How Supermodel Carol Alt Rebuilt Her Health Through Food and Found Her Energy Again

What’s Carol Alt’s secret to glowing skin, boundless energy, and youthful vitality at 64?

In this episode of Hol+, Dr. Taz MD sits down with the iconic supermodel, entrepreneur, and raw food advocate to reveal the powerful truths behind aging well, naturally. From reversing signs of aging to healing chronic health issues with food, Carol shares how raw nutrition, enzyme therapy, and a deeply holistic lifestyle transformed her health in her 30s, and why she’s never looked back.

You’ll learn the raw, unfiltered truth (pun intended) about how Carol rebuilt her body from the inside out, the rituals that keep her glowing into her 60s, and her philosophy that the closer you eat to God, the better your body functions. From raw tiramisu to trail mix, from detox protocols to spiritual mindset shifts, this is a must-watch episode for anyone who wants to age with grace, energy, and empowerment, without surgery or shortcuts.
 
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Carol opens up about:
• The moment she knew cooked food was draining her life force
• Her enzyme-rich daily routine that supports digestion, skin, and energy
• How she healed chronic health problems (like candida) by going raw
• Why beauty really does start in your 20s, and what to do now if you didn’t know
• Her take on fats, fasting, juicing, and eating with intention
• How mindset, discipline, and food all fuel her glow at 64

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About Carol Alt
Dubbed The Face by The Fashion Industry, Carol Alt is a pioneer and chameleon in the fashion, entertainment and Health industries; she is constantly on the lookout for new challenges. Since her days as the world’s most renowned Supermodel, Carol has gone on to be multi-award winning actor, successful entrepreneur, best-selling author on Raw Food and Nutrition, and the host of A Healthy You & Carol Alt on FOX News Channel.

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Dr. Tasneem Bhatia, also known as Dr. Taz, is a triple board-certified integrative medicine physician, bestselling author, and founder of hol+, a multi-location integrative medicine practice.
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Host: Dr. Taz; Produced by ClipGrowth.com (Producer: Pat Gostek)

Chapters
00:00 Health, aging, and your daily choices
01:00 Meet Carol Alt
02:20 Why beauty begins earlier than we think
03:49 Why Carol changed her diet at 36
08:12 Her biggest dieting mistake and raw food basics
17:31 Raw food, digestion, and rebuilding nutrition
20:50 What Carol noticed after changing her diet
23:25 How to begin and what to remove first
27:30 Juicing, fasting, cravings, and practical food swaps
35:30 Aging after 60, oils, beauty, spirituality, and final advice

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Dr. Taz Bhatia MD

Dr. Taz Bhatia is a triple-board-certified integrative medicine physician and founder of hol+, where she brings together science, spirit and the human experience to deliver holistic, whole-person care.

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[00:00:00] Dr. Taz: It's what you do most of the time that gives the body its benefit or its [00:00:05] detriment. Mm. It's what you do most of the time.
[00:00:07] Carol Alt: I was noticing at 36 years [00:00:10] old, my hair was starting to turn gray, I was starting to get wrinkles, I was losing my desire to [00:00:15] work and my energy level. My doctor, my holistic doctor, said it best.
[00:00:18] Carol Alt: He said, "Carol, you know, you're the [00:00:20] accumulation of everything you do to your body." That means everything that you put in and on your [00:00:25] body at some point shows on your face. Mm. This was a gift you were given. [00:00:30] Health is a gift.
[00:00:31] Dr. Taz: Ooh, that's a great way to think about this.
[00:00:33] Carol Alt: Right, and you need to take [00:00:35] care of that gift.
[00:00:35] Carol Alt: You give the body what it needs, and you can rebuild [00:00:40] yourself.
[00:00:40] Dr. Taz: There are so many food and diet trends out there right now, it's actually quite dizzying, even [00:00:45] for me. You hear about keto, vegan, gluten-free, paleo, anti-inflammatory. [00:00:50] Which one are we supposed to do? Now, while I've always talked about [00:00:55] personalizing diet recommendations to you, here's something that we are not talking very much [00:01:00] about nowadays.
[00:01:00] Dr. Taz: It's the raw food diet. And to help educate us and learn more, [00:01:05] I've brought on Carol Alt. That's right, you heard me correctly. Carol [00:01:10] Alt, the swimsuit Sports Illustrated magazine cover. She's graced so many [00:01:15] magazines over the years. She's a renowned supermodel, and she's been dubbed The [00:01:20] Face by the fashion industry.
[00:01:21] Dr. Taz: Since her days as the world's most renowned supermodel, [00:01:25] Carol has gone on to be a multi-award-winning actor, a successful [00:01:30] entrepreneur, a best-selling author on raw food and nutrition,
[00:01:33] Carol Alt: and the host of A [00:01:35] Healthy You and Carol Alt on the Fox News Channel. Please welcome [00:01:40] Carol to Whole Plus.
[00:01:41] Dr. Taz: All right. Carol Alt is on my show.
[00:01:43] Dr. Taz: So hard to believe. [00:01:45] I'm having a pinch me moment. I have watched and followed you for such a long time, and [00:01:50] have really admired you for multiple reasons. Not, of course, just because of the gorgeous beauty [00:01:55] that you are, but you've always sort of advocated and talked about holistic health [00:02:00] in different ways, right?
[00:02:01] Dr. Taz: Whether it was your diet or how you took care of yourself. I am so [00:02:05] curious. In today's landscape, where there's probably every procedure available to- ... [00:02:10] everybody at every age- I was wondering. It didn't take you long to
[00:02:12] Carol Alt: get
[00:02:12] Dr. Taz: into that, Dr. Taz ... at every single age. Even my [00:02:15] 17-year-old is like, "Do I need this?" And I'm like, "Please, stop."
[00:02:18] Dr. Taz: You know. What is your [00:02:20] definition of holistic beauty, and what would you tell women today?
[00:02:23] Carol Alt: You know, I, I try to [00:02:25] tell women today that your beauty starts at a young age. At their [00:02:30] 20s and 30s it's really important what you eat, how you nutrition your body, what you put on your skin, what you [00:02:35] wash your hair with.
[00:02:36] Carol Alt: Uh, you know, I actually ... My ho- my doctor, my holistic doctor, [00:02:40] said it best. He said, "Carol, you know, you're the accumulation of everything you do to your body." That means [00:02:45] everything that you put in and on your body at some point shows on your face. [00:02:50] Mm. And for me, that was in my 60s. You know? All of a sudden, your 60s, you [00:02:55] start going like, "Okay.
[00:02:56] Carol Alt: What do I need to adjust in order to tighten my skin [00:03:00] back up and give me back my energy?" And, and that's a big one with all my girlfriends, is [00:03:05] energy.
[00:03:05] Dr. Taz: Energy- Yeah ... is the big thing they complain about. But, you know, I just caught you on something. You said it took you [00:03:10] till 60- Mm-hmm ... to notice anything. Yeah.
[00:03:12] Dr. Taz: The majority of my patients and [00:03:15] women I meet today- 40s ... 40.
[00:03:16] Carol Alt: Yeah.
[00:03:16] Dr. Taz: So that's a 20-year sort of- Well,
[00:03:19] Carol Alt: I've been
[00:03:19] Dr. Taz: raw- ... [00:03:20] differential. I've been raw for- So you've been raw from- ...
[00:03:21] Carol Alt: 36 years.
[00:03:23] Dr. Taz: So I wanna talk about that. Yeah. We're gonna go [00:03:25] right there. So, you know, I've read that about you, I think, for years, about, uh, that, how you've been raw and you [00:03:30] chose to go raw.
[00:03:31] Dr. Taz: I wanna learn more about that. You know, that's sort of, when we look at Ayurveda or we [00:03:35] look at other systems of medicine, they have opinions on being raw, right? Yeah. So talk to us about [00:03:40] your choice to go raw, you know, how that evolved, and, you know, how [00:03:45] do you do it. That's another question, you know. Yeah.
[00:03:47] Dr. Taz: And we'll go from there.
[00:03:49] Carol Alt: Okay. Well, first [00:03:50] of all, you know, my decision to go raw wasn't just, uh, uh, I pulled [00:03:55] it out of the sky and said, "Oh, I feel I should do this." I studied, I [00:04:00] spoke with doctors, and I found what was right for me and for my body. I was [00:04:05] what we call a very acid system. Mm-hmm. I was very high-strung, A-type [00:04:10] personality, and, uh, or, or, you know, some people call it parasympathetic strong, some people call [00:04:15] it parasym- uh, c- you know, weak, but that's how they decide what they do and how they eat.
[00:04:19] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:04:19] Carol Alt: And [00:04:20] for me, I was, I was noticing at 36 years old, [00:04:25] my hair was starting to turn gray, I was starting to get wrinkles. I was losing my desire to [00:04:30] work and my energy level. And- You know, I [00:04:35] truthfully, this sounds so crazy, but it's part of holistic medicine, I went [00:04:40] more spiritual. I prayed on it.
[00:04:41] Dr. Taz: Hmm.
[00:04:42] Carol Alt: And one day out of the blue in [00:04:45] the middle of praying, I got a phone call from a friend of mine who said, "Oh, you need to speak with this doctor.
[00:04:49] Carol Alt: He's going [00:04:50] to change your mind and on how you look at food."
[00:04:53] Dr. Taz: Hmm.
[00:04:54] Carol Alt: And his name was [00:04:55] Dr. Timothy Brantley. He wrote the book called, uh, The Cure- Mm-hmm ... The Brantley Cure, and it was [00:05:00] 15 weeks New York Times bestseller list. Amazing. And he's my guru. And, um, I s- I... [00:05:05] At first I resisted, and then I said, "What am I doing?
[00:05:07] Carol Alt: I tried every stupid, [00:05:10] ridiculous diet out there, and nothing worked for me." And when I [00:05:15] spoke with the doctor, he just made total and complete sense. It was like the universe opened up, and I just [00:05:20] knew that this information that I was getting was something that was gonna change my life.
[00:05:24] Dr. Taz: I knew it. So you're [00:05:25] 36 years old, you're struggling with graying early, energy-
[00:05:29] Carol Alt: [00:05:30] Heal- But I had more health issues than that.
[00:05:31] Carol Alt: I mean, I had, uh, I w- I had a [00:05:35] candida, uh, blood infection- Mm ... which I didn't know about, and a doctor here told me it was, uh, [00:05:40] poison sumac. It turned out to be candida in my blood. Timothy, Dr. Timothy d- [00:05:45] diagnosed me right over the phone. He said, "I'm surprised you don't have this, this, this, this, and this." [00:05:50] Sinus infection, colds and flu after every movie.
[00:05:52] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:05:52] Carol Alt: I would be working three or four months on a movie, [00:05:55] boom, down for two weeks, back up to do a movie again. Oh,
[00:05:57] Dr. Taz: wow.
[00:05:57] Carol Alt: It was, it was a really bad [00:06:00] routine. And, uh, you know, I tried everything too to stay thin because in the modeling [00:06:05] industry- Right ... I, I was 5 foot 11 and 115 pounds. Mm. And, uh, the cover of Sports Illustrated, I was [00:06:10] 115 pounds.
