Kari Lake on Trump vs. DeSantis & Her Role in 2024

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Seth Holehouse: 01:33

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. So we can always tell who the enemies of the deep state are because they're the people that we see being attacked relentlessly. President Trump come to mind? Well, another person who's also received insane amounts of attacks and a stolen election is Carrie Lake.

Seth Holehouse: 01:55

And so she still has been really fighting for freedom, fighting for election integrity. One of the few people at that level that even talk about the fact that we haven't even fixed, you know, 2020. They stole it. They stole the midterms, and we have to do something about this. And so I wanna have a really sober conversation with her and just talk about how can we look to 2024 with the knowledge that we still have the machines in place and the processes and that they're gonna do anything possible, including putting Trump in prison if they can to keep him off the ticket.

Seth Holehouse: 02:27

So what's the way forward? So folks, enjoy this interview with Carrie Lake. Before we get started, make sure you're following me on social media at man in America, and every show is done as a podcast as well. So if you wanna listen instead of watch, go to your favorite podcast app search for Man in America. You can also find me on LFA TV on Rumble as well as my main Rumble TV, channel under Man in America, and a little, you know, kind of fun announcement.

Seth Holehouse: 02:50

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Seth Holehouse: 03:17

So even if you don't win this week, maybe it's next week or the following week. So you enter once, and you're going to be in these weekly drawings giving away five ounces of pure silver because who doesn't want silver? So alright, folks, let's go ahead and dive into this interview with Carrie Lake. Carrie, it is such a pleasure and an honor to have you on the show. Thank you so much for joining us today.

Speaker 2: 03:37

So nice to be here, Seth, and I love the name of your show, Man in America. We got to have some big strong men, and I'm seeing that they're rising up as well right now and realizing that we've got a country to save right now.

Seth Holehouse: 03:50

Yeah, it's funny because I felt like that the men are finally catching up to the women in America. I felt like it was the women that kind of started, you know, much stronger and kind of led the way. And so it's great to see that a lot of the men are finally coming back in and, know, coming together now as a united nation against what we're up against.

Speaker 2: 04:09

I was asked that a lot on the campaign trail. Why is it all the women? And I, I feel for our men. I'm the mother of a boy. I've got a brother.

Speaker 2: 04:17

I love my husband. For so long, culture has been tearing our men down, telling them that they're toxic. They need to stand back. Women are equal to them. We're going to take over.

Speaker 2: 04:28

And because our men are so amazing, they have been, in a way acting polite and saying, Okay, I will step back. And now they're realizing that they can't do that, that God made them to be strong for this moment. And I've always said this and I've, you know, they'll put it in ads and they'll attack me about it. But we are not made equally. We are made to be complementary.

Speaker 2: 04:51

Men and women. Women are not men and men are not women, even though you wouldn't believe it if you walk around the streets and hear what they're saying right now. So I think men are just finally realizing, look, this is not a time for polite discourse. This is a time to stand up and be the men that God made us to be and protect our families and protect our country.

Seth Holehouse: 05:11

Exactly, exactly. And so what the the big question I have is a handful as we talk about is that, you know, I saw what happened in 2020, or sorry, 2020, the presidential election, we saw just the massive fraud that the Supreme Court wouldn't even look at the court systems were all controlled. And we had all the audits, the Maricopa audits, everything. Remember I talked to Wendy Rogers at the peak of the Maricopa audit, and was getting updates. Was like, So Wendy, if we're not changing the machines or a lot of the processes, how can we expect the midterms to be different?

Seth Holehouse: 05:44

And how can we expect 2024 to be different? And she, you know, not that I love Wendy, but she goes, Yeah, you're right. I don't really know. And so we saw what happened in 2022. I was following your election very closely.

Seth Holehouse: 05:55

And they just as just as brazen as 2020, and making sure that you didn't get into office. And so as we look to '20

Speaker 2: 06:03

Even more brazen.

Seth Holehouse: 06:04

Oh, there you go. Yes.

Speaker 2: 06:05

Even more brazen.

Seth Holehouse: 06:06

And so as we go to twenty-

Speaker 2: 06:07

They didn't do it at 3AM. They did it right first thing in the morning. That's true. Robbed this, they grabbed it from us. They pushed us down, stole the election, and they said, and you will just accept it.

