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Killer Quote: "How you do one thing is how you do everything." - Audrey Faust
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victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541:
Welcome back to the chemical show.
We are wrapping up our interviews
for the month of March, which had
been featuring women executives
And today's guest is really about
the big M's Money and mindset.
So I've today I've got
Audrey Fost with me.
She is a financial powerhouse Dedicated
to empowering women entrepreneurs
and women overall with clarity
and confidence in their finances a
CFO financial business coach and a
bestselling author of She Grows Rich.
helps ambitious women master their money
mindset and financial strategies to
scale their business profitably, to feel
secure in their financials and more.
And Audrey is on a mission to help
women achieve financial independence by
making smart, empowered money decisions.
While Audrey primarily works with
women entrepreneurs, in fact,
that's how I got to know Audrey.
We were in a digital class together.
I find that her messages are so critical
for corporate women as well, right?
For women in industry, we're already
going against some norms, whether
it be as an engineer, as chemist,
as leaders in the chemical industry.
There's a lot of societal biases as
you and I both know around women in.
roles around women and money and more.
when you're the primary earner, which
many women across the industry are.
Right?
I know for myself when I was at Shell
and I remember the first time a boss
said, Oh, well I just assumed your
husband was senior to you or whatever.
Oh no, you know, I've always the
financial driver in the family in many
ways from an earning power perspective.
And most women executives are as well.
And it's something that we're a little
bit blind to at times, but the reality
is we shouldn't be blind to it.
We shouldn't be uncomfortable with it.
Men make money, women make money.
We all need to master our money
and mindset more effectively.
So Audrey's going to clear the air on
some of these topics and give us some
insights that we can apply immediately.
I'm also going to be linking in the
show notes and on our website Audrey's
book, She Grows Rich, which is, will
be in the show notes and on our website
so that you can get a copy for yourself
because I think you're going to enjoy it.
Audrey, thank you for joining me today.
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
Hi, Victoria.
Thank you so much for having me.
I'm excited to be here.
Absolutely.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: too.
So your career, and you share some of this
in your, um, in your book, She Grows Rich.
I know when I read your opening chapter,
I was like, wow, you're really open
about where you came from and where
you are and how you got here today.
can you share some of that with us
in terms of just what your career and
what your mindset is and how you've
evolved to where you are today?
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
Thank you.
Um, yeah, so I grew up, in
a lower middle class family.
We didn't have a lot of money and my dad.
Was the breadwinner in that family.
My mom, was in a marriage that, um, my dad
struggled with some mental health issues.
So she felt like she was.
She's stuck in a marriage
and she couldn't get out.
she had always said to me, make
sure you can always, make sure
you can always support yourself.
And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
And
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541:
when you're a kid.
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
right.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, mom.
Okay, mom.
But you know, and as a kid, you really
don't even know what that means.
I wasn't great at school, at high school,
and, you know, I was like, at first,
and I talk more about that in my book,
I didn't go to college out of school,
I struggled in school, and at first I
was like, well, yeah, I'm just, I'm just
going to get a job, no problem, right?
Fast forward, I'm in my 20s, I got
married, I'm in my 20s, I have two kids,
and Daycare is not affordable to me.
I'm working odd jobs and
trying to make ends meet.
And my husband had started
his own business at this time.
And I found myself in a position.
I learned how to, I had took
a, done a training course and
learned how to do tax returns.
I was working for a tax prep
company and I remember doing my
own tax return and I was super.
Like I'm doing my tax return
after work and put in all the
numbers and hit, calculate.
And I got this huge refunds, right.
And I was like, wow, why am I
getting, this is a big refund.
It's not what I expected.
I'm like, Oh, maybe I did something wrong.
And I'm like, looking at all the numbers.
Well, here, what had happened
is I had qualified for what
was what they still have.
It's called a.
Earned income tax credit.
So for those people who are on the poverty
line, the government gives you money back
in addition to what you paid in, in taxes.
And that was the moment I realized
like, Oh my gosh, this is where I'm at.
I need government assistance.
That year we were, we were making 24,
000 a year trying to support a family
of, of four, two, two young children.
And that moment literally brought
me to tears and shocked me into
changing as well because I was like,
this isn't what I want for my kids.
This isn't what I want for myself.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: Yeah.
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
my mom's words.
You should be able to support yourself.
You make sure you should,
you can support yourself.
We're echoing in the background because
at that moment, I couldn't, I couldn't
even like help support the family barely.
And I definitely couldn't support myself.