[00:06:11] Carol Alt: And i- i- it w- you know, it, it does, it, that does [00:06:15] something to your body. Yo-yo dieting, dieting in itself, all these crazy things [00:06:20] people do- Trends, yeah. Mm-hmm ... to lose weight, they all wreak havoc on your body. And what I [00:06:25] found was raw food was kind of nirvana. It was the garden of eating. [00:06:30] You know? I could eat and not feel guilty and not have that fat thigh feeling- [00:06:35] Right
[00:06:35] Carol Alt: you know, when you go- Right, right. Oh, yes ... "Oh, I just feel like a..." Yeah. "Uh, what did I just eat?"
[00:06:37] Dr. Taz: Yeah.
[00:06:38] Carol Alt: And I [00:06:40] just knew if I stayed on this road that this was, this was the right [00:06:45] road because it's the closer you eat to God-
[00:06:49] Dr. Taz: This is almost [00:06:50] spiritual
[00:06:50] Carol Alt: It's all spiritual. I mean, it's all spiritual Wow. It's, it's how you [00:06:55] take care of this temple, this gift that you were given.
[00:06:58] Carol Alt: I see people [00:07:00] beat themselves up with alcohol and drugs and cigarettes and staying out all night and doing all kinds of [00:07:05] crazy thing, and they have total disrespect for their health. And then when they become unhealthy [00:07:10] or diseased, they go, "Why?" Yeah. "Why, God?" Yeah. "Why did you do this?" Right. [00:07:15] And it's like, not why, God.
[00:07:15] Carol Alt: It's like, you know, this was a gift. This was a gift you [00:07:20] were given. Health is a gift.
[00:07:21] Dr. Taz: Ooh, that's a great way to think about this.
[00:07:23] Carol Alt: Right. And you need [00:07:25] to take care of that gift, and you need to be appreciative and grateful of that gift. [00:07:30] And only when you lose that do you start [00:07:35] becoming grateful for all the small little things.
[00:07:37] Carol Alt: Mm. I always like to say to women, "Listen, you know, you could have all [00:07:40] the Versaces you want in your closet." Mm-hmm. "But if you're too sick to wear them, who cares?" Who
[00:07:43] Dr. Taz: cares? Right.
[00:07:44] Carol Alt: If you're too sick [00:07:45] to enjoy them, if you're not happy because hanging over your head every day is this hammer [00:07:50] about to hit your anvil- Mm
[00:07:51] Carol Alt: because you're, you know, you're, you're waiting for a diagnosis or [00:07:55] whatever. And one of my other doctors said, "It's not g-," you know, "And it's not if, Carol, it's when. [00:08:00] It's when it happens to people."
[00:08:02] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:08:02] Carol Alt: Because we don't take care of ourselves. It's really, [00:08:05] really important. And raw food was so easy. Like, everybody thinks it's so [00:08:10] difficult.
[00:08:10] Carol Alt: Right. It was the easiest thing I ever did. Try not eating.
[00:08:12] Dr. Taz: That was- I, I wanna learn more about this ... that was more difficult ... 'cause I am [00:08:15] absolutely fascinated with this. But before we go there, you know, for young women listening to [00:08:20] our show today, what were the three biggest mistakes that you made prior to [00:08:25] 36 when it came to trying to lose weight?
[00:08:28] Dr. Taz: assuming something was healthy, [00:08:30] you know, or just even your own self-care? What were some of the biggest, like, pitfalls and mistakes that you made when you look back? I [00:08:35] think
[00:08:35] Carol Alt: there's one big mistake, and that big mistake for me was I didn't educate [00:08:40] myself.
[00:08:40] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:08:40] Carol Alt: I listened to people, I watched the fads, I, I, I jumped and [00:08:45] tried everything instead of just sitting down and educating myself on the pathology of food, [00:08:50] how it works in your body, how your body works, what builds muscle, what [00:08:55] retains fat.
[00:08:56] Carol Alt: Th- education is the most important thing, and it's funny, it's the [00:09:00] one thing we don't get taught in school at all. No,
[00:09:02] Dr. Taz: we don't at all. All right, let's get into this raw [00:09:05] food. So when I hear raw food, and I don't know what you guys sitting at home or listening or watching [00:09:10] are thinking, but when I hear raw food, I'm thinking a lot of salads, a lot of vegetables.[00:09:15]
[00:09:15] Dr. Taz: Educate me. What is the raw food movement? What is the [00:09:20] raw food diet? How is it personalized? How does it retain muscle? How does it help burn fat? All the things you just- Oh my
[00:09:24] Carol Alt: God. [00:09:25] Yeah, I do hour-long lectures
[00:09:28] Dr. Taz: on this stuff. I'm like- We're gonna do it in 20 minutes. Let's go. No, so [00:09:30] no. Just, you know, those are some of my questions.
[00:09:32] Dr. Taz: I have a million, but let, start wherever you feel comfortable.
[00:09:34] Carol Alt: [00:09:35] Uh, well, you know, I lecture on this, so it's kind of, uh, there's, there's four things that [00:09:40] happen to food when you cook it. You know, cooking food is a, is a chemical [00:09:45] reaction. It's like putting a piece of wood in your fireplace and you light it on fire.
[00:09:48] Carol Alt: It starts out as wood, and then [00:09:50] through chemical reaction of heat, it becomes ash. Mm-hmm. And, and that's, that's all [00:09:55] the mole- molecules changing. So one, your molecules, the molecules in the food change, so your [00:10:00] body doesn't read it the same. The, uh, bonds between vitamins and minerals break, [00:10:05] so your body doesn't absorb the same.
[00:10:08] Carol Alt: It doesn't, uh... Do you [00:10:10] remember when, uh, uh, they, they, now, well, now they add, uh, calcium and vitamin D [00:10:15] and, uh, magnesium. They mix it together to make- Right ... your calcium- [00:10:20] Right ... because it doesn't absorb without vitamin D and magnesium. Right. They didn't know that, so they were just giving calcium to women [00:10:25] and nobody was getting a result.
[00:10:26] Carol Alt: Right. And then they went, "Oh, calcium is not recognized in the body without [00:10:30] vitamin D and magnesium."
[00:10:31] Dr. Taz: Right.
[00:10:31] Carol Alt: It's that way with every vitamin, every mineral in your [00:10:35] body, they're all intertwined, and heat breaks those bonds, so the body goes, "Hey, what's [00:10:40] this?" basically. Um, your food become, it goes from an alkaline.
[00:10:44] Carol Alt: [00:10:45] So l- let's take something like a tomato, which is a one alkaline, which is almost [00:10:50] acid, but it's, it's just slightly alkaline, but you cook it, it becomes a 10 double [00:10:55] crystalline oxalic acid. Mm. That's why we get such heartburn when we have- Right, right ... [00:11:00] spaghetti with tomato sauce, you know? And then, um, the enzymes are killed.
[00:11:04] Carol Alt: Yeah. And [00:11:05] really what that means, enzymes are like- [00:11:10] H- so it's like going to the bank every day and not putting anything in but taking money out
[00:11:14] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:11:14] Carol Alt: So if [00:11:15] you're putting food into your body every day that's cooked, it has no enzymes, the, the [00:11:20] molecular structure is all discombobulated, the vitamin, uh, the vitamin [00:11:25] mineral bonds are broken and it's really hard to absorb.
[00:11:27] Carol Alt: That means you're putting food into your body that your [00:11:30] body has to make its own vitamins and minerals, pulling pulling from [00:11:35] everywhere- Right,
[00:11:35] Dr. Taz: right ...
[00:11:36] Carol Alt: to make that enzyme to digest this basically bankrupt food. [00:11:40] And if you keep doing that, it's like going to the bank every single day, taking money out and never putting money [00:11:45] in.
[00:11:45] Carol Alt: Wow. At one point or another, depending on how much reserve you have, you're gonna go [00:11:50] bankrupt. And that's basically the bottom line of raw food. I don't eat [00:11:55] 100% raw food. I don't. Nobody can be 100% of anything. [00:12:00] Right. And if they tell you they're 100%- They're lying ... the only thing they are is 100% lying.
[00:12:03] Carol Alt: Exactly. All right. You [00:12:05] know, I, the, I know what I binge on.
[00:12:07] Dr. Taz: Yeah.
[00:12:08] Carol Alt: Hockey games, you know?
[00:12:09] Dr. Taz: Yeah. [00:12:10] Wait, what do you binge on? Popcorn. Popcorn?
[00:12:12] Carol Alt: At hockey games. You're
[00:12:12] Dr. Taz: a popcorn girl
[00:12:13] Carol Alt: too? I am a popcorn girl- Oh, that's my problem- ... at [00:12:15] hockey games ... too,
[00:12:15] Dr. Taz: yeah.
[00:12:15] Carol Alt: Yeah. Anyhow. But I take an enzyme before I do it- Oh ... so I don't draw my own enzymes out.
[00:12:19] Carol Alt: Ah, [00:12:20] okay. You know, when you understand, you know, what the body is and what food does in the [00:12:25] body, you can learn to counteract some of those things that, that you do, you know? [00:12:30] So it's really important to educate yourself. And so what is raw [00:12:35] food? Well, it's just about everything. I mean, anything that you eat cooked, I can find you [00:12:40] raw, including tiramisu.
[00:12:42] Carol Alt: Yeah, I know. I know. Look at, look [00:12:45]
[00:12:46] Dr. Taz: at your face. Wait, hang on a minute. I'm sitting here going, "Is tiramisu not raw?" So...
[00:12:48] Carol Alt: Tiramisu is not raw when you [00:12:50] get it. It's made of lady fingers- Yes ... which is, like, a vanilla wafer cookie, and it's made with [00:12:55] pasteurized, uh, I don't know, uh, um, all kinds of creams and- Right
[00:12:59] Carol Alt: what have you. [00:13:00] I can find it for you completely raw. And in fact, w- when I first brought it to my [00:13:05] mother's house, my mom was like, "Oh, don't bring your raw stuff, please." You know. Yeah. Raw, like everything, [00:13:10] has really come up in- Right ... in-
[00:13:12] Dr. Taz: Right ...
[00:13:14] Carol Alt: how it [00:13:15] tastes and the presentation of it- Right ... through the 30 or 40 years that I've been doing this.
[00:13:19] Dr. Taz: Right.
[00:13:19] Carol Alt: [00:13:20] So I found this, you know, amazing little place, it's in New York City, called Rawsome Treats, and [00:13:25] the girl was an MMA fighter.
[00:13:26] Dr. Taz: Oh
[00:13:26] Carol Alt: my gosh. Got my book. Wow, okay. Got my book. Her name is Watts, and, and [00:13:30] she got my book, and Watts, you know, when I first called, they said, she goes, "Okay, give me your name." I said, [00:13:35] "Carol Alt."
[00:13:35] Carol Alt: She goes, "No,
[00:13:36] Dr. Taz: wait, you're not
[00:13:37] Carol Alt: Carol Alt from Eating Raw?" She's like, "
[00:13:38] Dr. Taz: Stop playing a prank on [00:13:40] me right now."
[00:13:42] Carol Alt: I know. She's like, "Oh, my gosh." Yeah. "It was your book." Yeah. You know? "I was trying to suck wind." [00:13:45] Right. "You helped me so much." Right. But the food was terrible, so I, you know... And I make a lot of [00:13:50] my own stuff.
[00:13:50] Carol Alt: Right. Every morning, my own fabulous muffins.
