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The Conscious Collaboration Podcast brings together entrepreneurs, changemakers, and thought leaders. We aim to highlight the people who embody the idea of aligned mind, body, and business. Each week, we share, discuss, and learn from the various experiences and ideas of our guest experts. Through our discovery, we find a path to aligned mind, body, and business.
Conscious Collaboration brings together entrepreneurs, change makers, and thought leaders. We aim to highlight the people that embody the idea of aligned mind, body, and business. Each week, we share, discuss, and learn from the various experiences and ideas of our guest experts. Through our discovery, we find a path to an aligned mind, body, and business.
Emily:What up y'all? I'm Emily.
Lisa:And I'm Lisa, and we are the conscious collaboration. And today with us, joining us in this collaboration is Angelica Morris, one of my dear friends, besties, and collaborators. And Angelica joins us with the background well, with a really interesting background as it pertains to being an intuitive, guided to help serve people in finding their soulmates through dating, coaching, aligned matchmaking, events, and so much more. And what's really cool about you, Angelica, and I'm gonna I'm gonna give it to you so you can, you know, tie any loose ends here, is that you have such a vast background in terms of being very experienced in travel, and also you studied anthropology. Right?
Angelika Morris:Yes.
Lisa:So you you know everything about true human nature, cultural, differences, and ways that men and women engage. And I think that adds so much to what you bring in terms of
Emily:I think that where she studied is definitely worth a shout out about that. Okay. It always sounds pretentious if I say it, but I went to Princeton,
Lisa:and studied,
Angelika Morris:say it, but I went to Princeton, and studied, anthropology. Yeah. That's so
Lisa:wonderful. I don't think I've ever met anyone with such a background, and I can really see it and sense it come through in your work and the ways that you engage with, not only my friends and my clients, but when I see you in any appearances with TV and guiding people, in the digital world as well with their questions, you're able to even help people, translate in a very intuitive way when it comes to, cross cultural differences.
Angelika Morris:Thank you so much.
Lisa:Yeah. And thank you for your work. So, Angelica, we are gonna do a quick, guided I Ching, divination to see how we can show up and serve our listeners today. As you know, our listeners are a lot of thought leaders, entrepreneur, minded people who have a lot of struggles in dating. So we're really enjoying this deep dive that we've been doing the past couple weeks in learning the differences in how visionaries, thought leaders, and entrepreneurs, interact within the world and in particular, the dating space.
Lisa:So today's conversation, let's ask the ancient I Ching, how can we show up and serve our listener base best with your expertise and experience? K? Does that sound good to you both? Alright. Mhmm.
Lisa:So I'm looking for the current energy to be what is the state of our listeners right now as it pertains to love, finding their soulmate match. And, Angelica, we had, an opportunity together last week to, film a TV show, Alive the tape. Right? That was cool.
Angelika Morris:Really fun.
Lisa:Yeah. I felt like it was too short, so I'm glad we get to do this today so we can continue talking. But I thought that was just really neat to talk a little bit about the digital space and the differences there with the in person, just the challenges we're all facing as, singles.
Angelika Morris:Woah.
Lisa:Okay. So, catapulted right on out there. That's too many. That's too many, but it tells me a little bit about the energy. That was too much.
Lisa:Looking. The energy is too much. Too much energy? Well, isn't it too much? Isn't it Mercury in retrograde?
Lisa:Okay. The energy, of our listeners, I really like this. We've gotten this before. It's the energy of pushing upward. So it's like that sprout that's forming beneath the earth and just really trying to peek up through that foundation.
Lisa:And so that's where our listeners are today, and we would like to show up and serve them with your expertise and our conversation. To talk about centering into truth is a future energy, and that's really interesting because we were talking a lot about that. I think you even used the word centering in truth a lot in our interview, for the TV show. That's hexagram number 61. So let me just give you girls a little bit of background, and I know you're both intuitively guided as well, so feel free to jump in.
Lisa:I love the image of pushing upwards. I think entrepreneurs, we feel that push a lot. Like, we're trying to break through the earth a lot of times, and sometimes it's a little bit easier, and sometimes it's a little bit harder. And sometimes we have to push through like a rock in a crevice that doesn't see the light of day. So, I think our listeners out there are feeling that, like, wanting to break through.
Lisa:There might be some resistance in their lives right now. So it's talking about natural advancement represented by growth in springtime when new plant life pushes upward through the earth. Now the emphasis is really on the upward motion. It's a movement from obscurity to influence with growth that is supported by adaptability and an absence of obstacles. Constant flexible growth is the key attribute of a plant pushing upward, and this reading suggests a period of promotion and prosperity for those that are receiving this energy.
