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Flyover Film Country is a podcast about movies set in places oft-forgotten by Hollywood. Olivia Clement and Isaac Sims are your co-hosts, bringing unique perspectives from Arkansas and Oklahoma! Produced by Walter Lyle.
Your Being Manipulated (00:01.558)
Yeah, think about it.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (00:14.668)
I'm Isaac Sims.
Your Being Manipulated (00:16.481)
I'm Olivia Clement.
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And this is Flyover Film Country, a podcast hosted by residents of Arkansas and Oklahoma. And we have something to say. Every white kid has got something to say.
Pedro Pascal Dies (00:31.886)
Every rich white kid has got something to say. Run it back, run it back. All right, here we go.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (00:33.435)
Every rich shoot I mess it up. Dang it. Okay. Let's run it back. Run it back. Start over. Scrap it. Scrap it. You know what? Scrap it. Start over. Okay. Let's try again. That was good. And then just hard cut. Right there. Cut it. Cut it. Stop it. Cut it out. We want everyone to know that the movies are great and we're building a community of film fans in Flower country.
White Guilt (00:41.687)
Yeah.
Pedro Pascal Dies (00:48.003)
Cut it! Cut the music hard! Cut it hard!
Your Being Manipulated (00:57.943)
That's right, and today we're either gonna get woke or get cancelled because we're talking about the fourth movie from the director Ari Aster, Eddington. So you may know him. He's made some pretty interesting films, quite unsettling films one might say, such as Hereditary, Midsommar, and Bo Is Afraid.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (01:22.683)
And Olivia, you're not going to do it? Not going to do it. I'll do it. Walker Waltaugh is bat Waltaugh.
Your Being Manipulated (01:23.836)
And... No, I told you guys I wasn't gonna do it. No, I told y'all.
White Guilt (01:26.288)
You
Pedro Pascal Dies (01:27.726)
This is so cool.
Nope.
Your Being Manipulated (01:33.358)
See? crumbling under the pressure. Okay, I got his first name Larry last time too. Walker, did Walter tell you, did he tell you that I said that I couldn't introduce you this time on this episode because I butchered your name after we had literally just talked about it I had pronounced it correctly before we recorded. And then I, like an idiot,
White Guilt (01:34.541)
Man.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (01:36.635)
I got the first name right though.
Yeah
White Guilt (01:42.607)
You
Pedro Pascal Dies (01:44.119)
Walker
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (01:47.875)
We've been joking about it.
Pedro Pascal Dies (01:59.032)
Hmm.
White Guilt (02:00.073)
Yeah.
Your Being Manipulated (02:02.603)
I said it wrong. I've literally thought about it once a week. I'm like, I have greatly offended Walker.
Pedro Pascal Dies (02:07.042)
But so like, then when we just thought we're like, okay, Walker's gonna be in this episode in the group chat, were like, messing with Olivia, like, you're gonna introduce Walker again? And she was like, no, I refuse. So we're gonna make Isaac do it. And then Isaac messed it up!
White Guilt (02:18.607)
Man, I feel so special. I feel so special to be here, be back. I'm ready to get canceled.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (02:19.419)
that I messed it up. I sure did.
Pedro Pascal Dies (02:24.076)
You should. Yeah.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (02:28.089)
Yeah.
We are, that's the goal honestly of this episode. Walker got to see Eddington with Walter and Luke Irvin and I at the Arkansas, and Jessica, and Jessica, my wife. Shout out Jessica. My wife at the Arkansas Cinema Society special screening.
Pedro Pascal Dies (02:42.935)
And Jess?
Your Being Manipulated (02:47.159)
Bye bye.
Pedro Pascal Dies (02:51.138)
Hold on, there's four of us in this group right now. Three of us are men and the one who, I just want to point out, the only one who actually made the My Wife reference was the woman in the group.
Your Being Manipulated (02:58.765)
Hey, I just...
White Guilt (03:01.002)
Hahaha
Your Being Manipulated (03:02.435)
Yeah, you're welcome, everyone. The reason I made that reference... Thank you. Is the one podcast I listen to on regular basis, which is actually a Thunder podcast full of like a bunch of dads in their like late 30s, early 40s. They... They are living the dream. That's so funny. Got it, got it, got it, hard cut, hard cut! Anyway, they will do that anytime they do.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (03:05.849)
Olivia, that is why you are the GOAT. You're welcome.
Pedro Pascal Dies (03:15.682)
Okay, hell yeah.
White Guilt (03:19.417)
living the dream.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (03:24.333)
No, cut the music! Cut that! Cut that out! Stop that! Stop that! Stop that! Don't care.
White Guilt (03:25.455)
you
Pedro Pascal Dies (03:25.581)
You
Pedro Pascal Dies (03:31.118)
Shrek
Your Being Manipulated (03:32.033)
Don't care. It's my podcast. You just said I was the goat. Moving on.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (03:36.962)
I, yeah, I, we've, look at all the positivity coming off of the beginning of this episode. It's gotta be great creatively, just inspiring subject matter, don't y'all think? Don't y'all think Eddington was like, I left just buzzing with inspiration and admiration for this pretty seminal work of art, I thought.
Your Being Manipulated (03:39.405)
Anyway, that was reference to them really more than anything.
Pedro Pascal Dies (03:54.7)
I think.
Pedro Pascal Dies (04:05.921)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (04:06.585)
I've sent it up, yeah. So, before we get started.
Your Being Manipulated (04:07.995)
It's kind of like Superman for me.
Pedro Pascal Dies (04:12.981)
Okay, I haven't seen...
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (04:13.307)
More like super woke. Y'all, does anyone know off the top of their heads what Ben Shapiro thought about Eddington?
Your Being Manipulated (04:13.346)
I love just feeling so hopeful.
White Guilt (04:13.709)
I left it with hope.
Pedro Pascal Dies (04:21.261)
Oh, there's no way he's watching that. I'm gonna watch, search.
Your Being Manipulated (04:22.715)
He's never even heard of it. Let me look. Hold on, I'll look.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (04:24.161)
It's weird. He's like.
Pedro Pascal Dies (04:27.371)
Ben Shapiro, Eddington review. only watches, he only watches like the most popular movies, right? Like he doesn't do, he's not doing some, he's not doing Ari Aster movies.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (04:34.553)
to you.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (04:40.067)
I like how Walker, his screen went black and I'm wondering if he's doing like a Blackout Tuesday reference or not. His camera's just not working. Okay, we are gonna talk about Eddington. Spoilers, probably, I mean it's tied for Sinners for my favorite movie of the year. It was just absolutely phenomenal.
Your Being Manipulated (04:48.832)
hahahaha
White Guilt (04:49.997)
I wish it was a bit. I wish it was a bit, but it's definitely not.
Pedro Pascal Dies (04:50.315)
his camera he said
Pedro Pascal Dies (05:05.41)
Wow.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (05:08.411)
I... but before we get into that, I have extremely important content that I need to share, specifically to get Olivia's reaction, but I want to make sure that Walker is also kind of engaged. But I imagine that he's fumbling with the cord for his camera right now. So you with us?
Pedro Pascal Dies (05:28.118)
Yeah, what happened?
White Guilt (05:29.987)
Yeah, my camera's plugged in and for some reason it's saying there's no battery life. And I'm like, well, it's plugged into the wall. So.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (05:38.607)
Hmm.
Your Being Manipulated (05:40.662)
So should have unlimited battery life is what I'm hearing.
Pedro Pascal Dies (05:41.259)
Hmm. Walkers had some battery troubles today.
White Guilt (05:43.118)
Exactly.
White Guilt (05:46.991)
What's that supposed to mean?
Pedro Pascal Dies (05:47.315)
If you well, it wasn't like at five. It's it's it's well, it started at five this morning, right?
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (05:49.957)
Sounds like there's a story there.
White Guilt (05:53.359)
Oh, yeah, that's true. I woke up at five this morning like a bat out of hell is the only way to describe it. My eyes shot open and I heard like a squeak noise and my brain immediately tells me someone is in your apartment and their sneaker squeaked on the ground. And I would lay there and then I looked at my cat and he was chill and I was like, well, it probably wasn't that then, you know? And it turned out to be our fire alarm beeping because it was.
Your Being Manipulated (06:10.498)
Yeah, sure.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (06:10.821)
What?
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (06:18.843)
I'm not yet. Smoke alarm.
Your Being Manipulated (06:22.083)
out of batteries.
White Guilt (06:23.887)
Yeah, and so I went and I started like rummaging through everything, trying to find any batteries in our whole apartment and there were none. So I had to, I drive to the nearest 24 seven gas station. I'm standing in line with two batteries and the cashier goes, did you find what you needed? And I was like, yeah. And she's like, what kind of batteries are you Nine volts. And she goes, is your smoke alarm beeping? And I was like, yeah. And she goes,
There have been so many people coming in here this week with their smoke alarms beeping in the middle of the night, early in the morning, and everyone's come in here buying these novel batteries. My boss asked me people were stealing them. We're having to order so many. I was like.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (07:00.047)
Hahaha!
