of the greatest movies ever made really do you think you'll ever watch this one day I very
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well could probably should just as far as understanding classical movies and
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the impact that these type of movies have had on film and the film industry and why would it have been a best Oscar
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winning movie it intrigues me all right all right so that is the 25 films that we have and have not seen that are Best
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Picture winners that are culturally and critically of the 90 films that have one
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best picture we felt were worth talking about of the seing films that one best
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picture that you've seen which one is the worst for you I'm G to have to pick One Flew Over the Cougar's Nest it's
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just not a movie that I would care to see again I don't think it has aged very well in my memory I haven't seen any of
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these movies and years but I don't think it's aged particularly well it's not scenes that I would want to see like how
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you kind of mentioned earlier I don't want to see people started with mental illness and slob into the mouth yeah and
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all those things and it's it's not it's not something I want to enjoy or make
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light of or whatever it's not of an interest for me most of these other
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movies you know if I had time would enjoy watching again all right so for me
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for the ones that I've seen as well I'm pretty close with you on that and your reasoning is very sound on that film but there's one that almost for the same
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reasons just even when I saw it I was like I don't know if I'm enjoying this it's been so long but I did watch it as
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an adult there's a reason why I've never gone back to it and that's Midnight Cowboy and 1969's Midnight Cowboy it's
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an interesting to watch and I almost would recommend if you haven't seen it go ahead and watch the first NC 17
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pitcher winner to win best pitcher it's so it's interesting piece of History if that makes sense but the characters and
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the storyline didn't draw me in you got movies like you know of course Rocky No Country for Old Men the Godfathers like
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that's what I mean I'm just like The Godfather part one was only three years after this film so you just got that level just is a different level film of
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this list Midnight Cowboy if I had to re-watch all these again Midnight Cowboy would be the last one that would would
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rewatch if you had not seen that or if that wasn't on the list would you have
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picked one flu over the cucko nest one flu over the cucko nest would not have been that choice however it would have
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been Moonlight and the reason why Moonlight is because it's a hard watch in many ways to see the struggles of
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this individual and it's just I recall it being I don't even remember now but I don't think it's a feel-good film in the
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sense I don't know if it's exciting I could watch The Unforgiven a million times because it's exciting its own way
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or The Hurt Locker again with moonlight it's the rewatchability doesn't take away from its technical or acting that's
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in the film it's amazing and that right but the rewatchability factor is pretty down okay yeah okay so for our not scene
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this will be a little interesting so this is basically you were given the task Jason you have to watch all these
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films you haven't seen them Jason but now you have to but I'll give you one that you don't have to watch which one
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will you not watch any hole I figured I've seen a couple portions or
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chunks of his movies with I do not relate to his storytelling at all he's
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got a weird Cadence to his of dialogue that he does in all of his films so it's kind of like if you don't like quent
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Tarantino has a rhythm to his films right so sort does so does Woody Allen and Woody Allen has been made famous for
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that Rhythm so either you get the Rhythm like the Rhythm like the way he talks he
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talks it's weird I you know he does that throughout all that drives me just as
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you as do that drives me CRA I I I I he does that
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in all of his films and so I'm with you Jason it's Annie Hall good for whatever
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reason Woody Allen is an esteemed filmmaker uh good for Woody all these other ones as I look at the list they're
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actually legitimately ones I would wouldn't have mind seeing at all so yeah some of these older ones you know from
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the 30s the story is kind of intriguing to see how they would have told that
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story back in the day see that piece oft it's more compelling than anything that Woody Allen
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just all right thank you everyone thanks for joining us remember in front of every Silver Lining there's a cloud and
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today it was for Ryan it was Midnight Cowboy and Annie Hall and for Jason One
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Flew Over the Cougar's nest and Annie Hall all right thanks for listening everyone thanks for joining
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