Lisa:So our listeners are really at a great pivotal moment as it pertains to love, being seen, being visible, and finding that light, where there perhaps might have been a great resistance. The lines indicate that there's a lot of divine influence, so a lot of that energy that connects us all. Those who push blindly toward greater fame, fortune, and power are deluding themselves. As a result of recent success, you may imagine that you will always continue to advance and never to retreat, but such unabashed ambition would lead to exhaustion and often embarrassment. The shortest distance between where you are now and where you want to be is probably a little curvy winding path, So learn to enjoy the scenery.
Lisa:Does that bring about anything in your experiences, ladies, Angelica, within the dating culture as you see it?
Angelika Morris:Yeah. When you said, like, a rewinding path, enjoy the experience, that's essentially what the whole matchmaking process is that I help curate intentional experiences for people. And, you know, if I could, on the 1st date, 1st match, that was the person you're gonna spend your life with, like fortune telling, I would charge 1,000,000,000, and no no one would hear from me ever again.
Emily:So it's it's
Angelika Morris:not like when people hear intuitive, sometimes they think it means fortune teller. Mhmm. And not always. So I have to cultivate an experience with that, like, trial and error, ups and downs, surprises. But, hopefully, through our time together, it's more fun, and they would do it by themselves because of that structure.
Angelika Morris:But they still have to go through that experience. It's not a fast track.
Lisa:Yeah. I like that. And one thing that jumped out to me was that just because we're in the limelight sometimes of our position or, you know, notoriety or being known for something in what we do as a lot of visionaries and experts are seen, that doesn't mean that you're guaranteed success. And so I feel like that came through in that line. Did you guys hear that too?
Lisa:So it's kind of like that, like, connection to our fame and reputation, to success. It doesn't always translate over. Mhmm. Because I know that your clientele is often, you know, more of the luxury base. You know, I know you serve the great many of people, but a lot of your clientele are luxury based and, you know, celebrity level or high level, people in society, it's it must feel like a hurt a blow to the ego when you're always a sought after person, the expert, the person that's put on stage, and everybody's so nice to you.
Lisa:And then, like, for some reason, there's this, like, why can't I find, like, that, intimate connection with someone one on one?
Angelika Morris:Yeah. And I always, like, say success has different flavors, and sometimes people like, everyone no one is good at every single thing. So sometimes their flavor of success is being really great at writing or TV or science, but their emotional intelligence, their ability to connect with people romantically needs more support, and that's okay. But it's actually really lonely to be at this high level, and people perceive you on this pedestal.
Lisa:Yeah.
Angelika Morris:That's their private lives. Some people not all people, are really, like, trying to figure out why this connection has this romantic connection has evaded them.
Lisa:Yeah. I didn't think about that until I read through, the hexagram line actually that that must just feel it must feel so kind of lonely and isolating when people just assume, oh, you you appear like someone that dating would be so easy for for you. But I was also kind of thinking, like, about Emily and I talk a lot about the horoscopes and astrological signs and the attributes of people, in in different signs, and she and I are both air signs. And so we're, like, we always laugh that we're not, like, the ones to be, like, hugging and crying, like like emotion emotion sharing.
Emily:Outward outward displays.
Lisa:Outward displays. We have them. We have emotions. Right? But, somebody else, trying to connect
Angelika Morris:them them
Emily:into our pancreas
Angelika Morris:for them.
Lisa:That's right. That's right. There's a pocket in our pancreas where we hide our emotions. But, you know, when someone does that and they're not very, like, outwardly displaying of their emotions, it can come across cold and aloof or, you know, hard to read.
Emily:Flighty. Mhmm.
Lisa:Yeah. Flighty. Do you see that in, any do you see any patterns in that?
Angelika Morris:Some people, you know, they're such an expert in one thing that it's like that's where all their brain and emotional energy goes. So it is, like, really, for some, like, hard to connect anything outside of their expertise, and emotional intelligence relating, even small talk is a different skill set, those soft skills. So I can definitely see how that can happen.
Lisa:Yeah. Those were just my initial thoughts and, like, how we can show up and serve in in in our conversation. It talks a lot about too because this is a lot of higher level, energy at play. So if we're looking at from the divine down to the our inner selves, here on Earth, it's talking a lot about, when a level of success is achieved, but further goals lie ahead, keep your wits about you. It's essential to proceed on your path one step at a time, And there is great temptation to thoughtlessly skip ahead to the big reward at the end of a long journey.
Lisa:When a minor first reward has been obtained, it just feels so good. But keep your attention riveted on the processes still at work. The rewards will take care of themselves, supporting even more progress on a steady path of increasing good fortune. So when I saw
Emily:that was the I Ching description of a dopamine hit.
Lisa:Yes. Thank you. Yeah. So do you see that in your experience too? Like, you know, like, just that, you know, Emily is saying that dopamine hit, like, the love bombing or, like, just pure attachment right out of the gate?
Angelika Morris:Not so much love bombing and pure attachment, like, within the matchmaking realm, but I think that happens a lot in the dating app realm more so.