Speaker 2: 06:20

And we, the people, said, oh, no. We're not going to accept it. We're going to fight this. And that's what we're doing right now. It's horrible what they've done.

Speaker 2: 06:27

It's enraging. And I took the rage that was inside of me. And I'm suing these people. And we're putting forth the evidence. Look, we've had a case.

Speaker 2: 06:37

We've had a judge without the courage to do the right thing. These judges have the ability to save our country right now. And we haven't had one with courage. But it's not just about showing one judge what we have, what they did. It's about showing the people, waking them up.

Speaker 2: 06:51

In 2020, I saw what happened. I started speaking out when I ran for governor. When I jumped in as a citizen and ran for governor, these establishment rhinos who I was running against, they didn't even want to talk about the twenty twenty election. And they don't want to talk about the border, and they don't want to talk about anything. And I said, well, I'm going to tell you what we're talking about.

Speaker 2: 07:12

We're going to talk about that election because if we don't stand up right now and restore faith and honesty in our elections, we won't have a country in '24. And so we did talk about it. They they they labeled me a an election denier, which I talk about in my book. And I don't care what they say because we have a real opportunity to save our country right now. And we didn't get enough done.

Speaker 2: 07:34

We had a RINO governor, which I have a chapter in my book written about. It's the shortest chapter in the book, chapter 13 called A Short Meeting about Governor Ducey. And he didn't do enough. As a matter of fact, he is complicit by sitting there and certifying corrupt elections. But I still have a lot of hope.

Speaker 2: 07:53

I do. I believe that if we continue to fight and we're seeing little tiny victories here and there, we may not you don't win a war in one fell swoop. You win a war by winning big victories and little battles here and there. And I think that's what's happening right now.

Seth Holehouse: 08:09

So, folks, thank goodness inflation is going down. Thank you, Biden. But wait, if inflation is going down, then why are food prices still going up, energy prices still going up, and gas prices still going up? Because they're lying to us. Imagine that.

Seth Holehouse: 08:27

You see, right now, the real rate of inflation is closer to 25%, not the 5% the White House wants you to believe. You can see this with your own eyes and in your own wallet. What this means is that if you had a hundred thousand dollars in your savings account just one year ago, today it's only worth about $75,000 in terms of your actual buying power. Your money is losing value by the day. If you went back to 1920 though, and you had a $20 bill or a one ounce gold coin, you could walk into a men's clothing store and buy an entire suit, jacket, shoes, pants, belt, everything.

Seth Holehouse: 09:04

But think about it, what would a $20 bill buy you today? Maybe some socks, probably made in China, but an ounce of gold will still buy you that same suit. This is why I believe that now more than ever, it's a good time to consider transferring at least some of your wealth into physical gold and silver, real world assets have stood the test of time. And for this, I'm confident recommending my good friend Doctor. Kirk Elliott.

Seth Holehouse: 09:30

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Seth Holehouse: 10:10

Kirk Kelly's team will answer all of your questions and take care of you every step of the way. Again, that's [phone] or goldwithseth.com. And so I pulled your book up here for folks and which and I'll put the link in the description, but just carrie lake dot com slash unafraid. So I wanna talk to you more about that. But so I wanted to do this and you kind of started to answer it.

Seth Holehouse: 10:35

But as we're looking towards 2024, I mean, I think that the stakes are even higher now for them. Like, they cannot let Trump get back into office. And I have a feeling they're gonna try anything and everything possible. So, you know, for the for the folks that are watching and trying to still hold on to that, that faith and that confidence that we can take our country back, that are worried though, that doesn't matter how much, you know, action we have on the ground, how active we are in local communities as we, you know, lead up to 2024, that they're just going to steal it again. What would your advice be to them?

Speaker 2: 11:11

Well, they don't even want him on the ticket. They don't even because they don't they know we're on to what they're up to. They know we're on to stopping the counting. And you notice they didn't stop the counting last time in '22. They actually sabotaged election day by rolling out broken machines that didn't work intentionally and printing the wrong image on the ballot and right in front of our eyes stealing the election.

Speaker 2: 11:31

They know it's going be really hard to do that again because the people just won't take it. And so they just don't want him on the ballot. And that's why they're doing everything, throwing bogus lawsuits at him that are funded by Democrat operatives and Democrat donors. They're indicting him. Our corrupt government is under the tutelage of Joe Biden is going after him.

