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what is going on everybody
welcome to thursday night
crossfit talk and we have
technical issues right off
the top oh everywhere yeah
so we stream to twitch we
stream to twitter we stream
for facebook and we stream
to youtube and as I launch
tonight's broadcast twitch
is having issues
And so I had to like clear
out some stuff there and
remove us from Twitch for this broadcast.
So no Twitch tonight.
And we deeply apologize for
the versus show buffering so much.
We tried something different
this week to see if we
could get that figured out.
Didn't work.
We're going to keep trying,
and I'm going to reach out
to StreamYard to see what's
going on with it.
Because we have done this
type of broadcast before,
and it's never buffered.
It's just started doing this
with the Versa series for some reason.
So all fun technical stuff.
I thought when I was in my
20s I would always be
technologically savvy,
and I've learned that I'm not anymore.
Yeah, I'm not.
Yeah.
I know how to plug in microphones now.
That's about it.
Yeah.
So how was everybody's week?
Oh, great.
That was good for me.
I mean, that was a short week for school.
We have this Friday, yes, or tomorrow and
monday off so I drove home
to sarnia which is my
hometown right after school
today so I'm home thanks
and you have a big family
right and are they all in
for the weekend uh they
will be uh my my one sister
is missing she'll be here
uh saturday I think is your
twin there yes I saw her today
okay um you also had a good
week because you got the
official video verified
what was that process like
did you just get an email
saying congratulations
you're you're good um
Yeah,
essentially the email that I posted
on my story was the email
from Becky from CrossFit
that sent us that.
But like none of the videos
got like individually
verified like we get at quarterfinals.
It was just that email that
confirmed my placement.
And then I went to the
leaderboard to see if
anything had changed in my
numbers and none of my
scores had changed.
I'm like, okay, I'm good.
And then when I did that right away,
I had noticed the change at
the top and I was like, oh,
someone got a,
penalty and then knew right
away um like what we're
going so uh she won 2500 us
dollars equal spousal split
sounds legit she also she
also told me about equal
spouse um split when she
paid for coast and cali's
uh vaccines today or yesterday sorry
So the only bright side for
Carolyn is when you convert
that to Canadian,
you're actually making more.
It'll end up being the same
because we'll get like 30%
withhold and stuff like that.
So normally it's going to be
like 3,500 American,
which comes back to around
5,000 Canadian.
Okay.
Yeah, 30%.
Dang.
Yeah, they always hold that.
Oh, yeah.
That's not just a Canadian thing.
No.
So any plans for it or just
put it away to pay for your season?
No, I'm just saving up for Lex and I,
family stuff, future plans,
maybe eventually a house or something,
but just saving up.
Very cool.
I'm not a big spender.
workout clothes shoes can't
justify that stuff anymore
like I have too much yeah
and you're like are you
still sponsored by tier or
was that a one season yeah
so that technically ended
um middle of march I had
like a one-year contract
and then um so that ended
and then I would I didn't
get extended technically
but I mean I'll still be
wearing tier like I like
their stuff um that won't change
So hopefully I can get back onto it.
They said like, if I make,
let's say the games or
something like they would
do another type of possible
deal or something like they
do to some of the athletes
at certain competitions.
So hoping to get that again,
because it was a really good partnership.
It helped me a lot
throughout my season for
some of the expenses.
So I was bummed that I
wasn't able to resign something, but like,
I also don't have like an
agent and stuff like that
working to help me
some of the other athletes
do so um I guess lex counts
sometime as my my agent but
with less experience than
some of the ones out there
and she takes 50 split
instead of yeah that's a
hard that's a hard taxing
right there lex I don't
know about this agent now
might need a new one might
fire her yeah we gotta let
them know you're on the the
original thursday night crossfit podcast
As Kenneth likes to always say,
be original.
Yeah, and you've placed fifth in the Open,
and you've been on around the whiteboard.
Like,
you've probably had more exposure
this season overall
media-wise than you have in
a couple years.
Yeah, maybe a little bit.
I mean, yeah, the Open helps,
around the whiteboard helps.
I mean,
the demo team last year was still a big –
um, opportunity.
I think that was really big.
I really, I really enjoyed that.
Hopefully I don't have to
get to that point this year,
but it was really a cool experience.
Yeah, we are.
We're, we're all speeds ahead games,
athlete, not demo athlete.
That's the plan.
Yeah.
Did you fill out your top 25?
Me?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I did it today.
It came this time.
You guys have to do one at
the end of each month for
the beginning of the following month?
Off-season was just kind of sporadic,
but it looks like now it's
every month now that the
Open has started.
Let's hope it's better than the last time.
The last time I was in the hospital,
so I missed submitting my ballot,
but they had people like
mal on the top 10 and people
that are not even competing
yeah there's like eight
nine people on there like
you can't even like create
a full list with like it's
it's not good yeah I had to
write in like four people personally
So see,
I and I actually this time took
pictures of my ballot so I
could actually remember the
exact order of where I put people.
Well,
and last year they released like
every media person's picks,
but he didn't do that this time around.
So he only did that one time.
Oh, OK.
Was that the end of the season?
I think it's right before the games.
That's OK.
Yeah, I think I don't know.
I think.
I think it all depends on
how busy he is and how much
he can put together.
Um, but, uh, but yeah.
Um, so mine's in, um,
I've been pretty blatant
about who I think is going
to win the games on both sides.
So that's who I went with.
So I have Emma Lawson on the
women's side and Jeff Adler on the,
on the men's side to stick
with the all Canadian podcast here.
I think those are very good picks.
So yeah, my,
my women's is a little controversial.
I'm sure it's Emma, Laura, Tia.
I actually think mine might
be the exact same.
It either is Laura, Emma, Tia,
or the same as yours.
I'll have to look at my screenshot.
There's just a lot of
unknown right now with Tia's wrist.
Yeah.
I almost moved her down
because of the wrist.
I know.
We do them every month, so... Yeah.
You know, if we find out it's okay,
I can move her back up, but... Right.
But she has to get into that e-semi,
and...
that's not going to be an
easy feat if you're not a
hundred percent.
Nope.
And it's been how long it's
been two months like that.
Like that's,
it's not just like arthritis stuff here.
Like,
I don't know what that is that she has,
but it seems like there was
a fracture or something to me.
So have you been like
following the progress stuff?
I saw one video about it, but not much.
Something about the frog
grips and the stickiness or
something like that.
When the wrist is really thick,
the wrap around the wrist.
Yeah, it's yeah, a little bit.
It's more almost like it's just grip lock.
I mean,
either they're so tacky that it's
but or it's so long that
it's getting grip lock and getting stuck.
But the way the one day when she was like,
like,
I think either at the moment or whatever,
the way she like pointed at
what was going on, it looked like.
the people that have posted
like their injuries from the grips.
So I'm like, I don't know.
I'm very curious what
actually is going on.
Well, she's been used.
She was using the bear
complex for many years.
Cause I remember I was like, Oh,
who's good at CrossFit.
Oh, they're wearing bear comics.
I'm going to order bear.
Like that's, you know,
you just look at who are
the top athletes and what
they're wearing.
She's always been wearing bear comics.
So when you switch,
like you notice those difference,
if it's hitting your wrist
a little bit different,
especially if you said it's thicker here.
So as you're doing bar muscle ups,
that might be putting
pressure somewhere different.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Colton switched to him too.
I did see that.
