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You've heard the book publishing podcasts that give you tips for selling a lot of books and the ones that only interview world-famous authors. Now it's time for a book publishing show that reveals what actually goes on behind the cover.
Hosted by New York Times bestselling author Anna David, Behind the Book Cover features interviews with traditionally published authors, independently published entrepreneurs who have used their books too seven figures to their bottom line to build their businesses and more.
Anna David has had books published by HarperCollins and Simon & Schuster and is the founder of Legacy Launch Pad, David is the founder of Legacy Launch Pad Publishing, a boutique, founder-led hybrid book publisher that helps entrepreneurs turn expertise into authority-building books. In other words, she knows both sides—and isn't afraid to share it.
Come find out what traditional publishers don't want you to know.
Speaker 1 00:01
Welcome to the show where writers fill the tea process and their therapy. We'll talk about the money.
Speaker 2 00:13
Hello and welcome to Behind the book cover, hosted by me Anna David, today, I am thrilled to present you with my very first client at Legacy Launchpad. One of the main reasons legacy Launchpad even exists. His name is Darren prince. He is the founder of Prince Marketing Group, which represents such icons as magic, Johnson, David Goggins, Charlie Sheen, and he is the International Best Selling Author of aiming high, which is now a foundation that's raised hundreds of 1000s of dollars to send addicts to rehab. And he is the person who really taught me what publishing a book could do. He has taken this book and just run and I'm going to tell you the truth about this interview. There were tears shed. So if you want to hear some, I mean, to be fair, Darren's a bit of a you know, he's, he's got a tender heart more tender than mine. But if you want to hear what a book can do, yes, in terms of revenue, but in terms of changing lives, including mine and his and the 10s of 1000s of other people you got to listen to this episode. So may I present you with Darren Prince. Darren, my friend.
Speaker 3 01:40
How are you? I'm great. I'm always better when I'm speaking to you.
Speaker 2 01:44
I love that. But let's I mean, you're going to Hawaii tonight with your fiance. I mean, life's pretty
Speaker 3 01:50
good. Yeah, life is great. Life is great.
Speaker 2 01:54
Well, so we were just saying before we started recording, that you are my ultimate case study, and that out of anyone I have ever encountered you, or the person who educated me about what a book can do for you, which is ironic, because it's been my business for decades. So we came together great we have a great meet cute story that involves Ryan Hampton, and upon our first meeting, though, we did not know why we realized that we were meeting so that we could do your book right? Yes, yes. How did, how did you know you wanted to do a book?
Speaker 3 02:32
I mean, I don't know if you remember the exact conversation, but my father passed away prior in February of 2017 and it was fun to me to write a book about, like, my career and everything that goes on with representing iconic athletes and celebrities. And I would always tell, like, a dad, it's, you know, it's not, but that's meant for those stories are, like, treasured, you know, you can't be an agent writing stories it goes, Yeah, but there's a lot of, like, charity, things that you've done. I was like, No, it's just not. It's just not who I am. I would never do that. He goes, Well, what about the Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier story and getting them to reunite, ironically, three days ago was the anniversary, the 50th anniversary of thrill in Manila, the greatest fight, sporting spectacle of all time, over a billion people, October 1, 1975 so I started telling you that story about what it was like being with those two King of Kings in 2002 in Philadelphia and Muhammad Ali suite, and getting them to reunite and finally break bread. And they had this mission of, if we can make peace after all the years, why can't the rest of the world. Fast forward. Look at where we are today. They'd be going crazy with what's going on in the world. But I wasn't exactly in the right mindset. I told you I was. I was sniffing opiates and Percocets and oxycontins Because I was right in the middle of my drug addiction. Never felt worthy of being there. And that's when you had that aha moment. And like, that's it. They're like, You are so passionate when you tell this story, she goes, I don't think you realize it. She goes, that's the book we're gonna write. And I'm like, Anna, it's like, no, I just can't do it. And you're like, yes, you can, because the celebrity component is just gonna make readers a fly on the wall to that life, right? While you go deep into hell with your drug addiction, and come out on the other side and help people. And I got chills. I remember. I'm like, That's it. That's the sort and then we came up with aiming high after months of going back and forth with names.
