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Motorcycle Safety and Awareness
Welcome to think bike, the podcast about all things motorcycle and the voice of motorcycle safety and awareness in Alberta. Think bike is brought to you by the Alberta Motorcycle Safety Society powered by Moto Canada. Let's ride Canada wide. Your host is Leanne Langlois.
Liane:Hey, everybody. Welcome to the last episode of season four. I honestly cannot believe it is already the last episode of the season. I'm joined, of course, by Bryn Griffiths where we're going to recap some things and talk about how this season is. Hey, Bryn.
Bryn:Hi. How are you?
Liane:I'm good. How are you?
Bryn:I'm a little hoarse. It's that time of year, you know, so I need to throw a lozengar here.
Liane:We probably do that. We'll we'll be talking a little bit. You've talking lots lately and you're busy. Yeah.
Bryn:Yeah. Yeah.
Liane:Yeah. Okay. Let's get into this a
Bryn:little Let's do it.
Liane:So we were doing a little pre chat before this about our statistics this year.
Bryn:Yeah.
Liane:And you you had mentioned you thought it was like a really really bad year.
Bryn:Yeah. Yeah. Did. And then you're the one who brought up the the point that you know what? This is kinda where we're we're been at over the past four years with these numbers.
Bryn:The only difference is a lot of it seems to be happening in the city and not as rural as it has over the past three years.
Liane:Yeah. It's, like, I went back in our stats to 2021. So 2021, we saw twenty fatalities that we recorded. Twenty twenty two, we saw twenty two. Twenty twenty three, we saw twenty.
Liane:Twenty twenty four, we see twenty two again. So it's very on on par, which is I mean, thankfully, it's not more. Would we like to see less? Absolutely. Again, in the grand scheme of things with the number of motorcycles on the road, it is still a very small percentage.
Liane:But again, we'd rather see as minimal fatalities as possible. But you are correct, Brynn, where the last few years, it's been really rural. The problem has been out the countryside. This year, the urban in city, collisions have topped the in the country collisions.
Bryn:Well, the last one in Edmonton that I can recall was on Grove Road, which is a tough road to drive in a vehicle like a car, let alone a motorcycle. Yes. People like the speed on that road too. Right? The speed is a factor even in in cars.
Liane:Anybody in Edmonton really likes that road. It's windy. It it's like, oh, we have a corner. But the problem is is it can be a little challenging. It can be a little tight.
Liane:And if you are not a seasoned rider with some really good skills under you, you may get yourself into trouble, which is exactly what happened to this young 21 year old man who hit the center cement median that is, you know, is a taller than the bike. And unfortunately, it launched him over the median into oncoming traffic where he collided. His body collided with a with a truck. Yeah. Rough.
Liane:Absolutely rough. In fact, a lot of the collisions this year, let's let's just call it out. We're used to a 75% rider error. We're at 80% this year. That like our community definitely needs to do better.
Liane:We had about eight single vehicle collisions and 14 multi vehicle collisions, but still 80% of the responsibility is falling on our own communities. So even in those multi vehicle collisions, only four of them were deemed to be the driver's fault Yeah. Allegedly.
Bryn:Yep.
Liane:So what do what do we do? And the ages, let me tell you, every fatality that we tracked this year was between the age of 20 and 59.
Bryn:Okay. Yeah.
Liane:Young. Too young.
Bryn:Yeah. I wish there was a way to, as you said right off the top, fix it so there would be no accidents, but, you know, it's the same with drivers. Right? You you'd like to see no vehicle accidents at all but it's just not realistic enough to You can think that way but it proves time and time again that it just doesn't work that way.
Liane:Yeah, exactly. And I mean, this is a great segue to go into maybe some of our favorite episodes because I remember when we were talking with the chief of police in Edmonton, Chief McPhee had noted that this isn't a motorcycle only thing. This is there's been an increase in pedestrian fatality collisions within the city of Edmonton itself. So there's definitely a problem within city streets. Calgary is not left out of this.
