The idea behind the Mini Challenge CLUBSPORT championship is for MINI racers to enjoy a close competitive series whilst keeping costs low, making the series ideal for amateur drivers with a limited budget.
The idea behind this monthly talk show is to provide a fun community show where we all come together and enable the racers and business partners to gain extra exposure, with guests on the live shows rotating around the partners and drivers, and anyone else involved in the championship. The show is designed to be light and fun, and will also enable us to promote upcoming activities and discuss those that have already happened. Make sure you tune in to the live shows on YouTube and Facebook, and your comments/questions added during the live shows can even be put up on screen (along with your profile name and photo) and answered live in the interactive episodes. But this podcast also enables you to listen back to the shows whilst driving, walking, or working out!! (or in the pub...)
Good evening.
Welcome to episode... It is episode two,
but it's the first one that
we've really gone live with
this because the guys
bailed out the first time
on me and we had it recorded.
I'm going to bring out one of the main men,
Rob Austin,
from Mini Challenge Club Sport.
Rob, you went easy episode one,
didn't you?
We launched it with a recorded show,
but we're now live, mate.
No swearing, all right?
No comment.
Yeah.
How are you, mate?
I would have been happy to do it live.
But I think all the other
boys were a little bit nervous,
weren't they?
Of you, probably, weren't they?
Yeah, yeah.
Now that we've got 18 people
watching this evening,
I think they'll be really nervous, though,
if I'm honest.
And there'll be even more.
Pile in, guys.
Make sure you share it.
Get it wide.
This is a great opportunity
to catch up on the races.
to speak to some of the key characters,
both from behind the
steering wheel and partners
and all those kind of things,
and to really get excited about it,
plus giving everybody an
opportunity to promote
everybody that helps them
do what they do and things like that.
But also, Rob,
I know your big remit is to
have a bit of fun with this as well.
I think it's all about fun, isn't it?
I mean, life is so difficult these days.
We take things so seriously.
Even our racing we take really seriously,
but we need to have a bit of fun,
don't we?
A hundred percent.
That's why.
As to be expected.
What are you going to do for
the second half of the show?
The current Mrs. Dawes has got home,
so she'll keep me topped up.
That's fine.
No, I mean, it's, you know,
it's really about taking
the championship to the
highest level that we can
at club sport level.
You know, we want to be the best.
We've had two fantastic years coming,
you know,
almost finished the second year now.
and we just tom and I and
glenn we just want to
really bring in as much as
we can that's a little bit
different a little bit
sparky keeps people engaged
and um helps it grow and I
think that we're we're the
thing is we're always
learning and there's always
new things I mean when
you've got you know you
can't teach old dogs new
tricks and hence the reason
why we're playing around with this
Exactly.
And this is what we can see.
What you're going to find
tonight is we've got a
whole host of guests.
It's a busy show.
Thanks for that, Rob and Tom.
You've really thrown a lot
of people at me for this one.
No, you haven't.
They can hear that.
So I'm confirming that's not the case.
But no, it's going to be a great show.
Some key characters from the
Donington Park round really
is the essence.
But I'm delighted to say
that we've also got Ryan from Airtek,
one of the key partners,
multi-year partners of the
Mini Challenge Club Sport Championship.
um so we'll catch up with
with ryan and find out all
about air tech we're going
to find out from andy and
ollie on the cooper class
we've got charlie and zach
from the r53s we've got jamie
Hopefully we'll be back.
His lad's playing football at the moment,
but hopefully we'll be back on the R56.
I know that doesn't include everyone,
but anybody watching going,
why aren't I on?
Because we can only have so
many at a time.
So make sure you get your
name down because we'll get
you in future episodes
because the plan is we'll
be doing an episode every month.
And it gives us the opportunity, Rob,
to come together as a community,
doesn't it?
And have some fun together
whilst looking back and
looking forward at the
championship as well.
Yeah, I think the thing is that, you know,
first and foremost,
we want to get all the drivers on.
That's what we've got to do.
We want to get all the partners on.
And that's the aim, I think,
to talk equally across the board.
And we've tried to do this
with our get-together on a
Saturday night.
Most people come along.
We get a great turnout,
maybe 90% plus come along
for a drink and a chat.
And it just eases the
situation after what can be
a pretty hectic times racing.
The racing this year has been intense,
but I'm pleased to say, you know,
we've had very few issues,
judicial issues, which has been, you know,
a feather in the cap of the
championship and a feather
in the cap of the drivers.
So they know how to play hard.
contact has been relatively
minimal compared with other
championships.
And, you know,
that's a key area of cost
because it's not cheap to go out racing.
Tom and I know this.
We've done it.
We spent years racing, as you well know,
Chris.
And part of it is we need to, you know,
minimize accident damage.
And that's been one of the things.
But we just want to bring in
the different characters.
We've got so many different characters,
so many people involved with this,
so many people enthusiastic about this.
And it would be great to
hear from them all.
Because then I can carry on
with doing whatever I'm doing,
like washing the car or whatever.
Because, as I've said to you all along,
I've only got a face for radio, really,
not TV.
Well, I didn't like to say,
but I still make a living,
even though I'm the same, mate.
But, yeah, for those who don't know,
is that, yes, I'm very privileged.
I get paid to commentate on motorsport,
travel the length and
breadth of the country and
sometimes Europe.
And it has included Rob
Austin and Tom Halliwell for many,
many years as well.
And we've had a good laugh.
I was very honoured when
they approached me with my company,
Visual PR,
to put something like this together.
So remember that while you're watching,
you can put comments and questions.
And I will jump in because a
couple have... Well, I say a couple...
Even in Paul Sawyer,
he put this comment on YouTube,
because I can tell from the symbol.
He's also put it on Facebook.
I can imagine him.
He's got a tablet and a
laptop and the TV and everything.
And he's got his mixing decks, of course,
hasn't he?
Yeah.
Evening, Paul.
Great to see you on.
Definitely another guest
that we'll get on at some point as well.
Put your comments,
put your questions wherever
you're watching them.
They'll come up and we'll be
able to see it.
Hello, Nigel from the Nicker Book,
Nicker Book at Alton Park.
Evening, Chris and Co.
Good to hear from you, Nigel.
So get your comments in
because this becomes, you know,
an interactive.
Paul's actually said,
I'm actually working on an
interview whilst listening.
rob I thought us men
couldn't multitask sorry
I'm paying my bills on my
mobile while I'm listening
as well so we really are we
are multitasking no I mean
it's yeah it's it's it's
great you know it's a good
opportunity this is nothing
for anyone to be nervous
about they've got to have
fun with it and and and
that's you know if you
can't have fun and don't
bother but uh yeah be
interesting to see if we
get who who does send any
questions through
Yeah, questions, comments,
anything like that.
Jason McGuinness.
Jason McGuinness,
one of our drivers from last year.
Brilliant.
He's just waved.
He's going to come out again, Jason.
Yes, make sure you get out, Jason.
Look, it's even grown even more.
And by the way, I can see in my green room,
Jamie Ring is in.
Evening, Jamie.
Good to see you here, mate.
He's back from football practice then.
Yeah, he is.
Hopefully he can hear us.
I can see you down in the camera below.
So he'll be on in due course as well.
He's just waved.
I'll be able to grass him up
if he ends up with a
drinking hand like the rest of us.
Hmm.
Right.
I think we need to get on with this show,
don't we, Rob?
Because we've got a lot of
people to speak to.
In which case, Rob,
I will see you a little bit later,
either for the regs bit or
at the end when we just
look at the championship
standings and preview Croft
a little bit as well.
Those that are watching,
please do keep the comments,
keep the questions coming in.
But Rob, I'll speak to you later, mate.
Coming up next,
we're going to speak about
the Cooper class where Andy
and Ollie had an absolute
humdinger of a battle or three.
Gentlemen,
I feel like I should be in the
middle of this one, actually.
Welcome to the show, guys.
Honestly, what I've got to say,
you guys put on an absolute
thoroughbred entertainment
at Donington Park.
Absolutely brilliant.
I'm going to start with you, Ollie,
purely because...
Well, you took race number one.
You took the victory.
First race with the Mini
Challenge Club Sport as well.
That was a nice way to start.
Well, good evening, everyone.
Yeah, it was a good one.
I did it... Well, halfway through,
I was like,
I'm never going to get past Andy.
And then I was eyeing him up
pretty much every lap on
the last chicane.
And then last lap, it happened.
And...
Yeah,
it was a pretty big part inside the car,
I would say that.
Well, I did.
I only watched that today on
the stream because, sadly,
I'm a disadvantage.
Where was I this weekend?
Oh, I was doing... No, I can't remember.
I was commentating somewhere
else when you guys were racing,
so I missed it.
But I have watched some of the stream,
and it was like, yeah, real move.
Andy, you from the other side, I mean,
that was... You've had
enough wins this year,
but that was not what you wanted to see.
Do you think so?
I think so.
I think so.
I was good, but yeah, fair play to Ollie.
He was on my case all race.
We had a real, real close battle.
And I just messed up last
year's game and he came sailing past.
So there you go.
You can't win them all, apparently.
I tried.
Well, let's be honest.
From my reckoning, well,
let me just double check to
make sure I'm getting this right,
is that you still won the
other two races after that,
just to make sure that you
stamped your authority back on.
Yeah, yeah,
the rest of the weekend was pretty good,
yeah.
I think,
I wasn't sure whether you'd
actually won the Cooper Championship,
but I think if you haven't,
you're on the cusp of it.
So you're going to Croft
with the intention to try
and get it wrapped up.
Does that mean you're still
going to go for the wins?
Always got to battle.
There's no point in being
there if you're not going to go for it.
So yeah, I think actually,
if I don't turn up,
I could do it on drop scores just now,
but there's no point in that, is there?
No.
Yeah,
of course you're going to be going
for it.
Absolutely.
Yeah, that's like Ollie says,
that's the boring way to do it.
And I think, especially, I mean, this year,
Andy, I mean,
I did cover you guys at my home circuit,
Castle Coombe, and again,
dishing up the entertainment.
