Mystery Maniacs

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Mystery Maniacs Episode! In Podcast 174, we learn George had a secret fairy, Julia pours stomach milk and a poor woman cries bloody tears!
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Blickensderfer 6

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Creepy Girl

Lacrosse Poster


Murder By Phone

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Mark & Sarah

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Schedule for August & September
  • August 28 - Murdoch Mysteries S02.E07 - "Big Murderer on Campus"
  • September 4- Murdoch Mysteries S02.E08 - "I, Murdoch"
  • September 6 - September Newsletter
  • September 11 - Murdoch Mysteries S02.E09 - "Convalescence"
  • September 18 - Murdoch Mysteries S02.E10 - "Murdoch.com"
  • September 25 - Murdoch Mysteries S02.E11 - "Let Us Ask the Maiden"

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Creators & Guests

Host
Mark Bell
Co-host of Mystery Maniacs
Host
Sarah Smith-Robbins
Co-host of Mystery Maniacs

What is Mystery Maniacs?

Mystery Maniacs Podcast is a comedy recap podcast dedicated to British Mystery Television. Formerly, Midsomer Maniacs podcast.

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Sarah
Poor Lily. Yeah, I mean, she's got on that. Okay, stop. Hey, mate.

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Mark
Hey, mate.

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Sarah
Yeah. You've been saving that up for two weeks.

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Mark
Oh, my gosh. It's not two weeks. We've been gone a month and a fortnight.

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Sarah
Welcome back to Mystery Maniacs.

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Mark
Mystery Maniacs is a comedy recap podcast dedicated to mystery TV. Each week we dig into an episode of the show, including the murders, the mayhem, the loonies, and everything else We love This Week. Murdoch Mysteries Season two Episode Six Shades of Gray what was formerly known as the abortion episode, which is now renamed the glaring Typewriter Mistake.

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Mark
Episode.

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Sarah
Only in Marksville. There's so many more things to talk about. Before we get to the episode, though, we.

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Mark
Have a million things to talk.

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Sarah
It. It's been two weeks and of course.

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Mark
It has been 24 days.

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Sarah
A gazillion things have happened. First of all, we forgot to mention, what, three or four times when we had the opportunity. Yeah. That when we did the Maniac trivia.

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Mark
On the 29th of July.

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Sarah
That was 5 million months ago.

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Mark
24 days ago.

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Sarah
It was our four year podcasting anniversary.

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Mark
With 200,000 views on YouTube and over 335 down 3000 downloads. I would safely say we are well over 500,000 listeners.

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Sarah
Yeah, that's crazy.

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Mark
We have published 198 episodes. Well, audio snippets, that includes many in the trailers.

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Sarah
Okay.

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Mark
And this is episode 174. And if you take the episode length of 65 minutes per episode, which some episodes are longer, some more episodes are shorter, you get 11310 minutes of content or roughly.

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Sarah
How many hours.

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Mark
Are enough hours to fill up an entire week? More than seven days.

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Mark
Wow.

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Mark
So you can listen to as non stop for 75.

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Sarah
Hours a day for seven days and still have a little bit left over. Listen to the many episodes afterward.

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Mark
Yes.

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Sarah
In fact, sorry, we've inflicted that much on everybody.

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Mark
Four years is 212 weeks, which means we take roughly three and a half weeks off a year.

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Sarah
I simultaneously feel like we just started doing this podcast and that we've always done it. It's one of those feelings.

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Mark
I think we'll have more of those feelings because of the pandemic.

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Sarah
Yeah, it's just part of our routine now and it's so much fun and it's highlight of my week.

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Mark
And it's so pandemic related to me. I forget that we did it for almost a year before the pandemic.

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Sarah
Oh yeah, Back in the before days. In other notes, if you happened to listen to us on Stitcher, if that's your catcher of choice and you haven't heard Stitchers going away at the end of August. Yeah, they're part of the XM network and they're being absorbed like the Borg. So that app won't exist anymore. I am a big Stitcher user, and so I have spent the last few months trying out various other applications.

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Sarah
My favorite right now is podcast. But you know, it's what you get, whatever, you get used to it. So if you don't listen to us on Stitcher, you don't have to care about that at all. But you can find us just about anywhere.

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Mark
Yes, absolutely. Including the YouTubes. And don't forget to like and subscribe.

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Sarah
Yeah. Speaking of the YouTubes and the Internet.

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Mark
A couple of things. One, we had a listener ask us a very astute listener. Yes. Ask us whether or not Winter was dressed as the same superhero character as in midsummer that.

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Sarah
Troy.

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Mark
Troy had.

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Sarah
Secretly read the comics of and hid them in the Financial Times.

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Mark
Yes. So Troy read a comic secretly a very early episode. A market for murder. Mm hmm. And then there's.

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Sarah
The. But he read Hawkman The Hawk.

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Mark
The Hawk.

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Sarah
And then later, when there's a case that happens at a comic con and winter cosplays as Eagle Man.

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Mark
So they're not the same.

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Sarah
But it's a good catch.

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Mark
They have the same colors, the same brown and yellow.

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Sarah
Yeah, both birds. So I can. I never wondered that. But I can see why that listener wondered. And I think it was a good question.

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Mark
Yeah, it was a super good question because that's the kind of crossover they do.

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Sarah
Mm hmm. Speaking of cosplaying and fakery, there are fake organic besides all over the place, apparently trying to scam.

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Mark
People, especially on Instagram. He posted about it that first of all, he's never going to ask anyone for money, which I yanick.

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Sarah
Based on who plays Murdoch, doesn't need our money now. He's got plenty.

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Mark
And he says if you want to give anybody money, you should be choosing one of his favorite charities, which he listed off on his IG profile as something to give money for.

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Sarah
But if some Yanick based on an Instagram search saying, Hey baby, I like you, give me some money, be suspicious. Not that all of you are not attractive enough for Yannick Besson to think that you're beautiful or handsome or whatever. I'm sure. Yeah, but he's not. He's not really there.

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Mark
We have great listeners. We a listener who I posted a real this week on Instagram saying we'd be back and covering a couple of other things and listener elves and night said, Oh, it's my birthday when the next episode is so happy birthday, birthday elves and happy birthday. We also did a birthday request where we had an individuals contact us.

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Sarah
Who was one of our listeners. Sun emailed us and said, Hey, would you mind recording a message for my mom for her birthday? She really loves your podcast, and I just thought that was the best kid thing. Well, he's an adult, but like, that's such a good kid to know what your mom likes and think to ask and we have to do it.

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Sarah
So we recorded a little Happy Birthday video for her.

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Mark
And she's also a trivia night.

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Sarah
Winner. Yeah.

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Mark
So we had a that trivia night was super successful.

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Sarah
It was fun.

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Mark
We had a blast doing it. We're definitely doing it again.

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Sarah
Yeah.

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Mark
We had four winners. We handed out T-shirts, Dad to the winners.

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Sarah
And they've.

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Mark
Been they've. They've been.

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Sarah
They're all on their way. Yeah. You should expect them within a week of hearing this episode, I would guess.

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Mark
And then on top of it all, Instagram now has a feature called Broadcast Channels. So we have a broadcast channel called The Mystery Maniac Alley. Mm hmm. So what it is, is you get information from us because it's not a two way communication.

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Sarah
It's just broadcast.

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Mark
It's broadcast.

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Sarah
But only other members of the alley can see it.

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Mark
Yeah, like behind the scenes stuff. Yes. Pictures of all.

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Mark
Of.

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Sarah
So this is a new thing for us. It's a new thing for Instagram. So we've just been kind of experimenting with it a little bit, posting little random things we would love to know what you would like us to post about. If you want to see behind the scenes, if you want to see photos, if you want to know what topics we're looking at for the next episode or anything like that, just send us some ideas, send us a message and let us.

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Mark
Know like a direct message to.

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Sarah
Us on Instagram.

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Mark
It is absolutely fine if you want to. I already answered some questions that we had, and I think that we should mention that we're really busy.

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Sarah
We always say that. But man, the last two weeks and we could not have planned better to take two weeks off. It was like the universe went, Oh, you're not recording the podcast. Let me fill that void.

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Mark
Yes.

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Mark
Like the void in my tooth that rotted out. And I had to go to the emergency doctor.

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Sarah
Mark had a tooth that broke and then like, turned black and it was like overnight. It was horrible. You poor.

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Mark
Thing. Not good.

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Sarah
One of our kids literally had a cancer scare. Thank goodness it is. It is not cancer. We've had biopsies and all that stuff. But I spent a good two weeks being absolutely terrified, not knowing what was going to happen. That's all. It's all okay now.

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Mark
Jenga and the major release at work kick start like it just goes on.

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Sarah
It's been a little crazy, but I'm so happy to be back recording the podcast.

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Mark
Oh, a good thing that we can put on the broadcast journalism secret Halloween pictures.

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Sarah
Oh yeah.

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Mark
Like in process picture.

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Sarah
Because I'm in full crazy, old.

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Mark
Crazy Halloween mode. Never mind the fact that I have to go home and.

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Mark
I home first.

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Sarah
We have and this is not an exaggeration to to 13 foot skeletons in our dining room right now. In the boxes.

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Mark
In the boxes still? Yes, they're.

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Sarah
Still in the boxes, which I think are probably bigger than the skeletons will be there. Like for my for my for their enormous.

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Mark
Enormous.

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Sarah
Boxes. Our dining room is completely filled with skeletons.

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Mark
Never mind the fact that we have four in the podcast studio. Well, for one, no, they're just regular skeleton.

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Sarah
Because, you know, that's normal.

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Mark
And the 60 pumpkins, we have a room. Somebody at work the other day was like, Are you guys getting ready for Halloween? I'm like, Dude.