Now, I was married, I was happily married,
I'm still married to the same man today,
but, having that, oh my gosh, what if
something happens, or what if I turn out
in the same situation as my mother, and
just, she was very unhappy her entire
life, struggling with my father's issues.
Like, I don't want that for myself.
Like, I grew up in that.
That's, that's not what I want.
And, yes, that was the
beginning of my story.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: you,
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
Yes.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: a lot about
transition, so that was a huge transition
cause then you, you went to school.
Is that right?
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
Yeah, not immediately, because I had to
figure out how to make some money first.
But, like, just to support the
family, I ended up working a little
bit at Vanguard, and that's where I
learned a little bit about investing.
And they had a evening shift.
But once we were able to get a little
bit more of a footing, then yes, I went
back to school and got my accounting
degree, then even went on and got my MBA.
But, I definitely had in the back of my
mind, I need to be able to support myself.
And I didn't even, like I said, when I
was young, I didn't know what that meant.
I didn't even know what that meant.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: And
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
until you
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: faced you.
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then I'm like, okay, I'm
right where she told me not to be.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: So
how did you go from that point of
kind of a crisis point, and a big
realization point to where you are today?
Because today you're, financially well
set, you support yourself, you support
your family, and you help others
master their money and their mindset.
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
yes.
So fast forward 27 years, through
my growth and work I've done.
I've done a lot of work around became
a certified neuro coach about four
years ago, four or five years ago.
I've have an accounting background.
So I've been, you know, I went
back to school for accounting.
And I've been working with small
businesses pretty much my entire career.
When I brought in the neuro
coaching, I was, I started
seeing all the mindset stuff like
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: Yeah.
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
into play.
And in my book, she grows rich.
I talk about like the mindset, how
tackling that is the first part of it.
And.
We bring all of our mindset from
our childhood, and it's kind
of funny as you, like, realize,
like, what you bring forward.
Not only did I bring the mindset of
you should be able to support yourself,
which is a good thing and shocked me.
But then there's also things I
brought with me, like, um, making
money is hard that I reprogrammed.
And, I didn't have this one, but a lot
of my clients had a judgment against
rich people, like greedy, selfish,
mean, and all of those different mindset
things, will affect your wealth and
affect how you can grow your wealth.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541:
No, I was just going to say,
I think this is a good segue in
terms of just talking about like
really like what is money mindset?
Funny as it says, how should the
people be thinking about money mindset?
Because I think often, and I think
a lot of people that listen to my
podcast would say, you know, I'm fine.
My money is fine.
Or maybe they would say no
money is not fine, right?
Because we all have different
worries along the way.
The number one thing I hear from people,
people, very successful people, very,
financially settled people is, well
I'm working to pay for insurance.
And as an entrepreneur who has been on
her own for eight years now, I'm like,
listen, that's actually not that hard.
You need to get past that mindset.
You don't need to work for the insurance.
You, my friend can afford the insurance.
So there's something else going on,
but let's talk maybe about mindset
and how do we understand our mindset
and I guess what do we do about it?
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
So you brought up a funny point
where a lot of people think they
don't have any money mindset.
I can tell you, I hear that all day long.
My money mindset is fine.
So I have a few questions that
I ask, that dive into your
subconscious and your conscious
money mindset may be completely fine.
But I have a couple of questions
that I ask, they're in my book too,
and you have to answer them within
the first, like, second, like, 2
seconds, it's like word association.
I had someone who came to one of my
workshops where I asked those questions.
She came in and she said,
oh, my money mindset's good.
I've been working on it for years.
And the, if you have a negative answer
to those questions, it means you have.
Something in your subconscious and there's
five questions that I asked that day.
I have more than that, but
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: Okay.
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
there's five in the book
and I asked those five.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: So
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541: Um,
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541:
give us the five?
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
I will, I'll give you a couple.
I'm not going to give you all five,
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: Yeah.
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
But she ended up having a negative
answer for every single one of them,
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: Wow.
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
she thought that her money mindset
was good, and she was shocked.
She was like, are you kidding me?
And I'm like, yes, because you worked
on your mindset at the conscious
level, not at the subconscious level.
And our subconscious runs 95 percent
of our thoughts every single day.
and we have 80, 000 of them.
. victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: Okay.
So you're going to put me on the spot,
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
I'm going to put you on the spot.
Don't worry, because most people have
two out of the five questions, I'm
going to ask you the most popular two,
um, that they have negative answers.
Most people have at least, at least two,
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: Okay.
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
um, that they have negative answers.
So I'll ask you the first
one is making money is.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: Fun.
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
Okay, good.
The next one is rich people are.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541:
Aspirational.
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
Okay, look at that.