So, yeah, I mean,
I've heard they're like super tacky,
but maybe they're too tacky.
There's this one company that I tried.
They're like basketball material.
I don't know if that's like
the frog grips or not,
but Lex uses them now.
They're so grippy.
I never had any grips like that.
But you can't have like,
it doesn't help to have chalk on the bar.
So like I didn't want to get
used to them because I know
at comp there's going to be
chalk on the bar.
Mm-hmm.
Not that I'm like a gymnast by any means,
but I have the Element 26
chockless grips.
And for me, it just works best.
Even just doing hanging knees raises,
being a big guy,
it just gives me that
little extra grip so I can
string together more than I could before.
So I really like those.
And I don't like to chalk.
Like I don't chalk when I lift.
I don't.
So that's just me.
I do.
I like the break.
Yeah, you're saving a rest break.
I like the fun ways to break.
I can tighten those collars.
I can adjust my wrist straps, whatever.
I don't need chalk.
Lex says,
games bound for Scott and games
bound for Jamie and Carol.
Because she said, how's the gym been?
Yeah.
How's the gym been?
So this week has been much better.
I'm way less sore.
I still feel pretty weak.
And today was horrible.
What was today?
There was no rest.
So it was the ghost.
Oh, I love that one.
Not.
There's too many double unders.
Right.
Well,
it's a great workout to work on
double unders.
Because it's basically FICO and Bad Style,
row cows, burpees, double-unders,
minute rest for eight rounds.
So you're doing
double-unders under fatigue.
But my engine is so bad,
by the time I got to the double-unders,
like I was sucking air so hard.
Like it just was rough.
It's a hard workout.
Yeah.
It is, especially those last four rounds.
We program it at our gym
normally like Halloween or
at least another time in the year.
It's like our affiliate
owner's favorite workout as well.
If you want an engine workout,
it's the one.
And that's what Thursdays are at Polaris.
Every Thursday is like a
longer engine type workout.
kind of a Christie specialty
is like what we like to call it.
So, but yeah, it, it was bad, but I,
but I do feel better this week.
Like my legs aren't,
I actually put weight on my
back for back squats this week.
Um,
and I wasn't as sore as air squats a
week before.
That's good.
So it was only 95 pounds.
And it's funny because, um,
Like,
I logged it in Wattify that I checked
my ego, and Christy actually commented.
Because I have not seen
Christy since I've been back.
Because she's been off to Houston,
doing all that kind of stuff.
But she actually gave me a
big thumbs up for checking my ego.
And that's just where I am right now.
Nothing wrong with that.
And just got to get stronger.
Just consistency,
and then it starts going up.
Yeah.
Like again,
big improvement from last week
to this week.
I'm just got to stay the course.
Listen to my body.
The one thing I found that I
could not do is lay on my
back under fatigue.
That's still, it's not real good for me.
What happens?
I just can't breathe.
Okay.
So like we did bench press
on Monday as part of the workout.
And when I laid back on the
bench under fatigue, could not breathe.
warmup could rip out bench press.
So it, I don't know.
Cause that's what,
like that's what a fib
affected the most was my lungs.
And there was like a backup
of blood in the heart and lungs.
So I think that just hasn't
fully flushed out yet, but, but I just,
so I just did sitting a strict press.
So I could just keep moving,
same or similar stimulus,
and just kept moving.
So do we want to get into
the news of the week?
Yeah, let's hit it.
We've already hit the
Carolyn Fifth in the Open official.
Hooray.
Yay.
That's so cool.
Crushed it, dude.
Then we're going to talk
about Grace Walton.
And when I talk about this,
I want to talk about it in my view,
more overarching.
So Grace had a video.
It was looked at.
She was in first place going
into video submission.
CrossFit looked at it,
said in two of her muscle-up reps,
her feet rose above the bar height,
making them bad reps.
Gave her a 12-second penalty.
which dropped her from first
in the open to second in the open,
and basically costing her $5,000.
So I have a lot of thoughts about this,
but I want to open it to you guys first.
So your initial thoughts,
the video's out there.
I'm going to play it as you guys talk,
and I want to hear your reaction to that.
I like when I first watched her video,
like on the games website,
like I was normally, I just looked at,
like, I won't even watch the whole video.
I'll watch the beginning of it.
Sometimes just,
I want to see just people move.
And I was like, Oh, she moves.
Well, it looks legit.
Like it's, it's good.
Right?
Like you just kind of look.
And then I tend to always go
fast forward to the end.
And then I look at the time
to see whether like it was
an accurate finish and
whether they tried to sneak
in a second or something.
I don't know.
Like, that's just my,
my tendency.
So when I first watched the video,
I did notice right away
that the feet were up on the last rep.
And then I fast forwarded again.
I was like, Oh,
let me see how it is under like fatigue,
whether it changed
throughout the workout.
And I, like,
I noticed the last three of
the last four reps were high,
but I didn't have like a
huge problem because I was like, Oh,
she's legit.
Like she's posted all her videos.
Like she moves very well.
She's fit everything.
Um,
It could be the angle.
It does look above the bar,
definitely from what I see.
But it's just unfortunate
because if you look at her original score,
like it was like 930 or
something like that.
And if they're not looking at,
so now it's like a 942 and
there's a bunch of people
in that like 930 range, like maybe like,
I don't know, seven to 10.
But if they're not looking
at those videos as well,
that's the issue because
maybe some of those people
would have their feet up a
little bit and then she can
still stay at in first place.
Right.
Like if you're only looking at those ones.
Yeah.
It's just, it's unfortunate for her.
It's kind of like,
what's this like that one, right.
That's above.
That's good.
The one foot maybe.
And then wait, not that one.
Yeah, that one was.
Yeah.
And I think she has two more
left or three more left.
So that one's the one that I
would say is a no rep.
Just looking, I mean,
from that angle anyways.
This one's good.
Oh,
it's it's above the line of that angle.
That was her over.
Yep.
Like it, but again,
my perspective was like, oh,
she moves well.
Like I'm, I was fine with it.
Cause I'm like, she's legit.
Like she's fit.
Like I had no problem with her winning.
Like I was like, I was like,
it's not like there was that many reps.
It was like three reps.
And I was like, eh, that was my,
that was my initial reaction.
I was like, eh, okay.
Like, it's not, it wasn't like that bad.
Like it's like every bar
muscle up was a glide.
That was right.
I threw Lex's comment up
there because you were saying that,
Carolyn, through your argument.
So I just was putting it up
there as additional in your favor.
Jamie, any comments?
I mean, I just, for one,
I don't know why they
changed the wording in the
rule this year.
And I think that's getting a lot of talk.
Like,
so is it no longer any part of the
foot of any,
even one foot can't rise
above the bar anymore?
Like,
that would have been pretty clear
last year.
Like,
the way it was worded last year was
if her toe would have...
One toe would have popped
up in front of... Higher than the bar,
it's a no rep.
And this one is, like, kind of subjective.
They didn't do themselves
any favor with the picture.
Like, is it both feet and both heels?
The entire foot?
No idea.
I...
I just going off of history
of the bar muscle up,
like know what I think, but I, I mean,
I feel like there's a little bit of, um,
room for dispute there on
her behalf because they
went and changed the rule
and showed a picture that I
don't know if they can
definitively say that both
of her feet were heels over the bar.
So I think that was maybe
not in their best interest.
Um,
And Ken's comment here is hilarious.