And it's hard work
commentating on you guys
because there's so much
action going on up and down the whole,
you know, grid,
not just with the championships,
but the Cooper ones a bit
easier to see because you
guys do tend to congregate
and it's been entertaining
throughout the whole year.
yeah absolutely you know the
cupers are just they are
great fun to drive I know
they're not massive power
but you know you're
guaranteed a close race and
you know me dan neil and
ollie as well you know
we've had we've had some
real close races it's just
it's great you know you get
out the car you know you
know you've had a proper race brilliant
Before I move to Ollie with
the fact that it was his
first time showing,
I just want to just make sure, Andy,
for those of those that are
watching that might not know,
what is a Cooper Class Mini?
So the Cooper Class Mini is
pretty standard spec.
So you're allowed, like, dampers and,
you know, a few other mods.
But, you know, they're quite fancy.
They're a bit more strict on
the regulations,
so you can't do a lot with them.
Fairly standard cars, which is brilliant.
And normally aspirated as well.
Only about 130 horsepower,
so not over-fast,
but the racing's great and really good.
I guess for me that sort of
stands out as that is one of the,
I know that the mini
challenge club sport is
about being affordable to come racing in,
in what is kind of like a
mini touring car to some extent,
but the Cooper class
therefore must be the most
affordable of them.
Yeah, definitely.
You know, you,
you can't go crazy on mods or anything.
Like I said, there's,
it's only minimal things that you can do.
So,
So yeah, definitely.
I think out of all of them,
it's the most affordable
and it's guaranteed, you know,
you're guaranteed parity really.
So you can, you know,
someone's not going to have
something better than you
because you've all got the
same equipment pretty much.
So yeah, that's what I like about it.
Yeah, I agree with that.
Now, Oli,
let's go back because this was
your first mini challenge
club sport race.
What have you done previously?
So I started in the Saxos,
the junior championship.
And then from there,
I went straight into
Britcar and a Porsche GT3.
As you do.
That was a bit of a shock.
And then through COVID,
I sort of didn't do any racing.
And then Tom Halliwell died.
just told me to come and
have a go in the mini
challenge club sport.
And then I said, yeah, why not?
I'll come and see what it's like.
And it was pretty epic,
let's say it that way.
I love the fact I'm just
watching Tom in the green
room down at the bottom of
my screen and he suddenly
sat back with a beaming
chuckle on his face and his arms folded.
So he's laughing about it,
but he's also pretty
chuffed with that one as well.
I mean, to the point, Ollie,
that did I hear right that
there's now a car acquired
ready for next season?
I don't want to spoil it all,
but you'll probably see my
face a bit more next year, yeah.
Yeah.
I've sported it.
Apologies, mate.
Basically,
that's an amazing advert for the
championship to go that you
rock up once and you do it.
I mean,
did you really expect to be able to
rock up and sort of get the
three podiums?
No.
Just because I haven't been
racing for such a long time.
And yeah, just to get back into it.
But
I guess it didn't look too bad.
Oh, it didn't?
Because you're not even in the country,
are you?
No, I'm overseas.
I'm in Switzerland now.
So, yeah, one hour in front of you guys.
Oh, fair enough.
Fair enough.
Crikey.
And aren't they meat-tired?
You'll be even more tired
than if you're an amateur.
So speak to us from someone
that rocked up for the first time,
because I think I can
safely ask you this.
I know Andy's going to be a
massive advocate of the
paddock and the
championship and everything because,
you know, he's never present.
But ask someone who's just rocked up.
I've seen the paddock from
the commentator's side,
and it always seems really friendly.
People help each other.
There's the Saturday night get-together,
all of that kind of stuff.
Is that a true perception?
Yeah.
For me,
it was probably one of the best
experiences over the, whatever,
seven years of racing.
You just rock up.
Everyone's super nice.
Have a drink together.
Race together.
Have some close racing.
sweat your bollocks off I
lost probably five kilos
yeah and it's just it's
lovely and like loads of
people as well I mean yeah
really cool I like that I
mean andy I call you an ever-present but
that can't be a novelty that
wears off because you know
what you're going to get
each weekend someone summed
it up for me uh with with
motor racing in general is
that you spend miles more
time in a paddock than you
do out on circuit yeah
definitely I i think
honestly I know I know I've
done well this year but
this has been the best year
for me racing just off
track and on track you know
I've really enjoyed it
paddock's been great we've
got a great little team
you know,
run together with Norfolk cars and,
you know, we've had, um, friendly boys,
you know, friendly group together.
So yeah, it's been, you know,
just the whole paddock is a
great atmosphere.
You, you know, you can't, um,
you can't put price on that.
It's great.
No, agreed.
And that's why I safely
asked that question because
I kind of just from the
outside looked at it.
How do you feel about the
fact that it looks like
you're going to be getting, well,
which way?
I've got a point that way.
It looks like you're going
to be getting competition
from this guy next year.
Yeah, yeah, I love it.
Yeah, you know, we had some hard racing.
It was a good weekend.
I, you know, I've got a bit,
I was a bit stressed before
the weekend about Oli coming along.
you know,
in terms of the championship and
everything and, you know,
what's going to happen.
But, you know,
he pushed me hard and I loved it.
You know,
it was great to just dig deep and, yeah,
it was great.
Enjoyed it.
And I can imagine that
because you guys don't like
just going out on track days, i.e.
where there's no real competition.
You come out of it with a
massive smile when you've had a battle.
Definitely.
Yeah.
You know, if you win a race at a canter,
it's not the same feeling
as if you've had a real hard battle.
Never.
I was witness to that, Ollie, all right?
And really,
I guess what I'm doing here is
that from the commentator
slash fan slash spectator
perspective is that I'm
bigging up that this is a
tussle that we can look
forward to is that it just adds another
uh subplot to the whole
championship that is is
just something to really
look forward to in what is
already close racing uh I
mean ollie I get the
impression that these cars
are relatively forgiving
but you've really got to be
on it with them they are
like mini touring cars yeah
exactly and I would just say
for people that want to
start racing I mean it's
the best thing I mean I've
come from a Porsche that is
10 times as faster but the
racing was ridiculous I
mean from start to the end
is just you are properly on
it and if you're if you do
a mistake like I did in
race three then I came to third and then
eventually got back to second.
But it's, yeah,
no mistakes are allowed in this race.
Although it does show that
you don't need to lose absolute heart,
is that you can kind of
like wash it off and go again,
which I like as well to watch it.
Question then, Ollie,
that has been prompted to me is,
did your dad enjoy it?
I think he did.
I think he liked the first race.
I think that, yeah.
Like the whole of my family came over.
And yeah,
I think I did them pretty proud
on the first race.
And the second and third is
what's happened in motorsport.
Yeah.
And apparently you're entering Croft.
Is that right?
Oh, no, that's my dad.
Oh, your dad.
Sorry, Tom.
I didn't understand that comment.
He's put that in the thing.
Your dad's entering craft.
I like it.
So he's going to have a go as well.
So I've told him already
that the slipstream's
pretty good in these minis.
Yeah,
they're not the most aerodynamic of
things, are they?
So the slipstream's always
going to be pretty darn good.
Yep.
Although, Andy,
I get the impression it's
not quite to the level of
some things you see, I don't know,
like let's take, say,
Caterham's where you don't
want to be in the lead
until you've come out of
that final corner.
It's not quite that bad in the minis,
is it?
I know it was for you in race one,
but... Yeah.
No, I mean, probably at Donington,
it was worth a good half
second a lap easy at Donington.
But yeah, not as strong as the Caterham's,
but...
But, yeah, you've got to, you know,
I know in race three when I
made a mistake and I
dropped back and the
slipstream really helped me
to catch back up again, you know,
in race three.
So, yeah.
Yeah, so it's not excessive,
but it does mean that you
can have the patience and
you can kind of go, right,
that was a mistake.
Don't lose sleep.
Let's get on with it again
and work your way back up again.
Rob's stirring, by the way, Ollie.
He said that you're on
national service right now.
Yeah, I am.
So after this,
I'm going back into our bunker.
And that's why I was going to be at Croft.
And then I told my dad,
I can't take the days off.
So sadly,
that's my racing over for this year.
What does that mean?
So what do you do?
I work with the fighter jets.
So basically,
the security of the bunkers
where the jets stay.
wow that's cool that is cool
so I work with the F18s
they're a little bit
quicker than the minis
they're a little bit
quicker than most things
let's be honest that makes
complete sense how old are
you Oli sorry I should know
that twenty three
23 okay uh these youngsters
hey andy don't ask my age I
was I was leaving same as I
wasn't gonna offer mine
either I'm with you on that
andy don't you worry mate
we'll stick together on
that one um guys uh quickly
then uh andy before I wrap
up uh anybody you want to
say thank you on the
sponsorship side or family
side or anything like that
Yeah, really, you know,
a big thanks to Norfolk Cars.
You know,
ever since I started racing the minis,
I've been with those guys.
And, you know, Gary, who races the Clubman,
you know, he's prepped my car so well.
And Neil as well, you know,
we've raced together over the years.
We've had a few clashes over the years,
but, you know, it's all good.
And, yeah,
those guys have helped me out a lot.
So, yeah, big thanks to them, really.
Fabulous.
Ollie, same to you, mate.
Cheers.
Well, first thing, big thanks to Tom.
Yeah, he knows what it means.
And family that came over to
have a look and ski set, Wengen.
So if anyone wants to want
to come ski into where I live, come by,
I'll be there 24-7 basically.
And yeah, just Neil.
I never met him,
but I was able to use his
car and it was a good one.
It was a good one.
Absolutely.
Well, gentlemen,
thank you so much for joining us.
Don't forget, when I take you off screen,
wait until it fills up your
recording progress bar just
so that we can create
social clips from this show as well.
But, Oli, Andy, thank you so much.
Oli,
we look forward to seeing your dad at
Croft and you next year.
Andy, play it cool, Trig.
Play it cool at Croft.
I will.
see if you can secure the
championship that you've
worked hard for this year, mate.
And we shall hopefully speak
to you guys again very soon.
Yeah, look forward to it.
Cheers, Chris.
Thank you very much.
Cheers, Chris.
Thanks, guys.
Absolutely brilliant.
I've done it this way
because my transition is quite short.
So I just wanted to do it this way.
I've got to check my notes.
Right.
We're getting out.
So thank you to the drivers.
They're great to get an insight.
And that's the kind of thing
we're going to be getting
from the weekends and
everything that they do.
I would go even deeper,
but I've got so many guests.