Liane:They've had their fair share of motorcycle fatality collisions especially later in the year. Edmonton seemed to be on the news constantly in June with the five.
Bryn:Yep.
Liane:Calgary, for lack of a better way of saying this, picked it up later in the season and had quite a few that came through towards the end of the year. So it's it's pretty evenly split between the two cities and that just shows that we have problems. The age is another part of it where what we've been seeing and the the word on the street because of course privacy laws prevent us from knowing all of the details of the people who are deceased. But there seems to be a lot of young riders, new riders, maybe not fully licensed out doing things that are beyond their skill level and getting themselves into trouble. And with that, I would like to say to all of the seasoned riders out there, whether you're a quote, quote hooligan or not, and we all have our moments, even myself, when you're out with new riders, maybe dial that back and help them improve to be a good rider versus putting them into situations that might end up with family members that are grieving for a very long time.
Bryn:Another factor too is both Edmonton and Calgary have increased in population. Over the last two years, both cities around a 50,000 people. That's more other types of vehicles on the road. And maybe they're from and the other thing about the, the size growth in both Edmonton and Calgary is a lot of that's coming from Ontario and British Columbia. So they're just kinda learning where these particular roads go.
Bryn:Right? They're not completely sure of where they're going. So as you're you're trying to figure out, I gotta make a left hand turn in 800 meters, and maybe you're not looking at what's a hundred meters in front of you. There's I I could see that maybe that might be part of the problem, but all I know is this. Trying to get to zero is a wonderful target.
Bryn:I just don't think we're ever gonna get there, but I just think it's been a really difficult difficult year in the two cities this year in particular since the last previous three years. It's been rural, and, people just wanted to get out on the wide open road after going through the pandemic, I guess. But, you know, it's the stats you can you can turn stats a million ways. Right? I obviously do sports for a living, so I I could I could break down hockey stats till the cows come home.
Bryn:So I like to try to figure out why. I don't think we'll ever really truly know why things have worked out the way they have this year compared to the previous three.
Liane:I mean, they like I said, the only thing that we can do is go off of what the alleged causes are, which is a lot of speed, a lot of inexperience, a lot of, you know, not so smart moves.
Bryn:Bad judgment.
Liane:Bad judgment. I've seen a lot of crazy drivers out there too. You're right, Brynn. It's like that influx of people and just watching people cut across three lanes of the Henday because, oh my god, there's my exit.
Bryn:I know.
Liane:You know? Like I said, could be
Bryn:newcomers to the cities. Right? Same thing on Stoney Trail.
Liane:But if you miss your turn, there's another one up there and your GPS will recalculate.
Bryn:Nobody nobody thinks like that. They just don't. Right? Especially if you're new to the cities. Right?
Bryn:If you're new to the cities, you don't know that there's another turn coming. You don't know how to get back. You you don't think that way. And I'm not But
Liane:is everything so time sensitive that you have to put everybody else's life at risk?
Bryn:Yes, people do it all the time. I see it all the time. And it's not just this year, it's forever. Just Yeah, People don't
Liane:think that.
Bryn:No, I agree with you. People don't think that in that nanosecond that they have to make a decision, they don't think about it. I'm convinced because the numbers are bad all
Liane:the
Bryn:No, it's
Liane:possibly true. I know I've been daydreaming out on like the Henday and I'm like, oh yeah, was supposed to turn there.
Bryn:I just run a kilometer.
Liane:So I know I'll go to the next one and that's fine. But so yeah, you're right. Other people mean and so now I'm five minutes later than I would have been going to the place I was going. I I'm not gonna stress out about it and people aren't going to be stressed out if you're late because you missed a turn. Just like courtesy, courtesy, and patience.
Bryn:People are in a rush to do everything now. They just are. And I think they always have been. I just think it's more more prevalent now than ever before. I just I see things go on in front of me while behind the wheel, I wonder, what are you thinking?
Bryn:Well, chances are they probably weren't. Yeah. And you bring up a good point. I've gone a kilometer or two, and I go, wow. I just went through four sets of lights.