You got a pretty good one.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: I would
also say, I'm going to couch that and
say that's a bit of my, maybe more my
conscious than my subconscious, because
I also think there's this aspect of
rich people are and arrogant maybe, and,
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
Well, yeah, that's so you
did think a little bit.
I did notice that.
So the trick is not to think.
And I know I put you on the
spot and we're on a podcast.
So some people don't always
like to share their negative
answers, but we'll go with that.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: to.
I would, you know what, it's, I mean,
making money, it's fun and it's hard.
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
Yeah.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: there's hard
work that goes into the process, right?
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
So let me explain.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541:
right, money doesn't grow on
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
Grow on trees.
Yeah,
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541:
looking outside my window right now.
I see a tree.
Money's not growing on that tree.
It'd be nice though.
Yeah,
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
this is where it comes in like I had
making money as hard That was one of the
ones that I had to reprogram Because I
can remember back to my childhood and my
mom used to always say we work hard for
our money and My brain interpreted that
that you have to work hard for your money
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: yeah,
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
What did that equate to?
A workaholic.
That, that's what I turned into, you
know, because I wanted a lot of money.
So I thought the only way to
get a lot of money is to work
harder and harder and harder.
So that was one of the
ones that I needed to.
Reprogram in my brain.
So yeah, so and you know, I've seen
rich rich people are greedy, rich
people are mean rich people are selfish.
And the media does an amazing
job of buying into those.
So we're seeing that, right?
We're seeing that every single day,
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: yeah.
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
because they're portraying rich
people in that way, on top of whatever
programming we got while we were younger.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: And I,
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
And,
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: Hearing
a speaker a long time ago, talking
about like how rich is too rich, right?
We all have like this view of, how
much money is a lot of money?
And the reality is how much money is
a lot of money and how much is rich is
like one notch above where you are today.
Um, right.
So I'm not rich, oh, but they're rich.
It's all relative, I think.
And to your point, I think the
media does do a good job of, of
feeding into it, at various times.
Yes.
And yet.
Money is the engine of our economy,
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
yes?
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: so we
need people that have money to spend.
In fact, there was an article
in the wall street journal.
I think it was the wall street
journal about a week or so ago.
I'm talking about how the U S economy
is really driven by top earners.
With expendable cash and
stuff and it's like, yes.
And I think to a certain
degree that is always true.
have way more disposable income
today than I did 30 years ago.
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
Yeah, of course.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: As
my earning power, as my wealth
has increased, as whatever, I'd
say that's true for most people.
On the other hand, I, you know, I talked
to my friends or my sisters and stuff.
We're like, man, teenagers today
have way more money than we
ever had and opportunities and
wishes to spend their money.
So it's all, it all becomes relative.
So how do people shift their mindset?
Can you reprogram the seven year old you?
And if not, what do you do to
make money and mindset more
engaging and more positive?
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
Well, you could definitely
reprogram the seven year old you.
You can reprogram anything
that doesn't serve you.
That's what I learned in my
neurocoaching certification.
So It takes a little bit of
time and a little bit of effort.
Not a lot.
I go through it in my book, you can.
Reprogram anything, first, what you need
to do is identify it, which is what we
were talking about with the questions.
Identify this story that's going
on and on, in your subconscious
and then you need to identify it.
Disprove it.
So for instance, when I mentioned,
you know, I making money is hard.
I had to find evidence of the opposite,
Which wasn't that hard for
me because I had a couple of
rental properties at the time.
And I was like, well, that's like
the easiest money I ever made,
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: Yeah.
Yeah.
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
out.
Like, I'm not doing any
work to do that hardly.
And I'm making money doing it.
So that's not necessarily true.
I just disproved it.
I, I'm not working at all and I'm
making money by, by doing that.
Then you just simply reprogram it by
saying making money is easy and you can.
See it, say it, write it.
And all the time for seven
weeks is what they say.
My neurocoaching program is, just
continually to see it, say it, write it.
I like to stick it on a
little post it note in my,
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: Like
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
computer.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: affirmations
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
Yes.
See, it's an affirmation.
Making money is easy.
Rich people are generous.
Rich people are kind, you know,
whatever, you know, all of that.
Reprogramming those.
And you could do it with
anything, not just money.
Any kind, any belief that you find that's
been put in there, you can reprogram it.
But it does take up time because
think about it, however old you
are, those pathways in your brain,
they're called neuropathways.
You know, it's like the
longer you walk on that track,
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: yeah,
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
embedded it gets, so It's going
to take longer to reprogram it.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: so I worry
sometimes Audrey, so I, you know, I hear
these things and I think, you know, is.