[00:13:53] Dr. Taz: So, okay. So, so [00:13:55] define this out. Okay. What makes your muffin raw? What makes your tiramisu raw? What is a raw [00:14:00] protein source? Like, maybe, like-
[00:14:02] Carol Alt: Well, everything is practically protein. Okay. I mean, [00:14:05] legumes, like lentils or chickpeas or kidney beans, when they're not cooked, when they're not soft, [00:14:10] when they're hard like marbles-
[00:14:10] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm
[00:14:11] Carol Alt: that's in its raw state. Mm-hmm. You drop it in water, you let it soak for 12 hours. It's [00:14:15] just about sprouting, the little tail comes out. Mm-hmm, yep. That's sprouting. That's germinating. It's really [00:14:20] simple. It's drop it in water and walk away. That is all protein heavy. Protein
[00:14:24] Dr. Taz: heavy.
[00:14:24] Carol Alt: When you [00:14:25] cook it- It goes the other way.
[00:14:27] Carol Alt: It becomes carbo-heavy. Mm. So basically people are [00:14:30] thinking they're eating legumes- For
[00:14:32] Dr. Taz: protein ...
[00:14:32] Carol Alt: are, are right. They're not, unless they've germinated [00:14:35] them, you know? S- But also a lot of vegetables, broccoli, all these [00:14:40] vegetables in the raw state are pretty much protein heavy. They have a lot of [00:14:45] protein in them.
[00:14:46] Carol Alt: So, but I also eat fish. I'm not vegan.
[00:14:49] Dr. Taz: Right. '
[00:14:49] Carol Alt: Cause [00:14:50] my ancestry is German, and I've been- Right.
[00:14:52] Dr. Taz: So that's what goes on in a lot of people's brain. Yeah. Right? You're raw, you're [00:14:55] vegan. That's not true.
[00:14:56] Carol Alt: No.
[00:14:56] Dr. Taz: Okay.
[00:14:57] Carol Alt: You can be vegan. You can be raw. You can be [00:15:00] gluten-free.
[00:15:00] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:15:00] Carol Alt: You could be any version of any which way.
[00:15:03] Carol Alt: You can, uh, you know, e- be v- [00:15:05] v- you know, fish person. I have friends who are fruitarians. They only eat fruit. Mm-hmm. I had one who was a [00:15:10] breatharian. Don't even go there. You don't even wanna go there.
[00:15:14] Dr. Taz: Oh my God. Wow. [00:15:15] You
[00:15:16] Carol Alt: don't wanna go there, what he drinks.
[00:15:17] Dr. Taz: Okay. Okay? Breatharian.
[00:15:19] Carol Alt: Yeah.
[00:15:19] Dr. Taz: [00:15:20] Okay.
[00:15:20] Carol Alt: And it ain't white.
[00:15:23] Carol Alt: No, I mean, you know, there's, there's... I, [00:15:25] I, I call myself an extreme alternative, but- Right ... I'm not that extreme. Right. But, [00:15:30] you know, it's, i- there's, there's so many versions of what you can do, and there are many raw foodies who [00:15:35] are also vegan. I am not. Okay. My, my ancestry is, [00:15:40] is, uh, is, um, Scottish and French and German, and w- we're all [00:15:45] meat eaters, so I tend to eat meat, uh, or not meat, more fish, [00:15:50] you know, three times a week.
[00:15:51] Dr. Taz: But you eat raw fish?
[00:15:52] Carol Alt: Raw fish.
[00:15:52] Dr. Taz: And so
[00:15:53] Carol Alt: how do
[00:15:54] Dr. Taz: you prep- So carpaccio-
[00:15:54] Carol Alt: Carpa- Okay ... [00:15:55] or seared salmon. I drop it into my salads. I y- [00:16:00] you know, um, uh, tartares. Yeah. I love tartares. Love tartares. Yeah. And you could do [00:16:05] tartare with all kinds of things. You could do it with beef, and you could do it with fish. Don't try it with chicken.
[00:16:09] Dr. Taz: Yeah. [00:16:10] Ugh. Mm.
[00:16:10] Carol Alt: I, I avoid chicken. It's too much hormones for me. Yeah.
[00:16:12] Dr. Taz: Yeah.
[00:16:13] Carol Alt: But so yeah, I mean, there's so many [00:16:15] things you can do, but there's also amazing desserts. I make my muffins. [00:16:20] They've got four ingredients.
[00:16:21] Dr. Taz: What, what are they?
[00:16:22] Carol Alt: They're raw almond flour, which I can make- Mm-hmm ... or I [00:16:25] can order online. It has figs.
[00:16:27] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:16:28] Carol Alt: It has, uh, uh, [00:16:30] lemon with a little, sometime a little vanilla-
[00:16:33] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm ...
[00:16:33] Carol Alt: and, uh, raw chocolate [00:16:35] chips.
[00:16:35] Dr. Taz: You just mix it together.
[00:16:36] Carol Alt: I mix it together and throw it in the dehydrator, walk away, come back five or six hours [00:16:40] later, sometimes longer. Sometimes I like them really moist. It depends on what my guests like, too.
[00:16:44] Carol Alt: Mm. Some [00:16:45] people like really crunchy stuff and dry stuff, and other people like really moist, so it just depends [00:16:50] on how long I leave it in a dehydrator.
[00:16:51] Dr. Taz: Do you eat, like, the meats, like beef or [00:16:55] lamb or any of those guys, or no?
[00:16:56] Carol Alt: I occasionally eat beef.
[00:16:58] Dr. Taz: Okay.
[00:16:59] Carol Alt: But carpaccio- But again, a carpaccio style ... or tartare.
[00:16:59] Carol Alt: Right. Okay. Yeah. Gotcha. Tartare car-[00:17:00]
[00:17:03] Carol Alt: or carpaccio. I m- [00:17:05] mostly I like fish. I was never really, never really liked beef, [00:17:10] and I don't like the way we treat our animals. Right. It's really hard for me. Right. I, I, you know, I, I work with the Washington Heights [00:17:15] Cat Sanctuary. We rescue animals.
[00:17:16] Dr. Taz: Ah.
[00:17:17] Carol Alt: I support them, so it's really, it, it really [00:17:20] is hard.
[00:17:20] Carol Alt: And, uh, you know, it's hard being in the fashion industry because there's fur on everything. Right. Right. You
[00:17:24] Dr. Taz: know? Yeah. I,
[00:17:24] Carol Alt: [00:17:25] I... You know, we can't avoid it completely, but I, I really advocate [00:17:30] more humane treatment, for sure.
[00:17:31] Dr. Taz: So I'm gonna flip this on you for just a second. Sure. [00:17:35] So, uh, many systems of medicine, including conventional Western medicine...[00:17:40]
[00:17:40] Dr. Taz: Ayurveda is one. Chinese medicine is another one that I can think of very quickly... talk [00:17:45] about the burden of raw food on the gut.
[00:17:47] Carol Alt: Mm-hmm.
[00:17:47] Dr. Taz: That the gut, you know, has trouble with [00:17:50] this. Mm-hmm. What you're saying is, you know, very different from that. Mm. Explain that disconnect for me a little bit. Okay. [00:17:55]
[00:17:55] Carol Alt: Well, I understand as people get older, like we talked about before- Right
[00:17:59] Carol Alt: they have the [00:18:00] accumulation of everything they've done to their body. So if you're constantly eating cooked food and it's [00:18:05] constantly drawing out of your reserves, your, your hydrochloric acid and your [00:18:10] enzymes in your stomach are going to get weaker and weaker. So I can understand [00:18:15] as people get older, they don't advocate eating a lot of raw food because it's harder to [00:18:20] digest.
[00:18:20] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:18:21] Carol Alt: In my case, what I did, because I had terrible [00:18:25] digestion, I started with a, a lot of green powder and juices, and [00:18:30] juicing. Because juicing is the fastest way I know [00:18:35] to re-nutrition the body. Yes. Yeah, I agree. And I'm not talking about apple juice- Right ... and pear juice. Right. I'm [00:18:40] talking about the heavy-duty greens, kelp, and, and, you know, not just cucumber [00:18:45] alone.
[00:18:45] Carol Alt: I don't get that. I mean, y- you can't- Right ... you can't change the entire body, body with [00:18:50] one vegetable.
[00:18:50] Dr. Taz: Right.
[00:18:51] Carol Alt: You need a wide variety of everything. Put the peppers in there. I have [00:18:55] a, a seventh heaven soup that a friend of mine gave me the, uh, recipe for. It's in, in one of my [00:19:00] books.
[00:19:00] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:19:00] Carol Alt: It is so delicious, and it's, you know, basically all it is is you throw all these things in, you know, all [00:19:05] these vegetables into a blender and blend it, and it's so good.
[00:19:09] Carol Alt: And it's [00:19:10] so good for you. When people come to me and they say, "Oh, I have this kind of issue [00:19:15] or that kind of issue," I say, "Listen, you know, first of all, uh, I, I don't advocate talking [00:19:20] against your doctors."
[00:19:20] Dr. Taz: Right.
[00:19:21] Carol Alt: But to supplement whatever it is else that you are [00:19:25] doing, if you've got any kind of inflammatory issue, I'm talking about [00:19:30] cancer or- Right
[00:19:30] Carol Alt: or, um,
[00:19:32] Dr. Taz: uh- Autoimmune disease ...
[00:19:33] Carol Alt: autoimmune dis- You know ... well, more [00:19:35] like i- arthritis or- Yeah ... you know, all of these, you know, it... Aging.
[00:19:39] Dr. Taz: Right.
[00:19:39] Carol Alt: I [00:19:40] consider aging a disease. Mm-hmm. It's, it's the body breaking down, and if we can [00:19:45] rebuild and give the body what it needs, the body is so freaking brilliant. It's
[00:19:49] Dr. Taz: [00:19:50] amazing.
[00:19:50] Carol Alt: I mean, the universe- It's
[00:19:51] Dr. Taz: amazing,
[00:19:52] Carol Alt: yeah ... knows what it's doing. God, if you will. He [00:19:55] knows what he's doing. And you give the body what it needs, and you can [00:20:00] rebuild yourself, and it just depends on how dedicated you are. For me, I was [00:20:05] super-duper dedicated.
[00:20:05] Dr. Taz: Yeah.
[00:20:06] Carol Alt: But first because I fell, and I had to dig myself out of a hole.
[00:20:09] Dr. Taz: [00:20:10] Right.
[00:20:10] Carol Alt: But also because I was competing against those sucky little 20-year-olds- ... who were [00:20:15] stealing jobs from me. I was like, "Wait a
[00:20:18] Dr. Taz: minute." You're showing them.
[00:20:19] Carol Alt: [00:20:20] I was like, I- You're still
[00:20:20] Dr. Taz: showing them.
[00:20:21] Carol Alt: I wanna com-
[00:20:21] Dr. Taz: I don't even wanna ask you how old you are, but you look
[00:20:23] Carol Alt: incredible. I'm 64. You can [00:20:25] Google it. Oh
[00:20:25] Dr. Taz: my
[00:20:25] Carol Alt: gosh.
