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Welcome to the Energetic Radio podcast. This episode is brought to you by the
SchoolOfPlay, co hosted by Dale Sybottom and Paul
Campbell. Each week we'll bring to you tips, strategies and ideas on
how you can bring more joy and happiness into your life and those you share
it with. G', day, everyone. Welcome back to energetic radio,
episode 376. I hope you're well. Christmas is in
the air. It is December, and I'm joined by the one and only Dale Sybottom.
G', day, mate. How are you, Pistol? Good to see you, mate. Pistol,
you're funny. Bastard. I love it. How's things? Very good, mate. Very good, very
good. Now the sunny's out. Very excited. The cricket
starts today, mate. I love the Ashes like no tomorrow. The golf started
in Melbourne as well. This drone Open, amazing. It's cool to have
things look forward to, isn't it? I think that's one thing. I'll be honest, I
love, like, winter in a way, because I know Friday and Saturday night I can
have a couple of beers, put the fire on and watch the footy. Yes. Whereas
without that. And I'll be honest, the big bash just doesn't do it
for me. Like, I just find it boring. Whereas test cricket,
even though I'm only going two days now, I just love it. I love everything
about it. And I'll sit there and if I can and watch every ball and
how. Good are day night tests? Perfect, because it gives us something to watch. And
once the kids are down for a couple of days. Yeah, I might go for
three. You reckon this one? Yeah, they'll go for three. Look, pretty green. The deck
didn't. Anyway, sure, they'll get three out. They would have worked in their batting technique.
I can't get tests. Don't normally go for two. It might go for three, but
I'm with you. It's funny how. How simple the mail is. I was the same.
I woke up this morning and jumped out of bed. One of the first things
in my mind was, oh, yes, the cricket starts tonight. Yeah. I wrote in our
first email, bang. Ash's day, baby. I know. How exciting is it?
Males are so such simple creatures to please. It's awesome.
Something about test career, though. There is, isn't it? Especially against the problems with the
Ashes. It's obviously I'm torn, because I'm not torn. I go for Australia, but I've
still got to hold an English passport, so it's me too. Nearly didn't get back
in the country. I know I've really got. I've been saying,
but geez, I've been saying I'm going to become an Aussie for a very long
time and haven't done it yet. So, yeah, we'll see how it goes.
Alrighty, on. On Christmas, I want to throw in a quick little thing here and
get on this next year. If you didn't get on this year, I said to
you about a week ago, Advent calendars. So obviously Advent calendars are
massive. My kids have got a Truckee one and whatnot. But this year for
the first time, Alf gave it to them. But really obviously we got it.
But there's a kindness advent calendar
that's that just a mum. An Australian mum made up. She sold over a
million copies worldwide. And it is elite like it is. It's
now become like this morning it was the first thing my kids opened as
opposed to the chocolate. They couldn't wait to see the kindness challenge. They couldn't wait
to see. It's multifaceted. There's kindness challenge they're gonna do, but there's also a little
scratch and reveal like a little positive affirmation they read to themselves
and there's little kindness stickers they collect in a little envelope they get. So it's
like a three pronged attack. And it is incredible
for setting your kids up that mindset of do something
kind today. Here's your kindness challenge for the day. Yeah. And they can't wait. And
then at dinner table we have a chat about how'd you go with your kindness
challenge? And they reflect on it. And any parents out there that missed the boat
on this year, we might release one. We might
release one if we get time next year and do a school play. A play
slash kindness/gratitude 1. But that'll be a heap of work.
I know, Dale. So don't freak out. I'm just looking going, I know, Dale. Look
at our two list. Go mate. When do we fit that in? But it is,
it is unreal. And if you did miss the boat this year and apparent put
in the memory bank for next year. Australian company. And it's
literally a game changer for advent calendars. And just setting your kids with
that mindset of let's do something good today for somebody else. Yeah.
Epic. I think though, like, it's all great for an advent calendar, but these are
things we need to be doing all year round. Yeah. And I think that's where
like this isn't a plug for our products, but our daily mission cards are essentially
that that as a family Reveal one, you do it for the week or you
do it for the day and you reflect on it, you know, and that's the
whole point behind it. Obviously that's a very smart model that they've
created because they've not only got the kindness challenge, they've got that scarcity or
the, the mystery behind the scratch and reveal. And then they've got the
gamification element in getting the sticker as well. So
she's really gamified it like a game. And that's why
it's so exciting for them because they've got so many different layers going on.
