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007 Vinyl Underground - Somatic House Collective
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Tony: [00:00:00] -Welcome back party people to the Vinyl on the Ground Podcast.
Where Beats Meet community. My name is Tony Technique, your host. I'm here with my man, Tim Pena, and today we have a couple of special guests for you today. Who do we have, Tim?
Tim: Yes, we have Sai and Liam of Somatic House Collective. Two new up and comers that have kind of already established themselves and they're putting on some amazing.
Parties in the triangle. Um
Tony: Yep, yep. So
Tim: look forward to learning more and just seeing what they have going on in the future.
Tony: Yep. Yep. Liam and s are pretty good friends of mine. They've been around [00:01:00] town doing some parties here and there. You know, they are in my circle bump into them guys a lot and they have a lot that I believe they have a lot going on and there's gonna be a good, good conversation.
Yeah. So I hope you guys enjoy.
Tim: Cheers.
Tony: Welcome to the
show, somatic House Collective in the house. My boy Liam. Hello my boy. Si. What's up? What's going on? Yeah. Happy to be here.
Happy y'all, man. Yeah. Thank you guys for joining. Thank you guys for joining us. You know, I've been, um, a fan of you guys for, well, a fan. I think I've seen you. First, and you know what, I met you the first time you [00:02:00] gave me an opportunity to do open decks at, I sent you that picture recently. Yeah. Yes. And that was at the, and you know, ever since then, I know that ever since, yeah.
Um, I would play it at the, in the basement they were throwing that party. Was it the subterranean, subterranean subterranean party. Right. And, um, that's where I met Liam. He gave me the opportunity to say, that's, that's what's up, man. And then I met s the same night. Mm-hmm. And ever since then, you know, we've been kind of, you know, in the same circles, running around the same circles and following you guys and doing what you're doing.
I've been seeing Liam play and Si been doing some gigs and stuff like that. Glad you guys are happy to join us, man. And thank you for
Liam: having us. I know.
Tony: Tell the World a little bit out, a little bit about somatic House and what you guys are up to and tell me, tell us all about it, bro.
Sure.
Liam: So, I mean, we started somatic House about a year ago now. Yep. Was kind of birthed out of, well I was doing sub training in the basement at the Fruit that was under a different kind of name, glocal Patch at the time. Mm-hmm. I had a different partner. And when he decided to take a step back from doing it, I did a few more sub trainings in the fruit by myself.
Mm-hmm. And it started to get to a point where like, [00:03:00] all right, this is getting really, you know, it's growing, it's getting more fun. There's a lot more happening now. Yes. This is too much to do by myself. Sure. Um, and then I happened to meet s we had kind of brushed past each other at blends with Friends up in Durham before, but never had really like, sat down and had a talk.
Mm-hmm. And we just ran into each other by chance at a mutual friend's place. And I started telling him about what I was doing and I was kind of telling him like, oh, I, you know, explaining like, I'm at a point now where I really need help with this. Yeah. And he was like, well, I can, I can hop on and help you.
We both work in marketing. Yeah. So we kind of had the similar vision of what we wanted out of, um, doing events in the area. And one thing led to another and, um, I think later that year we. Finally sat down at his house and started kind of cooking up the ethos of what Somatic House Collective would be, what the mission was going to be, and yeah, from there, here we are now.
syrn: Yeah, it's been one year.
Tony: Yeah. Almost. Which is really surprising.
Liam: A year. This May was officially one year of Somatic House.
Tony: Did you guys have something else before Somatic House together, [00:04:00] or, no.
Liam: I mean I had Local Patch then. Local Patch. Okay. But then, um, when he came on board, we decided, you know what?
Let's, that was fun. Local Patch had its run, but let's kind of see what we can do to grow it from a different standpoint.
syrn: And I was just running around, you know, meeting DJs at the time. I was still fairly new to the scene. It had been just two years, I wanna say just a little over two years at that point that I had moved from Seattle.
Mm-hmm. Um, and I was just meeting everyone. Yes. And that's why like Liam and I had brushed past a few times, but you're meeting so many DJs and producers as I'm sure you guys are aware.
Tim: Yeah. And you're
syrn: like, everyone's trying to do something. Everyone's trying to help the community and give back. Um, but for me it was really important to like partner up with someone that we had the same values, the same ideals, the same vision.
And once Liam and I started working together, that kind of came more closer together. That's amazing. So, yeah. Mm-hmm.
Tim: You guys, it seems like you've known each other for a while. 'cause we're talking just less than two years ago because, because we know when you moved here. Yeah, exactly. You can't be more done unless you guys were friends prior, but yeah.
That's amazing. What a great tribute to you both for [00:05:00] just kind of seeing the talent in each other and just being able to vibe and. Be friends and do it as a collaboration. Absolutely. Mm-hmm.
Liam: Yeah. Well, it definitely helped that we had, going into it. We had the same idea of what we wanted to do with Somatic House.
I mean, you know, the, the mission behind it was to. Put the attention back on the dance floor. Mm-hmm. And that's a tough thing to do, especially nowadays, you know, the DJ booth has become kind of like a, a center point in a lot of parties. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And sometimes, a lot of, a lot of the time people want to see the DJ now.
I mean, but a, a huge source of our inspiration was, um, clubbing in the, in New York and from like, the early nineties, 3000 Didn't pay attention. No. Or, you know, I mean, even the, even the, um, the name from, of our flagship event, sound Factory comes from the Sound Factory in New York. Um, it's a huge source of inspiration for us.
I mean, just looking back at even old pictures, it's just people standing in front of a wall of speakers. Tony and I have talked about that before, where, you know, it's, it's, we think it's really cool and we kind of wanna try and achieve something similar to [00:06:00] that.
Tim: Yeah, that's a great vision, man. You're right.
'cause back in the day that's been, they, they talk about that. Mm-hmm. I think, I mean, maybe didn't focus as much on the, but it's kind of, it is a nice center and I more of a hardcore fan, as you guys know, y'all are putting in the work so I can fan boy and dance my ass off all night because you play great music, which also gets me moving.
Tony: Yeah,
Tim: to see you also perform. I'm kind of always taking notes like, oh, lemme learn some technical stuff. So it's just kind of cool. And you guys are both sharp and crisp and great lighting. We try, yeah. Yeah, we try. Great graphic. Designing your synergy as a team is probably a smart move.
Liam: Yeah. Yeah. You
Tim: both
Liam: are
Tim: bringing something to the table.
Liam: I try. I mean, it's, it's really is helpful that s is, has such a good creative eye and he's able to, you know, kind of take what I, we both have in our heads and, and make it a reality from a visual standpoint. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I see. Um, and yeah, it's, I mean, you know, I'm still learning.
I'm definitely not a lighting guy by heart. I, I, yeah. I'm learning quite a bit as every time we throw an event, um, I [00:07:00] really want to try and dive into some of that software more and more. And I have been here and there, but, you know, it's tough to really, it's. Teaching myself how to produce music and still teaching myself how to dj.
Yeah. And teaching myself how to throw events. It's, it's, there's so much learning going on. It's tough to, it's gonna be a, a, a long trial process by fire, no matter how people you consult with that are been doing it constant growth. There's
Tony: constant growth, you know what I'm trying to say? And, and you have to always kind of grow and, and push for the next level, right?
Of course. Yes. You can't probably meet anyone to say they have it all figured out. Right? No, not at all. It's just always gonna be, you know, how can I take it now to the next time? You're always gonna be learning. Right. Course. You're not learning. I was speaking to one of, one of the fellows the other day.
It's gonna stay flat. Right. If you don't learn, man mm-hmm. You stay like this. Right. So that's a good story. And, but, but, um, you know, what got you, what got you guys into DJing, man? I mean mm-hmm. What influenced you and you wanna start? Yeah, I
syrn: mean, dude, for me it was, I mean that's might sound a little corny, but for me it was like back in high school.
I mean, I remember seeing, for me at that time, I saw Martin Garrick's all of a sudden blow up on the scene. Mm-hmm. And he really was that [00:08:00] first DJ for me that got me inspired into like EDM music. And at that time I wasn't really even listening to EDM. I didn't even know really what that was. Right. I grew up with mostly like r and b and hip hop.
Yeah. And that's what I was listening to a lot back in the two thousands and 2010s. Like that was my kind of stuff. But then seeing Martin Garson, seeing, you know, what he was doing as a 16-year-old was massively inspiring to me as a high schooler. And I was like, I think this is something I genuinely want to try and pursue.
Um, and you know, like senior year, junior year I was in high school, I had cracked Ableton. I was like making mixes. That's awesome. During like lunch break, I was just doing random things, just trying it out, really, you know, pay full, full version for come no money. But I was like, I'm not gonna just sit here and watch this keep happening.
Like, I want to try like if some 16-year-old across the world could do it, why can't I? Was really the kind of mentality that I had. And so I was like, let me just try this. Um, and I [00:09:00] did and I, that's how I started my teaching myself production. And then later, once I got into college, my first year of freshman, I remember.
Me and my, one of my old friends, we split a, like a new Mark, basic two channel, like deck Uhhuh. It was like 200 bucks. We each put in a hundred dollars and next thing you knows, our, our dorm was like a little dorm party room and I'm just DJing on some two channel, make sure off a laptop with r and BM going back and forth.
