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Speaker 0: I've made over a quarter million dollars
Speaker 0: from digital products online.
Speaker 0: I want to give you my three rules I've used
Speaker 0: since 2015 that I never break to help me
Speaker 0: reach this income level.
Speaker 0: What's up, people, I'm Chris.
Speaker 0: Welcome back to the channel.
Speaker 0: Here we turn ambition into achievement so
Speaker 0: you can become a profitable digital
Speaker 0: entrepreneur.
Speaker 0: Today, I want to get into just some rules
Speaker 0: that I have when I'm making these digital
Speaker 0: products.
Speaker 0: There are some things you should do and you
Speaker 0: shouldn't do.
Speaker 0: I'm going to tell you three things that I
Speaker 0: always do to make sure whatever product I'm
Speaker 0: making is going to make me money.
Speaker 0: Before I get started, I kind of want to
Speaker 0: show you what this looks like, right?
Speaker 0: So I want to show you, just give you a
Speaker 0: perspective of what this is.
Speaker 0: Here are some DMs from years ago of me just
Speaker 0: scheduling calls with prospects.
Speaker 0: This is part of my process.
Speaker 0: I like to talk to people.
Speaker 0: First number one.
Speaker 0: Number two we get on Zoom, right?
Speaker 0: We had that conversation for a good 20, 30
Speaker 0: minutes.
Speaker 0: I show them the product outline and what it
Speaker 0: looks like.
Speaker 0: They give me feedback.
Speaker 0: Later on they become paying customers,
Speaker 0: right?
Speaker 0: So that's literally my process, right there,
Speaker 0: and I'm going to break this down step by
Speaker 0: step.
Speaker 0: So it's something that you can use in your
Speaker 0: business.
Speaker 0: So the first thing I always do is get
Speaker 0: feedback from clients.
Speaker 0: I love to get feedback because I want to
Speaker 0: know that what I'm doing is good, right and
Speaker 0: it's really twofold the way I get feedback.
Speaker 0: Number one is from prospects.
Speaker 0: Before I make anything, before I go out
Speaker 0: here and make a bunch of stuff and do a
Speaker 0: bunch of videos and like for my courses,
Speaker 0: I'm doing like 20 lessons, 10 to 15 minutes
Speaker 0: each lesson.
Speaker 0: I do a workbook.
Speaker 0: Some of them have presentations.
Speaker 0: Like it's hours of work, right, it's
Speaker 0: literally 20, 30 hours to put together one
Speaker 0: course for me.
Speaker 0: So before I do any of that, I need to know
Speaker 0: somebody going by this.
Speaker 0: Like I need people to say yes, I will pay
Speaker 0: for that, tell me when it comes out so I
Speaker 0: can buy it.
Speaker 0: Like I need that confirmation from human
Speaker 0: beings.
Speaker 0: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 0: Sometimes what I even do is have the sale
Speaker 0: link set up before that call.
Speaker 0: So I just show the outline and they're like
Speaker 0: oh my God, I love this and I'm oh.
Speaker 0: Well, look, you can pay 50% off right now
Speaker 0: and I'll make sure I send it to you once
Speaker 0: it's done and that's my reward for them for
Speaker 0: giving me feedback.
Speaker 0: It's a little pro tip for you.
Speaker 0: Sometimes, instead of giving people
Speaker 0: everything for free and all that stuff, I
Speaker 0: give them 50% off and they just pay that
Speaker 0: early right Now.
Speaker 0: That pays for me to go and actually make
Speaker 0: the product.
Speaker 0: Now I will say for some products I don't
Speaker 0: need that.
Speaker 0: Like, if I'm doing a masterclass on a very
Speaker 0: specific topic, like I just did one
Speaker 0: recently on the niche navigator, on why you
Speaker 0: should create your own niche and not find
Speaker 0: one, I didn't really need anybody to tell
Speaker 0: me that this is a good idea.
Speaker 0: You know what I'm saying Because it's
Speaker 0: something I've talked about with
Speaker 0: entrepreneurs for years a decade at this
Speaker 0: point.
Speaker 0: So I just knew I wanted to make something
Speaker 0: to kind of show people, because one of my
Speaker 0: things for years is you got to create your
Speaker 0: own lane in this.
Speaker 0: Like I'm in podcasting, but I'm also in
Speaker 0: software and I'm in entrepreneurship, I do
Speaker 0: public speaking.
