Mini Challenge CLUBSPORT Talk Show

Show was LIVE, Wednesday 21st August 2024 at 7pm
 
Join as we went LIVE for episode 2 of Mini Challenge Clubsport Talk Show, where we will get to speak with our multi-year partner, Airtec, and several of the several of the successful drivers from our fourth round at Donington Park on 10th and 11th August.
 
Host, Chris Dawes (commentator and founder of Visual PR), spoke with Airtect Motorsport's Ryan Beeden, and some of the victors from Donington Park (Andy Langley, Oli Willmott, Charlie Newton-Darby, Zac Blackwell, and Jamie Ringer), along with Mini Challenge Clubsport's Rob Auston, Tom Halliwell, and Glen Copeland). Get a drink at the ready, and the comments and questions flowing, as the design of these shows are that the banter is high and the engagement fully flowing – or should the be the other way round?
 
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What is Mini Challenge CLUBSPORT Talk Show?

The idea behind the Mini Challenge CLUBSPORT championship is for MINI racers to enjoy a close competitive series whilst keeping costs low, making the series ideal for amateur drivers with a limited budget.

The idea behind this monthly talk show is to provide a fun community show where we all come together and enable the racers and business partners to gain extra exposure, with guests on the live shows rotating around the partners and drivers, and anyone else involved in the championship. The show is designed to be light and fun, and will also enable us to promote upcoming activities and discuss those that have already happened. Make sure you tune in to the live shows on YouTube and Facebook, and your comments/questions added during the live shows can even be put up on screen (along with your profile name and photo) and answered live in the interactive episodes. But this podcast also enables you to listen back to the shows whilst driving, walking, or working out!! (or in the pub...)

Good evening.

Welcome to episode... It is episode two,

but it's the first one that

we've really gone live with

this because the guys

bailed out the first time

on me and we had it recorded.

I'm going to bring out one of the main men,

Rob Austin,

from Mini Challenge Club Sport.

Rob, you went easy episode one,

didn't you?

We launched it with a recorded show,

but we're now live, mate.

No swearing, all right?

No comment.

Yeah.

How are you, mate?

I would have been happy to do it live.

But I think all the other

boys were a little bit nervous,

weren't they?

Of you, probably, weren't they?

Yeah, yeah.

Now that we've got 18 people

watching this evening,

I think they'll be really nervous, though,

if I'm honest.

And there'll be even more.

Pile in, guys.

Make sure you share it.

Get it wide.

This is a great opportunity

to catch up on the races.

to speak to some of the key characters,

both from behind the

steering wheel and partners

and all those kind of things,

and to really get excited about it,

plus giving everybody an

opportunity to promote

everybody that helps them

do what they do and things like that.

But also, Rob,

I know your big remit is to

have a bit of fun with this as well.

I think it's all about fun, isn't it?

I mean, life is so difficult these days.

We take things so seriously.

Even our racing we take really seriously,

but we need to have a bit of fun,

don't we?

A hundred percent.

That's why.

As to be expected.

What are you going to do for

the second half of the show?

The current Mrs. Dawes has got home,

so she'll keep me topped up.

That's fine.

No, I mean, it's, you know,

it's really about taking

the championship to the

highest level that we can

at club sport level.

You know, we want to be the best.

We've had two fantastic years coming,

you know,

almost finished the second year now.

and we just tom and I and

glenn we just want to

really bring in as much as

we can that's a little bit

different a little bit

sparky keeps people engaged

and um helps it grow and I

think that we're we're the

thing is we're always

learning and there's always

new things I mean when

you've got you know you

can't teach old dogs new

tricks and hence the reason

why we're playing around with this

Exactly.

And this is what we can see.

What you're going to find

tonight is we've got a

whole host of guests.

It's a busy show.

Thanks for that, Rob and Tom.

You've really thrown a lot

of people at me for this one.

No, you haven't.

They can hear that.

So I'm confirming that's not the case.

But no, it's going to be a great show.

Some key characters from the

Donington Park round really

is the essence.

But I'm delighted to say

that we've also got Ryan from Airtek,

one of the key partners,

multi-year partners of the

Mini Challenge Club Sport Championship.

um so we'll catch up with

with ryan and find out all

about air tech we're going

to find out from andy and

ollie on the cooper class

we've got charlie and zach

from the r53s we've got jamie

Hopefully we'll be back.

His lad's playing football at the moment,

but hopefully we'll be back on the R56.

I know that doesn't include everyone,

but anybody watching going,

why aren't I on?

Because we can only have so

many at a time.

So make sure you get your

name down because we'll get

you in future episodes

because the plan is we'll

be doing an episode every month.

And it gives us the opportunity, Rob,

to come together as a community,

doesn't it?

And have some fun together

whilst looking back and

looking forward at the

championship as well.

Yeah, I think the thing is that, you know,

first and foremost,

we want to get all the drivers on.

That's what we've got to do.

We want to get all the partners on.

And that's the aim, I think,

to talk equally across the board.

And we've tried to do this

with our get-together on a

Saturday night.

Most people come along.

We get a great turnout,

maybe 90% plus come along

for a drink and a chat.

And it just eases the

situation after what can be

a pretty hectic times racing.

The racing this year has been intense,

but I'm pleased to say, you know,

we've had very few issues,

judicial issues, which has been, you know,

a feather in the cap of the

championship and a feather

in the cap of the drivers.

So they know how to play hard.

contact has been relatively

minimal compared with other

championships.

And, you know,

that's a key area of cost

because it's not cheap to go out racing.

Tom and I know this.

We've done it.

We spent years racing, as you well know,

Chris.

And part of it is we need to, you know,

minimize accident damage.

And that's been one of the things.

But we just want to bring in

the different characters.

We've got so many different characters,

so many people involved with this,

so many people enthusiastic about this.

And it would be great to

hear from them all.

Because then I can carry on

with doing whatever I'm doing,

like washing the car or whatever.

Because, as I've said to you all along,

I've only got a face for radio, really,

not TV.

Well, I didn't like to say,

but I still make a living,

even though I'm the same, mate.

But, yeah, for those who don't know,

is that, yes, I'm very privileged.

I get paid to commentate on motorsport,

travel the length and

breadth of the country and

sometimes Europe.

And it has included Rob

Austin and Tom Halliwell for many,

many years as well.

And we've had a good laugh.

I was very honoured when

they approached me with my company,

Visual PR,

to put something like this together.

So remember that while you're watching,

you can put comments and questions.

And I will jump in because a

couple have... Well, I say a couple...

Even in Paul Sawyer,

he put this comment on YouTube,

because I can tell from the symbol.

He's also put it on Facebook.

I can imagine him.

He's got a tablet and a

laptop and the TV and everything.

And he's got his mixing decks, of course,

hasn't he?

Yeah.

Evening, Paul.

Great to see you on.

Definitely another guest

that we'll get on at some point as well.

Put your comments,

put your questions wherever

you're watching them.

They'll come up and we'll be

able to see it.

Hello, Nigel from the Nicker Book,

Nicker Book at Alton Park.

Evening, Chris and Co.

Good to hear from you, Nigel.

So get your comments in

because this becomes, you know,

an interactive.

Paul's actually said,

I'm actually working on an

interview whilst listening.

rob I thought us men

couldn't multitask sorry

I'm paying my bills on my

mobile while I'm listening

as well so we really are we

are multitasking no I mean

it's yeah it's it's it's

great you know it's a good

opportunity this is nothing

for anyone to be nervous

about they've got to have

fun with it and and and

that's you know if you

can't have fun and don't

bother but uh yeah be

interesting to see if we

get who who does send any

questions through

Yeah, questions, comments,

anything like that.

Jason McGuinness.

Jason McGuinness,

one of our drivers from last year.

Brilliant.

He's just waved.

He's going to come out again, Jason.

Yes, make sure you get out, Jason.

Look, it's even grown even more.

And by the way, I can see in my green room,

Jamie Ring is in.

Evening, Jamie.

Good to see you here, mate.

He's back from football practice then.

Yeah, he is.

Hopefully he can hear us.

I can see you down in the camera below.

So he'll be on in due course as well.

He's just waved.

I'll be able to grass him up

if he ends up with a

drinking hand like the rest of us.

Hmm.

Right.

I think we need to get on with this show,

don't we, Rob?

Because we've got a lot of

people to speak to.

In which case, Rob,

I will see you a little bit later,

either for the regs bit or

at the end when we just

look at the championship

standings and preview Croft

a little bit as well.

Those that are watching,

please do keep the comments,

keep the questions coming in.

But Rob, I'll speak to you later, mate.

Coming up next,

we're going to speak about

the Cooper class where Andy

and Ollie had an absolute

humdinger of a battle or three.

Gentlemen,

I feel like I should be in the

middle of this one, actually.

Welcome to the show, guys.

Honestly, what I've got to say,

you guys put on an absolute

thoroughbred entertainment

at Donington Park.

Absolutely brilliant.

I'm going to start with you, Ollie,

purely because...

Well, you took race number one.

You took the victory.

First race with the Mini

Challenge Club Sport as well.

That was a nice way to start.

Well, good evening, everyone.

Yeah, it was a good one.

I did it... Well, halfway through,

I was like,

I'm never going to get past Andy.

And then I was eyeing him up

pretty much every lap on

the last chicane.

And then last lap, it happened.

And...

Yeah,

it was a pretty big part inside the car,

I would say that.

Well, I did.

I only watched that today on

the stream because, sadly,

I'm a disadvantage.

Where was I this weekend?

Oh, I was doing... No, I can't remember.

I was commentating somewhere

else when you guys were racing,

so I missed it.

But I have watched some of the stream,

and it was like, yeah, real move.

Andy, you from the other side, I mean,

that was... You've had

enough wins this year,

but that was not what you wanted to see.

Do you think so?

I think so.

I think so.

I was good, but yeah, fair play to Ollie.

He was on my case all race.

We had a real, real close battle.

And I just messed up last

year's game and he came sailing past.

So there you go.

You can't win them all, apparently.

I tried.

Well, let's be honest.

From my reckoning, well,

let me just double check to

make sure I'm getting this right,

is that you still won the

other two races after that,

just to make sure that you

stamped your authority back on.

Yeah, yeah,

the rest of the weekend was pretty good,

yeah.

I think,

I wasn't sure whether you'd

actually won the Cooper Championship,

but I think if you haven't,

you're on the cusp of it.

So you're going to Croft

with the intention to try

and get it wrapped up.