Speaker 2 04:34
Oh, I remember. I do remember where I was in Toronto when we finally landed on this name because we started doing the book, and at first we didn't know that I was going to publish it, because I was not a book publisher until I met Darren Prince and so and so we just think that we're working on it. We think we're writing it. And I mean, it's really a testament to. One step at a time, not really knowing. I kind of have a theory that you knew this whole time, but I certainly didn't. And we're taking steps, and then you're like, Well, you need to publish it now. And I said, I don't know how to do this. And you said to me, I don't know if you remember this cool. I'll pay you to figure it out. Yep, and we figured it out. And this book was released. I'm so bad at date. Dates. Did it come out in 2018 is that
Speaker 3 05:27
correct? I ironically came out October 1. 2018 I picked the anniversary of the thrill of Manila because the intro of the book was about the ollie Frazier experience. So the seven year the seven year anniversary was three days ago, four days I
Speaker 2 05:42
just got the chills. Okay, because I didn't know that okay, and so I watched you, okay? So my backstory was I had done six books that had really done nothing for my career at that point, and I watched you, let's just say, take the ball and just run with it. What did you know, you were going to do with the book at that point.
Speaker 3 06:03
Well, I started realizing, you know, the position that I'm in representing, you know, some of the most globally iconic figures. You know, most of my career at that leverage was everything, relationship capital, relationship building, which is what my superpower has always been, and and connecting people and I, I first started with Magic Johnson, who's a dear friend and client for 31 years, and I was with him in Miami about three weeks after we signed the publishing deal, and we were in his suite catching up, and it was right right after New Year's. And I said to him, it was early, 2018 and we're about getting ready to go to a keynote that he had. And he was always so personal. You got to spend time with him multiple times now, just so much more about our personal connection and the love we have for one another and the family vibe than anything we've ever done in business, and he's telling me how good I was looking, and how are me and mom and my sister, and now that dad's past, and I told him, I said, Irvin, I call him by his real name. I think I got to tell you something. I signed a deal to publish my memoir, and he got so excited. He's like, Baby Boy, this is amazing. You know, what's it about? He goes, I'm so happy. And I told him, I'm like, it's about me representing some of the most iconic stars of our time, including you, but mostly how I went deep into hell and came out on the other side, and now it's my mission to sprinkle hope and recovery across the world. And he literally teared up and gave me this huge bear hug. Goes baby boy, this is your legacy. This is going to help change so many lives around the world, and whatever I could do to support it. And my palms were sweating, I turned into that nervous little, young kid again, and I was like, I gotta ask him, I gotta ask and I got the nerves to ask him, and I go, I need you to do me a favor, and I'd be honored if you would say yes. And I know you've only done it properly for Larry Bird. You don't do it for many but would you write the forward to my book? And he just started laughing with that billion dollar smile. He goes, hey, no disrespect. What were you going to ask Dennis Rodman or Hulk Hogan? Because you better ask me to do the forward to your book, because I'd be because I'd be honored my brother. So now I started thinking with my marketing brain. Okay? Now we got something. Look at all the media outlets that I've connected over the years with. No matter who the stars were that I was representing, I was like, this is a mission. Now there's not a single person on Earth that doesn't know somebody suffering with alcoholism or the opiate epidemic. I'm like, this is going to touch everybody. And my public is Jules and, you know, with the help of people in my office and myself reaching out, the first major connect was Chris Cuomo. And Chris, you know, we had a history with him, with a bunch of our clients, and I got to spend time with them. And he said that he wanted to speak to me personally, you know, and he will want this going through his booking office. And we had an amazing call for an hour, and he shared with me stories about people that he knows impacted by the opioid epidemic. And just was so in awe of my story and my courage, and said to me, Darren, the only thing I asked is that I am your first interview. Let me take this book global. Let's touch as many lives as we can. You can do anybody else you want to after. And I said, Chris, I'd be honored. And you know, CNN, Chris Cuomo, probably time, you know, October 1. It was in 2018 the anniversary of Ali Frazier, the Berlin Manila, the third fight, and the book just took on a life its own after that point.