Speaker 0: Like I do a lot of things and I've created
Speaker 0: my own lane.
Speaker 0: I want to show other people I do the same
Speaker 0: thing, right.
Speaker 0: So that's one of those things I didn't
Speaker 0: really need feedback on, because I just
Speaker 0: knew it was something people would be into
Speaker 0: Now, when you're setting up these feedback
Speaker 0: sessions, one thing I always do is record
Speaker 0: them.
Speaker 0: I love recording these and I want to say
Speaker 0: this I know everybody hates Zoom now
Speaker 0: because we had to do it for so long and it
Speaker 0: was so bad.
Speaker 0: But use Zoom, because we know these video
Speaker 0: calls and make them turn the video on.
Speaker 0: Yes, you have to use video, I know I know,
Speaker 0: but this is how you get good feedback,
Speaker 0: because as you're going through the outline
Speaker 0: and you're giving them details of the offer,
Speaker 0: you're going to get reactions.
Speaker 0: Sometimes the reaction they have is more
Speaker 0: important than what they say, because they
Speaker 0: might think something or like Whoa, and
Speaker 0: they won't say anything.
Speaker 0: But if you can see their faces like, hmm,
Speaker 0: okay, I'm telling you, and sometimes we
Speaker 0: don't even catch it because we might not be
Speaker 0: looking at the screen or not paying
Speaker 0: attention.
Speaker 0: That's why I record these calls.
Speaker 0: Sometimes I watch videos back and I'm like,
Speaker 0: oh, wow, I didn't know they had that
Speaker 0: reaction Like that is crazy how often that
Speaker 0: happens.
Speaker 0: Now, I think recording them is also good
Speaker 0: too, because then after you have a bunch of
Speaker 0: people giving you feedback, telling you the
Speaker 0: product is great, I even clip that up and
Speaker 0: use it as a testimonial, obviously with
Speaker 0: their permission.
Speaker 0: But if they're even seeing an outline like,
Speaker 0: wow, this product is amazing, I love what
Speaker 0: you're doing here, blah, blah, blah that's
Speaker 0: a testimonial.
Speaker 0: They're telling you the outline is great,
Speaker 0: like they're telling you the product is
Speaker 0: great, before you're even done with it,
Speaker 0: before you even fully put it together, they
Speaker 0: already love it.
Speaker 0: That means you've got something good here.
Speaker 0: So I'm using that clip as a testimonial to
Speaker 0: sell this product.
Speaker 0: So feedback early on is a very big deal.
Speaker 0: It is a rule of mine.
Speaker 0: Mine Do not break that rule.
Speaker 0: By the way, if you're enjoying this so far,
Speaker 0: make sure you subscribe to the channel,
Speaker 0: like video, all that good stuff.
Speaker 0: But I'm giving you a free gift.
Speaker 0: Download the digital product profit secrets.
Speaker 0: It's completely free.
Speaker 0: Send a description down below.
Speaker 0: It'll help you create more profitable
Speaker 0: digital products a lot faster.
Speaker 0: Now my next rule is to always stack
Speaker 0: solutions, and by stack solutions I mean
Speaker 0: you solve problems.
Speaker 0: And think of it this way when I say solve
Speaker 0: problems, when people are trying to get to
Speaker 0: a big outcome, it's not like it's only one
Speaker 0: problem that they're facing.
Speaker 0: It's usually a bunch of little problems and
Speaker 0: then there's a bigger problem, right Like
Speaker 0: you're a digital entrepreneur you.
Speaker 0: Obviously the big thing is you want to make
Speaker 0: more money, but there's a reason why you
Speaker 0: want to make more money and there's a
Speaker 0: roadblock, in a way, of why you can't
Speaker 0: execute right.
Speaker 0: You might not have the best ideas, you
Speaker 0: might not know what tools to use, you might
Speaker 0: not know how to make certain things right.
Speaker 0: That's why you're here watching this video.
Speaker 0: So my content is solving a small problem
Speaker 0: here.
Speaker 0: Right, I'm just figuring out ideas right
Speaker 0: now.
Speaker 0: I'm giving you rules and next step might be
Speaker 0: okay.
Speaker 0: Here's how you actually make that product.
Speaker 0: I got a video on that, obviously, and we go
Speaker 0: down the line of solving those problems.