Speaker 2: 11:56

And they're even going after me. They don't want me on the ballot. After they they stole our election, I had a very powerful political figure come to my home and say, what would it take to keep you off the ballot? Just for two years, put your movement on hold. Put it on ice.

Speaker 2: 12:10

They don't want me running. They don't want Trump on the same ballot because they know we, the people, will show up and vote for those who are fighting for them. And this is why I continue to fight in the courts. I don't know what the outcome will be. It's grueling to spend my days talking to attorneys, although I love my attorneys because they're courageous at risk of losing their law licenses.

Speaker 2: 12:30

They're fighting. But we have to fight in the courts because that may be where we win. We're going to try to get it all the way to the U. S. Supreme Court in time for '24.

Speaker 2: 12:38

I don't know where it will go. I don't have a crystal ball, but I do know my dad, who was a football coach, said, the only way you are sure to to lose is when you quit. And so I'm willing to fight for the next year and four months. We need to support president Trump. And any candidate, any Republican candidate we already know the Democrats that are running don't typically care about election integrity, but any Republican candidate who will not acknowledge that 2020 was a rigged election and 2022 was a rigged election.

Speaker 2: 13:09

They don't deserve your vote. If they don't want to talk about the elections, if they don't want to if they say, we gotta move forward, we gotta move on, of course, we are gonna move on, and we're gonna have policies to help America. But we can't move on with those policies if we're having selections and not elections. So any of these candidates who are saying Trump is in the past, Carrie Lake is living in the past, no, we're not. When we recognize a problem, we like to solve our problems, not just bury our head in the sand and act like they're going to go away.

Speaker 2: 13:40

And I think there's only one man for the job. It's Donald J. Trump. And these others are just cheap imitations. And many of them are controlled by people we don't want back in our government.

Speaker 2: 13:52

The Karl Roves of the world, the Paul Ryans of the world, the Jeb Bushes, and the whole, Bush warmonger family. We don't want people backed by those guys. We're done with that. We're moving forward. We're putting America First, and we're gonna regain our strength as a country.

Seth Holehouse: 14:08

Yeah. It was an interesting because I'm sure you recall, you know, recently when George Soros came out and was speaking positively about DeSantis. And look, I I love, you know, DeSantis as a governor. He's done amazing things with Florida. He set the example.

Seth Holehouse: 14:21

But when George Soros, of all people, comes forward with positive things to say, it's like that makes all the red little red alarms go off. It's like, okay, there's something wrong here.

Speaker 2: 14:31

Red flag.

Seth Holehouse: 14:32

Exactly.

Speaker 2: 14:33

Red flag, definitely. You know, I supported DeSantis as governor. I thought he was an effective governor. I found it to be an insult to the voters when he just ran and then immediately turned around. He said he wanted to be governor and represent the people and represent the great state of Florida.

Speaker 2: 14:48

And then he turned around, and he started running for for a president against what we already have as an incredible candidate. He stabbed president Trump in the back. It's a major character flaw. If he will stab president Trump in the back who helped him so much, helped him get into office, then he will stab every one of us in the back. And I think we need to be very, very aware of these character flaws like that.

Speaker 2: 15:11

And and frankly, I don't think he's been an effective candidate. I think he he's revealed who he is. He had a he had a running head start to be the nominee in '28 to do the right thing, support President Trump and then be the nominee. I mean, would have cleared the field that he was willing to take such horrible advice from people like Jeb Bush and Paul Ryan and these RINOs. He just destroyed his political career.

Speaker 2: 15:40

The movement will not vote for Ron DeSantis. And that saddens me because he had a bright shining career in politics, but I think it shows a major flaw in his thinking that he could be talked into that. And we don't want someone anywhere near the White House who makes such horrible decisions like that. And so I don't know what his future is, but I will tell you this. The only man who can beat the Democrat in this next election is Donald J.

Speaker 2: 16:08

Trump. These other guys can't. I know MAGA because I've got MAGA in my bone marrow. And there's going to be a lot of MAGA patriots who will never vote for somebody backed by RINOs, who will never vote for somebody who stabbed President Trump in the back. They just won't.