Pedro Pascal Dies (07:07.021)
You
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (07:07.917)
This is extra funny because your screen is just completely black.
White Guilt (07:11.521)
Yeah, I know. And yeah, so now my camera battery isn't working. I think big battery's out to get me because of what I'm going to say about Eddington today.
Pedro Pascal Dies (07:21.386)
I think so.
Your Being Manipulated (07:21.699)
Sounds like it.
Pedro Pascal Dies (07:24.626)
Yeah, do you have a webcam you can use?
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (07:28.101)
Tifa was coming to get you.
Your Being Manipulated (07:30.732)
Tifa.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (07:31.899)
I may, do you want to tell Olivia the story you shared with, with our group, me and Walter before this was really funny. You should share that before I show you our content, extremely important content.
Your Being Manipulated (07:46.702)
So, I... Due to the nature of my job, I will not say a whole lot of details. But I was having a conversation today at work. And... I was asked... Olivia, what are you dressing up as for Halloween? Now, granted, it's, as of this recording, July 21st. And I- I have not- I have not thought past Wednesday for this week. So I go, I...
Pedro Pascal Dies (08:09.228)
Yes.
Your Being Manipulated (08:16.781)
haven't thought about what I'm doing for Halloween. And without skipping a beat, yes, Isaac.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (08:25.766)
Did you say?
Biiii
Your Being Manipulated (08:33.859)
No, but I think that this person would have thought that was really funny had I said that. But without skipping a beat, this person goes, you should be a Paul Blart. Just, why? We have never talked about Paul Blart. That has never been something that we have discussed. Just out of nowhere, you should be a Paul Blart. And I laughed so hard, I started coughing. Like, I'm really glad I hadn't taken a drink because water would have come out my nose. Like, it would have just been...
Pedro Pascal Dies (08:37.485)
You
Pedro Pascal Dies (08:48.492)
Yeah.
Pedro Pascal Dies (08:53.965)
You
Pedro Pascal Dies (09:00.875)
Yeah.
Your Being Manipulated (09:04.039)
So, so bad. It was so funny. I laughed really hard and I was like, where did that come from? She was like, it just be an easy last minute costume. I was like, why would that be an easy last minute costume? I don't know. I don't have any of that clothing. I was like, where am I supposed to get a segue on October 30th? Like.
Pedro Pascal Dies (09:12.237)
How?
Pedro Pascal Dies (09:22.677)
Yeah, well, if you're now that you are planning ahead, you can buy one now and be prepared.
Your Being Manipulated (09:27.169)
sure... here's the thing. I'm pretty sure they're expensive and I'm really poor, so...
Pedro Pascal Dies (09:34.103)
Do people even use segues anymore?
Your Being Manipulated (09:37.261)
I honestly don't know. I think they use hover boards now.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (09:39.708)
Remember how hot Segways were?
Pedro Pascal Dies (09:42.177)
Dude, it was like... Yeah.
Your Being Manipulated (09:42.291)
I always thought they were terrible.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (09:45.477)
I've never ridden one.
White Guilt (09:46.149)
Didn't the guy who invented segways die by riding a segway off a mountain by accident or something?
Your Being Manipulated (09:49.955)
I think he did. I think he honestly, I think he died while he was, he was writing one. I mean.
Pedro Pascal Dies (09:53.569)
That's awesome.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (09:55.751)
What a way to go. What if it was three segues off the side of a mountain like the buffalo on the poster of Eddington? Yeah.
Pedro Pascal Dies (09:57.887)
If you search Segway... On the poster, If you search Segway, you just see a bunch of electric scooters made by the company Segway. So I think they've moved beyond like the original, yeah.
Your Being Manipulated (10:15.959)
They don't do that anymore. Yeah.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (10:19.228)
Pop quiz, how do you spell segue as in a segue into our next topic?
Pedro Pascal Dies (10:24.744)
Segway, S-E-G-U-E, Segway.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (10:32.092)
I hate to tell you, but you're being manipulated, Walter.
Okay, I'm gonna share our extremely important content. Are y'all ready?
Pedro Pascal Dies (10:41.62)
I'm ready at Walker still. We cannot see him, but.
White Guilt (10:44.517)
I cannot change my camera input while we're recording.
Pedro Pascal Dies (10:48.388)
that's pretty cool. So we just get to... Just look at his camera splash screen.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (10:48.454)
Dang. That really? That's wild.
Your Being Manipulated (10:48.789)
so it's just gonna say, Lumix.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (10:54.332)
At least you're not echoey. okay. Everybody ready? Walker, you ready? All right. I thought I just really wanted, Olivia to see this. Sometimes I come across memes that are so good that I screenshot them and save them to show on our podcast to get Olivia's reaction. And this is one of them.
Your Being Manipulated (10:55.778)
We mix.
Ha
White Guilt (11:04.399)
I'm ready.
Your Being Manipulated (11:19.116)
no.
Pedro Pascal Dies (11:20.652)
Hehehehehe
Your Being Manipulated (11:23.231)
HAHAHAHA
White Guilt (11:24.025)
Hahaha!
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (11:28.028)
I laughed really hard when I saw it, so I knew Olivia would as well.
Your Being Manipulated (11:29.932)
That's really good.
Pedro Pascal Dies (11:34.934)
For those listening, it a, looks like AI generated picture of Sarah Michelle Geller, but it's with Michael Sarah's face on her, the rest of her. And it's spelled Sarah C-E-R-A Michelle Geller.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (11:46.638)
And it's spelled C-E-R-A, Michelle Geller.
White Guilt (11:48.303)
Hahaha
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (11:51.889)
Thank you, at the movie moments. Great follow on social media and laughed my ass off when I saw this. As did Olivia, clearly. So, anywho, y'all wanna talk about Eddington?
Pedro Pascal Dies (11:55.025)
Hehehehe
Pedro Pascal Dies (12:00.14)
That's really good.
Your Being Manipulated (12:02.242)
my gosh.
Pedro Pascal Dies (12:05.908)
I guess.
Your Being Manipulated (12:05.953)
Let's dive right in.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (12:07.708)
Let's dive right in. Let's talk real quick about, okay, so we got to see it, Wednesday screening. It was really awesome. Sorry, just had a burp, drinking a Modelo. Bada.
Pedro Pascal Dies (12:22.102)
We do a quick quick quick drink check. You're drinking Modelo. Olivia, you sipping on anything?
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (12:25.382)
Brought a 12 pack from the Pueblo on the way home.
Your Being Manipulated (12:27.661)
Just water in my Oklahoma City Champions Cup. Yeah. Yeah, it says Champions right there. And then on this side, it's got the skyline. So it says National Basketball Association 2025 and it's got the OKC skyline. it's that's what NBA stands for. Yeah, it's all coming together. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah.
Pedro Pascal Dies (12:29.352)
Nice. Health conscious. Champions Cup. OK. Nice Walker. nice. What does it say?
Pedro Pascal Dies (12:44.968)
That's what NBA stands for. It's all, it's all coming together. This goes all the way to the top. Walker, yeah.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (12:53.392)
Walker, what about you?
White Guilt (12:54.895)
Just water for me tonight. Just water.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (12:56.89)
Let's go. OK.
Your Being Manipulated (12:57.005)
Hey.
Pedro Pascal Dies (13:00.052)
I got, I, well, yup. Okay. I'm, nobody cares what I'm sipping on.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (13:02.98)
So yeah, we're gonna... You got one those Cayman Jacks, buddy, right?
Pedro Pascal Dies (13:08.394)
I got the Cayman Jacks Zero Sugar.
Your Being Manipulated (13:11.459)
Woohoo!
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (13:11.74)
Boo!
White Guilt (13:12.539)
Mmm.
Pedro Pascal Dies (13:12.778)
truly health conscious.
Your Being Manipulated (13:14.467)
Yeah.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (13:14.844)
Yup. Cause nothing says health conscious like aspartame. 60 % of the time it works every time. Yup. Uh, Olivia, what was your experience like seeing Eddington? Like the film going experience.
Pedro Pascal Dies (13:20.332)
Hell yeah baby. Works every time.
Your Being Manipulated (13:31.748)
I had a great time. Yeah, the film-going experience was great. I got to watch the full movie, so no fire alarms were going off like what happened in Superman, so that was cool. I went with four of my friends, and honestly, the theater was pretty full. I mean, it was probably about two-thirds full. And everyone was...
Pedro Pascal Dies (13:43.051)
Yep.
Your Being Manipulated (13:56.896)
in it. Like, everyone laughed at all the same parts of the movie. Everyone, everyone, like, gasped at the same time. Several, several times people, like, leaned forward because they were locking into whatever was happening on screen. it was, yeah, yeah, that happened. I think there was a guy in the room in front of me. I'm pretty sure he was high because he was, like, just kind of, talking to himself a little bit in the movie. And maybe he wasn't high, but I just think it's really funny that he was doing that.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (14:01.734)
Cool.