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Sarah
Okay, it's August and Sarah has been working on it since February. Yeah. Yes, we're getting ready. You could say that.

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Mark
Okay. Speaking of getting ready, this is shades of gray.

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Sarah
Yeah. Original stamp. This. You can put a note in that says if you don't care about Sarah and Mark and what's going on in their Nazi mobile lives, you can just skip to that point in the timestamps to actually hear about Murdoch.

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Mark
The last two weeks, there have been more nights, I think more than 50 nights then that we got to bed and we're like, I am too exhausted to turn off the.

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Mark
Light.

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Sarah
And I'm sure everybody listening has had times like that, too. Hopefully when you're having a crazy time like that, maybe having a random Mystery Maniacs episode to listen to lightens like.

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Mark
Two or three people said we are super funny on on the Facebook this week.

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Sarah
That's nice.

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Mark
It's very nice. Fine. We're just B which is funny, smelly, but we're just true to what we are. This is why you get.

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Mark
Stinky people with microphones.

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Sarah
It's that stink of vision. Stink of pod, though, so that's okay. Okay. Shades of gray. Let's talk about it.

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Mark
Originally broadcast March 10th, 29, directed by Don Mcbrearty. And I think you're not going to be surprised with written by a young woman named Laura Phillips. Let us deal with the elephant in the room right up front.

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Sarah
Okay. We're just going to say this. This is a heavy episode. It has to do with the legality of abortion and the burdens that women, unfortunately still have in getting good medical care. It's a heavy topic. This is not a heavy podcast. We acknowledge the importance of the topic, but we're not going to dwell on it because we're here to give you a little bit of fun.

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Mark
Yep. And if you listen to us for more than 5 minutes, you will be well aware of where we sit on this debate and.

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Sarah
We don't even need to talk.

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Mark
About it, don't even need to talk.

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Sarah
About it. There's so much to pick on and make fun of and love and laugh about in this episode. And that's what we're going to focus on.

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Mark
Like I.

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Mark
Blood.

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Sarah
For Lily. Yeah, she's got on that. Okay, stop. Scott on that pretty lavender dress.

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Mark
Yep.

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Sarah
And her eyes are just shitting blood.

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Mark
She's doing well.

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Sarah
Do you know what they call it when your eyes bleed? Specifically, when you. When you. When you tear, when your tears are bloody.

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Mark
Because it's tears, isn't it? Yes. What's happening?

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Sarah
Yes, you know it. It's no other than really bad.

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Mark
Blood over my tears.

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Sarah
It's called hemolytic.

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Mark
Really things I don't want to happen to me.

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Sarah
No. Hemolytic aria, which I think sounds like a character from a old Greek play.

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Mark
What's up there? No. Swedish heavy metal band.

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Mark
You like real? Oh, him. M.A., you must marry this guy over here, Antonio, or something? I don't know.

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Mark
Hematoma.

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Sarah
Hematoma, Hematoma. And he. I must get married. Yeah. She's not doing well.

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Mark
No.

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Sarah
And other than a guy who stumbles endurance as. Pardon me. Nobody seems to.

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Mark
Care. No one cares. And certainly.

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Sarah
Is that how Toronto is? Is that how Canadians are?

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Mark
The biggest person that doesn't care is big.

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Sarah
Gosh, her boss.

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Mark
Will get to.

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Mark
Him.

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Mark
This incorrect typewriter.

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Mark
Statement.

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Sarah
Meanwhile, Julia has purchased a present for Murdoch.

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Mark
Okay. Before that, Murdoch is looking at pictures.

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Sarah
Yes.

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Mark
And he is looking at pictures on a white table.

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Sarah
Yes.

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Mark
Which hasn't been invented yet.

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Sarah
But it's not like a big leap. Like once you've got transparencies of film, you would know, Well, shining light through these helps movie projectors already exist. They're not broadly adopted, but they exist. If you've ever held something up to a window, I don't think I'm going to make it a big deal.

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Mark
Our first electrically LED light table was patented in the 1915.

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Sarah
Okay, but it's Murdoch. He invents stuff. This is an anachronism.

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Mark
By Dick, who was then bought by Edison. So a lot of the early.

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Sarah
Oh, I thought you were just insulting somebody.

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Mark
No, no.

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Sarah
That was the name of the company.

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Mark
Yep. AB Dick. It's called a Mimi Scope.

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Sarah
And that's a bad name. Yeah, it's a light box.

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Mark
Yeah, it's a light box.

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Sarah
Somebody was trying to be fancy.

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Mark
They used to have, like, Dick and Edison on the top of them.

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Sarah
Speaking of Dick, can I tell my New Zealand story or my give my New Zealand quip? Because I'm wondering if we have anybody in New Zealand who listens.

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Mark
They may be able to help us with this. We've been trying to figure out New Zealand accent.

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Sarah
People are bracing for what I'm about to say. Like where she's going with this. I've been listening to a lot of New Zealand podcasts lately and I noticed this little idiosyncratic secrecy in their accent that the word decade, as in ten years.

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Mark
Decayed.

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Sarah
And dickhead is in an injected sound. Exactly the same with a New Zealand accent. And it's not that it's confusing because you don't normally have the context where it could be either one of those words. But if you keep calling somebody a decade.

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Mark
Like if you're from New Zealand.

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Sarah
Are you saying you're.

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Mark
Just ten years, ten years, you're such a ten.

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Sarah
Year? Anyway, they sound exactly the same anyhow.

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Mark
Is this a kissing show?

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Sarah
Oh, yeah.

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Mark
Yeah. Well.

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Mark
This is a dumb film.

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Sarah
This episode is a bit kissy, and then it's.

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Mark
No, no, no.

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Sarah
But this. Like, we will now finally acknowledge that we are a couple and I will kiss you when I see you. Yeah. And find excuses to kiss you.

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Mark
Yeah, that's sweet.

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Mark
But he has a present.

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Sarah
But he works in a glass office.

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Mark
Well, here's the windows closed so that no one can block out like many of. I went a long way for that joke.

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Mark
You? Yes.

00;15;56;05 - 00;16;04;07
Sarah
She has purchased Murdoch, a Collins bullet extractor. She said, I saw it and I couldn't. I just couldn't help myself.

00;16;04;12 - 00;16;06;24
Mark
There I was street shopping.

00;16;06;27 - 00;16;12;28
Sarah
Mediately, thinking, what store is this? And it's not like next to the lipstick.

00;16;13;02 - 00;16;22;17
Mark
Well, there's a there's kind of a trope later on in the show that Julia shops in these hard to reach unknown, secretive.

00;16;22;17 - 00;16;42;15
Sarah
Shops, but they're like hardware stores. And in places like today, she was just at the Ladies Surgical Implement Emporium or something. Look, checking out this year's model of the rib spreaders. Yes. And then she just happened to see this new bullet extractor sitting right next to it. And it was an impulse buy, you know, So.

00;16;42;15 - 00;16;55;21
Mark
Collins bullet extractors were created in the civil War because a lot of people got shot, so they needed to remove a lot of bullets. Do you know what the original name of the Bullet extractor was?

00;16;55;23 - 00;17;00;21
Sarah
Memo light. No. Cold bullet. Bullet. Cheap machine.

00;17;00;21 - 00;17;01;28
Mark
No.

00;17;02;00 - 00;17;03;20
Mark
K bullets. Scoop.

00;17;03;22 - 00;17;05;11
Sarah
Yeah, because they were spoons.

00;17;05;11 - 00;17;06;25
Mark
Yeah, they're spoons. Yeah.

00;17;06;25 - 00;17;15;05
Sarah
They're really because they were pulling shot. Yeah, right. Not a bullet. Yeah. That has a, you know, a shape. It was just led shot.

00;17;15;09 - 00;17;19;10
Mark
Well, now that Henry knows there's kissing, everybody knows that.

00;17;19;13 - 00;17;24;13
Sarah
Your body knows. It's like a whole place is blushing. And Batman, their eyelashes.

00;17;24;15 - 00;17;38;27
Mark
Boy, the first scene of this when they find the body is I'm a new director and I wish to show my director chops, so I will do silhouette. I will do bird's eye view. I will do turn camera stuff.

00;17;39;02 - 00;17;40;09
Sarah
It is a drainage ditch.

00;17;40;09 - 00;17;41;05
Mark
Yes.

00;17;41;07 - 00;17;44;27
Sarah
Poor Lily has been dumped naked in a drainage ditch.

00;17;44;27 - 00;17;46;19
Mark
That's not Lily.

00;17;46;24 - 00;17;47;25
Sarah
That's Freddy Pink.

00;17;47;25 - 00;17;49;08
Mark
It's Freddy Pink.

00;17;49;11 - 00;18;02;20
Sarah
If you've seen any more of Murdoch other than season two and season nine, this actress, Alex Peyton Beasley, comes back and plays a woman private detective named Freddy Pink, who is fantastic.

00;18;02;20 - 00;18;03;10
Mark
She's awesome.

00;18;03;10 - 00;18;17;23
Sarah
I love. She's in a bunch of episodes. Yeah, but you recognize her right away. Yeah, but Julia just thinks, Hey, Naked body, let me manhandle her or woman handle her personally. She's got nothing on except a bracelet.

00;18;17;28 - 00;18;21;11
Mark
Yeah. Look at her thighs.

00;18;21;13 - 00;18;40;19
Sarah
I'm glad that they have a female coroner on this show, because otherwise, as a woman actress, having to play a corpse who's nude. Yeah. And manhandled and a man's manhandling you, I think that would be much more uncomfortable than to have Julia Ogden groping you and lift in your limbs and go and look how floppy she is.

00;18;40;19 - 00;18;43;16
Mark
She's so floppy slop instant.