I'm keeping it short, sharp, etc.,
We're now going to switch it
to one of the partners and a key partner,
it's fair to say,
in a multi-year partner
that have been involved in
not just supporting,
but creating as well.
So I'm delighted that we're
going to be bringing out
now Ryan Beedon from Airtek.
Evening, Ryan.
Have I spelt your surname right there?
You have, yes.
Yeah.
Phew.
It was only when I pressed
it that I suddenly realized
I typed that and I don't trust myself.
Welcome to the talk show, mate.
And it's great to speak to
you because Airtek are not just,
let's use the overused phrase, sponsor,
but very much a partner
because you guys have been
involved in designing key
parts of these cars.
Yeah.
It was quite a challenge for us, really.
So the Mini Challenge Club Sport itself,
it's one of those things
that's good fun racing,
but having the components
to work with those cars as
well is second to none, really.
And a lot of the cars was
running a few different
variations of rear wing.
And for us, we sort of looked at that.
We had an R56 ourself,
which obviously crosses
over to the R53 as well.
So for us to get into our
workshop and actually make
something that's usable and
works with the championship
was a no-brainer, really.
If we've got the facilities to do it,
why not?
The facilities and the
know-how and everything like that.
Because I was looking at your details,
because you guys started as
auto specialists back in the 90s,
which was simple aesthetics back then,
primarily for Ford.
Is that right?
Yeah, 100%, yeah.
or exclusively for Ford I'm
not sure whether it is yeah
so yeah back in the day it
was pretty much doing a lot
of shiny stuff and fancy
engine based stuff yeah
older Fords really
okay and then uh 20 sorry
2002 uh became air tech
motorsport to give it
obviously its full name I
know I've called you air
tech there um which went
into performance enhancing
cooling products and
solutions um which then
meant that you you actually
evolved into one of the
leading performance parts
manufacturers in the uk I
mean that's quite an evolution isn't it
Yeah, we'll take that.
Yeah, it grew very quick.
So I've been with the
company now for coming up 10 years.
And yeah, when we first started,
it was a lot of, like I say,
engine-based stuff, shiny stuff.
And then the Airtek
Motorsport brand was there,
but it wasn't as big,
nowhere near as big as what we are now.
It was running alongside the
Auto Specialist.
So we had all of our
intercoolers and our
radiators and whatnot
listed on Auto Specialist.
And then we see a bit of a
gap where it was,
why don't we launch Airtek
into its own brand?
And it started as Airtek
Cooling Solutions.
So it was literally intercoolers,
radiators, and that was pretty much it.
And then we started to break
more into doing intakes and
the odd quick shifts and whatnot.
And here we are today with rear wings,
you name it.
If we can do it, we can do it.
Yeah,
because I had the note that said...
I've just got to make sure
where did I put it.
You actually developed a
rear wing for all of the
competitors on the S-Class
and the rear wing for the
53s and 56s developed
largely with the
relationship with the Mini
Challenge... Was it Mini
Challenge Club Sport or
Mini Challenge as a whole?
Sorry, I should know that.
Mini Challenge Club Sport.
So that sort of suggests
that that's very much a
useful two-way relationship
that happened there then, which is cool.
100%, yeah.
We were approached by the
guys to have a look at
doing a rear wing and a front split-off,
which, yeah, it was a challenge.
It wasn't something that we couldn't do.
It was something that we
sort of looked at.
Our development guys, one of our guys,
he went to university and
studied aerodynamics with motorsports.
So making the rear wing for
us was a cool project.
He hadn't been with us too
long on the design side of things.
So having him get involved
in it and actually put what
he knows to the test.
was really good we went
through a few different
designs same with any
development some things
work some things don't at
first we had these massive
end plates that was
ginormous and the rear wing
was absolutely massive but
it's not going to work so
we went through a few
different design stages and
the rear wing it follows
the natural curves of the
boot line so it is fully
functional moves up and
down so you've got a few
different heights on it as
well but yeah making
something like that and
And doing that for the
championship just goes to
show how well we work with the guys.
Yeah,
because isn't next year a splitter
intended to be released for it?
That's right, yeah.
So we've gone for more of a
motorsport look with the front splitter,
where it's more of like a solid look,
whereas you see the typical
splitters follow the shape of the bumper.
So we've gone for more of a
race car design with it.
not just intended for race
cars by all means a lot of
our stuff we try and do it
you can put it on a road
car why not it's not just
intended for a race car so
it looks good but it and
it's functional for the
race car as well 100% yes
i did hear someone tell me
that uh by all accounts it
is going to have I I've
made a comment already
about that these minis are
very much like mini touring
cars and it's going to look
that way even more with
this front splitter it
should do um so it was we
sent some to the
championship to put on one
of the um I don't know what
you say the prototype cars
or one of the demonstrator
cars which is showcased at
one of the rounds um
think it was earlier this
year and we had loads of
good feedback loads of
people contacted the rear
wing looks awesome how can
I buy one and the front
splitter looks great when
they're going to be
available and and it all
goes into it so it takes
time but but we get there
and all the feedback that
we get is good feedback
again same in the front
splitter we hit a few
hiccups to that with
different designs of
bumpers um some fit only
fit the earlier um m14 not
the n18 and and vice versa
but but we got there in the end
You love a challenge, mate.
That's what it's all about.
It is.
Just quickly catching up on
a couple of comments.
Paul Peter says, geez,
why does Olly Wilmot look
like Ed Sheeran's
Could have just said Ed Sheeran,
not Ed Sheeran's sister.
Just looks like Ed Sheeran
would have been enough.
Our very own Glenn Copeland says evening.
Evening, Glenn.
We'll see you shortly.
I mean,
the guys and I will actually very
quickly in a second bring
out Tom and Rob just to
participate in this,
because I know that they
are massive advocates of of your work.
Not just support, but the relationship,
because those guys were
telling me about how you're
at most of the meets,
if not all of the meets, and you enjoy it,
and you also take that as
the feedback for the work
that you're going to do on stuff as well.
Yeah, definitely.
We try to get to as many events as we can.
Not always possible.
We're quite busy with other projects.
We don't get a lot of time to do...
racing ourselves where we go
and have a bit of fun on
track but when we do we can
and like I say as much as
we can being sponsors of
the event we try and get to
as many as we can and hand
out the trophies which
gives us a nice
relationship not just with
the championship but with
the drivers as well so we
get to have a chat with the
guys that are racing and
it's just a nice atmosphere
and I think as a sponsor
it's what you should be doing
I've always said that it's
the same as I say to drivers,
the amount of drivers that
do that horrible thing that
I've watched them do when
they tried to get sponsors and they go,
uh,
let me put your company name on so you
can pay for me to go and
have fun in a race car.
I'm paraphrasing,
but that's basically what
it translates to.
Um, whereas to be able to,
to sort of like have that
fun with everybody,
is is a key thing because
because you you want to
make something of it don't
you as sponsors as partners
it works both ways with
that as well though so as
title sponsors and and
being a sponsor of
something like this to
actually go and speak to
drivers in some ways I
would say oh that was bad
timing no oh there he is
hang on he's straight back
It was only brief.
That was brief, Ryan.
You're fine.
Yeah, back to what we were saying.
Having that relationship
with the championship and the drivers,
from our point of view,
it sort of makes people
want to push us as well.
We've dealt with other
championships and the sponsors.
You say to them, have you met this guy?
Have you met that guy?
No, I don't know who they are.
I don't know what they look like.
And it's nice for us to turn
up to those events and say, oh, hi,
you're from Airtek and
which it works.
It's nice to have that relationship.
I agree.
Paul Sawyer says,
so when is Ryan going to
enter the series?
Oh, never say never.
Have you got your racing license?
I haven't.
It's something that I've
said about doing for a while.
I actually own an F56 JCW Mini.
I know it's not one of the
cars in the series,
but there's always room to
try something else.
it's the same as they nag me
as well as the fact I've
got to get my race license
because they keep trying to
get me out the problem that
makes me nervous is that
the commentator tends to
have a target on their back
if they're suddenly out in
a racing car but they've
got long memories of things
I may have said on the mic
this is something that we
have discussed it before about um
about having our own car in
a championship.
And again,
it comes down to the same sort of thing.
We've had it before where people go, oh,
they're the sponsors,
but they're driving in a championship.
What if they go and win it?
Oh, this is fixed.
Yeah.
It swings around about things like that.
Yeah,
the coordinators aren't supposed to
race in it as well, allegedly,
and things like that.
But no, I think you should be.
Rob says you could sell that
car that you just mentioned
and buy a race car.
Yeah.
And you'd have tyres for the
whole season as well,
probably then as well.
That's it.
There's a deal to be done.
There is, there is.
Look, very quickly,
I'm not going to play the transition.
I'm going to bring these two
out because at the end of the day,
this is Tweedledee and
Tweedledum that organised
the championship.
And, sorry guys, couldn't resist it.
He's dumb and I'm genius.
Yeah.
But, you know, Tom, you know, Airtek,
clearly, you know,
a partner that you're proud of.
Oh, absolutely huge.
You know,
what Rob said earlier about what
we've achieved over the last two years,
that wouldn't have been
able to have done without Airtek at all.
Airtek came on very early doors,
committed very hard.
And to be fair, you know,
everybody who's racing our
grid wouldn't have been
able to do that without Airtek.
And then, you know,
we don't have sponsors in all honesty.
We don't have people who just put them,
you know,
to me a sponsor is something who
puts something in really
and gets something kind of back.
We have commercial partners,
so everybody benefits.
You know,
our competitors benefit because
we can then do things for
reduced entry fee.
We can then give something
back to our partner as an air tech.
So this year it was
mandatory that everyone had
to run an air tech
intercooler through S53 and S56.
and then we also developed the rear wing,
which makes the cars look fantastic.
One of the things that I
picked up on that Andy said
was about parity in Cooper.
You know, we'll talk about it later on,
but we're looking for that
in Cooper S as well,
and one of the parity is also appearance.
You know,
you look at some of the photos
and some of this live stream we get,
it's all the cars look the same.
They look fantastic.
And that can be done with
people like AirTech and the
front splitter we're going to introduce.
It's going to look amazing.
The cars will just look fantastic.
So really, yeah, you know,
I can't speak highly enough of what Alan,
Ryan, you know,
have all done for Mini
Challenge Club Sport, really.
It's nice you say that.
Having the cars all
uniformed and looking the
same makes the championship
look better as well.