Speaker 2 09:48
Yeah, and then after that, you did Tucker Carlson. You did.
Speaker 3 09:53
It was good day to New York. It was Tucker Carlson. It was Dr Oz. It was Fox in front. And Jay Shetty podcast, and Jay became a very dear friend over the years, and we do business together too. And I mean, it was just like a job or not, it was one thing after the other and extra. And tonight did a piece. And I remember you called me up one day, and we started laughing, and I'll never forget this. And you're like, it's almost like you're like a marketing guru. And I said, Anna, did you forget what I do for a living? I kind of did, yeah. And we, we just started laughing our ass off. And, I mean, I got, you know, Mark Cubans with your friend, Jeannie bust, they gave testimonies. They they tweeted about it. There was Scottie Pippen, criminal Jabari, even talent that's not really exclusive clients or like those individuals we've worked with from time to time, but impacted so many people that all got behind it. Dr Drew was at the forefront. You know, he came to my book release in New York that magic co hosted with them and my dear friend Jason Binn, the publishing mogul. I mean, we did a huge event in Miami that, may he rest in peace. Hulk Hogan surprised me and told me he wasn't going to make it. And at the time, I'm working with Rodman, he was there and so many people. And Dave grobman hosted that one in Miami for me at Komodo. So I got all the heavyweights in the cultural world behind this to just tell this story that you know, don't be so focused on the external success, because that's not where the happiness is, finding the real you within, you know, going through your own hell and finding our purpose, and then becoming a voice and helping others with that voice. That's wealth, and that's my story now
Speaker 2 11:48
well, and I think with the The interesting thing about me not thinking of you as a marketing guru is, despite this book being about your career, we never talked about what you did. We talked about our experience recovering from addiction. That's where we bonded and and so I almost, I remember when you introduced me to magic, you said, show up. We won't say because it was like where he was staying or doing something like show up here. And I didn't really with all things. Darren prince, I never really believed you could pull it off until it happened, and then show up, and he's there, and I remember he goes, Can we take a picture? Like, as if he wants to take a picture with us, you know? And then, and then, same, you introduced me to Dennis Rodman because he showed up at a lot of your events. What, what blew my mind was the week the book came out, you signed a six figure spokesperson deal. Is that correct?
Speaker 3 12:46
Yeah, they're working with a big wellness group, yeah, big treatment, you know, facility. And then what happened with that was, because I never really I don't write a book to get sober. I don't write the book to make money off my sobriety. I should say I wrote the book to help me and help others. Fortunately, I'm so blessed with Prince marketing group that, you know, I know there's a lot of advocates, God bless them. If they can monetize, make a brand help people. I don't judge anybody. Do whatever you want to do. And that put the light bulb on. Where I was, like, This doesn't feel right. So let me figure something out with this, because I started doing so much speaking at that point that I was like, people's lights come on in their eyes when I speak. For some reason, I don't know these God given words, and they're ready. They have that moment of clarity, but I have no outlet on what to do with them outside of maybe speak to them. And that's when it came to me, after the around the time of that spokesperson deal that I'm like, I'm going to start the Amy high foundation. So when I have opportunities to earn revenue, we're going to make sure the foundation benefits. Because now when the lights come on in their eyes, I'm able to say, go home. Get ready. Give me a point of contact, because we're getting on an airplane to get you in a treatment center either tonight or first thing in the morning, and we are covering every single dollar of the expense to scholarship, yeah.
Speaker 2 14:08
How many people so? And the aiming high foundation for anyone who hasn't kept long, that is the name of the book. So to me, that's so cool that the first book I ever published now has a charity
Speaker 3 14:19
legitimate 501, c3, or 100% of the proceeds go to scholarship
14:24
people. How many people has it sent to rehab?