00;18;43;18 - 00;18;49;01
Sarah
She's got no blood in her body, no water in her lungs. No. She's recently lost a baby.

00;18;49;04 - 00;18;50;04
Mark
It wasn't forced.

00;18;50;09 - 00;18;51;03
Sarah
She wasn't forced.

00;18;51;05 - 00;18;51;15
Mark
No.

00;18;51;18 - 00;18;53;08
Sarah
That's what her mom wants to know.

00;18;53;09 - 00;19;03;02
Mark
Murdoch to her talks to the mom. And I'm sitting there looking at the shots going, why is there no over the shoulder shot here? Somebody is being a good director.

00;19;03;05 - 00;19;07;29
Sarah
We were just criticizing the director, you know, being too dramatic. And now you're.

00;19;07;29 - 00;19;16;21
Mark
Saying he does a good job. Okay. Now there's something here that happens at the end of the scene that a Canadian would pick up, that an American wouldn't pick.

00;19;16;21 - 00;19;24;09
Sarah
Up the scene with Lily's mom. Yes. Okay. So in the in in the morgue or in the police station?

00;19;24;10 - 00;19;29;17
Mark
In the police station, she says she didn't want to go to the doctor because it would be too expensive.

00;19;29;18 - 00;19;32;15
Sarah
Right. Because this is before nationalized health care.

00;19;32;17 - 00;19;50;08
Mark
And Murdoch kind of has this look on his face. And I'm not reading into this because I definitely know this is what this is, because they do this again later on, they kind of wink, wink at the camera and go, and this is why we have health care and we're not stupid Americans.

00;19;50;12 - 00;19;52;09
Sarah
Yeah. Aren't you glad.

00;19;52;09 - 00;19;55;06
Mark
You live in a country with health care now.

00;19;55;12 - 00;20;00;08
Sarah
So you don't have to make decisions like Lily did? Well, end up bleeding from your eyes?

00;20;00;09 - 00;20;11;12
Mark
They do it later on. Like I think I know there's a scene where George goes. Wouldn't it be amazing if everybody had just had health care? Yeah, Like, clearly that is being said, it's a.

00;20;11;12 - 00;20;12;09
Sarah
Wink, wink, nod, nod.

00;20;12;09 - 00;20;18;14
Mark
Yeah. And then the next scene, which shall be referred to as the typewriter scene.

00;20;18;16 - 00;20;19;14
Sarah
No.

00;20;19;17 - 00;20;20;06
Mark
Yes.

00;20;20;08 - 00;20;21;28
Sarah
It's assholes and mascots.

00;20;22;00 - 00;20;23;04
Mark
Yet while he.

00;20;23;05 - 00;20;28;27
Sarah
Okay. Bixby. As soon as you see him before he even speaks, you're like, That man's a jerk.

00;20;29;03 - 00;20;29;28
Mark
Yes, he's.

00;20;30;03 - 00;20;31;03
Sarah
Definitely a jerk.

00;20;31;03 - 00;20;33;07
Mark
He's got the asshole act. Askren.

00;20;33;10 - 00;20;45;14
Sarah
Yes. And talks about his secretary, who is right there in the next room. Like in the same room, like arm's distance. Talks about her like she's not there.

00;20;45;14 - 00;20;46;00
Mark
So this.

00;20;46;00 - 00;20;53;18
Sarah
Is. I had to fire her because she couldn't keep up. Yeah, God forbid somebody just have one off day. You just let them go.

00;20;53;23 - 00;20;54;02
Mark
Yeah.

00;20;54;03 - 00;20;56;19
Sarah
And I would have been fired from so many jobs.

00;20;56;19 - 00;21;12;11
Mark
I'll explain that in the typewriter rant when I get there. This is obviously discussing what's happening in 1890. North America and Europe, which is women are going into the workplace for the first time.

00;21;12;18 - 00;21;14;09
Sarah
They go to secretarial college.

00;21;14;09 - 00;21;29;13
Mark
Unfortunately, they get hypersexualized in the notion of a secretary being in an affair with their boss becomes this trope. It's horrible. It it is a way that toxic masculinity rebelled against women coming into the work.

00;21;29;13 - 00;21;33;17
Sarah
Unfortunately, I think it was probably accurate. Yeah, in lots of cases.

00;21;33;17 - 00;21;34;29
Mark
I agree with, because.

00;21;34;29 - 00;21;42;25
Sarah
These are workplaces where men were not used to having women present, and as soon as the women were there, they were like, Oh, a toy For me.

00;21;43;02 - 00;21;49;17
Mark
What they do really well in this scene is you get a sense of office and you only ever see two people.

00;21;49;20 - 00;21;50;02
Mark
Yeah.

00;21;50;07 - 00;21;53;15
Mark
And part of that is the typewriter noise going on in the background.

00;21;53;17 - 00;22;02;14
Sarah
Mm hmm. Never mind. It's the wrong typewriter. Mark, tell us about why it's the wrong time. Okay? You're dying to do this.

00;22;02;16 - 00;22;07;00
Mark
He says, is a cradle new model.

00;22;07;08 - 00;22;17;24
Sarah
Basically saying he's purchased a new typewriter for the office, and Lily couldn't adapt to the new machine, so she was too slow. Right. That's why he's saying that.

00;22;17;29 - 00;22;26;03
Mark
This is a completely new keyboard. Okay, So this is understandable. That is this would happen. Is it.

00;22;26;03 - 00;22;26;19
Sarah
Quirky?

00;22;26;19 - 00;22;35;23
Mark
No, it's not. Where he that's the thing. She probably used a typewriter that was too quirky and then switched to this one that wasn't worthy.

00;22;35;28 - 00;22;39;02
Sarah
And was it with the intent of slowing typists down?

00;22;39;03 - 00;22;49;19
Mark
No, it was fewer keys because it has this amazing finger like cylinder that all the all the text is on.

00;22;49;19 - 00;22;51;17
Sarah
Instead of having arms that go up.

00;22;51;22 - 00;22;55;02
Mark
Like a Selectric typewriter that came out in the sixties.

00;22;55;03 - 00;22;59;21
Sarah
Or a laser, one of the not laser printers, but the plot printers.

00;22;59;21 - 00;23;08;06
Mark
Plus printers. Yeah. So if you wanted to change the font, you just took the cylinder off and put a new one on, which was impossible with other typewriters. Yeah.

00;23;08;06 - 00;23;12;08
Sarah
You couldn't replace the font without replacing all of the arms connected to every letter.

00;23;12;08 - 00;23;15;25
Mark
On top of it. It is incredibly beautiful typewriter.

00;23;15;25 - 00;23;16;21
Sarah
It is very pretty.

00;23;16;21 - 00;23;20;07
Mark
It has like flowers on the top of it is.

00;23;20;07 - 00;23;21;23
Sarah
Because it's for ladies.

00;23;21;26 - 00;23;33;23
Mark
Clearly meant as a machine to be used by ladies. The typewriter she is typing on is not a new model. I don't think they can probably afford a grand old new model.

00;23;33;27 - 00;23;39;02
Sarah
They would. They would rent it from a collector. It's what they do with old cars and stuff.

00;23;39;02 - 00;23;42;07
Mark
Clearly she is typing on a big cylinder for her.

00;23;42;07 - 00;23;46;22
Sarah
Six Bixler for Blixen Darfur. Blixen Darfur.

00;23;46;24 - 00;23;52;15
Mark
Yes. She is clearly typing on a Blix in Darfur six.

00;23;52;20 - 00;23;55;12
Mark
Is that one of the reindeer I think screwed off?

00;23;55;12 - 00;23;56;29
Sarah
Go vixen Go.

00;23;56;29 - 00;24;01;15
Mark
Blixen Durdle door.

00;24;01;17 - 00;24;03;19
Sarah
Okay, so have we heard it out?

00;24;03;21 - 00;24;06;00
Mark
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00;24;06;03 - 00;24;08;03
Mark
No, no.

00;24;08;05 - 00;24;10;11
Mark
So that type writer let.

00;24;10;13 - 00;24;11;11
Sarah
The Blixen do.

00;24;11;13 - 00;24;29;19
Mark
The Blixen. Darfur is is is not as pretty, but is still nice. I like it. It is a quirky keyboard. Okay, so his comment that she could not keep up with the new technology is kind of okay, okay. If he had actually shown the new technology.

00;24;29;21 - 00;24;48;29
Sarah
Because it would have been I mean, okay, so we we if you don't know, we say quirky keyboard because if you look where your right hand sits on a keyboard, it's its cue. But you are t y. Yeah. And that spells quirky and that is the shorthand for that arrangement of letters on a keyboard.

00;24;48;29 - 00;24;49;29
Mark
Which we all have.

00;24;49;29 - 00;25;09;28
Sarah
And there have been and there have been times in history where the letters were arranged in other ways, like alphabetical or all of the vowels were together and the consonants were on the other side of the keyboard and different things to either slow people down, to prevent typewriters from locking up the app or to allow them to go faster, one or the other.

00;25;09;28 - 00;25;30;03
Mark
And the Crandell typewriter was there. So that was had a different keyboard because the cylinder needed to be fit differently and the engineering made it so that you could switch the cylinder up. So your depress. Each key on the Crandell had three purposes. It had the upper case. The lower case, and then another symbol.

00;25;30;07 - 00;25;33;02
Sarah
It was like texting on an old phone where you had to press the number.

00;25;33;08 - 00;25;40;12
Mark
Kind of not an easy thing to type on. So the public in Darfur. Six.

00;25;40;14 - 00;25;40;27
Sarah
Mm hmm.

00;25;41;03 - 00;25;46;05
Mark
Absolutely. And concurrent with the time both these typewriters are, how much do you think that.

00;25;46;05 - 00;25;49;09
Sarah
Was in then? Money? Yeah. $12.