I hear they give less of a
penalty for not submitting a video.
It's, it is so, it is so unfair.
Like the tutor getting his huge penalty.
And you know, darn well,
there are people moving way
worse than this that are
not getting any type of repercussion.
So it's like,
I totally agree with Carolyn.
Like it wasn't egregious.
It wasn't throughout her whole workout.
Like I, we watched,
I watched this original and I was like,
yeah, she moves pretty well.
And yeah,
there's a couple there that are like
little bit questionable, but man,
I saw so many, you know, like you,
you as a CrossFitter see it,
you see those glide kips and you're like,
well,
that's clearly all that person can do.
And that's how they're
getting all these reps.
Um, if she would have had an eight,
10 score,
it would have been probably like,
even like Carolyn and I
probably would both be like, man,
I don't know, but it wasn't like this,
like top five in the world score.
Like she didn't, I don't know.
My problem with it is the angle.
Yeah.
Right.
I mean,
The angle is the camera is
below the bar with an up angle to her.
So if you're close,
it's going to look like
it's over because the depth
of field will have the foot
larger than the bar.
Therefore,
it looks like it's going to be over.
And from that distance,
there's no way to know.
so for crossfit to make
these definitive penalties
against her and tutor and
again let the video the
person that didn't even
submit a video win her
event it just seems like
they're they're picking who
they want to receive the penalty
Yeah.
And like Jamie said, with the feet,
like they had the same type
of wording last year with the V-ups,
right?
It was like, wasn't it feet?
And it was like, what part of the foot?
Like the toes were all of a
sudden the feet.
So on the bar muscle,
are we still considering
that the same thing as the
last year's V-up work?
I mean, the toes are part of the feet.
I've always known the feet,
the toes cannot go above the bar.
That's how I judge people as well.
And then you have to kind of
give benefit of the doubt
technically to a certified
judge that is right there
at that angle watching that.
Look where he's standing.
right?
Like he's on the side.
He is literally.
So you have,
you have to kind of give
benefit of the doubt.
If it's an unsure angle,
he is literally holding onto the bar,
the rig to look right where
he needs to look.
And we have Andrew Stan,
who is a high end judge.
Like it, it is close, but again, he's,
he agrees with me,
the angle and the distance.
I don't think you call them
no reps because,
But CrossFit does say, if in doubt,
you no rep them.
Right.
But they say that in this case,
but they didn't... There
were so many videos that
didn't even get looked at.
It could have affected who won the Open.
Like,
even if she got that 12-second penalty,
she could have still won
had they continued down.
Between her score and her new score,
if they looked at any of
those girls' videos...
And those girls get bumped out?
What does she need for points?
Not that many points, right?
That she needed to... Four or something?
Yeah,
so she needed four people to get
penalties.
Well,
she would have lost the tiebreaker
to... Okay, so five.
So five points that she would have needed.
Yeah.
And I think it was Lex that said in here,
conspiracy theory,
CrossFit didn't want her to
win because she doesn't go
to an affiliate.
That does make sense, right?
It's like,
go to an affiliate where you get
your certified judge.
I mean,
you can still have a certified
judge if you're not an affiliate,
but... Yeah,
I kind of even like that worse.
That's encouraging, the no video.
I don't love that.
It's always been one of my
biggest things with one of
my beefs with the open and
CrossFit and just show up
at an affiliate and
any someone's in a validate your score.
Like that person did not watch my video.
Like,
I almost feel like the judge that
judged you needs a
secondary approval link.
Then the,
the affiliate manager maybe can
go through those.
Maybe they have the sheets, but like,
I want to know if I judged
you that you didn't write
1121 instead of 10, instead of 1221.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
So like if I if you're
putting me as a judge,
I want to be able to click
off on it and be like, yup,
I did judge that.
And that was their time.
And that way you're not
getting people just putting
any judge down.
And then it's just because
just to say that the
affiliate manager is like
they are not there watching
every single person go.
And I bet you most of them
don't keep their sheet,
everyone's sheet and like
confirm that what the time
that they entered was correct.
Because there's a ton on
there that have tie break
times that are inconceivable.
Did the affiliate manager decline those?
No, they just went through and approved.
They went check, check, check, check,
check, check all in.
I think that's a good point though, Jamie,
where it's like, you can judge someone,
you can write your judge,
like you can sign the scorecard,
but that person's still
writing in their score.
in the CrossFit Games
website and you don't know
whether they made a mistake
and then they have your name as a judge,
but they could shave off a
few seconds or whatever.
You have no idea.
So having that,
you would get a
notification of all the
people you judged and then
you would be like, yes, yes, yes, yes,
or something.
Could be.
I mean, theoretically,
that's the two pieces of the sheet,
right?
The affiliate manager gets
the one that the judge filled out.
and goes right to the
affiliate manager to be able to compare,
that's trusting the
affiliate manager that
they're going to actually look.
There's just so much trust
going on in these online
competitions in general.
Nick makes a great point.
I like to pretend it's pro sports.
The ref said they're good reps,
not enough video evidence
to overturn the call, case closed.
And I like that too.
Yeah.
In conjunction with that,
if you go to the leaderboard right now,
are all three videos of all
five of those athletes visible?
Because if I was Grace,
I would want to see all my
competitors' videos as well.
Yeah, for sure.
But you're putting me on blast,
and I don't even get to see
anything else?
No.
everyone all if like those
videos should all just go
public so like when I do
like uh rogue challenges
for instance so you can
like hide your video at
first when you first submit
yeah and then every time
they'll always post the
videos of the top five
people yeah for all the
challenges so like you
could have put it private
but now it's now it's up
there if you're in the top
I like that that's a good idea
The other thing I think that
would be a step in the
right direction is if
you're going to penalize someone,
then you make the video
public and you say,
we're penalizing them for reps 33 and 28.
Yep.
608.
It had an O rep for this.
Arbitrary two.
And now you go figure it out.
And like with Tudor,
it was just consistent, consistent,
not doing it what the hell
does that mean yeah and we
never even saw his video to
even know what it even
looked like right or did we
see it somewhere I i don't
I never saw him doing it
they just gave him like a a
huge penalty a 20 percent
decrease in his score and
we never even saw to what
angle did he have
Lex says, glad Kip's are slower.
This is a dumb penalty anyways.
She's not shortening the rep
to cheat and be faster.
But in under speed,
it does give her a bigger boost.
It does.
She would have had to come down.
She maybe would have failed
that rep had she not
brought her feet that high.
I'm not saying the penalty
isn't a correct penalty for that
I don't know if she should
have gotten it per se in this instance,
but like, I do think,
I do think they need to be
stricter with the glide kips either.
Like they need to either
figure out if they want to
just allow them to
and this kind of goes back with the,
like the V ups or like
certain movements where it's like,
we're not critiquing how
you're doing the movement.
We're just, are you getting from, are you,
if you do a snatch,
are you getting from the
ground to overhead?
Do we allow this?
Cause they sure do.
And 55 plus go watch any
older person snatch.
So like,
if you aren't critiquing the movement,
then is it just get from
point A to point B,
then maybe we need to like
reconsider how we're,
And this is what sucks to my opinion,
the rules there,
because it's obvious Gracie
was not trying to cheat the system.
No, if she did it illegally,
it was inadvertent.
And just the course of her
trying to complete the workout.
But you do have those people
out there that will glide,
get the hell out of these
to get all of their muscle ups, right?