Bryn:I don't really remember going through those four sets of lights. And I'm not the only one that does that, but I I asked a prominent psychologist this question. What if a motorcyclist came out of the, out of the right hand side of the road and I'm in that zone? He says your natural instinct and your gifts that you have, and we all have them, would be to, to pick up on it. But sometimes that one second or that two seconds, that's all it takes.
Bryn:That's the difference. But you will react if somebody if a pedestrian steps off the curb or a motorcyclist comes off of one of the side roads and you're in that daze. It's, it's he said he felt it was a form of epilepsy actually where your brain just checks out. Just sorry. Hypnot hypnosis is what he said.
Bryn:You go into a hypnosis.
Liane:Oh,
Bryn:I
Bryn:see
Liane:He
Bryn:said it's a fine line between epilepsy and his hip like I said, he was a doctor. I'm a radio guy. Like, so I just follow along. That's all I can tell you.
Liane:But anyway Motorcycle rider.
Bryn:All yeah. All I know is this. Yeah. We thought it was a really bad year, and then as we looked at the stats, it became rather obvious to us that it was a city issue this year and not that really. So, you know what, Neil?
Liane:Hits the news a lot
Bryn:more. Absolutely. Because that's where the news markets are. Right?
Liane:Like nowhere are we saying that all the rural fatalities are not as important they are. We do like to track the trends but it was that shift in the in the trend and I mean, it's still trending to my own community needs to do so much better. But again, at the end of the day, our hearts go out to everybody who has lost a loved one this year. We're we're grateful it's not more. We wish it was less and yeah.
Bryn:Well, let's just let's keep targeting zero. That's all I can say. Right? Hey. Do you know what?
Bryn:And it's funny. You're talking about shows that kinda stood out for me this year. Yes. And there was a real trend for me, and I don't know if it's because we were all the way through the entire summer. We were hearing these stats and they weren't great and that kinda thing.
Bryn:But it just seemed that it was the the year of the escapism episodes for me. They kind of caught my attention. Do you want me to give you my list right now and then you
Liane:can give me Yes, please. Okay.
Bryn:So, the last one we just had was a prominent one and that was Simon Edwards. He's talking about the Darien Gap. This is what I know an episode kind of struck me is because the first thing I did after listening to the episode was I had to download and Google the Darien Gap to see what it was. Right? And it's shocking to me.
Bryn:I was reading all the stats and all the numbers and looking at the old all the topography and the geography and all the graphes that that that that I could. I don't know how I I don't know how he did it. I don't know how he drove through there, but he did it. It's a great episode. His stories were fantastic.
Bryn:Another one that stood out for me once again. It was the special tour through Ireland. Do you remember that one? Yeah. That was Larry.
Liane:Yeah. Larry.
Bryn:And that was in August if I'm not mistaken. Larry was fantastic, I thought.
Liane:Yeah. August. Yeah. It was such a such an what a great adventure with your kid.
Bryn:Oh, man. Yeah. That that was great. And then the other one was the adventure author, is Jeremy Jeremy
Liane:Jeremy Cracker?
Bryn:Yeah. Yeah. So those were three of my top five episodes and they were all about the adventure of going out and and you know, feeling the breeze blow through your hair or on your face however. I don't I I'm a driver of a car so I don't get that. I have to put my hand Hand
Liane:in your hair.
Bryn:I gotta put my hand out to the sunroof. Yeah. Yeah. That's just as close as I get. So I'm envious of you.
Bryn:And then the two other episodes that that struck me, you mentioned the chat with Edmonton Police Service, Dale McPhee. I'm always fascinated to see how law enforcements view, riders and drivers constantly. I love to hear what their plan of attack is going to be in terms of what they do believe is a hot button and how they wanna try to fix that. Maybe it's safety. Maybe it's noise.
Bryn:We've heard that one around Edmonton for a long, long time. But I enjoyed the chat with Dale, and that was back in July. And then the other one, and it was a tough one, it was, inspiration through loss. Was a big one for me because I'm always amazed by people who've gone through tragic deaths or close calls and it's changed them. Right?