00;25;49;09 - 00;25;51;11
Mark
$50. Wow.

00;25;51;11 - 00;25;52;10
Sarah
You could buy a car for.

00;25;52;10 - 00;25;57;07
Mark
That, which would be the equivalent of 1800 dollars today.

00;25;57;10 - 00;26;01;00
Sarah
Shazam! That's. That's a new fangled computer she's using.

00;26;01;00 - 00;26;14;17
Mark
The Crandell is $70 more or roughly equivalent to 20 $500 today. These were top of the line. Yeah. Machines. They're absolutely like the latest computer.

00;26;14;17 - 00;26;24;12
Sarah
Well, I am confident that Bixby only purchased it so he could brag about it and not because he actually wanted any kind of efficiency or modernization. He's a jerk.

00;26;24;15 - 00;26;28;08
Mark
I absolutely agree. And this is the typewriter portion of the radio.

00;26;28;11 - 00;26;36;17
Sarah
He buys bracelets for all of his secretaries. Yeah, because it's like a sign of ownership, because he has an affair with every one of his secretaries.

00;26;36;22 - 00;26;38;21
Mark
It's Dr. Cash.

00;26;38;23 - 00;26;40;11
Mark
Not Trask.

00;26;40;14 - 00;26;42;18
Mark
Which is weird. He's from the rowing episode.

00;26;42;18 - 00;26;46;21
Sarah
Yes. So he's from the infamous Walk in the Woods with Murdoch?

00;26;46;26 - 00;26;47;18
Mark
Yes.

00;26;47;18 - 00;26;49;08
Sarah
Talking about skinny dipping or something?

00;26;49;08 - 00;26;57;17
Mark
Yes. And we all think that him and Dr. Ogden have had something go on while they were in Montreal at school.

00;26;57;20 - 00;27;01;02
Sarah
Right. But it wasn't a relationship. You know, dating will mean.

00;27;01;02 - 00;27;01;14
Mark
That they.

00;27;01;14 - 00;27;07;27
Sarah
Find out they were just really good friends. He has a giant tooth poster in his office like he's a dentist.

00;27;07;29 - 00;27;20;25
Mark
When Murdoch and George leave Murdoch, it's a great scene because George is like, isn't he the guy who, like, loves Julia? Julia loves him. Murdock's like, we have to go right now.

00;27;20;25 - 00;27;29;00
Sarah
Isn't he the doctor that Dr. Alderton made out with when they were in college? Kind of like you guys do now. But we look away when you do it.

00;27;29;07 - 00;27;35;06
Mark
Murdoch does such a great job of being jealous, and I could care less because there are two posters behind.

00;27;35;06 - 00;27;37;15
Sarah
Them when they exit his office.

00;27;37;22 - 00;27;39;23
Mark
The first poster is frightening.

00;27;39;24 - 00;27;41;17
Mark
It's so creepy.

00;27;41;19 - 00;27;47;18
Mark
It's a little girl with a skipping rope. I could find nothing about this poster.

00;27;47;21 - 00;27;57;14
Sarah
It's not a skipping rope, it's graft. The way she looks, she is so creepy holding that jumping super. Maggie, I'm going to strangle you with this Mommy.

00;27;57;14 - 00;28;02;11
Mark
She. Her face kind of looks like the Guy Fawkes mask.

00;28;02;12 - 00;28;10;22
Sarah
Well, it's one of those colorized photos. It's a black and white that's been painted over to add color to it, and it's done very poorly. So she looks really scary.

00;28;10;25 - 00;28;18;19
Mark
The other poster really confused me because it talks about the royal family at a cricket ground.

00;28;18;26 - 00;28;19;11
Sarah
Okay.

00;28;19;15 - 00;28;21;27
Mark
Including the queen. I was like.

00;28;21;27 - 00;28;22;26
Sarah
Victoria is dead.

00;28;23;01 - 00;28;29;01
Mark
This is weird. And then there's a date on the poster, 1886.

00;28;29;08 - 00;28;29;22
Sarah
Oh, it's.

00;28;29;22 - 00;28;31;23
Mark
Old. It's so. It's old.

00;28;32;00 - 00;28;32;14
Sarah
Yeah.

00;28;32;18 - 00;28;40;25
Mark
So it's two years before I'm like, What is this a poster for? I had no idea this thing happened, and it's super interesting.

00;28;40;25 - 00;28;43;12
Sarah
Why did they have a ten year old poster hanging up?

00;28;43;15 - 00;28;50;18
Mark
I think mostly because I imagine these things, the set dressers of the episode.

00;28;50;18 - 00;28;52;06
Sarah
Don't expect people like us.

00;28;52;06 - 00;28;56;02
Mark
Don't expect people like us and intentionally put that poster back there.

00;28;56;02 - 00;28;56;18
Sarah
Okay.

00;28;56;20 - 00;29;08;29
Mark
Because what happened was in the 1870s, a bunch of English Canadians and a bunch of Iroquois Indians who are probably more Canadian than.

00;29;09;01 - 00;29;09;17
Sarah
They are.

00;29;09;18 - 00;29;13;09
Mark
Than they are, went to England to show them lacrosse.

00;29;13;16 - 00;29;17;12
Sarah
Oh, because lacrosse was invented by Native Americans.

00;29;17;19 - 00;29;35;07
Mark
13 Canadians from Montreal Lacrosse Club and 13 Native Canadians from the children. Wagah reservation. They went to Belfast, Dublin, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Newcastle, Sheffield, London, seven locations in London, Brighton, Bristol and Manchester.

00;29;35;07 - 00;29;36;11
Sarah
That's quite the tour.

00;29;36;11 - 00;29;39;06
Mark
27 games over 52 days.

00;29;39;06 - 00;29;41;24
Sarah
And they just had demonstration games of lacrosse.

00;29;41;25 - 00;29;45;16
Mark
Yep. And the Queen came out and thought, That's awesome.

00;29;45;16 - 00;29;47;21
Sarah
That's a there is a story there.

00;29;47;21 - 00;29;52;17
Mark
She said. It was an interesting game. I there's a story there.

00;29;52;18 - 00;29;55;28
Sarah
Yeah. Like, like what happened on that tour bus.

00;29;56;00 - 00;29;57;22
Mark
Like you.

00;29;57;22 - 00;30;08;07
Mark
Can obviously like tell a story of racism. You can tell the story like there's so many things that you could tell the story about this story. So I'm going to look into that further.

00;30;08;08 - 00;30;28;13
Sarah
I've read stuff about First Nations people teaching. Colin That's how we play lacrosse and how they introduce them to the game. Yeah, and how it was one of the things that they kind of could get together about and they used it sort of as a, as a way to like, rough out like smooth out corners of relationships. You know, they would bring people together to play a big game.

00;30;28;15 - 00;30;30;04
Sarah
I had no idea they went on tour.

00;30;30;04 - 00;30;37;10
Mark
I need to do more research about this event because it's an incredibly interesting event that is just there on poster in the background. It's not.

00;30;37;11 - 00;30;40;19
Sarah
Thank you, said dressers for telling us about this important event in history.

00;30;40;19 - 00;30;44;12
Mark
Speaking of set dressers, Dr. Tash has a big old TV.

00;30;44;15 - 00;30;45;20
Mark
But she has a.

00;30;45;21 - 00;30;47;14
Sarah
Big nasty teeth poster.

00;30;47;15 - 00;30;51;24
Mark
It was like, that's the tooth that died.

00;30;51;27 - 00;31;08;07
Sarah
He will not tell Murdoch anything about Lily because he's claiming doctor patient confidentiality. Yes, but Lily is dead. Yes. And I wondered, is there still a confidentiality clause if the patient is dead and there is.

00;31;08;10 - 00;31;09;28
Mark
Oh, to this day.

00;31;09;28 - 00;31;10;15
Sarah
Wow.

00;31;10;15 - 00;31;11;11
Mark
I didn't know that.

00;31;11;14 - 00;31;16;11
Sarah
HIPA applies up to 50 years after you're dead.

00;31;16;13 - 00;31;17;19
Mark
Wow. Yeah.

00;31;17;25 - 00;31;18;15
Mark
I didn't know.

00;31;18;16 - 00;31;33;15
Sarah
They can share anonymized data for, like, research purposes, but anything that would actually identify you as an individual cannot be shared for at least 50 years after you die. So he would need a subpoena, I think, to get that information.

00;31;33;18 - 00;31;34;26
Mark
I think that's fantastic.

00;31;34;27 - 00;31;36;02
Sarah
Yeah, it's important.

00;31;36;04 - 00;31;38;03
Mark
Other professions need to have that.

00;31;38;09 - 00;31;46;21
Sarah
And Barbara, the same thing is true of lawyers as well. Yeah. Even if you're dead, they can't just give away your private information and share it.

00;31;46;21 - 00;31;49;12
Mark
I could only think that it would harm the family.

00;31;49;14 - 00;31;54;21
Sarah
It's just. It's private. It doesn't make sense. Yeah. So they go back to Lily's house?

00;31;54;27 - 00;31;55;18
Mark
Yeah.

00;31;55;20 - 00;31;58;07
Sarah
With Bertha, her mom, who seems very sweet.

00;31;58;13 - 00;31;58;28
Mark
Yes.

00;31;58;28 - 00;32;09;10
Sarah
And they look in her room, and it smells of bug repellent. Yes. She's like a for, like, mothballs. Yeah, but they find her diary.

00;32;09;18 - 00;32;17;14
Mark
Well, is it her diary? Because George astutely notices that it is pretty vanilla.

00;32;17;15 - 00;32;26;18
Sarah
It's easily found in the top drawer of her dresser. Yeah, And she probably keeps it because her mom's nosey. Yeah. She wants to tell her mum what she wants her mom to know, and.