Speaker 0: That's how you make good products.
Speaker 0: You solve the problems around the main
Speaker 0: problem.
Speaker 0: When I work with podcasters, I know the big
Speaker 0: thing most podcasters want is profitability.
Speaker 0: Everybody wants to get sponsored or sell
Speaker 0: some product or something Great.
Speaker 0: But I need to know, okay, how are you
Speaker 0: marketing your show?
Speaker 0: How are you getting listeners?
Speaker 0: How do you convert listeners into customers?
Speaker 0: If you're going to sponsor route, okay,
Speaker 0: what kind of companies do you want to work
Speaker 0: with?
Speaker 0: How are you doing outreach?
Speaker 0: What are your brand packages?
Speaker 0: Right?
Speaker 0: So it's a bunch of small problems that lead
Speaker 0: up to a bigger problem.
Speaker 0: The best digital products address those
Speaker 0: problems.
Speaker 0: The fun part about this is you can make
Speaker 0: products to solve each problem separately.
Speaker 0: It really just depends on the kind of
Speaker 0: business you want to build.
Speaker 0: If you want to build a really profitable
Speaker 0: brand, I think it's smart to have different
Speaker 0: digital products to solve different
Speaker 0: problems along the way, and then some of
Speaker 0: them have more of your interaction as they
Speaker 0: continue to go up in price, right?
Speaker 0: So for the niche navigator, if you go and
Speaker 0: buy that, that's something you just buy and
Speaker 0: you take on your own.
Speaker 0: You go through the process on your own.
Speaker 0: That's all you.
Speaker 0: Now, with one of my other programs, the 10K
Speaker 0: Accelerator Roadmap, you not only get the
Speaker 0: videos, the workbook, the presentations,
Speaker 0: you get a couple of one-on-one sessions
Speaker 0: with me.
Speaker 0: So now you go through this process of
Speaker 0: videos and all the content, but then you
Speaker 0: also can talk to me about all of this stuff.
Speaker 0: Right, I'm solving bigger problems.
Speaker 0: Each of these products I make solves a
Speaker 0: different problem for my market.
Speaker 0: That's how you make a profitable business.
Speaker 0: It's not about making as many products as
Speaker 0: you can, because I see that a lot where
Speaker 0: people have 10,000 products and you look at
Speaker 0: it and it's like this is just too much.
Speaker 0: It's chaotic.
Speaker 0: Each product needs to address a different
Speaker 0: problem your customer is facing.
Speaker 0: I know that a digital entrepreneur wants to
Speaker 0: know how to make their products more
Speaker 0: profitable.
Speaker 0: They want to do it faster, so I have a 10K
Speaker 0: accelerator.
Speaker 0: They probably haven't made their own niche
Speaker 0: yet.
Speaker 0: They're still trying to find one, which I
Speaker 0: just disagree with.
Speaker 0: All of these products I have are addressing
Speaker 0: your problems in some kind of way.
Speaker 0: That's how you build a profitable brand.
Speaker 0: One of my favorite examples of this is
Speaker 0: personal trainers.
Speaker 0: I love how personal trainers can solve
Speaker 0: multiple problems for their clients in a
Speaker 0: really easy way.
Speaker 0: Like, think about how dope this is.
Speaker 0: People can come to them saying, oh, I want
Speaker 0: to live a healthier lifestyle, I want to
Speaker 0: lose weight, all of this stuff.
Speaker 0: I want to get more muscular, whatever it is,
Speaker 0: and then they end up doing a bunch of
Speaker 0: things that are all little problems around
Speaker 0: that main desire, right, like, you want to
Speaker 0: live a healthier lifestyle?
Speaker 0: Okay, that means you need to get more sleep,
Speaker 0: okay, so let's set up a sleep planner, a
Speaker 0: nap schedule or whatever.
Speaker 0: You need to eat healthier, so let's do a
Speaker 0: grocery list.
Speaker 0: Let's set up a snack plan?
Speaker 0: Oh, what's another one?
Speaker 0: You wanna lose weight?
Speaker 0: Okay, perfect, we need to set up a workout
Speaker 0: plan.
Speaker 0: What days do you work out?
Speaker 0: What are you doing?
Speaker 0: What machines are you using?
Speaker 0: All that stuff?
Speaker 0: Like that's the way everybody should work.