Yes.
You don't want them
affecting the leaderboard.
Right.
Right.
But then we get to that line of like,
is it good?
Is it bad?
And right when you're right at that line,
it's,
It makes it rough,
and that's where CrossFit
has been so behind the
curtain about their
decisions and what they do
that it just leads you to
believe they're not doing
it in the best interest of the athletes.
Agreed.
I mean, yeah,
I think it needs to be more –
more clear cut.
They need to be more
transparent if they want it
to trickle down the correct way.
Um, and then they aren't.
Yeah.
I'm just asking for transparency.
Just tell me what reps.
You only had 10 people to look at.
You could tell me what reps you don't.
Because you know like Boz is
sitting there going,
check mark on that one, X on this one.
And he could tell you 33 and 28.
They would have had to have
had multiple judges overturn that.
They're not just going to go
off one judge.
Well, do we know that?
Is that the rule?
Normally, yeah.
I would say, yeah.
I think they said that
multiple judges would review.
Dave Eubanks, I think,
on a podcast before said
that one person will review it,
then it goes to the team
where then they kind of
make a decision or something like that.
So I know that's at his
quarterfinals and on.
Because that's when the team
that they've hired starts
at quarterfinals.
then that team is like the
first level they make
recommendations up then the
next level finishes them
off none of that has been
said for the open there is
no team reviewing this
initially other than the
main crossfit hq I would
assume more than one person
looked at it and they
agreed I mean I i can't
imagine one person made
this decision I was like nope
I mean, I would,
if I was going to make that final call,
I'd be like, hey, anyone else agree,
disagree?
Wadzami here says, if we're trusting Emily,
Klaus, Judge, why not Gracie's?
Well, that goes, and Lex says,
because Grace is not at an affiliate.
So we just,
we give all trust to affiliates.
We're trusting Emily.
We don't care about Emily's
because she now just
doesn't get the money.
These ones were for money.
She could have maybe kept her first place,
but then just doesn't get money.
All right.
If she doesn't send her video.
As long as CrossFit exists,
we'll have these questions.
Just like in the NFL,
everybody rips the referees.
I think it happened,
but wasn't everybody upset
the other night at the
officiating and the Iowa game, Carolyn?
That Caitlin got some calls?
35 or something like 30 to
like five free throws or something.
Yeah, it was definitely one way.
So we want to talk about
Carolyn on Beyond the Whiteboard.
Not Beyond the Whiteboard.
Around the Whiteboard.
Sponsored by Beyond the Whiteboard.
so what was the experience like?
Any, when, when you get in there,
are you done?
Is anything done ahead of
time or do we see,
I got the questions the day before, like,
um, Peter sent them to me on my Instagram,
Pedro for how you guys, his name's Peter,
but, um, he sent the questions,
Peter for a lot longer, um, on Instagram.
So then I looked over them,
Lex and I had discussions
about each question, um,
on what points we thought were important.
And then I had like backup
stuff in case things were already taken,
essentially.
It was good.
It was, I mean,
Lex was like putting
pressure on me to make sure
that I don't get muted
because I can ramble sometimes.
Well, she's like,
you need to watch the clock
and not talk for too much
and get your points across.
So I tried doing that.
And then I was on time for
all of my one minutes.
And then even the 20 seconds,
I never got muted.
So my opinion for the
quality of answers given you by far,
weren't stuck to the
question and answered the
question the best.
I thought so too,
but Lex told me I was too boring.
She goes, you're too boring.
Colton's funny.
So he's going to get some points.
So I understood her point of view.
But I did think my questions
or my answers had more material,
but Lex just wants to, what'd she say?
Add some personality.
No,
I think her exact words were probably I
was boring.
She's like,
you need to swear or something.
Yeah, that's not genuine for everybody.
I liked listening to you.
I don't need to hear Colton
say that that's a terrible question.
I don't know.
It's not a...
I guess what's the point of his show?
Are we actually discussing
the topics and giving
answers or are we just
trying to be snarky?
Most of the questions were kind of,
there wasn't many like two sides, right?
There are kind of obvious answers.
So I think that's why we
didn't have as much kind of
like banter because you
couldn't really be like, no,
I disagree with that.
I actually think this, right?
If you had some of the questions that were
a little bit more
controversial or just more
opinionated on two sides,
it would have been more interesting.
Even in the rebuttals in the 20 seconds,
you could have been
disagreeing a little bit more.
But when I looked at the questions,
I thought there was clear,
obvious answers to me anyways.
And it seemed like the other two,
Ant and Colton, thought so as well.
Yeah.
It's,
it's gotta be tough because we're not
in the most exciting time of the season,
right?
Like you guys got the draw
in between the open and quarters.
There's not a whole lot to talk about.
And when you have three athletes on,
I don't think affiliate
type questions are the best
questions to ask.
No, and that's what I had told Lex.
I was like,
I don't think they'll ask
anything about affiliates
because I don't think, I mean,
but Anson affiliate owner, he said.
I mean, technically,
so am I. It's for the views.
This is Lex again.
Carolyn answers were the
best Colton tied because he
was sassy with pizzazz.
It's true.
He could have won just with
his last answer.
Not even answer,
but his last comment on Max
and Training Think Tub and
all that stuff.
I have that pulled up.
Oh, my gosh.
Because I don't know if you guys saw,
but from that,
there's now a one-on-one
competition happening in a week or so.
Did you see that Max changed
his profile bio on Instagram also?
I did not.
You have to go to his
profile as well and look at
the bio that he put on his account.
Okay.
I'll do that after we play
Colton's response.
It's 30 seconds.
Yeah.
I have a question.
I have a question for you.
Okay.
Are you having Max Ohag on tomorrow?
Yes.
Why?
Why?
why max el hag over the
training think tub those
guys they're an abomination
to the sport max el hag is
an absolute menace they
have their own podcast the
corpus anus podcast and I
heard them say the most
ridiculous things like uh
like the jake german is the
the best in the burpees at
crossfit I just can't
believe he was hit they me
next to him in a burpee workout
I would end this man's life.
They should pray that he
never has that fate.
This is just 30 seconds.
Is this what you were going
to use your 30 seconds for?
Is this your plan?
My plan was actually to
concede my final minute and
just use the whole minute
to say it because I didn't
think I was going to win.
Beautiful.
When I first met Colton,
we did his first ever podcast.
We couldn't get him to say three words.
he's bought into this um to
this new not new person
maybe maybe it's been his
personality the whole time
or or he's you know it's
working for his image and
sponsorships and stuff like
that and he's just kind of
running with it and I think
that's it's helping his
brand like he's that's how
he's branding himself it's
great well and he did he
does make a point like in
one of his answers like the
key to this whole thing is
being authentic
Like,
don't just clam up and answer what
you think people want to
hear when you do interviews.
Be authentic.
And apparently it's working for him.
Like,
he's getting more sponsors than many
of the top 10 athletes.
He's become a legend with
his remarks and his background story.
You know, the pig farmer from Iowa.
And he wins workouts.
Yeah.
So from this, um, uh, let me, let me go to,
so Jake Berman actually
posted on Instagram Colton
set up for bar facing burpees,
which had like a two and a
half change plate on each
side of the bar.
I did see that.
And so that went back and forth.
And now, I think it's next week.
Next Wednesday.
Yeah.
Barbell spin is going to air.
100 burpees.
100 burpees for time.
Bar facing.
Yes.