Lisa:Yeah.
Angelika Morris:Because, like, there's more checks and balances in the matchmaking world. But I know a lot of people, you know, will describe that. I mean, everyone has been loved on
Lisa:if you've been on a dating app. Yeah.
Angelika Morris:Pretty much, unfortunately, almost like a universal experience. It feels like you met someone, and then you get carried away. 2 weeks later, it's over. And that's that dopamine hit, and Match Group, the conglomerate that owns all the dating apps, has actually been sued for gamifying love, essentially, and creating algorithmic practices that make people's brains, like, addicted to swiping.
Emily:And It is. I always say it's like a video game.
Angelika Morris:It really is. It's using the same exact technology and logics as it, as casinos and jack Yeah. So I don't know the outcome with that lawsuit. Like, how like, I guess it's a class action lawsuit, who wins, who loses, and what can be done about it. But for sure, like, our whole entire dating culture is running off of the dopamine hit of first, like, first, like, first date and not much continuity after that.
Emily:Seems like a hard thing to concretely, like, sue somebody for. You know what I mean?
Angelika Morris:It's like, how do you describe Yeah. The love or addiction to the idea of love? Yeah.
Lisa:I know, like, you and I haven't been on all of the dating apps, but I feel like there were some of them that tried to, like, slow the pacing down. I don't know if it was, like was that Bumble where you have to, like, wait before you reply? I don't know if it was Bumble that did that, but I've only been on 3 of them.
Emily:The ladies first.
Lisa:Yeah. But, like, where they try to curb your enthusiasm to, like, wait for a reply. I
Emily:think they rush you on Bumble. I think they make you go it's been a while, but I think you have to respond within 24 hours or something.
Angelika Morris:Hinge, their slogan is designed to be deleted, but it's still owned by Yes. So, also, all the dating app options, they're just illusion of choice. It's the same company anyways.
Emily:Is it all the same company? Yeah.
Lisa:They do not. Gosh.
Angelika Morris:It's just different flavors of the same thing, but it's essentially, you know, the idea of even if they give you, 5 free swipes a day, you get addicted to those 5 free swipes, and you wanna buy more. And it's like a lottery. Like, I just gotta win. Yeah.
Lisa:Yeah. It's like the lottery no one ever wanted to play. Okay. So in your matchmaking, do you coach your matches to, like, behind the scenes? Like, hey.
Lisa:Good job. Like, let's simmer down or, like, here's some suggestions on how to move forward or invite so and so on another date. Or do you do any reflection reflection or and guidance on that side of things? Yeah. There's a lot of reflection feedback because
Angelika Morris:that's how I know what's working, what's not, what strategies, or recruitment strategies to implement, things to avoid. And a lot of people, they come in, they think they need more options or the best options. Like, oh, here are the top shelf men. You know?
Emily:And it's, like, there are
Angelika Morris:high quality people on dating apps because everyone is online. There are high quality people even if they're not on the dating app, LinkedIn, Instagram based. Like, everyone has some sort of digital flip phone. It's just being open and accessible on the time constraints. But, yeah, I essentially help people intentionally make decisions, pace themselves, and really see things out before making a snap judgment and also trying new things that they perhaps never tried before.
Lisa:Does everybody come to you with, like, a type or they feel like they're, like, locked into a type? Because, Emily, we talk about this a lot.
Angelika Morris:It depends. It's, like, half and half. Some people are completely open, any race, religion, politics, personality, And that's always helpful because it's like, oh, it'll be easier to recruit in some ways, but it's you don't really know the target, so you just have to do more experimentation. But then some people have extremely narrow types where it's, like, sometimes it doesn't make sense, and I know we probably aren't gonna be successful. And then I won't, like, work with them because I just know it's so narrow and contradictory.
Angelika Morris:It may be, like, searching for a uniform. The unicorn doesn't actually exist. So yeah.
Lisa:Oh, man. I thought unicorns existed.
Emily:Do you, do you encourage people to kind of seek out or, you know, maybe journal ahead of time or or something like that, do any exercises beforehand, do you ask for certain values or criteria, like, that you want to hear from from from your clients?
Angelika Morris:I asked them about their core values. So we have a 2 hour, like, consultation, and we go into their life story history, family dynamics, and it's just a natural conversation. So if someone, you know, mentioned something from their childhood that could affect how they view relationships, I'll follow-up on that point and then just see where it leads. And sometimes I extract values. Even if they don't say that's a value, I could tell it's value for them.
Angelika Morris:So, I also help people figure out their values because a lot of everyone says, oh, honesty, trust, loyalty, but then For sure. That's so general, and everyone wants that. No one says, I'm looking for
Lisa:a A liar. So I
Angelika Morris:go, like, deep around, like, okay. How do you, like, understand how money works for? You know? Thoughts on child rearing, thoughts on gender roles, and then figure out the values from that.