Yeah. Our kids have already written notes for the neighbors and left them on the
front doorstep. Little kind notes. We got some beautiful ones back. They had
to make phone calls to someone that makes their heart sing. You know what I
mean? They just picked up a random phone call and gave a phone call to
someone who made their heart sing. And. Yeah, I don't know, I just think it's.
It's a really cool little add on for the Christmas Advent calendar. If you're
thinking about something else next year, get on it and I'll try and talk side
into. Find the time to creating our own one.
I'm just looking at that. It's a great idea and I'm thinking, how much work
am I going to have to do on that? You have these ideas. Oh, now
I can just figure it out. Stop being so creative. Just stop being such a.
I'm more than happy to create one. If you want to go and do it.
You're just planting seeds all over. I'll work on it. I'll work on it. I'll
find my. I'll get better with it. How's that sound? That's your problem.
You're too good. You're too good at it, mate. That's not a compliment. Good luck
with your Advent calendar. I love it. I'm going to tune in first with something
that came upon us yesterday. So yesterday we did a workshop with 60
wellbeing leaders and they wanted us to steer it in
the direction of working with neurodiverse students.
We've. I'm sure there's a lot of parents out there now that the. There's a
lot more young people coming through who are neurodivergent and
their brain works in slightly different ways. Think adhd, autism,
you know, those sorts of things. Well, you sit across. You're sitting across from one,
I'm sitting. Across from them, right? Yep. And so we did a whole workshop
around that and linked how play is incredible and it was awesome for me to
go out and learn that stuff. But the story I want to tell. You and
I was for listeners out there, I was very impressed because there's something. We
haven't really done anything and we're waiting to go to talk and
Campbell's over there with this like cheat sheet note. I'm like, what do you got
there, mate? It's like if you cop like you're going to check to do a
test or something. Yeah, these are my notes. I was like, for what we already
know you're gonna talk. Oh, and you had all these notes and you went up
and it was amazing. Thank you. I learned a lot from just, you know, being
there. I did surprise myself how much memory, how much information I retained in
my cramming of of neuro diverse and how plane packs on it. But
the main thing that I want to get out of it. And so I did
an experiment with my 5 year old son Parker last night. So long story
short, he's been a bit moody lately, a bit emotional, a bit grumpy. And
the missus did something yesterday that really upset him. Not her fault, we're all humans.
And he couldn't regulate himself. Like he was just really shitty,
like really grumpy. Didn't want to come to the dinner table, refused to talk to
us. And I didn't, I just let it go. And I just thought,
hang on a minute. I just taught this today about how play is
incredible at activating the parasympathetic nervous system, which calms
people and regulates them and makes them feel safe and focused and relaxed.
And so the three was at the table. Parker's cracking the shits over in the
corner. And I was like, I'm going to try it. So I didn't
label anything. Just got up, got four pieces of paper, four pens, sat down
and I just said, right, we're going to play a game. And Hunter was like,
yeah, Morris, like awesome, let's do it. I said, well, let's play a game. I
said, we're going to do a drawing game. So I didn't label it Gratitude Pictionary.
So we're going to do a drawing game. And his ears pricked up. He was
like, oh. And I said, do you want to join in, mate? Yeah, okay. And
he quickly got out of his slumber and he came and sat the table. Still
a little bit of a huff and a puff. And I was like, right, what's
something that's, you know, what's something that's really challenged you lately, or what's something. I
said, no, I said, your funniest moment. I said, think about your funniest moment that
you've seen lately. Don't share it. Just think about your funniest moment.
Right, We've got to draw it. And he just started drawing, little smile on his
face. And I turned to my wife and gave her a little wink and he
joined in and started playing. And it was amazing how through that play, it
snapped him out. Yeah, it reset and it snapped him out of that little grumpiness.
We then shared our drawings that. To guess each other's drawings. We call it Gratitude
Pictionary. And we had to guess everyone's funniest moments through our drawings, which was
hilarious. And it bloody reset him. And I was like, how's that little social
experiment with my own kids and what I just taught. But, yeah, well, it does
work. And I. You've introduced me to the game Spot it. And we use it
a lot now. That's exactly what I use with my
boys when they're so dysregulated. I just go and go, Spot
it and don't even give them a chance to think. And before. I know, we've
played two games. Oh, what do you want to do now? And it's just completely.