Between Colton Mertens and Jake Berman.
We need more of this.
We need as much of this as
people will put out.
It's only going to help the
athletes get more exposure.
And it entertains us all.
You know,
Wads all made a great idea with Fit Wars.
We just got to keep it going.
And we've seen with Taylor
versus the world and now this,
like people get excited over this.
Reps on reps or whatever
it's called or something
that's coming up.
Reps ahead.
Reps ahead.
That's another type of
one-on-one matchup stuff.
You got to go, Scott, to Max's Instagram.
I don't know if it's still there.
I'm heading there.
I have to see.
I think it was there earlier.
I like when people lean into stuff.
He leaned into it.
Oh, he switched it.
Okay.
Okay, but if you go to his story,
go to his story.
He had put it on his story.
Why isn't... Is AL right?
Max AL.
EL.
Max space EL.
All together for his Instagram.
Yeah.
Okay, I got it.
It would be on his story.
Because he switched his,
he re-switched his bio.
Okay.
I don't know if you can zoom in.
Yeah.
Coach fitness number one menace,
brewing people in the think
tank tub like Jake Berman
who have the fastest burpees in the game.
That's great.
All of this is brilliant.
Brilliant to grow the sport.
The trash talking, the back and forth.
Now we're going to have it
out on the floor.
I think it's going to be great.
Predictions?
I think Colton's going to win.
Oh, Colton.
I think it's going to be close, though.
Jake is extremely fast,
but he's no Colton.
Colton's... There's only one.
There's no one beating him in that stuff.
Like, he's literally the best.
He's the best,
and he's the guy that's
willing to die for the reps.
It's funny because my mom's
in the background,
send down the odd time.
She'll be like, yeah, he's the best.
And like chimes in a little
bit on some of the responses.
My mom's into this chat right now.
Awesome.
So super stoked about that.
Um, and, uh, yeah,
so super happy about that.
Next up on the agenda, uh,
did everybody get a chance
to see the Danielle Brandon documentary?
Sure did.
thoughts it was good yeah I
loved it I i don't know
much about her background
um so I got to I was very
impressed just like
athletically like what she
did growing up and how
sports was her coping
mechanism for the crazy
stuff that was going on at
home and just to see how
she turned out like it just
it gives you a different perspective on,
um, other people's lives.
And like, it's just, yeah, just,
you got to see a side of her that like,
cause I,
I know her like when I compete
against her, but I don't know her.
Right.
So, um, I like, I really enjoyed it.
It was really, really good.
I, while watching it, like I was,
I was very curious to hear her background,
um, like how she grew up and stuff,
but I,
When Savan called Taylor and
Taylor commented that there
was one thing that soured it for him,
I immediately like were on
the couch and I was like,
guarantee he says Cooper Marsh.
Taylor was like Cooper Marsh
when he said the flipping the birds.
I had the exact same reaction watching it.
And that like when I finished,
I was just like.
The whole like not the whole thing,
but like it feels a bit scripted.
And the big thing is like she's genuine.
And even Dave says that like
you just need to be genuine.
But like I have this other
like niggling question, like,
is it a little bit scripted?
Like.
I mean, to me, it's like Cooper, like,
told her to do that.
So she did it.
And he knew exactly what
that was going to do in that situation.
Like, he's a great agent for a reason.
And he has taken her very far.
So I don't know.
Maybe that's just my, like,
the way my brain works.
But that was my immediately thought.
And when Savant called
Taylor and Taylor said that, I was like,
that was exactly how I felt watching it.
so okay so I thought the
background story was a 10
out of 10. everything about
how she grew up the stuff
she had to deal with all of
like the fbi the jails the
the the drugs the yeah the
like stealing that stuff
from her mom and disposing
of it as as a child like
the relationship with her
brother and what happened
when she had to get out of the house,
like that broke my heart.
Yeah.
All of that.
10 out of 10.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That helped her out.
They got her,
made sure she saw that she
had an opportunity to go to
college fully paid, like,
and made sure that happened.
Like the,
the family that bought her a computer,
the,
like all of that stuff was so
freaking cool.
when we get to the CrossFit stuff,
I knew most of like her journey.
Again, since I started this podcast,
we've been trying to follow
people before they were famous.
So I knew her before mayhem
when they said in the movie,
like nobody knew who she
was till after the mayhem classic,
we've been following her
for a little bit before then.
So I knew all of that stuff.
The part where it goes off
the rails for me a little
bit is the underdog story.
And I don't know if it's how
close I am with Justin that
it just irked me.
And the person who irked me was Cooper.
It wasn't Danielle.
It was him sitting off to the side saying,
they just need to have an
adult conversation.
And I'm just thinking, like,
I'm sure that was tried.
this wasn't a one time deal
that made this happen.
And, and they did kind of talk about that,
but Cooper kind of just
made it all this moot point
and they were just being immature.
So like, and I like Cooper,
like I've gotten along with Cooper a lot,
but this did nothing for me
and my viewpoint of Cooper to,
Yeah, because he just basically says,
I don't think she should
have been let go.
And that quote, Cotler, was wrong.
Lex.
But it made me sensitive towards Cotler,
though.
You can see how much Cotler
has so much passion for his athletes.
The way he supports his
athletes is amazing.
is crazy right like everyone
from the outside just sees
it it's like I i felt for
him because it kind of it
kind of made it look like
he threw her under the bus
right before the games
which I mean technically
yes right like but like she
had like kicked her out but
there's other I feel like
there's a lot left out and
we're seeing the one side a
little bit more or I mean I don't know
So that was the other thing.
Like the Mac ended and she says,
and I went back and just
was sitting by the pool and I get fired.
It was a month later that she got fired.
And there were other things
that happened in that month
for that to happen.
To glance,
gloss over it like that was just,
and there's Justin like
giving out his heart and
soul and saying how much it
hurt him and how much
affection he has for her to this day.
Like that was,
that was tough for me
because that's my friend.
And I know,
I know how he felt about her
and he talked about it all the time.
that he wanted her to win
the games and thought she
had every bit of talent to do so.
He was nonstop talking about her.
At the Mac, his passion in the stands,
everything, you're like, wow.
Not only is Danielle such a
talented person,
athlete and fit athlete but
she now has the support and
the coach and like you knew
she had a rough background
that it was almost like a
father figure from the
outside right like it was
like now she can actually
go and win the games
because she has someone
that's believing in her
when maybe she doesn't
always believe in herself
right and that's that's the
kind of like relationship
you saw from the outside
She said that in the doc herself,
that he was like a father figure.
Yeah.
So that, like,
I wasn't upset at the way
what Danielle had said.
No.
There are hurt feelings
there that I am hoping
someday the two of them can
come together and build a bridge back.
But, man, the way Cooper dealt with it,
it just upset me.
Yeah, I agree.
Well,
and Elise says it sounded like it was
either he let one athlete
go or lose multiple.
Is Cooper not an agent for
any one of those other, like,
10 athletes that were
underdogs at that time?
Because he had to have had
responses from those
coaches and athletes who
had told Kotler they were
going to pull out.
And she was kind of already
on the outs of that, like, leaving that –
Camp?
Well, moving.
Moving, so not being there.
If you remember the next season,
she had hurt her back.
Yes.
Couldn't open.