Pedro Pascal Dies (14:10.346)
That was me a couple times.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (14:22.95)
Yeah
Your Being Manipulated (14:27.307)
And I, of the like five of us of the group I went with, was sitting on the end and the friend sitting to my left, like we kept like hitting each other every time something crazy was happening. We were like, my God, what is happening? It was so fun. It was great time. So that was my movie, movie going experience. What was, what was it like for you guys went to a special screening, right?
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (14:36.444)
You
White Guilt (14:37.275)
you
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (14:46.876)
We held hands the whole time. It was great.
Your Being Manipulated (14:49.783)
That's cute.
Pedro Pascal Dies (14:49.909)
Mm-hmm.
White Guilt (14:50.324)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Pedro Pascal Dies (14:53.964)
Yeah, it was. know Isaac very generously offered passes for that. think we saw it a day before it like officially released to the public, which is cool. I don't think I've gotten to see a movie like that before, but it was at the Arkansas Museum of Fine Arts in Little Rock.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (14:55.132)
So anyway.
Pedro Pascal Dies (15:12.992)
They have like a screening room in there. And so it was really cool to see it just like in an art museum. So that's kind of cool. But then like, Isaac, you mentioned this, like after the movie, it was like everybody who was in there, it's not like a normal movie going experience where it's just like, this is a fun thing to do. Like on a Thursday night or whatever. This was like, this is like everybody's here specifically to, to it. Yes. Yes. yeah. I could try to a way to phrase that.
Your Being Manipulated (15:18.775)
Mm-hmm.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (15:35.942)
Because they're amped for this movie. Yeah.
White Guilt (15:37.209)
Yeah. Yeah.
Your Being Manipulated (15:38.178)
Yeah.
Pedro Pascal Dies (15:40.876)
And so that made like everybody there was very intentional. There was no like I don't know. was just like everybody was very in it More than like you might be able to get from like a normal movie theater. So that was that was cool I hadn't like experienced that before so
Your Being Manipulated (15:53.677)
Mm-hmm.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (15:54.898)
And it's cool hearing Olivia too that like, like your, like we had the same experience and you, yours was like a, you know, like a normal script, like theater screening. wasn't an early screening hosted by a cinema society.
Pedro Pascal Dies (16:00.779)
Mm-hmm.
Your Being Manipulated (16:07.488)
Yeah, yeah, we went... we went... Yeah, we went on a Friday night. I mean, it was just like the the 715 showing. It was just a Friday night. And so, yeah, it was cool. I was not expecting that many people to be there. So I was really, really jazzed. I do feel like, though, if if anyone is even like kind of remotely into movies, then then I think Ari Aster is probably a name that
people are intrigued by because of his previous films. And also I think the cast is intriguing too. I mean, Pager Pascal is gonna, I think, get people in seats. And I think Joaquin Phoenix is also probably one of those types of actors too. So having those two as your your headliners, I think that helped as well.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (16:44.71)
Yes.
Pedro Pascal Dies (16:50.091)
Mm-hmm.
White Guilt (16:50.745)
Yeah.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (17:00.005)
Excellent, yeah, truly amazing cast. It's Joaquin Phoenix and Pedro Pascal and what else? Who else? Emma Stone, Austin Butler. Austin Butler wasn't quite in it as much as we expected and his role wasn't quite what we expected. And this is more of like a callback for me and Olivia specifically and maybe Walker, but.
Your Being Manipulated (17:09.592)
Emma Stone is in it, yeah.
Your Being Manipulated (17:15.758)
Mm-hmm.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (17:27.133)
Clifton Collins Jr. who has been in a bunch of things, but he plays one of the vegan police in Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, like my favorite scene in the whole movie, plays Lodge, the homeless man who was like the hinge point for a lot of critical or several critical things in the movie. And I didn't realize that that was him. I was listening to the big picture and they mentioned him and I said to myself, well, he got cut, like he's not in it. And then I looked it up and realized...
Your Being Manipulated (17:31.916)
Mm-hmm.
White Guilt (17:41.147)
Mm-hmm.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (17:55.632)
No, he's like under all that makeup playing the homeless man lodge. So, yeah, I thought we would have like a non-spoiler discussion talking about our reactions and kind of process what the movie is because it's, it's very, very rich. Kind of what we were talking about. This is probably like the best movie that we've covered on the podcast. It's sinners. I would say, I think we would all probably agree with that. so we'll like kind of signal, when we're gonna
Pedro Pascal Dies (17:57.886)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
White Guilt (17:58.585)
Yeah.
Pedro Pascal Dies (18:07.765)
Mm-hmm.
White Guilt (18:08.41)
Mm-hmm.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (18:25.763)
spoil major plot points. so yeah, let's talk about it. It's a, it's not just about COVID. It's not really like a sloppy regurgitation of what America was like in May, 2020 when the movie set, but it's like, it's about that time. It's like a snapshot about that time. So what it, it starts with Lodge kind of the very first thing you see is him just like mumbling to himself, walking around the city.
and then kind of into the bar owned by Pedro Pascal and Joaquin Phoenix is called to kind of call him off and you kind of get the sense of like...
Your Being Manipulated (18:54.755)
Mm-hmm.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (19:09.009)
This is the tension and there's like, well I'm not gonna do this because you want me to and all that. So yeah, what did you guys think about like the themes of the movie? Was it heavy handed? Did you like the way that it was handled? Was it better handled than you expected?
Pedro Pascal Dies (19:25.707)
Well, I we I talked about this going into it, I think coming out to but like, this is thing about me, I do my best to not watch trailers for movies like in general. So like when I do go here, I try I try not to watch movies and I got dragged into one. And so I like I knew about Eddington that it with the basic premise was that Joaquin Phoenix and Pedro Pascal were kind of like
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (19:37.007)
or movies in general. I really admire that about you.
Your Being Manipulated (19:38.595)
I
Pedro Pascal Dies (19:54.614)
publicly feuding in this small town and it was set during COVID, but that was it. Like I don't think that's about it. So I didn't have any preconceived notions about what was going to happen. And this is the first Ari Aster movie that I've seen all the way through. So I don't even have any preconceived notions of what Ari Aster is all about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Your Being Manipulated (20:09.219)
Really?
White Guilt (20:10.671)
That's wild.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (20:11.537)
That surprises me. Huh.
Your Being Manipulated (20:14.251)
You don't need to watch Hereditary. You're not gonna like it.
Pedro Pascal Dies (20:16.275)
Nope, and I'm not going to.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (20:18.385)
Your time in life has passed.
Pedro Pascal Dies (20:21.052)
Yeah. Yeah.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (20:23.227)
You know, you know about it.
Pedro Pascal Dies (20:24.915)
I know what happens in Hereditary. That's why I still have not watched it.
Your Being Manipulated (20:27.755)
Yeah, I also, I've never seen it, but I also, yeah, I also know what happens in that movie. So.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (20:33.655)
I later on I want to talk about or like power rank. I'm assuming Walker you've seen all four of his movies, right? Okay, cool. Later.
White Guilt (20:42.073)
Yeah, 100%.
Pedro Pascal Dies (20:43.943)
Walker has also seen Ari Aster's student film.
White Guilt (20:47.097)
yeah.
Your Being Manipulated (20:50.352)
okay.
White Guilt (20:51.739)
If you guys don't know about this infamous student film by Ari Aster, I-
Your Being Manipulated (20:57.749)
I don't actually.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (20:58.253)
I know about the synopsis, I read about it, checked online a couple days ago.
White Guilt (21:01.603)
Yeah, mean, it's just, we watched it in college, you know, and it is as weird and crazy and gross as you would expect it to be. So that's probably about all I'll say. You know, it's on YouTube if you wanna see it. It's called The Strange Things About the Johnsons and yeah. I don't.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (21:14.897)
Hahaha
Your Being Manipulated (21:16.739)
Sure. Yeah.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (21:25.937)
and I, that's what was interesting about Eddington is as I was watching it, realizing this is the most grounded movie he's made where there's like, I mean, it's like, it's a genre movie. It's not his previous three were mostly horror coded, I would say. So it's, I was wondering how that like dip into more real issues, real life grounded,
White Guilt (21:36.943)
Yeah.
Your Being Manipulated (21:37.205)
Yeah.
Your Being Manipulated (21:44.739)
Mm-hmm.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (21:54.394)
approach was going to go and I feel like I, you know, he, he and Jordan Peele have both made four movies, I think at this point, Jordan Peele's made three. right? Yeah, I think so. Anyway, like watching this, I realized like he, this guy knows how to write. Like this, like Ari Aster is like one of the great.
Pedro Pascal Dies (22:06.589)
Mm-hmm.
Pedro Pascal Dies (22:12.734)
I think three, yeah.
Your Being Manipulated (22:14.167)
Yeah.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (22:23.673)
modern directors. I would have maybe put him up there before this movie, but I think this kind of cemented him to me as like, like he is going to be someone who even more than before Eddington, someone that I will watch every single one of his movies and people will like pay attention to every single one of his movies.