Does that mean you're still

going to go for the wins?

Always got to battle.

There's no point in being

there if you're not going to go for it.

So yeah, I think actually,

if I don't turn up,

I could do it on drop scores just now,

but there's no point in that, is there?

No.

Yeah,

of course you're going to be going

for it.

Absolutely.

Yeah, that's like Ollie says,

that's the boring way to do it.

And I think, especially, I mean, this year,

Andy, I mean,

I did cover you guys at my home circuit,

Castle Coombe, and again,

dishing up the entertainment.

And it's hard work

commentating on you guys

because there's so much

action going on up and down the whole,

you know, grid,

not just with the championships,

but the Cooper ones a bit

easier to see because you

guys do tend to congregate

and it's been entertaining

throughout the whole year.

yeah absolutely you know the

cupers are just they are

great fun to drive I know

they're not massive power

but you know you're

guaranteed a close race and

you know me dan neil and

ollie as well you know

we've had we've had some

real close races it's just

it's great you know you get

out the car you know you

know you've had a proper race brilliant

Before I move to Ollie with

the fact that it was his

first time showing,

I just want to just make sure, Andy,

for those of those that are

watching that might not know,

what is a Cooper Class Mini?

So the Cooper Class Mini is

pretty standard spec.

So you're allowed, like, dampers and,

you know, a few other mods.

But, you know, they're quite fancy.

They're a bit more strict on

the regulations,

so you can't do a lot with them.

Fairly standard cars, which is brilliant.

And normally aspirated as well.

Only about 130 horsepower,

so not over-fast,

but the racing's great and really good.

I guess for me that sort of

stands out as that is one of the,

I know that the mini

challenge club sport is

about being affordable to come racing in,

in what is kind of like a

mini touring car to some extent,

but the Cooper class

therefore must be the most

affordable of them.

Yeah, definitely.

You know, you,

you can't go crazy on mods or anything.

Like I said, there's,

it's only minimal things that you can do.

So,

So yeah, definitely.

I think out of all of them,

it's the most affordable

and it's guaranteed, you know,

you're guaranteed parity really.

So you can, you know,

someone's not going to have

something better than you

because you've all got the

same equipment pretty much.

So yeah, that's what I like about it.

Yeah, I agree with that.

Now, Oli,

let's go back because this was

your first mini challenge

club sport race.

What have you done previously?

So I started in the Saxos,

the junior championship.

And then from there,

I went straight into

Britcar and a Porsche GT3.

As you do.

That was a bit of a shock.

And then through COVID,

I sort of didn't do any racing.

And then Tom Halliwell died.

just told me to come and

have a go in the mini

challenge club sport.

And then I said, yeah, why not?

I'll come and see what it's like.

And it was pretty epic,

let's say it that way.

I love the fact I'm just

watching Tom in the green

room down at the bottom of

my screen and he suddenly

sat back with a beaming

chuckle on his face and his arms folded.

So he's laughing about it,

but he's also pretty

chuffed with that one as well.

I mean, to the point, Ollie,

that did I hear right that

there's now a car acquired

ready for next season?

I don't want to spoil it all,

but you'll probably see my

face a bit more next year, yeah.

Yeah.

I've sported it.

Apologies, mate.

Basically,

that's an amazing advert for the

championship to go that you

rock up once and you do it.

I mean,

did you really expect to be able to

rock up and sort of get the

three podiums?

No.

Just because I haven't been

racing for such a long time.

And yeah, just to get back into it.

But

I guess it didn't look too bad.

Oh, it didn't?

Because you're not even in the country,

are you?

No, I'm overseas.

I'm in Switzerland now.

So, yeah, one hour in front of you guys.

Oh, fair enough.

Fair enough.

Crikey.

And aren't they meat-tired?

You'll be even more tired

than if you're an amateur.

So speak to us from someone

that rocked up for the first time,

because I think I can

safely ask you this.

I know Andy's going to be a

massive advocate of the

paddock and the

championship and everything because,

you know, he's never present.

But ask someone who's just rocked up.

I've seen the paddock from

the commentator's side,

and it always seems really friendly.

People help each other.

There's the Saturday night get-together,

all of that kind of stuff.

Is that a true perception?

Yeah.

For me,

it was probably one of the best

experiences over the, whatever,

seven years of racing.

You just rock up.

Everyone's super nice.

Have a drink together.

Race together.

Have some close racing.

sweat your bollocks off I

lost probably five kilos

yeah and it's just it's

lovely and like loads of

people as well I mean yeah

really cool I like that I

mean andy I call you an ever-present but

that can't be a novelty that

wears off because you know

what you're going to get

each weekend someone summed

it up for me uh with with

motor racing in general is

that you spend miles more

time in a paddock than you

do out on circuit yeah

definitely I i think

honestly I know I know I've

done well this year but

this has been the best year

for me racing just off

track and on track you know

I've really enjoyed it

paddock's been great we've

got a great little team

you know,

run together with Norfolk cars and,

you know, we've had, um, friendly boys,

you know, friendly group together.

So yeah, it's been, you know,

just the whole paddock is a

great atmosphere.

You, you know, you can't, um,

you can't put price on that.

It's great.

No, agreed.

And that's why I safely

asked that question because

I kind of just from the

outside looked at it.

How do you feel about the

fact that it looks like

you're going to be getting, well,

which way?

I've got a point that way.

It looks like you're going

to be getting competition

from this guy next year.

Yeah, yeah, I love it.

Yeah, you know, we had some hard racing.

It was a good weekend.

I, you know, I've got a bit,

I was a bit stressed before

the weekend about Oli coming along.

you know,

in terms of the championship and

everything and, you know,

what's going to happen.

But, you know,

he pushed me hard and I loved it.

You know,

it was great to just dig deep and, yeah,

it was great.

Enjoyed it.

And I can imagine that

because you guys don't like

just going out on track days, i.e.

where there's no real competition.

You come out of it with a

massive smile when you've had a battle.

Definitely.

Yeah.

You know, if you win a race at a canter,

it's not the same feeling

as if you've had a real hard battle.

Never.

I was witness to that, Ollie, all right?

And really,

I guess what I'm doing here is

that from the commentator

slash fan slash spectator

perspective is that I'm

bigging up that this is a

tussle that we can look

forward to is that it just adds another

uh subplot to the whole

championship that is is

just something to really

look forward to in what is

already close racing uh I

mean ollie I get the

impression that these cars

are relatively forgiving

but you've really got to be

on it with them they are

like mini touring cars yeah

exactly and I would just say

for people that want to

start racing I mean it's

the best thing I mean I've

come from a Porsche that is

10 times as faster but the

racing was ridiculous I

mean from start to the end

is just you are properly on

it and if you're if you do

a mistake like I did in

race three then I came to third and then

eventually got back to second.

But it's, yeah,

no mistakes are allowed in this race.

Although it does show that

you don't need to lose absolute heart,

is that you can kind of

like wash it off and go again,

which I like as well to watch it.

Question then, Ollie,

that has been prompted to me is,

did your dad enjoy it?

I think he did.

I think he liked the first race.

I think that, yeah.

Like the whole of my family came over.

And yeah,

I think I did them pretty proud

on the first race.

And the second and third is

what's happened in motorsport.

Yeah.

And apparently you're entering Croft.

Is that right?

Oh, no, that's my dad.

Oh, your dad.

Sorry, Tom.

I didn't understand that comment.

He's put that in the thing.

Your dad's entering craft.

I like it.

So he's going to have a go as well.

So I've told him already

that the slipstream's

pretty good in these minis.

Yeah,

they're not the most aerodynamic of

things, are they?

So the slipstream's always

going to be pretty darn good.

Yep.

Although, Andy,

I get the impression it's

not quite to the level of

some things you see, I don't know,

like let's take, say,

Caterham's where you don't

want to be in the lead

until you've come out of

that final corner.

It's not quite that bad in the minis,

is it?

I know it was for you in race one,

but... Yeah.

No, I mean, probably at Donington,

it was worth a good half

second a lap easy at Donington.

But yeah, not as strong as the Caterham's,

but...

But, yeah, you've got to, you know,

I know in race three when I

made a mistake and I

dropped back and the

slipstream really helped me

to catch back up again, you know,

in race three.

So, yeah.

Yeah, so it's not excessive,

but it does mean that you

can have the patience and

you can kind of go, right,

that was a mistake.

Don't lose sleep.

Let's get on with it again

and work your way back up again.

Rob's stirring, by the way, Ollie.

He said that you're on

national service right now.

Yeah, I am.

So after this,

I'm going back into our bunker.

And that's why I was going to be at Croft.

And then I told my dad,

I can't take the days off.

So sadly,

that's my racing over for this year.

What does that mean?

So what do you do?

I work with the fighter jets.

So basically,

the security of the bunkers

where the jets stay.

wow that's cool that is cool

so I work with the F18s

they're a little bit

quicker than the minis

they're a little bit

quicker than most things

let's be honest that makes

complete sense how old are

you Oli sorry I should know

that twenty three

23 okay uh these youngsters

hey andy don't ask my age I

was I was leaving same as I

wasn't gonna offer mine

either I'm with you on that

andy don't you worry mate

we'll stick together on

that one um guys uh quickly

then uh andy before I wrap

up uh anybody you want to

say thank you on the

sponsorship side or family

side or anything like that

Yeah, really, you know,

a big thanks to Norfolk Cars.

You know,

ever since I started racing the minis,

I've been with those guys.

And, you know, Gary, who races the Clubman,

you know, he's prepped my car so well.

And Neil as well, you know,

we've raced together over the years.

We've had a few clashes over the years,

but, you know, it's all good.

And, yeah,

those guys have helped me out a lot.

So, yeah, big thanks to them, really.

Fabulous.

Ollie, same to you, mate.

Cheers.

Well, first thing, big thanks to Tom.

Yeah, he knows what it means.

And family that came over to

have a look and ski set, Wengen.

So if anyone wants to want

to come ski into where I live, come by,

I'll be there 24-7 basically.

And yeah, just Neil.

I never met him,

but I was able to use his

car and it was a good one.

It was a good one.

Absolutely.

Well, gentlemen,

thank you so much for joining us.

Don't forget, when I take you off screen,

wait until it fills up your

recording progress bar just

so that we can create

social clips from this show as well.

But, Oli, Andy, thank you so much.

Oli,

we look forward to seeing your dad at

Croft and you next year.

Andy, play it cool, Trig.

Play it cool at Croft.