And I think she had already
moved to... And she was getting married.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So he didn't have any direct
contact with... I mean,
who all was there?
annika kyra um alex yeah
delugos um there was I mean
there was a lot probably
like started yeah I'm sure
it was the girls more than
anything but you like at
some point cooper's got to
take a business look at
that from kotler's side and be like
I mean, yeah, like he can't lose the other,
even like she might be
great and she might be
great for the sport and your brand.
But like, if,
if it's going to stop anyone
else from coming there,
how great in the end is it going to be?
And you would think as a, like,
I under like,
and I understand he like
really wants to have her back.
Like,
I'm glad she has someone in her life
still that's like continues
to support her the way he seems to be.
But yeah,
If she watches that back and
can't see the love from Justin still,
that's sad.
I think she will as well.
If you watch the Lauren
interview with Danielle,
I would say it's reciprocated from her.
Mm-hmm.
You could see the emotional.
The whole time she was at Brute,
she was telling them,
you don't care about me like Cutler did.
You don't.
And she said that flat out
in that other interview.
Hmm.
that she missed the way she
was coached by Kotler.
And how he believed in her.
Nobody believed in me like he did.
She kept saying that.
And so you can tell on both ends,
they still love each other
in a way that none of us will ever know,
like Coach Athlete.
And I'm hoping at some point in time,
they can come to a reconciliation.
Yeah.
That's what that documentary
gave me hope for in that
underdogs aspect.
Well, she's clear.
I mean, she's,
she's clearly hurting and
like has always felt like
she's cast aside and not wanted.
And like that, I'm,
that did nothing for her.
I'm sure like that just
piled on top of everything
else that bad that's
happened throughout her life.
And I felt for her in that instance,
but at some point you also
need to look at your actions,
mannerisms and how you
treat other people and like
do some critical thinking there too.
Like.
Yeah.
i agree it was so overall I
give the I give the entire
documentary probably an
eight with the background
stuff a 10 the crossfit
stuff like a seven six and
a half six um and then
together like an eight yeah
I agree yeah I liked it I
just thought like the
timing of it was
interesting it's like
middle of the season like I don't
like uh wasn't sure on the
timing of it and then they
didn't go much into like
the after like brew like a
little bit with dallin but
kind of like where she is
now by name I agreed no
mention of of matt no there
was no there was no mention
of that not once it was
dallin yeah I thought that
was strange so I don't know
what's going on there um
maybe that's the sequel
But for timing-wise,
and I was watching Spin last night,
it makes perfect sense to me.
This is the boring time of
the season with no good content.
If you can put out good content now,
people will flock to it.
And when I checked when I
woke up this morning,
it had like 38,000 views already.
And I'm sure it's piled them on today.
Yeah,
and I guess now people will be
rooting for her even more so.
I mean,
she's probably one of the most
popular athletes anyways,
but I'm sure they're behind
her even more and have a
better understanding.
I hope the reason behind it
is what she said,
hoping that other people
that were in my situation
will see this and draw
inspiration from it.
But when you learn what she
went through and kept her grades up,
and got a full ride
scholarship like that blows
me away so yeah and I agree
with elise it was probably
filmed a while ago they
were together at the games
and they have a ton of
games coverage they were
good together at semis
What do you mean?
Brute?
I'm talking timing wise.
Oh yeah.
Like it,
it just was probably was filmed
last season.
They edited it through the fall.
Editing takes a long time.
Trust me.
Oh, well, I'm just,
she said this seemed to end
around the time she would
have gotten with Matt.
And I don't necessarily agree with that.
Like,
I think there would have been plenty of,
she just,
I would say she clearly doesn't
want any part of her,
love life in which I mean
makes sense because it's
like if you're gonna do a
documentary I don't think
that I would want like
especially if you're not
with that person anymore
like you don't want to be
remembering like that's I
want it to be a documentary
that you can like look at
for the rest of your life
and go back to it I don't
know and she doesn't want
that part and if it's no
longer relevant I guess yeah
All right, well, let's move on.
We're,
we're at the hour mark where you
need to land this plane.
So I wanted to talk quickly
about my coach owner of my gym,
going to Houston,
kicking ass and taking names.
christy o'connell goes to
houston does a high rocks
we all said it on this show
before she went she was
going to crush it not only
did she crush it she had
one of like the the 62nd
fastest time ever at a high
rocks event I think and her
first ever one
And like she said that like
she didn't even know she
didn't even know like the
order of the stuff.
She didn't even know like
where to go for transitions.
Like if she actually like
like this was like her test,
her first full test run of
what the hell this thing is about.
Like you're you're shaving a
lot of seconds if you
actually know where you're
going and how the routes are, you know.
Like she can only go up, I think,
from here.
In an hour and four minutes
and some change.
The fastest in the world, I think,
is 58 minutes.
Yeah, that girl's a beast.
So you're only talking like,
and that's of all time.
Not this year.
That is of all time.
And she was a former CrossFitter too.
Michelle Weeks, right?
Lauren Weeks.
Lauren Weeks.
And that was her first one.
You know she's shaving time off of it.
She didn't even know how to
work the automated wall ball counter.
I know.
Did you hear that?
Yeah, she was over.
She threw the ball above the counter thing,
so she was getting no rep for a while.
I didn't know that was there,
so I'm glad she pointed
that out because I would do
the exact same thing.
So, yeah.
So she didn't know any of
that stuff going in.
You got to think,
she takes a couple minutes
off just knowing what she's doing.
Mm-hmm.
So yeah, I'm anxious.
She's one of the best runners, if not,
you know,
top runner that we've had in
CrossFit consistently,
basically a top 10 athlete at the games.
Like she's always been one
of my favorites to follow.
I just, I think that she's super talented.
What I thought was cool in the,
in her little mini documentary of it is,
uh,
these high rocks athletes coming over
wanting their picture with him,
that her saying that you're
an inspiration because
you're shorter athlete.
And I look up to you because I,
I can relate to you.
I don't know how many people
have told me on the road, tell Christie,
she's an inspiration.
I'm a shorter athlete and
she's my favorite because of that.
Like a hundred people have told me that.
Yeah.
So super cool.
Affiliate Town Hall today
announced some stuff about
the quarterfinals.
Sure did.
No floor plans will be
released until the workouts are released.
Yep.
And there will be four workouts.
Spin did point out in his
article that does not say
only four scored events.
It only says four workouts.
Correct.
So thoughts on that.
And what I didn't know,
and maybe this was public
knowledge before,
but I saw that there was
just the two submission windows,
Saturday and Monday.
I fully expected it to be the like Friday,
Saturday window.
or Saturday, Sunday, Monday,
like it has been in the past,
like a 2-2-1 thing.
But with only the four workouts,
I guess it sort of makes sense.
I'm shocked there's only four workouts,
to be honest.
Even if there's two two-parters,
I'm still shocked.
With that long of a window,
it almost just gives too much time.
Agreed.
That's what I've liked about
the five workout, six scores type thing.
Like in four days, like good luck.
If you redo one of those,
cause you're going to be hurting and like,
you gotta be smart about it.
Like, yeah, I don't want that.
I want it to be,
I want it to be like an
in-person comp as much as possible.
Here's your, here's your 24 hours.
Here's the code,
do the workouts and get in, submit it.
And then I'll give you the
code for the next one.
Cause you can't do it before
till I give you the code.
Like I want it to be,
I want you and I to do
workout one and two.
on day one together not you
get in workout three and
because that was your
weakest and then maybe you
beat me at two because you
were able to strategize
something because you're in
europe and you have 12
extra hours or something
before you go to bed like I
don't want any of that I
want here's workout one do
it here's workout two do it
here's workout three do it
just like a comp would be
everyone does in the same order
One time.