White Guilt (22:46.341)
Yeah. I think something.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (22:48.581)
It's an incredible feat that he did, tying everything together. It's like not very heavy handed. It's very in the middle. I mean, if you want to like talk about like the politics of the movie, I feel like it's very in the middle. It's very like empathetic one way or the other. I'll kind of read a couple of quotes from Ari Aster himself about like his approach to making the movie. And it was very...
kind of tender and sympathetic and how he wants, he's hopeful for humanity, but it doesn't have a lot of hope that things are gonna change. yeah, was really, really amazing watching this, realizing this feels true, like a truly actual cathartic processing of that time five years ago. We're not a decade away. It doesn't feel too soon to go back to that.
time because even though there's like difficult subject matter in the movie, it's done with like wit and grace and humor, but then also like confronts a lot of like the darkness about humanity. So.
White Guilt (24:02.703)
Yeah, I think one thing interesting about Ari Aster too is he's so good, he's so talented, but you can also see, especially from like between Bo's afraid in this movie, I can tell, I feel like he learned a lot from Bo's afraid. And you see that through this movie. Like I think there were a lot of moments in Bo's afraid that were funny and I kind of shot air out of my nose. And then in this movie, like I'm laughing out loud and the whole theater's laughing with me. And I think that
Pedro Pascal Dies (24:27.794)
Mm-hmm.
Your Being Manipulated (24:29.108)
Mm-hmm.
White Guilt (24:30.543)
He really learned a lot about branching out a little bit more, doing some different genres. You can see that in this movie, that he really is getting into the flow and figuring things out, moving away from more horror stuff. And that's super cool to see from someone that is already so talented anyway.
Pedro Pascal Dies (24:55.881)
Yeah.
White Guilt (24:56.827)
Thanks.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (24:57.864)
I'm opening it up to you and Olivia.
Pedro Pascal Dies (25:02.654)
I'll let Olivia speak about it because I haven't, again, I don't have much to say about comparing it to his other movies because I haven't seen them.
Your Being Manipulated (25:10.019)
my wifi is being really weird. Can you guys hear me? Sorry. My wifi keeps like kind of cutting in out. So I don't know what's going on with that. anyway, what Walter you had asked, I heard you say my name, but I didn't hear what you had actually said.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (25:11.326)
Is Liv still with us? There you are.
Pedro Pascal Dies (25:16.159)
Yes.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (25:16.253)
Yes.
Pedro Pascal Dies (25:21.694)
You're
Pedro Pascal Dies (25:28.518)
I was just kind of talking about Ari Aster. Walker mentioned that he's learned a lot from, like he learned some stuff from Bell's Afraid going into this one. And so maybe you liked Midsummer a lot. And so I don't know if you wanted to speak to like seeing that and then comparing it to something like Eddington.
Your Being Manipulated (25:32.151)
Your Being Manipulated (25:38.04)
Mm-hmm.
Your Being Manipulated (25:50.302)
I did not like Midsummer.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (25:52.978)
Hello?
Pedro Pascal Dies (25:53.002)
We are really losing Olivia.
Your Being Manipulated (25:56.465)
no, can you guys hear me? Am I there? What?
Pedro Pascal Dies (25:57.63)
What?
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (25:58.313)
Well, we can now, but your previous statement.
Pedro Pascal Dies (26:00.755)
No.
Your Being Manipulated (26:05.782)
I did not like Mitzvah.
Your Being Manipulated (26:10.403)
Can hear me at all? Huh, no, I hated that film. I think Florence Pugh's, I think it's good. I think it's a well-made film. I did not like it. Did not have a good time. I think a lot of it is, I watched it. No, no, no. I watched it in 2020. I watched that and The Lighthouse, I think back to back, which was a mistake. That was a mistake for me, where I was mentally and emotionally. And in 2020, terrible idea.
Pedro Pascal Dies (26:10.883)
I thought you did like it.
Yes, I can hear you now.
Pedro Pascal Dies (26:23.24)
Gotcha. Okay, we should have talked about it in a while. Sorry
White Guilt (26:35.321)
Ooh.
Your Being Manipulated (26:40.291)
10 out of 10 do not recommend. So, anyway, it's a well-made film for sure. I think, I really kind of think Ari Aster is kind of like, it is gonna be in a similar category as Robert Eggers for me of both incredible filmmakers. Maybe not for me though. Does that make sense? I...
White Guilt (26:40.569)
Yeah.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (27:07.462)
Absolutely.
Your Being Manipulated (27:08.789)
I liked this film. I think I liked it. I liked this a lot better than Midsummer for sure. But I don't think I liked it to the same extent that Isaac did. I don't know where Walker and Walter like where it ranks for you guys. But for me, I really, think it's just there was so much happening that I was just like, my God, we're back in 2020 again. I don't know if I'm ready to be back there. And maybe that's part of it for me too is like.
Pedro Pascal Dies (27:35.176)
Mm-hmm.
Your Being Manipulated (27:36.81)
It felt like such a great, maybe that's what makes it a great film too, is it really does perfectly capture that moment in time that was pretty recent, even though it feels like ages ago. So, still am like trying to figure out how I actually feel about this movie. And so I was thinking that
Probably as we talk about this more, will have like figure out what my feelings actually are about it. But I really enjoyed my viewing experience and I thought the performances were great. I do think that the writing was really good in this film too, because it didn't, you didn't really know what was gonna happen next. Like you were kind of on the edge of your seat almost the whole time. And the performances were really great in, in.
carrying that out. Because truly you never, like I did not know what was going to happen. At some point I was like, okay, this is Ari Aster movie. At some point the shit is going to hit the fan and things are going to get weird. And it did not, I couldn't have expected like that final like third of the film would have never guessed any of that was happening. So anyway, but I don't want to get into that just yet. I don't want to jump the gun. Cause I know we were just talking about like
our thoughts of the film and Ari Aster in general. But those are the only two movies of his I've seen.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (29:10.302)
I want to share kind of like as the next conversation topic as we talk about the movie, Ari Aster said that when he, he wanted to make this movie a while ago and he's from New Mexico, but he spends most of his time in New York and kind of hinted that he like prefers that kind of sort, that city environment and
He said that when he was preparing to make the movie, he had an assistant, uh, call a bunch of like small towns in New Mexico during 20. It was after, it was after Biden was elected and he, and New Mexico kind of like a lot of, uh, states in the South and Southwest. The, big cities are blue and then like the rest of the state is, uh, Republican and he.
got to hear, he interviewed a lot of people at like political leaders at a lot of different levels and a lot of them were sheriffs too. And he met a sheriff that he like based Joaquin Phoenix's character on and Joaquin Phoenix actually got to meet him. And they like really hit it off and he took a ton of notes. He said his wardrobe is like exactly the same as this one sheriff. He didn't say like what county it was, but I really respect that level of
Not detail, it's like, it's detail, but it's also care, kinda as you're preparing for that kind of movie. And you can, you can feel it in every character that's written. And also it's just so funny watching a movie. Like, Walter, don't, you've been around a lot of like business leaders in Conway. And to me, Eddington feels like Conway if it was like 50 % smaller.
and 50 % less economically important. And when I worked in Conway, I worked in economic development and it just, all this stuff about solid gold magic carp coming to put in a Bitcoin mining solar farm that's going to use up all of the water and like, well we're creating all these, it's going to be so good for the economy. And like kind of these, these disparate, disparate forces of like the social wellbeing of the community verse like
Pedro Pascal Dies (31:07.891)
Yes.
White Guilt (31:11.341)
Yeah.
Pedro Pascal Dies (31:21.992)
Yeah.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (31:36.904)
well, we have to like take care of ourselves economically and we're always in a drought and you know, all these converging forces. was just so like, it's the most like flyover movie, like, like small town, but also like modern small town I've ever, like the best depiction I've ever seen of it in a movie.
Pedro Pascal Dies (31:39.582)
Mm-hmm.
Pedro Pascal Dies (31:48.445)
Yes.
Pedro Pascal Dies (31:52.19)
Yeah.
White Guilt (31:52.709)
Yeah.
Pedro Pascal Dies (31:54.76)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. it, I honestly had not thought about it in terms of like the town that, that we live in, but yeah, I'd imagine you would have that perspective because you worked in it, like had a hand in that kind of stuff.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (32:15.423)
pretty dope.
White Guilt (32:16.441)
Yeah, I I'll say I grew up in a small town that's like totally supported by it's so weird. It's small town in South Arkansas, totally supported by like the defense industry like Lockheed Martin and Raytheon have plants close by. And that is the only reason the town is even around anymore pretty much. And this is scary how accurate they got to small town mentality and, you know,
Pedro Pascal Dies (32:30.057)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
White Guilt (32:44.699)
putting sometimes economic growth over everything else.
Pedro Pascal Dies (32:49.097)
Yeah, yeah, where it's it but to say and it's like a I don't use or desperation or like survival or anything like that because like the town like could still survive without something like this this mining thing but like That like they they see this opportunity and they're like we have to do this like we have to bring this thing in and like Maybe drastically alter the identity of our town, but like otherwise we're will die out
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (32:50.185)
Yep, yep, like just gotta stay alive.