You know, and it makes our drivers feel,
you know,
sadly me and Rob are old racing drivers.
And, you know,
we go back to what we said before,
we were trying to build
something that we would
want to race in where, you know,
I know you talk about
camaraderie in the paddock, but you know,
it also ends as soon as the, you know,
you get out on that circuit,
you're not friends.
You kind of, you want to win the race.
Um,
So that's kind of back to
where we want it to be in club sport.
And the way the cars look is
very important to us and our drivers.
So, yeah, no, without Airtek,
we wouldn't be where we are now.
I can't believe he called
you an old driver then, Rob.
He talked for himself.
I mean, it's great.
The Airtek connection is
great because they're
well-known in motorsport.
You know,
they've got touring car
arrangements and you're
obviously involved with the
Fiestas and what have you.
So it's wonderful for us.
It's a sort of household
name in motorsport terms.
And as Ryan says, you know,
they can come along and
speak to the drivers.
I think, actually,
you're bringing up your special car,
aren't you, Ryan,
for Croft to have on display?
Yeah, we hope I do, yeah.
Yeah, we could do it, Croft.
Yeah,
so it's a wonderful relationship and
they're easy to work with
and they get the bits for
the boys and girls.
We can't ask for any more than that,
really.
Well, Ryan, opportunity then,
just do the promo bit
because it's the
opportunity for me to help
you give something back to you.
For those who don't know,
who are Airtek and how can
they get hold of you?
Yeah, so, to the point,
we're basically
manufacturers of intercoolers, radiators,
intakes, you name it.
They're all made in-house at
our HQ in Canby Island down in Essex.
And if I do want to check
out any of our range, which, again,
all the stuff that's on the... Oh, sorry,
lost my AirPod there.
All the stuff that's on the
Mini Challenge cars is
available on our website
for road cars as well,
which is airketmotorsport.com.
As if by magic,
I've put it on the screen already.
There you go.
Oh, look at that.
I was going to put your
email address on there,
but then I thought, actually,
that's not the one that you
want out necessarily quite as publicly.
But they can get hold of you
through the website.
I loved it as well.
I actually looked.
This will sound sad that it impressed me,
but I sort of went on to it.
And you literally have every
single manufacturer and
then all the different cars
under those manufacturers.
And I can go straight to the
car that I have and then
find what I can get for my car.
It was so easy.
Yeah, we try to make it as easy as we can.
Sometimes it can be a little
bit complicated with
certain manufacturers that
cross over to other different models.
But yeah, it's as simple as it is.
And our social media is always open.
We're Instagram, Facebook.
If anybody ever wants any questions,
they can send it over to us
and we get back to them.
It's not a problem.
Fabulous.
Ryan, anything else that you want to add?
No, I don't think so.
It's just a pleasure to be
involved and thanks for having us on.
Yeah,
I just wanted to make sure I didn't
miss anything.
What I will say is that Zach
Blackwell says, you can take mine out,
Ryan.
So there you go.
The funny thing is, though,
Jamie Ringer then said,
why would you want to take
out that old rust bucket?
I'm not one to stir, Raoul.
I'm not one to stir.
Well, I think that is accepted.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Guys, before I pop you two back in,
Tom and Rob,
anything else that you wanted
that I haven't covered with Airtek?
Over to you, Rob, really, on this one.
Nothing, really.
I mean,
looking forward to seeing you at Croft,
looking forward to seeing
how the Splitter comes out,
and we'll continue to come
up with new innovations.
I think that's what we're after.
Definitely.
Yeah, look forward to it.
Fabulous.
Well, Ryan, thank you so much.
I'll speak to you next week.
Thank you so much for joining us, Ryan.
It's been an absolute
privilege to meet you, mate,
and hopefully see you at circuit soon.
As I said to the others,
don't disappear when I put
you into the green room
until that progress bar fills up to 100%.
But Airtek, get in touch with them.
Absolutely brilliant.
Thanks for your support for
the championship.
And we'll see you soon, mate.
Not a problem.
Thank you very much.
Take care.
Right.
So that's that part.
That's that part.
Thank you to Ryan from AirTech.
We're now going to move on
to the R53 class.
And I've kind of just sort of
one of these, put a lovely comment in,
and then he was abused after that.
But hey, that's just the way it goes,
isn't it?
But let's bring out... I can
see him laughing as well.
Yes, Jamie,
I'm going to make sure you're
dropped in it, mate.
But we're going to look at the R53s.
So delighted to say that I'm
going to be bringing out
Charlie Newton Darby and Zach Blackwell.
They say that us men can't multitask.
I tell you what,
I certainly am getting all
of this happening, but we've done it.
But another man who was
multitasking was directly beneath me.
Welcome, gents.
Zach, just whipping himself home.
You made it back home, Zach.
I did.
I did.
Just about, anyhow.
Well, welcome, Jenson.
Thank you so much for joining us.
Let's talk about Donington
Park to start with.
Zach, from your side,
you won in the 56s last
year and the Airtek trophy,
which is the 53s and 56s together.
Is that right?
It is.
It is.
But this 53 that you've
switched into this year,
you've been developing this car.
Is that right?
To a degree.
I've been doing a lot of
setup changes throughout the season.
But other than that,
it's just a car that we started off with.
oh okay just uh I got the as
commentators we like being
fed this sort of like
romantic information that
you're developing it and I
pick up on that straight
away yeah to a degree like
there's been a lot of setup
changes um there's had to
be a lot of driver changes
as well because the car is
very different compared to
a 56 as well being with a
turbocharged and a
supercharged so you just
characteristics of them is
so different right I'm not
mechanically minded I i as
a commentator I'm the fan
in the box so explain that
to me what take us to to it
what what's the difference
what does it feel like well
so with the r56 uh the
whole front end of the car
feels a bit lighter and
being that it's got an
aluminium engine block um
as opposed to a cast block with the R53.
So naturally the R53 is a
little bit heavier on the
front and wants to push on
a little bit more going
through the corners.
So just learning slight
differences in the way to drive,
slight differences in setup.
Yeah,
it's just an ongoing thing and just
learning
battling my way for it like
my first my first two
rounds it was uh a proper
headache really yeah but
because it was so different
yeah yeah but um I managed
to get a a decent setup on
the car sussex road and
race helped me out there
and uh since then sort of
it's been behaving better should we say
i was kind of trying to
understand because there's
there's no moving up or
moving down between the 53s
and 56s it sounds like they
just literally are
different uh sorry what do
you mean by moving up and
down as in there is no you
wouldn't move up from one
to the other there isn't
are they that way or is one
class does moving up to an
s something or other no I
don't think so and I think
I think they've tried to
make it as competitive as
possible between the two,
between the two different cars.
But obviously with two
completely different engines,
although they look the same
on the outside,
two different engines is
quite hard to do that.
So yeah, it's just, and then like I say,
then from a driver's point of view,
getting in and driving both cars,
they are two very different
cars to drive.
Well,
Rob's put it in our internal chat here,
the question I was going to ask next,
which one do you prefer,
the 53 or the 56?
I would say the 53 is more
of a less forgiving car,
and you've got to be a bit
more on point with your driving.
The R53 with the turbo
allows you to get you out
of trouble if you...
maybe like not quite get the
right gear in a corner,
it will allow you to pull
you out of the corner and
you won't lose so much time.
Doing that with an R53,
you just end up basically
driving a Cooper if you're
in the wrong gear.
So you need to be in the right gear.
Fair enough.
Although Tom said you
preferred the 56 because it was easier.
It didn't make you sweat as much.
I was just about to say,
in terms of what I prefer to drive,
I'd say I prefer to drive the R53.
Well, it's more challenging, isn't it?
That's the beauty.
Definitely.
Before I move to you, Charlie,
just quickly, because this is funny,
just watching these
comments from our backstage
area that are coming in.
They've sort of said,
well done for getting your trophies in,
Zach.
Amazing what you can buy on eBay,
says Tom.
I'm not going to read... I mean,
Jamie's just really...
Rocking in.
Let's just say he's talking
about shining us.
That's all I'm going to say.
But Rob says that you're...
This is my partner's office, by the way.
It's not mine.
She's a part of all of this.
love it so they've been
winding you up for no
reason at all uh absolutely
love it um but switching
now to you charlie now you
have gone a different
change over you went from
the open to the 53s proper
class yes dropping down if
anything so yeah um you're
right I've changed cars so
it's easier for me a little
little bit but um it's
certainly been different
with a slightly slower car
and a lot more weight and
and um it's obviously a
different car to drive now
than what it was last year
when I could just take all
the weight out and go hell
for leather um yeah it's um
it's it's still obviously
same car so I haven't got
to like zach had to get
used to a completely
different car but uh yeah it's uh
you know, it is hard.
So yours was, it's the same car,
but you were, in the open,
you were able to do, in effect,
what you want to it, like you say,
ripping all the weight out,
whereas now you've kind of
stuck to the regs with it, in effect.
Exactly.
I mean, it's originally a Durex car,
and we just lined it and
lined it to the point where it was like,
couldn't really get much more out.
I mean, there's a few other things,
like a ripple to dash out
and that sort of thing,
but we're talking about
10 or 20 kilograms or
something you know um so we
literally took everything
out of it and now I'm
starting to put stuff back
in it you like to put the
old doors the original
steel doors back on to meet
the regulations and and put
a lot of weight on um
himself just to yeah
obviously I've done that as
well obviously having a kid
now I've gotten a few
pounds so to help me out so
take some out the car you
know um to balance it out
of it but um especially over christmas
um but yeah it sounds fun
that in other words it's
not just rock up with the
car there is the ability in
the different classes to
sort of have a bit of fun
play around with it's that
you've moved between two
different cars charlie had
the same car but you've
gone open of sort of like a
bit more freedom to now
sort of stick into the regs
of the the 53s it there's
quite a lot of creativity
within that as well
definitely definitely I think um
I like that you could just
change and do what it sort of tries to.
I mean, it's a bigger class as well.
I wanted to basically drive
with other drivers like
Zach that were a bit more on par.
I mean, in the open class,
it's pretty sparse.
There's only a couple of us, mostly, well,
four at the max.
So it's a bit of a... The
outcome was already on the
wall every time.
You knew what was going to happen,
but this is a bit more fun.
You've got a few more competitors, so...
It makes it a bit more interesting,
you know, just jostling with each other.