00;32;26;18 - 00;32;30;13
Mark
That maybe there are other things she doesn't want her mum to know.

00;32;30;14 - 00;32;34;20
Sarah
And George says that he had a secret diary when he was a kid.

00;32;34;22 - 00;32;37;22
Mark
What is in George's secret diary?

00;32;37;22 - 00;32;56;01
Sarah
So for those of you who are relatively new to Murdoch, you don't know that. And I'm not ruining anything that George was raised in Newfoundland. He was an orphan, raised by a house full of women who are wonderful to him and raised him very well and were kind to him who.

00;32;56;01 - 00;32;57;11
Mark
He called his aunties.

00;32;57;18 - 00;33;11;16
Sarah
His aunties who all have the names of flowers like Aunt Lily and Daffodil, and they are prostitute, which I don't think he knew until maybe some.

00;33;11;17 - 00;33;13;23
Mark
Later episode where he puts two and two.

00;33;13;26 - 00;33;26;14
Sarah
Yes. So I can just imagine his childhood diaries like, Dear Diary, today I learned where babies come from, but I can't tell any of my aunts because they are too delicate to know such information.

00;33;26;16 - 00;33;33;12
Mark
Well and all sorts of George weirdness. Like today I went down to the harbor and saw the mermaid.

00;33;33;14 - 00;33;34;25
Mark
Yes.

00;33;34;28 - 00;33;39;03
Sarah
I saw the Sasquatch again in the woods. He said to say hi to Aunt Lily.

00;33;39;04 - 00;33;41;29
Mark
You know.

00;33;42;02 - 00;33;50;02
Sarah
Because again, you find out later that he's into all kinds of, you know, alternative conspiracy aliens and cryptids and all kinds of stuff.

00;33;50;03 - 00;33;51;04
Mark
This is this.

00;33;51;04 - 00;33;53;10
Sarah
Maybe I would pay to read that.

00;33;53;10 - 00;33;55;03
Mark
Diary. Yes.

00;33;55;05 - 00;34;08;06
Mark
This may be my favorite, George. Seen in the first two seasons, because George is a good detective in this episode. Yeah. He's also respectful and knowledgeable about women.

00;34;08;09 - 00;34;15;26
Sarah
Yeah, because when they find count, as Faustus tells. Yeah. He says maybe this is having to do with the monthly thing.

00;34;16;02 - 00;34;18;10
Mark
Like, no. He calls in a monthly flow.

00;34;18;11 - 00;34;25;24
Sarah
George knows what he's talking about. Yeah, well, he was raised by a house of women. Yes. Again, we have to remember that.

00;34;25;29 - 00;34;32;22
Mark
Countess Flowers does female regulators. They do what a woman needs done.

00;34;32;26 - 00;34;36;01
Sarah
That kind of label was everywhere on the scene back then.

00;34;36;01 - 00;34;37;02
Mark
Absolutely.

00;34;37;09 - 00;34;52;15
Sarah
And it was all like this vague language out. They do what a woman needs done. Yeah, like get a jump rope and take care of the cross. Man, I didn't know a pill could do that. It's amazing.

00;34;52;16 - 00;34;57;17
Mark
We'll put the picture of the scary girl with the the skipping rope in the show notes.

00;34;57;20 - 00;35;09;27
Sarah
When Julia takes a look at the medicine to see what's in it, she says there's ru savin cottonwood bark and black cohosh in it. Yeah. And yes, they're all known.

00;35;09;27 - 00;35;11;00
Mark
And bought and efficient.

00;35;11;03 - 00;35;44;02
Sarah
And it should be a board of fact and an herbal medicine. But and I looked them all up, the only one that had anything remotely interesting in terms of its medical use. Yeah. Was seven. Yeah. I have to just read this to you. Okay. According to Garden herbs dot org, I quote the stimulating virtues of seven the it for cleansing carbuncle and for benefiting baldness so blisters and baldness when mixed with honey, it has removed freckles with success.

00;35;44;04 - 00;35;51;20
Sarah
The leaves dried and powdered serve when applied to dispel obstinate warty experiments about the genitals.

00;35;51;22 - 00;35;52;25
Mark
Oh.

00;35;52;27 - 00;36;01;14
Sarah
So you have to dry the leaves, mix them with honey and smear them on your naughty bits to get rid of more. I think that's going to introduce other problems.

00;36;01;14 - 00;36;03;17
Mark
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00;36;03;20 - 00;36;08;22
Sarah
You may not have those warty ex goods into anymore, but now you got sticky junk.

00;36;08;23 - 00;36;13;20
Mark
And important to remember, we've had a tough week, but we have not have the toughest time.

00;36;13;23 - 00;36;21;16
Sarah
We didn't have to use this honey seven post. Please note we are not advocating any of these uses of the No.

00;36;21;20 - 00;36;23;22
Mark
Okay. No.

00;36;23;25 - 00;36;33;12
Sarah
This put that in there a little bit, but I love cleansing carbuncle and benefiting baldness. What is a what does it mean to benefit baldness?

00;36;33;20 - 00;36;38;28
Mark
Maybe you get a little stubble back. I guess, but I wouldn't know with my.

00;36;39;00 - 00;36;42;14
Sarah
Lush head of hair that would be benefiting hair growth.

00;36;42;21 - 00;36;44;14
Mark
Yeah. So not bald.

00;36;44;14 - 00;36;48;10
Sarah
But not benefiting baldness. Looks like it's pro baldness.

00;36;48;12 - 00;36;51;15
Mark
I demand to see the Russian ambassador.

00;36;51;18 - 00;36;57;15
Sarah
Yes, because Countess Festa is drug into the police station. But her real name is Sally Smoot.

00;36;57;21 - 00;36;59;26
Mark
I This is just so well done.

00;36;59;26 - 00;37;02;00
Sarah
No wonder she goes by Countess.

00;37;02;02 - 00;37;06;13
Mark
She turns around and sees Brackenridge. Reagan knows the jig is up.

00;37;06;13 - 00;37;09;25
Sarah
Hello, Tommy? Yeah, He's like me now.

00;37;09;26 - 00;37;18;13
Mark
He switches to the what I love. She's a great actress. So, you know right away that Russian accent is fake.

00;37;18;14 - 00;37;19;04
Sarah
Yes.

00;37;19;06 - 00;37;26;13
Mark
And then she switches right to a really good Irish accent. I'm like, She's a great actress.

00;37;26;15 - 00;37;29;21
Sarah
She's played by Mary Walsh. She's been in lots and lots of things. Yeah.

00;37;29;23 - 00;37;30;05
Mark
Yeah.

00;37;30;07 - 00;37;31;29
Mark
She appears as this character, too.

00;37;31;29 - 00;37;49;24
Sarah
But like, Bracken, Reed has her number. He is encountered her before, so she she just drops the act right away. So she's count as foul. She's also known as the Countess of Sumac Street. Yes, Right. And fake royalty is a con that goes way, way back.

00;37;49;26 - 00;37;51;27
Mark
There was a king of San Francisco.

00;37;51;28 - 00;37;58;03
Sarah
Yeah, well, there's certainly lots of people who have claimed to be lost. Members of royal families like Anastasia.

00;37;58;03 - 00;38;00;13
Mark
Oh, he was king of America and lived in Salford.

00;38;00;14 - 00;38;05;02
Sarah
Yeah. So? So she's Countess Fausta. What would your fake royal name be?

00;38;05;02 - 00;38;06;19
Mark
Well, I think a would count.

00;38;06;22 - 00;38;08;15
Sarah
Hmm. Okay.

00;38;08;17 - 00;38;15;06
Mark
And then I'm probably thinking maybe Marcus Aurelius or something fun like that.

00;38;15;08 - 00;38;18;25
Mark
Marcus Humor. Like real.

00;38;18;28 - 00;38;21;07
Sarah
I thought you might be Archduke Aardvark.

00;38;21;10 - 00;38;26;15
Mark
Oh, I could be Archduke Aardvark if we have not discussed this.

00;38;26;18 - 00;38;29;17
Sarah
That you have that you used to be nicknamed Aardvark.

00;38;29;18 - 00;38;35;09
Mark
My to do. My brother and his wife call me Aardvark. He's probably screaming.

00;38;35;09 - 00;38;38;06
Mark
In the podcast now.

00;38;38;08 - 00;38;40;08
Mark
He mentioned that I'm called Aardvark, but.

00;38;40;09 - 00;38;47;22
Sarah
I think I would be viscountess Artemisia. Oh, because Artemis shows one of my middle names. That's Viscountess Artemisia.

00;38;47;27 - 00;38;56;11
Mark
We need to have that would be a good thing for your class to do, is to make an old timey fake label. Yeah, because they'd have to look at a bunch of old labels.

00;38;56;11 - 00;39;02;24
Sarah
Yeah, you're right. For graphic design. Yeah. Yeah. Let me tell you about a fake royal who you've probably never heard of.

00;39;02;24 - 00;39;03;27
Mark
Okay.

00;39;03;29 - 00;39;12;09
Sarah
Speaking of Countess Fausta, in the 1820s, there was this guy named Greg McGregor. Do you want to guess where he's from?

00;39;12;12 - 00;39;13;21
Mark
Would he be Irish?

00;39;13;23 - 00;39;15;07
Sarah
Scottish? Okay. Yes.

00;39;15;07 - 00;39;16;11
Mark
Mick McGregor.

00;39;16;11 - 00;39;17;03
Mark
Met Greg.

00;39;17;10 - 00;39;24;08
Sarah
Yes. Yes. He was a Scotsman who pretended to be the cacique of Yay!

00;39;24;11 - 00;39;26;14
Mark
Oh, the Corsica boy.