Speaker 3 14:26
I mean, it's been around now for six years. So 150 200 people. We're averaging probably 2530 people a year. Wow. And it's just the greatest joy, you know, to be able to have the resources that I do, to raise the funds and the relationships I have with so many incredible centers like, you know, Novak had Novak's house and oaks recovery and Banyan and, I mean, it's just, it's just been unbelievable. I mean. That is just the greatest feeling in the world when I know somebody who's at their bottom and no matter what's going on in business, that's secondary, because Carla in my office and Matilda to help so much, do whatever we can to raise awareness, raise funds. When I'm able to get that moment and be able to change somebody's life and know that they're checked in, it's just like I said, I have a whole new definition of wealth. It's not about the toys and the cars and the houses and the private jets. Is, unfortunately, too many people in the young culture focus on that now it's being good within you. It's knowing what your mission is. It's knowing who you are, working on that unresolved trauma and finding a better, healthier path, and then being kind to people and being a service.
Speaker 2 15:47
So how much has that raised? How much did has the aiming high foundation raised over the past few years?
Speaker 3 15:53
I mean, we probably at least been unbelievable. Probably we raise hundreds of 1000s of dollars a year so and it's at the point now where I literally have donors and individuals. If there's ever a quarter or something where we're low, I'm so blessed that I don't really need to do a fundraising event. I actually have a Rolodex of people that if we're short on them, can go to a business owner of a corporation, and say, we could really use 50,000 or 100,000 committed to you by you in the next 90 days. Can I? Can I count on you? And, yeah, I mean, so it's almost like that, leveraging that network, the relationship building that I do with Prince mark and group I've now done it with the AMI
Speaker 2 16:41
Foundation. And so when this book comes out and you get this six figure spokesperson offer, and you have this moment of, wait a minute, I didn't do this to make money as as a person, you know who people do, plenty of people, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with this. Do want to make money from their books so it will never come through book sales. I always say it's a rounding error compared
Speaker 3 17:12
to the ancillary opportunities that come exactly
Speaker 2 17:17
and so can you talk about some of those opportunities? So how did this spokesperson deal came along? They said, Wow, you're a best selling author. Will you do keynotes for us? What happened?
Speaker 3 17:26
Yeah, it was basically keynotes. It was using my media platform, using my media resources, and it was one of the groups, and, you know, in the treatment industry, very big group, and they knew what my capabilities were. But even aside from Anna, like it, actually helped Vince Marketing Group tremendously. And that was, that was the point I did not expect. Like it really made me so much more identified with clients. I think we spoke about this last time. David Goggins is a client and a dear friend, and about three and a half years ago, it's not easy to track down. We were able to get him booked for a keynote conference, and when I met him in the green room, I had a couple copies of my book, and I handed it to him, and I signed one to him, and he starts looking at the photos in the middle and speaking exactly, David, because I know who you are, motherfucker, because I looked you up, and because you represent some bad motherfuckers. Because, you know, Ali Frazier, Charlie Sheen, Hulk, he's magic, like, man, it gets good for you. And he puts the book down, and he's like, but let me tell you something why I'm choosing to work with you, because I don't work with anybody, because I don't need money, because I got plenty, because I do this, because it's like my mission to help people, because you go to war with yourself every day to make the world a better place. And because of that I'm working with, you never would have happened with wasn't framing like and I mean, obviously people see the amount of events that we have him at and massive stages. He's a cultural phenomenon. I mean, it's helped the core business. It's helped with, you know, whether it's magic when Hulk was alive, Charlie Sheen is a dear friend and client. You know, he's back on top right now with his book and Netflix documentary, you know, it made me so identifiable to business owners and corporate business people that even when I would go to take a meeting, I would bring my book, and then they would look at the book, and the book was like my own personal, tangible bio. And the book was brilliant. We put together. The cover looked incredible. The Insert was unbelievable. It's a quick, easy read that so many people said they couldn't put down, and so now they're getting the book, and when I'm in that business meeting, it's allowing me to tell them my story. It's given me a feel going a tool to say, I know why you think I'm here, but this is me. No. Nothing in my life works without this right here, this book started it all, and just like that, it's like, now there's a deeper connection for business and to this day. I mean, we're talking seven years later, and you know, if there's any new sort of corporate client opportunity, or, you know, a way to bring in, you know, some of our celebrities to a group or a campaign or a keynote event, that that book is still working its own magic.