[00:20:25] Carol Alt: The only time I ever lied about my age by two years- ... when I walked away from the table, the guy [00:20:30] turned to my manager and said, "Should I tell her I know that she's 34?" Oh, my God. I'm like, "So I said I was 30." I mean, come on. I love it.[00:20:35]
[00:20:36] Carol Alt: Never again lie about your age. Love it. And now not in the age of [00:20:40] Google. I remember the first time somebody said, "Oh, we Googled you." I was like I'm on [00:20:45] Google
[00:20:45] Dr. Taz: I know
[00:20:47] Carol Alt: It's so exciting. It was like, yippee ki-yay, [00:20:50] I made Google.
[00:20:50] Dr. Taz: Well, okay, so 36 you go raw. You're trying to, like, get all these 20-year-olds out of your [00:20:55] way.
[00:20:55] Dr. Taz: What is the first few things that you noticed?
[00:20:58] Carol Alt: Oh my gosh. Listen, [00:21:00] you wanna, you wanna get the best comeuppance of your whole entire life-
[00:21:03] Dr. Taz: Yes ...
[00:21:04] Carol Alt: go raw for, [00:21:05] like, three months and walk into your mom's house. Best thing that ever happened to me. [00:21:10] My mom looked at me and she said, "What have you done?" And she didn't say Carol.
[00:21:13] Carol Alt: She said Carol Ann. [00:21:15] So I thought, "Oh."
[00:21:16] Dr. Taz: She means serious. What did I do? Yeah. The double name's come out.
[00:21:18] Carol Alt: It's serious. I know. Carol Ann. [00:21:20] Uh, and I said, I said, "What do you mean?" She goes, "You are starting to look [00:21:25] mortal." I was like, "Wow, my mom thought I, like, was [00:21:30] immortal," and I was starting to look mortal. [00:21:35] And now she thinks I look immortal again.
[00:21:38] Carol Alt: This is kinda pretty [00:21:40] cool. Oh,
[00:21:40] Dr. Taz: wow. So probably glowing.
[00:21:42] Carol Alt: Well, your skin comes back- Yeah ... your energy [00:21:45] comes back, that look in your eye.
[00:21:46] Dr. Taz: Yeah.
[00:21:47] Carol Alt: You know what I mean? The light. Yeah. Yeah, I realized I was walking down the street and [00:21:50] people are laugh- you know, smiling at me, and I'm like, "Do I have, like, broccoli on my face?"
[00:21:53] Carol Alt: Like, why are these people, like, looking at me and smiling? And I [00:21:55] realized it's 'cause I was like an idiot walking down the street with a smile on my face- Yeah ... 'cause it feels so good. You feel good, yeah. You have so [00:22:00] much energy, and you ... You know, for me it was about paying it forward. [00:22:05] My mom went raw. The minute she saw me, she said, "Okay, tell me what you did."
[00:22:07] Carol Alt: And, uh, I told her. My [00:22:10] boyfriend at the time, Alexei Yashin, he was, he was, uh, 13 years younger than I was. Um, I [00:22:15] was 38. He was 25. And one day he came to me and he said, "Okay." He said, "I [00:22:20] Googled how old you are." Yeah, I know. Googled how old you are. And I'm
[00:22:23] Dr. Taz: out.
[00:22:23] Carol Alt: No. [00:22:25] Yes. No, he said, "And I looked at you, and I look at other women."
[00:22:27] Carol Alt: Yeah. "And I'm, and I watch how you eat, [00:22:30] and can you explain this to me?"
[00:22:32] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:22:33] Carol Alt: And I explained it to him, [00:22:35] and he, boom, like, like over, he ... You know, but he's that [00:22:40] kinda Russian discipline- Right, right, right ... which I'm that kinda German discipline- Right ... kinda thing. [00:22:45] And, and, you know, he ... I, I got, I was shooting a series in Toronto.
[00:22:48] Carol Alt: I got on an [00:22:50] airplane with one day off and went over to help him because he called me up and said, "Oh my gosh, I [00:22:55] lost like 20 pounds. I, I'm, I'm dying." Mm. I'm like, "What? Why? What did you do? What'd you do?" He goes, "Well, you told me [00:23:00] if I did this," and I was like, oh my gosh, he went raw and not really, like, filling his house or [00:23:05] educating himself.
[00:23:05] Carol Alt: Right,
[00:23:05] Dr. Taz: right.
[00:23:06] Carol Alt: So I went over there and I showed him. I'm like, "Look, I could sear you a [00:23:10] steak." Yeah. Like, you know, you can g- get lots of fruit and vegetables, and that was back in the [00:23:15] day when there was nothing raw on the market.
[00:23:17] Dr. Taz: Right, right.
[00:23:17] Carol Alt: Now there's lots. I mean, they're, they're trying- More options ... to hit [00:23:20] every market.
[00:23:20] Carol Alt: Right. So they're gonna
[00:23:22] Dr. Taz: have lots of raw stuff. 'Cause everyone is so interested. Yeah. But to your [00:23:25] point, though, okay, someone listening to us talk today is like, "I wanna try this. I want, I wanna go raw." You know, [00:23:30] how do they begin? Like, what are the pitfalls? First thing, get rid
[00:23:31] Carol Alt: of all the garbage in your house.
[00:23:33] Dr. Taz: Garbage being, like, the [00:23:35] processed stuff? Or-
[00:23:35] Carol Alt: Yeah, get, get rid of all those habit-forming things that you have, like the [00:23:40] crackers and the chips and the things like the- Popcorn? Yep. Get, don't, if you don't have it around when you go [00:23:45] through that moment- That's true. See, I find when I fall into those moments, it's [00:23:50] because I didn't nutrition myself well enough.
[00:23:53] Dr. Taz: So true.
[00:23:53] Carol Alt: So I didn't eat [00:23:55] enough vegetables. I didn't eat enough meat. I, or You know what? You can eat a raw [00:24:00] tiramisu from Rawesome Treats, for example, and that could be your dinner. Mm. And it's more [00:24:05] nutritious for you. What's in that is more nutritious for you than, you know, having a spaghe- [00:24:10] plate of spaghetti or, you know, ham dinner.
[00:24:13] Carol Alt: I mean, it just... Because [00:24:15] that stuff's all cooked and there's- Right ... nothing in it. It's devoid. It's taking out of your body instead of putting in. [00:24:20] And here's this little cake with nuts and figs and coconut [00:24:25] and all these amazing things that is feeding your body, and by the way, [00:24:30] feeding your skin, hair, and nails.
[00:24:31] Dr. Taz: Right. '
[00:24:32] Carol Alt: Cause the body works on a hierarchy, [00:24:35] okay? So the first thing it does when it gets any little morsel of food [00:24:40] that it could use, it has to rebuild. It has to rebuild your muscle and your [00:24:45] organs and the ligaments that hold things. I mean, it goes for the really important things. The most important thing it goes for is [00:24:50] making enzymes to digest- Mm-hmm
[00:24:50] Carol Alt: more food, hoping to get something out of this food to rebuild your body. [00:24:55] You know, if you don't give yourself enough of all of these things, by the time it [00:25:00] comes to doing his skin, hair, and nails,
[00:25:02] Dr. Taz: It's done.
[00:25:03] Carol Alt: You're out of, you're out of luck. It's
[00:25:04] Dr. Taz: so interesting. [00:25:05] You
[00:25:05] Carol Alt: run out of gas, as they say.
[00:25:06] Dr. Taz: It's fascinating, 'cause, you know, I stare at this, you know, lab work all the [00:25:10] time, and the thing I keep coming back to, even in our children, by the way, not just adults, is the lack [00:25:15] of digestive enzymes.
[00:25:16] Dr. Taz: I talk about it over and over again. So many people are fat spilling, protein [00:25:20] spilling. They're not breaking foods down. And then in the children, what it's looking like is a lot [00:25:25] of the sensory stuff we're seeing, the lack of focus and all this, you know, anxiety, all these other things. In [00:25:30] adults, we're seeing the bloating, the weight gain.
[00:25:31] Dr. Taz: Well, it's a lack of
[00:25:31] Carol Alt: nutrition, I mean, 'cause the body's not able to- To
[00:25:34] Dr. Taz: absorb ...
[00:25:34] Carol Alt: use [00:25:35] all these things- Correct, yeah ... and, and rebuild itself and- It's
[00:25:38] Dr. Taz: so interesting ...
[00:25:38] Carol Alt: and, you know, if, if [00:25:40] you understand this Outside of a lab, okay, if you [00:25:45] understand this in terms of the body, then you understand that when you take in fats that have been cooked, the body goes, [00:25:50] "Oh, look at this.
[00:25:50] Carol Alt: I have a truckload size of something."
[00:25:53] Dr. Taz: Yeah. "
[00:25:54] Carol Alt: It [00:25:55] kinda looks like a fat. Well, let me pull all these [00:26:00] enzymes and minerals and everything from my body and digest this. Oh, wait, now that it's digested, it [00:26:05] kinda looks like fat. If I put these together over here, I got a Volkswagen size of fat." [00:26:10] Mm. "Let me make some more enzymes to digest that so I can utilize it."
[00:26:14] Carol Alt: What do [00:26:15] you do with the rest of those pieces from that giant truck that are not useful because they're all broken [00:26:20] up and the body can't figure out what to do with it? They store it in the adipose tissue. Mm. So now your adipose [00:26:25] tissue is absorbing this fat, and on men it's [00:26:30] the belly, on women it's the butt and the thighs.
[00:26:32] Dr. Taz: Yep.
[00:26:32] Carol Alt: Right? You know, that fat thigh feeling. Oh, yeah. Oh,
[00:26:34] Dr. Taz: [00:26:35] yes.
[00:26:35] Carol Alt: Oh, yeah. That's where it comes from.
[00:26:36] Dr. Taz: Yes. My story.
[00:26:37] Carol Alt: Right.
[00:26:37] Dr. Taz: Anyhow.
[00:26:37] Carol Alt: But you, you know, it, with, it, what people [00:26:40] don't understand about the cold pressed oils and fats that's so fascinating, and you know this as a clinician- [00:26:45] Right.
[00:26:45] Dr. Taz: Right ...
[00:26:45] Carol Alt: is that it can, it can do a preferential exchange.
[00:26:49] Carol Alt: [00:26:50] So if you're eating good fats, it can do a preferential exchange of old fats out of the [00:26:55] adipose tissue.
[00:26:56] Dr. Taz: Fascinating.
[00:26:57] Carol Alt: And slim you down. Mm-hmm. So all [00:27:00] these thoughts that we have about fat being fattening Not so true Not
[00:27:04] Dr. Taz: so [00:27:05] true
[00:27:05] Carol Alt: And Udo Erasmus wrote, uh, Udo Erasmus wrote the best book on this, and he [00:27:10] does, you know, Udo's Choice oil, which is one of my oils- Right
[00:27:12] Carol Alt: of choice. I love
[00:27:13] Dr. Taz: those oils.
[00:27:13] Carol Alt: Yeah. Such great
[00:27:14] Dr. Taz: oils. Yeah.
[00:27:14] Carol Alt: And his [00:27:15] daughter, Us, is a very good friend of mine. Oh, really? I'm, I'm- Oh my gosh ... godmother to her son. Amazing. Yeah. I mean, [00:27:20] I know a good thing when I find it. I got right into that family. I was like, right there. [00:27:25] Smart
[00:27:25] Dr. Taz: woman, obviously. I know
[00:27:26] Carol Alt: where my oils are boiled.
[00:27:28] Dr. Taz: Yeah.
[00:27:28] Carol Alt: Yeah.