00;39;26;14 - 00;39;31;09
Sarah
Yeah. Puyi was a fake South American country that he invented.

00;39;31;10 - 00;39;32;07
Mark
Oh.

00;39;32;10 - 00;39;48;10
Sarah
Now how he pulled that off? I don't know, Because, you know Greg McGregor definitely had red hair, but he was from point A in South America. He fooled lots of people into investing and real estate empire.

00;39;48;12 - 00;39;51;21
Mark
So this is Prince of Nigeria scam.

00;39;51;21 - 00;40;03;09
Sarah
In 1822, a bunch of these investors got on a ship and sailed to South America to go start their new lives on their new real estate found jungle and no poor yay!

00;40;03;13 - 00;40;06;25
Mark
No, there is no boy in South America.

00;40;06;26 - 00;40;12;01
Sarah
They were rescued, but only after 180 of them died of disease.

00;40;12;01 - 00;40;12;20
Mark
Well.

00;40;12;23 - 00;40;22;15
Sarah
There were that many of them. Wow. That 180 could die then it wasn't even half of them. Wow. And of course, Greg McGregor was nowhere to be seen.

00;40;22;15 - 00;40;23;09
Mark
No, he.

00;40;23;09 - 00;40;24;11
Sarah
Was long gone.

00;40;24;12 - 00;40;25;18
Mark
Oh, God.

00;40;25;20 - 00;40;27;15
Mark
With all of their money.

00;40;27;18 - 00;40;35;12
Sarah
Off going to be a Corsican someplace else, I was like, Man, what a racket. And two years he did it.

00;40;35;13 - 00;40;40;02
Mark
Yeah. So speaking of con men, Smooth Ali gives up. Yeah.

00;40;40;04 - 00;40;48;16
Sarah
Fitch, another doctor who? She says she has sort of referred young ladies to who are in need of abortion care.

00;40;48;19 - 00;40;49;03
Mark
Yeah.

00;40;49;05 - 00;40;51;13
Sarah
Fitch is a complex character.

00;40;51;21 - 00;40;52;10
Mark
He is.

00;40;52;14 - 00;40;52;29
Sarah
He.

00;40;53;05 - 00;40;55;04
Mark
And he's a realistic character.

00;40;55;04 - 00;41;05;26
Sarah
He's sort of bad and sort of good in the end. He's somebody who carries naked ladies around. They're dead. Yeah, they're flabby. Flabby already.

00;41;06;02 - 00;41;11;06
Mark
I wouldn't have thought he would have stole the bracelet, but then the plot couldn't move in the direction it did.

00;41;11;07 - 00;41;23;19
Sarah
Exactly. So Tash says that Fitch may have. No, I'm sorry. Fitch says actually, it's not him that Tash performs abortions. Tash being Ogden.

00;41;23;19 - 00;41;31;04
Mark
Julia's and sneaky Murdoch goes sneaking two dashes out and sees.

00;41;31;10 - 00;41;32;16
Sarah
Julia leaving.

00;41;32;16 - 00;41;33;14
Mark
Hugging him.

00;41;33;15 - 00;41;44;03
Mark
Oh, dun dun dun dun. Jealousy, rage, workaday in the absence he.

00;41;44;03 - 00;42;02;07
Sarah
Does because he gets the impression when he talks to Julia that she and Tash have compared notes and that she is now lying to him about how Lily died, that she died of parent chemo, liver damage. And he thinks she's covering for Tash.

00;42;02;07 - 00;42;11;11
Mark
I know our podcast demographics is mostly lady, but to the men out there, I'm going to give you a little hint. Do not interrogate your girlfriend.

00;42;11;13 - 00;42;13;14
Sarah
No. Well, he's right, though.

00;42;13;18 - 00;42;14;13
Mark
He is right.

00;42;14;15 - 00;42;17;04
Sarah
She can't give her benefit of the doubt. I mean, he's dead.

00;42;17;06 - 00;42;21;12
Mark
He is right. But he could have dealt with it a little better. Okay.

00;42;21;15 - 00;42;23;22
Sarah
Murdoch is not high on the tax scale.

00;42;23;24 - 00;42;26;09
Mark
New at this. Okay.

00;42;26;10 - 00;42;27;27
Sarah
He's not used to having a girlfriend.

00;42;28;00 - 00;42;33;17
Mark
He's not used to having a girlfriend. But I'm just telling you that maybe this is.

00;42;33;20 - 00;42;37;17
Sarah
He might have said I happened to be leaving Tasha's house.

00;42;37;17 - 00;42;37;27
Mark
Yeah.

00;42;38;00 - 00;42;44;09
Sarah
I'm glad you guys are still friends. Did you talk about Lilly? Are you lying about Lilly? Are you covering up a murder?

00;42;44;12 - 00;42;50;08
Mark
Those young people in their hunches actually turn from the second 20?

00;42;50;10 - 00;42;53;05
Sarah
Only if it's used as a thrusting motion.

00;42;53;06 - 00;42;54;21
Mark
Yes.

00;42;54;24 - 00;43;07;18
Sarah
George, It's like I have this hip new word. It's hunch. It means when you get, like, an intuitive idea, it's this new word with the kids. Like, you just see all these, like, kids on the street with their little flat caps going.

00;43;07;19 - 00;43;11;09
Mark
Hunch, hunch. Cool, Daddy, hunch. You know.

00;43;11;12 - 00;43;12;17
Sarah
Because George is down.

00;43;12;19 - 00;43;13;17
Mark
And the kids.

00;43;13;19 - 00;43;20;15
Mark
And it is so well written because it also is the air of George. You don't know what you're talking.

00;43;20;17 - 00;43;37;21
Sarah
He's using slang. Yeah. The first time it's used in print, meaning an intuition or premonition is 1904. According to the Oxford English Dictionary. So he is ahead of his time with his hunch, but he uses it like nine times and it's. But he's right.

00;43;37;21 - 00;43;38;13
Mark
Yes.

00;43;38;16 - 00;43;52;17
Sarah
He decides, You know what? This bracelet is not actually cheap. Maybe I should be going to different jewelry stores to ask about it. Finds just the right one where a certain Mr. Bixby is having many of them made for all of his special ladies.

00;43;52;20 - 00;43;59;10
Mark
There is a scene transition here and in my notes it is entitled Stomach Milk.

00;43;59;12 - 00;44;03;21
Mark
Stomach milk. It's out. That's got stagnant.

00;44;03;24 - 00;44;11;18
Mark
Julia is so upset that Murdoch has accused her of not looking at the stomach contents. She rushes right to the fridge.

00;44;11;18 - 00;44;17;18
Sarah
And rips the stomach out of a corpse, ties one side of it up with cotton twine, and then pours it into a glass.

00;44;17;21 - 00;44;18;26
Mark
Stomach milk.

00;44;18;29 - 00;44;23;06
Mark
You know, it's like grayish pink.

00;44;23;08 - 00;44;31;03
Sarah
At least it's thin. Yeah, it's not like syrupy. It can be worse. It's not a very good rubber stomach.

00;44;31;05 - 00;44;32;00
Mark
Yes.

00;44;32;02 - 00;44;37;24
Sarah
So that helps. But she's still pouring it like a gravy boat.

00;44;37;26 - 00;44;42;03
Mark
You know, it's still in the.

00;44;42;05 - 00;44;49;27
Mark
She goes to Sally Smooth and they discuss things that women use to abort pregnancy.

00;44;49;28 - 00;44;53;15
Sarah
Not all of us were born with a silver spoon stuck up our ass.

00;44;53;17 - 00;44;57;09
Mark
Yeah, she does.

00;44;57;11 - 00;45;00;12
Mark
Well, Julia is super rich, Remember?

00;45;00;13 - 00;45;02;28
Sarah
She comes from a very wealthy, fancy background, and.

00;45;02;28 - 00;45;05;09
Mark
Sally Smoot would be able to sniff that out.

00;45;05;10 - 00;45;23;17
Sarah
I mean, of course. Yeah, but once she realizes that Julia has not had a perfect life, she says, Sit down, sit down. And they talk. And they have. And I like that. Julia refers to her as the expert. She said, Well, you're the doctor. And she says, Yes, you're the expert. Yeah. And I think she gets to Sally.

00;45;23;18 - 00;45;27;00
Sarah
Yeah, that way. And they're talking professional to professional.

00;45;27;02 - 00;45;28;01
Mark
Yes.

00;45;28;03 - 00;45;30;12
Sarah
And she finds out about Penny royal oil.

00;45;30;18 - 00;45;32;00
Mark
Yes.

00;45;32;03 - 00;45;32;21
Sarah
Sounds like.

00;45;32;21 - 00;45;34;03
Mark
Which is not good stuff.

00;45;34;03 - 00;45;58;09
Sarah
Bad business. Yeah. Like for my research and, like, a drop from, like, a dropper into a glass of water is enough to make you really sick. Yeah. So if you took a spoonful. Yeah, you may as well just take arsenic or something. Well, it causes you to inject blood from every orifice, so I'm sure a side effect of that would be if you were pregnant, you would lose the baby.

00;45;58;09 - 00;46;07;29
Sarah
But you also bleed from your eyes and your ears and your nose and vomit blood and shoot it out of your nail beds and.

00;46;08;02 - 00;46;10;14
Mark
Yeah, all kinds.

00;46;10;14 - 00;46;12;18
Sarah
Of bad things that should only happen in horror.

00;46;12;18 - 00;46;15;21
Mark
Movies. Meanwhile, the ascot gets worse.

00;46;15;24 - 00;46;16;15
Mark
Yes.

00;46;16;16 - 00;46;20;14
Mark
She fell down the stairs after I her. So goodbye.