Yeah. They forget about this. Forget about it. Instead of. What I've been doing for
so long is, oh, you got to stop. No, that's not right. It's all negative.
Just completely change narrative. Yeah. You know, and Spot it is
brilliant for that. Yeah. And so is gratitude. It's any form of playwright. Any form.
Because I was going down, like, I'm knackered, I'm tired. I was going down the
pathway of, you know, I didn't. I was like, parker, get to the dinner table.
Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, come on, mates, family dinner, you know, move
on those. So I would have said normally, but, no, I didn't. I didn't label
anything. And I just spoke to the other people in the room and said, hey,
let's all play a game. And very quickly went, oh, I want to be a
part of this. And yeah, isn't that funny? For years, people would always
say that one of the questions you get, what do you get when, like, what
happens with the people that don't want to participate? And I would always say that's
normally 1 or 2%. Don't give them any energy whatsoever. Let
them focus on the 97, 98% that do want it.
And what normally Happens is they gravitate back in because they see others having fun.
Yeah, it's very. Just you saying that then reminded me that that's
what we practice what we preach. But then you focus on the negatives instead. All
right, what's the positive? You know, control what you control. People will often
they just want attention. Normally they want to get angry. I like how we
spot it. You don't say, hey, who wants to play? Or let's play. Don't. Don't
label it. No, I just pull my spot it. I don't even give them a
chance. And next thing you know, they're trying. To find the all right, next one.
And they're into it, right? Yes, yes. So it's one of those things. Yeah.
And we talk about these. Don't label. Never label anything. And we don't do that
in our workshops. And I think that's a great thing, not only for parents, but
also anyone out there. The moment you label something, we're going to
start a meeting with this. Like, you'll just lose a room.
Spot it. Or draw this bang straight away. And we call it
microplay. So just make it a ritual. Make it a
ritual in your repertoire of parenting or coaching or teaching, whatever it is of micro
play. When you're losing someone, a class, your team, when they're waning
with motivation, they're getting tired, or they're not switched on, or your
kids are off the head, or they're not regulated, whatever it might be. Just think
micro play and it's just gonna be 5 minutes, 5 minute micro play of
something a little bit different. And don't label it. Don't give them a chance to
think about it and see what it does to your team or the people you're
working with. But yeah, put it in your little. In your back pocket. It does
work. Yeah, it does. And John, What? Actually, it makes you feel so much
better yourself because you're not just being negative or it's not all
like. It's not all like a bad spiral
of your energy putting down someone or just getting
negative. You know, it's. You're flipping the situation. You're making it a positive.
It's a good result for everyone. You laugh, you have fun, you move on. Well,
you control your emotions. Right. And parenting is. And teaching everything. It's an
emotional roller coaster because you've got to deal with different personalities
and. And different attitudes, those sorts of things and frustrations and whatnot. And
yeah, I think if you can think that way and control your emotions and Be
a bit more assertive and smart about how you go, you are proud of yourself.
And I was, I said in my life, I'm like, man, I'm proud of myself.
I said to myself, I'm proud of myself for not losing it. Then she goes,
you did really well, you know, good job. So, yeah, so I
reckon it's not. I don't call it a regulation kit, but different
activities, you know, I've just got a dice and I spotted cards and anytime I
say who can roll a six first? Or something like that, they're very basic. But
I think that's something that anybody. Because everyone
gets dysregulated, some people just find it a lot harder to come back when
they do. So if you can have things, you know, that work, that are fun
and it is play based essentially 100%. And the little comment that
I loved yesterday in a workshop is a regulated brain
is a ready brain, you know what I mean? So a regulated brain is then
ready to listen, it's ready to learn, it's ready to try new things, it's ready
to communicate, it's ready to engage. But there's no point trying to do it when
the brain's not working, no way. And I saw them Parker last night, he
was grumpy and his emotions were flying. He was really upset with his
mum and nothing I could have said would have got
him out of it, nothing, honestly. So I had to think of something else and
play was the way that got his brain to regulate changing the narrative. And then
he was ready to listen and learn and come back to the family. So, man,
super simple. But I just wanted to share that because it actually worked in our
family home last night. That's really good, man. It was awesome. It was cool to
see the. Well, we, we see it all the time, what we do with our
games. But then the way the language used was different than normal.