[00:27:28] Dr. Taz: Well, okay. [00:27:30] So you're starting out. You said get rid of the processed stuff first- Yeah ... and all the junky stuff. [00:27:35] Next, where would you go next?
[00:27:36] Carol Alt: What I would do is, um, I would get all kinds of vegetables in a juicer-
[00:27:39] Dr. Taz: [00:27:40] Okay ...
[00:27:40] Carol Alt: so that I make sure I get my juices fresh, not pasteurized. Mm-hmm. It's completely different when it's [00:27:45] pasteurized.
[00:27:45] Carol Alt: You know, 212 degrees Fahrenheit at 12 hours kills any enzymes- Mm ... [00:27:50] as well as any bacteria. And then I would, I would test stuff. [00:27:55] And if you've got children, take your children with you. Test all these raw things. Test the [00:28:00] raw pickles as opposed to the cooked pickles. Mm. You know? Um, make things. [00:28:05] On, on my Instagram at
[00:28:06] Dr. Taz: modelcarolalt.
[00:28:07] Dr. Taz: Love [00:28:10] it.
[00:28:10] Carol Alt: I did- I
[00:28:11] Dr. Taz: follow now.
[00:28:11] Carol Alt: Yes. Modelcarolalt. Oh, yeah. Um, I did, [00:28:15] during COVID, I did, uh, you know, 200 recipes.
[00:28:18] Dr. Taz: Wow.
[00:28:19] Carol Alt: And, [00:28:20] you know, it's, it's so great to get your kids involved. Instead of saying, [00:28:25] "Here, you have to eat this, it's raw," say, "What tastes good to you?"
[00:28:28] Dr. Taz: Right. "
[00:28:28] Carol Alt: What do you [00:28:30] like? Do you like corn? Let's try some corn.
[00:28:33] Carol Alt: Let's make this [00:28:35] radish out of corn," or, uh, relish, sorry, "relish out of corn."
[00:28:37] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm. "
[00:28:37] Carol Alt: Oh, do you like guacamole? By the [00:28:40] way, do you know you can take an avocado, add some Zint raw chocolate..." And [00:28:45] by the way, I don't get paid for any of these
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[00:28:51] Carol Alt: 'cause then you all order it and I can't get it. Free tips, right? Yes. Then I can't get it when I need it.
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[00:28:55] Carol Alt: But Zint does a r- you know, a regular chocolate and a raw chocolate powder.
[00:28:58] Dr. Taz: Uh-huh.
[00:28:59] Carol Alt: Put [00:29:00] that into your avocado with a little bit of honey and you got the most outrageous mousse. Yum. [00:29:05] Just don't tell anybody what it is until after they eat it- Yeah
[00:29:08] Carol Alt: because in their brain they go, "Oh,
[00:29:09] Dr. Taz: [00:29:10] avocado." Right.
[00:29:10] Carol Alt: And I know, 'cause I was one of those people. Oh my gosh.
[00:29:12] Dr. Taz: Same.
[00:29:13] Carol Alt: I was like, "I can't think of [00:29:15] avocado as anything but guacamole." So
[00:29:16] Dr. Taz: when you're juicing these vegetables, you, like, you're running it through a juicer. You're not [00:29:20] retaining the pulp or anything like that.
[00:29:21] Carol Alt: Nope. Okay. Because you're talking about these [00:29:25] ayurvedics and all these other disciplines- Right ... who probably could be right that we're [00:29:30] having trouble digesting stuff, so you don't want the pulp. You want the nutrition. You just
[00:29:33] Dr. Taz: want it to go straight to the cell.
[00:29:34] Carol Alt: [00:29:35] You want the nutrition. Okay. Which is why you don't wanna do it with, with fruit juices because it's too much sugar [00:29:40] too fast for the body.
[00:29:41] Carol Alt: Mm. And then you get an insulin reaction. But, um, no, the, you want [00:29:45] the vegetables and you want, you want to juice. I juiced for three months- [00:29:50] Every day, three times a day, kamikaze these little- Mm-hmm ... you know, Greens [00:29:55] Plus and Garden of Eden has them. I think even Elle Macpherson has one. Elle, you owe me one. Um, [00:30:00] has, has these green powders.
[00:30:01] Dr. Taz: Right.
[00:30:02] Carol Alt: And I was kamikaze-ing them three times a day, and then finally my [00:30:05] doctor came to me and said, "Okay, you know, you're ready to... You're ready for a seven-day fast." And I almost, [00:30:10] like, I fought and screamed and- So he was- ... spit at him and kicked and-
[00:30:13] Dr. Taz: He was
[00:30:13] Carol Alt: re- ... pulled his hair
[00:30:14] Dr. Taz: and- Overnutri- he [00:30:15] was nutrient optimizing you.
[00:30:16] Dr. Taz: Yep. Then the fast. And then the fast. Why did, why did he want you to fast?
[00:30:19] Carol Alt: [00:30:20] Because he wanted to start cutting toxins out of my body. Ah. That's
[00:30:23] Dr. Taz: what I thought.
[00:30:23] Carol Alt: Yeah. You know, day five of [00:30:25] a fast... Now, first of all, you never should go into a fast-
[00:30:27] Dr. Taz: Straight ...
[00:30:28] Carol Alt: straight. I
[00:30:28] Dr. Taz: say that all
[00:30:28] Carol Alt: the time. You always have to [00:30:30] wind down off of food.
[00:30:32] Carol Alt: Correct. Um, I did a lot of psyllium and green powders [00:30:35] for five, for seven days. By day five, you're cutting into the liver. I mean, you speak to [00:30:40] anybody on day five of a fast and they're really nasty. Mm-hmm. They're, "Ar," you know? Right. And you're like, "Oh, day five, huh?" [00:30:45] Yeah. You know? It is. It, you know, it, that's the way- Right
[00:30:47] Carol Alt: the body works. And I [00:30:50] remember driving up and down Santa Monica Boulevard, and they had a Boston Chicken. [00:30:55] And I was like, "I just need to smell the chicken. I mean, I just, I need chicken. Oh, my God." I was [00:31:00] like a junkie. I was like... And I called up Dr. Brantley and I said, I said, "Timothy," like, [00:31:05] "what is this? Like, I just want chicken.
[00:31:06] Carol Alt: I just like-" ... anything with like a... I'll just lick my [00:31:10] fingers. Right. I just need chicken. And he said, "Yeah."
[00:31:13] Dr. Taz: Day five.
[00:31:13] Carol Alt: Because you're cutting [00:31:15] into the toxins in your body, and when you're, when you're blocked to get that stuff out, [00:31:20] it spins around in your blood system, and it goes to your brain, and it [00:31:25] triggers- Mm
[00:31:25] Carol Alt: a memory. That's where these cravings when you're, when you're [00:31:30] fasting-
[00:31:30] Dr. Taz: Stressed or
[00:31:31] Carol Alt: fasted, yeah ... they, they, that's where they come from.
[00:31:33] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:31:33] Carol Alt: And when your liver, which is, uh, [00:31:35] really the only sewer system, it's really the only way to get the garbage [00:31:40] out-
[00:31:40] Dr. Taz: The laundromat, I call it. The laundromat of the body. I
[00:31:41] Carol Alt: call it the sewer.
[00:31:42] Carol Alt: Yeah. It's the only way to get the- Sewer
[00:31:43] Dr. Taz: might be stronger, but-
[00:31:44] Carol Alt: Well, but it [00:31:45] is. I mean, what comes out? Right, exactly. Everything goes into the sewer. Yeah,
[00:31:48] Dr. Taz: pretty
[00:31:48] Carol Alt: much. Starts here. [00:31:50] Yeah. So, you know, you wanna keep that as clean as possible so [00:31:55] it doesn't kick the toxins back out into your blood and spin it around and [00:32:00] give you a craving for all that nasty, horrible stuff.
[00:32:03] Dr. Taz: I love the idea of vegetable juicing. [00:32:05] You know, if someone wants to do this in an intermediate way, could they start to take their [00:32:10] meats and to take some of their stuff and instead of- Yeah, start
[00:32:12] Carol Alt: searing things ...
[00:32:12] Dr. Taz: I was gonna say, instead of, like, full out [00:32:15] grilling- See- ... just sear it or something like
[00:32:16] Carol Alt: that ... Dr.
[00:32:16] Carol Alt: Taz, you're right because- Yeah ... I, I go, I go for more like, [00:32:20] I get people can eat a fish and they'll [00:32:25] understand that, you know, seared fish is raw inside. Right. They'll get that. What they don't get is all the [00:32:30] other stuff, like how do I get my dessert? Right. How do I get... You know, I'm sitting down at TV, I [00:32:35] want something to nosh on.
[00:32:36] Carol Alt: Right. You know? I get raw nuts. I, [00:32:40] uh, like I said, I do-
[00:32:40] Dr. Taz: Wait, wait, wait. What's a raw nut versus a regular nut?
[00:32:43] Carol Alt: Oh, well, you know, when they roast them. Sounds [00:32:45] like a joke. You know? When they roast them. Ah, okay. Well, nuts is all nut oils. Right. So if you're roasting them, you're cooking oils. [00:32:50] Now you gotta digest it, now you gotta make the enzymes, now, you know what I mean?
[00:32:53] Carol Alt: Yeah, the whole
[00:32:53] Dr. Taz: thing again.
[00:32:53] Carol Alt: Right. Yeah, okay. So, you know, [00:32:55] just decide... I, I get a whole mixture of nuts. I drop raisins and cranberries in it, and I [00:33:00] mix it all up. Sometimes I put, uh, uh, dark chocolate chips in it.
[00:33:04] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:33:04] Carol Alt: [00:33:05] And you make a trail mix. I mean, it's so easy. Sounds
[00:33:07] Dr. Taz: so easy.
[00:33:07] Carol Alt: Yeah, you put it in a bowl and you can eat that while you're [00:33:10] watching television or if you have friends over.
[00:33:12] Carol Alt: You could do a whole crudité with all kinds of... I, I did, like, I, [00:33:15] in one of my books, I think I had, like, 15 or 20 different sauces for dipping in. I mean, it's, [00:33:20] it's out there. The information is out there. It's there. It's so much easier than when I started. When I started- [00:33:25] Right ... there was zero. I had to make everything.
[00:33:27] Dr. Taz: From scratch.
[00:33:28] Carol Alt: Mm-hmm.
[00:33:29] Dr. Taz: So [00:33:30] bodybuilders are raw. Mo- models can be raw. Who should not be raw? [00:33:35]
[00:33:35] Carol Alt: Anybody who is more, um, alkaline, [00:33:40] and y- you know, I always said my boyfriend, he was, uh, pretty like doo-doo doo-doo. Mm-hmm. You [00:33:45] know? You know those people- Oh, yeah. Uh-huh ... that
[00:33:46] Dr. Taz: are
[00:33:47] Carol Alt: like, "Okay, we'll get there when we get there."
[00:33:48] Carol Alt: Yeah. I mean, I wish I had a little of that.
[00:33:49] Dr. Taz: [00:33:50] I wish I had that too.
[00:33:50] Carol Alt: Yeah. It's so nice. I don't have that. But, you know, if they're alkaline [00:33:55] people, um, then y- you know, you don't need as much raw, but it's [00:34:00] always good to have raw.