I will.

see if you can secure the

championship that you've

worked hard for this year, mate.

And we shall hopefully speak

to you guys again very soon.

Yeah, look forward to it.

Cheers, Chris.

Thank you very much.

Cheers, Chris.

Thanks, guys.

Absolutely brilliant.

I've done it this way

because my transition is quite short.

So I just wanted to do it this way.

I've got to check my notes.

Right.

We're getting out.

So thank you to the drivers.

They're great to get an insight.

And that's the kind of thing

we're going to be getting

from the weekends and

everything that they do.

I would go even deeper,

but I've got so many guests.

I'm keeping it short, sharp, etc.,

We're now going to switch it

to one of the partners and a key partner,

it's fair to say,

in a multi-year partner

that have been involved in

not just supporting,

but creating as well.

So I'm delighted that we're

going to be bringing out

now Ryan Beedon from Airtek.

Evening, Ryan.

Have I spelt your surname right there?

You have, yes.

Yeah.

Phew.

It was only when I pressed

it that I suddenly realized

I typed that and I don't trust myself.

Welcome to the talk show, mate.

And it's great to speak to

you because Airtek are not just,

let's use the overused phrase, sponsor,

but very much a partner

because you guys have been

involved in designing key

parts of these cars.

Yeah.

It was quite a challenge for us, really.

So the Mini Challenge Club Sport itself,

it's one of those things

that's good fun racing,

but having the components

to work with those cars as

well is second to none, really.

And a lot of the cars was

running a few different

variations of rear wing.

And for us, we sort of looked at that.

We had an R56 ourself,

which obviously crosses

over to the R53 as well.

So for us to get into our

workshop and actually make

something that's usable and

works with the championship

was a no-brainer, really.

If we've got the facilities to do it,

why not?

The facilities and the

know-how and everything like that.

Because I was looking at your details,

because you guys started as

auto specialists back in the 90s,

which was simple aesthetics back then,

primarily for Ford.

Is that right?

Yeah, 100%, yeah.

or exclusively for Ford I'm

not sure whether it is yeah

so yeah back in the day it

was pretty much doing a lot

of shiny stuff and fancy

engine based stuff yeah

older Fords really

okay and then uh 20 sorry

2002 uh became air tech

motorsport to give it

obviously its full name I

know I've called you air

tech there um which went

into performance enhancing

cooling products and

solutions um which then

meant that you you actually

evolved into one of the

leading performance parts

manufacturers in the uk I

mean that's quite an evolution isn't it

Yeah, we'll take that.

Yeah, it grew very quick.

So I've been with the

company now for coming up 10 years.

And yeah, when we first started,

it was a lot of, like I say,

engine-based stuff, shiny stuff.

And then the Airtek

Motorsport brand was there,

but it wasn't as big,

nowhere near as big as what we are now.

It was running alongside the

Auto Specialist.

So we had all of our

intercoolers and our

radiators and whatnot

listed on Auto Specialist.

And then we see a bit of a

gap where it was,

why don't we launch Airtek

into its own brand?

And it started as Airtek

Cooling Solutions.

So it was literally intercoolers,

radiators, and that was pretty much it.

And then we started to break

more into doing intakes and

the odd quick shifts and whatnot.

And here we are today with rear wings,

you name it.

If we can do it, we can do it.

Yeah,

because I had the note that said...

I've just got to make sure

where did I put it.

You actually developed a

rear wing for all of the

competitors on the S-Class

and the rear wing for the

53s and 56s developed

largely with the

relationship with the Mini

Challenge... Was it Mini

Challenge Club Sport or

Mini Challenge as a whole?

Sorry, I should know that.

Mini Challenge Club Sport.

So that sort of suggests

that that's very much a

useful two-way relationship

that happened there then, which is cool.

100%, yeah.

We were approached by the

guys to have a look at

doing a rear wing and a front split-off,

which, yeah, it was a challenge.

It wasn't something that we couldn't do.

It was something that we

sort of looked at.

Our development guys, one of our guys,

he went to university and

studied aerodynamics with motorsports.

So making the rear wing for

us was a cool project.

He hadn't been with us too

long on the design side of things.

So having him get involved

in it and actually put what

he knows to the test.

was really good we went

through a few different

designs same with any

development some things

work some things don't at

first we had these massive

end plates that was

ginormous and the rear wing

was absolutely massive but

it's not going to work so

we went through a few

different design stages and

the rear wing it follows

the natural curves of the

boot line so it is fully

functional moves up and

down so you've got a few

different heights on it as

well but yeah making

something like that and

And doing that for the

championship just goes to

show how well we work with the guys.

Yeah,

because isn't next year a splitter

intended to be released for it?

That's right, yeah.

So we've gone for more of a

motorsport look with the front splitter,

where it's more of like a solid look,

whereas you see the typical

splitters follow the shape of the bumper.

So we've gone for more of a

race car design with it.

not just intended for race

cars by all means a lot of

our stuff we try and do it

you can put it on a road

car why not it's not just

intended for a race car so

it looks good but it and

it's functional for the

race car as well 100% yes

i did hear someone tell me

that uh by all accounts it

is going to have I I've

made a comment already

about that these minis are

very much like mini touring

cars and it's going to look

that way even more with

this front splitter it

should do um so it was we

sent some to the

championship to put on one

of the um I don't know what

you say the prototype cars

or one of the demonstrator

cars which is showcased at

one of the rounds um

think it was earlier this

year and we had loads of

good feedback loads of

people contacted the rear

wing looks awesome how can

I buy one and the front

splitter looks great when

they're going to be

available and and it all

goes into it so it takes

time but but we get there

and all the feedback that

we get is good feedback

again same in the front

splitter we hit a few

hiccups to that with

different designs of

bumpers um some fit only

fit the earlier um m14 not

the n18 and and vice versa

but but we got there in the end

You love a challenge, mate.

That's what it's all about.

It is.

Just quickly catching up on

a couple of comments.

Paul Peter says, geez,

why does Olly Wilmot look

like Ed Sheeran's

Could have just said Ed Sheeran,

not Ed Sheeran's sister.

Just looks like Ed Sheeran

would have been enough.

Our very own Glenn Copeland says evening.

Evening, Glenn.

We'll see you shortly.

I mean,

the guys and I will actually very

quickly in a second bring

out Tom and Rob just to

participate in this,

because I know that they

are massive advocates of of your work.

Not just support, but the relationship,

because those guys were

telling me about how you're

at most of the meets,

if not all of the meets, and you enjoy it,

and you also take that as

the feedback for the work

that you're going to do on stuff as well.

Yeah, definitely.

We try to get to as many events as we can.

Not always possible.

We're quite busy with other projects.

We don't get a lot of time to do...

racing ourselves where we go

and have a bit of fun on

track but when we do we can

and like I say as much as

we can being sponsors of

the event we try and get to

as many as we can and hand

out the trophies which

gives us a nice

relationship not just with

the championship but with

the drivers as well so we

get to have a chat with the

guys that are racing and

it's just a nice atmosphere

and I think as a sponsor

it's what you should be doing

I've always said that it's

the same as I say to drivers,

the amount of drivers that

do that horrible thing that

I've watched them do when

they tried to get sponsors and they go,

uh,

let me put your company name on so you

can pay for me to go and

have fun in a race car.

I'm paraphrasing,

but that's basically what

it translates to.

Um, whereas to be able to,

to sort of like have that

fun with everybody,

is is a key thing because

because you you want to

make something of it don't

you as sponsors as partners

it works both ways with

that as well though so as

title sponsors and and

being a sponsor of

something like this to

actually go and speak to

drivers in some ways I

would say oh that was bad

timing no oh there he is

hang on he's straight back

It was only brief.

That was brief, Ryan.

You're fine.

Yeah, back to what we were saying.

Having that relationship

with the championship and the drivers,

from our point of view,

it sort of makes people

want to push us as well.

We've dealt with other

championships and the sponsors.

You say to them, have you met this guy?

Have you met that guy?

No, I don't know who they are.

I don't know what they look like.

And it's nice for us to turn

up to those events and say, oh, hi,

you're from Airtek and

which it works.

It's nice to have that relationship.

I agree.

Paul Sawyer says,

so when is Ryan going to

enter the series?

Oh, never say never.

Have you got your racing license?

I haven't.

It's something that I've

said about doing for a while.

I actually own an F56 JCW Mini.

I know it's not one of the

cars in the series,

but there's always room to

try something else.

it's the same as they nag me

as well as the fact I've

got to get my race license

because they keep trying to

get me out the problem that

makes me nervous is that

the commentator tends to

have a target on their back

if they're suddenly out in

a racing car but they've

got long memories of things

I may have said on the mic

this is something that we

have discussed it before about um

about having our own car in

a championship.

And again,

it comes down to the same sort of thing.

We've had it before where people go, oh,

they're the sponsors,

but they're driving in a championship.

What if they go and win it?

Oh, this is fixed.

Yeah.

It swings around about things like that.

Yeah,

the coordinators aren't supposed to

race in it as well, allegedly,

and things like that.

But no, I think you should be.

Rob says you could sell that

car that you just mentioned

and buy a race car.

Yeah.

And you'd have tyres for the

whole season as well,

probably then as well.

That's it.

There's a deal to be done.

There is, there is.

Look, very quickly,

I'm not going to play the transition.

I'm going to bring these two

out because at the end of the day,

this is Tweedledee and

Tweedledum that organised

the championship.

And, sorry guys, couldn't resist it.

He's dumb and I'm genius.

Yeah.

But, you know, Tom, you know, Airtek,

clearly, you know,

a partner that you're proud of.

Oh, absolutely huge.

You know,

what Rob said earlier about what

we've achieved over the last two years,

that wouldn't have been

able to have done without Airtek at all.

Airtek came on very early doors,

committed very hard.

And to be fair, you know,

everybody who's racing our

grid wouldn't have been

able to do that without Airtek.

And then, you know,

we don't have sponsors in all honesty.

We don't have people who just put them,

you know,

to me a sponsor is something who

puts something in really

and gets something kind of back.

We have commercial partners,

so everybody benefits.

You know,

our competitors benefit because

we can then do things for

reduced entry fee.

We can then give something

back to our partner as an air tech.

So this year it was

mandatory that everyone had

to run an air tech

intercooler through S53 and S56.

and then we also developed the rear wing,

which makes the cars look fantastic.

One of the things that I

picked up on that Andy said

was about parity in Cooper.