And that's kind of how it started. And I've, you know, kept that passion going and I've always felt connected to music. It's always been a source of, you know, comfort for me, a source of creativity for me, um, along with the art. But that's kind of where my DJing and production roots started, like from high school, college, and just loving music and wanting to be a part of that scene.
Yeah. And trying to give back in any way that I can. Awesome man. Yeah. And And your
Tony: roots. Your roots
syrn: are like, family's from, family's from India. I'm a first generation Indian [00:10:00] American. Okay. I grew up in Seattle. Mm-hmm. Um, so I grew up with around a lot of diversity, different cultures and different Sounds good.
And so that's something that I always try to bring in my music as I'm sure you guys have listened. You know, that's kind of why I'm so big on Afro house as well. It's like, it's really a good foundation to explore other cultural world rhythms. Right. And that's really where I'm trying to go with my DJ career in production.
Yes. Like that sound, I want to bring different cultural rhythms, different world sounds into it. And we hear it every day. It's like, it's not something crazy like, you know, those world sounds are in like day-to-day pop songs, hip hop, RB, it's been sampled for years. Correct. I just feel like there hasn't been enough representation and I think it's time we keep that pushing.
Yeah. There are people out there, there are DJs out there that represent it, but there's, you know, always more room to improve and I think, yeah. You know. Each artist that does it gets more and more Yeah. On the highlights. So,
Tim: and you can't sleep on India either, can we? Speaking about it, sleep, fucking, the synergy
Tony: of, like, I was watching a a, um, that [00:11:00] sound on YouTube.
Some, some set somebody from India, some girl she was playing. She was in Bangalore. Just killing it. Yeah. I was like, I've never seen this before. Yeah. Like India's just coming. When you bring in like
Tim: a Taboola and certain, like, you know, this even a, like, shout out to
Tony: the Bangalore folks, like Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, man, it's a, a big country man.
syrn: A lot of talent. There's a lot of music, a lot of creativity that comes out there. Yeah. It's like, and you could, like, I ask people, so it's like if you ask like, what's. You guys can't really name like a, a South Asian or Indian dj that's really at the top of the game, right?
Yeah. It's hard. You really gotta like, yeah. You know, you gotta, you gotta be over
Tony: there to really know. Yeah, exactly. Going on. But it's got a good underground scene too. It's a good underground scene. That's not necessarily
Tim: a big problem. It's this humming
syrn: enough.
Tim: It's kind of that underground vibe. You might have 5K followers, but you're badass.
syrn: What? But it's great. Yeah. Why, on that
Tony: note, man, let's talk about like Asia, man, how that's kind of emerging more, right? Oh yeah. And you guys, I mean, I know you guys have probably heard more and seen more, [00:12:00] but mm-hmm. What do what, what do you think your perspective is on how that. Scene is out because I've seen a lot, I've seen a lot of DJs coming out of, like you said, out of India, out of Japan.
And producers, especially like technical producers. There's
Liam: that one guy who just did that boiler room with, um, he had brain cancer. Mm-hmm. Um, he worked Oh yeah. Name? Not Bei Ruth. No, he's a Japanese dude. Oh, Japanese guy. Okay. Oh, yeah. Took shut that point. Yeah. Had never DJ before, got diagnosed with like, I think it was brain cancer.
That, and then Jesus just said he dropped everything, became a dj, and now he's like on top of the world. That's awesome, man. He blows
Tony: up. He like, I see Milan in his videos. One of the performances he did in the boiling room, like you said. Mm-hmm. He just posted everywhere and you could just watch it any place.
But, um, it's crazy energy, that type of stuff. But, you know, a lot of places over in you know, a lot of DJs come outta Asia, but, um, yes. That's, they have a lot to you could just imagine the world of sounds that they're exactly trying to say all the tribal stuff.
Tim: Singapore, Indonesia, they, they're popping, um, the big cities in China, of course, just Africa, that back.
Yeah, we know Africa. Yeah, [00:13:00] we do. But even Barack and North Africa kind of has its own sound versus South Africa. And, you know, Congo,
syrn: Saudi tours with Middle East. We got a lot of too. Turkeys. Turkey's one of the greats too. Yeah, exactly. Turkey. Yeah. This is a nice little blend of all these world sounds that, yeah, I feel like the.
As just like the Indy, the in music industry in general, is finally taking notice to how unique those sounds are. Yeah. The world's more connected than ever now. Yeah. It's really making it more diverse and connected. Mm-hmm. We are lucky. That's really, like I
Tony: said, you can catch people's sets from India, from Japan.
Yeah. You know, you know, Asia and Africa. It is nice. It just, it just, it just opens you up and, you know, it's a great time to be a dj. What do you think about that? Man? It's a great time to be a dj. I think so, and sometimes I hear drawbacks. I hear, you know, pitfalls about the technology and how it's too easy to be a DJ nowadays.
And the barrier
Liam: to entry is a lot easier. I mean, you know, especially with it being, I mean, I still have friends who look at me as a DJ and think, how do [00:14:00] you do that? I'm like, it's really, I mean, the, the, especially when you're mixing house music. It really, the barrier to entry is not that hard. It's just you have to have the catalog and, you know, know some, get to understand some of the technical skills, but being a DJ is more than just the technical side of it.
Anyone can learn how to beat match. Being a DJ is knowing how to read a room, yada, yada. You know, that whole, that whole spiel, which I know I'm still learning how to do. What got
Tony: you into it though. Mm-hmm.
Liam: Um, I mean, my family has quite a deep musical history. My dad was a grunge rock drummer for the majority of the nineties, and, um, a little bit of the eighties.
He
Tim: was a golden era to be that that was really the Oh yeah. Late eighties into early nineties. Nineties, yeah. And
Liam: before that he was, you know, top 40 bands in LA and stuff like that. And then on my mother's side, my grandfather is a, um, classically trained jazz pianist. So he has got quite a lot. He's very talented.
And I've tried to, my parents tried to get me to play instruments my whole life. I, you know, piano, guitar, um, brass instruments, violin strings, you know, things like that. Yeah. But nothing ever really stuck until I got my first, um, [00:15:00] DDJS SP 200 Uhhuh. My friend was a DJ in college and over quarantine. I was getting pretty bored, just cooped up in the house.
And he said, well, you can, you know, I found his board in one of my other buddy's houses. And he said, you can just keep it. So I started teaching myself how to DJ top 40 music, and it just like a light flip switched. And all of a sudden I was hooked. And I'd always liked electronic music. You know, I've, growing up my house had quite an eclectic taste of music being played.
Mm-hmm. Between, you know. Classical music all the way to, you know, heavy metal. Um, I think the first electronic artist I ever heard was Fat Boy Slim. Um, yeah. So, you know, and then like early middle school I was big into dubstep and then, you know, it's electronic music has always kind of been there for me.
Tim: Mm-hmm.
Liam: But then I really started getting into house music around 20 20, 20 21. Mm-hmm. And then I moved to Raleigh, kind of didn't touch the decks for a while, and then I started going to events in the area and I was like, all right, I gotta, I gotta try and do this again. Yeah. Yeah. This looks like a lot of fun.
Mm-hmm. Especially when I went, I [00:16:00] forget who it was, but I went to some party in Raleigh a few years ago, and the DJ really just read the room well and just killed it and had everyone in the palm of his hand the entire time. And I was like, all right. That's, that's really cool. I wanna learn how to do, that's nice.
Yeah. Yeah. I, yeah, I mean, I think every DJ has that moment where they. Went to that first party where like the d the person playing music was just fully in control of the room. Yes. Mm-hmm. So yeah, then I started really digging into house music and you know, from there, here we are. Yeah. Four years later.
That's amazing. Mm-hmm. And you
Tony: mentioned, um, like we were talking earlier about the barrier to getting into DJ now has gotten a little bit. Easier, huh?
Liam: I think with the, the, you know, how great social media has become and how important and powerful a day is now, you know, everyone sees DJs starting off and, you know, it's, the entry level boards are only like 150 bucks now.
Yeah. So all of a sudden, you know what was, once before, like a long time ago, two turntables in a mixer was super expensive. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Now everyone's got a laptop already. So, you know, A DDJ flex four is like [00:17:00] $150
Tony: is easy now to crate dig and whatnot, you know, and you don't even have to crate dig really.
I mean, no, you don't just find, you know, Shazam something. But, but you know, that, that's something I was just talking about with a friend of mine about the, the state of the DJs, the emerging DJs, the the ones that are coming out and learning now, not only the DJs, but also the production, the producers, right?
Mm-hmm. Um, how those things are getting a little bit easier now for people to get started. Somebody can make an album. I was just talk to my son the other day talking about he made a. Made a song for, I think it was Kendrick la Kendrick Lamar on his phone. Mm-hmm. You know, produced it and everything on his phone.
Wow. Mm-hmm. You know, and it's like, you know, makes me wonder, you know, what, you know, what is the future of DJs and producers, man? You know, and I always think about that because, you know, if it's that easy.
syrn: Yeah.
Tony: Right. I mean, I was just, it was like some article the other day I think was online or something about that.
All you gotta do is like, think hum, the, the sound or whatever, or [00:18:00] whatever. Mm-hmm. And then it could just make a song for you. Mm-hmm. Right. Something crazy like that, like AI stuff. Right. Yeah. You know, and that's, that's one, one thing for you guys. I was wondering what your perspective was on it. Like, you know, where do you see that going down the future?