The shift from making money
that's hard, or money doesn't
grow on trees, or whatever.
Quite honestly, I worry that
I've ruined my kids at times.
Um,
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
same
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541:
because, as we all have.
But for me it's this aspect of, Money,
you know, I think there's this whole
idea of believing in abundance and
having a growth mindset, but that doesn't
mean it's about everything, right?
So last summer took our family to France
and to Switzerland and had a great right?
Wonderful vacation.
Everybody was thrilled.
My kids were thrilled, and there
were a few things along the way like
this one, you know, we were going
out to dinner at the hotel one night
because that was the closest place.
I'm like, mom, have you
seen the menu prices?
I'm like, yeah, it's fine.
in that moment, was fine to pay
X amount of money on a dinner.
But by golly, that is not something
I'm going to frequent on a daily basis.
And so, how to separate the fact that
I'm really okay spending money on
certain things or certain experiences,
but in order to have the money to do
that, I have to conserve elsewhere.
How do you suggest framing that?
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
so that's more about creating a plan
or a blueprint as I call it in my
book and really Deciding ahead of
time how you want to spend your money,
if you have a plan for your
money then it all makes sense.
It's when you don't have a plan
that it gets a little wild.
And I use debt to, to leverage
my wealth and grow my wealth.
I'm not a debt free person.
I don't.
I don't believe in the debt free model.
I don't think, you know, paying 20
percent interest on a credit card
makes sense, but I have what in my
book what's called the 7 percent rule.
If the interest rate is under
7%, you're better off investing
Versus if it's under 7 percent or
if it's over 7%, maybe you pay less.
Pay it off sooner.
And that's a flexible
number to a point, right?
It depends on your
mindset and your values.
But going back to what you said.
You create the, a plan for your money
and I may, you may like to go on
trips and travel to Europe and that
may be your thing and maybe I like
to, go to get my nails done or go
to concerts or go things like that.
Choosing how we spend our money.
Through a plan is what's most beneficial
rather than just say, well, I'm
going to do this and this and that.
And then before you know it, you've spent
more than you have coming in and then
you end up in a difficult situation.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541:
I think that makes sense.
And I think this whole aspect of
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
Yeah,
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: a choice.
I think it's interesting that
you don't talk about it as a
budget, but as a blueprint.
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
I hate the word budget,
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541:
to me about that.
I hate budgets too, by the way,
but I'm, I'm willing to hear
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
but he hates the word budget.
Yes.
So a, including me, everybody
hates the word budget because
budget a sounds constrictive.
And I remember the first time I
created myself a little budget.
I was actually in the negative and I
was like, I crumbled the, and that was
before anything fun, and I literally
like crumbled it up and then threw it
out and said, I'm never doing this again.
So that was, you know, in my early life
and, we were struggling to make ends meet,
and we all go through those times and
yes, sometimes you need to use a credit
card to get through those times, I just
have an aversion to the word budget.
So I like to call it a plan because
a budget is telling you like,
not, well, you can't spend money.
You gotta like,
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541:
what you can't do is what
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
yes.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: feels like.
Right.
Yeah.
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
And a plan is like, okay, or a
blueprint is, okay, I'm deciding
where I want to spend my money.
It's just a whole different, like, vibe.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541:
and it, yeah, yeah, okay, I like
that because, okay, thank you.
I'm going to, I'm no longer
going to have a budget, I'm
just going to have blueprints.
how do you see this whole idea
of mindset applying to business?
Right?
So I think a lot of this, what we're
talking about, my money mindset
is my personal money mindset.
And yet it affects businesses.
And I know you work with a lot
of small, in midsize businesses.
How do you see that?
Going from being personal
to being business.
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
Well, I always like to say how you do
one thing is how you do everything.
Like, we're just
creatures of habit, right?
So, in most cases, I can't say it's
for everybody, but what I've seen is
if we're, you know, more conservative
on Our personal finances, we're more
conservative on our business finances.
Is that good or bad?
You don't know.
If you're more conservative, sometimes
you might take less risk in your
business that could then pay off, right?
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: Right?
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541: So,
like, you just, I think, have to be aware.
And I talk about that in my book.
I apply the different DISC personalities
to, how you are in, with money.
And, like I said, how you are
with one thing, it proves to
be how you are with money.
So, if you're more conservative
on, the leadership style or, or
whatever, you're going to be more
conservative with your money.
But if you're like the fun leader
and you're inspirational leader
and, you know, You're probably gonna
be less conservative with money
and more worried about having fun.