Bryn:And how they don't quit or give up. They get right back on the bike, get right back behind the wheel, get right back on the horse. They get right back to doing whatever they they do that they love. I'm always I'm always blown away by people like that and I thought that Graham's conversation that was that was early September was fantastic. Well,
Liane:and there's one thing that I wonder if people picked up on when it came to Graham's episode is the week before when we had Brad Harter on for Close Calls and I asked him what was one of the worst experiences and I had no idea how he was gonna answer this. And he essentially gave us a movie trailer without mentioning names, without really getting too deep into it. He was the person on the bike with his wife as a passenger behind Graham and Aaron when all of that happened. And so you got kind of a prequel the week before to the next week we're actually talking about this absolute devastating loss for Graham and how he navigated through that in his own close call to still be out there and still get on a bike and still have the love for that. And yeah, I agree with you on having the the Edmonton Police Service Chief on, you know, that paired nicely with season two when we had the Calgary police service chief on, Neufeld who's still there.
Liane:The interesting key difference between the two of them is chief Neufeld's a rider and chief McPhee isn't. So you can see some of the distinctions between the two. It doesn't mean that Chief McPhee doesn't see the the concerns, he just sees it in a very different way than Chief Neufeld did and I very much appreciated him coming on the show. For me, the adventures were great as well. But being a safety advocate and having all of these people come on this year about surviving a major collision, cross border incidents.
Liane:Well, surviving a major collision with Jeff Howlett at the start of the year. Yep. Cross border incidents with Sue and Chris Mitchell. You know, deer are unpredictable. You know, just close calls.
Liane:Like, all these things about lessons that were learnt and what we can teach other people to make them think that I I kinda do that. I gotta make sure I check myself in that situation so that doesn't happen to me and how they come through with that. And I attribute these stories back to last year in season three when Aaron came on and he was the first one to to do one of those with us. And, you know, so getting more into these stories. But my one of my highlights is, you know, I'm a woman.
Liane:I started this organization. You have a woman who started One Broken Biker in Alberta. And, like, where do these where do these women who have set the stage for us before us come from and looking at the history of it. And to have Alicia Elving come on at the start of the year, who's Moto Lady, who's somebody that I've known of for over a decade, who is an influencer in The US and celebrates women and the history of women in motorcycling and how that's moved us forward. I remember, you know, being one of the few women, you know, who is really into being on my own bike.
Liane:And I've had some amazing women in the Edmonton area who have shown me I can do it myself. And, know, shout out to Clinda and Carol and and they're they're just amazing role models and mentors. I hope to be the same for women coming up and just just seeing how ridership has grown with women throughout the year and independently. Like, we can we can sometimes service our own bikes or, you know, we we're just right there side by side racing, servicing our bikes, you know, being able to do all these things and that comes from somewhere. So yeah, I mean, it's been so much, so much going on this season.
Liane:I hope everybody kinda clicked on the YouTube link in the show notes for the episode with Simon Edwards about the story of riding through the Darien Gap because I rewatched it after we recorded with Simon and yeah. It's it's still I understand why he says, so would you ever do it again? Nope.
Bryn:Yeah. He was pretty quick about that. Didn't hesitate. No.
Liane:Not at all. And he's like, would you? He said, nope. Don't do it. Yeah.
Liane:You know, put your bike on a ship and go around, you know.
Bryn:The thing that so so here, obviously, safety is a big big key to what what you do here. Mhmm. The stories are inspirational, exciting, mostly fun. There's a lot of fun ones in there. There's a lot of heartbreak in there.
Bryn:So I think that this season was probably of the of the four seasons that we've done, probably the most diverse, which continues to spread and make the audience bigger because people are people are recommending episodes to other people, which is essential. That's how this has gotta work. You've done a great job. Here's the other thing about the past four seasons for me. And that is you could just get better.