Speaker 2: 16:23

You can tell them to, but they won't. And so therefore, we'll get stuck with an impostor, a cheap knockoff, and they won't be able to beat Biden.

Seth Holehouse: 16:33

Now let me ask you a hypothetical question here. If we finish our interview and your phone rings and you look down, it's President Trump, and he says, you know, Carrie, you're fantastic. I want you right there next to me. Want you as my vice president. What would you do in that situation?

Speaker 2: 16:49

Well, if that came in today, I would say, why are you worried about VP? We need to give you the nominee. Let's work on that. I know president Trump, and I think he's gonna make that decision when the time comes, which will probably be about a year from now. And I don't know what the options I've had.

Speaker 2: 17:05

A lot of people ask that. I particularly love it when the fake news media ask that because then I say to them, well, at least you're acknowledging that President Trump is gonna be the nominee, which we all know is gonna be the case. I'm gonna do whatever I can to help him, and I absolutely want nothing in return. I mean that with with everything I've got. I want him in the White House because I love my family.

Speaker 2: 17:25

I love my children. I want us to have a country, and I think he's the guy who can get in there and on day one start to turn this nightmare around and get us on solid footing on a world stage as well and and bring truth and peace to the world, which is what I think everyone craves at their heart. So I'm going to do what I can to help him in any way. I'm not asking for anything. There's a Senate seat that's coming up in Arizona, and we have an opportunity as Republicans, as America First Republicans, to capture that seat.

Speaker 2: 17:51

And if I can do that, I'm I'm considering that. But first and foremost, I want to let the people of Arizona and America know that I am not going to give up on our case. Whatever I decide to do, if I were to decide to run, I will continue to work through the courts to restore honesty in our elections. I am not in this to be a politician, but when that man came to my door and offered me whatever amount of money, what it would take to get me out of politics, that may it it really sent a chill down my spine. These people want the true fighters out of politics, and they wanna put in people they can control, puppets they can control, people that can be blackmailed and bribed.

Speaker 2: 18:32

And we've gotta get away from that kind of politics. That's not what our founders envisioned. They envisioned you and me and moms and dads and farmers and ranchers and business owners and regular people stepping forward and representing our fellow citizens. And I really I see a day when we're getting back to that. I do want to leave your listeners with with a little something that might give them hope.

Speaker 2: 18:56

As difficult as these times are, I do believe that God put us here for a reason. He did. I'm is when I wake up and I feel sorry for myself. I go, no, I'm here at the most consequential consequential, amazing time in in human history, at least one of them. And I'm really honored that God would place us here at this time.

Speaker 2: 19:16

And that same God that parted the Red Sea is still with us today, and we need to go out there and use the the abilities and the gifts he gave us to fight for this country because we know he had a hand in it. We've got three choices right now. We can either have a fast sprint toward communism and globalism with a Democrat and Joe Biden. We can have a little bit slower sprint with these wannabes who are acting like they care about America and they're running against President Trump. And frankly, they're run by the establishment uni party.

Speaker 2: 19:47

And that's heading right to over the cliff of of communism and globalism as well. Or we can have Americanism and put our country first and make America great again with president Trump. And I know what I'm doing. I'm voting president Trump all the way.

Seth Holehouse: 20:01

And I just wanna just can you comment on your just your thought on living in this time? And that's why I've also come to that I feel as difficult and as crazy as this time is, we have the World Economic Forum and the CCP and the globalist and corruption and child trafficking and the border, everything like that. It seems like, gosh, I wish I could go back to the time of like Little House on the Prairie. But I realized that I, that God chose me to be here to fight in this battle and that the future of humanity, I think is hinging upon what we're doing right now over the next few years. So, Carrie, before we sign off, I want you to tell us a little bit more about your book because it's unafraid, which I think is a really important word for us right now, as we enter into this.

Seth Holehouse: 20:43

But so what what's behind this? What was behind you writing your book?

Speaker 2: 20:47

Well, let me ask you real quick. I what what city are you in right now? What town?

Seth Holehouse: 20:51

I'm I'm near Columbus, Ohio. You're

Speaker 2: 20:54

okay. Columbus, Ohio. And and, you know, sometimes you wake up and go, oh, This fight's so difficult. I'm sitting here in New York City right now, and I met with some great Republicans last night. You know, they could easily abandon this city and say, I gotta get out.