00;46;20;14 - 00;46;27;01
Sarah
Well, she threw herself down the stairs. Can you imagine? She did that at my place of work, At my business. How dare her?

00;46;27;03 - 00;46;32;14
Mark
I'm. I'm torn. Because part of me wants him to be really guilty.

00;46;32;18 - 00;46;40;18
Sarah
Well, Ms.. Barnes binge car stomps right out. That's right. He doesn't even seem to care. He's like, Oh, what an inconvenience. Okay.

00;46;40;21 - 00;46;46;29
Mark
So he is, in fact, based on what he says, completely not guilty.

00;46;47;05 - 00;46;49;13
Sarah
He's not guilty of a legal crime.

00;46;49;15 - 00;46;51;10
Mark
Yeah, he is morally.

00;46;51;10 - 00;46;53;27
Sarah
Nor does he feel guilty about anything.

00;46;53;27 - 00;47;01;28
Mark
No, no, no. I wish part of me wishes. Mrs. Billings. Gertz came back and said I saw him push her down the stairs.

00;47;01;29 - 00;47;02;25
Sarah
Miss Ben Carson?

00;47;02;26 - 00;47;03;20
Mark
Yeah.

00;47;03;22 - 00;47;05;16
Sarah
The typist. Yeah.

00;47;05;18 - 00;47;07;06
Mark
Well, she would be called the typewriter.

00;47;07;07 - 00;47;09;22
Sarah
I know. She has a bracelet. Yes, Yes, but.

00;47;09;22 - 00;47;15;29
Mark
But I also like that it shows the hypocrisy that men get away with this crap all the time.

00;47;15;29 - 00;47;30;21
Sarah
Yeah, At this, a woman who was caught trying to get an abortion could be sentenced to death. Yeah. Now, what sense does that make? Yeah, but he can do what he's doing and there's no law against it. Yeah, just.

00;47;30;28 - 00;47;33;17
Mark
I told her I didn't want to get married. I didn't want children.

00;47;33;19 - 00;47;36;05
Sarah
Yeah. So whatever happens is her fault.

00;47;36;07 - 00;47;38;20
Mark
Complete lack of responsibility of men.

00;47;38;22 - 00;47;40;02
Mark
Yeah. No. Oh.

00;47;40;05 - 00;48;03;12
Sarah
If he was a good person, he wouldn't be wearing that ascot. Yeah. Then Murdock gets mad. There's not a lot that makes Murdock angry. Like he. He he gets upset with injustice, and he gets upset with unfairness. But for him to get actually violent, there's only a few things that do it. And one of those things is anybody who is violent against women.

00;48;03;12 - 00;48;04;12
Mark
Yeah, And it's like.

00;48;04;12 - 00;48;12;07
Sarah
That He's not having it. Yeah. So though Bixby hasn't broken a law, that doesn't mean that he's okay in Murdoch's book.

00;48;12;07 - 00;48;18;20
Mark
Yeah. And I also think, like George and Henry might accidentally, like, arrest him for something.

00;48;18;20 - 00;48;22;18
Sarah
Or cut his brake lines of his newfangled horseless carriage.

00;48;22;18 - 00;48;31;02
Mark
Something. So he goes to task and task says, I do perform abortions, which is a big thing for him to say. Yeah.

00;48;31;04 - 00;48;35;16
Sarah
He's and he's only admitting that because he doesn't want Juliet to get in trouble.

00;48;35;18 - 00;48;39;19
Mark
And he says, if Lily had come to me, she'd be alive.

00;48;39;20 - 00;48;40;01
Mark
Yeah.

00;48;40;02 - 00;48;50;28
Mark
And Murdock is stuck because the the gear goings on in Murdoch's head and the smoke coming out of his ears is really the last 10 minutes of this episode.

00;48;50;29 - 00;48;53;24
Sarah
Moral conflict. Moral conflict?

00;48;53;26 - 00;48;57;00
Mark
Yeah He has a few spark moments. Yeah.

00;48;57;02 - 00;48;57;21
Mark
Yeah.

00;48;57;24 - 00;49;05;15
Sarah
He. I think he airs on the side of the greater good. Yeah. And but you don't. It's not clear in the moment for sure.

00;49;05;18 - 00;49;08;26
Mark
Yeah. And I think this is where Murdoch gets really good because.

00;49;08;26 - 00;49;09;17
Sarah
We get to see that.

00;49;09;17 - 00;49;12;13
Mark
Complexity later on even more.

00;49;12;15 - 00;49;26;00
Sarah
But we actually get to see the flashback of Lilly going to see Dr. Fitch. Yeah. When she's bleeding from her eyes, her nose, her fingers everywhere, she looks like something from a horror movie.

00;49;26;00 - 00;49;26;12
Mark
Yeah.

00;49;26;12 - 00;49;29;21
Sarah
So with her bloody hands on the glass of his door.

00;49;29;21 - 00;49;36;12
Mark
Yeah, it's terrifying. I don't know if I would open the door if I was a doctor.

00;49;36;12 - 00;49;52;03
Mark
So during the week and I mentioned this on the broadcast this week, during the week I search for pictures for the episode to use in the social media stuff. And I found a picture of Murdoch when he's sitting beside Billy, basically comforting.

00;49;52;08 - 00;49;55;01
Sarah
When he's imagining himself in Fincher's place.

00;49;55;08 - 00;49;59;27
Mark
He's imagining himself in Fincher's place. I was like, I can't use that picture. It's really good.

00;49;59;27 - 00;50;01;08
Sarah
But he gives it a.

00;50;01;08 - 00;50;02;19
Mark
Rose and it gives too much.

00;50;02;19 - 00;50;19;07
Sarah
Away. So in the end, we we find out that she went to fetch for help because she had taken the pennyroyal and she was dying and she died. There's nothing he could have done to save her. No. And so he thinks now I have to do something on her body.

00;50;19;10 - 00;50;24;16
Mark
It is completely legitimate for him to think I have to protect myself.

00;50;24;18 - 00;50;34;02
Sarah
Yes, because she's dead now. There's nothing I can do for her. But deciding to strip her naked and dump her in a drainage ditch doesn't make a lot of sense.

00;50;34;05 - 00;50;36;19
Mark
But she should have taken her bracelet.

00;50;36;21 - 00;50;38;19
Sarah
Because it would have made it look like a robbery.

00;50;38;19 - 00;50;41;06
Mark
And he could have sold it because he needed money.

00;50;41;06 - 00;50;42;24
Sarah
Yeah, because he's got debt.

00;50;42;26 - 00;50;43;23
Mark
He's got the debts.

00;50;43;29 - 00;51;04;02
Sarah
I think that he would have been he would be worse if he took her bracelet. And they could have never solved the crime like her bracelet. She would have been unidentified. Yes. It is a little bit redeeming that he didn't. Yeah, but still, there are many things he could have done. He could have just said. She came to me and told me she had taken Penny Royal.

00;51;04;05 - 00;51;05;14
Sarah
I couldn't help her.

00;51;05;14 - 00;51;06;15
Mark
Yeah, he could have told the.

00;51;06;15 - 00;51;09;20
Sarah
Truth, you know. But he didn't give it to her. He didn't tell her to take it.

00;51;09;20 - 00;51;14;01
Mark
Yeah, it's that he acts rashly and irrationally.

00;51;14;01 - 00;51;25;06
Sarah
But the act. I'm glad they didn't have a flashback of what he actually did, stripping her down and taking her to Norway and stuff. We don't need that flashback. No. Then we have the bad scene at the park.

00;51;25;11 - 00;51;27;16
Mark
Where's the park? Where's. Where's the town?

00;51;27;16 - 00;51;29;02
Sarah
The parks in there In Toronto.

00;51;29;02 - 00;51;32;22
Mark
No, they're dump fill. Yes, you're right.

00;51;32;24 - 00;51;36;04
Sarah
Well, you know what? Neither of them is a bad person.

00;51;36;04 - 00;51;40;03
Mark
No, but this is the first bump in her relationship. Yep.

00;51;40;05 - 00;51;44;28
Mark
They get back together. It's okay.

00;51;45;00 - 00;51;46;15
Sarah
If you care, they get back.

00;51;46;15 - 00;51;47;11
Mark
Together.

00;51;47;13 - 00;51;50;20
Mark
And she explains that Isaac didn't give her an abortion.

00;51;50;26 - 00;51;51;17
Sarah
No, but he.

00;51;51;20 - 00;52;03;11
Mark
Saved her life. Like, that is such a good like everything is building to you. Thinking he performed an abortion at the very last minute. It's like, No, you didn't do that.

00;52;03;11 - 00;52;20;19
Sarah
And it's his justification for doing them now. Yeah, because he saw what happened to somebody he cared about who had a back, who had bad treatment and how close she was to dying and and swore. I'm not going to let that happen. Yeah. If it's in my power to do something about it, I'm going to. And now he does.

00;52;20;19 - 00;52;32;27
Sarah
And Murdoch says he's not to press charges against him, which I think is Murdoch. His mind, his world growing. Yes, because he sees more complexity there than just black and white, which is why the episode is called.

00;52;33;04 - 00;52;33;21
Mark
Shades of.

00;52;33;21 - 00;52;35;13
Sarah
Gray. Exactly.

00;52;35;15 - 00;52;36;16
Mark
But there's no.

00;52;36;20 - 00;52;38;08
Sarah
They have some shades.

00;52;38;11 - 00;52;39;14
Mark
Of gray.

00;52;39;17 - 00;52;40;25
Mark
Like 50 shades of gray.

00;52;40;25 - 00;52;54;09
Sarah
No, no, no. That's completely different. Yeah, but they have come to an impasse. Yeah, right. She can't undo her history and he can't undo his ethics and his beliefs. Yeah. So there's no way around it.