Man, because a lot of, actually a friend of mine. They used to work with hit me the other day. He goes, I want, I saw you DJing the other night on a dj. Right. It's like, all right, get this dj d DJ got, got him to flex four. Yeah. You know, and then he wants to start playing like some side trance, whatever.
And I says, cool. Try it out. Right. Yeah. But, you know, it makes me think like, you know, I guess anybody can just go ahead and pick up a board and, and,
Tim: yeah. Mm-hmm.
Tony: But there's a lot of skill, you know, involved as well. Right. You have course. Yeah. Have to learn. You have to read the room. Yeah. You have to know what the vibe is.
Like, you know, how do you guys approach that stuff, man? What, what do you do for your sets?
Liam: I think for reading the room, I'm, that's still a skill. I'm, I can say I'm not good at yet. Yeah. That's, you know, I'm still early on, I think, I think when it comes to the DJ career, that skill is something that comes with just time.
I agree. Just playing gigs, playing in clubs. Yes. Mm-hmm. And I mean, yeah, anyone can pick up a DJ board and, and mix two tracks together, but it takes [00:19:00] real time and effort to be able to walk into a room. Adjust what you're playing to match the vibe that's going on. Yeah. And that's something that I haven't nailed down yet.
syrn: Yeah, I agree. I mean, I think it's, it's easy to pick up a board, easy to download tracks and you know, you can learn beat matching 'cause it's just a technical skill. Mm-hmm. But once you learn all the technical skills, it's like, how do you piece it together in real time? Yeah. Like you were saying, reading the room and being able to piece it in real time and being knowing like, okay, now's the time to flip this now.
This is what the crowd needs, this is what the audience needs. Let me feed them this. Lemme take away this. Let me do that stuff. Takes a lot of trial. And you need
Liam: the library to do that too. You need a lot. You need to build your library. Library. You need
syrn: to have enough gigs under your belt. And they're also, the gigs need to be of different sizes.
They can be small, big, large. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And so now, and you get different audiences in different places of the world or maybe even different places of the US Yeah. That's the demographics. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like you're just constantly building. I think, you know. Like older DJs are probably [00:20:00] much better with this because they've been doing this for so long.
Definitely. But I think, like I, I always feel like I'm in a perpetual chase for perfection and perfections where you can do that in real time. Yeah. Seamlessly without even thinking.
Tim: Yeah. That's great. And I think we're
syrn: all, as DJs chasing that feeling where we can, where we do have that library where.
Library where we feel comfortable and we can read the room in real time and play to them and play to our hearts content. Mm-hmm. And I think we're all just chasing that high. That's when that high happens. Yeah. You know, you hit that stride and you're like, I'm feeling good. Yeah. And that's what you're chasing ultimately.
Yeah. But I think it takes a lot time. Yeah. A lot of time and experience. I'm still learning. Yeah. You know, I think I'll forever be learning, you know? Sure. It's
Liam: never gonna be a point where I'm like, all right, I'm done. Yeah, exactly. Say that '
Tim: cause you just kind of like, took a risk and chance and knew, you know, you didn't know that much in the beginning at some point.
I guess that's everybody, but, um, to see your, how inspired you are to keep,
Tony: just take some notes from this guy. He knows what's up. No, but I don't, but I don't touch the decks, man. I gotta, I'm [00:21:00] lucky I know enough for y'all. Maybe I, you could give some advice, but how many parties you've been through?
Tim: Ah, God fuck ton man.
I mean, I sorry for the. Ing, I, that's sound very professional, but I yeah, it's just, I I chase and, and, and that part of me that I don't mind enjoying what others bring. It's kind of, you know, my mom too to, you know, opera singer, classically, she badass. Like, and so music, my brother, I remember when I was, he's eight years older, just, you know, several hundred records and, you know, I'm listening to stealing in or ELO or whatever, seventies, 80 nineties and, and alternative.
And, but yeah, music to me is, doesn't matter what makes it or how it, it's, it's, when it crosses this threshold Yeah. Mys are closed. I don't need an organic band like so many of my friends. Mm-hmm. It's, some of these guys again, have laid down all the loops and layers anyway. Mm-hmm. They are classically trained and they're, yeah.
But but I just am inspired to see you guys make magic for me and, you know, and I support my friends too. I always find a way to dance. I'm like, yeah, that's, [00:22:00] but you know what, if I get one out of every five tracks that's, I'm fucking don't get this guy dancing, he'll be he, it keep
Tony: going off and whatnot.
He's doing this shit. I'm like, girlfriend's horrified.
Tim: And she is like, dude, you look a little fancy out there. But yeah,
Tony: he's a little fancy. I'll take all the dances. It's kind of nice to just let go. And that's the thing, right? What's up with Dancing Man Mean that's y'all do for me. Thank you. Yeah, exactly.
And that's what we wanna see. But it's a, I told, I told him the other, last time I played, it was like, I can feel your presence, bro. You can feel it was a great thing to know that somebody, oh, forget that he said that somebody's there and they know that, you know, you're, you're bouncing off of them and you know they're responding to you and all that
Liam: stuff.
That's the person I pay attention to the most when I play it is like whoever's dancing, it's like, all right, I need to keep them dancing. Yeah. They're vibing
Tony: off. You be like, all right, I gotta give, keep. 'cause they can probably get other people to come over. Exactly. Person, one person draws other people.
That's contagious.
syrn: That's exactly
Tim: how, kind of glad I'm wired that way to not give too many F's. Where you just kinda like that's, I kind of, you know, 10, 15 years ago, even still [00:23:00] listening you, I just. Free to let go, kind of, that's still that insecure or whatever, you know, I don't, you know, but now it's just like, yeah, whatever.
syrn: That's the same. I think that's the big thing for us at some somatic house is just the dance floor should be free for everyone. Yeah. Without judgment or whatever. Without judging nothing. You should, I know. I'm not paying attention how anybody else moves.
Liam: No, not at all. It should be inclusive and respectful and Yeah.
I mean it's, it's almost like, it's just simple. Like, it's like it's almost a no brainer.
Tim: Right. And it is therapy and it is. There's data and science. I've never did it based on that, but it's kind of a extra credit bonus to hear.
Tony: Mm-hmm.
Tim: Yeah. It shows, you know, especially in that range of. One 13 to like 1 21 or something.
You know, there's, there's data that says, you know, your heart appreciate those endorphins and whatnot. Mm-hmm. You kind of, that's good for you.
Tony: That's why they say release, there's a song come, come out. You know, it's called Release Yourself. Yes. Gotta release. Right. I mean, that's, that's what it's all about.
Get out your own head. It is. Get out of your own head and, you know, forget about all the worries. Right. Yeah. Um, and that's one of the, one of the, you know, persistent things that we [00:24:00] always, always speak about in the show is, you know, the state of the floor. Right. The state of the dance floor, you know.
Mm-hmm. We're trying to, you know, people are trying to bring back more people dancing and whatnot. Mm-hmm. You know, and, um, and we would, we have one of the guests previous guests when Brooke Legends was on mm-hmm. Shout out to Kenley and Brooke Legends. Mm-hmm. We were talking about the dance floor and how, you know, um, there needs to be more of that.
Yeah. You know, there needs to be, you know, people just kind of sitting around two stepping Okay. But, you know, actual dancing. Yeah. You know, that's, that's something that, you know. It's kind of being lost a little bit, you know? Mm-hmm. Kind of people are sitting there and on their phones and they're watching the dj, they're watching the DJ instead of just dancing.
You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And that's, it's
Tim: like the chicks a robot heart hanging from the heart and they got their fake boobs and stuff, and they're lovely, but, you know, it's kinda like, okay, this is like, it's not a titty bar. Like this is a really good like Lee Bird song and you're okay. You know?
Like Yeah, but that's, but, but they're moving. But it's kind of like, yeah. They're, they're probably not as plugged into the, well, you know, artist but zone, teacher
Tony: own, you know, I mean, you know, [00:25:00] everybody's gonna vibe in their own element. Right, right. I guess. Right. But, um, you know, a lot of this music, a lot of people like going to see other people dance, right?
Mm-hmm. And, and I know when I was going out, like in New York and stuff like that, I would like to go places and see people vibing and see people dancing in a circle, you know, circle dancing or something. It's fun, you know, it's expressive, you know, and people, you know, um, um, it's contagious. 'cause then you wanna try to do some of that too.
Right. And, you know, a lot of that I feel I overall, not just like in our local scene. Has been, has been, you know, missing in a lot of ways, man. Mm-hmm. Um, it's, it's sad to see that. And you know, I was at a party a couple weeks ago over at, um, the No Visa party, shout out to no Visa guys. And he was there.
And yeah, those, those folks are dancing. They dance. I, I forgot who it was. That's where that night said they were from Raleigh, I think the first time coming out to Durham ever to party and stuff like that. And they were like, yeah, it's my first time in Durham. I was like, dur knows how to dance. They [00:26:00] do.
Yeah, it's true. You know what I'm saying? And people were dancing over there. Wow. That's, that's a. I love that. I think the music they play at
Liam: the Novi parties, I think that's where, like, that is what regular clubs will start playing. Mm-hmm. Because like, people are getting tired of going to, like, I mean, especially around Raleigh Durham mm-hmm.