Liane:Well
Bryn:Okay. You're you're doing a great job. It's just it's fun for me to watch the growth in you through all of this to the point where people are excited. The first couple of years, it was like people were happy to come on. This the last two, they've been excited to come on.
Bryn:And that's because they know that they're gonna have a conversation. You're not interviewing them, so you're gonna have a conversation with them. And I think that's that's gigantic. You know, we're we're getting people I know that when I'm out and about and tell people that I I produce podcasts corporately, people and we talk about your podcast. Everyone says, you know, I've caught a couple of episodes.
Bryn:And once again, it just because you found us in season four doesn't mean you can't go back and listen to seasons one, two, and three. You'll love it. You just will.
Liane:Absolutely. And you'll see the growth and you'll see the transition from getting those tips and and tricks and education out there into a different type of education through what is it like to travel in different countries? What is it like to actually be involved in a collision? What is it actually like to lose somebody in a collision? It's a different form of education than when do you change your tires?
Liane:Like that information isn't gonna change. Tech in motorcycles will change throughout the years and every once in a while, we are gonna need to bring somebody in from Yamaha or Honda or whatever and talk about the new tech in motorcycles.
Bryn:Which is great. That's great.
Liane:Well, and that's why we that's one of the big reasons why we bring Patrick Lambie on for the first guest of every season is to talk about what's new for that year and I look forward to that conversation for 2025.
Bryn:What are you saying? What are you saying there?
Liane:Well, we gotta have a season five.
Bryn:Okay. That's I'm happy to hear that numerous I did too No. I've enjoyed this. So this has been a fun run over the last four years for me. I've loved it.
Liane:You know what? I've I've loved it and I have absolutely loved the the coaching and mentoring from you and the feedback from our very own Marty Forbes, you know, and it's really it has helped me settle into this podcasting world because this is not my world. I'm an HR professional that rides motorcycles. Like, I just care about the safety of the people in my community and want to enhance their experience in a positive way.
Bryn:I also love the fact the mailbag's been fun too. You have some interesting topics as far as I'm concerned.
Liane:It has been and and
Bryn:Are you gonna do that again next year?
Liane:We we will but we might do some other different things too. Okay. I'm not gonna talk about it. Just a little little teaser of I've been in conversations with somebody who may be coming on as a corporate member and I so I don't I can't make any announcements at this time. But they
Bryn:You're gonna end it like this. That's how you're gonna end this.
Liane:Well, no. I'm not gonna end it like this. I'm just gonna tease this part. He has some great experience in in reconstruction different ways. So we might actually be able to sit and have some really good answers to the why questions.
Bryn:Okay.
Liane:In looking at some of the facts from collisions that we can be aware of and potentially the whys behind how that happened with somebody who has a little bit more of that brain that can put that stuff together. So that might be on days we may not have a mailbag question and we might have like a five minute chat with this individual and we'll see. We're we're in talks like literally right now.
Bryn:Okay. Alright. That's fine. That's good. I like that.
Liane:Switching gears on my god. Fall is beautiful, fan. I just called you Finn.
Bryn:Did you just call me your dog's name? I cannot believe you just did that. You call me Finn, your dog. I
Liane:tried to say fall and bread all at the same time.
Bryn:Man. See,
Liane:this is why we're happy. Wild.
Bryn:Sometimes I will say honestly, don't like to as much as I just promoted how great she's come along, I thought to myself, you know, she doesn't at least she doesn't treat me like a dog. Wrong. She calls me one.
Liane:Okay. But I mean, if, like, yeah, Finn's Finn rocks. So Okay. Finn. Fall is awesome.
Bryn:Yes. It is.
Liane:Let's try this again.
Bryn:Are you gonna talk about the lighting conditions? Because see, this is one the things I love about the fall. I love the I love the lighting, but it's tough to drive. It's gotta be tough to bike as well.
Liane:Well, that sunrise sunset is moving at different times every single day as our daylight gets shorter. Our days stay the same length, but our daylight gets shorter. And that affects us and our visibility. I know when I'm in my vehicle, I have a hard time seeing sometimes. On my motorcycle, it's like not as bad.