Speaker 0: When you have that kind of solution plan
Speaker 0: for your customers, now they will love your
Speaker 0: brand because you can solve so many of
Speaker 0: their problems in so many different ways.
Speaker 0: You're not just there like, hey, I got this
Speaker 0: one thing for you, that's it.
Speaker 0: Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 0: The whole template business is fine, but
Speaker 0: that's not going to get you to 20K a month.
Speaker 0: It's just not because you're not solving a
Speaker 0: big enough problem.
Speaker 0: You're not solving enough problems.
Speaker 0: You want to solve the right problems in the
Speaker 0: right ways.
Speaker 0: Rule number three is to price correctly.
Speaker 0: Now, when I say price correctly, it doesn't
Speaker 0: mean charge what you're worth and all of
Speaker 0: that crap that you hear from all these
Speaker 0: other people.
Speaker 0: That's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 0: I'm saying you want to charge based on the
Speaker 0: market you're serving.
Speaker 0: Right.
Speaker 0: If I was to sell a course to people in
Speaker 0: digital entrepreneurship, I'm not only
Speaker 0: going to have one course.
Speaker 0: That's $1,000 for beginner entrepreneurs,
Speaker 0: right?
Speaker 0: That's not smart, because most beginner
Speaker 0: entrepreneurs probably still work their
Speaker 0: full-time job.
Speaker 0: They probably don't have a lot of
Speaker 0: disposable income, right.
Speaker 0: So if they're doing this, it needs to be
Speaker 0: something that needs to be accessible,
Speaker 0: right?
Speaker 0: If I want to have customers, it has to be
Speaker 0: accessible.
Speaker 0: Now, if I just jump out there with a
Speaker 0: $10,000 product, that probably won't make a
Speaker 0: lot of sense for the beginner digital
Speaker 0: entrepreneur, whereas if I have a $50
Speaker 0: workshop, maybe a $200 consulting package
Speaker 0: and in a $1,000 course, that's a pretty
Speaker 0: good setup, because now if you want to make
Speaker 0: those investments and work with me, you can
Speaker 0: start here and work your way up and get
Speaker 0: more solutions along the way and I can kind
Speaker 0: of hold your hand through the process,
Speaker 0: which is what you probably need as a
Speaker 0: beginner.
Speaker 0: Nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 0: Now, if I'm working with high level CEOs
Speaker 0: and Fortune 500 companies and they come to
Speaker 0: me and say, hey, we want you to launch,
Speaker 0: produce, manage all of this stuff with our
Speaker 0: podcast, I couldn't go to them with the
Speaker 0: same price point I would for a beginner
Speaker 0: podcaster.
Speaker 0: They'll just laugh me out the door, like in
Speaker 0: some markets you're in where you have to
Speaker 0: charge more, they won't even take you
Speaker 0: serious.
Speaker 0: Like to them.
Speaker 0: Paying a thousand dollars for a podcast
Speaker 0: launch would be insane.
Speaker 0: They look at me like this guy probably
Speaker 0: doesn't know what he's doing, right,
Speaker 0: because other people they've talked to are
Speaker 0: charging 10 times that.
Speaker 0: So in some markets you have to charge more
Speaker 0: because that's the market standard and if
Speaker 0: you're below that standard people think
Speaker 0: your services are below that standard.
Speaker 0: So you got to think about pricing in terms
Speaker 0: of the market you're serving.
Speaker 0: I see people trying to raise prices but
Speaker 0: they aren't understanding that the industry
Speaker 0: you're in that's just not the price, right,
Speaker 0: that's not how it goes and truthfully, it's
Speaker 0: something I ran into years ago in
Speaker 0: podcasting.
Speaker 0: When I was doing consulting, I realized the
Speaker 0: peak of my consulting prices in a
Speaker 0: podcasting space was like a couple hundred
Speaker 0: dollars, maybe 500 at the most.
Speaker 0: Anytime I went past that it was hard to
Speaker 0: sell.
Speaker 0: The clients were paying.
Speaker 0: It was just really difficult to sell like
Speaker 0: that.
Speaker 0: Now, when I provide services in that space,
Speaker 0: I can still charge a lot more.
Speaker 0: Right, because that's a service, but in
Speaker 0: terms of the average podcast host it's just
Speaker 0: not going to work.