00;52;54;12 - 00;53;10;08
Mark
And this is a line that goes right to the present day. The of the episode, like their relation ship, their relationship revolves around A her job and b their ability and children.

00;53;10;09 - 00;53;13;13
Sarah
Yeah yeah. This is just the start of a long story.

00;53;13;14 - 00;53;17;05
Mark
But right now dumbed down has a population of Murdoch.

00;53;17;06 - 00;53;19;23
Sarah
Yes well I think Julie is really upset too.

00;53;19;24 - 00;53;20;14
Mark
Oh, I think so.

00;53;20;14 - 00;53;25;14
Sarah
She hasn't dumped him. They, they both know she's just the one who gets up.

00;53;25;14 - 00;53;35;25
Mark
I think I think Murdoch is. Is that accidentally misogynistic nice guy in this scene where he thinks it's going to be okay now?

00;53;35;29 - 00;53;36;14
Sarah
Yeah.

00;53;36;14 - 00;53;42;27
Mark
And he hasn't realized how much he's hurt her or how much his opinion of her actually will change.

00;53;43;00 - 00;53;48;11
Sarah
He just assumes that if he thinks he can just forget it, then it'll be fine. Yeah. And she knows better.

00;53;48;11 - 00;53;53;01
Mark
And that that's kind of accidental misogyny. Yeah. It's not toxic, right?

00;53;53;02 - 00;53;56;15
Sarah
No, no, no, no, no. But. But she doesn't want to be the exception.

00;53;56;18 - 00;53;57;05
Mark
Yeah.

00;53;57;07 - 00;54;03;03
Sarah
He's willing to make her the exception, but she knows that's not tenable long term. It's not going to work. No. So.

00;54;03;06 - 00;54;05;09
Mark
And great acting by both of them.

00;54;05;09 - 00;54;10;22
Sarah
So dumping will happen is fantastic. Meanwhile, Crabtree is in the background, hunched, hunched.

00;54;10;24 - 00;54;12;07
Mark
Much I got.

00;54;12;09 - 00;54;14;20
Mark
Here. He's like, I saw them kissing.

00;54;14;24 - 00;54;15;23
Sarah
They're not kissing anymore.

00;54;15;23 - 00;54;16;21
Mark
They're not kissing.

00;54;16;21 - 00;54;17;13
Sarah
Anymore.

00;54;17;13 - 00;54;20;07
Mark
It's drama.

00;54;20;09 - 00;54;23;10
Sarah
Or he can't do best corpse because there's only one. And she's awesome.

00;54;23;10 - 00;54;24;16
Mark
She's awesome.

00;54;24;19 - 00;54;32;22
Sarah
As we have already said, after the credits, Tash gets to go on with his practice, but she's going to go to jail for interfering with a corpse.

00;54;32;22 - 00;54;36;16
Mark
Yep, Bixby is going to keep going on and doing what he does.

00;54;36;16 - 00;54;44;16
Sarah
Well, hopefully Miss Ben Carson, like, walks outside with a big sign that says, Don't work here. I see. And tells all of her friends a secretary.

00;54;44;17 - 00;54;49;17
Mark
Several episodes in the future where this type of character gets his comeuppance.

00;54;49;18 - 00;54;54;10
Sarah
Yes, maybe Bixby will accidentally choke himself with his ascot.

00;54;54;10 - 00;54;54;23
Mark
Maybe.

00;54;55;00 - 00;54;58;06
Sarah
I have a horrible movie for you.

00;54;58;11 - 00;55;00;20
Mark
It's been too long since we've had a.

00;55;00;20 - 00;55;02;22
Sarah
Horrible a horrible news.

00;55;02;23 - 00;55;04;25
Mark
I'm ready for a horrible movie.

00;55;04;25 - 00;55;08;05
Mark
This movie is so bad. This is so.

00;55;08;05 - 00;55;11;25
Sarah
Bad. This one's for 1982.

00;55;11;28 - 00;55;12;23
Mark
This is in my.

00;55;12;23 - 00;55;27;16
Sarah
Wheelhouse and Clark is in it who plays Dr. Fitch in this episode? Here is a synopsis. Okay, a Disgruntled phone company employee develops a device whereby those answering a phone can be murdered and it's up to one man to stop the killer.

00;55;27;19 - 00;55;29;14
Mark
This is everything about me.

00;55;29;14 - 00;55;30;20
Mark
I know.

00;55;30;22 - 00;55;38;11
Sarah
Tagline Your phone can pierce. Your brain explodes your heart and jolt you ten feet in the air. The panic has just begun.

00;55;38;13 - 00;55;40;08
Mark
Or there's not enough power.

00;55;40;08 - 00;55;41;06
Mark
About phone to do.

00;55;41;06 - 00;55;44;27
Sarah
That. A madman pushes a button and kills by phone. Will you answer.

00;55;44;27 - 00;55;46;01
Mark
The touchtone button?

00;55;46;07 - 00;55;47;05
Sarah
Touchtone phone.

00;55;47;08 - 00;55;48;04
Mark
Now I'm inches.

00;55;48;05 - 00;55;52;09
Sarah
I don't know. You'll have to watch the movie folder. You haven't seen this movie.

00;55;52;09 - 00;56;01;00
Mark
It's not Dial. And for murder. No, because that's a good movie. But I wouldn't be surprised if it plays on that notion.

00;56;01;02 - 00;56;02;16
Sarah
Would you like to know who stars in it?

00;56;02;16 - 00;56;03;03
Mark
Yes.

00;56;03;10 - 00;56;04;18
Sarah
Richard Chamberlain.

00;56;04;23 - 00;56;06;05
Mark
Oh, my God.

00;56;06;05 - 00;56;09;13
Mark
Richard Chamberlain.

00;56;09;15 - 00;56;12;07
Sarah
I just may be your new favorite movie.

00;56;12;07 - 00;56;26;23
Mark
I had such a boy crush on Richard Chamberlain when I was a boy. Oh, my gosh. The Three Musketeers movies with Raquel Welch and Shogun. I remember it well. Okay.

00;56;26;25 - 00;56;27;27
Sarah
You haven't seen it.

00;56;27;27 - 00;56;29;11
Mark
I've not seen this movie.

00;56;29;11 - 00;56;31;14
Sarah
It is called Murder by Phone.

00;56;31;14 - 00;56;35;14
Mark
Murder? Yes. What's it about?

00;56;35;14 - 00;56;45;29
Sarah
In some places where it was released, it was called Bell's Bell, I guess because of the ringing of the phone. Murder by murder or by phone, 1982.

00;56;46;02 - 00;56;47;26
Mark
Oh, I need to see that.

00;56;47;28 - 00;56;55;00
Sarah
This is a point for me. And you can guess what Mark's going to do this afternoon. He's going to be watching Murder by phone.

00;56;55;02 - 00;56;58;00
Mark
You just have it. Amazing trailer.

00;56;58;04 - 00;57;04;21
Sarah
You can watch murder by phone if you can find it somewhere online and let us know what you think about it. Yeah. All right.

00;57;04;22 - 00;57;05;28
Mark
Murder by phone.

00;57;05;29 - 00;57;09;10
Sarah
Wow. What is season two? Episode seven?

00;57;09;12 - 00;57;28;20
Mark
Oh, boy. Do we have a treat. Okay, so first of all, next Saturday, when we report on Saturdays, next Saturday is the 25th market. Let me tell you, everything happened this day. Yes. It's a very raw record. We will record a big murder on campus.

00;57;28;20 - 00;57;30;22
Mark
Oh, yeah.

00;57;30;24 - 00;57;34;10
Mark
Probably the best episode from season two.

00;57;34;10 - 00;57;35;17
Sarah
Okay.

00;57;35;19 - 00;57;42;05
Mark
Most definitely. The introduction of a fantastic character.

00;57;42;05 - 00;57;43;02
Sarah
Yes.

00;57;43;04 - 00;57;48;12
Mark
It is. All right. Back to goofy, fun murdering murder.

00;57;48;18 - 00;57;51;13
Sarah
Yep. This one's kind of heavy. The next one is not.

00;57;51;13 - 00;58;16;27
Mark
It's not. It takes place at U of T all sorts of u t stuff on it. And. Oh, oh, it's just so good. Okay, then we we have four more episodes that will take us to five. Sorry, we have six more episodes which will take us into October unless again now we've got to, we got to talk about this.

00;58;17;01 - 00;58;30;09
Mark
We, it is probably imminent that we're going to hear about a new midsummer's, I would think, in the next 45 days or less. We will hear about New Midsummer. So once we hear about Midsummer's.

00;58;30;11 - 00;58;32;29
Sarah
If we need to make adjustments to the schedule, to set the.

00;58;33;01 - 00;58;38;01
Mark
Schedule, and then after season two of Murdoch, we will do. Father Brown, Season one.

00;58;38;02 - 00;58;38;22
Sarah
The new father.

00;58;38;26 - 00;58;43;28
Mark
I don't know what episodes we're going to do because we've covered a couple of them already. Yeah, So we need.

00;58;43;28 - 00;58;44;25
Sarah
To do the ones that we haven't.

00;58;44;25 - 00;58;46;22
Mark
Figure out how we're going to do that.

00;58;46;22 - 00;58;52;01
Sarah
If there isn't New Mid-summer to cover, if there is when there is record scratch, everything stops.

00;58;52;02 - 00;58;57;02
Mark
Every midsummer in summertime.

00;58;57;05 - 00;58;58;27
Sarah
All right. Until then.

00;58;59;01 - 00;59;00;16
Mark
By Maniac.

00;59;00;16 - 00;59;16;19
Sarah
By Maniacs is.

00;59;16;21 - 00;59;21;14
Mark
Ready. Yep, yep. Ready? Yeah. Five, four, three, two.