You know, we'll talk about it later on,

but we're looking for that

in Cooper S as well,

and one of the parity is also appearance.

You know,

you look at some of the photos

and some of this live stream we get,

it's all the cars look the same.

They look fantastic.

And that can be done with

people like AirTech and the

front splitter we're going to introduce.

It's going to look amazing.

The cars will just look fantastic.

So really, yeah, you know,

I can't speak highly enough of what Alan,

Ryan, you know,

have all done for Mini

Challenge Club Sport, really.

It's nice you say that.

Having the cars all

uniformed and looking the

same makes the championship

look better as well.

You know, and it makes our drivers feel,

you know,

sadly me and Rob are old racing drivers.

And, you know,

we go back to what we said before,

we were trying to build

something that we would

want to race in where, you know,

I know you talk about

camaraderie in the paddock, but you know,

it also ends as soon as the, you know,

you get out on that circuit,

you're not friends.

You kind of, you want to win the race.

Um,

So that's kind of back to

where we want it to be in club sport.

And the way the cars look is

very important to us and our drivers.

So, yeah, no, without Airtek,

we wouldn't be where we are now.

I can't believe he called

you an old driver then, Rob.

He talked for himself.

I mean, it's great.

The Airtek connection is

great because they're

well-known in motorsport.

You know,

they've got touring car

arrangements and you're

obviously involved with the

Fiestas and what have you.

So it's wonderful for us.

It's a sort of household

name in motorsport terms.

And as Ryan says, you know,

they can come along and

speak to the drivers.

I think, actually,

you're bringing up your special car,

aren't you, Ryan,

for Croft to have on display?

Yeah, we hope I do, yeah.

Yeah, we could do it, Croft.

Yeah,

so it's a wonderful relationship and

they're easy to work with

and they get the bits for

the boys and girls.

We can't ask for any more than that,

really.

Well, Ryan, opportunity then,

just do the promo bit

because it's the

opportunity for me to help

you give something back to you.

For those who don't know,

who are Airtek and how can

they get hold of you?

Yeah, so, to the point,

we're basically

manufacturers of intercoolers, radiators,

intakes, you name it.

They're all made in-house at

our HQ in Canby Island down in Essex.

And if I do want to check

out any of our range, which, again,

all the stuff that's on the... Oh, sorry,

lost my AirPod there.

All the stuff that's on the

Mini Challenge cars is

available on our website

for road cars as well,

which is airketmotorsport.com.

As if by magic,

I've put it on the screen already.

There you go.

Oh, look at that.

I was going to put your

email address on there,

but then I thought, actually,

that's not the one that you

want out necessarily quite as publicly.

But they can get hold of you

through the website.

I loved it as well.

I actually looked.

This will sound sad that it impressed me,

but I sort of went on to it.

And you literally have every

single manufacturer and

then all the different cars

under those manufacturers.

And I can go straight to the

car that I have and then

find what I can get for my car.

It was so easy.

Yeah, we try to make it as easy as we can.

Sometimes it can be a little

bit complicated with

certain manufacturers that

cross over to other different models.

But yeah, it's as simple as it is.

And our social media is always open.

We're Instagram, Facebook.

If anybody ever wants any questions,

they can send it over to us

and we get back to them.

It's not a problem.

Fabulous.

Ryan, anything else that you want to add?

No, I don't think so.

It's just a pleasure to be

involved and thanks for having us on.

Yeah,

I just wanted to make sure I didn't

miss anything.

What I will say is that Zach

Blackwell says, you can take mine out,

Ryan.

So there you go.

The funny thing is, though,

Jamie Ringer then said,

why would you want to take

out that old rust bucket?

I'm not one to stir, Raoul.

I'm not one to stir.

Well, I think that is accepted.

Yeah, exactly, exactly.

Guys, before I pop you two back in,

Tom and Rob,

anything else that you wanted

that I haven't covered with Airtek?

Over to you, Rob, really, on this one.

Nothing, really.

I mean,

looking forward to seeing you at Croft,

looking forward to seeing

how the Splitter comes out,

and we'll continue to come

up with new innovations.

I think that's what we're after.

Definitely.

Yeah, look forward to it.

Fabulous.

Well, Ryan, thank you so much.

I'll speak to you next week.

Thank you so much for joining us, Ryan.

It's been an absolute

privilege to meet you, mate,

and hopefully see you at circuit soon.

As I said to the others,

don't disappear when I put

you into the green room

until that progress bar fills up to 100%.

But Airtek, get in touch with them.

Absolutely brilliant.

Thanks for your support for

the championship.

And we'll see you soon, mate.

Not a problem.

Thank you very much.

Take care.

Right.

So that's that part.

That's that part.

Thank you to Ryan from AirTech.

We're now going to move on

to the R53 class.

And I've kind of just sort of

one of these, put a lovely comment in,

and then he was abused after that.

But hey, that's just the way it goes,

isn't it?

But let's bring out... I can

see him laughing as well.

Yes, Jamie,

I'm going to make sure you're

dropped in it, mate.

But we're going to look at the R53s.

So delighted to say that I'm

going to be bringing out

Charlie Newton Darby and Zach Blackwell.

They say that us men can't multitask.

I tell you what,

I certainly am getting all

of this happening, but we've done it.

But another man who was

multitasking was directly beneath me.

Welcome, gents.

Zach, just whipping himself home.

You made it back home, Zach.

I did.

I did.

Just about, anyhow.

Well, welcome, Jenson.

Thank you so much for joining us.

Let's talk about Donington

Park to start with.

Zach, from your side,

you won in the 56s last

year and the Airtek trophy,

which is the 53s and 56s together.

Is that right?

It is.

It is.

But this 53 that you've

switched into this year,

you've been developing this car.

Is that right?

To a degree.

I've been doing a lot of

setup changes throughout the season.

But other than that,

it's just a car that we started off with.

oh okay just uh I got the as

commentators we like being

fed this sort of like

romantic information that

you're developing it and I

pick up on that straight

away yeah to a degree like

there's been a lot of setup

changes um there's had to

be a lot of driver changes

as well because the car is

very different compared to

a 56 as well being with a

turbocharged and a

supercharged so you just

characteristics of them is

so different right I'm not

mechanically minded I i as

a commentator I'm the fan

in the box so explain that

to me what take us to to it

what what's the difference

what does it feel like well

so with the r56 uh the

whole front end of the car

feels a bit lighter and

being that it's got an

aluminium engine block um

as opposed to a cast block with the R53.

So naturally the R53 is a

little bit heavier on the

front and wants to push on

a little bit more going

through the corners.

So just learning slight

differences in the way to drive,

slight differences in setup.

Yeah,

it's just an ongoing thing and just

learning

battling my way for it like

my first my first two

rounds it was uh a proper

headache really yeah but

because it was so different

yeah yeah but um I managed

to get a a decent setup on

the car sussex road and

race helped me out there

and uh since then sort of

it's been behaving better should we say

i was kind of trying to

understand because there's

there's no moving up or

moving down between the 53s

and 56s it sounds like they

just literally are

different uh sorry what do

you mean by moving up and

down as in there is no you

wouldn't move up from one

to the other there isn't

are they that way or is one

class does moving up to an

s something or other no I

don't think so and I think

I think they've tried to

make it as competitive as

possible between the two,

between the two different cars.

But obviously with two

completely different engines,

although they look the same

on the outside,

two different engines is

quite hard to do that.

So yeah, it's just, and then like I say,

then from a driver's point of view,

getting in and driving both cars,

they are two very different

cars to drive.

Well,

Rob's put it in our internal chat here,

the question I was going to ask next,

which one do you prefer,

the 53 or the 56?

I would say the 53 is more

of a less forgiving car,

and you've got to be a bit

more on point with your driving.

The R53 with the turbo

allows you to get you out

of trouble if you...

maybe like not quite get the

right gear in a corner,

it will allow you to pull

you out of the corner and

you won't lose so much time.

Doing that with an R53,

you just end up basically

driving a Cooper if you're

in the wrong gear.

So you need to be in the right gear.

Fair enough.

Although Tom said you

preferred the 56 because it was easier.

It didn't make you sweat as much.

I was just about to say,

in terms of what I prefer to drive,

I'd say I prefer to drive the R53.

Well, it's more challenging, isn't it?

That's the beauty.

Definitely.

Before I move to you, Charlie,

just quickly, because this is funny,

just watching these

comments from our backstage

area that are coming in.

They've sort of said,

well done for getting your trophies in,

Zach.

Amazing what you can buy on eBay,

says Tom.

I'm not going to read... I mean,

Jamie's just really...

Rocking in.

Let's just say he's talking

about shining us.

That's all I'm going to say.

But Rob says that you're...

This is my partner's office, by the way.

It's not mine.

She's a part of all of this.

love it so they've been

winding you up for no

reason at all uh absolutely

love it um but switching

now to you charlie now you

have gone a different

change over you went from

the open to the 53s proper

class yes dropping down if

anything so yeah um you're

right I've changed cars so

it's easier for me a little

little bit but um it's

certainly been different

with a slightly slower car

and a lot more weight and

and um it's obviously a

different car to drive now

than what it was last year

when I could just take all

the weight out and go hell

for leather um yeah it's um

it's it's still obviously

same car so I haven't got

to like zach had to get

used to a completely

different car but uh yeah it's uh

you know, it is hard.

So yours was, it's the same car,

but you were, in the open,

you were able to do, in effect,

what you want to it, like you say,

ripping all the weight out,

whereas now you've kind of

stuck to the regs with it, in effect.

Exactly.

I mean, it's originally a Durex car,

and we just lined it and

lined it to the point where it was like,

couldn't really get much more out.

I mean, there's a few other things,

like a ripple to dash out

and that sort of thing,

but we're talking about

10 or 20 kilograms or

something you know um so we

literally took everything

out of it and now I'm

starting to put stuff back

in it you like to put the

old doors the original

steel doors back on to meet

the regulations and and put

a lot of weight on um

himself just to yeah

obviously I've done that as

well obviously having a kid

now I've gotten a few

pounds so to help me out so

take some out the car you

know um to balance it out

of it but um especially over christmas

um but yeah it sounds fun

that in other words it's

not just rock up with the

car there is the ability in

the different classes to

sort of have a bit of fun

play around with it's that

you've moved between two

different cars charlie had

the same car but you've

gone open of sort of like a

bit more freedom to now

sort of stick into the regs

of the the 53s it there's

quite a lot of creativity

within that as well

definitely definitely I think um

I like that you could just

change and do what it sort of tries to.