Speaker 0: Right, because that's a service, but in
Speaker 0: terms of the average podcast host it's just
Speaker 0: not going to work right.
Speaker 0: I have to work more.
Speaker 0: So with businesses that have podcasts to
Speaker 0: charge more because it just works better in
Speaker 0: that market.
Speaker 0: I see some people kind of being upset about
Speaker 0: things like this.
Speaker 0: I don't think it's a bad thing.
Speaker 0: I think you just have to know how to pivot
Speaker 0: your industries and where you are in terms
Speaker 0: of your business, because if you want to
Speaker 0: charge more, you want to raise your prices
Speaker 0: and you start adding that service in at
Speaker 0: that value.
Speaker 0: That means you have to also start marketing
Speaker 0: a little different too, like for my agency
Speaker 0: services.
Speaker 0: For years I worked with podcasters charging
Speaker 0: $100 to $500 for pretty much everything the
Speaker 0: digital products or a service or whatever
Speaker 0: it was.
Speaker 0: It was just prices ranging through there,
Speaker 0: right, whereas now I don't have any
Speaker 0: services in the podcast space at that price.
Speaker 0: Now I do have my digital products, like my
Speaker 0: software and a community and all that stuff,
Speaker 0: but if you're talking about a service, none
Speaker 0: of my services are there anymore.
Speaker 0: It's literally 10 times more.
Speaker 0: So I just had to make a pivot and a change
Speaker 0: in my business.
Speaker 0: I don't think there's anything wrong with
Speaker 0: that, but you have to just be aware of that
Speaker 0: and don't get mad at the customer.
Speaker 0: Let's be real.
Speaker 0: If you were getting charged one price one
Speaker 0: day and a week later it's 10 times that you
Speaker 0: would have a lot of questions, right?
Speaker 0: So your older customers won't be able to
Speaker 0: make that transition with you most of the
Speaker 0: time.
Speaker 0: You got to be okay with that.
Speaker 0: But I want to be clear on this too, because
Speaker 0: people think I'm like in a disagreement
Speaker 0: with this.
Speaker 0: I do believe in getting paid what you're
Speaker 0: worth.
Speaker 0: I just think we have to raise our worth
Speaker 0: first.
Speaker 0: If you are right here with the value that
Speaker 0: you deliver, you can't charge prices that
Speaker 0: are here.
Speaker 0: That does not make sense to me, and I see
Speaker 0: this mostly in digital entrepreneurship,
Speaker 0: where people just raise prices just because
Speaker 0: they changed their website.
Speaker 0: Like that's not justifiable to the actual
Speaker 0: customer as to why they're paying more.
Speaker 0: But when you start adding more services,
Speaker 0: you may add in other features and benefits
Speaker 0: and stuff, maybe some other resources.
Speaker 0: You make the offer better.
Speaker 0: Now you can raise your prices.
Speaker 0: So those are my three rules that I follow
Speaker 0: and I never break these rules and they just
Speaker 0: helped me really, really build successful
Speaker 0: companies.
Speaker 0: Now, if you've got any other questions,
Speaker 0: make sure you put them in the comments
Speaker 0: below.
Speaker 0: I love answering every single question.
Speaker 0: I'm going to try to keep that going as long
Speaker 0: as the channel is growing.
Speaker 0: You know what I'm saying, I like talking to
Speaker 0: the entrepreneurs in the comments and stuff,
Speaker 0: so please give me feedback.
Speaker 0: Also, let's connect on Instagram.
Speaker 0: I got a link down in the description box
Speaker 0: down below.
Speaker 0: Follow me if you're an entrepreneur.
Speaker 0: I love checking out new businesses and
Speaker 0: stuff.
Speaker 0: I'm trying to integrate that with the
Speaker 0: channel more.
Speaker 0: I got some ideas I might be executing soon,
Speaker 0: so it'll be some test content, but I love
Speaker 0: your feedback.
Speaker 0: Let me know in the comments below what you
Speaker 0: think.
Speaker 0: Also, go and download the Digital Product
Speaker 0: Profit Secrets.
Speaker 0: It's gonna help you immediately, like, if
Speaker 0: you wanna get to that point where you can
Speaker 0: raise your prices and stuff.
Speaker 0: This is exactly what you need.
Speaker 0: I made it free so you can go and download
Speaker 0: it right now.
Speaker 0: I'll see you next time.