The, you know, the non dance music clubs, it's still just like top 40 hits from like the early two thousands. Yeah. Right. Like r and b and it's like at some point, like, all right, people gotta get tired of listening to this at some point. We've been listening to this for a couple decades now. I am a firm believer that like, parties like Novi, that's what the clubs are gonna start playing soon.
Yeah. It's world music. It's like, it's just so diverse and it's so cool to see how they blend, like, you know, a Chief Keef song with some track. I've never heard of Calypso with some Soka. Exactly.
Tony: You know, some hip hop, even some rock. Yeah. Like some you know, you know, yeah. They killed it that night. But yeah, it was fun.
That's, that's the fun vibe, man. And I would like to see more of that happening around the triangle, man. I mean, um, you know, like you said, you know, there's, there's [00:27:00] parties out now that, you know, Umhmm. Top 40 stuff or whatever and it gets boring. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I mean, people gotta mix it up a bit. I think that's, that's what's needed out here.
And there's plenty of room to grow. I mean, you guys agree? That's so good about the triangle. Yeah. I think if you guys agree, I think there's plenty room to grow out here. Oh yeah, absolutely. Oh my gosh. There's, it's like an
Liam: empty canvas out here, especially in for dance music, for like the no visa parties, everything.
And because it's just like, again, you go to, like, you go to Glenwood or you, you know, and it's just you go to these, some of the bigger clubs and it's like, man, like I know, can we please just switch up a little bit? I
Tim: think it kind of helps them pay the bills. Of course. I think the owners may not want that, but I've seen some pivot to just mostly house driven and um, you know, I don't have to name, but it's almost like you build it and they will come.
And then secondly, maybe they didn't want some of the quality of. Whatever, or whatever they deemed as, eh, this, this is a vibe. I don't even, even though I'm probably gonna lose money, I'm going to commit to house every night. And thank God I'm [00:28:00] selfishly like, stoked, you know? Yeah. And, um, oh heck, I'll name one.
I mean you know, clockwork with Kelly and Sue. Well, um, such a vibe. Those guys decided to like make it up seven day a week thing. Shout pop work. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And, um, but I mean, I remember Timem for, it might have been more hip hop driven. It might have been r and b, all of the above crossovers house music too.
But, you know, they pack it out. But it's kinda like
Liam: they book good DJs too. Yeah. They book really good DJs. They have a knife for talent there.
Tim: Exactly. Exactly. So that's been refreshing to see some clubs just even though I, I think they, you know, maybe even on paper, they're still not making the same money if I'm looking at it from an owner perspective.
Mm-hmm. But, um, but it's, to your point, you know, Liam, that I kind of, I concur, you know, people are,
Liam: it takes time slowly pivoting
Tim: to. Being open to it if nothing else.
Liam: Yeah. I think it'll just take time. That's really what it is. People have to come in and just understand what it's, people need to have that one experience where they go to a club Yes.
And have a good, like, house music DJ or whatever's a random night. Yeah. And like, they're just, it, all it takes is that one [00:29:00] experience. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. I agree.
Tony: Yeah. One of the things that, um again, going back to one of our previous guests that was here Adam from the Face is Blur. Mm-hmm.
Tim: Mm-hmm.
Tony: We were talking about and I put out a promo, promo clip with him just recently talking about how four on the floor can just kind of get tired, you know, throughout the whole night.
Man, you know what I'm trying to say? I mean, you know, and, and sometimes you gotta switch it up, like he was saying, you know, switch it up with some, some breakbeat or some electro and shit like that, you know, make it fun. Right. Yeah. And, and I think, I think that's, you know, a lot of people out here, you know, they don't really.
I guess are new to the music, right? Mm-hmm. A lot of people that understand, like either they, they're new in the scene mm-hmm. Or they've moved to the area and they're just starting to get into the scene and they're listening to house music, whatever. You know, they wanna find a good party.
syrn: Yeah.
Tony: But, um, a lot of those people too are open to other sounds, you know?
Mm-hmm. They come from big cities, like I know I was Right. I came from, come from New York, other people come from big cities. Yeah. They've gone to places in which, you know, you're hearing house music, but at the same time, they'll throw some other electro stuff or, you know, break beat or something like that.
Mm-hmm. [00:30:00] You know, you guys, you guys play any of that,
Liam: yeah, I mean, I've definitely started to incorporate a little bit more of breaks. I like breaks a lot. Mm-hmm. Lex was the one who kind of put me onto all that I know. She like, you know, going from house into breaks and back and forth, it's like, I think it's so cool.
Mm-hmm. Um, but I mean, I think primarily I've stuck with just four on the four, but I think I'm, as I've I get older, I will start to incorporate more of that diversity. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it is, but Adam was right. I mean, it's, it's, you have to kind of break up the monotony a little bit. Sometimes.
Yeah. Sometimes, yeah.
syrn: Something I think for me it's, with Afro house, I play with a lot of percussive rhythms, so you'll hear me playing in and out of. Maybe one rhythm that's been going on for a while and I'll switch it up to maybe more ballet or maybe more Latin. Mm. And that in itself gives it a different layer.
Yeah, it might, they'll still be the four on the floor. Right. But I play a lot with like the percussion top, top line of the tracks and play around with that. I'll play a lot with the rhythm of it and like maybe echo it in and out or like play with the delays a lot on it. And I like to [00:31:00] just like slow down the rhythm or bring it back.
Yeah. Like abrupt changes. And that for me is like the way that I kind of DJ and mix. So I don't necessarily change genre, but I go genre adjacent at times. Smart does. It's a spectrum there. Yeah. Still make, make that different. Yeah. And I just try to just pull from different cultures, pull different sounds, different things that actually mesh well with the song that's playing.
I
Liam: guess it depends on the dj. Yeah, exactly.
syrn: Everyone has their own way of doing it. Mm-hmm. You know, to many solutions. Yeah. Not just one then there's no right way to
Tony: do it. Yeah, exactly. I, I think, um. Keeping it interesting is what, mm-hmm. Is the bottom line, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Absolutely. Interesting. You know, and you don't want.
People are like, I'm going to the same club for the third night, fourth week in a row. Right. And they can expect the same thing. Right. Right. It's not gonna happen. But you guys gosh, you guys have been busy with trying to throw some parties and stuff like that. Mm-hmm. You have your sound factory thing, I think coming up, right?
Mm-hmm. Yep. It is coming. Um, end of the month. End of the month, end of September. Yep. September 26th. And then
Tim: I guess who I run in [00:32:00] today, I ran into Doctor Insomniac. Yeah. So absolutely he's recognized me at the gym working out because I worked out not too far. Shout out. So yeah, shout out man, doctor, insomnia, full last dude and um, small world and yeah, he wasn't sure if it was me but he like, it was funny he had his Instagram pulled up.
He, thanks, I'm so glad he said Hey. And then small world. 'cause I forget that you guys are kind of, have become tight, that you're working together September 21st. Yes. He told me there's a date. So yeah.
syrn: Friend of Mattis Coffee for the, mentioned that, yeah, that he was the first
Liam: guy I met in the scene here. I met him at Clockwork Open Deck and he was the first dude who introduced himself to me.
You know what?
Tony: And he is actually, if you don't know this, Dr. Insomnia, Keith, the first time I did open deck with Sean. Is when I met him. Mm-hmm. So it was, it was first we all, it was like two years ago, kind. It's a very tight-knit community. It really very small. Yeah.
syrn: Yeah. Um, there's a lot of things coming up though.
Yeah. This five years is gonna be a whole big crowd, but we'll be, we'll be og Exactly. We're about to announce our September amount, September month [00:33:00] events. Um, that'll come out soon, but there's, yeah. 'cause we usually do our monthly event, kind of like promo. Yeah. Yeah. We got, we usually have, we're busy this month more so than the past few months, so Yeah.
It'll be a good packed one. The, the open air. Yeah. We've been
Liam: working with FS, works up in Durham for a little while, and now they're great. They're really easy to work with. That's also super cool little patio space up there. Yeah. Um, that just opened like. Like five months ago. Yeah. Six months ago.
Something. Yeah.
syrn: Six months. They have, they've only been open for like under a year. Yeah. Like they're just getting to a year, I wanna say. So yeah, there's just a lot of new businesses popping in town and they're also like, it's, I mean, 'cause the owners aren't even, um, they're from Philly, so there's a lot of people that are coming into North Carolina from out of state as well.
Yeah. Which is also really interesting. And with them, they're bringing their own culture of nightlife and what they like. Correct. It's, it's like proving to be a really good combination and a really good opportunity for a lot of new DJs and event collectives to come in there and [00:34:00] showcase
Tony: themselves,
syrn: their sound,
Tony: their ethos.
Tim: Yeah.
Tony: So, yeah, I agree. And that, that's one of the things I definitely believe about the area and how it's growing and people from other cities and, you know, from north, from wherever mm-hmm. Coming here and, you know, and contributing. Mm-hmm. Say and that's, that's something that I've noticed in the last four or five years that I've been really active.
That, that we're getting more and more people coming in and bringing their, their styles, their sound, their contributions. Mm-hmm. You know, um, and, you know, this is one thing, you know, this is why, you know, we, we, you know, we, um, create the show as well. You know, it's because we wanna grow with that. Yeah.