And you can see the people in the room because I'll like assistant principles of
well being or well being specialists or psychologists, you could see and go,
ah, that's cool. That's one of the things I've always loved. And
it was nice sitting back yesterday, seeing you doing it. Just people go,
ah, they've felt it, but then it makes sense,
it works. You know these light bulbs going off. Yeah, yeah. It's pretty cool
when you give people an experience they didn't realize they needed and then teach them
something that they really do need that they didn't know before they came in. Yeah.
And a skill they can put in their back pocket and take home with them.
For anyone? Yeah, for anyone. It's awesome. Question that notice, mate.
And you would have heard me ask this last night in our meeting we had
with someone. Question that notice. What's something you want to learn?
Well, I think I'm doing it. I want to learn more about how my
brain thinks. Like, we're just talking about before, like with
neurodiversity and things like that. And obviously, yeah, I want to
understand myself a little bit better. So, yeah, I want to learn how my
brain operates. I got a fair idea, but probably also
learn ways that I can regulate myself better and
yeah, learn. Learn to be a better person in all aspects of my life. Okay.
Yeah, yeah, so that's me. Yeah. On the same. I'm a
bit of an. I've always brought it newer time. I want to learn the guitar
and I still haven't doing it, but I just want to go back to it.
But outside of that, I want to learn. For some reason, I want to learn
about working memory. I don't know why some popped up the other in my mind,
I was like, I really want to try and understand. Memory
better and how it actually works so I can. I don't know, so I can
get better at it. Because I reckon my memory is not awesome compared to yours.
You remember people's names go to my mind like, no tomorrow. And it frustrates in
the line of work ring because we meet so many new people. I'm like, shit,
I've forgotten his name already. And it's. And I want to be personable. Like, I
want to be able to bring them up and use them in workshops a lot
more. Yeah, I don't know. So that's. That's a bit of a nerdy thing that
I want to learn. I want to learn about working memory with that. It's something
very easy you can do. So Tanzlaali had him on the podcast
about five or six years ago, and he's done a couple of courses for us.
And he's an Australian memory expert champion. Yeah. So he
taught himself just how to do it. He memorized the
whole yellow pages in a month. And then he could recall
someone said what page? He could recall the business name and the telephone number.
Jeepers. And so he's done a couple of courses and if you go back and
just look at. Listen to podcasts, done did a little like, thing you could do
on the podcast, a way to do it, a really simple starting one. And then,
yeah, there's a course he did Tanzel Ali. Tanzel Ali.
A lot of people now go to him. Like, he's. He's a memory coach. Yeah.
So he teaches people how to become better at using their memory or,
like remembering a speech or something. Like. So that's how I got my TED Talk.
He was. I did a podcast with him and he goes, dad, wow, you're brilliant.
Have you ever thought of doing TED Talk? I said, I have, Tanzel. And he
was the one that was running it. Interesting. So he would run it and then
a lot of people would get him to coach them so they could,
like, memorize their 15 minute TED talk. Yeah. Love it. It's going to become. I
always create some goals at the start of the year. Not resolutions, but some goals.
And that's going to be one of my goals, is to try and work to
improve my memory. Well, there you go, my working memory. And, yeah, I'm looking forward
to getting stuck in, just doing little daily activities, what I can do for it.
But I asked my wife earlier, you know, what's something you want to learn before
we. Before I left home, and she sort of armed and added a little bit
and struggled a little bit with it. Then she came up with something, you know,
another language. She goes, I'd love to learn another language. Hasn't started doing, but
hopefully it becomes one of her goals, but also about work. But she struggled a
little bit to find something that she wants to learn about. And I was like,
I reckon everybody should have something that
they want to learn almost all the time to keep that thing ticking over or
keep growing. That purpose or, you know, a project.
Yeah, yeah. So as we end
2025, legends out there, just plant a little seed.
What. What are you gonna. What's something you want to learn in 2026 and add
to your repertoire something you've been putting off for a long time. Write it down
as a goal and do it with me and literally get stuck into that goal.
I can't wait for you to roll into a workshop playing the guitar and
remember people's names. That means.
That means I might sing them.
Hey, Lou, with that on my quiz time.
Quiz time. I like it. Throw it in. So five questions. Fair. It's a quick
bite quiz today. Okay? So you've got five
seconds to answer. So give me five seconds so people can yell it out if
they're listening and then you answer it. Okay? Question number one. How many
teeth does an adult human have? 5,
4, 3, 2, 1.
32. Well done. One from one. Jason Tri
90s great play for St. Kilda back in the day as well. There you go.