[00:34:02] Dr. Taz: Do you test your acidity and [00:34:05] alkalinity?
[00:34:05] Carol Alt: Oh, I did, yeah, I used to do all the time.
[00:34:07] Carol Alt: Now I- How would
[00:34:07] Dr. Taz: you test it?
[00:34:08] Carol Alt: Now I can feel it. You [00:34:10] can feel
[00:34:10] Dr. Taz: it.
[00:34:10] Carol Alt: But, you know, you get pH papers. Yeah. And they sell them online now. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I used to have to seek [00:34:15] out a pharmacy that would have them and not mind selling them to me and, you know, you take [00:34:20] between 8:00 and 10:00 in the morning, 2:00 and 4:00 in the afternoon, 8:00 and 10:00 at night, your saliva and your pee.[00:34:25]
[00:34:25] Carol Alt: N- not around food, not around brushing your teeth, not around water. You take them clean, [00:34:30] and you write them down.
[00:34:31] Dr. Taz: And track them.
[00:34:32] Carol Alt: And, and you can track them. So, um, y- you [00:34:35] really wanna be optimal is supposed to be between, uh, 6.8 and [00:34:40] 7.2. I was a 5.5.
[00:34:41] Dr. Taz: Ooh.
[00:34:41] Carol Alt: I was so proud. I was like, "Look at this, I'm [00:34:45] blue."
[00:34:45] Dr. Taz: And Dr.
[00:34:46] Dr. Taz: Ting was like, "That is not
[00:34:47] Carol Alt: good." That's not great. I'm like, "What do you mean? It's so pretty." Yeah, that's not great. No, [00:34:50] no. You wanna be yellow. And that yellow took me [00:34:55] 25 years to do, 30 years to do.
[00:34:57] Dr. Taz: Wow. And-
[00:34:58] Carol Alt: Only recently did my [00:35:00] doctor say to me, "You know, okay, you need to eat a little more cooked because you swung from [00:35:05] way acid to way alkaline."
[00:35:07] Carol Alt: And I could feel it because when [00:35:10] you're, when you're really alkaline, you get kind of a little apathetic, you know, a little depressed, [00:35:15] you know?
[00:35:15] Dr. Taz: Versus acidic. How are you?
[00:35:16] Carol Alt: Versus us.
[00:35:17] Dr. Taz: Yeah.
[00:35:18] Carol Alt: Two crazy women running around- ... the [00:35:20] city trying to do podcasts and- Everything
[00:35:22] Dr. Taz: in the world. I
[00:35:23] Carol Alt: love
[00:35:23] Dr. Taz: it ...
[00:35:24] Carol Alt: and [00:35:25] clinicians and actresses.
[00:35:26] Carol Alt: All that. You know, all those, all those crazy- All those crazy things ... A-type pers- personalities. Yeah.
[00:35:29] Dr. Taz: [00:35:30] Well, I wanna bring you back. I took you back to 36, but I wanna bring you back to now and how you noticed [00:35:35] right around 60. And 60's a really important age, by the way. I don't know if you saw the study that said there are two big [00:35:40] transitional ages.
[00:35:40] Dr. Taz: 44 is one. 40. Mm-hmm. 60. And then 60 is the other one. So at 60 you started [00:35:45] noticing changes. You had already been raw. What did you have to dial back into? [00:35:50]
[00:35:50] Carol Alt: Um, it wasn't that. It, what, what it really was is I noticed [00:35:55] most of my girlfriends complaining about it. Mm. So I had girlfriends calling me [00:36:00] up saying, "Oh my gosh, I hit 60 and where'd my energy go?
[00:36:03] Carol Alt: At 20 I didn't mind running [00:36:05] downtown and filing this brief, but now it's like I'm 60, I don't wanna be doing this." You know, for [00:36:10] me, um, my priorities changed a lot. I became way more spiritual. I [00:36:15] became less, I don't know, um, aggressive with stuff. I w- I wanna do [00:36:20] things with people who are happy and fun- Mm
[00:36:22] Carol Alt: and enjoying what they're doing. [00:36:25] I don't wanna waste my time with nasty, angry people anymore. Right. I mean, I spent my whole life around those kind of [00:36:30] people. I, I just don't wanna do it anymore. But I did notice, uh, a little on my skin, [00:36:35] so I went, "Okay, what rebuilds skin? Oils." So I upped [00:36:40] my oils. Um, you know, the doctor said don't do any more raw because I was already [00:36:45] swinging that way, so I just keep nutritioning.
[00:36:47] Dr. Taz: So you do... What type of oils do you [00:36:50] like to use?
[00:36:50] Carol Alt: I love The Oros Choice. Right. And, uh, I hand carry my cold pressed olive [00:36:55] oils back from Italy.
[00:36:56] Dr. Taz: You do? Mm-hmm. It's different.
[00:36:57] Carol Alt: Mm-hmm.
[00:36:58] Dr. Taz: They're so d- why is it different? [00:37:00]
[00:37:00] Carol Alt: First of all, I don't think the Italians are stupid enough to give us their first cold [00:37:05] pressed.
[00:37:05] Carol Alt: I think they just- It is
[00:37:06] Dr. Taz: so d-
[00:37:06] Carol Alt: Way older ... every
[00:37:07] Dr. Taz: time I go there, it's completely different.
[00:37:08] Carol Alt: You know? But- Well, I think [00:37:10] airplane, you know, pressure changes things. But, um- [00:37:15] Also, I think that a, a lot of companies, and you gotta be very careful. What I do is I take my [00:37:20] olive oil, if I have to buy it here, if I've run out, um, I usually [00:37:25] like Bragg's, they, they're usually pretty good except they have it in a clear bottle.
[00:37:28] Carol Alt: It should always be in a green bottle to [00:37:30] block the sun. Mm-hmm. But I throw it in the refrigerator.
[00:37:32] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:37:32] Carol Alt: And if after three or four days it doesn't get [00:37:35] slush, you know, like it doesn't- Yeah ... solidify, not frozen, but that, the, then, um, [00:37:40] whatever oil's rise to the top is the junk oil that they're cutting it with.
[00:37:44] Carol Alt: So you always have [00:37:45] to be careful with your olive oil, and just don't open it, throw it in the refrigerator, and [00:37:50] make sure that it all slushes.
[00:37:51] Dr. Taz: Oh, that's a great hack.
[00:37:53] Carol Alt: Yeah.
[00:37:53] Dr. Taz: So put it in the refrigerator.
[00:37:54] Carol Alt: Mm-hmm. [00:37:55]
[00:37:55] Dr. Taz: Keep it there for a few days.
[00:37:56] Carol Alt: Yeah.
[00:37:56] Dr. Taz: And whatever comes to the top-
[00:37:58] Carol Alt: Yeah, if, if, if anything, it shouldn't have [00:38:00] anything
[00:38:00] Carol Alt: should, nothing should come to the top. Yeah Olive oil should not be left in the refrigerator. I mean, you could freeze it- Right. Right ... and, and hold [00:38:05] onto it.
[00:38:05] Dr. Taz: Right.
[00:38:05] Carol Alt: But it, y- it's not an oil that needs to be refrigerated. You could leave it on [00:38:10] your counter, as you know.
[00:38:11] Dr. Taz: Right.
[00:38:11] Carol Alt: Right. Udo's Choice has to be in the f- refrigerator, [00:38:15] and it doesn't slush.
[00:38:16] Carol Alt: Mm. So if y- if they're cutting your olive [00:38:20] oil with any kind of other oils, any seed oils or nut oils, they [00:38:25] don't slush.
[00:38:26] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:38:26] Carol Alt: So they'll rise to the top, and then you know that your olive oil's [00:38:30] been cut- It's been cut ... with seeds or nuts.
[00:38:31] Dr. Taz: Gotcha.
[00:38:32] Carol Alt: So- Is
[00:38:32] Dr. Taz: olive oil your favorite oil?
[00:38:34] Carol Alt: Love it.
[00:38:34] Dr. Taz: What about [00:38:35] ghee?
[00:38:35] Carol Alt: I put it on my skin.
[00:38:36] Carol Alt: I love olive oil. I put it, I mean, I-
[00:38:37] Dr. Taz: Yeah ...
[00:38:38] Carol Alt: I do my liver cleanses with [00:38:40]
[00:38:40] Dr. Taz: it. What, what's your take on, like, the saturated oils or the medium chain oils, [00:38:45] like coconut oil or ghee or beef tallow is trending right now. [00:38:50] What's your, what's your take on all that stuff?
[00:38:51] Carol Alt: Well, like I said, the closer you can eat to God.
[00:38:54] Dr. Taz: Yeah.
[00:38:54] Carol Alt: That's, [00:38:55] that's really what I look at, and I do like, uh, unrefined- [00:39:00] Coconut oil. I used to drink an amazing drink that's in my first book, Eating in the Raw, with the green [00:39:05] powders and, um-
[00:39:06] Dr. Taz: I think I read that book. Mmm. I did.
[00:39:09] Carol Alt: Like, everybody in the [00:39:10] world- Yeah ... read that book. Yeah. I'm so grateful because it was, you know, not me.
[00:39:13] Dr. Taz: What year was that?
[00:39:14] Carol Alt: It was, uh, [00:39:15] 2005.
[00:39:15] Dr. Taz: Yeah, I read that book.
[00:39:17] Carol Alt: Yeah. I
[00:39:17] Dr. Taz: loved it.
[00:39:17] Carol Alt: I mean, I, I owed a big one for saving my [00:39:20] life.
[00:39:20] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:39:20] Carol Alt: So, um, y- you know, we, we, it was this amazing drink with, with, uh, [00:39:25] young coconut and, I mean, it was just so good. Yeah. And then one day, I just couldn't drink it [00:39:30] anymore. Mm-hmm. I had just saturated to the point where I was good and moved on, you know?
[00:39:34] Carol Alt: [00:39:35] And your body will tell you when all of a sudden- Right ... you go like, "I can't even look at that green drink that I had four of [00:39:40] yesterday, you know? I can't even look at it."
[00:39:41] Dr. Taz: So the oils are a beauty hack. Mm. What, what else?
[00:39:44] Carol Alt: [00:39:45] Water.
[00:39:45] Dr. Taz: Going raw, oils, water.
[00:39:46] Carol Alt: I use... The only other way I could think of [00:39:50] somebody, you know, with any kind of, um, uh, inflammatory issues, uh, [00:39:55] is, you know, I always say Essentia because it's a 9.5.
[00:39:59] Carol Alt: Mm-hmm. I have my own [00:40:00] system where I make my own alkaline water, but-
[00:40:02] Dr. Taz: Wait, how do you do that?
[00:40:03] Carol Alt: Um, y- you know, it, it- We
[00:40:04] Dr. Taz: need to be in [00:40:05] the kitchen for this. Yeah. Where are we, why are we in a studio? We need to be in a kitchen, like, mixing things
[00:40:09] Carol Alt: and doing things. I know, I [00:40:10] know. Yeah. There you
[00:40:10] Dr. Taz: go.
[00:40:11] Carol Alt: Um, well, it's a machine.
[00:40:12] Carol Alt: Okay. So we got... You know, I, I filter my water, and it's under the [00:40:15] sink, so I don't have to carry bottles of water. You don't have to do all that. Okay. No. I call my girlfriends. I'm like, "Listen, for two [00:40:20] grand, you don't ever have to carry a bottle of water again, you know?" Yeah. "You can just make your own water."