And obviously, we've had a good battle,
especially at Donington.
It was pretty close between me and Zach,
the whole race.
So I think I've got what I
wanted and I've come out of
it unscathed so far.
So I think it was a good
choice to come out of the Open.
Well, I mean, it's just so, so tight.
I mean,
I will just say is that sorry that
we haven't got anyone from the Opens.
I mean,
Stephen Berry just absolutely dominated
uh race one uh then it went
to ross alexander
switchback race two and
then stephen berry so they
mixed it up between the two
of them which is great to
see and and and we do love
watching especially I love
the uh the the hard top
convertible it's so cool um
but the fact is that we've
got all these different
classes at the moment
zach's leading the uh the s53 class
Charlie in second,
but there's not really an
awful lot between you when
you start doing drop scores and things.
And at Donington, Charlie,
you won the first race and Zach,
you came third.
So Charlie, to you first,
that was a great way to
start the weekend.
Yeah,
especially after the qualifying I had,
the absolute mare in qualifying.
I couldn't get the car right.
It was all over.
It was one way than the
other and it was all nervous and twitchy,
especially going down the
trainers where you really
don't want it to be
getting around all the
curves and I had a hell of
a time and I think I
qualified seventh or
something like that it was
it was a bit of a bit of a
nightmare show and then but
yeah race one I managed to
make a brilliant start back
in the old Santa pod days
and get up through the
field quite quickly and I
think that got a bit of a
problem so I think he
dropped back I was at the
back of him actually
I can't remember what happened,
but I think he cut out or something,
and I was right behind him at the time,
and I just had to switch
over to the right and
almost took Charlie Heatley
out at the same time,
trying to avoid Zach when
his car got out or something.
But, yeah, I think it was your first race.
I was gifted a bit, but, yeah,
because I think it probably
would have been quite close
if Zach didn't have problems.
You've got to be in it to win.
What was that problem, Zach?
My throttle pedal had broken.
oh really so yeah not not
locked down no no no so
basically they're they got
a sensor in them and uh the
the sensor just sort of
packed up and uh well I'm
I'm thinking that's what
the problem is anyhow
because the car cut out we
changed the throttle pedal
because when we put it on
the diagnostics the uh
the traces weren't running
parallel to the throttle body.
So we changed the throttle
pedal and I didn't get the
issue again for the rest of the weekend.
So fingers crossed that was
the problem and we don't
get any more of those issues at Croft.
I now know who your stirrer
in your championship is
because he's constantly
coming up with good lines.
Jamie Ringer has said that
you ran out of nitrous oxide.
That too.
Nitrous oxide talent.
uh I mean I probably just
stalled it going up the
hill to be fair and uh and
didn't realize so I love it
um but you came back from
that third place so even
with that problem you still
managed to get a third to
then kind of go no I'm back
on this you got it sorted
uh and then the next day
banged it in with two first places zach
Yeah, I mean,
I will say that I was gifted third.
Unfortunately, Charlie Heatley's,
I think he did a drive
shaft on the last lap.
His belt went.
Oh, yeah, so, yeah, belt went.
Done a belt.
supercharged belt so he was
basically driving a Cooper
for the last lap and it
allowed me to I think I
actually beat him by just
under half a second so it
was that close going over
the line but I mean like we
say that's racing like
Charlie here is he made the
most of my car playing up
and then I've made the most of
Charlie Heatley's car playing our pumper.
Unfortunately, in racing,
that's the way it goes sometimes.
No, exactly right.
But, I mean, Charlie,
you kept the consistency
going because you followed
up that win with a pair of
seconds as well.
So,
you're keeping the points going as we
go to Croft for the final round.
Yeah, yeah, but with the points,
the way they go, obviously,
Zach scored way more with
the fastest laps as well.
So,
um so you get six points for
a faster slap and uh so he
scored quite a bit more
than I did but uh I'm big
yeah I'm bigging it up come
on last round come on
charlie I'll take second
second yes first of the
losers uh I know my missus
always says the same oh you
have second that's great
I'm like yeah but yeah I'll
take it I mean you know
I'll keep trying till the
bitter end you know
We'll fight it out hammer
and tong till the last race.
Well, yeah, because at the end of the day,
we've seen how something could go wrong.
And for all we know, Zach,
you could end up at Crofton
having a nightmare.
I hope for your sake you don't.
But that's, again, is motor racing.
You just don't know, do you?
Well, I mean,
if we look at last year in the R56,
I went to Donington,
which was our last round last year.
And my...
I had a electrical issue in qualifying,
so I ended up starting from the back.
Then first race was
relatively problem-free, ended up second.
And then the last race,
my car caught fire.
So...
So, like, anything can happen.
Anything can happen.
All in all, Zach,
you had a better Donington Park this year,
then.
I've never left Donington
without having some kind of issue.
But, I mean, this year was better.
I will take the pedal doing
what I wanted to do in race
one over last year's events, anyhow.
Yes, quite.
No, it does sound good.
Charlie anyone that you want
to shout out to because
it's been a busy season for
you you're going to cross
still with enough of a
sniff that means that
you're going to be going
full out who do you want to
shout out to well the team
I suppose I better say
thanks because obviously
they're helping me out Lee
Campbell my teammate my
mechanic Mark Smith it was
just great with the car obviously he's
only way you can win it is
uh by actually finishing it
so he's been doing a great
job um yeah and um
obviously any sponsors want
to sponsor us that's great
because I haven't got any
sponsors so um well how do
you think about croft
charlie where where does
that sit with you how do I
think about it I don't know
I've never raced as croft
so no never been out there
so it's gonna be a new one for me
um I'll have to get in the
sim or something and have a
good practice yeah
absolutely do you do that
do you actually jump in the
sim before and yeah yeah I
mean I've built a single
rig in uh my garage to just
uh that's how most of the
tracks to be honest just
sitting down and uh on a on
an evening and just
pounding around do a few
laps on the one of the games and uh yeah
Yeah, because you turn up,
you know the track.
It might not be exactly perfect,
but you're not going to go the wrong way.
I take it you do it in a Mini.
Yeah,
I try to set up as best you can to
the power you've got and
everything else in the right car.
It could be a Peugeot or
something like that.
It depends on what they've got in the game,
but yeah, whatever.
You try and get as close as you can,
power to weight and things like that.
Well,
enjoy your practice on the sim
leading into it and best of
luck with that.
Zach, do you practice on the sim?
I do.
Good man.
Do you find it helps as well?
Oh, 100%.
Really?
Yeah,
they're so good that you can almost
pretty much mimic even
better the way your shitting is.
So it's pretty good in that respect.
I like it.
Okay, anyone you want to shout out to,
Zach?
Yeah,
just so my sponsors that have helped me,
because without those,
I wouldn't have been racing this year.
So we have Rip and Roll,
Robert Shaw Accountants, Rapid Metals,
EBC Brakes, Gripper Differentials,
Cooler Works, Dan Can Mini Shop,
and Joe 90 Minis.
That's why you've got no sponsors,
Charlie.
He's got them all.
I know.
Without those,
we wouldn't have had the entries.
Then I have all my family
that come to the races.
They all come and support.
It's great.
They always help out and get
us to the races.
I know that Tom's put in the
comments saying from both him and Rob,
the competition,
competition between you two
has been absolutely amazing.
And, you know, that has to not,
that's not just coming from the, you know,
the, the, the coordinators,
the organizers of the,
of the championship, but,
from the spectators' perspective.
We had it with the Coopers
having some great battles.
You guys having some
absolutely humdingers.
And me as a commentator,
it makes our lives easier
when there's stuff going on.
And keep it going, guys.
It's absolutely brilliant.
I can imagine it's a lot
more fun for you guys as well.
And how do you feel about Croft, Zach?
Been there before?
no I've never been there so
I'm looking forward to it's
a track that since I've
started racing that I've
wanted to go to because I
just from watching touring
car races there it just
looks like a great track
and it's got a good from
what I can see it's got a
good mix of high speed and
low speed so yeah I just I
like the way the track
looks the layout looks good
and yeah just hope for a
trouble free weekend really
Yeah, it's a very flat circuit, isn't it?
But there's a lot going on with it.
I think,
does that mean you want to come on now,
Tom?
Yeah, I'm just going to bring him out.
He wants to add something in closing and,
you know,
he gets precious in the back there,
doesn't he?
No, I just want to say, you know,
in closing really charlie
came down from can I just
say in closing to this bit
this isn't in closing yet
tom but this is no I mean
about 53. um you know last
year um 56 was probably the
the more numbers um zach
made a decision to go for
50 this year with a new car
charlie made a decision to
change his class to 53 from
open and to be fair the
competition between those guys
Again, on track and a little bit off track,
it's been great, you know,
and it's only testament to
what we're trying to do.
So I can only thank them
both for what they've brought to us.
Yeah, fantastic.
Brilliant.
Thanks, Tom.
Thank you both very much.
Sorry,
I was just typing in response to
Ryan's message.
Multitask.
Yeah, and I just remembered that I can't.
I can't think, type, speak and listen.
I think he wants to put the
dishwasher on or something.
I know he does and he's fine.
I need to get Andy Langley
back because he ducked out
too soon so he's got to
come back into this link.
to let it complete at some
point for us but that's
fine guys Zach Charlie keep
up the great battles keep
up the entertainment enjoy
it guys as well so good to
hear where you've come from
slightly different angles
on it and genuinely that as
well I think is a great
advert for this
championship as well to see
that side as well so thank
you very much for joining
us both and best of luck at Croft
Cheers, Chris.
Thanks, guys.
Thank you for rushing back.
I appreciate it as well, mate.
Cheers, guys.
Right.
Then we've got one more guest,
although I've got a feeling
that he was getting all cocky in the chat,
but he's now not so
comfortable about coming out on his own.
But I'm going to make him, Fred,
to start with.
payback jamie uh let's bring
out from the uh make sure I
got this absolutely right
from the r56s we're gonna
have jamie ringer you good
troublemaker how are you
man I'm good how are you
Yeah, I'm very good.
I'm very good.
Good stuff.
Thank you for joining us
because I know I was
informed that we weren't
sure quite when you were
going to be back because
you're with your lad.
I had to pick my boy up, yeah.
That's good.
Always cool now.
No, it was.
It was good.
It was good to get you back.