Liane:I I don't think my visor on my helmet is as bad as my windshield really needs to be replaced. So that is one thing to be mindful of for both drivers and riders alike is that like that extra attention when you can't see, do do something to make you be able to see somehow. But I was out last Sunday. I at our coffee meetup with the local Rumblers group here in Edmonton. We we meet up every Sunday at various coffee shops around the city.
Liane:And it's great and it's been so beautiful out, but it's like single digits when I leave my house to go meet up with them and then it's double digits when I'm coming home. So here's some tips just for everybody because I have a feeling our fall is going to be extended. I probably jinxed that and I'm sorry if I did. But in the meantime, let's make sure we got layers. Like your your key to comfort is layers.
Liane:It's cool in the morning, warms up in the day, then cools off quickly when the sun goes down. So be prepared. Heated gear is a bonus. I have it. It's great heated grips.
Liane:I'd love to have. Not yet, but I will. Road debris is a is a very different thing in the fall than in the spring. In the spring, we're worried about gravel. But aside from the usual stuff, we have falling off vehicles.
Liane:There is still regular gravel out there, but the leaves are falling. Yeah. It is beautiful beautiful to ride around the country right now and the fall colors are amazing in Alberta. But the leaves are falling and in the streets, in the cities and if it rains, they're wet and that is a lack of traction. It is not good.
Liane:So be mindful of that. Wildlife right now, highly active. There's running seasons going on. Boys are chasing their ladies and they don't care if it's a road in the way they're a co finder.
Bryn:Saw five coyotes five coyotes today. Two jumped in front of my vehicle. Gotta watch out. Right? It's crazy.
Liane:So they're they're everywhere and it's that time of year where they're feeling a little frisky. And so they they and they're hungry and they don't really care. Tire temperature is is a big one. The roads are not as warm right now in the morning, so it takes a little bit for your tires to warm up to get that solid traction in. So give yourself time before you start really kinda getting into it.
Liane:Again, the sundown, it comes early and fast. Proper eye protection. Like, I have a drop down visor in my helmet, Brynne, so I have the clear visor, but I have a drop down. It looks like a fighter pilot sunshade.
Bryn:I gotcha.
Liane:And then it and then it flips back up when I want to with just a little like slidey thing on my on the side of my helmet, which is great. And then gear, I mean, we're really big about this anyway. All the gear all the time. ATGAT is the acronym. It's a solid mantra.
Liane:But just make sure you have gear and you're making yourself visible to others. If you're involved in a collision, it gives you a better chance of less injury, less road rash, less everything. And the dreaded start thinking about prepping for winterization. What that means to you is different than what it means to somebody else. For me, it's change the oil, wash my bike, put in some fuel stabilizer, get it up on a lift, and plug it into a trickle charger.
Liane:Some people take batteries out and bring them into their house. Some people don't believe in fuel stabilizer. Best thing to do, your manual. That's like really the best thing to do.
Bryn:And people gotta do their own thing. Everybody's got their own system. Right? So got it.
Liane:And everybody will swear by mine works. I've never had a problem. Mine works. I mean, you know, it's different for everybody. But if you have a carved bike, you gotta be absolutely on top of that.
Liane:Consult your manual and go from there. The last thing that I kinda wanna chat about is all of the amazing people that help us throughout the year with support financially to help us do what we do. And so in our corporate member plan and if you're a business and wanna get involved, you don't necessarily have to be motorcycle related. You just have to care about motorcycle safety and wanting to see that continue to be something that we have in Alberta at the level that we do. Not a lot of actually, there's really only one other province and that's Quebec who has a organization that does as much as we do.