Told you a freaky nice. Question number
two. What is the nearest planet to the Sun?
5, 4, 3, 2,
1. Uranus. No, that's on my bottom. Mercury.
Oh, Mercury. All right, so one, kill me for that. Pardon? Hunter will kill
me. Forget. That's okay. Question number three. What is the logo of the American
football team? The Dallas Cowboys. Five,
four, three, two, one. It's a star. It
is. What color? Blue. Well done. Blue and gray. Blue and white is
always a blue and white. It just says a blue star, but it might be
great. Two from three, you are. Yeah. Correct. I tried to go a bit easier
on you. Thank you. I've been useless. That's why you said, where's the quiz been?
I said, oh, I was a bit dismal. No, yeah, bring it back. I want
to improve. All right. No. Question number four. What is a baby rabbit
called? Five, four, three, two,
one. A bunny? Oh, no. A kit or a kitten? Oh,
I. I learned something. I did very good. All right, the last one. Which
American city' baseball team are named after the
Cardinals? 5, 4, 3, 2,
1. Arizona. No, I know. I wouldn't have got this either. St. Louis.
Oh, so two from five. That's
better off, so. Well, no, if I had 10, I might have got
more than four. No. Anyway. Hence
why I need to work in my working memory, young man. That's why. Maybe you
need to go on a game show. Yeah, maybe just suck at it. That's awesome.
I love it. Did a little. Little
activity the other day called Life Zooming. All right. And
a little activity called Live Stream, where you focus in, you go back.
And it's for adults, like Ara. Like mid. You know, mid, middle age, 40s,
50s, whatever it is. And I know some people get stuck in the rut of,
oh, I'm 40, I'm 50, you know, I'm. I'm done. I'm not going to
learn anything new. What am I going to do? I'm not going to start new
businesses and those sorts of things. They're stuck in a rut, mate. Colonel Sanders
started KFC at 65. That's crazy, isn't it? That's best. That is nuts drinking. It
took him that long to get his 11 herbs and spices sorted. I think he
might have been stuck on 10 for a few years. He was an elite backyard,
backyard, cool things cooker. Backyard, backyard, fry
house. Sorry, mate. That's right, mate. It's called Life Zooming.
And you do a little activity Yourself and you ride out. Like for example, when
I was 18 to 21, what, what was my focus
and what did I learn? All right, and then you go, so for me,
for example, shitloads, like left home,
went to uni, out of my comfort zone, moved in my first rental
place, learning about rent and bills and sharing food and cooking and,
and then uni and navigating uni and it was incredible, right? And then
you go again from like 22 to 25, you know, what did I learn then?
Getting a job, career, professionalism, blah blah, blah, still having a good
time. And you do that every three years and you go back and write it
all out and it is actually insane in a three year period
what you do, but what your focus is, what you learn. And even
if I go the last three years between 40 and 44, for example,
it is insane what I've learned and you'd be the same. And then it
just puts that little bit of a seed in your mind to go, man, I
got so much ahead of me. What is 44 to 47 going to entail? You
know what I mean? But I thought it was a really cool activity to do
and a really cool activity to share, especially if you're middle aged.
Yeah, it's awesome. But. So I'm going to encourage you to do it. Saudi, I'm
going to encourage you to. I can't wait to hear your 44 to 47
and hear how this advent calendar designs come along.
Mate. It would be very similar to what you just mentioned there. But yeah,
it's probably a nice way to reflect as well. Yeah, I mean, like as we
were talking about before, the years go very quick now, you know, they fly by
and I think that sometimes that's why I like social media
or like Instagram or so forth, because it's sort of like a highlight
reel of the things you've done. Yeah, that's. That's probably the main thing I like
about. You can go back and it reminds you of things. I've been sitting on
that topic for a while. I'll be honest, it's been in my podcast book for
a while. I haven't brought it up. And the reason why I brought it up
is because yesterday I had another. After the workshop, another lady
approached me, she's a teacher and she said, listen, you know, really
inspirational, you used to be a teacher and you've, you know, you've now run your
own business. And she said, I'd love to do that. You know, for a long
time I fought with the notion of what else could I do, but I've never
left. And then a week ago we're at over at
Hillcrest and David Levchenko grabbed me and also a teacher and he was like,
I've just, I'm doing it, I'm retiring, I'm leaving teaching, I'm going to start
my own business. I haven't got it going yet, but I'm going to do it.