White Guilt (32:53.178)
Yeah.
Pedro Pascal Dies (33:19.305)
So there's like this, you know, I'll say it's almost like this quiet desperation that you, it's like kind of underlying the whole thing. It's very interesting.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (33:30.752)
Yep. The, the, the masks, the infamous masks get like first billing in the movie too. They're kind of the first source of conflict in the movie with Joaquin Phoenix not wearing a mask, even though he's by himself in a car. The Pueblo police pull up and they make him put on his mask, even though one of the policemen is a really big dude and his mask doesn't cover his nose. It's just like.
Pedro Pascal Dies (33:37.875)
Mm-hmm.
Your Being Manipulated (33:40.145)
haha
Pedro Pascal Dies (33:47.442)
Mm-hmm.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (34:00.259)
We're all immediately laughing at the beginning of the movie because we all had that experience of just either being annoyed that someone's standing too close to you and they're like not fully masked or like, God, I really don't want to be wearing this. Like you kind of fall somewhere in that spectrum. And then there's like a bigger, there's like a great like more in-depth scene in a grocery store where an older guy just like
Your Being Manipulated (34:15.1)
Mm-hmm.
Pedro Pascal Dies (34:27.209)
Yeah.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (34:29.201)
is claiming, truly, that he can't breathe if he's wearing the mask, which is, I mean, like, he was an older guy, but also making a big deal of it. And, I don't know, like, it was really funny, and then also, like,
Pedro Pascal Dies (34:39.644)
Mm-hmm.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (34:47.517)
Like you get thrust back into that time, what Olivia did was for those, some of those details kind of like, I don't want to be back here. Let's not, let's not go back here. Cause it was anxiety inducing.
Your Being Manipulated (34:54.851)
Yeah, no, those, yeah.
Your Being Manipulated (35:01.06)
It was anxiety inducing and like cringy too. don't, did you guys talk about the teenagers or like the young, young 20 somethings that, that were all super protesting everything. And especially the, the, the love interest, Sarah, think is her name, who was the epitome of every white woman at the time, right? Of, just like.
Pedro Pascal Dies (35:19.517)
Mm-hmm.
Your Being Manipulated (35:29.926)
of every liberal white woman of like, everything is on stolen land and we have to like, we have to reckon all of this and, but it's not my job, but I'm going to definitely talk to you about it and make it sound like it is my job. Right? and then, and then the, the Brian who, who was like, I'm only going to do this because I'm interested in it. I just want to make out that with this girl. just everything about it was, so, so.
Pedro Pascal Dies (35:30.249)
Yeah.
White Guilt (35:39.493)
Yeah.
Pedro Pascal Dies (35:40.381)
Yeah.
Pedro Pascal Dies (35:54.408)
Mm-hmm.
Your Being Manipulated (35:59.784)
painfully accurate. I was talking with my friends afterwards and they were just like, that was spot on. And that's how it was, I mean, obviously everywhere. Like, you know, we're in Oklahoma and Arkansas and we saw those same exact disputes happen all the time, right? It was something we saw online. Everyone was on their phones the whole time, which was not helpful to anyone.
Pedro Pascal Dies (36:09.117)
Yeah.
White Guilt (36:21.104)
Yeah.
Your Being Manipulated (36:27.72)
And you saw that in the movie too, right? Like Emma Stone's character, Lois, no, Louise. Louise, she was just on her phone and could not get off of it. And that's how you end up in a cult, right? And so it was just fascinating to see such a, I felt like it was really accurate representation of that time, Isaac.
Pedro Pascal Dies (36:45.0)
Mm-hmm.
Pedro Pascal Dies (36:56.327)
Yeah.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (36:59.011)
on the, on the note of the phones, I wanted to kind of not point out, but I wanted to share that in an interview Ari Aster said,
He's being interviewed by Sean Fantasy and Sean Fantasy said, media the characters are consuming is informing the way they see the world, but we don't all consume the same things anymore. So we all are having different experiences of what we like are kind of putting more emphasis on in terms of like what's important to us. And Ari Aster said, I wanted to have more characters in the movie, but I didn't want to sacrifice coherence.
Your Being Manipulated (37:20.946)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Your Being Manipulated (37:30.024)
Mm-hmm.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (37:41.702)
I would have had more characters if I could have that in one way or another represented like a different corner of the internet because that's what we're all living in. We have been living there for a while and kind of in COVID sort of like exacerbated that and made it, made it worse because when Joe is announces that he's running for mayor, cause he's like on a whim kind of because he's feeling good about buying groceries for this guy, you know, and he wants to take a picture with him.
Your Being Manipulated (37:48.84)
Mm-hmm.
Your Being Manipulated (37:52.829)
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (38:09.511)
the aspect ratio with his phone is like really narrow. And it's just like the phones are critical like touch points in the movie throughout and screens like TV screens, social media feeds hilariously at the end of the movie, which I'm assuming we're gonna talk about at some point. So yeah.
Your Being Manipulated (38:20.146)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Pedro Pascal Dies (38:21.788)
Mm-hmm.
Your Being Manipulated (38:31.304)
Mm.
Pedro Pascal Dies (38:32.248)
Yeah. Well, it's almost like that. That's how we lived in May of 2020 was through our screens because we, had really no other choice. And I liked it. There's one and I don't, love it. Mine. I clocked it and maybe this wasn't as intentional as I thought it was, but there's one scene where, uh, Joaquin Phoenix is maybe he's cooking in the kitchen or something and he's watching a video on his phone and his phone is propped up against the, the.
Your Being Manipulated (38:40.145)
Yeah.
White Guilt (38:41.786)
Yeah.
Pedro Pascal Dies (39:01.66)
blank TV in the kitchen. It's like an old, it's like an old like TV. Yeah. And it, he's, he's propped it up against the TV to watch this video. And I was like, and it's not even like it, there's no, political statement or anything. There's just like a, Hey, look at this. We all don't, don't you do this too? We're like, yeah. Yeah. I think Ari Aster does a lot of, I mentioned this to at the end of the movie, but like,
Your Being Manipulated (39:03.217)
Yeah.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (39:05.35)
I didn't realize that.
White Guilt (39:05.979)
I'm
Your Being Manipulated (39:18.812)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (39:21.471)
little thing.
Pedro Pascal Dies (39:30.044)
like he does a lot of little things throughout that like didn't like he didn't have to do it it didn't necessarily advance the plot all the time but it was like just little gags or a little like things just to kind of keep you like hey okay that's good I like that you know a good little touch there
Your Being Manipulated (39:38.674)
Mm-hmm.
Your Being Manipulated (39:44.072)
Yeah.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (39:47.345)
in Ted Garcia's house, played by Pedro Pascal, there was like 40 huge packages of toilet paper and like, you get it, you pan into the room and you see them all kinda come into frame, yeah.
Your Being Manipulated (39:54.418)
To- yes. I clocked that,
Pedro Pascal Dies (39:56.669)
Yeah
White Guilt (39:57.167)
You
Pedro Pascal Dies (40:02.588)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Your Being Manipulated (40:03.994)
Yeah, I I clocked that too. was like, ooh, yeah, I remember that time.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (40:06.282)
Did y'all feel I was gonna...
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (40:12.34)
I was gonna ask, like going back to the protesting and all that, yeah, sorry, I'm just gonna keep going, Olivia, to kind of overcome the lag, but it was one of the reasons the youth protesting and kind of like, you know, really latching on to the social justice and like, I didn't expect the movie to...
Your Being Manipulated (40:12.773)
no.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (40:40.444)
Okay, this is the day George Floyd died and like everybody is watching the news and kind of getting outraged and like it becomes a, a vessel for all of the pent up anxiety and paranoia and frustration and like fear that everyone has from the pandemic. but one of the reasons like that, the jokes are so funny, particularly when Brian is explaining to his parents why he is like,
White Guilt (40:43.13)
Mm-hmm.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (41:10.072)
a white slave master in his family's home and there's just like guns on the wall and then his father like flips out and calls in the R word. But it's really funny because it's like, know why, you know why it's funny and like everyone kind of felt like no matter who you are, would say across the board, like everybody had this sense of I'm not doing enough.
Your Being Manipulated (41:24.444)
Yeah.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (41:40.115)
Even though I'm just like here and like I didn't choose to be in this situation socially or politically and I'm just trying to live my life, but I still feel like I'm doing something wrong. Like it was so funny to watch someone like so insightfully write that and like recall that. and, and again, like on one side of the aisle politically, but it was, there's also like a degree of truth to that joke in terms of like,
White Guilt (41:40.251)
Mm-hmm.
Pedro Pascal Dies (41:45.213)
Yeah.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (42:09.268)
What are you talking about? Like this makes no sense.
Pedro Pascal Dies (42:11.175)
you
Yeah. Yeah. I this might be a good time to kind of talk about. I mentioned this to Walker over text before tonight, but the the discourse in the critiques interviews around the movie that have been more negative.