We wanna grow with that scene. We want to, you know, expose and, and expose these these, these up and comers like you guys. Mm-hmm. You know, um, doing, doing your thing. And, um. Hopefully, you know, we can go, we can, you know, win for the long haul. I don't know about you, you in for the long haul. Damn right.
Yeah.
Liam: Well, I remember talking to you about like this a little while ago and saying like, it's great that, you know, there's nothing like [00:35:00] this. I, I haven't seen anything like this in the state. I mean, between, you know, much of like, even the larger markets like Charlotte, like I don't think anyone's doing a consistent podcast that is focused on the local scenes here.
So I think it's incredible what you guys are doing. Thank you, man. I've
syrn: relayed the same to you. I remember I told you that one night too. That's right. That's right. It is. It's really good to see this. Yeah. Yeah,
Tony: definitely, man. You know, and I'm glad to have you guys, because you know, you, like I said, you guys are up and coming mm-hmm.
And you have your ear to the street a little bit more probably than a lot of, you know, a lot of other folks that we've probably had on, you know, had here. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm trying to say, and that's, you know, that's, that's important too. You know, we've had some, you know, OGs in here, we've had some, you know, some other guys who are very active.
Yep. You know, sometimes a little bit too active or too involved, but, but when you're still at the level that you're just stare waiting for the next opportunity, you're hungry. Yeah. You're ready to make that move. Burnout. You have the street, you wanna know what's up, you know, you wanna know what's trending, what's going on.[00:36:00]
This is one of the ways, this is one of the reasons why, you know, I like to have that, that, that variety of Audi of guests. Mm-hmm. Absolutely. I know. Um, and but you guys, um, but you know, as far as opportunities, you do a lot of stuff in Durham. Is that your favorite, more spot to be
Liam: think? Yeah. I think Dur Durham's just got such a better, well, maybe not better, but it's, there's so much more diversity in the music there and they're a lot more willing.
I mean, you know, I'm just a, your classic four on the four guy, and they're. Are way more accepting of that sound in there than they are in the nightlife scene in Raleigh right now, at least. So, you know, the venues are cool. The people there are incredible. The food is better. Um, in my no
Tim: per capita Durham.
Cool. You know what I mean? Doing the food. He is like, I had to food,
Liam: food a lot better food. I mean, like, I'm a, I'm a, I love food, good food. So after you're set, you
syrn: need a good meal. That's what we're, that's what we're missing. I'm saying that's
Liam: what whoever does, the 3:00 AM bodega in between Raleigh or Durham, [00:37:00] whoever opens that, the vinyl under ground bodega, whoever does that is game over.
That's the one thing we're missing in this area. Yes. If you're in New York, late
syrn: night spots, man, I mean, I
Liam: remember when we ran into you up at Jeff Mills up in New York on the right.
syrn: Yep.
Liam: Me and me and Jan went. To a bodega later, earlier night and got some food. I mean, what'd you get? It's, it's so like bacon, egg and cheese.
Yeah. Bacon, egg and cheese. Good one now. Um, there's one right by our hotel in Brooklyn, but yeah, I mean that's, if someone can open up. A late night food spot. Yeah. Like a real late night, like a no-brainer. It seems like a no-brainer, but I think it's been
Tim: everybody, like even creative innovative minds that I know 'cause I'm kind of in the restaurant scene.
Yeah, right. Yeah. It's it is still hard to crack them in, but I, I feel like Durham, that's better hope kind during this you queen population,
syrn: you got Queenies, but that's the one spot I know that's open till two. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. I think also it's like
Liam: the problem with packing a late night spot open is that there are most clubs, I mean, they're done at two, but then it's like, that's [00:38:00] just it.
You've got, obviously there are those late night after hour parties, you know, kinetic audio. Yes. Tenley does his Correct. I think there are some in, in Durham as well, but like, that's kind of your 10 to four or 10 to six. Yeah. Like a food truck will suffice for that. Like, for like a late night, like true late night like bodega spot.
You need like a pretty bustling after hours community. So I don't think we're there yet. I think that's why there hasn't been that day yet. We're probably right. We're just in
syrn: an area that's active at that time of day. Like even just coming up in a spot, like after 2:00 AM and everyone's out there. If that food spot is open.
Yeah, we're going and getting food. 'cause I'm hungry, whatever it is that fries, burgers like that still and, and the DJ maybe. Exactly. Especially for us, like, you know, I come off a set maybe late at night, I'm like, I'm starving. I'm physically exhausted. Mentally exhausted. Yep. And I just want a good meal.
Yeah. And then I'm going to bed. Get a sandwich. Yeah. Yeah. Quite literally anything man. But yeah,
Tony: we need a sfo. Um, like they have in Berlin. I know some of the folks that we know with went over to Berlin. [00:39:00] Holy speaking of that,
Tim: I think they were kind of music too. I mean, they made point. So
Tony: yeah, it's like a little community and whatnot and they have like clubs and they have food and everything.
You know what I'm saying? You could just, and it's open
syrn: until, fuck. I mean, I think it's open 24 hours 'cause I've never seen them closed. Yeah. They're always open and that's, that's great. Get a nice kebab at donor at 5:00 AM I'm great. I I'm going to bed perfectly right. Yeah.
Tony: But that's the thing too, out here is, you know, that the, especially like Raleigh and Durham, you know, that, that, you know, you have to drive, some people don't wanna drive from Raleigh mm-hmm.
You know, to Durham and then vice versa and whatnot, you know, so. That, that kind of disconnect kind of hampers things a little bit for the, for, for the scene, you know? Yeah. And I'm hoping that, that in between corridor, between Raleigh and Durham, which you have like up, up and down Highway 70 mm-hmm. That kind of connects, you know, that I think will be, if, if that can get more developed, you know, that would, that could be like the connecting point between Raleigh and Durham businesses and [00:40:00] clubs and stuff happening along that, that corridor right there.
I think, I think it'll, it'll more, you know, connect the, the two cities a little bit better. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I, you're right, absolutely. Because, you know, there's, there's. To get to one, you gotta take 40 or go around and there's Yeah, it's a hike. It's a hike. You know, I mean, after being to Durham, like going like,
Liam: I live in Raleigh right now, but you know, after a party in Durham or something, it's like, all right, now I got a 45 minute drive.
Drive. Right? Yeah. Yeah.
Tim: Exactly. And then for those that just had a couple beers that would just wanna go listen to y'all, you know, you gotta,
Tony: but, but, but if you had a, a spot to, to, to stop at, let's say you come from Durham, right? And you wanted to stop along the way, someplace down 70 to get something to eat and chill for a minute, then it, you, it won't, it will break up your Yeah.
Your whole journey, right? Absolutely. Then you can chill, eat, and then you can go right home. Or a club, like you were saying,
Liam: like a club right there or something. Like a bar, a bar, bar,
Tony: bar, grill. Right. You can go, boom. Hit that real quick before you go home. All right. I didn't, yeah. I didn't feel like a 45 minute journey.
Yeah. It just felt like a 20 minute journey. Mm-hmm. Because I was freaking, I stopped for a minute, you know what I [00:41:00] mean? Yeah. That's what's needed out here. Yes.
Liam: I think it's, I think it'll come, I think the whole area is going to, like, in the next few decades, I mean, it, it's gonna be totally different here.
It has, it has to be, it like with, I mean, you've guys definitely seen how much construction's happening, how growing the roads. They're building developments even by, up, by your place in Wake Forest. I mean, it's getting nuts. Like there's like, there's a development that went up in like six months up near his place.
Wake Forest, it's thriving. So I mean, the whole area's growing. So the naturally the nightlife scene has to grow. Yes. And then you can't keep, keep, um, stifling it. Correct. And keeping it in one street on, in Glenwood or Correct one area of Durham. Because young, if you want young people to come here and continue to stay here, like you gotta have fun.
Yeah,
Tim: exactly. Or compare to a Seattle or, or Charlotte. I
Liam: mean, even Charlotte's Charlotte, like Charlotte's got the late night scene, they've got late night food, they've got the clubs that are willing to let house music come in and be, get, be played. I mean, like they're, they're the city [00:42:00] that's doing it the best way I think.
In the, and it feels alive
Tim: every time. We don't even have like a music yard.
Liam: No, we don't. Like, you know what I mean? Open. It's a standard. Cool.
Tim: That
Liam: looks like, you know, they're bringing in a defected party there, I think, next month. Yeah. I mean, it's an official defected party. I mean, that's like, that's legit the serious shit for North Carolina.
It is. Yeah. I mean, that's, you know, that's what needs to happen. There needs to be a community of people, club owners especially, that allow, that are open to letting that happen. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You
Tony: know, I think, I think, um, you know, hopefully we'll get there fairly soon. I mean, you know, um, it is happening in Charlotte.
There's a lot of money out there. You know, people, people, you know, that's one of the things, one of the advantages they have, right? I mean, a lot of money is financial capital and whatnot at the state, of
Liam: course.
Tony: Um, but, um, I think here in this city, in this area, there's a lot of, you know, a lot of people come down who want, who want that.
And the demand, demand may, you know, the demand is there, you know, hopefully it'll be met. Right. There's way you gotta look at it.
Liam: Yeah, [00:43:00] I think we've, we've got some, some ideas cooking up that we we're hoping, well, we'll, we'll probably see
Tony: you guys another five years and you'll be like, well, you know, we have these big events happening.