You know, bloke from Clyde Creek, all those. So there's been a lot this year
that have told us, hey, I want to try and do something different, but I
don't know what. And there'll be. And I've told you this, you get them all
the time. People always want to do it, which is great. And there was that
one yesterday, grabbed me and went, but the. She was about my age, but
she was nervous and she was freaking out. At this age, can I do it
at this age? I was like, dude, you've got, it's only going to take you
a couple of years, three or four years of effort and you're going to look
back. But if you do that live zooming activity and realize what you've achieved and
what you've learned in a three year period for your whole life, you very
quickly see that I've got so much to go still and I've still got, you
know, 20, 30 years of working and imagine what I can do in three year
blocks. Yeah. And that then led me to another question. Right.
Because then obviously a few people in asking us, how do you do it? Can
you give us some time? Should I do it in your eyes because you've
done it. Should. I don't know how to word this.
Should everybody? Should people who want to
leave their jobs and start a business. No. Okay, elaborate. Why? Why not? Who
should? Who shouldn't? Never, never just leave. Right? You need to be working
after hours for years to have it to a place where
you know it's sustainable. Not don't just quit your job because then
it's forces so much pressure. You're going to be like,
you're going to get desperate. People can see desperation. If it's a passion
project or something you want to do, then it should be something that you enjoy
doing and it doesn't feel like work and it actually motivates you. So
every night dedicate two hours to building it, to
growing it, to reaching out, to creating things, test those products
out. Don't just do something, don't just quit and then try that.
Yeah, you need to have A working, viable product before you do
anything. Because, like, a lot of things, and I remember when I was starting out,
the things that I thought would be really good, no one wanted. The things I
didn't think were that, well, people loved. But you only know that by doing it
and testing it out, you can plan as much as you want or think about
all these different things. Taking action is the only way you'll know what works or
what doesn't. Yeah. But doing it in a way where it's a free swing, that
it doesn't matter and you're not relying on that income or the pressure of bringing
in work. Yeah. Yes. Like, yeah, there's
time. Everyone's time poor. But that's on you. I bet if you looked at your
screen time, you could take one hour of that back. I bet if you commute
or something like that, you could be doing things on your commute to put into
that business or start planning it out.
My thing is people want something, but they're not willing to put the work in
to get it. Yeah, gotcha. And sometimes thinking that I'll just quit
my job and they'll have all this time, that that's definitely not the way to
go about it. You need to start a side hustle. And through your job you
fund that and the project and the passion that you have
will then come forward. And if it's any good and people want it,
then you've got a viable business. Don't just quit, though. Yeah, definitely
not. I love the part they said you said there about you can find an
hour of your screen time to put towards something productive, you know, and that's. And
that's 100. True. I watched. I'm
gonna link that in with. And that's great advice, by the way, because so many
people ask us, right? And they thought, oh, man, I've got to bring this up.
And you've sat there and done it. On the.
I've watched an awesome study about mindfulness in Australia with the
Australian Melbourne unit and the Melbourne and Sydney universities and just
30 normal Aussie people. So that's what caught my attention. Like, these are just normal
Aussies that had very much.
They had no mindfulness experience whatsoever. No meditation experience whatsoever.
Skeptics, some of them are actually quite skeptical. This is not going to do anything
for me. But they did eight weeks of intensive meditation. Mindfulness, same
thing where they had to be mindfulness or practice mindfulness or meditate
one once a day, just for literally once a day. And then they
did one class a Week together as a group of 30, they did all pre
and post testing with everything strapped to their brains and their hearts. And
the results blew me away. Yeah, I remember I told you about it. I was
like, man, how's this study they've done? And the results of it, you know, working
memory, improved cognitive development, cognitive functioning, better
sleep, better control of your emotions, better ability to express your emotions
to others. You know, more energy, more clarity.
All these. That. All these normal Aussies that were skeptical and just
found the benefits of it. And it wasn't just them feeling it, it was
the. Backed by science. Backed by science. And the data there and all the graphs
and. And it just. And I've tried to start doing.
Not daily, I'm trying to do a little bit in bed and get back to
a little bit of meditation. But do you know how you said before you've got
to find an hour of your time to be productive?
The way that phones are, we've lost the ability to just let our mind wander?
Well, we never get creative. We never get creative. We never get bored. We talk
about this all the time. You sit at a bus stop, right. You watch people
sit in a bus stop or on a train and they're through their phones. You're
on a toilet having a crap. You take your phone and you scroll through. It's
probably a guy thing, I guess, but. Yeah. Whereas back in the
day, we were kind of forced to have a lot more time. Yeah.