Lisa:So do you feel like values come mainly from our makeup as, like, in our childhood? Do you feel a lot of that? Because and I I know we're gonna talk a little bit more about this next week with our next guest on on values and future planning, but I did an exercise and, and Vinny is his name. He asked me to identify my 5 core values, and I couldn't really put them into words. Like, I can't I know.
Lisa:I can feel it when it's being, tested. I know, okay. No. That's against my values, but I actually have never just, like, written them down. So there was, like, this questionnaire that I took that helped me to, like, narrow down my values, but you have, like, a gift of doing this with your clients.
Angelika Morris:Yeah. I think they all come from childhood. People either, adopt the values of the family or they actively work against them or make a choice not to do that. But family and also meaning, like, your society you were raised in. And a lot of people, even if they didn't have the most, healthy background, Their current value is still based on that childhood because they decided to do therapy to reverse those values and create new ones.
Angelika Morris:So I think it all still comes from the root. Even if it's not the same values of your family, you still use that as a perspective point to then pivot.
Lisa:Yeah. Sorry, Emily. I didn't mean to in interrupt you from your thought because you look like you were.
Emily:It's okay.
Emily:I actually remembered it. Yeah. Remarkably. What I was gonna ask is, are there any, unique challenges that you see among entrepreneurs? And if so, is that true for both men and women, or do you see any unique challenges, say, for example, just among female entrepreneurs?
Angelika Morris:That's a good question. Okay. Unique challenges. Well, first, like, from a demographic, for a woman who's a female entrepreneur and her earning potential is uncapped, it is just statistically harder to find a man that, for those who do want, like, the hypergamous relationship, who earns equal or more than that if she's very high level versus, like, for a man, if the girl works at McDonald's, but she's, like, super beautiful. Everything he's looking for energy wise, they can be compatible.
Angelika Morris:But for most female entrepreneurs, they want someone equal financial footing or greater. So that's a unique challenge for women. For men, I would say their greatest challenge is someone to actually like them for them and not see them as, like, a sugar daddy. Mhmm. And a lot of, like, guys feel like, I don't want someone just to marry me to take a permanent vacation even if they have no problem being the financial breadwinner just because, statistically, very few women will make just as much as them.
Angelika Morris:It's like they just don't wanna feel like, you know, they're the ATM. So finding someone that really is the hardest part.
Emily:Do do you find that men have a hard time being able to discern that?
Angelika Morris:Not really. I think they settle. Like, if they know, okay. Mhmm. She's gonna run me for my money.
Angelika Morris:If you're not finding anything better, they'll just go for it, but, like, they know something's missing. Like, I don't really feel even, like, girls are tricking men into anything. They, like, consent to that type of relationship, and they'll settle for it even if they're craving something deeper and just, like, get what they need in the moment and both parties are satisfied. But I don't think it's like unless there's something I really don't think, you know, men are being pulled over their head in, like, transactional relationships because they are businessmen. You know?
Angelika Morris:Like, they're good at winning. And Mhmm. Those type of relationships, I do believe the man will make sure he wins in some way.
Emily:And I'm sure, you know, you can point out different ways that women settle in, you know, the same Yeah.
Angelika Morris:That's what I'm saying. Kind of way. Mhmm. Exactly. Yeah.
Lisa:Yeah. That's a good question. I didn't think about that. It it's sad to think that about the term settling, in this day and age, especially with all the information that we have. And but I understand the idea of compromise and, you know, expectations and, and all of that.
Lisa:But so what I'm hearing is is that there there is a big group of male entrepreneurs that feel perhaps, underappreciated, especially in the financial realm of things, and they desire a partner that's more contributive and maybe has a little bit more of their, like, gumption and story or, like, dreams to add to it. But then on the female side, it's really that desire to, to have someone to match her energy, in terms of, like, her that pushing upward energy. You know, I and, our friend, Niaje, I know she just put out an episode too about power couples. So that that concept, came to mind too. Is that, like, the ideal, for most people to find that dynamic in the entrepreneurial people?
Angelika Morris:Yeah. For sure. Well, I would say men and women define power couples differently, and I use the word of marketing. Like I say, we unite power couples worldwide because it resonates with that visionary and leader archetype, but men typically imagine power couple successful entrepreneurial men imagine power couple as, like, someone who respects my leadership, who really, really nurtures me, who will raise the kids, who will take care of the home. And then a female entrepreneur typically doesn't like, when she thinks a power couple, she's not imagining that traditional housewife y role.
Angelika Morris:She's imagining, like, someone that will help scale the business, that they can work together, create a lot of financial success. So the guy isn't looking at the power couple dynamic as, oh, this will make more money. It's more of this will be pleasure centered and more soothing. Mhmm. So it's a little bit hard to navigate, like, those 2 very different definitions of what is a power couple.