And I know I saw your
comment is that where's where's Freddie,
for example.
And, you know,
there's there's people that
we could be getting out
with you without question.
But we've got to sort of
like get them out at different times.
But you you only started racing last year.
That's right.
Yeah.
Back in the last year,
I did the last two rounds
just to see if I enjoyed it.
Well, I went to watch the guys at Fraxton.
And I thought, this looks cool.
This looks really cool.
And I've always liked driving fast.
So I was like, fast forward six weeks,
I've got a race car, trailer, kit,
license, da-da-da.
And then, yeah, been doing all right,
mate.
Been doing all right.
And is that as in literally
no racing or just none in the mini?
I've done motocross and bits and bobs,
but no car racing.
Really?
On a track, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which is why Rob Austin says
you look like a skateboarder.
He's just jealous, mate.
I know.
It's an age thing that is.
It is an age thing, mate.
I hide that resentment, you see,
so it's fine.
Well, you know,
welcome to the world of
racing and what an exciting way to do it.
And what did you get?
You got,
you started off the weekend with a
pair of third places.
So you're banging it on the
podium in the R56s.
But you finished it on a high.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, we had sort of round before.
blew the engine up um put a
hole in the head so we had
to sort all that out and
then struggling with heat
issues all weekend car was
running at like 130 degrees
um tipping out water around
the track as we're going
around it wasn't ideal so
we have I was having a lot
race lap cool down lap race
lap cool down wrap and and just maintain
Block on my cool down lap as
best I could and then try
and open a bit of a gap again.
But yeah, race three, I was just like,
you know what, let's just send it.
Went for it, full chat,
heaters full on in the car.
But yeah, we did all right, mate.
I was happy.
Me and the team got some trophies.
Well, by the way, thank you, Andy Langley.
I can see that you've come
back into the green room
and it should show you when
it gets to 100%.
There's some bar and it will
tell you that you're full
up because it is uploading
the rest of your thing.
And as soon as it's done that,
you're free to go.
But to be fair, Jamie,
you've been giving them
sticks so they can give it back.
Zach says that it was the money shift.
The money shift.
Yeah.
That's what we were arranging.
He's telling everyone my secrets.
Shh.
Ah,
you thought you were on Fast and Furious,
didn't you?
I mean, he's the same NOS provider,
you see, so... I mean, genuinely,
from both a fan and a
commentator's perspective,
the mini racing is just...
they look brilliant cars.
I haven't driven one,
but they look brilliant cars to race.
Uh, although I did drive one, uh,
on the weekend at the motorsport,
the British motorsport show
doing an auto solo in the mini, uh,
that mini motorsport UK took there.
Um,
and and it just looks like a
fun car to drive but a
great championship to be in
there's always
entertainment there's
always yeah entertainment
on track entertainment and
drama off track it's uh
yeah I get the impression
that you you wouldn't want
it any other way I love it
I'm here for it yeah bring
it all do you still do the
motocross as well no no I
don't bounce anymore mate
as you get older
zach was um zach rode as
well zach was phenomenal at
motor really yeah yeah yeah
he was but as you get older
you don't you don't bounce
as well you just break
things yeah do you reckon
half of those trophies on
the shelf were motocross
ones then are they amazon
jobbies mate they've got
they're blank if you notice
you can't see the plaques
on them well although ryan
ryan from air tech was
pleased to see that there
was an air that's his only real one
Yeah, that's the real one.
And then Tom said that Lucy
won the rest of them, apparently.
Exactly that, mate.
Bidding on them.
Absolutely.
Well, I mean,
I haven't had a chance
because Tom's only just got
the championship standings
over to me about seven and
a half minutes ago.
Sorry, Tom.
um you're sat second in the
championship of your first
full year I mean that's
that's mind-blowing yeah I
mean I'm really happy I'm
really happy I mean I'm a
bit gutted at the same time
because obviously the
engine went at thruxton so
I lost three races um me
and freddie were having a
good old scrap for the
championship so that's put
me you know a hundred and
50 points behind him now,
140 points or something.
So, yeah, I mean,
Gary's quite close in third.
So if I can finish second in
a championship, first of the losers,
as Charlie said.
But it isn't, is it?
I mean, you're still,
the top three is still a
big deal in the championship.
But I have to say, Freddie Hewitt,
Gary Papworth,
they're other names that
I've seen around mini racing for many,
many years.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm chuffed that I'm up there with them.
Yeah, exactly.
Straight out the get-go.
That's really impressive.
Yeah, I mean, yeah,
I don't really know what to say.
I'll just get in the car and
put my foot down.
Do you do the sim to practice?
Yeah, yeah, I do.
I do a lot of sim stuff.
Not so much to learn how to drive the car,
more like Charlie says,
to learn the track.
Because then it's not a surprise, right?
You come into turn one,
you know that it's an off-camber turn.
So you're going to position
your car so you adjust your braking zone.
Then you get a feel for it in real life.
So you're not trying to
process so much information
because you know where the
corners are coming.
What's your... And Rob and Tom,
I've seen your comments.
I'll bring it in a second.
to somebody else that's kind of going,
do you know what?
I want to get into racing
and they see these minis as
good cars to get in.
What's your advice from
someone that either has
done nothing at all,
or maybe just dabbled with
a couple of bits.
Send it, do it.
I'm testament to it.
I've not done it before.
I, you know,
I'm in a position in my life
where I was like, do you know what?
I want to have some fun.
I'm fed up of working all the time,
paying to build the monotonous stuff.
I thought, you know,
I'm going to go have some fun.
And just go for it.
Just enjoy it.
But don't, you know,
don't listen to everyone that says, oh,
motorsport costs you X, Y, Z. Okay,
it costs you a little bit of money,
but you're going to have
them memories forever.
You know,
you're going to make them friendships.
You're going to have them memories.
Like the trophies,
you can look back at them
in 10 years' time and be like, yeah,
I earned them.
You know, like, mate, do it.
Just send it.
Don't even think about it.
Until you're on a show and
then you tell them that
they didn't earn them.
Yeah, well, Zach knows the truth, mate.
Don't worry about it.
Tom also said, obviously,
where you're talking about
the sim side of things, of course,
the championship linked up
with PASR as well.
That's right, yeah.
Yeah, they were at Donington.
It was a phenomenal setup.
It was awesome.
Yeah, because that,
I can't go purely from memory,
is that Mick Sutton and his crew?
uh you'd have to ask tom I
didn't even get to have a
go on it I was too busy
trying to sort out the
issues with the car but
well me and the team josh
and kevin because I saw
them on the weekend at the
british motor show and he's
trying to get me to
commentate on some sim
championship as well that
he's doing which which I
found is good because uh
you can still have jim
while you're commentating
for a moment exactly
exactly the last race you
can still have jim whilst
you're driving in the sim championship
I have heard that.
I have heard.
Motorsport UK will ban it soon,
but for now, you're all right.
You're all right.
I'm only joking, Motorsport UK.
It's all just good vibes.
I'm going to bring in now,
Rob wanted to come in and say... Oh,
here he goes.
I just wanted to look like Jamie.
Is that better, mate?
Mate, you're getting there.
What else do I need to do?
The hair.
Slick the hair back a bit in a cap.
A cat, yeah.
A cat, mate.
I'll be back in a minute.
Hold on.
You can take me out now.
Oh, no.
I tell you... Something like that.
See, to be honest with you, mate,
you look more like Paul Sawyer, I think,
like that.
You can take me out now again, Chris.
Tom says you look like Dave Lee Travis.
I had to give him his moment.
I had to give it.
See,
this is what this championship is all
about.
Paul Glenn Copeland.
Hi, Glenn.
Good to see you here, mate.
He's in the background going,
what are these numbers?
Glenn usually lurks, mate.
He's a bit of a lurker.
But you look on his face.
He's like, honestly,
what am I got myself into?
That's his happy look.
That's Glenn's happy look.
That's him excited.
I love it.
I love it.
You...
it's an obvious question.
You don't know, uh,
Croft cause you've only
just started racing.
So you definitely haven't raised there.
I've been doing it on the sim, you know,
I'm pretty, yeah, pretty comfortable.
I know where I'm going on it.
That's good.
That helps.
That definitely helps.
But do you think that it's,
it's one that's going to suit you with,
with this layout?
Um,
Yeah, it seems to be a driver's track,
right?
There's lots of places we
can make a lot of time,
lose a lot of time.
So I always try and be consistent.
right so does everyone
sounds a bit cliche but
consistency is key so and I
think that's the track
where you can be very
consistent through if you
get the car set up right um
you know we're hoping to
have the the temperature
issues sorted and the brake
issues sorted from last
round um so yeah I'm not
driving around in 30
degrees with the heaters on
full and the windows done
up geez that does not sound
fun in the slightest it's
horrendous all right as a
newbie what's been your favorite circuit
favorite circuit got to be
thruxton for me I mean I
only got to do uh quali and
half of race one there but
an awesome circuit fast
which is impressive because
yeah like you say is that
you you lost a chunk of it
but the fact that you you
still um it still stands
out to you means that it is
a powerful phenomenal it says I mean it's
coming through church flat
out waiting for the back
end of twitch out on you
hoping it doesn't it was uh
yeah I was gutted because
me and freddie were having
some I mean yeah croft uh
not croft sorry um castle
coom we were on each
other's bumpers for three
races we didn't we we were
on each other's bumpers um
and then moving into
thruxton I was like right
here we go then and we were
on each other's bumpers
again for the first half
and then obviously I had the
I dumped all my water, but that's racing.
It is what it is.
I was fortunate that, you know, Kevin,
the boys at SRR got the car,
like fixed it, you know,
obviously funding sometimes
an issue when you haven't got sponsors.
So they've helped me out where they can.
And got the car running again,
ready for Donington in like
four weeks time,
in like a four week timeframe.
That's incredible.
Yeah, incredible.
Yeah.
What they don't know, mate,
ain't worth knowing.
No, I can imagine.
I always get impressed by
the people around
motorsport that I get to speak to.
The knowledge and skills is
just incredible.
Anyone you want to give a shout out, Jamie,
that, you know,
and I don't just mean sponsors,
anybody at all.