I mean, it's a bigger class as well.

I wanted to basically drive

with other drivers like

Zach that were a bit more on par.

I mean, in the open class,

it's pretty sparse.

There's only a couple of us, mostly, well,

four at the max.

So it's a bit of a... The

outcome was already on the

wall every time.

You knew what was going to happen,

but this is a bit more fun.

You've got a few more competitors, so...

It makes it a bit more interesting,

you know, just jostling with each other.

And obviously, we've had a good battle,

especially at Donington.

It was pretty close between me and Zach,

the whole race.

So I think I've got what I

wanted and I've come out of

it unscathed so far.

So I think it was a good

choice to come out of the Open.

Well, I mean, it's just so, so tight.

I mean,

I will just say is that sorry that

we haven't got anyone from the Opens.

I mean,

Stephen Berry just absolutely dominated

uh race one uh then it went

to ross alexander

switchback race two and

then stephen berry so they

mixed it up between the two

of them which is great to

see and and and we do love

watching especially I love

the uh the the hard top

convertible it's so cool um

but the fact is that we've

got all these different

classes at the moment

zach's leading the uh the s53 class

Charlie in second,

but there's not really an

awful lot between you when

you start doing drop scores and things.

And at Donington, Charlie,

you won the first race and Zach,

you came third.

So Charlie, to you first,

that was a great way to

start the weekend.

Yeah,

especially after the qualifying I had,

the absolute mare in qualifying.

I couldn't get the car right.

It was all over.

It was one way than the

other and it was all nervous and twitchy,

especially going down the

trainers where you really

don't want it to be

getting around all the

curves and I had a hell of

a time and I think I

qualified seventh or

something like that it was

it was a bit of a bit of a

nightmare show and then but

yeah race one I managed to

make a brilliant start back

in the old Santa pod days

and get up through the

field quite quickly and I

think that got a bit of a

problem so I think he

dropped back I was at the

back of him actually

I can't remember what happened,

but I think he cut out or something,

and I was right behind him at the time,

and I just had to switch

over to the right and

almost took Charlie Heatley

out at the same time,

trying to avoid Zach when

his car got out or something.

But, yeah, I think it was your first race.

I was gifted a bit, but, yeah,

because I think it probably

would have been quite close

if Zach didn't have problems.

You've got to be in it to win.

What was that problem, Zach?

My throttle pedal had broken.

oh really so yeah not not

locked down no no no so

basically they're they got

a sensor in them and uh the

the sensor just sort of

packed up and uh well I'm

I'm thinking that's what

the problem is anyhow

because the car cut out we

changed the throttle pedal

because when we put it on

the diagnostics the uh

the traces weren't running

parallel to the throttle body.

So we changed the throttle

pedal and I didn't get the

issue again for the rest of the weekend.

So fingers crossed that was

the problem and we don't

get any more of those issues at Croft.

I now know who your stirrer

in your championship is

because he's constantly

coming up with good lines.

Jamie Ringer has said that

you ran out of nitrous oxide.

That too.

Nitrous oxide talent.

uh I mean I probably just

stalled it going up the

hill to be fair and uh and

didn't realize so I love it

um but you came back from

that third place so even

with that problem you still

managed to get a third to

then kind of go no I'm back

on this you got it sorted

uh and then the next day

banged it in with two first places zach

Yeah, I mean,

I will say that I was gifted third.

Unfortunately, Charlie Heatley's,

I think he did a drive

shaft on the last lap.

His belt went.

Oh, yeah, so, yeah, belt went.

Done a belt.

supercharged belt so he was

basically driving a Cooper

for the last lap and it

allowed me to I think I

actually beat him by just

under half a second so it

was that close going over

the line but I mean like we

say that's racing like

Charlie here is he made the

most of my car playing up

and then I've made the most of

Charlie Heatley's car playing our pumper.

Unfortunately, in racing,

that's the way it goes sometimes.

No, exactly right.

But, I mean, Charlie,

you kept the consistency

going because you followed

up that win with a pair of

seconds as well.

So,

you're keeping the points going as we

go to Croft for the final round.

Yeah, yeah, but with the points,

the way they go, obviously,

Zach scored way more with

the fastest laps as well.

So,

um so you get six points for

a faster slap and uh so he

scored quite a bit more

than I did but uh I'm big

yeah I'm bigging it up come

on last round come on

charlie I'll take second

second yes first of the

losers uh I know my missus

always says the same oh you

have second that's great

I'm like yeah but yeah I'll

take it I mean you know

I'll keep trying till the

bitter end you know

We'll fight it out hammer

and tong till the last race.

Well, yeah, because at the end of the day,

we've seen how something could go wrong.

And for all we know, Zach,

you could end up at Crofton

having a nightmare.

I hope for your sake you don't.

But that's, again, is motor racing.

You just don't know, do you?

Well, I mean,

if we look at last year in the R56,

I went to Donington,

which was our last round last year.

And my...

I had a electrical issue in qualifying,

so I ended up starting from the back.

Then first race was

relatively problem-free, ended up second.

And then the last race,

my car caught fire.

So...

So, like, anything can happen.

Anything can happen.

All in all, Zach,

you had a better Donington Park this year,

then.

I've never left Donington

without having some kind of issue.

But, I mean, this year was better.

I will take the pedal doing

what I wanted to do in race

one over last year's events, anyhow.

Yes, quite.

No, it does sound good.

Charlie anyone that you want

to shout out to because

it's been a busy season for

you you're going to cross

still with enough of a

sniff that means that

you're going to be going

full out who do you want to

shout out to well the team

I suppose I better say

thanks because obviously

they're helping me out Lee

Campbell my teammate my

mechanic Mark Smith it was

just great with the car obviously he's

only way you can win it is

uh by actually finishing it

so he's been doing a great

job um yeah and um

obviously any sponsors want

to sponsor us that's great

because I haven't got any

sponsors so um well how do

you think about croft

charlie where where does

that sit with you how do I

think about it I don't know

I've never raced as croft

so no never been out there

so it's gonna be a new one for me

um I'll have to get in the

sim or something and have a

good practice yeah

absolutely do you do that

do you actually jump in the

sim before and yeah yeah I

mean I've built a single

rig in uh my garage to just

uh that's how most of the

tracks to be honest just

sitting down and uh on a on

an evening and just

pounding around do a few

laps on the one of the games and uh yeah

Yeah, because you turn up,

you know the track.

It might not be exactly perfect,

but you're not going to go the wrong way.

I take it you do it in a Mini.

Yeah,

I try to set up as best you can to

the power you've got and

everything else in the right car.

It could be a Peugeot or

something like that.

It depends on what they've got in the game,

but yeah, whatever.

You try and get as close as you can,

power to weight and things like that.

Well,

enjoy your practice on the sim

leading into it and best of

luck with that.

Zach, do you practice on the sim?

I do.

Good man.

Do you find it helps as well?

Oh, 100%.

Really?

Yeah,

they're so good that you can almost

pretty much mimic even

better the way your shitting is.

So it's pretty good in that respect.

I like it.

Okay, anyone you want to shout out to,

Zach?

Yeah,

just so my sponsors that have helped me,

because without those,

I wouldn't have been racing this year.

So we have Rip and Roll,

Robert Shaw Accountants, Rapid Metals,

EBC Brakes, Gripper Differentials,

Cooler Works, Dan Can Mini Shop,

and Joe 90 Minis.

That's why you've got no sponsors,

Charlie.

He's got them all.

I know.

Without those,

we wouldn't have had the entries.

Then I have all my family

that come to the races.

They all come and support.

It's great.

They always help out and get

us to the races.

I know that Tom's put in the

comments saying from both him and Rob,

the competition,

competition between you two

has been absolutely amazing.

And, you know, that has to not,

that's not just coming from the, you know,

the, the, the coordinators,

the organizers of the,

of the championship, but,

from the spectators' perspective.

We had it with the Coopers

having some great battles.

You guys having some

absolutely humdingers.

And me as a commentator,

it makes our lives easier

when there's stuff going on.

And keep it going, guys.

It's absolutely brilliant.

I can imagine it's a lot

more fun for you guys as well.

And how do you feel about Croft, Zach?

Been there before?

no I've never been there so

I'm looking forward to it's

a track that since I've

started racing that I've

wanted to go to because I

just from watching touring

car races there it just

looks like a great track

and it's got a good from

what I can see it's got a

good mix of high speed and

low speed so yeah I just I

like the way the track

looks the layout looks good

and yeah just hope for a

trouble free weekend really

Yeah, it's a very flat circuit, isn't it?

But there's a lot going on with it.

I think,

does that mean you want to come on now,

Tom?

Yeah, I'm just going to bring him out.

He wants to add something in closing and,

you know,

he gets precious in the back there,

doesn't he?

No, I just want to say, you know,

in closing really charlie

came down from can I just

say in closing to this bit

this isn't in closing yet

tom but this is no I mean

about 53. um you know last

year um 56 was probably the

the more numbers um zach

made a decision to go for

50 this year with a new car

charlie made a decision to

change his class to 53 from

open and to be fair the

competition between those guys

Again, on track and a little bit off track,

it's been great, you know,

and it's only testament to

what we're trying to do.

So I can only thank them

both for what they've brought to us.

Yeah, fantastic.

Brilliant.

Thanks, Tom.

Thank you both very much.

Sorry,

I was just typing in response to

Ryan's message.

Multitask.

Yeah, and I just remembered that I can't.

I can't think, type, speak and listen.

I think he wants to put the

dishwasher on or something.

I know he does and he's fine.

I need to get Andy Langley

back because he ducked out

too soon so he's got to

come back into this link.

to let it complete at some

point for us but that's

fine guys Zach Charlie keep

up the great battles keep

up the entertainment enjoy

it guys as well so good to

hear where you've come from

slightly different angles

on it and genuinely that as

well I think is a great

advert for this

championship as well to see

that side as well so thank

you very much for joining

us both and best of luck at Croft

Cheers, Chris.

Thanks, guys.

Thank you for rushing back.

I appreciate it as well, mate.

Cheers, guys.

Right.

Then we've got one more guest,

although I've got a feeling

that he was getting all cocky in the chat,

but he's now not so

comfortable about coming out on his own.

But I'm going to make him, Fred,

to start with.

payback jamie uh let's bring

out from the uh make sure I

got this absolutely right

from the r56s we're gonna

have jamie ringer you good

troublemaker how are you

man I'm good how are you

Yeah, I'm very good.