Lisa:Yeah. I don't know what my own definition is. I I feel like there's I said a little bit earlier, it's kind of like learning more from the other person. So, like, they're they're better at some things and we're better at other things, but that continually learning and then, like, advancing together towards some shared goal, whatever that may be. It could be anything.
Lisa:It could be real estate. It could be, knowledge based or or whatever.
Emily:I don't
Lisa:know. What do you think what do you think, Emily? Like, what's a power couple definition?
Emily:To me, I just imagine, like, a really synergistic relationship where, yeah, whatever the goal is, whether it's raising a family, building a business, both, all of the above, that you have the ability to, you know, vacillate between roles. And, you know, maybe sometimes yeah. Because that you know, because I'm here for it and because, you know, I'm good at x y z. Maybe that puts me in the in the a more nurturing housewife y role at times, where at other times, you know, I'm applying that energy to to the business and and vice versa. I mean, you could you know, people inevitably go through life changes and problems.
Emily:And so when 2 people can work together synergistically, sometimes one is picking up where the other is is lacking, and then, you know, it switches off. And I think that 2 people can just kind of, who are a good match, I guess, can kind of intuitively, figure that out amongst each other.
Angelika Morris:Yeah. Yeah.
Emily:So Harmony.
Angelika Morris:I think synergy and harmony are great words to use for sure and, like, the social trend of, like if we look at, let's say, top 10% income earners, men are statistically gonna be more politically conservative and value those traditional gender roles, whereas women are more likely to be more liberal and have more modern ideals. So that's also where that disconnect is. Like, what does it mean to be masculine and feminine and work together? Because there is even the most liberal of men tend to have romantically a little bit more conservative views on relationships. That's been interesting.
Lisa:Yeah. That's an interesting dynamic, I think, too is is as we talk about power couples and having that synergy and harmony is being able to receive feedback and being held accountable for things that you need to be stronger in without that turning into a negative loop. So keeping it, like, I I know our listeners can't see us right now, but they'll be able to see on the on the video is Emily was doing kind of like a figure 8 kind of, motion, which is what I imagine the dynamic to be a lot of. You know, very inter twining and fluid and not, like, you know, combative.
Emily:I do this every time. You do this every time.
Lisa:Yeah. Mhmm. Transactional is the word I'm thinking of. Mhmm.
Angelika Morris:That's, like, kinda wanna help. Like, both sides have to, like, be more flexible to make a relationship work. And yeah. So that's essentially what I help people with. Like, okay.
Angelika Morris:How can we get your dream lifestyle actually manifested, and it's not gonna be in the, like, the chat box you prescribed. Because what if this happens or that happens or that happens? So both people have to, like, come together in the middle.
Lisa:Yeah. That's, so that's reinforced in the I Ching that we read. It was, by remaining tolerant and flexible, you will retain the conscious innocence that best fuels growth and advancement. I like the conscious innocence of it, like, being able to see through all of the noise of it and maybe, like, feeling a little bit of ego blow of, you know, maybe I should make some changes. Like, maybe some of my patterns are resulting in some of the negatives, that are manifesting when it pertains to finding that soulmate match.
Lisa:But I think our listeners from this reading are in the upward, pushing upward momentum in terms of our listeners are very aware of their energetics, the mindset work, the keeping their bodies healthy.
Emily:Growth growth minded.
Lisa:Growth mindset. Yeah. Is that does that line up well with your client base too?
Angelika Morris:Yeah. For sure. Because I interview people before taking them on, and I always look for growth mindedness because it's literally impossible to match someone that is so static because they'll always find something wrong. And then it's just a waste of everyone's time, energy, and money.
Lisa:Yeah. I like that you're very discerning about, you know, who you take on, and I'm sure you lovingly send them or guide them elsewhere to other resources.
Angelika Morris:Right.
Lisa:Yeah. That's I think that's really neat. So before we move on to, like, really talking about this forward energy that the I Ching is pointing to, which is centering in truth, it leaves us with the idea of, just as a tree draws its power from its roots, even humble beginnings can serve as a foundation for great achievement given the right attitude. We were kinda just talking about that. Even though new movement may be sometimes induced sadness, there is no regret.
Lisa:Let go of the comforts of the past in favor of the adventurous vitality of creating the future. So as it pertains to relationships, does that, make any sense? So that would be, you know, really inner self really being rooted. Yeah. I like that.
Angelika Morris:Yeah. I feel like everyone is a projection of our own self consciousness that we tune our attention to. And not that some people don't actually you know, some people are not great matches. Like, there's abuse, narcissism, all those things. But even in those hard scenarios, it's not the other person's fault, but it's, like, a reflection of a narcissist can only be with someone that is a doormat.