Everyone I race with, like Zach, Charlie,
Ross, Freddie,
everyone that races in a
championship because, yeah,
we have our spits and our
spats and our rows and our
park for my stresses, but
a vibe in the pit lane I
mean you're going around
you're having a laugh with
each other everyone's
always there to help like
from parts to advice to it
it's a vibe mate it's a
real and like I think
anyone coming into it don't
feel intimidated that's all
like everybody's so
welcoming that's so I've
been doing it a year and
you walk around and you
chat to everyone everyone
will give you advice
Maybe not so much if you're winning,
but they'll give you advice.
Or you don't listen to it if
you're winning.
They don't listen to the advice then.
Yeah, and obviously Sussex Road and Race.
I was with another team
first half of the season, Shear,
but circumstances have changed.
So obviously shout out to
all of the sponsors that
helped with the first couple of rounds,
like Vapor, Rip and Roll and stuff.
But moved over to SRR for Ruxton,
I believe.
And yeah, the car's transformed.
It's not just the mechanical
knowledge that they as a team bring.
It's the racing knowledge.
And it's the almost mentoring they bring.
So I'm quite...
a hyper guy I'm bouncing off
the walls most of the time
and it's a big thing like
just bring it down before
you get in a race car don't
go in all excited just
chill out think of the race
just think of your corner
loads of little things like
they're yeah they're worth
their weight in gold mate
no it's a massive thanks to
them because literally
without them I wouldn't
have been finishing off the
season like no chance
I love it, genuinely.
I mean, that is just,
hopefully that sums it up
because it's great.
We've had some season, you know,
season racers.
We've had yourself rocking up very recent.
And it's just that sort of,
the realisation that you
can go and do it.
Anyone can go and do it, mate.
It's very welcoming.
Don't be daunted.
And in fact,
even the fact that a lot of
people know each other,
that really doesn't matter
in this championship in the slightest.
everybody's welcoming that Tom and Rob, uh,
and the team make a big
point of it as well with
certainly the Saturday night,
everybody gets together and,
and break down those barriers,
everybody together,
because you spend even more
time in a paddock than you
do on the circuit,
all of those kinds of things.
And there's good teams, good knowledge,
great cars.
Jamie,
I think you've summed up brilliantly,
mate.
You're just a real
ambassador for the championship from,
from that perspective as well.
So thank you so much for joining.
Tom, Rob, you hear that?
Uh,
That's not the person you
thought was going to be an ambassador,
is it, eh?
This yob.
Jamie,
I've loved your being in the background.
Seriously, winding the guys up.
Your banter's been brilliant.
Keep it up.
Don't ever stop.
The banter's great.
And I know that Rob and Tom
will love that because
they're the kings of banter as well.
So thank you.
Well, there is that, yeah.
Thank you so much for joining us, Jamie.
Best of luck at Croft, mate.
See you later, bro.
Cheers, mate.
Gentlemen,
that brings us to the end of the
driver interviews.
And I think that we, you know,
we did achieve the things
that we want to do.
I am going to bring out a
fourth face as well,
because he's getting frustrated.
He's in an uncomfortable car.
Where are you, Glenn?
Where are you?
I don't know.
I'm just parked in some
shitty services somewhere.
Living the high life.
Spend all day at Brooklyn.
I've got to sacrifice it somehow,
haven't I?
You turn this thing off.
You're a star, mate.
We didn't think we were
going to even be joined by you,
so for doing that is
absolutely brilliant.
I'll tell you what I'm going to do,
actually.
Momentarily, I'm going to remove you, Rob,
because you don't really
want to talk about regs, do you?
No.
I want to eat some cheese.
No.
I'll get you back in a minute.
You wait there, Rob,
because I'll get you back.
Let me know.
Yeah, I'll get you back, mate.
No problem.
But gentlemen, what is Tom doing?
Excuse me on my fucking study anyway.
Sorry.
Thanks.
Right.
Which of you should I come to?
Because you guys are
launching some changes in
the regulations for 2025.
Who should I start with?
Tom.
I knew that was coming.
we are launching some
changes and and if you
listen to what's been said
tonight from the guys
through from coupe actually
every driver who spoke
tonight um basically
they're looking for parity
and they're looking for
like everything across the
same cars being the same
and that's what that's what
attracts them to it um one
of the other things was
that obviously you spoke to
zach zach spoke about the
difference between the 56
and the 53. he's raced both
he's won in both
we strive for so long to
make them equal which is
what the original outset
was when we took the
championship on and we
can't do it so therefore
one of the biggest things
we are going to do is we're
going to split those
classes so therefore it's
not a case of the guys
beating themselves up they
can't beat a respective car
one's turbocharged one's supercharged
Both me and Rob have driven both.
Glenn's probably driven both in his time.
And they have so many
different characteristics.
So therefore,
that's probably the biggest
change is separating those
into individual classes.
On top of that will be then
the parity thing about how
we then equalize those cars
to control cost in one way
that people aren't striving
to try and develop a car
over and above what it'll
probably achieve um and
keep them on the grid yeah
makes sense so in other
words because that was the
only one that I got a note
of is the fact that it
won't be a joint 53 and 53
class in effect no no no
when we when the
championship was sort of um
when we took it over from
the Kumos they were trying
to equalise it lots of
people have spent quite a
lot of time effort and
energy trying to do that as
competitors and so we tried
to keep that going now
we've realised actually
they're spending money
we're trying to deliver
something that can't be
done therefore split it
reduce the costs increase
the competition build the grid Glenn
Yeah,
I agree with everything Tom's just said.
The whole idea of what we're
looking at doing for next
year is to equalise the
fields to make as good,
close and ideally cheap,
reliable racing as we possibly can.
We hope that will draw in
more drivers and by
splitting the 56s and the 53s,
as the drivers have said
and Tom's gone along with as well,
they are very different cars.
It is
You can try as hard as you
like to try and equalize them,
but because of the
different characteristics, it's very,
very hard.
So all you end up doing is
trying to put a limit on
one of the cars to make it
match the other.
Yeah.
Which in itself has a cost implication,
which we don't necessarily need to have.
So we'll split the classes up.
We'll make all the cars as
equal as we physically can.
Yeah.
try to keep costs down to a
sensible amount,
make the cars reliable so
the drivers can concentrate
on going racing and not
about how they're going to
go try and find another to
break horsepower because
they think that's what's
going to beat the car in
front of them because it won't be.
It will be your driving
ability and setup skills
rather than actual power
and all that sort of thing.
I don't know whether I should ask this,
and I probably should have
checked this with you beforehand,
but this is the joys of a live show.
I think you launched this at
Donington Park.
Were there any questions
that were raised that you
would like to get out to the masses now,
or was it sort of just
universally kind of like,
that's a good idea?
I think there's a lot of questions,
and I think there's more to come.
Um,
but what I think the understanding of
everybody is what we're
trying to achieve is to
reduce the cost to get on the grid,
you know, uh, an increased parity,
which again, you know,
is something that's come
across from everybody that, you know,
they want to be equalized.
Um,
and that's the biggest thing that we've
done in all lines.
The other things we've done
is we've reduced hopefully
the cost to build an engine
and in 53 and 56 by, you know,
introducing standard components.
certain maps in ecu's which
people have to spend a lot
of money on to try and
develop their own car um
and they're the biggest
changes of those two
classes really um but so
yeah glenn would you would
you go along with that yeah
I mean I i found since we
sort of announced this at
donington most of the stuff
that we get are as usual as
you expect from from
drivers the questions about
their own situation not not general
What about this sort of stuff?
So that can all be
relatively easy to deal with.
I've got no doubts when we
turn up at Croft that we've
had four weeks to think about it.
We may have slightly more
inundation and questions to deal with.
And I wouldn't expect any less.
You want them to ask questions.
You want them to give you feedback on it.
Because that's how you
develop the channel.
We can't always do
everything by ourselves.
We need feedback from the
drivers to know whether
what we're doing is right or wrong.
So...
Agreed.
And I think that's why the comment that,
sorry, Glenn,
I was going to say the comment, therefore,
is that from what Tom was saying,
is to understand where
these changes are coming from, Glenn,
isn't it?
So the questions,
the feedback is needed by
you guys so that it's not
you guys coming up with all
the answers on your own.
However, understand what the objective is.
Yeah, exactly.
Go on, Glenn.
Go on, Glenn.
Go on, Glenn.
Yeah, all I was going to say is,
I'll just follow up on what I was saying.
We've obviously looked at,
we've taken the feedback
off drivers through this
year about what they've
been doing to get their cars.
And we sort of looked at how
much people say they're spending on cars.
And we've got to the point where we think,
well, that's restricting drivers.
their enjoyment of the race
and sit and think, well,
I've got to go spend this time.
So we're just trying to make
sure that is limited and
make it easier for them all to come out.
Also,
if somebody wants to go build a new
car to come race,
it's going to be a lot
easier for them to do it.
No, exactly right.
Sorry, Tom.
We lost you briefly and then
you came back.
That's all right.
We got you back.
So generally speaking,
if they've got thoughts,
they've got ideas, they've got questions,
is that genuinely they should come to you,
Glenn?
Well, I mean,
any of the team will come and
put your questions to
whoever you feel you best
want to put them to.
At the end of the day,
we'll team up together.
The whole team will get
together and answer those
questions as best we can
and as honestly as we can.
But the goal always has to be to make
a championship that has good,
close racing and to a sensible amount.
Agreed.
Rob,
I think that you had some thoughts on
this as well, mate.
Well,
I was more interested in the problems
that Tom's got.
Oh, mate.
Has he not paid his electric bill?
I thought you were paying it for me, Rob.
Sorry.
I thought you were paying it for me.
I will if you only got a light bulb on.
No, I think the thing is,
what I would say is that, look,
if you go to an all-championship,
standard championship,
every year they bolt on costs.
Okay,
so they'll bring in new bits that
you've got to have mandatory parts.
Every championship's always
done it as a way of making money.
What we're trying to do
is do the opposite so we're
trying to reduce costs
reduce their running costs
and I think that actually
you know although I'm not
directly involved with the
regulations I was expecting
a lot a lot of grief at
donington and it didn't
come we ended up with a lot
of positive feedback I
think it was almost relief
from the drivers but as
glenn has said you know we
will still take a little bit of feedback
We know what we want to do,
but if there are things
that we think that would benefit,
then we will look at it.
And we've also given existing drivers,
you know,
six months really to implement
the changes that they need
to and give them an
opportunity to perhaps sell
parts that they've got on
their cars right now.
which we believe that
there's a market for.