Who knows? Maybe we
Liam: own a club at that point. Maybe that's the solution. Yeah, but that's, that's the thing, right? You gotta,
Tony: you know, if you're starting off at this level, right? And you, and you want to, you have certain genes, aspirations, trying to get to that next level.
syrn: Yeah.
Tony: Whatever's missing you, you could probably be at that point in which, yo, this is what we're gonna do next.
I
Tim: know,
Tony: implement it. It's a good time for
Tim: you guys to kind of start where you are. Maybe now, of course, even like, remember Johann, who was such an astute thinker and almost like a number cruncher, it looks at a lot of data. He thinks Raleigh will kind of hit more like some parts of Durham in like two years.
I don't know. He, and it wasn't arbitrary the way he explained it, but just kind of as far as the acceptance of little. Hip factor, uh mm-hmm. Certain things that Durham may will always probably have an edge on. 'cause it absolutely, it's such an organically formed community. And I remember it back in the late nineties when I first moved here, and [00:44:00] Durham was gritty.
It was like a poor man's Detroit, you know? Mm-hmm. Um, not off the chain, but it was like, in some ways, for some it was scary ish. Mm-hmm. And, um, but then it just, you know, thanks to Research Triangle Park. Yeah. What brings so many people to Raleigh, this great job market, it's almost like, yeah. Palo Alto, San Jose, a little Austin, Texas, little bit of Nashville.
And we're kind of not as famous or big of a city as, but we're kind of in that dialogue. Mm-hmm. And when you have that many job opportunities, you have young, new talent that exactly 25-year-old kids making 180 KA year that, you know, started some amazing app with 30 of their friends. And like, that's kind of Raleigh, is that it's a youthful town.
It demands potentially,
Tony: and only that man, I, I, you know, the, the, the young guys that I see starting out today, you know, apart from you guys, other guys that are in our circle, you know, they're very, they're very ambitious about it. I know to say they're very ambitious and you can see that they're [00:45:00] very, um.
You know, um, um, they want to take it to the next level. And I believe that if they continue the road that they, they're going on, they, they boom, make shit happen. Right. Know what I'm saying? That's what I wanna see. Yeah. Know what I'm trying to say? You guys are hungry. You, you have your ear to sheet. These guys are out there, they're hitting the road.
They're grinding. Yeah. You know, and, and, um, when that happens, when you have enough people like that, you know, I believe in their talent. I believe in their skill. I believe in their ambition. You know, that they will make shit happen, man. You know? Yeah. That's, that's what. That's what he, you know, that's what I, um, yeah.
I see. You know what I'm trying, that's what I believe. So
syrn: I think it's important too, to give them opportunities. You have the ambition, you have the drive to do it. Mm-hmm. But they can, I mean, we all grow together. That's what I believe in, so. Mm-hmm. You know, you're only, they'll get as far as we give them opportunities.
And I think it's more and more important to give these young guys those opportunities because they're ambitious and driven and they can get dark. Sometimes they can deliver where the opposite may happen and they don't get any opportunities and things get gatekeep or, you know, things aren't [00:46:00] as shared as often.
But if we continue to give and like, give everyone that fared opportunity and give those opportunities and let them execute on their ambitions. Yeah. It's only gonna get bigger creating the platform. They know, like everyone should, everyone grows together. Yeah. Everyone writes together. Yeah. That is your
Tim: nature.
And that's how's nice. That's it should be. Yeah. That's how it should be.
Liam: It's just, we just need more, more spaces to do it in. Exactly. Yes. Yeah. And they
Tony: took away, you know, um, the party that was when you guys were doing the subterranean where he was throwing the subterranean. Mm-hmm. I couldn't believe how that party turned out that night.
Actually, I, you know, I was funny. Neither could I. Funny story, funny, funny story. Is that funny story is like the one you had before that, right? Yeah. I was gonna go to Right. And um. So, so I think it was on Afri. Were you throwing 'em on Friday or Saturday? I would always do 'em on Fridays. Okay. Because then I could just chill Saturday.
So I wanted to go that night. You know, you had, I think you had Lex on that night. Yeah. And there was open deck happening and I got there and I woke up to the fruit on Saturday and I go up to the door, I'm like, listen to [00:47:00] the music. This's A guy sitting in in front, I'm like, is a subterranean party tonight?
It was like, it was last night. I was like, ah, that's a massive one, dude. Yeah, dude. Red tripped. I was heartbroken, bro. But then the la the next one that you did, the last one we
Liam: had Marshall and Adam doing a back to back and close out the night. Yeah, that was a, they was a fun night. Really fun. Durham.
Showed up and all that too, probably. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that was a super fun, I liked, I really liked that party, but it's great that, you know, the club that it's turned into Club era mm-hmm. Is such a great spot for the queer community in Durham. Yeah, absolutely. I would love if we could find like another basement spa spot like that.
I don't know of any in the area between Raleigh or Durham. Yeah. But like that, like grungy dungeon vibe was so great. I went to a couple of the kinetic audio parties when they were throwing 'em down there. Yeah. It's such a great spot. It's such a great kind of like, tube of concrete, you know? It's, it's perfect.
But, um, that's nice. Yeah, I would love, I mean, you know, I just got back from Chicago and like I would some clubs like that, like some of the clubs I went to when I was out there. Some spots like that would just be like, I mean, you know, [00:48:00] it's, it sounds like a no
Tim: brainer.
Liam: Yeah. I mean, it's that, well also that's the birthplace of house music.
Like, you know, it's like they have like the best, some of the best clubs I've ever been to, but. Some of these spots that I went to out there, I was like, damn it. Like we had this in dur Raleigh. Like this is what we need. It was at the
Tony: Arc Festival. Yes. Arc Festival. Yeah. How, how was that?
Liam: Man? Super fun.
This is my second year going. Um, I don't think I'll be missing one in the future. I mean, because it's just, you know, it's, it's so great to go and just see so many thousands of people that are. As big of a fan as you are mm-hmm. About guarding house music. Yeah. I mean, you know, of course there are people there.
They had some pretty big commercial names there this year. So you have people in the crowd who are just there, just, you know, put it on social media, whatnot. Yeah. But you know, I went to one of the after parties, me and my girlfriend went to, um, was like I was telling you guys before we started recording was like.
DJ Heather DJ Sneak, and, um, this father-daughter duo named Floor Plan closing out the night. I mean, like, remember really good, like classic house music. Some of the best DJing I think I've ever seen. Wow. Yeah. A DJ Sneak was like in the [00:49:00] mix with like four decks up at once. Like, you know, just completely dissecting a track and building something new right on the fly.
Like, like I've never seen that before in my life. Like I'll show you a video after we, after we're done. Oh, nice. But it was so cool to see that that's, um, and then, you know, just getting to see like some legends on the stage, like Honey Dijon, Derek Carter. Yeah. Um, and I got to see some people that, some producers, DJs who, you know, are European that never really come to the States.
Mm-hmm. Nice. So it was just really, it's, it's such a cool nexus for house music. Um. Mm-hmm. Everyone, all of you guys should go. It's so much fun. Thank you. Yeah. And North Carolina showed out. I mean, we stayed with a big group of friends from Raleigh, Durham and Charlotte. We met up with other people from that were, um, from Durham, Raleigh, and Charlotte Wow.
That were there and just, you know, everyone's going and seeing their own different things. But yeah, it was, it was really fun. Really good time. Really. I, every time I go to Chicago for arc, it's, I kind of come back with like, all right. Like, you know, inspired. Inspired, yeah, exactly. I come back heavily inspired, heaven inspired from a party throwing perspective, but also as of [00:50:00] course, producing and DJing music.
Yeah.
Tony: You mentioned the after parties, a lot of after parties. Oh, yeah.
Liam: That's, that's, I'm exhausted. We went to one every, we went to one every single night. I mean, because the after parties are so great, they put, um, basically everyone that's on the lineup plays at an after party. Mm-hmm. And the, the lineups are curated very well.
Tim: Yeah. The
Liam: venues are incredible. Whether it be like, at some of these, you know, they have massive warehouses with Yes. With, you know, the top-notch sound and top-notch production. Yeah. Mm-hmm. But then we also went to, like, I went to Smart Bar for the first time, which is in the basement of this old theater mm-hmm.
Called Metro Metro. They were throwing the DJ sneak party upstairs, and then downstairs they were, it was this club called Smart Bar where they're doing a completely separate party, like some of the best sound I've ever heard in my life. Wow. Yeah. I mean, just like, damn, just top to bottom. They, they do it right.
I love
syrn: when they just split up the rooms, like, oh, yeah. Yeah. I love that. I mean, that's,
Liam: most of those after parties, there's like main room, side room where there's a full other party going on. Yeah. Wow. I love, I mean, we love that The Fruit could do something like that. They've got the theater, they've got the main room.
They do do that. I think for, [00:51:00] um, for Slingshot. They do multiple parties happening at once.
Tim: Yeah.
Liam: But that's like, it's such a great way to kind of split up the sound. It really is. You know, you get different vibes in different rooms. Yes. It was so much fun. It was a really great time. Yeah.
Tim: Oh, that sounds amazing.