Speaker 2: 21:07

And they are like, we're not leaving. We're gonna save New York. So I was inspired by New York Republicans last night. Imagine how what an uphill battle it must feel like. And they said, no.

Speaker 2: 21:16

We're not gonna abandon the city. We're gonna double down and try to save it. My book is, it's inspirational. It will get you fired up. It will make you it'll it'll explain my life from coming from rural Iowa, the youngest of nine kids, having to work for everything I ever had, working my way through college, paying my way through college and landing a dream job only to walk away from it and somehow end up in this world in the middle of this really important political time.

Speaker 2: 21:44

And it just goes to show you that we all have an ability to get involved and do something big. If we if we let God steer us, he's going to steer us in ways that are so much bigger, more fantastical than anything we could ever imagine. If you would have told me before I quit my job and walked away that I was going to end up here, I just would have never believed it. I thought I was going to kind of fall into the background into a quiet life, and I would have been totally fine. Like you said, little house on the prayer.

Speaker 2: 22:10

I would have been totally fine with that. But I told God to just tell me what he wants me to do and steer me in that direction. And so I'm I'm just going to abide by what he wants me to do and work hard to make sure that we we do well. We do right by God. This book is great.

Speaker 2: 22:27

It has some really juicy stories about politics, national politics, some of the conversations I've had with people that we all know. And you won't believe some of the stuff that happens on a campaign trail. I will tell you from the first chapter, President Trump's forward is great. The first chapter, the first sentence, you will be hooked. And I'm betting you might read it in one sitting and people I gave this to in advance, all of them said I couldn't put it down.

Speaker 2: 22:53

Read it in one day.

Seth Holehouse: 22:55

Well, Carrie, thank you again for coming on the show. Thank you for fighting, you just know that you've got a lot of people supporting you and that again, this is this is a special time in history. And what we're doing right now is we're literally fighting for the future for our children. We're literally fighting to make sure that, you know, my two and a half year old daughter doesn't end up in a labor camp or, you know, grow up under a totalitarian technocracy like we have in modern day They're

Speaker 2: 23:24

after President Trump right now. They're going after others who are like him. And today it's him. Today it's me. Tomorrow it's you.

Speaker 2: 23:32

And no one will escape this unscathed. And I even say at the very end of this book, I in my acknowledgments, I think a lot of people, of course, I think my family and those who have been instrumental in making me the person I am. But at the very final sentence, I say, finally, to those who don't support our mission, we are fighting for your future, too. I know you will eventually come around and join us in making America great again. And I believe that people are waking up every day.

Speaker 2: 24:01

Sometimes it takes the road to be a little rougher for people to wake up. But let's be patient. Let's keep working, and let's definitely not lose hope that we can save our country.

Seth Holehouse: 24:11

Important points. So again, thank you, Carrie, so much for being here.

Speaker 2: 24:15

Thank you. Have a great day.

Seth Holehouse: 24:16

Thank you. Alright, folks. I've got a quick message for you. I have one simple question. If today you could no longer go purchase more food for your family, with the food stores that you have in your home, how long would you be able to feed your family?

Seth Holehouse: 24:33

Would it be a week, three weeks, a month, two months, a year? This is a really important question folks that we have to be very realistic about because the elites are proactively trying to put us into a state of food crisis and a state of famine. I'm sure you've seen all of the different food processing plants and farms that are blowing up. You've got cattle dying by the tens of thousands. They're proactively trying to collapse our food system because they know if they can control our food, they can control us.

Seth Holehouse: 25:02

And so one of the best ways to be outside of their control is to be able to have our own stores of food and to be able to produce our own food. So there's really two things I would recommend. One is having heirloom seeds that you can grow your own food with, making sure that they're non GMO heirloom seeds. That way you can harvest your seeds this year, use them next year. You can use these seeds for generations.

Seth Holehouse: 25:25

Literally, it's how it will work. The other thing though is this high quality storable food. This is food that's sitting somewhere, it's hidden in your basement, buried in your backyard, whatever it ever it is. So that way, if there is a crisis, if there is an emergency, you might have three months set aside to get through that time period. And so for this, I would highly recommend a company called Heaven's Harvest.

Seth Holehouse: 25:46

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Seth Holehouse: 26:13

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Seth Holehouse: 26:47

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