I'm very good.

Good stuff.

Thank you for joining us

because I know I was

informed that we weren't

sure quite when you were

going to be back because

you're with your lad.

I had to pick my boy up, yeah.

That's good.

Always cool now.

No, it was.

It was good.

It was good to get you back.

And I know I saw your

comment is that where's where's Freddie,

for example.

And, you know,

there's there's people that

we could be getting out

with you without question.

But we've got to sort of

like get them out at different times.

But you you only started racing last year.

That's right.

Yeah.

Back in the last year,

I did the last two rounds

just to see if I enjoyed it.

Well, I went to watch the guys at Fraxton.

And I thought, this looks cool.

This looks really cool.

And I've always liked driving fast.

So I was like, fast forward six weeks,

I've got a race car, trailer, kit,

license, da-da-da.

And then, yeah, been doing all right,

mate.

Been doing all right.

And is that as in literally

no racing or just none in the mini?

I've done motocross and bits and bobs,

but no car racing.

Really?

On a track, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Which is why Rob Austin says

you look like a skateboarder.

He's just jealous, mate.

I know.

It's an age thing that is.

It is an age thing, mate.

I hide that resentment, you see,

so it's fine.

Well, you know,

welcome to the world of

racing and what an exciting way to do it.

And what did you get?

You got,

you started off the weekend with a

pair of third places.

So you're banging it on the

podium in the R56s.

But you finished it on a high.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, we had sort of round before.

blew the engine up um put a

hole in the head so we had

to sort all that out and

then struggling with heat

issues all weekend car was

running at like 130 degrees

um tipping out water around

the track as we're going

around it wasn't ideal so

we have I was having a lot

race lap cool down lap race

lap cool down wrap and and just maintain

Block on my cool down lap as

best I could and then try

and open a bit of a gap again.

But yeah, race three, I was just like,

you know what, let's just send it.

Went for it, full chat,

heaters full on in the car.

But yeah, we did all right, mate.

I was happy.

Me and the team got some trophies.

Well, by the way, thank you, Andy Langley.

I can see that you've come

back into the green room

and it should show you when

it gets to 100%.

There's some bar and it will

tell you that you're full

up because it is uploading

the rest of your thing.

And as soon as it's done that,

you're free to go.

But to be fair, Jamie,

you've been giving them

sticks so they can give it back.

Zach says that it was the money shift.

The money shift.

Yeah.

That's what we were arranging.

He's telling everyone my secrets.

Shh.

Ah,

you thought you were on Fast and Furious,

didn't you?

I mean, he's the same NOS provider,

you see, so... I mean, genuinely,

from both a fan and a

commentator's perspective,

the mini racing is just...

they look brilliant cars.

I haven't driven one,

but they look brilliant cars to race.

Uh, although I did drive one, uh,

on the weekend at the motorsport,

the British motorsport show

doing an auto solo in the mini, uh,

that mini motorsport UK took there.

Um,

and and it just looks like a

fun car to drive but a

great championship to be in

there's always

entertainment there's

always yeah entertainment

on track entertainment and

drama off track it's uh

yeah I get the impression

that you you wouldn't want

it any other way I love it

I'm here for it yeah bring

it all do you still do the

motocross as well no no I

don't bounce anymore mate

as you get older

zach was um zach rode as

well zach was phenomenal at

motor really yeah yeah yeah

he was but as you get older

you don't you don't bounce

as well you just break

things yeah do you reckon

half of those trophies on

the shelf were motocross

ones then are they amazon

jobbies mate they've got

they're blank if you notice

you can't see the plaques

on them well although ryan

ryan from air tech was

pleased to see that there

was an air that's his only real one

Yeah, that's the real one.

And then Tom said that Lucy

won the rest of them, apparently.

Exactly that, mate.

Bidding on them.

Absolutely.

Well, I mean,

I haven't had a chance

because Tom's only just got

the championship standings

over to me about seven and

a half minutes ago.

Sorry, Tom.

um you're sat second in the

championship of your first

full year I mean that's

that's mind-blowing yeah I

mean I'm really happy I'm

really happy I mean I'm a

bit gutted at the same time

because obviously the

engine went at thruxton so

I lost three races um me

and freddie were having a

good old scrap for the

championship so that's put

me you know a hundred and

50 points behind him now,

140 points or something.

So, yeah, I mean,

Gary's quite close in third.

So if I can finish second in

a championship, first of the losers,

as Charlie said.

But it isn't, is it?

I mean, you're still,

the top three is still a

big deal in the championship.

But I have to say, Freddie Hewitt,

Gary Papworth,

they're other names that

I've seen around mini racing for many,

many years.

Yeah, exactly.

I'm chuffed that I'm up there with them.

Yeah, exactly.

Straight out the get-go.

That's really impressive.

Yeah, I mean, yeah,

I don't really know what to say.

I'll just get in the car and

put my foot down.

Do you do the sim to practice?

Yeah, yeah, I do.

I do a lot of sim stuff.

Not so much to learn how to drive the car,

more like Charlie says,

to learn the track.

Because then it's not a surprise, right?

You come into turn one,

you know that it's an off-camber turn.

So you're going to position

your car so you adjust your braking zone.

Then you get a feel for it in real life.

So you're not trying to

process so much information

because you know where the

corners are coming.

What's your... And Rob and Tom,

I've seen your comments.

I'll bring it in a second.

to somebody else that's kind of going,

do you know what?

I want to get into racing

and they see these minis as

good cars to get in.

What's your advice from

someone that either has

done nothing at all,

or maybe just dabbled with

a couple of bits.

Send it, do it.

I'm testament to it.

I've not done it before.

I, you know,

I'm in a position in my life

where I was like, do you know what?

I want to have some fun.

I'm fed up of working all the time,

paying to build the monotonous stuff.

I thought, you know,

I'm going to go have some fun.

And just go for it.

Just enjoy it.

But don't, you know,

don't listen to everyone that says, oh,

motorsport costs you X, Y, Z. Okay,

it costs you a little bit of money,

but you're going to have

them memories forever.

You know,

you're going to make them friendships.

You're going to have them memories.

Like the trophies,

you can look back at them

in 10 years' time and be like, yeah,

I earned them.

You know, like, mate, do it.

Just send it.

Don't even think about it.

Until you're on a show and

then you tell them that

they didn't earn them.

Yeah, well, Zach knows the truth, mate.

Don't worry about it.

Tom also said, obviously,

where you're talking about

the sim side of things, of course,

the championship linked up

with PASR as well.

That's right, yeah.

Yeah, they were at Donington.

It was a phenomenal setup.

It was awesome.

Yeah, because that,

I can't go purely from memory,

is that Mick Sutton and his crew?

uh you'd have to ask tom I

didn't even get to have a

go on it I was too busy

trying to sort out the

issues with the car but

well me and the team josh

and kevin because I saw

them on the weekend at the

british motor show and he's

trying to get me to

commentate on some sim

championship as well that

he's doing which which I

found is good because uh

you can still have jim

while you're commentating

for a moment exactly

exactly the last race you

can still have jim whilst

you're driving in the sim championship

I have heard that.

I have heard.

Motorsport UK will ban it soon,

but for now, you're all right.

You're all right.

I'm only joking, Motorsport UK.

It's all just good vibes.

I'm going to bring in now,

Rob wanted to come in and say... Oh,

here he goes.

I just wanted to look like Jamie.

Is that better, mate?

Mate, you're getting there.

What else do I need to do?

The hair.

Slick the hair back a bit in a cap.

A cat, yeah.

A cat, mate.

I'll be back in a minute.

Hold on.

You can take me out now.

Oh, no.

I tell you... Something like that.

See, to be honest with you, mate,

you look more like Paul Sawyer, I think,

like that.

You can take me out now again, Chris.

Tom says you look like Dave Lee Travis.

I had to give him his moment.

I had to give it.

See,

this is what this championship is all

about.

Paul Glenn Copeland.

Hi, Glenn.

Good to see you here, mate.

He's in the background going,

what are these numbers?

Glenn usually lurks, mate.

He's a bit of a lurker.

But you look on his face.

He's like, honestly,

what am I got myself into?

That's his happy look.

That's Glenn's happy look.

That's him excited.

I love it.

I love it.

You...

it's an obvious question.

You don't know, uh,

Croft cause you've only

just started racing.

So you definitely haven't raised there.

I've been doing it on the sim, you know,

I'm pretty, yeah, pretty comfortable.

I know where I'm going on it.

That's good.

That helps.

That definitely helps.

But do you think that it's,

it's one that's going to suit you with,

with this layout?

Um,

Yeah, it seems to be a driver's track,

right?

There's lots of places we

can make a lot of time,

lose a lot of time.

So I always try and be consistent.

right so does everyone

sounds a bit cliche but

consistency is key so and I

think that's the track

where you can be very

consistent through if you

get the car set up right um

you know we're hoping to

have the the temperature

issues sorted and the brake

issues sorted from last

round um so yeah I'm not

driving around in 30

degrees with the heaters on

full and the windows done

up geez that does not sound

fun in the slightest it's

horrendous all right as a

newbie what's been your favorite circuit

favorite circuit got to be

thruxton for me I mean I

only got to do uh quali and

half of race one there but

an awesome circuit fast

which is impressive because

yeah like you say is that

you you lost a chunk of it

but the fact that you you

still um it still stands

out to you means that it is

a powerful phenomenal it says I mean it's

coming through church flat

out waiting for the back

end of twitch out on you

hoping it doesn't it was uh

yeah I was gutted because

me and freddie were having

some I mean yeah croft uh

not croft sorry um castle

coom we were on each

other's bumpers for three

races we didn't we we were

on each other's bumpers um

and then moving into

thruxton I was like right

here we go then and we were

on each other's bumpers

again for the first half

and then obviously I had the

I dumped all my water, but that's racing.

It is what it is.

I was fortunate that, you know, Kevin,

the boys at SRR got the car,

like fixed it, you know,

obviously funding sometimes

an issue when you haven't got sponsors.

So they've helped me out where they can.

And got the car running again,

ready for Donington in like

four weeks time,

in like a four week timeframe.

That's incredible.

Yeah, incredible.

Yeah.

What they don't know, mate,

ain't worth knowing.

No, I can imagine.

I always get impressed by

the people around

motorsport that I get to speak to.

The knowledge and skills is

just incredible.

Anyone you want to give a shout out, Jamie,

that, you know,

and I don't just mean sponsors,

anybody at all.