Just with our thoughts, which is a form of mindfulness. I don't know. You know,
that's. Man, I'll be honest, that's why I love where we work here. Because each
night now we've got a lot to do. It's why when you bring up an
advent calendar, I get a bit nervous. But there's no phone
reception in here. Yeah. So I shut the door. I don't want to go and
watch two hours of a TV show. I'd rather come in and work. Yeah. Because
I feel proud of that and I know that it's all going to pay off
in the long run. And at the end of the day, if anyone's out there
and you want something bad enough. I'm sorry to say this, but working
nine to five, you're not going to get it. You need to push harder.
There'll be things you need to do because by the time you get that done,
something else has already changed and you need to be progressive onto the next thing.
And not saying you have to do that all the time, but you just need
to be intentional with it. And I know that I can scroll my phone, but
I don't feel good after doing it and I don't get anything out of it.
So I just eliminate that now. I don't want to sit there on it. And
I was the same, you know, with your, you know, bringing that to mindfulness. Instead
of, you know, grabbing your phone or scrolling for 20 minutes,
just go and lie down quietly or sit up against a wall or sit somewhere
quietly and just focus on yourself, focus on your thoughts, focus
on your breathing, focus on your body and just see how it goes
after a few weeks. And obviously the benefits are there.
It's clear. The science has proven it all. But, yeah, I just want to link
that in with when you said, find an hour of your screen time to do
something different. And it might be a side hustle, it might be a bit of
meditation, it might be a quick little circuit, it might be reading a book, it
might be a micro play, whatever it is. But I guess the challenge we're now
setting you, especially for the Christmas holiday period and those sorts of things,
try to knock off half an hour of your average screen time
a day and channel it somewhere really productive and see what
happens. I would say channel that
into something that makes you feel good. And I think that's essentially what you're saying.
Yeah, I feel bloody good when I'm creating and I'm working
and building these things because I love it. So for me, that's. That's my mindfulness.
Yes. My mind's still going, but I'm so present. I'm not thinking about
anything else and really proud. So I actually finish up late at night, go to
bed, and I'm like, how good was that? Yeah. And I start again. Whereas if
I just been on my phone and it's like, you know, in the morning, going
to the gym or for a walk, I feel so good about it. I've
realized that being on my phone, like, it's great to be able to communicate with
people and need it for a business, but that actually doesn't make me feel near
as good as what I should as a human. Yeah. And unfortunately, I think that
is across the board with everyone. So you've just got to stop doing it. Yeah.
And no one's gonna make you and start. And this is a simple way, right?
This is a simple increment. Half an hour. Yeah. Don't knock it out your life
completely, but knock half an hour off. And maybe that's a challenge over your holiday
period. Coming up. Look at your average screen time now and then go, right,
can I make that average half an hour lower in, in three weeks or four
weeks, whatever it might be of that over that Christmas period. But yeah, I don't
know, I thought LinkedIn pretty well. No, I like that. And mate, since obviously
working with you, you read every night and I wasn't doing that. I now
do that. So half an hour before I go to bed, I'm not on my
screen working, I go and have a shower and I read my book. And
that's made a huge difference as well. Yeah, Sleep quality, for example. Sleep quality.
Yeah. There's not always on me. You didn't have someone coming in every
night. That's all right now, I love you, mate, but yeah, you've got to bring
in good routines. And I actually really enjoy reading again. I always did,
but it's. I just forgot it because. So much easier you get in a bad
habit. Yeah. How good's that? Yeah, so, no, I do. And yeah, I'm reading a
really good book now. The Phil Jackson
I spoke about. This is a very big book. Coach of Chicago Bulls
and Lakers. Just talking about. Yeah. His leadership style
and so it's really good. Obviously we're writing our book at the moment and yeah,
I'm really enjoying it. Just working with someone like Michael Jordan and
just because he was so much better than everyone else but how he got the
best out of his team. So anyway, I wouldn't be doing that if I was
just scrolling on my phone. Yeah. So be intentional with and do something that you're
learning, you're feeling good and it's actually helping my sleep. Bang. Love it. There we
go. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for tuning in. Enjoy the lead
up to Christmas. Crazy times. Come on, the Aussies
and the cricket. Adios, amigos. We'll see you next week.