Your Being Manipulated (42:28.264)
Hmm.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (42:30.75)
been very divisive. Yep.
Your Being Manipulated (42:30.823)
Mm-hmm.
Pedro Pascal Dies (42:32.583)
It's been very divisive and I much like may of 2020 was very divisive. You know, I think it like I, I can't help but see the mirror here. Um, and I, it like, it makes sense. Like if you are, it's just a time that nobody, nobody wants to relive that. Right. And there's never like, there might be some things like I, I even joked about this to Walker to the movie, but I was like, why is it? There's at one point I'm like, why is this making me nostalgic for COVID? Like,
Your Being Manipulated (42:36.839)
Hahaha
Your Being Manipulated (42:42.877)
Yeah.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (42:46.058)
Very true.
White Guilt (42:53.499)
Mm-hmm.
Pedro Pascal Dies (43:02.555)
Just like that, there was like this little pocket of time where it was like, was everybody's still very unsure about things, nobody was going on, but it was like, it was almost peaceful. Like as long as you didn't have COVID, I guess I should specify that. But it was like this, there was like everybody got, I felt like we all got to breathe for like a few days, you know? And then as we all try to figure out what was gonna happen next. And that's what I think this movie like captured that. But the, yeah, what, what, what?
Your Being Manipulated (43:23.4)
Mm-hmm.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (43:32.532)
I was in the best shape of my life. I was reading books. I was playing video games. I was watching movies. I'm just saying like.
Pedro Pascal Dies (43:32.602)
Isaac.
Yeah
Yeah, that was and I got so while if we're in the universe of Eddington set in May of 2020 as all of that was going all the craziness is going on with Joaquin Phoenix and Pedro Pascal. I'm getting married in Mississippi. I got married in May of 2020. So it's like I and then and that's also right when I moved to Arkansas as well. And so like I I had a very mixed bag 2020, obviously.
White Guilt (43:58.555)
Yeah.
Your Being Manipulated (44:06.748)
Mm-hmm.
Pedro Pascal Dies (44:08.443)
And so I think that's what made me feel nostalgic for is obviously because like I had this great life-changing experience at the same time that like all this other crazy craziness is going on and So maybe that's what I got nostalgic for but anyway a lot of the discourse around this movie from reviewers and and critics is Is just I think it's it's holding up a mirror to a lot of people who do not want
to look at themselves or that time or especially themselves in that time. there's that, but then also a lot of the critiques are, and I actually do want all of us to kind of talk about this, it's getting criticized for playing the centrist role and being like, well, both sides are bad, right? And.
White Guilt (44:42.277)
Mm-hmm.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (45:06.09)
You
Pedro Pascal Dies (45:06.503)
I've very, very much have my own thoughts in response to that, but I've been talking for a minute and so I want to. Actually, I want to hear from when you're from Walker. Yeah, because I would have heard from you in a minute.
White Guilt (45:14.671)
I can, I was gonna say I can give a hot take I think about that. I really don't think it is playing the centrist role at all to be honest. I think that the movie obviously it pokes fun at both sides of the political aisle. But the last, I mean, the last third of the movie is very obviously making fun of one specific group of people that sit on one side of the aisle and it's like.
Your Being Manipulated (45:21.48)
Do it.
Pedro Pascal Dies (45:41.749)
yeah.
White Guilt (45:44.687)
This it's, you know, it's just basically like a fever dream of a conspiracy theory that people, you know, on a, you know, on the right actually believed was going to happen to them at this time. And that it's like very obviously such to me. I mean, it's like slapping me in the face. Like this is a critique of obviously right wing media telling people in a town of 2000 people that Antifa was going to come take it over during COVID. Like that was a real thing. And that's like, you know,
living in southern Arkansas at the time, I saw people that lived in towns of like 300 people posting on Facebook like, well, if the riders come here, they're going to learn that we like guns too, you know? And it's like, hey man, you live in the middle of the woods.
Pedro Pascal Dies (46:24.399)
You
Pedro Pascal Dies (46:30.415)
Yeah. Yeah.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (46:31.518)
Which is why his address is to the public of like, the people of Eddington love guns. So come on. And then right after that is when you get the homage to Apocalypse Now with the private jet flying in the Antifa with their masks and like, know, fuck Nazis on their tactical shoulder pads.
White Guilt (46:37.839)
Yeah.
Pedro Pascal Dies (46:46.672)
Mm-hmm
White Guilt (46:46.821)
Right.
Pedro Pascal Dies (46:58.575)
Mm-hmm.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (46:59.314)
And I just was laughing so hard because I'm not saying that it wasn't that Antifa didn't do anything like during COVID, but it was so fun watching this because nothing like what happened in Eddington happened in real life as far as I know. And that's why it's so funny because I realized like this is turning into a cons... Exactly, yeah.
Pedro Pascal Dies (47:22.191)
Right. Yeah.
Your Being Manipulated (47:25.352)
That's what they want you to think.
Pedro Pascal Dies (47:27.906)
Yeah
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (47:28.8)
This movie is turning into a conspiracy thriller and it's like just happened because People just weren't paying attention to each other weren't really hearing what each other were saying and we're like choosing to die on hills that like
Like, like I'll, I'll push back on what Walter or Walker said because there, there is like a degree to where, you know, Joe Cross is extremely sentimental. He's like a romantic guy. That's something Ari Aster said. He said, if you're a romantic person, if you're really sentimental, you're not really paying attention to your own motives, in your own life. And you, and that is true of Joe Cross. And that's true of a lot of people in America, just like across the board.
Your Being Manipulated (48:16.68)
Mm-hmm.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (48:20.053)
But I do think that Joe Cross saying like, we need to like care about each other. And the thing, and I'll kind of like bring us back to the central plot of the movie. Lodge gets thrown out of the bar at the beginning of the movie in a really funny, like bad attempt of Joe Cross to like get him out of the bar. And then later on in the movie, he's walking through the protest and everybody is avoiding him.
Everybody's protesting like police violence, but nobody wants to like talk to this guy or help him at all. And then he breaks into the bar again and Joe Cross kills him. Just like in a rage kills him right after Lodge says he's crying. He's drinking vodka. He's drinking whiskey. He's drinking tequila and he's crying saying like, you don't care about me. You don't care about me. You don't care about me. then Joe Cross shoots him and it is like the beginning of the violence.
in the movie. I mean, like, Pedro Pascal, Ted Garcia is slapping Joaquin Phoenix. So funny. While Katy Perry's firework is blaring, laughing my ass off. Like that's technically the violence of the movie, but that's, but the, but him killing Lodge is the beginning of everything is going down downhill. And that's kind of the point of the movie is like, like this guy represents like truly the outcast of America and nobody really cares about it.
Pedro Pascal Dies (49:18.949)
Mm-hmm.
Your Being Manipulated (49:23.922)
Mm-hmm.
Pedro Pascal Dies (49:26.884)
Yeah, yeah. Great scene.
Your Being Manipulated (49:27.368)
Yeah.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (49:47.938)
And like, we don't know what to do with, he like represents all of these, these like wicked problems that we don't know how to address. We don't know how to deal with them. Um, and I thought that was a really skillful way. Cause I mean, I also saw like a ton of homeless people during COVID wondering like, damn, what's happening? What's happening with them? Do y'all ever know, uh, Walter, did you ever know Moses who lived in downtown Conway? Yeah. Anyway.
Your Being Manipulated (49:47.976)
Mm-hmm.
Your Being Manipulated (50:09.65)
Mm-hmm.
Pedro Pascal Dies (50:13.19)
Mm-mm. Mm-mm.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (50:19.209)
I was rambling for a while. So, yeah. Yeah.
Pedro Pascal Dies (50:19.278)
I assume that's a homeless guy. No, you're good. Olivia, what is your take on, I guess your response to critics saying like, this is dumb because it's just saying it's taken the centrist point of view and it's of the both sides are bad thing.
Your Being Manipulated (50:37.516)
Yeah, think, again, here's the problem with a lot of of those film critics is they live in LA or New York. And they they don't live in flyover country. so they don't actually. And there are obviously Republicans who live in LA and New York. Right. Those people exist. But they're not as commonplace and they're not as
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (50:49.089)
Fly over to Film Country!
Your Being Manipulated (51:05.768)
probably as loud as they are here, where we are all living in central Oklahoma, central Arkansas. And so they're not interacting with them. And so of course they're gonna be like, well, this is just not taking a side and that's bad. really kind of what Isaac was saying of Joe's message of wanting to care for people. We can't meet people where they are because we refuse to meet people where they are. We don't wanna get down in...
Pedro Pascal Dies (51:08.262)
Mm-hmm.
