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Silent inflammation is not a buzzword, it is the quiet engine behind fatigue, brain fog, stubborn weight, anxiety, gut issues, and hormone chaos. In this episode, Dr. Taz explains what silent inflammation really is, how the cortisol hum keeps your body on alert, and why modern life, from blue light to isolation, adds fuel to the fire. You will learn how the hypothalamus, pituitary, and pineal act as a control hub, why normal labs can miss the gray zone, and the practical steps that calm your system so real healing can begin.

Dr. Taz shares:
• Why silent inflammation can start in the prenatal environment and echo through generations
• How chronic cortisol activation keeps you inflamed even when labs look normal
• The role of the hypothalamus pituitary axis in hormones, mood, and energy
• How blue light, toxins, poor sleep, and isolation raise your inflammatory load
• Simple daily practices that lower cortisol and reset your nervous system
• Why community, nature, and deep sleep are non negotiable for healing
• Tools like meditation, sound therapy, and scalp work that help flip the stress switch

Whether you feel off but cannot explain why, are chasing a diagnosis, or want a long term plan for energy, focus, and hormone balance, this episode gives you a clear roadmap to reduce inflammation and reclaim your vitality.

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Chapters
00:00 What is Silent Inflammation
02:00 The Cortisol Hum and Chronic Stress
04:00 Intergenerational and Environmental Inflammation
07:00 The Brain’s Role: Hypothalamus and Hormones
10:00 Hidden Symptoms Most Labs Miss
13:00 Daily Habits That Calm Inflammation
17:00 Meditation, Sound, and Nervous System Reset
20:00 Rewriting Your Inflammatory Story for Future Generations

Creators and Guests

Host
Dr. Taz Bhatia MD
Dr. Taz Bhatia is a triple-board-certified integrative medicine physician and founder of hol+, where she brings together science, spirit and the human experience to deliver holistic, whole-person care.
Producer
Pat Gostek
Founder of ClipGrowth.com - End-to-End YouTube, Podcast & Clips Management (you just record).