[00:40:23] Dr. Taz: Yeah.
[00:40:23] Carol Alt: But if, [00:40:25] if you're going to do it, if you're going to, you know, if you can't do that and you can't afford that, 'cause I [00:40:30] understand what kind of s- you know, d- Right ... what, I, I, I get what the sign of the times are. [00:40:35] Um, Essentia water is, is a 9.5, and that's [00:40:40] alkaline.
[00:40:40] Dr. Taz: Okay.
[00:40:40] Carol Alt: So, you know, like we talked before, 4 or 5.5- Right
[00:40:43] Carol Alt: or under, uh, [00:40:45] 7.0 is m- more of the acidic, and 7.0 and up to [00:40:50] 8.0 is more of the alkaline. So this is, like, a 9.5. [00:40:55] So-
[00:40:55] Dr. Taz: When people are grabbing bottles of water, you know, off the grocery store shelf or getting [00:41:00] water at a restaurant, what's wrong with that water?
[00:41:03] Carol Alt: Well, usually it's in a plastic bottle. I [00:41:05] always like to go for glass bottles.
[00:41:05] Carol Alt: Glass and aluminum. Yeah. Which is- Yeah ... usually why I carry my own.
[00:41:08] Dr. Taz: Yeah.
[00:41:09] Carol Alt: I didn't carry it [00:41:10] here. I see we got plastic bottles, but- I
[00:41:11] Dr. Taz: know.
[00:41:13] Carol Alt: You know, you gotta live too.
[00:41:14] Dr. Taz: Right. Right, [00:41:15] right, right.
[00:41:15] Carol Alt: The things that I'm talking about are not things that you have to, like, I can't have water- 100%, [00:41:20] right ... because it's in g-
[00:41:21] Dr. Taz: Right.
[00:41:21] Carol Alt: I, it's what you do most of the time. [00:41:25] That gives the body its benefit or its detriment.
[00:41:28] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:41:29] Carol Alt: It's what you do [00:41:30] most of the time. So these are the things I aim for most of the [00:41:35] time, and sometimes I'm a real jerk about it.
[00:41:37] Dr. Taz: Right. You're on- Or- ... the bus, you're off the bus sometimes,
[00:41:39] Carol Alt: [00:41:40] right? Right. Yeah, yeah. I get into the restaurant, my girlfriends are like, "Okay, do you have your olive oil and your salt with you?"
[00:41:43] Carol Alt: I'm like, "Of course I [00:41:45]
[00:41:45] Dr. Taz: do." So you bring that to the restaurant?
[00:41:46] Carol Alt: I do. Wait, what are you- Carry a bag anyway ...
[00:41:48] Dr. Taz: wait, what are you doing with it? What are you doing with the [00:41:50] olive oil? What are you doing?
[00:41:50] Carol Alt: I know no matter what restaurant I go to with my olive oil and salt, I can eat
[00:41:54] Dr. Taz: [00:41:55] something.
[00:41:55] Carol Alt: Yeah, I can have a salad.
[00:41:57] Dr. Taz: And you put it on top. Gotcha. Will you [00:42:00] eat the bread at the restaurant? No. Do you make
[00:42:02] Carol Alt: bread? And I'm a bread eater.
[00:42:04] Dr. Taz: Is there [00:42:05] raw bread?
[00:42:05] Carol Alt: There's, um, sprouted bread.
[00:42:07] Dr. Taz: Okay.
[00:42:08] Carol Alt: Yeah, sprouted, raw breads. Yeah. Um, Manna bread [00:42:10] used to be raw. Ezekiel bread used to be raw. Now I call it, like, a bridge [00:42:15] food. Mm. So it's got great ingredients, but in order to keep up with its [00:42:20] popularity, they started cooking it instead of dehydrating it.
[00:42:22] Carol Alt: But I make... I mean, I make my own crackers, my [00:42:25] own breads. Y- y- I mean, it's everything you could... The h- dehydrator's the most amazing thing. It's
[00:42:29] Dr. Taz: amazing. Yeah.
[00:42:29] Carol Alt: Why not? You [00:42:30] can make anything. And my muffins, I mean- breakfast and dinner.
[00:42:34] Dr. Taz: You do [00:42:35] all of that? Okay.
[00:42:35] Carol Alt: Yeah, my friends are like, "Let's go out to dinner."
[00:42:36] Carol Alt: I'm like, "I have to have my muffin first."
[00:42:38] Dr. Taz: Oh my gosh.
[00:42:39] Carol Alt: You know? And [00:42:40] that's another trick, you know, I, I eat a muffin before I go out to dinner so I make sure I don't overeat because [00:42:45] they're so nutritiously dense that it fills you up.
[00:42:49] Dr. Taz: So what [00:42:50] I'm hearing from you, which is so fascinating to me, as somebody who has to look at [00:42:55] patients and labs and conditions and all this other stuff, right?
[00:42:58] Dr. Taz: Is that it's really [00:43:00] about optimizing your nutrition and optimizing it using raw foods because [00:43:05] they have, you know, probably ounce per ounce more nutrition than something cooked, and [00:43:10] then bringing back in that fundamental principle of gut health, where we're destroying our enzymes [00:43:15] by eating so much cooked food.
[00:43:16] Dr. Taz: That's really- That's it
[00:43:17] Carol Alt: in a nutshell ...
[00:43:18] Dr. Taz: that's really the-
[00:43:18] Carol Alt: Why didn't you say it at the top of the [00:43:20] show? Because it's so interesting. We didn't have to sit here for so long. It's so interesting. All right, we gotta do- And here, here's one more thing. Go ahead. [00:43:25] Okay?
[00:43:25] Dr. Taz: Go.
[00:43:25] Carol Alt: Because you talked about people not being able to digest stuff.
[00:43:28] Carol Alt: Right. There's plenty, [00:43:30] plenty of digestive enzymes. Where? And I still take them.
[00:43:33] Dr. Taz: What's your favorite?
[00:43:34] Carol Alt: Um, [00:43:35] you know, I get one from Klaire Labs.
[00:43:37] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:43:37] Carol Alt: K-L-A-I-R-E. We have those in our practice. Klaire Labs. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. I love [00:43:40] those. Yeah. Um, but I also do, like, you know, so many enzymes. So many enzymes. I had [00:43:45] health issues, so I'm on a huge enzyme and supplement.
[00:43:48] Carol Alt: And you know, I get my hair [00:43:50] tested- Mm-hmm ... to make sure that I'm with the right supplements. I, I'm not crazy over [00:43:55] daily, you know, one a, one a day daily vitamins- Right, right ... because you don't- I don't know how
[00:43:59] Dr. Taz: much of that people are [00:44:00] absorbing.
[00:44:00] Carol Alt: That's part of it. Yeah. Like, you might need vitamin D and I don't- Right
[00:44:03] Carol Alt: but it's in the pill, so I'm paying for it, but [00:44:05] I'm not utilizing it, you know? Right. Um, so that's why I pr- but if you're not doing anything, [00:44:10] it's better than nothing.
[00:44:11] Dr. Taz: Correct. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:44:11] Carol Alt: And, and you know, but top of the line for me is [00:44:15] the, the, you know, good water, um, doing your, your juices. Good oils. Good [00:44:20] juices.
[00:44:20] Carol Alt: Um, you know, make your, you know, sear everything, or i- if you can [00:44:25] have tartares or carpaccios, I mean, don't knock it until you tried it because everybody goes, "Eh, raw fish," [00:44:30] and but it's so delicious and there's so many ways you can- Mm-hmm ... you could cure it.
[00:44:33] Dr. Taz: Yeah.
[00:44:34] Carol Alt: Get [00:44:35] gravlox instead of smoked salmon, and they taste exactly the same.
[00:44:38] Dr. Taz: So fascinating.
[00:44:39] Carol Alt: [00:44:40] Open your brain. Open your mind. Open
[00:44:41] Dr. Taz: up. Expand the
[00:44:42] Carol Alt: universe.
[00:44:42] Dr. Taz: Well, it's kind of going back to the way we [00:44:45] used to eat, right? Closer you eat to
[00:44:46] Carol Alt: God.
[00:44:46] Dr. Taz: Like, closer we eat to God. You did bring something up and I, and I had it in my mind. [00:44:50] Ahead.
[00:44:50] Carol Alt: Sorry. I keep
[00:44:50] Dr. Taz: digressing. No, no, no. I want... No, this is fascinating to me.
[00:44:53] Dr. Taz: So you mentioned your [00:44:55] ancestry. And how they were meat eaters. How much of that do you think is playing [00:45:00] into how people should eat? It doesn't sound like you did formal testing, like the blood type diet or this or that- No ... or [00:45:05] any of those
[00:45:05] Carol Alt: other things. Well, Price Waterhouse did, did a lot of that footwork for me.
[00:45:08] Carol Alt: So, you know, he, he traveled [00:45:10] around the world, and he found that when the Eskimos ate their fermented [00:45:15] fish that they had left in the ice for months and came back and ate it, they were totally [00:45:20] healthy. No cancer, no inflammatory disease, nothing, because that's what they were used to eating. That's what their [00:45:25] bodies were used to digesting, and it was perfect.
[00:45:27] Carol Alt: But the minute that we introduced our, you [00:45:30] know, carbo-heavy diet- Right ... with the g- heavy grains and whatnot that were cooked and, you know, [00:45:35] basically homogenized, and, and i- t- he, they, they got very [00:45:40] sick. And then he traveled down to the rainforest where people were, you know, a mile [00:45:45] from a river and didn't even know the river was there 'cause the Amazon jungle was so thick, and they were digging up tubular [00:45:50] plants, and they could only eat plants.
[00:45:51] Carol Alt: They couldn't have the fish- Mm-hmm ... an, that was fermented. They couldn't ha- [00:45:55] they ate all vegetables, and the minute you introduced fish or grains to [00:46:00] them, they became- They got sick, yeah ...
[00:46:01] Dr. Taz: sick. Yeah.
[00:46:02] Carol Alt: And so he traveled around the world looking [00:46:05] at the different places and how they ate, and the effect of modernization on all of [00:46:10] these indigenous peoples and on all these different countries and all these different eth- [00:46:15] ethnicities.
[00:46:15] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:46:15] Carol Alt: And he found that the closer you could eat to your ancestor ... Now, the [00:46:20] problem with that is that in, like, the 1950s and ... I would say more like the [00:46:25] 1950s, we started moving. We s- we, we became less of a [00:46:30] farming community-
[00:46:30] Dr. Taz: Right ...
[00:46:31] Carol Alt: where you drank the milk right from the cow, and you made your own cheese and your own cream, [00:46:35] and, and you, they, we moved to the cities.
[00:46:37] Carol Alt: So we had to cook all these things [00:46:40] to kill the enzymes so they would last on the shelf of a supermarket until we bought it.
[00:46:44] Dr. Taz: [00:46:45] Right.
[00:46:45] Carol Alt: So our food changed. So when people say to me, "Eh, but in the Bible [00:46:50] they ate bread," well, yeah. Hello, they didn't go through a dust bowl-
[00:46:53] Dr. Taz: Right ...
[00:46:54] Carol Alt: so that they [00:46:55] made, you know, a super seed that didn't, you know Die [00:47:00] in the, in dust or with, with, you know, insects.