Liane:They've been around for like fifty years and we wanna be around for as long as that, but that all depends on financial funding. So in our corporate member breakdown, I would love to give a huge thank you to our platinum corporate members which include Klondike Insurance, Grover Law Firm, and Production World. In our gold corporate members, a huge shout out to Riverside Honda in Skidoo, NFP, Yamaha, Alberta, Northwestern Polytechnic, Black Jacks Roadhouse, Braithwaite Boyle Braithwaite Boyle White Knights Injury Law. In our silver level, we've got two of the best schools in Alberta, TNT motorcycle rider training in Edmonton, Two cool motorcycle school in Calgary. We've got motorcycle cubed and add more lighting, both new this year, both had episodes this year.
Liane:I had I picked up a new light bar finally for my Scrabbler. Thanks to David at Admiral. Night and day difference when I'm riding. Cars are backed off a little bit more. I'm a big engine breaker and as I decelerate, this light bar lights up for me, show telling people behind me that I'm slowing down.
Liane:And Brock came over from Motorcycle Cube and installed it for me, so like, thank you to my corporate members.
Bryn:We've only been talking about that for two seasons. I think haven't you?
Liane:Then our our yeah. Finally. Our bronze corporate members include the Alberta Safety Council here in Edmonton, again, another top school. Hard knocks track days who are at it late in the year still. They've got, like, late year things going on.
Liane:And head on first aid, we are still somewhat connected to Medical Data Carrier, we are still selling those. We're, I'm excited to hear what the new ideas the, owner of Medical Data Carrier has for us for 2025, but he has reached out. With that too though, we need to thank the government of Alberta who has provided us with some funding that allows us to do our our multimedia campaign, digital marketing campaign that runs mid April through to like mid June. All of our media partners that continue to support us, specifically Stingray, they every year step up, every radio station they have across the province and they manage our digital marketing stuff. And Brynn, for all of your help with producing this podcast and the support you give us at AMSS for that.
Liane:And last but not least, our title sponsor for this year on our podcast would be Moto Canada. This is the first year that they have ever supported an on road program such as ours. They're also supporting the one in Quebec as well. And, we hope that this is a partnership that continues and we'll be finding out in the next couple of months. Hopefully, we'll be sticking with Moto Canada as a title sponsor.
Liane:And, if not, we may have an opening for a title sponsor. But for now, this whole season has been brought to us by Moto Canada and we are grateful for that. The the end oh, and all the general public who signed up for annual memberships. We have a here's another teaser, Bryn. We have a ten year anniversary gift because next year is our tenth year anniversary for, anybody who purchases a membership in 2025 or renews a membership in 2025.
Liane:So if you are new signing up or returning in 2025, we have a special gift for you. They will start being available in January. We will be at the Calgary Motorcycle Show at the January. It is only in Calgary this year. If you wanna know why they're not in Edmonton, I suggest you email Moto Canada and ask them.
Liane:It's their show. I'm not gonna venture an assumption as to why they have downsized to only one city. But yeah, that's we have a lot of support and we can't do this without that. This is a purely voluntary board of directors. None of us get paid to do what we're doing.
Liane:Everything, every financial assistance we get goes into our program, small small administrative costs that we try and keep as low as possible and just getting information out there to everybody. So thank you to everyone who is stepping up and supporting us.
Bryn:Are you wrapping this up here? Is that how you're doing this? I this is only me, the dog producer. The dog producer is the one who's just suggesting that maybe
Liane:Do you have any last thoughts? What
Bryn:else you said? Make I'll make a new brand. Can't stay for long. I mean Littlest Hobo.
Liane:People in an age demographic are going that listen to us.
Bryn:What what did you what was that?
Liane:Well, you've got non non Canadians who listen. That's fine. Young people who are like, what is that?
Bryn:The Littlest Hobo. That's what the dog producer Yeah. Exactly.
Liane:Any last words outside
Bryn:of No. Not really. Hobo. I meant you need get going next season.
Liane:Alright.
Bryn:Okay.
Liane:Okay. You. Thank you very much. And that is our last show, season four. To make sure that you, don't miss season five or to listen to some previous ones, make sure you click on subscribe or follow wherever you get yours.
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Liane:Will see you next year. Have a great winter.
Bryn:Alright. That's enough. See you next year. Okay. Go on.