You guys
Liam: definitely need to come. Wow. Yeah. I gotta check that out. You sold it, man. That's, yeah. I mean, I saw you, you saw you guys dance at at New York. Like you fit right in. I mean, you know, it's, it's fun.
Tony: Definitely, I mean, um, been up to, haven't been to Chicago actually, surprisingly. I've been to Detroit, been to movement out there, but not Chicago.
I really want to go to movement as well. Yeah. We had um,
Tim: um,
Tony: Carolina turns
Tim: out for that too. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Um,
Tony: um, Johan and Ka were out there. Yep. It's long ago. And, um, yeah, movement's, movement's pretty, I mean, same vibe actually, when I went to movement it was in around 2001, so I had the same like Detroit, like just warehousey parties after parties mm-hmm.
And stuff like that. You know, underground,, . or mu tech in Montreal. Montreal. Oh, cool. Yeah. Yeah. I think I've heard of that one. Mm-hmm. Mu tech is in Montreal, which been out there, small artsy. It's is sponsored by the Montreal University. Um, and they, you know, [00:52:00] through this whole festival out there and whatnot, it's in Canada.
Nice. Okay. So, um, and, but we saw some, I think we saw Robert
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Tony: out, Robert Hood out there too. The guy from floor planning. Mm-hmm. He was talking about, um, he was out there, Robert Hood. Um. Yeah, man. You know, some of these, some of these festivals, man, they, they're huge.
Liam: Yeah. They do it. I mean, they just, like, you could tell that there's like a, a level of care, you know, to the, about the music mm-hmm.
Or the crowd. I mean, it's, it's, they really do it. Right. I'd love to have something like that out here. Mm-hmm. Maybe, maybe it doesn't need to be like a huge multi-day festival, but just something directed at house and techno music where, you know, we could bring a really great lineup. Yeah. Some really great sound.
Yeah. At a cool venue. A poor
Tim: man's hop scotch. Yeah. Literally. Oh yeah. Well, I'm saying that, but that's kind of a good under, but I don't, I don't know if that's the, because that's, that's kind of takes over the, all the downtown and there's so many options, but yeah. Those things are awesome.
Tony: Mm-hmm.
That's happened, already happen. Been to
Tim: four of those man and they're great. And you just, you [00:53:00] discover so many cool bands. You mm-hmm. I such a string driven guy, but there was like a horn band and they were so sick that it just, um. You know, I just, I followed 'em every, every day. Oh, they're here. They're at Kings.
They're Neptunes there. And, um, yeah, just you, you, it enhances. And that's in the alternative realm sort of, but mm-hmm. Something like that would be nice. Mm-hmm. I think.
Tony: Oh, the slingshot festivals coming up in October. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Shout out to the slingshot guys. Mm-hmm. But they, um, most of their stuff is mostly like creative producing music, stuff like that.
Yeah. I don't even know
Liam: how you describe a lot of it, but I mean, I went a couple years ago and it was like phenomenal. I mean, yeah. This, the range of acts that they bring is, is really great. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's not just specific techno warehouse, it's, it's all over the map. All over. Yeah.
Tim: It sounds like the Mo Moog fest that they had in dur, remember we talked about that You can have kind, I think l
Liam: is playing a, this year she's playing, this year she's playing
Tony: a l playing Alec Lec LA's playing.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Um, but yeah, they, they're, they're more [00:54:00] kind of on the creative production side of different types of sounds and music. It was interesting. It's good. Good to know. I mean, it's good that derm has something that, you know, sounds like my IQ
Liam: thought out. Have you been to No. Should definitely go enlightening me on this one.
Definitely go. I mean, the artistry that they booked for that really for that festival is topnotch. I mean, wow. Just, I, I, the year I went, I saw some musical acts where it was like, I don't even know. So it's almost like I'm never gonna be able to achieve this level of artistry. Wow. I mean, it's really, it's really great.
Yeah. It's, it's very, it's true music musicians, you know. Oh, speaking, speaking
Tony: to the guy who throws it, his name is Kai. Shout out to Kai. He, um used to, he was doing I think he was part of the Moog Fest when it was out here. He was the one throwing it, and then he had an he came up with a slingshot festival, so.
Mm-hmm. I didn't know it kind of came from
Tim: a similar foundation of mm-hmm. 'cause that was special. I, you know, I forget some of the acts that were at, but they were just kinda like OG names Yeah. And
Tony: stuff. [00:55:00] And that's, that's, we need, we need more of that out here though, man. You know, I mean, and I know they have the breakaway fest, which is out there.
Yeah, it's coming up too. It's,
Liam: I mean, you know, it's not my, the art, the lineup for that one's not really my cup of tea, but it's not, not, I can't knock it, you know? Of course. It's, it's, it's necessary. I think you have to have some kind of a festival like that in North Carolina. That's the start that's doing through that is how we get Speedway, of
Tim: course, Carolina.
Yeah, of course. It's a pretty big ass place to have some, which is kind of unique.
Liam: But through that is how we can someday, you know, be, make North Carolina a destination for electronic music and then we can start bringing the acts that, you know, we all wanna see at some point. Yeah. Yeah. So I think, you know, it might not be my cup of tea, but it's necessary.
Tim: Yeah, no, it'd be nice to pull North Carolina to like, you know, we're kind of. Right. We're a pretty legit southern state, but to kind of have enough minds come together and kind of make it a known quantity. And it's
Liam: happening. I mean, it's all over the state. There's, there's little, I mean, I've, I listened to your guys' podcast with Brooke and mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm. You know, [00:56:00] it's, you guys mentioned about Keith shouted out sound waves. I love them. I played a lot of their parties down in Wilmington. Yes. Yep. Um, Shayna is a good friend of mine. Um mm-hmm. And yeah, I mean, there's, there's collectives all over the state making it happen. Yeah. I don't, maybe, I don't know what it's gonna take for it to like.
Maybe everyone coming together somehow. Diligence and resilience and time consistency. Yeah, it's
Tim: consistency
syrn: more
Tim: than anything. And then spreading the word in the gospel. I don't know. I'm pretty good at that too. Like I'm run into people, I'm like, Hey, there's a great way I, this is just
Tony: to this guy. He'll spread it
Tim: now.
Yeah. Yeah. I'm getting that. I kind have my network of friends that aren't even, this is plugged in as much, but you know, whenever I bring 'em to, and I've usually curated it 'cause I'm kinda like trying to think of selling it and I'm like, okay, I want you to come to this one if you can and mm-hmm. Let 'em know months in advance 'cause they're, mm-hmm.
We've got their professional gigs and families and we might live in a big house in Woodell and they gotta like think about, okay, we're going to Durham, let plan, but it is fun to continue to turn them or, or even just kinda like, show off that there's more than they might know. Mm-hmm. Yeah. [00:57:00] For people that have been plugged in in their previous big city.
Life that they came from, and maybe they miss it to an extent, but they probably only do like one thing every three months, you know? Mm-hmm. But it's, it, it's nice to, to see their joy.
Liam: I have a lot of friends who, um, you know, they're like, where'd you go last night? I'm like, your pictures were like, where, what warehouse was that?
And they had no idea that that's even happening. Yeah, it's happening all the time here. Yes. I mean, it's, it's so cool that, I mean, maybe not cool, but. It's, it's people that people don't understand that this is, these parties are getting thrown.
syrn: Yes. Yeah. I have the same thing with when we were at Wilco for the day party.
Yeah. One of my friends. Like, where was that? That looked really fun. Yeah. I was like, in Wilco. That's not even a regular bar A few months ago, but Yeah. Yeah. But still, I mean, like you wouldn't have expect in the middle of Raleigh. Correct. The beautiful Was that a Ashley's party? Same party. That's a cool, I saw a lot of you.
They recommended it
Tim: to a friend. Um, kinda my age range. She brought like four of her girlfriends. [00:58:00] Yeah. And you, she, they love to dance. They all like take private, so, but they it was funny, they panned, I think I saw a few of you guys. Yeah. She had a grandma. I was like, fuck man, I missed this one. I was moving.
He my roommate.
syrn: Yeah. I brought my
Liam: roommate. He was, he doesn't go to
Tim: stuff like that at all. That's awesome. That's so great. That's a perfect one. I was in Chicago. Dave party is a sellable thing and everybody that goes Has has fun. I love it.
syrn: I mean, I think. Personally too, I've been, I've been leaning more towards like this kind of sober partying kind of lifestyle.
Yeah. It does foster that more, you know, and day party, like you said, it's been day partying has been fostering that, drinking more for me. Um, yeah. And it's, it's nice. Like even if you did drink during the day, like it's, it ends at a reasonable time mm-hmm. Where you have food. Like afterwards I had, you know, pizza from Oakwood, which is also Yeah.
Oakwood some of the best pizza I know. And I'm like, I'm going home. I'm done. I had my flaw and I've got exhausted my energy. I had food and I'm ready to go to bed. And I think it's just a really [00:59:00] great way to get people out instead of telling them that you have to be out late till 12 three. Yeah. It's okay.
Like, I get it. We all need our sleep and you know, we can't, it's not sustainable as we get older. And I think it's really nice to encourage partying in like daytime spaces or just other third party spaces where you don't need to be there past midnight. Right. You can have just much fun and you have healthy
Tim: fatigue.