Angelika Morris:You know? It still reflects on a part of your inner and, you know, different things like that. Another another person and how they trigger us or not trigger us or catch our attention in some way, whether it's positive or negative, is showing us something about ourselves. And if it's like we're not seeing it come up in our reality, it means we're not resonating with it.
Lisa:Yeah. That's interesting. We haven't talked about, narcissism as it appears in the dating world, but, I mean, we that is everywhere in pop culture and social media and friend stories about, narcissist experience or, you know, everybody has, a little bit of narcissism, but but a true, someone with narcissistic personality disorder, you know, the does that come off does that come across in dating with your clients as well? Do you hear those stories? Is that, like, part of the challenge that they face?
Angelika Morris:Maybe in the past, but not, like, through their dating experience going forward because, well, first of all, like, anyone who's a narcissist doesn't like to be held accountable, or anyone who's doing anything that's, like, they know it's shady doesn't wanna be held accountable. So they like to be online, anonymous, and just, like, hide in the underbelly. Yeah. Yeah. So they're not even gonna come forth.
Angelika Morris:Yeah. And if they do, like, someone's, like, lying to me about something, I can verify it and just be like, well, you're not gonna be included in the database or call them out on it. Yeah. And then 2, the narcissist thing, I feel like it's definitely, of course, real, but, like, a narcissist will lose interest of someone that's very confident. A narcissist will lose interest of someone that has boundaries and someone that's self assured.
Angelika Morris:Like, they won't even approach that person. They know who their victims can be. Yeah. And they also like, narcissists are people too. Like, people demonize them.
Angelika Morris:I'm not saying what they do is, okay or an excuse, but they're also hurting people that are trying to get an emotional need met through hurting someone else, which they should not be doing. But they know who to get that emotional need met through unconfident people, people that don't have boundaries, people that are, you know, just seeking acceptance no matter where it comes from. Both parties are trying to get that acceptance. Oh, wow. Not a match for a narcissist energetically, like, you won't ever see them.
Lisa:It won't come into your dating experience. Yeah. So you're you're what you're seeing is a lot of your clients have already been through that in their past experience, and they've formed and they are very grounded into their foundations and and knowing what the boundaries and values are. So that's interesting. Yeah.
Lisa:But it's it comes up couple times a day where I see it somewhere, you know, within a Facebook group or a friend brings it up or within social media. So I like to hear that in your experience, you're noticing that if you go through that and you do the work and the emotional work that, you're not it doesn't come into your energy field.
Angelika Morris:Right. It really doesn't.
Lisa:Awesome. So, as we talk about moving forward into Centering in Truth, so that was the future energy. Centering in truth is really just that, you see, like, that seabird diving diving into that, like, ocean there. So as we were talking, you and I, last week in the last interview, it's really that, authenticity, that inner self, centering in your truth. Do you feel that really resonates with your guidance for people as they're entering into the dating world or really taking it seriously or making that big turn?
Angelika Morris:Yeah. For sure. I like the person you're gonna spend most of your life with. You're not going to be on dates. You're gonna be doing everyday life stuff, So it's important to show up as your most most authentic self and just be you and not, like, a role play or a cosplay of what you think this types of this type of person desires because then it's spending your whole entire life faking.
Angelika Morris:And so many people fake everything about their lives because they think that will get them this particular type of person. And it will, but then it's like, what's the point if you always have a mask on?
Lisa:How can you maintain that?
Angelika Morris:Right.
Lisa:I think that was part of, you know, the generations before mine. You know, I I remember my mom talking about being in classes in high school that were more about, like, grooming and, you know, for for women to to be a certain way in relation. It was like home ec, but it was very much, like, image based. And, in my growing up, my mom wore her makeup. Even to sleep, I never saw her without makeup on.
Lisa:You know, so, like, you know, that's relatively easy to keep up. But if you're having to change your persona and wear that mask and persona for so long, I imagine, like, that must be so draining.
Angelika Morris:Right. And, like, I know that anytime someone really, like, harps on a persona, like, whether it's like, oh, I'm the nice guy. I'm super religious. I'm the good girl. It's always the opposite of, like, their authentic self.
Angelika Morris:Like, when they make it very obvious, that's what they're trying to do.
Lisa:Yeah. It's like a caricature.
Angelika Morris:Yeah. And it's so exaggerated and extreme. I'm like, I can't work with you because I know you're faking it. You know? Yeah.
Angelika Morris:You're not embracing those shadow parts.
Lisa:Yeah. That's that's so true. Emily and I watch these Instagram reels. They're, like, they're so funny. They're of, like, these spiritual, people that go to festivals, and they put on an act.
Lisa:And it's, like, the funniest thing I've ever seen, but they're able to maintain this act, and they use all the buzzwords. And, you know, it's really it's really interesting, but I imagine that some people do that in their dating life.
Angelika Morris:For sure. And I always know it's like, okay. They're doing the exact opposite of what they're trying so hard to get someone to believe.