So, I mean, it all goes
across like all businesses.
Business and personal,
like it's all the same.
And I think becoming aware of who you are
and how you look at things is probably
one of the most important things.
So you can say, well, is this me being
too conservative and maybe I should, get
advice on taking this business risk or
not, or vice versa, is that me, this
being fun and putting money everywhere.
Maybe I should take a step back
and be a little more conservative.
And so knowing who you are and
and how you are with things is very
important and it just goes across
whether it's personal or business.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541:
A couple of final questions.
One is just around, taking control
of your financial future, which is,
you know, which kind of ties into
money mindset, but also other things.
Right.
And I think.
But often, as an entrepreneur, you know
that your future is in your own hands.
I mean, you have to do things
to make that future happen
in, the land of the corporate.
We often assume that we've got
financial security through our
companies, and yet we also see that
there are a number of layoffs coming.
There are companies that are being
bought and sold that are shifting,
people's Livelihood potentially,
yeah, maybe they're continuing to be
employed, maybe they're by a different
company, maybe no longer employed
and need to find something new.
and I think there's this hypothesis
that, you know, hey, I've got this
steady paycheck and it's going to
continue to be this steady paycheck.
And then one day it's not.
We can plan ahead.
So what should people be doing
personally really to take control
of their financial future?
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
Either saving or, there
are other ways too.
There are two vehicles I like for
an emergency fund and it's not
necessarily how most other people do it.
So I have two unique, ways that I
always used as my, you know, quote
unquote, nest egg or savings.
So I always have a home
equity line of credit.
And the best time to get that
is when you don't need it.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: Absolutely.
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
The best time to get any money from
any bank is when you don't need it.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: Yeah.
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
have a line of credit that works, you
know, just like a credit card where
you can draw on it when you need it.
so having, that's actually how I paid
for, for a lot of my kids college is
using a home equity line of credit.
your home is constantly
increasing in value.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: Yeah.
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
98 percent of the time, of course, we
had, you know, 1 or 2 years where that
wasn't the case, but, 98 percent of the
time your house is increasing in value.
So, having that home equity line
of credit is letting you tap
into that value of your home.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: Hmm.
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
And if you don't need it, you're
not paying any interest on it.
You're not using it.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: Right.
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
The other vehicle is a Roth IRA.
So that grows.
tax free, and you could always take
out the principal, which is, you
know, the money you put in out of
a Roth IRA, tax and penalty free.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: Yeah.
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
So, and it grows tax free, so
you're not paying any tax on the
interest in the growth, and it's
there in case of an emergency.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: Yeah.
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
I know there's income
limits on the Roth IRA.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: Well, what I
was going to say is, and this becomes the
subject of a completely different podcast.
In fact, there's probably podcasts
out there, but you know, the
whole backdoor Roth conversion
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
yes,
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: huge
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
what I was gonna say.
There is a back, you can put it
in a non traditional IRA and then
roll it into a Roth IRA, which
is called a backdoor Roth IRA.
So, which they might as well
just eliminate the Roth IRA.
Like, and
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: Right.
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
be done with it.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: gets
back to, um, Congress and, you
know, Constituent's money mindset
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
right.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: rich
people and what constitutes rich and
where the benefits should go, etc.
So that's
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
Exactly.
You make a great point there Victoria.
It is.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541:
ah, see, I learn
I learn.
So this has been really fun, Audrey.
I'm really glad that
we've gotten to do this.
Um, and, just learn more
about what you're doing.
Uh, where can our audience learn
more about you or connect with
you if they want to and learn
more about, um, she grows Rich,
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
Sure.
Well, she grows rich.
I had to become a financial
powerhouse is available on Amazon.
You can get the digital copy
right now for just 99 cents.
It's on sale.
And you can get that.
Just search she grows rich Audrey
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: Okay,
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
Faust.
It'll come right up for you.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541:
include a link for
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
Oh, perfect
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541:
well, just to make life easy.
Yeah, exactly.
audrey-faust--mba_1_03-04-2025_145541:
and then You can find me
at Audrey Faust consulting.
com and I have some free resources on
there There's also if you buy the book
you can find my book portal on there Which
has some additional free resources in it.
So including a money mindset training
and some fun calculators when you're
when you're calculating different things
like your net worth that I talk about in
the book as well as the 7 percent rule.
There's a 7 percent rule
calculator in there.
that lets you compare investing
versus paying off debt.
There's all kinds of fun stuff in there.
victoria_1_03-04-2025_135541: Awesome.
Well, this has been great.
Audrey, you so much for joining me.
I really appreciate your time today.
Absolutely.
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