You
syrn: just need to kind of show people how you do that. Yeah. It's like going a
Tim: football game. If you're at a college you know, you get, it's a day thing. It's not, but it's also nice you got it out of the way. Yeah. Go home and take a nap and you get satisfied and you're satisfied and you go.
Tony: How do you guys feel about that trend?
Like, you think that's just gonna continue with the day parties party? Absolutely. Coffee bar parties and freaking bodega parties and people. Right. I mean, it's becoming more,
Liam: I think it's, I mean, obviously like I've seen some, like, you know, partying in like a laundromat or partying like, you know, or the elevator.
In the elevator elevator. It's like, I think some of those where it's like, I think you can still, A party doesn't have to be thrown anywhere. Like, I still think it can [01:00:00] be like, you know, there still should be some thought. And it's like, all right, we don't, we don't need to put a party in this pizza shop right now.
Right. You know, I think it's, it's fun. But then I think the issue with those people do that and then call it a rave. Like, it's like that's, yeah, that's not a rave. That's not ave that's a little backlash. Putting a DJ into a Baker bakery and like calling it a rave. It's like, nah, it's. But I do think that, you know, as we've all I'm sure heard that, you know, younger generations aren't drinking much less.
Yeah, that's right. So I think, um, I think Abso sober partying, partying is absolutely gonna continue to happen. Yeah. I mean, it's, it,
Tony: you know, it's becoming more and more popular. And then you have other, a lot of people coming out just in, um, Greensboro, they have that spot out there that they do parties during the day and whatnot.
Those are always packed. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm trying to say? Yeah. So those day parties are taking off and Yeah. I mean, I agree, man. I think more and more people would prefer. You know, weekend dates. Yeah. Especi weather's nice. You know, or
Liam: even, I mean the when I was in Chicago, he, he did that, um, melodic and Afro house party at s Yeah, that, and we ended that, that one ended at 1111.
And I think even doing [01:01:00] something like that would be great. Starting at like early evening, dusk time, and then done at 11. So it's like, yeah, you can come out and party a little bit, even if you're not drinking, just come and dance, but then you're home in bed before midnight. Yeah. It's something easy like that.
Right. Doesn't have to be a, like, all right, we're gonna go hard until 2:00 AM or 3:00 AM and suffer on our Monday. Exactly. Seven in the morning. You, so I did the subterranean on Fridays. I could have all Saturdays. Cool. I like Fridays for reason. You also gotta have people to show up, man. Yeah, you do. Of course.
Tony: You absolutely do. You know, that's, that's the, that's the tricky part, right? That's tricky. I mean, you know, trying to get people like this past weekend when they had the day party that weekend. Monday was the holiday. So a lot of people were, extra people were out, that's why. Yeah. Labor Day Weekend, the last
Liam: one I went to at, at Wilco was when we were, I think it was Memorial Day weekend.
Yeah. Packed. Packed to the broom. Yeah. It's fun.
Tim: They are fun, man. They're they, they've, they've been great and they've had 'em in different places over the years and it's good to see some of those old guys and then bringing in Ms. Ashley and Jefferson, who's, you know, it's a cool dude and I get to see him just [01:02:00] on regular Wilco nights and
Liam: I was told that they used to throw some house music events at one of, at Mollino they did.
So there was a restaurant called
Tim: Babylon that my owner, um, Samad, I wish I was here for, that owned, and he had Mosaic. You probably heard this in Delore. I know Tony's heard me talk about it, but where Halon is now. But he was way ahead of the curve, I mean. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Moroccan guy came to NC State and just loved house music, international stuff, and he had a lot of, a lot of talent and Marshall Jones and.
DJ Nugs. There's like a whole slew of guys that kind of Keith Ward Day parties, but they all were there, so it was kinda like credit to, to him and mm-hmm. I've given him a shout out and I'll do it again, you know? Thank you Samad for starting that. And then, yeah, so they were, started it at our restaurant and it was kind of this little pool party and like at the end of the year we got a little slap on the wrist from the fire marshal.
'cause it was, he's got this beautiful Moroccan pool in the middle. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And so you would get in there on a hot summer day. It's in July, but it's not a pool for summer. You [01:03:00] got bare feet people going into inside the bar. So it's kinda like a naivete. He's, he doesn't wanna lose a beautiful restaurant.
Of course, you know, the occasional party, um, that's house music based, um, you know, but they were kind of relative to Raleigh in say 2015. Which feels like it's not that long ago, but it's like, I can attest the team wasn't time. Yeah. It was all right. I mean, you could find a few things every night, but you had to really be tuned in.
And they weren't all great or successful, but those were, those were kick ass. Yeah. Mm-hmm. You would've liked that vibe too. I would've
Tony: loved to. It was,
Tim: it was ahead of its time and it made Raleigh cooler.
Tony: Yeah. Yeah. Well, um you know, um, I would like to see you guys, you know, continue your upward, upward movements, man.
Any, you know, um, like final thoughts you wanna add in regards to where you guys wanna take your, your next steps. What are your dreams? What are your contributions? Are you trying to provide, you know? Mm-hmm. What do you, what do you see for the future for yourselves, man?
Liam: Um, I think we want to continue just to [01:04:00] provide a platform for, yeah.
For, you know, the music that we love in this area. And, you know, like what he was saying earlier, the guys who are just starting out give them a way to either play their music or just DJ in front of mm-hmm. Other people that are other also fans of the music. Um, and then, I don't know. I mean, we just want to keep providing those opportunities.
Maybe, maybe we'll get a, a venue space of our own someday. Man, I'm about to be an investor. I mean, hey, like we're, we're, that's, we we're keeping our eyes to the ground in that regard, because I know you should, like we, I mentioned briefly earlier is that that's probably, I mean, like. That's probably gonna have to happen at some point.
Yeah. Someone's gonna have to get us some kind of venue space. So I think we definitely, you know, that might be on the road, but I think we just wanna continue to learn. We're still, we're still young in this game, so I think we wanna just continue to soak up all the information and, and skills we can from all the more experienced people around us.
Yeah. What
Tony: about you, Cy?
syrn: Yeah, of course. I, along the same lines, and always also just giving [01:05:00] like good, meaningful experiences. Making sure that we're consistently delivering on those meaningful experiences. Because I think at the end of the day, that's why people come, that's why, you know, people will approach us or, or you too and be like, yo, I really like, they'll say, I really love your set, or I really loved the event and it it's because of a single experience or a single moment they had.
And I think that's really the biggest focus. Mm-hmm. So ensuring that any events, whatever we throw caters to that and like provides the environment where that happens. That's the key. And mm-hmm. The more we focus on that, the more we do it, I think, you know, the better we'll get. And I just want to continue doing that.
And there's always just like. Helping out the newer, younger DJs coming out, helping them grow, sharing them our knowledge, and they, of course, have knowledge to give to us, to impart. To us, it's like, it doesn't matter how old or young you are, new or fresh and DJing, we all have knowledge to share and I'm always open to new knowledge, always open to learning, to new ways of thinking.
But yeah, at the end, just giving back to this [01:06:00] community and making sure they have like a. Thriving nightlife. Mm-hmm. I think that's the biggest thing is just having a thriving, fun nightlife. I think a lot of people will want that. Like when you mentioned like a lot of young professionals coming in town.
Yeah. That's part of their like, you know, their lifestyle is like, you know, you work this hard, even if they're making so much money, whatever. Yeah. You work this hard day nine to five, sometimes even nine to seven, you come out and then you're like, where, where do I go? Expend house energy if there's nowhere to go, and nowhere to transform that energy into a good experience.
Right. It gets stuck inside you and mm-hmm. That goes back to Somatic House, kind of the why we were named Somatic as well. A good name. You know, so that's, that's the
Tony: key. Yeah. Nice. Well I appreciate you guys, man, being on the show. Thank you for having us. Big, big fans of you guys really are wanna see, you know, continue to do your thing.
Yeah. And you know.
Tim: I mean, I can't say anymore. And it's just it's beautiful to witness your friendship, your collaboration. It's just that's inspiring and your energy and drive and you guys are gonna do big things and we, we all get to benefit [01:07:00] from it.
Tony: Let them know where you guys find you guys. It's coming. We've got
Liam: our Instagrams, I think it's Somatic House Co. Um, that's probably where you'll find where we have to, we get a little better, better about updating it. Neither of us are really, and
Tony: your events coming up, you know, make sure that they know where to go.
Yeah. So
Liam: we've got, um, this month we've got our big party Sound Factory at the end of the month. Um, it's at the portal in Raleigh. Okay. We'll be announcing that this week. Good place. It's a super cool place. I love that venue. Shout out to the portal. Those guys are awesome. Awesome. Um, and what else have we got this month?
syrn: We got our open deck to coming up on this Saturday. Mm-hmm. So for all guys, you do once a month open decks. Right? We try to
Liam: at least, at least once a month so they can check your, your somatic
syrn: house space for that check our somatic house space and we're working with another space potentially, so that we'll announce, we'll be on the low once we confirm It's into two weeks, you know, obviously we'll see.
Keep an eye out on the page, but yeah. Yeah, a lot of events coming up soon. There's no intent to stop. We're gonna keep going. We're gonna keep going until the winter, so. Yeah.
Tony: Good. Well, appreciate you [01:08:00] guys again. All right. Thank you. I know, man. Thank you guys. Appreciate you. Well with that. Hey Joe, bring that beat back, Joe.