And I think that actually, for us,
this is about where we go in the future.
And I think we know where we
are in the landscape of motorsport.
We want to bring in new drivers.
We want to bring in the dads and lads.
people are capable of
running cars on their own.
And we think that this may
be a good starting point.
We want it to be a starter championship,
but also encouraging those
who've been racing with us
for the past few years to
stay on and continue to race.
Absolutely.
What I will say,
because I'm allowed to say this,
I'm external for it.
For those of you who don't
necessarily know it or appreciate it,
what I will say is that
you've got this championship being run by
Ex-drivers and ex-team
managers that are running a
championship that they
would have wanted run for
them in the way that they
would have wanted run for them.
And that genuinely,
as I'm saying that externally,
and that is my honest opinion of it.
And it doesn't mean they'll
get everything right 100% of the time,
but they are open to listening.
They are not about the tail
wagging the dog,
but they are about
listening and making it
because they want more of
you out there racing.
It's a fun championship.
It's a competitive championship.
It's great cars.
I hope that I'm not
overstepping the mark by
saying this is that that's
my genuine opinion of the
mini challenge club sport
and what Rob and Tom and Glenn, et cetera,
picked up to really do with this.
So please take it as, as a positive thing.
As I hope I haven't
overstepped the mark by saying that,
but any other, yeah, that's it.
It's done now.
We're done.
But any other reg changes over that,
the 56 and the 53s?
They're the big ones, to be honest.
There's some other ones that
we've discussed.
Cooper will have a standard ECU map.
At the moment,
we allow them to have multiple.
So we're going to tighten
that up a little bit.
Although the discussion
between Andy and Ollie earlier,
how close the racing was,
actually the Thruxton race
between Dan Truman, Neil Clark,
Andy Langley, we probably don't have to,
but we want to do it to
make sure there's equality.
The open class at the moment
we're in discussion on, not going to lie,
you know, we've got some thoughts.
But they're the big, you know,
the big one really is the S
class and the splitting of
it and how we're going to
actually control cost to
get more cars on the grid,
which is what all our
racing drivers want.
Absolutely.
We heard from several of
them enjoying the races
that they were having with each other.
I agree.
Okay.
Does that finish with the
reg side of conversation?
Hopefully.
Oh, yeah.
That's fine.
Shall we let Glenn continue
his journey home?
Yes, we can.
I've found a comfortable position now.
I'm okay.
That's all right.
All right.
Just the last couple of
things before we end this show,
because obviously, uh, I've overran my,
my, my schedule, uh, a little bit,
but just the last couple of things was,
um, the championship standings, uh,
going into the final round
and a preview of, of Croft.
I mean, you know,
who should I come to first?
Rob, you, you haven't said, uh,
you haven't been on as much
as Tom because he logs, you know,
hogs the limelight than me, but, uh, um,
We go into the final rounds
with things all finely poised.
Well,
I think that drivers just need to
behave themselves to get
where they want to get.
It's as simple as that.
You know, as Andy says,
he doesn't really need to turn up,
but anything can happen, you know,
and drivers can lose points
through judicials, through anything.
You know,
if they decide to overstep the mark,
then they can suddenly find
themselves losing a place.
So it's an interesting one, isn't it?
I mean,
you have to learn to behave all the
way through and you have to
learn to collect points.
So it'd be great to see how
things pan out.
We have a number of very
hungry drivers who want to
win their classes.
We have a number of drivers
who have got points to
prove because they feel
that maybe they should, you know,
should have been up there
winning overall.
So yeah, it's looking good and it's,
you know,
it's poised as best as it could be.
But ultimately,
the cream always rises to the top.
So we'll see what happens.
Well, Glenn, I guess there's a big thing.
You shut up, Tom.
Glenn, there's...
His AAA battery's about to
run out in that room.
Well, that's true.
Yeah,
he's trying to get in before it runs
out again.
Glenn,
is that one of the key things is that,
yeah,
even if there's some where there's a
bigger gap,
is that there's a lot to be said to,
whilst they might not
necessarily be able to
suddenly take the lead of
the championship, to finish on a high,
they take that into the next year.
Well, yeah, there is that,
but on a note following on
from what you're saying, I think
for the final circuit to
have to finish was a proper
driver's track.
It should really bring some
really good racing.
It was my local track for 20 years.
Every time I get a chance to
go race there or take a
championship there,
I'm more than happy to go.
I do think it brings really,
really good racing because
of how the circuit is laid out,
the technicality, fast, slow bits.
So, yeah,
I'm really glad to take it there.
And I think you'll find
you'll get a few drivers
that will really click for the place.
And you'll get... I'm hoping
we'll get some slightly
different results because
obviously you'll get... It
is one of them circuits
where somebody can just
click with it and drive way
better than they have done
all season because they
just like the circuit.
Agreed.
I mean, I always did really well there.
I mean,
Glen will remember I went in both
races there and...
given him one of my trophies.
What's that?
I wasn't there that year.
You haven't been around for years,
but there we go.
But no, I think that it's a great second.
Jamie Ringer's just said he
probably wasn't born then, to be fair.
Yeah, no, the way he dresses...
I do apologise on behalf of
the championship, Chris.
I know you weren't expecting
a skateboarder, but never mind.
No, it's a great circuit.
And I think that actually, you're right,
Glenn's right.
It's going to scare a few people.
Jim Clark and, you know,
that corner and all that malarkey.
There's some pretty quick stuff there.
Well, Tom, I mean,
one of the things that
really stands out for me at Croft is,
compared to probably all
circuits that I can think of,
it's got to be one of the flattest.
I mean, all right, Thruxton's pretty flat,
but this just seems... I'll be honest,
for me as a driver, probably an ex-driver,
as Rob will soon say.
For me,
the nearest circuit is probably
home to you, Castle Coon.
Yeah, but you can't say that.
Think about Avon Rise heading up there.
You know,
it's... There are bumps and
undulations in Croft too.
There's a bit... You don't
realise you do climb a
little bit of a mound out
of the first chicane up towards,
what is it, Turn 4?
No, really.
Oh, it's bumpy, isn't it?
The only hill is the hill
over the railway circuit to
get the railway track to
get into the track.
Obviously, because you've never been there,
you wouldn't know.
OK.
Yeah.
I mean,
I know it's bumpy and I don't mean
that side.
And as Jamie said,
Croft is brutal on the car.
How do you know, Jamie?
He was brutal on his sim car.
I'm the same way.
When it breaks, he can press restart.
Was it shaking?
We can say what we like now, Jamie.
And yet again,
we've introduced a new track.
In two years,
we've introduced drivers to new tracks.
Thruxton last year, this year,
Castle Coombe and Croft.
And they've all been really well-recepted.
So, no.
Jamie's just corrected himself.
He meant Coombe was brutal on the car.
And, yes,
but we don't call him... That's
because he was nervous
about being on telly.
Yeah.
I can't believe that for a second.
On a serious point, for next year,
we've discussed this in
terms of the calendar,
which we're not going to
discuss too much tonight.
But it's our belief that we
would like to bring in
somewhere new each year,
somewhere different for the drivers.
And we will maintain...
I believe that we can try
and get the best circuits
available with the biggest crowns.
What the three of us have
got planned is very
exciting for next year.
Great.
Is that next month's episode?
Are we going to talk
calendars next month or is
it later than that?
It's probably a little bit early,
actually.
I mean,
we probably won't be able to release it.
What do you think, Tom?
Maybe November?
Okay, no, that's fine.
It's just because we have to
go through the pecking
order that is BTCC from Formula 1.
You know how it works.
All I'm doing is I'm trailing,
get people excited to tune
in to future episodes
because it will include a
diary release on them as well,
as well as abusing each other.
Yeah, I was intrigued by that.
It's going to be a different
venue each year.
It's like, hang on,
that can't go on forever.
Have none of you been to Croix in France?
I have.
I love it.
OK, I mean,
I think that takes us to the end.
The championships are finally poised.
We go into Croft for the final round.
As far as I'm aware,
it's going to be discussed
is that hopefully we shall carry on,
keep this community
together even after the
championship comes to that climax.
We'll be able to review Croft.
We'll be able to get excited.
We've got many other things.
people to get onto this show
hopefully you've now all
seen how this works that we
get to to get people on
there's so many subplots
and stories and uh I just
love this championship I
love what rob and tom have
done which I'm not
surprised because genuinely
there were two of the
characters sorry and glenn
but tom I've only met you
recently glenn but tom and
rob I've known for for many
many years and they're
always liabilities uh
they are lads they are
legends and they're just so
much fun and they'll say
that that's the same style
I have well there is that
yeah but they'll say that
my commentary is the same
style is the fact that I
like to have a laugh in my
commentary it's
entertainment first
commentary second is my
yeah you're supposed to
laugh with us not at us
I've learned from you.
Rob,
you've taught me to take the mic out
of everyone,
so there's no point saying that.
It's easier that way.
Yeah, exactly.
Anything else that we need
to cover in this show, gents?
I don't think so.
Have we got any outstanding invoices?
I don't think we have right now, so no,
not from me.
No, no, no.
Jamie said it's nap time for Rob now.
Yeah, yeah.
I slept during his interview.
The bad news is, oh yeah,
he has said touche, to be fair.
I could see he was about the time again.
But no, seriously, thank you to you guys.
It's been a brilliant show.
I hope it's been what you were hoping for.
Thank you to Andy and Ollie.
Thank you to Ryan from AirTech,
Charlie and Zach,
and of course to Jamie as well.
It's been a fabulous show.
It's been thoroughly enjoyable.
I hope that people have
enjoyed watching it.
Share it.
You can watch this back
after we finish going the
live bit as well.
Feedback to us.
Give us comments.
Give us stuff.
Who else we're going to get
on is down to these guys
and I shall just be ready
to go with the various interviews.
It's been a pleasure.
Rob,
you get to go and sit in a darkened
room now.
Tom, you're already in a darkened room.
You can go and find your life.
The time is perfect because
it's medication time.
I thought as much.
And, Glenn,
you can finish your journey back.
I appreciate you doing that, mate.
And for all the drivers.
And for all the drivers.
I know they did the same.
But from all of us here,
thank you for watching.
Have a very good evening.
Say goodnight, guys.
See you later on.
Goodnight, everyone.
Cheers, all.
See you soon.