Speaker 2 20:30
Well, that's what I think is really incredible, because it was quite brave of you to put out there a lot of what's in there. And rather than saying, Look, I'm this uber responsible sports guru, instead you're saying I was effing up. I'm a mom now, so I don't say, you know, you're basically showcasing how you were not good at your job. You were still good at your job, but that's a very risky thing to put out there. Did it occur to you at the time?
Speaker 3 21:02
No, I had a few people. My mom, who passed away last year, she was against it. One of my agents, you know, it's a little bit nervous. You know, a couple friends, I heard some crickets, and to me, there was, I mean, it wasn't even a thought. I just knew in my gut, because I already knew up to that point, what every year when I would celebrate another one year anniversary of recovery, what it meant to my clients, what it meant to corporate business owners that I was good friends with. So I was like, What do I have to lose? I was like, you know, like, embrace your past. Everybody's got one, no matter how ashamed you are. That's the healing. We're in a world where authenticity isn't plentiful enough, and when you live on that authentic frequency, what's anybody going to say? Take the cats out of the bag. This was me. I'm no longer that person. Look at all the work I've done that got me to be who I am today. I'm hoping I could be a light to other people out there that are reading this and suffer.
Speaker 2 22:04
Well, one thing you also told me is that, and this is related to you showing up to business meetings with your book, is that what used to be business negotiations became conversations with friends because they knew your story. And did people ever say to you, hey, well, I mean, David Goggins said it, but like, did you ever have tangible evidence that a deal went better because of your book, or was it just a general feeling you
Speaker 3 22:32
have? Oh, no, no. There was, like, legitimate business that got like locked in because of Amy high, like clients that we still have to this day. I mean, I had a documentary done last year on the legacy makers that got nominated to the holly Short Film Festival, and it was one round away. It made it to the 40th submission out of 6000 went to the red carpet event in August, and if it won, if it qualified as four of the 10, it would have actually been up for an Oscar for Best Short Film. But I, again, I didn't do it. I didn't even think it was going to be nominated for the holly Short Film Festival, and it got in there. And, you know, the person that I deal with within that organization, you know, we actually do business together. You know, there's just so many ancillary situations that have come some tangible, some relationship wise, that I just for every time of that, I think, oh, it's seven years old. It's outdated. In my mind. It could be. But the reality is the opiate epidemic and substance abuse and mental health is more pressing than ever. So to me why it might be seven years old. Sadly, I feel we're in a worse place now because of fentanyl and other substances that are out there than we ever were back in 2018 you know what allowed me to reconnect with President Trump? Love him or hate him, I had a business relationship with him from Celebrity Apprentice days, and we actually did licensing deals with him when it was 100% love affair for Donald Trump, long before his, you know, presidential run in 2016 and when the book came out, I started speaking. I got contacted by his long term executive assistant, Rona Graf, who I knew for decades, and they invited me up to the White House four different times during his presidency. And I got that Yeah, and I got to be there when he signed the $9 billion dollar opiate epidemic bill. You know, it got me deeper connected to Dr Drew. Well, I always know I booked Dr drew for a keynote earlier this year for Banyan. You know, there's always sort of business things that come up and all of this. It's like. This is what the importance of people knowing, if you don't just write a book, but write a book that's mission based, the opportunities are endless. How much ways you can go with it.
25:12
Did Trump read your book?
Speaker 3 25:14
No, but Kelly Anna Conway read it. And before she resigned, I got to spend time with her and Governor Christie, who was being that I'm originally from New Jersey, was our New Jersey governor. And they both thanked me for my service, and that was pretty cool. I got a picture of them holding the book when I was in the White House.
Speaker 2 25:33
Well, so you are, let's just call you like a sort of global manifestor. Had you ever expected to manifest what you have when, when we sat down in the Noy house and talked about this book, is this bigger than what you envisioned?