Everyone I race with, like Zach, Charlie,

Ross, Freddie,

everyone that races in a

championship because, yeah,

we have our spits and our

spats and our rows and our

park for my stresses, but

a vibe in the pit lane I

mean you're going around

you're having a laugh with

each other everyone's

always there to help like

from parts to advice to it

it's a vibe mate it's a

real and like I think

anyone coming into it don't

feel intimidated that's all

like everybody's so

welcoming that's so I've

been doing it a year and

you walk around and you

chat to everyone everyone

will give you advice

Maybe not so much if you're winning,

but they'll give you advice.

Or you don't listen to it if

you're winning.

They don't listen to the advice then.

Yeah, and obviously Sussex Road and Race.

I was with another team

first half of the season, Shear,

but circumstances have changed.

So obviously shout out to

all of the sponsors that

helped with the first couple of rounds,

like Vapor, Rip and Roll and stuff.

But moved over to SRR for Ruxton,

I believe.

And yeah, the car's transformed.

It's not just the mechanical

knowledge that they as a team bring.

It's the racing knowledge.

And it's the almost mentoring they bring.

So I'm quite...

a hyper guy I'm bouncing off

the walls most of the time

and it's a big thing like

just bring it down before

you get in a race car don't

go in all excited just

chill out think of the race

just think of your corner

loads of little things like

they're yeah they're worth

their weight in gold mate

no it's a massive thanks to

them because literally

without them I wouldn't

have been finishing off the

season like no chance

I love it, genuinely.

I mean, that is just,

hopefully that sums it up

because it's great.

We've had some season, you know,

season racers.

We've had yourself rocking up very recent.

And it's just that sort of,

the realisation that you

can go and do it.

Anyone can go and do it, mate.

It's very welcoming.

Don't be daunted.

And in fact,

even the fact that a lot of

people know each other,

that really doesn't matter

in this championship in the slightest.

everybody's welcoming that Tom and Rob, uh,

and the team make a big

point of it as well with

certainly the Saturday night,

everybody gets together and,

and break down those barriers,

everybody together,

because you spend even more

time in a paddock than you

do on the circuit,

all of those kinds of things.

And there's good teams, good knowledge,

great cars.

Jamie,

I think you've summed up brilliantly,

mate.

You're just a real

ambassador for the championship from,

from that perspective as well.

So thank you so much for joining.

Tom, Rob, you hear that?

Uh,

That's not the person you

thought was going to be an ambassador,

is it, eh?

This yob.

Jamie,

I've loved your being in the background.

Seriously, winding the guys up.

Your banter's been brilliant.

Keep it up.

Don't ever stop.

The banter's great.

And I know that Rob and Tom

will love that because

they're the kings of banter as well.

So thank you.

Well, there is that, yeah.

Thank you so much for joining us, Jamie.

Best of luck at Croft, mate.

See you later, bro.

Cheers, mate.

Gentlemen,

that brings us to the end of the

driver interviews.

And I think that we, you know,

we did achieve the things

that we want to do.

I am going to bring out a

fourth face as well,

because he's getting frustrated.

He's in an uncomfortable car.

Where are you, Glenn?

Where are you?

I don't know.

I'm just parked in some

shitty services somewhere.

Living the high life.

Spend all day at Brooklyn.

I've got to sacrifice it somehow,

haven't I?

You turn this thing off.

You're a star, mate.

We didn't think we were

going to even be joined by you,

so for doing that is

absolutely brilliant.

I'll tell you what I'm going to do,

actually.

Momentarily, I'm going to remove you, Rob,

because you don't really

want to talk about regs, do you?

No.

I want to eat some cheese.

No.

I'll get you back in a minute.

You wait there, Rob,

because I'll get you back.

Let me know.

Yeah, I'll get you back, mate.

No problem.

But gentlemen, what is Tom doing?

Excuse me on my fucking study anyway.

Sorry.

Thanks.

Right.

Which of you should I come to?

Because you guys are

launching some changes in

the regulations for 2025.

Who should I start with?

Tom.

I knew that was coming.

we are launching some

changes and and if you

listen to what's been said

tonight from the guys

through from coupe actually

every driver who spoke

tonight um basically

they're looking for parity

and they're looking for

like everything across the

same cars being the same

and that's what that's what

attracts them to it um one

of the other things was

that obviously you spoke to

zach zach spoke about the

difference between the 56

and the 53. he's raced both

he's won in both

we strive for so long to

make them equal which is

what the original outset

was when we took the

championship on and we

can't do it so therefore

one of the biggest things

we are going to do is we're

going to split those

classes so therefore it's

not a case of the guys

beating themselves up they

can't beat a respective car

one's turbocharged one's supercharged

Both me and Rob have driven both.

Glenn's probably driven both in his time.

And they have so many

different characteristics.

So therefore,

that's probably the biggest

change is separating those

into individual classes.

On top of that will be then

the parity thing about how

we then equalize those cars

to control cost in one way

that people aren't striving

to try and develop a car

over and above what it'll

probably achieve um and

keep them on the grid yeah

makes sense so in other

words because that was the

only one that I got a note

of is the fact that it

won't be a joint 53 and 53

class in effect no no no

when we when the

championship was sort of um

when we took it over from

the Kumos they were trying

to equalise it lots of

people have spent quite a

lot of time effort and

energy trying to do that as

competitors and so we tried

to keep that going now

we've realised actually

they're spending money

we're trying to deliver

something that can't be

done therefore split it

reduce the costs increase

the competition build the grid Glenn

Yeah,

I agree with everything Tom's just said.

The whole idea of what we're

looking at doing for next

year is to equalise the

fields to make as good,

close and ideally cheap,

reliable racing as we possibly can.

We hope that will draw in

more drivers and by

splitting the 56s and the 53s,

as the drivers have said

and Tom's gone along with as well,

they are very different cars.

It is

You can try as hard as you

like to try and equalize them,

but because of the

different characteristics, it's very,

very hard.

So all you end up doing is

trying to put a limit on

one of the cars to make it

match the other.

Yeah.

Which in itself has a cost implication,

which we don't necessarily need to have.

So we'll split the classes up.

We'll make all the cars as

equal as we physically can.

Yeah.

try to keep costs down to a

sensible amount,

make the cars reliable so

the drivers can concentrate

on going racing and not

about how they're going to

go try and find another to

break horsepower because

they think that's what's

going to beat the car in

front of them because it won't be.

It will be your driving

ability and setup skills

rather than actual power

and all that sort of thing.

I don't know whether I should ask this,

and I probably should have

checked this with you beforehand,

but this is the joys of a live show.

I think you launched this at

Donington Park.

Were there any questions

that were raised that you

would like to get out to the masses now,

or was it sort of just

universally kind of like,

that's a good idea?

I think there's a lot of questions,

and I think there's more to come.

Um,

but what I think the understanding of

everybody is what we're

trying to achieve is to

reduce the cost to get on the grid,

you know, uh, an increased parity,

which again, you know,

is something that's come

across from everybody that, you know,

they want to be equalized.

Um,

and that's the biggest thing that we've

done in all lines.

The other things we've done

is we've reduced hopefully

the cost to build an engine

and in 53 and 56 by, you know,

introducing standard components.

certain maps in ecu's which

people have to spend a lot

of money on to try and

develop their own car um

and they're the biggest

changes of those two

classes really um but so

yeah glenn would you would

you go along with that yeah

I mean I i found since we

sort of announced this at

donington most of the stuff

that we get are as usual as

you expect from from

drivers the questions about

their own situation not not general

What about this sort of stuff?

So that can all be

relatively easy to deal with.

I've got no doubts when we

turn up at Croft that we've

had four weeks to think about it.

We may have slightly more

inundation and questions to deal with.

And I wouldn't expect any less.

You want them to ask questions.

You want them to give you feedback on it.

Because that's how you

develop the channel.

We can't always do

everything by ourselves.

We need feedback from the

drivers to know whether

what we're doing is right or wrong.

So...

Agreed.

And I think that's why the comment that,

sorry, Glenn,

I was going to say the comment, therefore,

is that from what Tom was saying,

is to understand where

these changes are coming from, Glenn,

isn't it?

So the questions,

the feedback is needed by

you guys so that it's not

you guys coming up with all

the answers on your own.

However, understand what the objective is.

Yeah, exactly.

Go on, Glenn.

Go on, Glenn.

Go on, Glenn.

Yeah, all I was going to say is,

I'll just follow up on what I was saying.

We've obviously looked at,

we've taken the feedback

off drivers through this

year about what they've

been doing to get their cars.

And we sort of looked at how

much people say they're spending on cars.

And we've got to the point where we think,

well, that's restricting drivers.

their enjoyment of the race

and sit and think, well,

I've got to go spend this time.

So we're just trying to make

sure that is limited and

make it easier for them all to come out.

Also,

if somebody wants to go build a new

car to come race,

it's going to be a lot

easier for them to do it.

No, exactly right.

Sorry, Tom.

We lost you briefly and then

you came back.

That's all right.

We got you back.

So generally speaking,

if they've got thoughts,

they've got ideas, they've got questions,

is that genuinely they should come to you,

Glenn?

Well, I mean,

any of the team will come and

put your questions to

whoever you feel you best

want to put them to.

At the end of the day,

we'll team up together.

The whole team will get

together and answer those

questions as best we can

and as honestly as we can.

But the goal always has to be to make

a championship that has good,

close racing and to a sensible amount.

Agreed.

Rob,

I think that you had some thoughts on

this as well, mate.

Well,

I was more interested in the problems

that Tom's got.

Oh, mate.

Has he not paid his electric bill?

I thought you were paying it for me, Rob.

Sorry.

I thought you were paying it for me.

I will if you only got a light bulb on.

No, I think the thing is,

what I would say is that, look,

if you go to an all-championship,

standard championship,

every year they bolt on costs.

Okay,

so they'll bring in new bits that

you've got to have mandatory parts.

Every championship's always

done it as a way of making money.

What we're trying to do

is do the opposite so we're

trying to reduce costs

reduce their running costs

and I think that actually

you know although I'm not

directly involved with the

regulations I was expecting

a lot a lot of grief at

donington and it didn't

come we ended up with a lot

of positive feedback I

think it was almost relief

from the drivers but as

glenn has said you know we

will still take a little bit of feedback

We know what we want to do,

but if there are things

that we think that would benefit,

then we will look at it.