Lisa:So, Angelica, how do you suggest helping our listeners connect in with their, center of truth? Like, maybe they're not even quite sure. They've just gotten out of a long term relationship. Maybe it was with a narcissist. But how does one connect in with their authentic self, so they can move forward in dating as a a visionary and thought leader?
Angelika Morris:That's a really great question. I think, you know, having your own social experiments, having your own social experiments to see how your body and your energy feels in front of different people. A lot sometimes when people get out of bad relationships, they just have a very small sample size of what they have experienced. So even if it's, like, a bunch of different people, it's like the same type of person over and over again. So I encourage people like, I did this experiment over two and a half years, 400 dates, first dates, which was incredible.
Angelika Morris:And I, like, made everything a date, whether it's, you know, going grocery shopping, getting smoothies, working out, taking a walk in the park. I just included a guy that was interested in me at the time.
Lisa:And there were 400. I just wanna say, rebounding.
Emily:You weren't using dating apps at all for this?
Angelika Morris:No. I was. That was all dating apps. Yes.
Lisa:Oh, okay. Okay.
Emily:Yes. Like, how
Lisa:did you find them? Yeah.
Angelika Morris:I know. That was, like, pure lead generation. And that's how I knew. I'm good at lead generation.
Emily:Lead generation.
Lisa:Hey. That's what the dating apps are good for.
Angelika Morris:Yeah. So, in those experiments, like, I would notice, oh, I feel really safe with this person. I don't feel safe with this person. I, like, enjoy this type of energy. I don't enjoy this type of energy and just, like, see it as a sampling platter.
Angelika Morris:And not that it matters, like, women can do whatever they want, but I personally didn't have, physical intimacy with anyone until okay. I was engaged when I went to Turkey. That was a while. And then broke that off. And then my current partner, my soulmate partner.
Angelika Morris:But other than that, I didn't have, like, casual intimacy. And for me, personally, it really helped discerning, true emotions rather than, like, that sensual attachment. And I just used it as purely, like, observation and not to get connected to anyone. Some people don't get connected through sex, but I do. So I was like, okay.
Angelika Morris:I'm not going to be intimate with anyone until I know that they're a pretty good fit, and they've been showing me that long term. So
Emily:Did you have the number in mind beforehand? Like, did you know it was gonna be 100?
Angelika Morris:No. I didn't know. I was just, like, on a mission. Well, also, like, I wasn't doing it just, like, for funsies. Like, I made a lot of money on it because that's how I market my retreats, my coaching, my programs, my books.
Angelika Morris:It would be like, okay. On this date, we like, I do, like, a story time, like a girl chat, and then I would plug my experience that I wanted people to buy. So it was also, a job of dating and just telling people about it and sharing my ideas and opinions. So that's, like, half the reason why
Lisa:I did it, half the
Angelika Morris:reason I was looking for someone for my personal life. But when I figured out, it's a lucrative way to, make money. And I knew that to meet someone I would have to date, why not get paid for dating? That's not in a, like, transactional way of, like, men paying me, but having an audience that likes what I'm doing to pay me. So, yeah.
Lisa:That is so interesting. Oh my gosh. I cannot imagine that you've you probably dated more men in that time than I think maybe I've ever dated in my entire lifetime.
Angelika Morris:A lot of a lot of people say that. Like, wow. It's just you know, I, like, wrapped up all the experiences I could just for the fun and just to say I did it, and I wanted to try everything I possibly could until I felt like, okay. This is enough.
Lisa:Did you have any of the guys find your stories that you shared in social media? Were there were they were they pleasant experiences?
Angelika Morris:Yeah. Most of them were pleasant. Some guys found it, and they thought it was cute and funny. But I would, like, block them because I just felt weird, them watching, but no one, like, thought it was odd. They're like, oh, that's cute.
Angelika Morris:She thinks I'm a successful guy.
Lisa:Oh, that's nice. Well, you're so lovely in person, and you come across so genuine. I'm sure that it was, you know, most of the time, a very engaging conversation. It wasn't just, you know, you showing up and and eating a cheeseburger. And It
Angelika Morris:was, like, fun for both parties for sure. Because I generally was interested in the person, and it wasn't like, oh, I just wanna eat today. It was that mutual attraction. If it didn't work out, I was okay with it. But I know, like, some guys, it is very hard.
Angelika Morris:Like, I really feel for men dating, it's a financial expense, even without matchmaking, to always be, you know, expected usually to front the bill and things like that. And so I feel for men. Yeah.
Lisa:Yeah. But it does seem like there is a little bit of just, you know, male tendency to also want to be like, there's some, like, reward or pleasure center in taking care of those details and
Emily:It's a provider. Yeah.
Lisa:Yeah. Provider.
Emily:They're hardwired to provide.