The only thing with that is
because they're extending it at 25%,
you have to allow people
that have jobs during the week or weekend,
whatever, to plan accordingly.
If it's one workout, they do a class.
Yeah.
Right.
I'm tired of that.
Because this is really like, this is,
qualifying for the semis is
going to be really freaking hard.
Very hard.
And at this point,
the elite athletes have to
have a fair competition
that is evenly spread out
over different modalities,
different aspects.
There's going to be a max
lift that's going to count for 20%.
There's going to be a part
two that's going to be a
max lift with 25% of the
people that are like not
fatigued going into the max lift.
And then they're going to
pull up big numbers.
And if it's a bad lift for you,
good luck making that top 40.
Exactly.
Like there better be minimum
work requirement.
There better be – it better be –
Like six rounds for time in this time.
If you finish the work, you get this,
like you can't,
I don't feel like it can be
like the quarter, the,
our semifinals workout last
year that was started with
hands while facing handstand pushups.
And there were people who did zero.
who got to get a lift in and
beat me out on the
leaderboard and pushed me down.
Like that kind of stuff.
When you have 25,
you have people who we have
no idea if they got one bar muscle,
probably barely no skills.
They're just going to come in and finally,
John Young finally gets his
barbell and lifts something
so heavy without
necessarily having the fitness to,
which is the bottom of the pyramid.
Let's make sure you have that first.
Like,
are we going to even going to get
another workout, like workout three,
like to make sure people
have the fitness.
I mean, you clearly need that workout,
a very similar workout
again to make sure like
someone like Brooke or Tia
don't get through if they
aren't healthy enough to get through.
Like we can't, you can't be like, well,
we already tested that.
People got through on that.
That baby shouldn't get through.
I'll take Jamie doesn't want
broker T to make it into semis.
I, I listen, I hope they're,
I hope they're recovered by then.
I just don't want anyone to
be able to limp in, like,
because I'm just giving you
shit because another hot
take from coach crispy cream.
HQ has never had to program
a more important set of
tests ever more important
than any open semis or games prior.
The window for elite
athletes is so freaking small.
And the workouts are the
same from 16 to 54.
Correct.
Which is crazy.
And then Dave has said that
it's going to be like,
everyone can start them, right?
Like you can start them.
So obviously like, like a max lift,
if it's a max lift,
like everyone can start that.
And then you're just going
to your own capacity versus a lot like,
and then do they have like,
rope climbs and GHDs and stuff.
Cause like 25%,
like there's a lot of gyms
don't have 15 foot ceilings,
like big warehouses.
Yeah.
They, they do outside of big cities,
but if you're in a big city,
if you're in New York,
if you're in Chicago and stuff,
and you're just like
smaller affiliate with like downtown,
like you don't have 15 foot ceilings, um,
in certain parts of the country, GHDs,
like how many do gyms have?
Like if you're Mayhem,
you have like 50 of them,
but most gyms have what,
like one to four or five, um,
And you got a bunch of
people needing to do the workouts.
Do they include that?
Or maybe now they don't include that.
ACR heard a rumor that Jamie
doesn't like Tia or Brooke.
After a deep dive has
discovered because they're not Canadian.
I've got no rebuttal.
It may be true.
Coach Krispy Kreme back in the comments.
I think
I think of this quarter as
in the context of the
precedence it will set and
the impact it will have on
the majority of the
competitive CrossFit community.
Yeah.
It's going to be really telling on, like,
if there is a lift,
it is going to push the
entire space into heavier, stronger.
And they, like, really need to decide,
does the base of the
pyramid mean a little bit more or does...
Are they just going to push strength?
Jamie,
you've been awarded a point from Chris.
Oh, thanks.
Carolyn's done with the points.
I was going to say something
and I forgot my... No, I think Tristan...
has made an excellent point.
And he said it way better
than I could ever say it.
This round of this year's
season is so freaking critical.
And I don't think people understand that.
I don't know if they care
about the 40th athlete.
I totally agree.
Like look at the cuts at the games.
I mean,
I was at dinner with Dave and I
told him that I didn't like
the cuts like last year
when I was on the demo team and like,
they don't like the top
people are still going to
rise to the top.
And at the end of the day,
like if you're making it 40th,
like in their mind,
like you're probably not
making it to the games anyways.
Like,
and those athletes are very dependent
on workouts, which is like everyone minus,
you know,
five people per region maybe
that can go on any workout,
but I don't know.
I think Taylor made a great
point today on shut up and scribble.
CrossFit only cares about the top five.
Yes.
If the top five get the whole way through,
if Brent, Pat, Roman, Ricky,
and Jeff all make it through,
they're happy.
And they could care less about the,
however, the rest fall.
Yeah.
They care that Tia, Laura, Emma,
probably Ariel now, and Alex make it in,
and the rest they could care less.
I hope not.
I feel like they're, I mean,
they know that this, they know, right,
that this is important.
They know, right,
that they need to program like,
pretty good workouts now for
top 40 like I hope that
they're taking it like
seriously and really
thinking about the
combination of movements
and how many workouts and
scored events like the more
the better the more the
more precise it's going to
be for the field like four
events I if there's only
four events that's
That sucks.
There won't be.
There's no way.
The strong guy talk.
I laugh every time the
complaints about the lifts come in.
You always have to lift with
a high heart rate.
It really drops your numbers.
But that elevated heart rate
means it's all metabolic condition.
And he ran out of space.
So he finished it.
But we have not tested strength at all.
Just take it out of the
pyramid if we aren't testing it.
But we don't need to be the strongest.
We need to be strong enough.
And you could test strength
under like muscular fatigue.
Say like basically last year
at the end of the open,
it was that wall facing or sorry,
wall walks, snatch,
double unders maybe were in there.
Was there a dumb one?
Yeah.
And it was like, push up.
Yeah.
And a little bit heavier.
Like that one,
you're testing strength
under like muscular fatigue
of the shoulder.
And then you could also do
kind of like a shuttle run
and also strength under a high heart rate,
but you don't need to be
top end strength.
Like you just, you just need to be strong.
Like, like you,
you can't make it through if you're weak,
but you still have to test strength.
But we're saying to have one scored event,
be a, not a, um,
Just a lift.
Yeah, just the one movement.
I was going to say monostructural,
but that's not what I meant.
I meant single modality.
The one year they had the
burpee that you had to
complete to earn your right to lift.
Yes, exactly.
I had to redo that to be
able to get my lift in.
No,
the double dumbbell squat and the burpee.
Bar-facing burpee, double dumbbell squat.
18.2A or whatever it was.
You had to finish the 10 rounds.
If you didn't finish the 10 rounds,
you didn't get to do B. I'm
good with that.
What LDY is saying here, though,
I laugh every time the
complaints come in about the lifts.
You always have to lift with a heart rate.
That's bull crap.
There's tons of work.
We've had tons of workouts that have not.
said that you have to have a
high heart rate.
We've had four rep front squat,
completely its own workout,
single modality,
not under a high heart rate.
We've had, you could just,
you could have literally just done,
walked some shuttles and
done 10 burpee pull-ups and
sat there for the rest 10
minutes and been completely
fresh and hit a crazy thruster.
So no,
you can't tell me that you always
have to lift with a high heart rate.