And we've also given existing drivers,

you know,

six months really to implement

the changes that they need

to and give them an

opportunity to perhaps sell

parts that they've got on

their cars right now.

which we believe that

there's a market for.

And I think that actually, for us,

this is about where we go in the future.

And I think we know where we

are in the landscape of motorsport.

We want to bring in new drivers.

We want to bring in the dads and lads.

people are capable of

running cars on their own.

And we think that this may

be a good starting point.

We want it to be a starter championship,

but also encouraging those

who've been racing with us

for the past few years to

stay on and continue to race.

Absolutely.

What I will say,

because I'm allowed to say this,

I'm external for it.

For those of you who don't

necessarily know it or appreciate it,

what I will say is that

you've got this championship being run by

Ex-drivers and ex-team

managers that are running a

championship that they

would have wanted run for

them in the way that they

would have wanted run for them.

And that genuinely,

as I'm saying that externally,

and that is my honest opinion of it.

And it doesn't mean they'll

get everything right 100% of the time,

but they are open to listening.

They are not about the tail

wagging the dog,

but they are about

listening and making it

because they want more of

you out there racing.

It's a fun championship.

It's a competitive championship.

It's great cars.

I hope that I'm not

overstepping the mark by

saying this is that that's

my genuine opinion of the

mini challenge club sport

and what Rob and Tom and Glenn, et cetera,

picked up to really do with this.

So please take it as, as a positive thing.

As I hope I haven't

overstepped the mark by saying that,

but any other, yeah, that's it.

It's done now.

We're done.

But any other reg changes over that,

the 56 and the 53s?

They're the big ones, to be honest.

There's some other ones that

we've discussed.

Cooper will have a standard ECU map.

At the moment,

we allow them to have multiple.

So we're going to tighten

that up a little bit.

Although the discussion

between Andy and Ollie earlier,

how close the racing was,

actually the Thruxton race

between Dan Truman, Neil Clark,

Andy Langley, we probably don't have to,

but we want to do it to

make sure there's equality.

The open class at the moment

we're in discussion on, not going to lie,

you know, we've got some thoughts.

But they're the big, you know,

the big one really is the S

class and the splitting of

it and how we're going to

actually control cost to

get more cars on the grid,

which is what all our

racing drivers want.

Absolutely.

We heard from several of

them enjoying the races

that they were having with each other.

I agree.

Okay.

Does that finish with the

reg side of conversation?

Hopefully.

Oh, yeah.

That's fine.

Shall we let Glenn continue

his journey home?

Yes, we can.

I've found a comfortable position now.

I'm okay.

That's all right.

All right.

Just the last couple of

things before we end this show,

because obviously, uh, I've overran my,

my, my schedule, uh, a little bit,

but just the last couple of things was,

um, the championship standings, uh,

going into the final round

and a preview of, of Croft.

I mean, you know,

who should I come to first?

Rob, you, you haven't said, uh,

you haven't been on as much

as Tom because he logs, you know,

hogs the limelight than me, but, uh, um,

We go into the final rounds

with things all finely poised.

Well,

I think that drivers just need to

behave themselves to get

where they want to get.

It's as simple as that.

You know, as Andy says,

he doesn't really need to turn up,

but anything can happen, you know,

and drivers can lose points

through judicials, through anything.

You know,

if they decide to overstep the mark,

then they can suddenly find

themselves losing a place.

So it's an interesting one, isn't it?

I mean,

you have to learn to behave all the

way through and you have to

learn to collect points.

So it'd be great to see how

things pan out.

We have a number of very

hungry drivers who want to

win their classes.

We have a number of drivers

who have got points to

prove because they feel

that maybe they should, you know,

should have been up there

winning overall.

So yeah, it's looking good and it's,

you know,

it's poised as best as it could be.

But ultimately,

the cream always rises to the top.

So we'll see what happens.

Well, Glenn, I guess there's a big thing.

You shut up, Tom.

Glenn, there's...

His AAA battery's about to

run out in that room.

Well, that's true.

Yeah,

he's trying to get in before it runs

out again.

Glenn,

is that one of the key things is that,

yeah,

even if there's some where there's a

bigger gap,

is that there's a lot to be said to,

whilst they might not

necessarily be able to

suddenly take the lead of

the championship, to finish on a high,

they take that into the next year.

Well, yeah, there is that,

but on a note following on

from what you're saying, I think

for the final circuit to

have to finish was a proper

driver's track.

It should really bring some

really good racing.

It was my local track for 20 years.

Every time I get a chance to

go race there or take a

championship there,

I'm more than happy to go.

I do think it brings really,

really good racing because

of how the circuit is laid out,

the technicality, fast, slow bits.

So, yeah,

I'm really glad to take it there.

And I think you'll find

you'll get a few drivers

that will really click for the place.

And you'll get... I'm hoping

we'll get some slightly

different results because

obviously you'll get... It

is one of them circuits

where somebody can just

click with it and drive way

better than they have done

all season because they

just like the circuit.

Agreed.

I mean, I always did really well there.

I mean,

Glen will remember I went in both

races there and...

given him one of my trophies.

What's that?

I wasn't there that year.

You haven't been around for years,

but there we go.

But no, I think that it's a great second.

Jamie Ringer's just said he

probably wasn't born then, to be fair.

Yeah, no, the way he dresses...

I do apologise on behalf of

the championship, Chris.

I know you weren't expecting

a skateboarder, but never mind.

No, it's a great circuit.

And I think that actually, you're right,

Glenn's right.

It's going to scare a few people.

Jim Clark and, you know,

that corner and all that malarkey.

There's some pretty quick stuff there.

Well, Tom, I mean,

one of the things that

really stands out for me at Croft is,

compared to probably all

circuits that I can think of,

it's got to be one of the flattest.

I mean, all right, Thruxton's pretty flat,

but this just seems... I'll be honest,

for me as a driver, probably an ex-driver,

as Rob will soon say.

For me,

the nearest circuit is probably

home to you, Castle Coon.

Yeah, but you can't say that.

Think about Avon Rise heading up there.

You know,

it's... There are bumps and

undulations in Croft too.

There's a bit... You don't

realise you do climb a

little bit of a mound out

of the first chicane up towards,

what is it, Turn 4?

No, really.

Oh, it's bumpy, isn't it?

The only hill is the hill

over the railway circuit to

get the railway track to

get into the track.

Obviously, because you've never been there,

you wouldn't know.

OK.

Yeah.

I mean,

I know it's bumpy and I don't mean

that side.

And as Jamie said,

Croft is brutal on the car.

How do you know, Jamie?

He was brutal on his sim car.

I'm the same way.

When it breaks, he can press restart.

Was it shaking?

We can say what we like now, Jamie.

And yet again,

we've introduced a new track.

In two years,

we've introduced drivers to new tracks.

Thruxton last year, this year,

Castle Coombe and Croft.

And they've all been really well-recepted.

So, no.

Jamie's just corrected himself.

He meant Coombe was brutal on the car.

And, yes,

but we don't call him... That's

because he was nervous

about being on telly.

Yeah.

I can't believe that for a second.

On a serious point, for next year,

we've discussed this in

terms of the calendar,

which we're not going to

discuss too much tonight.

But it's our belief that we

would like to bring in

somewhere new each year,

somewhere different for the drivers.

And we will maintain...

I believe that we can try

and get the best circuits

available with the biggest crowns.

What the three of us have

got planned is very

exciting for next year.

Great.

Is that next month's episode?

Are we going to talk

calendars next month or is

it later than that?

It's probably a little bit early,

actually.

I mean,

we probably won't be able to release it.

What do you think, Tom?

Maybe November?

Okay, no, that's fine.

It's just because we have to

go through the pecking

order that is BTCC from Formula 1.

You know how it works.

All I'm doing is I'm trailing,

get people excited to tune

in to future episodes

because it will include a

diary release on them as well,

as well as abusing each other.

Yeah, I was intrigued by that.

It's going to be a different

venue each year.

It's like, hang on,

that can't go on forever.

Have none of you been to Croix in France?

I have.

I love it.

OK, I mean,

I think that takes us to the end.

The championships are finally poised.

We go into Croft for the final round.

As far as I'm aware,

it's going to be discussed

is that hopefully we shall carry on,

keep this community

together even after the

championship comes to that climax.

We'll be able to review Croft.

We'll be able to get excited.

We've got many other things.

people to get onto this show

hopefully you've now all

seen how this works that we

get to to get people on

there's so many subplots

and stories and uh I just

love this championship I

love what rob and tom have

done which I'm not

surprised because genuinely

there were two of the

characters sorry and glenn

but tom I've only met you

recently glenn but tom and

rob I've known for for many

many years and they're

always liabilities uh

they are lads they are

legends and they're just so

much fun and they'll say

that that's the same style

I have well there is that

yeah but they'll say that

my commentary is the same

style is the fact that I

like to have a laugh in my

commentary it's

entertainment first

commentary second is my

yeah you're supposed to

laugh with us not at us

I've learned from you.

Rob,

you've taught me to take the mic out

of everyone,

so there's no point saying that.

It's easier that way.

Yeah, exactly.

Anything else that we need

to cover in this show, gents?

I don't think so.

Have we got any outstanding invoices?

I don't think we have right now, so no,

not from me.

No, no, no.

Jamie said it's nap time for Rob now.

Yeah, yeah.

I slept during his interview.

The bad news is, oh yeah,

he has said touche, to be fair.

I could see he was about the time again.

But no, seriously, thank you to you guys.

It's been a brilliant show.

I hope it's been what you were hoping for.

Thank you to Andy and Ollie.

Thank you to Ryan from AirTech,

Charlie and Zach,

and of course to Jamie as well.

It's been a fabulous show.

It's been thoroughly enjoyable.

I hope that people have

enjoyed watching it.

Share it.

You can watch this back

after we finish going the

live bit as well.

Feedback to us.

Give us comments.

Give us stuff.

Who else we're going to get

on is down to these guys

and I shall just be ready

to go with the various interviews.

It's been a pleasure.

Rob,

you get to go and sit in a darkened

room now.

Tom, you're already in a darkened room.

You can go and find your life.

The time is perfect because

it's medication time.

I thought as much.

And, Glenn,

you can finish your journey back.

I appreciate you doing that, mate.

And for all the drivers.

And for all the drivers.

I know they did the same.

But from all of us here,

thank you for watching.

Have a very good evening.

Say goodnight, guys.

See you later on.

Goodnight, everyone.

Cheers, all.

See you soon.