Speaker 3 25:49
It's way bigger because I I just wanted to do it as another layer of therapy and healing, and just hope I would help some people. But then, like I said, my marketing brain took over. And I don't know, I go if we're going to do this, you know, this is going to be iconic. This is going to be epic. This is going to be something everybody's talking about. I don't need to sell millions of bucks and sell 10s of 1000s of bucks, whatever it is, but it's a vehicle that is going to really help people. Because what's the point of selling half a million, a million copies of a best selling novel, great. So you're giving people entertainment, you're giving them joy. But where's the payoff? Where's the helping component? Or is this just something you're writing purely for profit, purely for financial gain? That was never the mission. I think that's why God has carried me through up to this point.
Speaker 2 26:42
Yeah, yeah. I, I always say I'd rather sell 100 books to the right people than 10,000 to people who will forget it the next day. Yeah. So let's talk. So the speaking you had done, you, I mean, you certainly we all speak when we're in 12 step rooms and all of that stuff you had done professional speaking, yeah, what changed once you were a best selling author in terms of your speaking career? Yeah?
Speaker 3 27:10
I mean, just so many opportunities came up, and they still do. And I took it real serious on that with my my speech coach, Jeffrey Davis, in Manhattan, because I wanted to invest himself, I wanted to make sure I wasn't delivering in 12 step, you know, speech. And I think you see me speak, we're at that church, and it's different now. It's a whole different flow that's more identifiable, because I'm, like, not everybody's gonna identify with a 12 step recovery speech. I need to broaden this out, and so I spent about six months with them, and no excuse me, we really nailed it, and now the flow is just unbelievable. I mean, I could do it in my sleep, and I did a big one. I think it was last September, last year, the year before, for the faith over fear Business Summit, and so I cut a deal with them. I said, Look, I don't want any money, but what I do is I want to call to action to my aiming high foundation. I want to raise funds that night, because they had a big audience, about 5000 people, and we raised almost $60,000 that night with me being on stage.
Speaker 2 28:24
Wow. I forgot about us in the church. What a hilarious, amazing memory you and I went out to what town was that Mount Vernon was a Mount Vernon, New York, and you were friends with the former mayor, a former mayor, and he took us to these different churches. And you and I got out there and we were preaching.
Speaker 3 28:52
They loved it. They loved it. We were like a breath of fresh air at all those churches. It was amazing.
Speaker 2 28:58
Oh, my God. So so I know that, you know, we started this by talking about how you almost, I don't know, I don't want to put words in your mouth, but almost felt guilty that you were being gifted such revenue as a result of your book, if you had to estimate how much it was in all, if you're talking about, you know, increased business Prince marketing group, is it even impossible to
Speaker 3 29:28
quantify? It's impossible. But I could tell you, it's millions of dollars collectively between how it's impacted my business and how it's impacted my brand, and how it's impacted, most importantly, the aiming high foundation. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's just and, like I said, the relationships that have been developed because of it. You know, Jay Shetty is a dear friend. We've done business together, you know, yeah, I got him a couple of clients early on. But, you know, aiming high. Obviously guest on his podcast that that's when, you know, again, I didn't do it for that, but now it became like spiritual brothers. So when opportunities come up, you know, I'm able to bring them to Jake Lewis, Howes, another one, dear friend of mine. And you know, he booked David Goggins for the summit of greatness last September, and it's another one of those things. If aiming high didn't exist, how am I meeting Lewis house?
Speaker 2 30:30
So if you had to summarize as we wrap up, how did the book change your life? How could you
Speaker 3 30:39
you know, it's amazing, because I still have people message me from around the world that'll, you know, watch, you know, a Bradley podcast, Ryan Panetta, Jordan, Harberger, Jay Shetty. They'll see one the podcast interviews or TV one, and they'll message me how much has changed their life. And it always gets me thinking, you know, it's amazing to hear that not enough people realize that how much changed mine. You know that we just met by chance on Instagram, made a lunch appointment to see each other, really? It wasn't, it wasn't an exact direction. I think it's, I think it's just a testament to people understanding that, you know, the importance of meeting, the importance of connection, the importance of having a game plan to execute, a vision of giving back being in a place of service. And even though I got to give you credit, you didn't know much about the publishing world. You know, don't be afraid jump in and take that chance. You know, learn why you're in the middle of it. We're going to make mistakes anyway. In life, nobody's perfect. You just correct it the next time. And you know, with me, you know, it wasn't always smooth sailing with them out of Orlando, that there was a bunch of challenges, but we eventually pulled it off. And then I remember, when it finally got done and the Bucks came out, you're like, I'm now looking into a much more smoother vehicle to do this, you know, future. So that's a testament to you too, because, you know, people are so fearful to do things and try different things, and you just went right in, like a savage relentlessly, like, I'm going to figure this out, we're going to get it done. And, you know, then you pivot, and you made those changes. So I don't think it's just my life. I think yours also got changed. We did it collectively, and I joked around before we jumped on this interview, it's almost like a master class case study of two people coming together and delivering this incredible product that now you have the ability to go to so many entrepreneurs, people of impact individuals, to know that, hey, I've got the model, and I know exactly How to tweak this, invest themselves, and they'll be dipping down the road, personally, spiritually, emotionally and financially.