Like
If they're going to test just lifting,
I just don't agree with it.
Not at this stage.
Like,
I'm totally fine with earning the lift.
But this goes...
Not only just lifting,
you can't just have a gymnastics,
just have a... We're not
just... Just a single
modality specialized
workout as one of the four
or five scored events can really skew.
I want to see just couplets
and triplets and...
yeah like once testing just
pure capacity one's got
maybe uh you know gateways
that you just kind of
progress through stuff um
you can have a great test
still like that oh yeah
like I love the workout
eight I don't know 18.3 or
whatever the ascending
squat cleans with the total
bar and the double under 19.2
You,
you had to be fit enough to get to the
final barbell.
Like those are great
workouts and some people
can't get there because
they can't keep doing the
double unders or the total bar.
And some people just can't
get past the fourth barbell
weight and great.
The top 40 are going to rise.
Like those are perfect workouts.
Or you get there and you
have no grip strength left.
So the bar just flies out of your hand.
Okay.
That's me.
That's this guy.
Yes.
Ken preach.
You want to lift heavy
switch over to Olympic or power lifting,
go to a, go to a lifting sport.
If that's what you want to do.
I think placed in the right spot,
heavy lifts are a good thing,
but I am not,
I am not a big fan of just a one,
unless you're at the games
with 12 events or 15 events,
like a one rep max on its
own is just not something I
want to see at this stage of the,
of the competition.
And like addressing, uh,
Tristan's point here,
like if you bring that one up, like,
would you want,
would you be okay with the
lift of the other events?
No, because I don't want single modalities,
uh,
all of them to be like single modality
specialist type workouts here.
We need.
Mgw like couplets triplets, um,
and really testing a broad,
like broad things.
Like, I don't,
I don't think I want like that.
Like,
I don't think that would be a good test.
It's very skewed towards specialists.
And, uh, Mr. Young, if you just want,
if you want just engine do high rocks.
I have, I am considering it completely.
I will see how this year's
quarters and semis are programmed.
And if they keep pushing just heavyweights,
I will switch over to high
rocks a hundred percent.
And Tristan was just making a point.
He was not,
that's not what he believed in.
So, all right.
So quarterfinals actually,
before we get on the air again next week,
the team quarterfinals
workouts will be released.
They come out next Wednesday to start.
Yes.
Correct.
Uh,
Regretfully,
Jamie's team did not make it
on to quarterfinals.
So we don't have an inside look at that.
But we'll be watching.
Who are you most excited to
see how they do in quarterfinals?
I don't know.
Maybe Noah's team.
I don't know enough about all the teams.
I know there's Kara's team
that's really good, Noah's,
Chandler's team.
guess I just I need to see
the field because right now
I feel like a lot of scores
are getting counted on
teams that probably aren't
doing right so like that
which which is what sucks
right because I don't know
where you guys finished
finished jamie but are I'm
sure you guys are getting
affected by rosters that
are pulling a bunch of
different scores and like
this is when we're going to
see who are the actual
members of a team um and
jamie's team was really close
Which sucks.
I'm sure you guys are in if
you take out half of the
teams in front of you that
aren't even using all their people.
If they could have got one
more male finisher on the third event,
they'd be in.
I think if we could have
gotten five more reps, we'd be in.
If he could have gotten five
more muscle-ups at the end.
Oh, well.
It is what it is.
Kenneth, no.
Mayhem still has a team.
Uh, Angelo, uh,
three members are coming
back from last year.
They, um, they substituted, uh,
what's her family?
Yeah, not her,
but they substituted the one
that was Kyra with Molly McGrady, um,
from Michigan.
Uh, and, uh, yeah, the other,
the other three are staying intact.
So the team I'm most looking
forward to has nothing to
do with the top of the leaderboard.
I just want to see them move on.
And that is the underdogs team with my,
one of my favorite people in the world,
Mitch McLoone, uh,
who is Mr. Carrie Pierce.
Uh,
he is putting together a team with
Carson Wolf and, um, gosh,
I knew them all.
And now they just went out my head.
I don't know who's on that team.
We interviewed all of them
last year for the piece.
Um, and they put that team together.
I love Mitch.
Mitch is just one of my
favorite people ever.
And I want to see how well they do.
Um, and those,
the girls are young up and
comers that a year on team
is probably going to be
really good for them.
so super stoked for them and
can't wait to see what
they're doing plus it's
going to be interesting to
see kind of what these
European teams because
there's one that got put
together right with Christoph Horvath
Jamie, I think it's Jamie Simmons.
Oh yes.
And the strong girl.
Oh my God.
What's her name?
Um, Mia.
She's so strong.
Yeah.
That's going to be good.
She's good.
No, when we see quarterfinals,
we'll only see them against their own.
Will the leaderboard just be
their own region?
Correct.
Okay.
We may need to get Holly on
like making a combined one
just for shits and giggles
to kind of see how everybody's doing.
Yeah.
I would think she'd be able
to do that fairly easily.
So anything else about the team,
any workouts?
I, I cannot predict workouts.
I know for teams at this point,
there is no worm.
So it's,
how do you figure out like
teamwork at this stage?
Probably some synchro stuff.
I'm probably,
there's going to be a relay style.
Yup.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I talked about this at the
end of the versus Haley and
I were talking about it,
about missing out and what
we might do this week.
And we said maybe when the
workouts come out,
especially if there is a
female female pairing,
maybe we'll still do it.
Um, and I'm just very curious to see him.
Cause usually there's like
one workout that is very
similar to the individuals.
Like they did the pairing of the clean,
heavy clean and jerks.
And I don't know if they're,
they're burpy backs, jump over was in it,
but like they have a one
work that like mimics the individual.
So I'm just curious to see
the team workouts and see
if we can glean anything from them.
yeah it's gonna be fun uh
we'll have lots to talk
about next week because
those workouts will be out
yeah probably see some
youtube stuff yeah and I
want to finish up with next
week we're starting a new
or this week starting a new
show easter night um and it
is if you've not seen it
out on youtube yet
The zombie Clydesdale weekend retest.
And this is going to be a
look back at the week that
was in our little bit of news,
a little bit of humor,
a little bit of stuff like that.
It's going to be fun.
It's going to be Sunday nights.
What time?
I think it's going to be
Sunday nights at 8 is what
we're shooting for.
We were doing that with
Jamie and the open workouts
and going over them.
So we're just going to keep
that time slot because
there's nothing else going
on on Sunday nights.
And it lets you look back at
the week that was before
you head into the week that
it is going to be.
Awesome.
And we've got some content
already brewing to hand out
and I can't wait to share it.
First week will probably be
a train wreck as we're
trying to figure out timing
and all that kind of stuff.
But hey, that might be fun too.
But yeah,
it's definitely going to be an
interesting take on some things.
If you follow WAD Zombie on Instagram,
you know his sense of humor.
So we like to call it a
combination of Weekend
Update from Saturday Night
Live and like The Daily
Show or John Oliver.
And then Kenneth,
I think last time I talked to him,
said Tosh 2.0 or Tosh .0.
Something like that.
So it's going to be similar to that,
but done around the CrossFit, pop culture,
and probably a little bit
of news that we seem to think is funny.
So with that, anything to add, guys,
before we get off the air?
Nope.
I riffed enough.
All right.
Well,
we will catch everybody next week on
Thursday night.
CrossFit talk for the team quarterfinals.