[00:47:03] Carol Alt: Uh, yes, you have to [00:47:05] look at what happened between the Bible and now to our food. And we [00:47:10] pasteurize, and we, we y- hybrid- Right ... and we genetically [00:47:15] modify, and we do all these things to our- That's why we're sick ... our food. And I keep [00:47:20] saying, "The closer you eat to God," that doesn't mean hybrided or [00:47:25] genetically modified.
[00:47:26] Carol Alt: And it's, it's getting harder and harder, I absolutely admit that, [00:47:30] but I have a better edge than most of my compatriots because [00:47:35] I'm aiming for that nutrition every day. I'm not aiming [00:47:40] to go like, "Oh, let's have, you know, with like, you know, cigarettes and [00:47:45] alcohol because I feel like it."
[00:47:46] Dr. Taz: Right. And,
[00:47:47] Carol Alt: you know, "I wanna live my life."
[00:47:48] Carol Alt: I'm, I'm like, [00:47:50] "I wanna live a healthy life."
[00:47:52] Dr. Taz: How do we... You know, I call this show Whole Plus, [00:47:55] 'cause I'm passionate about holistic medicine, but I talk about the merging of science and spirit.
[00:47:59] Carol Alt: Mm-hmm. [00:48:00]
[00:48:00] Dr. Taz: How do we tap into that spirituality in terms [00:48:05] of, you know, using it to choose what we put in our mouth? [00:48:10]
[00:48:10] Carol Alt: I always, uh, it, it's always so crazy to me that when I slow [00:48:15] down the monkey mind enough-
[00:48:17] Dr. Taz: Stops, yeah
[00:48:18] Carol Alt: you, you [00:48:20] usually end up aiming differently. [00:48:25] Does that make sense?
[00:48:25] Dr. Taz: Totally.
[00:48:26] Carol Alt: Like, I know what's right for me, [00:48:30] but sometimes you're tired, or you're hungry, or... And, and you [00:48:35] aim for the wrong stuff because you're listening to your mind, y- your stomach, and you're not [00:48:40] thinking.
[00:48:41] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm.
[00:48:41] Carol Alt: So you have to slow down enough [00:48:45] to think what's right.
[00:48:48] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:48:49] Carol Alt: And that's what you [00:48:50] aim for. I mean, spirituality was something that [00:48:55] came to me The more clean I [00:49:00] got, and I'm not talking religion
[00:49:02] Dr. Taz: I hear so many people say that, though. I've [00:49:05] heard that many times before. Yeah
[00:49:05] Carol Alt: Yeah Because, you know, when, when so much is going on with the body, it's like you get, uh, [00:49:10] too many mixed signals, I think.
[00:49:11] Carol Alt: I mean, you know, this is all my own personal opinion. Mm-hmm. But, hey, I [00:49:15] look damn good for 90, so I figure that these things really work- Yeah ... you know?
[00:49:18] Dr. Taz: Absolutely.
[00:49:19] Carol Alt: Yeah. [00:49:20] I want everybody to look this good at 90.
[00:49:21] Dr. Taz: Well, speaking of looking good, we've talked about water [00:49:25] and oils and vegetable juicing. And
[00:49:27] Carol Alt: digestive enzymes.
[00:49:28] Dr. Taz: And digestive [00:49:30] enzymes, so that's a lot. And nutrition. Everyone can run with that, and then you can look like this, so. [00:49:35] I wish it was that simple, but you know, all joking aside, what are [00:49:40] your favorite beauty treatments, beauty products that you can't live without? You don't have to give us the whole [00:49:45] thing, but you do look amazing.
[00:49:46] Dr. Taz: No, oh,
[00:49:46] Carol Alt: yeah, water and oil.
[00:49:47] Dr. Taz: Water and oil. Is there anything else?
[00:49:49] Carol Alt: No, that's [00:49:50] pretty much it.
[00:49:51] Dr. Taz: Water and oil, guys. It- You heard it from her. Y- y-
[00:49:53] Carol Alt: yeah, I mean, yeah. [00:49:55]
[00:49:55] Dr. Taz: I mean, it is beauty from the inside out, right? At the end of the day, I think that how we take [00:50:00] care of ourselves, you know, how we feel about ourselves, how we live our lives- But you [00:50:05] gotta
[00:50:05] Carol Alt: remember one thing
[00:50:05] Carol Alt: all of that ... anything you put on your skin gets absorbed into the skin. Absolutely. So you g- you wanna read it. [00:50:10] You know, I, I have other products I use. Right. I'm very careful about reading ingredients.
[00:50:14] Dr. Taz: [00:50:15] Ingredients, so watching the toxic load and things
[00:50:17] Carol Alt: like
[00:50:17] Dr. Taz: that. Mm-hmm, oh, yeah. What's next for you?
[00:50:19] Carol Alt: [00:50:20] Well, I mean, I, I don't know.
[00:50:21] Carol Alt: I guess I'm still doing the same old, same old, you know? I'm, I have two movies that [00:50:25] I'm s- I start one at the end of May, and I have another one- Amazing ... tentatively slated for September, [00:50:30] so, uh, yeah.
[00:50:30] Dr. Taz: No slowing down.
[00:50:32] Carol Alt: Um, I hope not. That's why I eat really raw, so I can keep up my [00:50:35] energy.
[00:50:35] Dr. Taz: That's why we eat raw.
[00:50:35] Dr. Taz: I mean, what about books, or any other books coming
[00:50:39] Carol Alt: out? You know, I [00:50:40] wrote five books, uh, on health and nutrition. Two were, uh, you know, [00:50:45] fiction, but- I think I said all I need to say.
[00:50:48] Dr. Taz: Yeah.
[00:50:49] Carol Alt: But at the end of [00:50:50] the day, I, I'm just trying to pay it forward. That's why I accepted your invitation here. I'm just [00:50:55] trying to pay it forward, because I had some really amazing people who helped me in my time of [00:51:00] desperation and need.
[00:51:01] Carol Alt: And, and don't, don't let me, you know, don't let anybody fool you. [00:51:05]
[00:51:05] Dr. Taz: Yeah.
[00:51:05] Carol Alt: Everybody has those dark days.
[00:51:07] Dr. Taz: Yeah.
[00:51:07] Carol Alt: It does- Absolutely ... it's not easy down here [00:51:10] for anybody.
[00:51:11] Dr. Taz: What would you say to young people today? [00:51:15] What's one piece of advice, maybe young girls, maybe people in the modeling [00:51:20] industry. We've had others that have- You're
[00:51:20] Carol Alt: not a sheep.
[00:51:21] Carol Alt: Don't follow the pack.
[00:51:22] Dr. Taz: Ooh, like that. I like that a lot. [00:51:25]
[00:51:25] Carol Alt: Yeah. Don't follow the pack. Everybody runs for quick fixes. There's no quick [00:51:30] fix. You wanna look good in your olden days. You know, I thought it'd be really great to have an [00:51:35] app-
[00:51:35] Dr. Taz: Mm-hmm ...
[00:51:35] Carol Alt: that tells you what you would look like if you were, you know, here you are at 15 if you drink.[00:51:40]
[00:51:40] Dr. Taz: Oh my God- If
[00:51:40] Carol Alt: you smoke ...
[00:51:42] Dr. Taz: we need to do that. I would hand that out.
[00:51:43] Carol Alt: If you eat healthy. [00:51:45] And you could- That would
[00:51:45] Dr. Taz: motivate everybody.
[00:51:46] Carol Alt: Well, because, you know- Yeah ... I always wonder, like I, you see some of these people and you [00:51:50] go like, "Wow, if their 15-year-old self could look at them now."
[00:51:54] Dr. Taz: Right.
[00:51:54] Carol Alt: [00:51:55] You're trying to be so cool in high school, and then you allow this to happen?
[00:51:59] Dr. Taz: I hope everybody [00:52:00] hears that. I think that, I think that is so important. Like- I
[00:52:02] Carol Alt: think that's, that's a lot of hubris on my part I [00:52:05] think. But, um, you know, you just, you, I, I just want [00:52:10] everybody to feel good and everybody to be happy, 'cause it would make for a much happier world [00:52:15] and I'd be much happier walking out my front door.
[00:52:16] Carol Alt: So it's a really selfish- Selfish motivation ... selfish [00:52:20] motivation- At
[00:52:20] Dr. Taz: the end,
[00:52:21] Carol Alt: at the end of it ... at the end of the day. I love it. You know? And they'll treat their animals better, which is [00:52:25] really my motivation.
[00:52:26] Dr. Taz: Oh, I love that. Well, I'm gonna leave you with one final question.
[00:52:29] Carol Alt: [00:52:30] Okay.
[00:52:30] Dr. Taz: What makes you whole?
[00:52:33] Carol Alt: Oh my gosh, so many things make [00:52:35] me whole.
[00:52:36] Carol Alt: Um, I have a great teaching Bible, can't start my day [00:52:40] without reading it. It's just fantastic. It really puts things in perspective. [00:52:45] Um, and, and it sends me a, like a, a thing- A reminder ... to start the day. Yeah. You know, like, [00:52:50] "Here's today's thought." Love that. My animals.
[00:52:52] Dr. Taz: Mm. How many do you have?
[00:52:54] Carol Alt: I have two, two [00:52:55] little rescue cats, one with one eye who, you know, you gotta look at something like that and say, like, [00:53:00] "She just is the sweet-" And it took me a really long time, but she, like, how they [00:53:05] bounce back is just incredible.
[00:53:07] Dr. Taz: Mm.
[00:53:07] Carol Alt: Great food, good friends, but [00:53:10] the top of the list is, is I think, you know, my, I have, I've been blessed with a really great family. [00:53:15] I have two fabulous sisters. My mom, forget it, 93 years old- 93 ... still working in the [00:53:20] li- Oh. She hates when I say that, so I don't know. But she still works in the library. I mean, it's only great to, that [00:53:25] she's working in the library- Oh my gosh
[00:53:27] Carol Alt: 'cause you know she's 93. Yeah. She's still working. And she bought herself a Mercedes on her 90th [00:53:30] birthday.
[00:53:30] Dr. Taz: Oh, I love it.
[00:53:30] Carol Alt: I mean, that's my inspiration.
[00:53:34] Dr. Taz: I love [00:53:35] it. Well, you're an inspiration to so many of us, so thank you for being here today. Well, well, that's- I appreciate it ... a high compliment
[00:53:39] Carol Alt: [00:53:40] coming from you.
[00:53:40] Carol Alt: Thank you.
[00:53:40] Dr. Taz: I so appreciate it, and I hope for everybody watching and listening that you've been [00:53:45] inspired and motivated. We have woven together so many themes.
[00:53:48] Carol Alt: I know, you have to watch this show [00:53:50] again.
[00:53:50] Dr. Taz: You really do. And it's Mom
[00:53:51] Carol Alt: Carol on... No, I'm
[00:53:51] Dr. Taz: just kidding. I love her. I [00:53:55] love her. But- Just kidding ... the science of food, the spirituality of food, how they come [00:54:00] together, so much.
[00:54:01] Dr. Taz: You guys have to watch the episode. It comes
[00:54:02] Carol Alt: together in you.
[00:54:03] Dr. Taz: Yes. And you are unique. It [00:54:05] comes together in you. And you have to know you. Yes. You have to know you. So thank you again.