Your Being Manipulated (51:35.588)
in the mud with them. And we want to live in our ivory towers where everything's nice and neat, so to speak. so I think that this film actually is not as centrist as a lot of what a lot of critics are saying it is. I think that actually it is getting at the...
far extremes of what we were seeing at that time and that feels really neutral or centrist but I think really we as a country have on both sides of the aisle have gone so far to the extremes and we are really unwilling to like think about or consider or
care about anyone who disagrees with us and I think Joe Cross is a really good example of that because you know he makes this whole statement of we need to care about each other but then he kills three people in this movie which to me doesn't really seem like you're caring that much about people even when you are really going through it because your wife is leaving you for a cult leader and like all this stuff like I get it like that's that's a bad beat for sure yeah I was like
Pedro Pascal Dies (52:41.594)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Pedro Pascal Dies (52:46.886)
Yeah.
Pedro Pascal Dies (52:57.094)
Yeah.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (52:58.643)
Let's talk, let's talk about, we're almost done, time wise.
Pedro Pascal Dies (53:01.606)
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (53:25.703)
I guess I agree with that. Yep. Yep.
Your Being Manipulated (53:25.778)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
White Guilt (53:26.757)
Mm-hmm.
Pedro Pascal Dies (53:29.952)
some shade thrown at, I would say, I'll just say liberals, but it's not the left. It's at the performativeness of that, that, that neoliberals tend to fall into very easily still to this day, five years later. like it is very obvious. We touched on this, but it's very obvious in like that, you know, 18 year old girl, like, you know, getting up in her ex boyfriend's face who was a black cop.
Your Being Manipulated (53:37.224)
Mm-hmm.
Your Being Manipulated (53:40.88)
Yes.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (53:42.113)
Yes.
White Guilt (53:43.034)
Yeah.
Your Being Manipulated (53:48.562)
Right.
Pedro Pascal Dies (53:59.128)
and trying to tell him that he should be, he should be more mad than she is. And he's like, I know it's not my place to, but you should admit, know, and then, the, our, our, Eddington version of Kyle Rittenhouse at the, at the end, he's given like a eulogy at this, at the Memorial for his friend. And he's, and the one, the line that made me almost cried laughing or he said, and right now as a white man, you know, it's, it's, it's my turn to sit down and listen, which I plan to do right after I finished this speech, like,
Your Being Manipulated (53:59.545)
Mm-hmm.
Your Being Manipulated (54:05.425)
Yeah.
Your Being Manipulated (54:14.056)
Hahaha
Your Being Manipulated (54:26.978)
Yes.
Pedro Pascal Dies (54:28.677)
That's the kind of liberalism that it's shining a harsh light on as it should. But it's like, you're not, like this movie didn't make fun of or critique actual leftists or people who are just pushing back against all of that. So I think it's really short-sighted to be like, it's just saying both sides are bad. I'm like, dude, no. I don't think you watch the same movie.
Your Being Manipulated (54:32.634)
Yes. Yeah.
Your Being Manipulated (54:44.859)
Yeah.
Your Being Manipulated (54:49.756)
Mm-hmm.
No. Yeah.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (54:55.627)
Yeah, great, great insight, Walter. was gonna, so like kind of more, more based on like the direct, the direction progression of our conversation. Awesome Butler plays, I would say like a tertiary role in the movie as like a new age cult leader. I'll tell y'all what I thought he was gonna be. I thought he was going to be a young evangelical pastor and
Pedro Pascal Dies (55:12.089)
Yes.
White Guilt (55:12.197)
Mm-hmm.
Pedro Pascal Dies (55:21.849)
Yes, like a Sean Foite kind of guy
White Guilt (55:21.946)
Yeah.
Your Being Manipulated (55:22.758)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (55:24.603)
Yes, that's what I, and I, I'm not gonna lie. I kind of would have preferred that, but the new age, like kind of cult aspect of his character was something that really drew me in, even though I like don't really fully understand the way it like kind of ties together with the rest of the themes of the movie. Like I kind of do, but not quite as much.
White Guilt (55:24.687)
Yeah.
Your Being Manipulated (55:49.288)
Yeah.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (55:54.563)
I do know that there was a lot of paranoia about, you know, and maybe this is what it was, like the real experiences of abuse and trauma that people like Louise and the other people who came to the house in that one scene at the intended dinner, the abuse that they experienced and how there was like,
Your Being Manipulated (56:07.88)
Mm-hmm.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (56:14.998)
this spiraling out of control, like there's real terrible experiences that people have had, but then also those in the vacuum of isolation from the pandemic. know a lot of people like became paranoid and it led to a lot of conspiracy about trafficking and like.
specifically like the left is doing this and yeah, exactly, exactly like the wayfarer stuff. And maybe that's what it was kind of hinting at, but it wasn't as threaded in with the rest of the movie as a lot of other themes, so.
Your Being Manipulated (56:43.068)
Well, like Wayfair.
White Guilt (56:46.149)
Yeah.
Your Being Manipulated (56:52.744)
Mm-hmm.
Your Being Manipulated (56:56.412)
Yeah. Yeah.
Pedro Pascal Dies (57:00.633)
I turned to Walker like a few minutes after Austin Butler's first appearance on screen and I said, I feel like Austin Butler is having the career that Jared Leto wanted to have. Like he's doing everything that Jared Leto wished he could have done, but he was too insane. So.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (57:13.27)
Yep, it's a good call.
Your Being Manipulated (57:13.369)
huh. Yeah.
White Guilt (57:13.987)
you
White Guilt (57:17.711)
Yeah.
Your Being Manipulated (57:19.632)
and doing it better? Yeah. Well, Jared Leto, I think is a cult leader, actually. He didn't know that the pandemic was happening for like, they were like a month, we were a month into this thing and he comes out of some weird retreat and is like, there's a pandemic happening?
Pedro Pascal Dies (57:24.601)
So, what can you do?
White Guilt (57:28.929)
Actually, yeah.
Pedro Pascal Dies (57:29.172)
yeah. Yes.
Your Being Manipulated (57:38.194)
So.
Pedro Pascal Dies (57:38.339)
I was too busy doing things that I don't want the cops to know about.
Your Being Manipulated (57:44.353)
Yeah. Yeah. my goodness.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (57:47.585)
It was funny, I realized pretty early on that Jared Leto was not all there in an interview. I got really into 30 Seconds From Mars and I was watching interviews when I was in 10th grade or something on YouTube. And I watched an interview where someone was like, he said, you know one of the problems we have right now is the Earth is overpopulated and there's not enough resources and there are just too many people. And the person laughed, the person he was interviewing,
Your Being Manipulated (58:01.832)
Mm-hmm.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (58:17.408)
viewing laughed and he's like, I'm not joking. And I was like, this guy's crazy. He has some weird agenda. anyway, Austin Butler's really good in the movie. Everybody's really good in the movie. Deidre O'Connell plays Dawn, Louise's mother, so good living with Louise and Joe. And like, I know that so many people had that experience too. It's like,
White Guilt (58:26.395)
Yeah.
Pedro Pascal Dies (58:26.795)
He's just crazy.
Your Being Manipulated (58:27.697)
Yeah
Your Being Manipulated (58:31.485)
Yeah.
Pedro Pascal Dies (58:38.543)
She was so good.
White Guilt (58:39.557)
So good.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (58:47.266)
My mom moved in with him or dad moved in with me or my brother or sister moved in with me and like we can't go anywhere and I like hate being with all these people and like, you know, that's it was really funny and she was buying into all the left or all the like far-right propaganda and you know paranoia and conspiracies and stuff Michael Ward played Michael the Sheriff's deputy one of the sheriff's deputies and then Luke Grimes who was also phenomenal
Pedro Pascal Dies (59:04.495)
Mm-hmm.
Your Being Manipulated (59:16.85)
Mm-hmm.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (59:17.058)
uh, played guy, the sheriff's deputy and yeah, like just love, love both those characters. Um, are talked about Clifton Collins Jr. Anything else you want to touch on before we wrap up?
White Guilt (59:32.825)
Yeah, who played the giant penis monster? I can't remember who that was.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (59:41.378)
Are you talking? yeah, okay, let's talk about that real quick. I'm the only one who gets that. Okay.
Pedro Pascal Dies (59:51.214)
Yeah
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (59:54.531)
Should we describe the scene in Bo Is Afraid for Walker and Olivia? Okay, Olivia would appreciate... I really feel like you might like Bo Is Afraid because it's like you would either hate it or love it and I feel like if you saw it with Walker and I, you might really like it. there's a scene that's very... Yeah, yeah, a couple of...
White Guilt (59:55.055)
Sorry, sorry,
White Guilt (59:58.585)
Yeah, might as well.
White Guilt (01:00:19.461)
Maybe after a couple of beers first. Maybe a couple of beers in.
Pedro Pascal Dies (01:00:21.848)
Hahaha
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (01:00:23.276)
Couple of Cayman Jacks, sugar-free margaritas. But Olivia would appreciate Bow Is Afraid because it is like Freud the movie. there's like all like, it's like anxiety the movie. So, but he get, you go through the movie, all this crazy stuff happens that is impossible to summarize. And then he's like, hey, your dad wants, it's something along the lines of, and you can fill in Walker.