Angelika Morris:Yeah. I definitely agree. Like, they're hardwired to provide. I mean, like, when they're providing, they're showing up the right way, and women are appreciated are appreciative, that's when I feel bad for them. Like, I think a lot of good guys get burned and then get off dating apps and off the dating market because it's like yeah.
Angelika Morris:I see what they're saying. If they go on 10 dates, they spend a $100 on dinner, and no one's even, like, messaging back, thank you. I had fun. It's not a match or, like, just ghosting them. That's what a lot of guys say.
Angelika Morris:Like, I am getting ghosted like crazy. I just wanna hear thank you. Like, I don't even care. And it
Lisa:hurts out, but they're
Angelika Morris:not even getting a thank you. So that's what I mean. Like, sometimes men are just very underappreciated even if they're doing all the right steps.
Lisa:Yeah.
Emily:I think getting getting them off the apps might might be a a blessing in disguise sort of thing because at this point, I would consider not being on the apps to be a huge green flag, personally. You know? But then it's,
Angelika Morris:like, clear to find them in a way.
Lisa:So, Angelica, like, what are, like and Emily is saying, you know, finding people off the apps. You do have, some events that you do for singles that are not they're very, like would you wanna talk a little bit about how those are different than what you might expect for dating event?
Angelika Morris:Yeah. So I don't do, like, structured events, like speed dating or any questionnaire. It's more of, I've changed them, so now nonsingled people can actually come and they can bring a friend and play Cupid. And it's a social setting to just organically interact over a shared interest, and there's a lot of, them. Let's see.
Angelika Morris:We've done, like, a harp concert on the beach. We've done a cacao ceremony. We've done an entrepreneur visionary night. We've done, we did a salsa night. My next one I wanna do hasn't launched yet, like, a political one.
Angelika Morris:Well, that's
Lisa:that's That's the interesting. Yeah. Or take some guts.
Angelika Morris:Yeah. People can just freely socialize with people that they know. They share the same interest. And most people are single, and the people that aren't single, they like helping their friends meet people, and they just wanna do something. There's always an activity.
Angelika Morris:It's not just like, you know, we sit around and look at each other. There's all something to do where, it's like a hobby to just go to the events and see what's out there.
Emily:Hey. Let me know if you ever envision a yoga night.
Angelika Morris:Yeah. That's a great idea. Any type
Emily:of patient interest.
Lisa:Yeah. Emily's space is amazing for that. I think that's a that's a good idea. You have to come visit and see it in person.
Angelika Morris:Good.
Lisa:But, what are some, like, last words maybe that have come together to you in in terms of our conversation today as we've been discussing our our listeners feeling that upward pushing upward momentum and really anchoring and sending her in with their inner truth.
Angelika Morris:Yeah. Whatever you believe is what will be your reality regardless of empirical data. Ultimately, your own inner world is the most powerful manifesting tool because there's probably other areas in your life where you beat in the statistic. So in dating, you can beat the statistic as well by deciding I get to find a great person. I get to live this type of life and believing certain truths about people, and that will just turn your antenna to people that resonate with that same energy regardless of what's empirically out there.
Angelika Morris:Oh, I love that.
Lisa:I think that really, like, breaks the mold for people that are overwhelmed by the sad statistics sometimes.
Angelika Morris:Right.
Lisa:So it is possible out there. So, it's possible for all of our listeners to find their soulmate match. And I'd like to ladies, if you're good, I'd like to take this conversation inside of the Conscious Collaboration Collective, our closed and private Facebook group. You can find us there. Angelica, I believe you're inside of that group too, so we invite you to share more within the group.
Lisa:And, I love this conversation. I think we need to have you come back for our part 2. And, yeah, always lovely to have you and your energy and your intuition and all that you bring. And, so you can find us on all the social media channels. You can connect with us on Instagram.
Lisa:Find us in the description, box of this episode. You can also connect with Angelica. And, Angelica, do you offer a, a way that people can connect with you?
Angelika Morris:Yes. So the best way to connect is going to www.soulmate search matchmaking.com, and get on my free database. It's completely free to be considered for dates with VIP clients, and there's so many opportunities that stem from that, from being invited to private events, retreats, so many different experiences, even clients from other agencies. So sometimes people hear like, oh, match for free. It's like a gimmick.
Angelika Morris:Nothing will ever happen, but there's so many pathways to connect with people. So I really recommend if you're single and not even looking, but you just know you're single, put the vibe out there, get on the free database, and see what happens. I love that. Thank you so much.
Lisa:But thank you everybody for listening, for supporting us, for liking and sharing and subscribing to us on your favorite podcast directory. Any last words, Em?
Emily:I don't think so. I think you covered it.
Lisa:Party over there. Great stuff. Alright, everybody. We'll talk to you in 5.
Emily:Talk to you in 5. Bye, guys.
Angelika Morris:Bye.
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