Speaker 2 33:08
Well, that almost brought tears to my eyes. It did when I tell you what it did to my life. So we are now 60 books in
33:17
Wow.
Speaker 2 33:19
This would never have happened without you. As a result, I not only kind of get to rewrite. You know, when we came together, I had done six books with Harper Collins. My heart was broken over and over again about how these books did nothing for me. I thought I hated writing. Really, what you taught me was that was that the book is the vehicle, the book is the authority, builder. And no traditional publisher ever told me that. You taught me that that 60 people whose lives have changed, if we're just talking financially, what that's done for me, you know, I have a two year old that was born via surrogate. You know, I probably would not have been, we would not have been able to afford that, right, had it not been for this. I mean, just think of how that goes on and on and on and and, you know, after this happened, you had no reason to really like help me. I mean, you, instead of forgetting me, you that got me my second client, Joe, Joe, I remember you then connected me to Kevin Harrington, who has brought me many clients. You brought me along you were, and it's actually, I do remember this conversation we had where you you first learned about Lewis house, and you were like, you said something like, I want to make you into the next Lewis house. Yeah, we didn't go in that direction, right? But, you know, over and over again, you assisted in enhancing my life, which. I don't think it's an accident that you are now living this beautiful life and you're engaged and you know, everything is really booming. So that's I never really got a chance to tell you that. So no,
Speaker 3 35:12
thank you. No. I know it gets me emotional, because I remember we saw each other at the meeting that one day down on that rose, and you just came running over to me about your home and your new house. And you know that came from having the father that I had and magic. I mean, when I first signed him in 1994 he told me that if I don't use him, and I wrote this in the book, to knock down every door, to bring in all the celebrities I can, he was going to fire me before these two years were up, that it's not how successful he becomes, it's how successful he makes everybody else around him, including me, that's what matters in life, because then when I get there, it's about paying forward to other people. You don't do things. The reason why things have just manifested, aside from all the incredible personal development work I do every day, from meditation, grounding, frequency, work, prayer, the 12 Steps, you know, ice bath, I do so so much like you do it like magic, and I talk about because it's the right thing to do, but you live in that frequency of blessing others with abundance and abundant Opportunity. God just can't help but to pay it back.
Speaker 2 36:23
Yeah, I adore you. If people want to find out more about you, where should they go?
Speaker 3 36:30
On Instagram, at agent underscore. DP, the foundation is aiming high. Foundation.org, and what else? Prince marketing group.com is the agency. But obviously that's not why I'm here. You know, this is just always exciting with me, to me when we can kind of reconnect and have our little reunion and flashbacks of such an exciting time that's still impacting people and still generating revenue and creating opportunities,
Speaker 2 37:02
and that's also what I want to say, because traditional publishing, it's over the week of the launch this the book lasts forever. It really does. Thank you, Darren, Thanks y'all for listening. See you next time. Thank you. Thanks for listening to behind the book cover. If you loved it, I hope you'll consider liking and subscribing, because it helps more people find the show and look you can like and subscribe even if you only liked and didn't love it, but if you hated it, you can skip the review. Or who am I kidding? I'll take one from you too.
Speaker 1 37:38
Research rabbit hole behind the book cover. Let's get weird asking the questions that you've always feared.