Your Being Manipulated (01:00:26.524)
Ha
Pedro Pascal Dies (01:00:28.278)
Yeah, sugar-free only for sure.
Your Being Manipulated (01:00:35.528)
that's okay, okay, all right.
That's amazing.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (01:00:53.184)
Your dad is upstairs. He wants to talk to you and he goes upstairs and hits the- it's a massive penis and balls. And at the point of the movie he's like, his dad's a huge dick.
White Guilt (01:00:55.311)
Yeah.
Pedro Pascal Dies (01:01:06.372)
You
Your Being Manipulated (01:01:06.95)
Hahaha!
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (01:01:08.226)
I was laughing, I was watching this movie laughing my ass off even though it is so gross and grotesque and then like another insane thing happens after that scene. I don't know, but that's what Walker was referring to.
White Guilt (01:01:16.411)
Yeah.
Pedro Pascal Dies (01:01:25.186)
That's so crazy.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (01:01:26.794)
It was so funny.
White Guilt (01:01:28.665)
I see Walter's Google booting up.
Pedro Pascal Dies (01:01:30.7)
I- I- yeah, I'm- I'm looking up- Yeah, my Google Image search, searching giant penis monster, not finding what y'all are talking about.
White Guilt (01:01:35.023)
You
Pedro Pascal Dies (01:01:42.645)
No, I'm just kidding. I'm on the IMDB for Bose afraid for anybody who's curious
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (01:01:43.262)
Anyway, while you're doing that, Walker, where would you rank, like how would you power rank Ari Aster's four movies?
White Guilt (01:01:53.625)
Yeah, I think so. I have a special connection with Ari Aster. Hereditary really is the movie that got me into watching horror movies, which is crazy to say. So, but so that one's probably it's gonna be hard for him to top that one for me. I would rank that one number one. And then it's tough to pick between it and Midsummer for me because seeing Midsummer in the theater with Savannah was one of the
Your Being Manipulated (01:02:04.604)
Wow.
White Guilt (01:02:21.659)
craziest experiences I've ever had because we had no idea what to expect going into it and just from the first scene, know, we both like I just remember looking at each other during the title card and being like, what are we what are we about to watch? Like what's about to happen?
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (01:02:36.184)
a brutal intro to a movie.
White Guilt (01:02:39.139)
So, I'll probably, it's probably three right now. I'll have to watch it again and see where it ends up landing, but just off the rip first watch, it would probably be my third favorite of his. What about you, Isaac?
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (01:02:53.506)
I think that I would, I just, I really, really, I think that they're all pretty close to perfect movies. think, I think Eddington is like the.
I think it's probably his best. I think it's harder to make something that reflects.
something real like that time. I think he just did it like basically perfectly. Like incredible skill, you know, choosing what to omit, what to include, the way you depict like life in like just a town in America, kind of in the Midwest, in the West, Southwest. And then I'm...
White Guilt (01:03:18.938)
Mm-hmm.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (01:03:42.36)
really partial to Bo is Afraid. There's no other movie like Bo is Afraid. That's the other reason why I like, just, I think about that movie and I'll just be like, what? I cannot believe that he got away with making that movie. There's animated sequences. It's like The Wizard of Oz throughout a lot of it and The Odyssey, you know, it's just a wild, wild fusion of a movie. And then I'd probably do Hereditary and then Midsommar. So yeah, that's probably how I'd rank them.
White Guilt (01:03:46.501)
That's true.
White Guilt (01:04:01.007)
Yeah.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (01:04:11.351)
So, is afraid coming soon to Walter's couch featuring Walker and Isaac. Olivia, you're invited as well if you want to make it down.
Pedro Pascal Dies (01:04:19.533)
I really might try it.
Your Being Manipulated (01:04:22.696)
Alright, just give me a date.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (01:04:26.691)
Okay, cool.
Pedro Pascal Dies (01:04:27.012)
Make it happen.
Your Being Manipulated (01:04:27.88)
Okay. All right.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (01:04:30.633)
Any other final thoughts?
Your Being Manipulated (01:04:34.695)
What a movie.
White Guilt (01:04:36.901)
What a movie.
Pedro Pascal Dies (01:04:37.612)
What a movie.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (01:04:37.815)
Great movie. It's like a movie.
Your Being Manipulated (01:04:41.958)
It's a movie.
Pedro Pascal Dies (01:04:42.464)
a real it's got it we gotta quote it at some point
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (01:04:45.709)
Yep, we gotta get that audio clip in.
Pedro Pascal Dies (01:04:49.028)
Yeah, I mean that's the next one because the last one I got and this is one of the most important ones is
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (01:04:58.179)
I have it on my list to get a bunch of clips.
Pedro Pascal Dies (01:04:58.574)
So.
White Guilt (01:04:59.226)
Ha ha ha
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (01:05:05.463)
kind of trimmed down to include in our library. So anyway.
Pedro Pascal Dies (01:05:09.27)
Is it as good as?
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (01:05:11.947)
Nothing's as good as that, so.
Your Being Manipulated (01:05:12.751)
No, nothing's gonna top that.
Pedro Pascal Dies (01:05:13.524)
Mm-mm. That's top.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (01:05:17.091)
Thank you for listening. Please remember to rate, review, and subscribe on whatever platform you're using. Huge thank you to Walter, Lyle. What's your middle name?
Your Being Manipulated (01:05:17.786)
number one.
Pedro Pascal Dies (01:05:26.552)
Who? Mitchell. Why did I give that to you freely? I should not have told you that.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (01:05:29.603)
Mitchell Lyle. Well that's actually, I actually was about to say that but I thought it was wrong, that's why I asked. For producing this episode, thank you. It'll be up tomorrow. Our art is by Sean Cohen, our music is by Corden Jocks. Corden Jocks got two plays at the beginning of this episode, humorously. I don't know if that's ever happened before but that was really funny timing, Walter. Our next episode is Fantastic Four.
Your Being Manipulated (01:05:31.45)
You just gave that up so quickly.
Pedro Pascal Dies (01:05:36.75)
No, that's it.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (01:05:58.34)
Okay, what was the thing you were gonna, yes, yes, what were you gonna say about Fantastic Four?
Pedro Pascal Dies (01:05:58.68)
Can I say something?
Pedro Pascal Dies (01:06:02.538)
If I go see Fantastic Four this weekend or early next week, whatever, I will have seen three movies in theaters over the past month, month and a half, which would be a really good run for me. But more interesting than that is all three of those movies will have featured Pedro Pascal.
White Guilt (01:06:22.447)
Hahaha!
Your Being Manipulated (01:06:22.728)
Amazing.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (01:06:23.267)
That is hilarious. He's having a great summer.
Pedro Pascal Dies (01:06:24.814)
Cause the last one I saw, he's had an amazing start. The last one I was Materialist with you, Isaac, and I love that one. And then just saw Eddington and then Fantastic Four. Pedro Pascal is having his moment and I am having my Pedro Pascal moment.
Your Being Manipulated (01:06:27.27)
Yeah.
White Guilt (01:06:32.379)
You
Your Being Manipulated (01:06:40.742)
Love that for you.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (01:06:41.313)
He was almost gonna be Josh Brolin's character in Weapons and he dropped out for filming conflicts or scheduling conflicts. Yeah. You can see Weapons Walker.
Pedro Pascal Dies (01:06:48.612)
Mmm, a movie that I will probably not see, unfortunately.
Your Being Manipulated (01:06:48.968)
Mmm.
White Guilt (01:06:48.987)
Mmm.
White Guilt (01:06:56.523)
yes, absolutely. Yeah. The Justin Bieber album? Is that what you're talking about?
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (01:06:59.395)
Swag. Swag.
Your Being Manipulated (01:07:04.328)
Nice. Topical. Nice.
Pedro Pascal Dies (01:07:04.452)
Yeah, that one. They made a movie out of the Justin Bieber album.
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (01:07:07.056)
Is that the one that... Did that come out like last week? Okay, that's hilarious. Interesting timestamp.
White Guilt (01:07:11.075)
Yeah. Yeah.
Your Being Manipulated (01:07:11.207)
Yeah.
White Guilt (01:07:14.895)
It has an inner it has an inner lewd where Drew Ski tells him he is a black soul and he says thank you bro. Thank you. It's pretty sweet.
Pedro Pascal Dies (01:07:15.14)
You
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (01:07:21.357)
Nice. Nice. Alright, Fantastic Four next week. Also, we're going to weekly episodes, so, boo yah. We're gonna be bringing y'all lots of fun content.
Your Being Manipulated (01:07:21.896)
my god
Your Being Manipulated (01:07:32.114)
Boo yah!
Pedro Pascal Dies (01:07:36.664)
The sparks are really about to fly.
Pedro Pascal Dies (01:07:41.806)
Okay, I'm gonna...
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (01:07:42.103)
Alright, we will talk to y'all
This Podcast Is Stolen Ground (01:07:51.415)
We need to free each other's hearts. Thank you super duper very much for listening to this episode.
The people of Eddington love guns. And I love guns.