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[00:00:00] Silent
inflammation is the root of so many chronic health issues from fatigue and [00:00:05] weight gain to anxiety and autoimmune disease In this episode I'll explain what inflammation [00:00:10] really is how to recognize it and steps you can take to calm the fire inside your [00:00:15] body
The
word inflammation is something that most of us now recognize Over
my 20 years in practice in the [00:00:20] integrative and functional medicine space I am actually super happy that this is a word that [00:00:25] people don't scratch their heads about anymore But we are all inflamed And we are inflamed in [00:00:30] different ways and it's not just the big autoimmune disease or the scary diagnoses [00:00:35] of cancer or heart disease or any of those
There's silent inflammation happening [00:00:40] within us each and every day And unfortunately many of the conditions and [00:00:45] symptoms and even how we present
in
life are a reflection of this [00:00:50] silent inflammation
When I talk about inflammation and all of us being [00:00:55] inflamed I'm talking about the hum of cortisol the stress hormone that's [00:01:00] traveling throughout our body day in and day out
24 hour rhythm coming down through [00:01:05] time and keeping us in a chronic state
of
inflammation [00:01:10] Cortisol comes from lots of different places Most of you may hear the word cortisol and think [00:01:15] stress Well she's talking about the stress response and I am but there's acute stress where something [00:01:20] major happens or you have a deadline or you have some trauma or you have something that's happened that you [00:01:25] can explain
and that does create a cortisol response
It triggers inflammation [00:01:30] it triggers high blood sugar and it keeps us sometimes it acts even as [00:01:35] a tipping point for many different diseases. Those grandiose entries of [00:01:40] cortisol and inflammation may lead to the diagnosis of different diseases but that's not [00:01:45] what we're talking about today
In this episode I wanna break down this idea of [00:01:50] silent inflammation the cortisol hum how we are all inflamed and [00:01:55] is there anything that we can do about it?
Welcome to Hol+, the podcast that [00:02:00] embraces and tackles the holistic way, bringing it all together.
Science, research, [00:02:05] innovations and technology, and our collective human experience. This is where science and spirit [00:02:10] come together. I'm Dr. Taz, your host and a double board certified medical doctor and integrative health [00:02:15] expert, a nutritionist and an acupuncturist. I'm also the founder and CEO of Hol+.[00:02:20]
A digital and clinical platform where my team and I practice evidence-based [00:02:25] holistic medicine every single day. I know and I hear all the health and wellness noise [00:02:30] that's out there. I want this show to be the one to empower you with the knowledge you need to [00:02:35] heal. Not just your body, but your relationships, your communities, and our world.
[00:02:40] Welcome to Hol+
Silent inflammation can begin when we're not [00:02:45] even aware of it It can tie back to the prenatal environment It can [00:02:50] tie to how our early childhood played out Everything from the food we [00:02:55] ate the amount of stress we were exposed to amount of television [00:03:00] environmental toxins electronics you name it
but
inflammation being [00:03:05] influenced by so many different inputs all around us
What's even more [00:03:10] fascinating and interesting is there is now talk that some of this might actually [00:03:15] be intergenerational We have yet to prove it but so many studies are [00:03:20] starting to understand that inflammation can actually be coated
in
[00:03:25] your DNA in your mitochondria and transmitted down generation [00:03:30] after generation as can your stress response
In [00:03:35] 2017 or 2018 I did a TED Talk talking about this and it was fascinating to me at the time [00:03:40] reviewing the literature and the science that talked about the maternal or the mitochondrial [00:03:45] DNA Remember the mitochondria sits in the cell It's the powerhouse of a cell and [00:03:50] it's usually maternal inherited passed down generation after [00:03:55] generation When they study where emotions and thoughts are coded they often find [00:04:00] that it is coded in the mitochondria
and
in turn that cortisol [00:04:05] response is coded there as well So sit back and think about that for just a [00:04:10] second We talk about inflammation in so many different contexts right?
We talk about it [00:04:15] in the context of an anti-inflammatory diet or anti-inflammatory herbs and [00:04:20] supplements We love our curcumin or our boswellia you know all these different things that [00:04:25] seem to turn the body around and calm the immune system down How [00:04:30] much do we really talk about inflammation and cortisol in the [00:04:35] context of mitochondrial DNA and intergenerational habits and [00:04:40] patterns?
And that is what science is slowly starting to prove We're starting to [00:04:45] understand that under stress or under trauma there are actually changes to our genetic [00:04:50] code and that those genetic code changes are then handed down over [00:04:55] time generation after generation If the stress of each generation is [00:05:00] cumulative well then there are more genetic changes and that in turn [00:05:05] changes what happened when you arrived If you were born in an environment [00:05:10] where your mom or her ancestors experience incredible stress well [00:05:15] that prenatal environment is already more susceptible for you to [00:05:20] develop inflammation We see it in studies that are kind of one off right?
When we talk [00:05:25] about PCOS for example they now know that PCOS is connected to high [00:05:30] androgens and the high androgens are connected to high cortisol And a lot of that is present [00:05:35] as early as a prenatal in utero environment And then as you walk through [00:05:40] life it only exaggerates So sometimes you can say we are all [00:05:45] inflamed 'cause we've all come from a lineage of stress and inflammation and trauma
[00:05:50] And it's only exaggerated when we add to it the environment of today[00:05:55]
So
let's move forward just a little bit Even if we are walking around with [00:06:00] inherited genetic changes or a predisposition to stress and cortisol you might be [00:06:05] thinking well I can't do anything about that And you're right to a point[00:06:10]
but let's keep moving because beyond that childhood today teenage [00:06:15] today and adulthood today looks very different than it did 50 years ago[00:06:20]
There are hits to your inflammatory load from all kinds of [00:06:25] places Your toxic load is higher than it has been in the past We know that endocrine [00:06:30] disruptors glyphosate phthalate so many different chemicals exist today [00:06:35] and larger amounts than they did even two decades ago [00:06:40] We also understand that food quality is changing and going down adding to our inflammatory [00:06:45] load
We understand too that the environment is not only changing but [00:06:50] how we live is changing We are indoors more not in nature [00:06:55] surrounded by light and blue light disrupting and impacting our [00:07:00] circadian rhythms That also triggers inflammation as we've grown and [00:07:05] modernize and become a more technological society we're also becoming more isolated
[00:07:10] The nuclear family sometimes has shrunk even further down And in [00:07:15] that isolation and lack of community we continue to stay inflamed [00:07:20] because community lowers cortisol and our relationships [00:07:25] help us to stay in a lower stress or stress-free environment As long as they're [00:07:30] healthy So this idea of cyclical inflammation or [00:07:35] generational inflammation is predisposing all of us to staying [00:07:40] inflamed and then come the hits
So it's almost like we're walking into the situation [00:07:45] already not at a hundred percent And now the hits start coming [00:07:50] and like all autoimmune diseases the silent hum of cortisol [00:07:55] and inflammation Coded over time and throughout maybe your childhood and your early [00:08:00] adulthood is the setup in the precipice for a full-blown disease[00:08:05]
There are many diseases of inflammation today cancer diabetes autoimmune disease [00:08:10] cardiometabolic diseases mental health diseases all of them hallmarks of [00:08:15] inflammation
But
what if we could prevent it all? And what [00:08:20] if we could act on silent inflammation even earlier? Then [00:08:25] before we started to notice symptoms and conditions how [00:08:30] amazing would that be?
Where we could actually rewrite the script we could flip it [00:08:35] and turn it around so that we don't have to live out a story of inflammation and high [00:08:40] cortisol that maybe those that came before us did big inflammation [00:08:45] right? Chronic inflammation The
one that I diagnosed in the exam room the one that gives me a high [00:08:50] CRPA high sed rate you know high TGF beta high interleukin six [00:08:55] That stuff is easy to spot at least easy for me It should [00:09:00] be easy for you The symptoms of big inflammation as I'm gonna call it the [00:09:05] grandiose dramatic inflammation are everything from joint pain brain fog [00:09:10] rashes that you can't explain fatigue or chronic fatigue even depression and [00:09:15] anxiety
All symptoms of inflammation changes in your weight are [00:09:20] often one of the first hallmark signs of ongoing inflammation disruptions in your gut health and your [00:09:25] overall hormone health All of it A sign of inflammation Many [00:09:30] times that's what drives you into the exam room and you show up ready to [00:09:35] understand what's going on
Others you might ignore it and wait for the actual [00:09:40] diagnoses Either way that inflammation is more tactical maybe
[00:09:45] maybe
more tangible maybe something we can understand and even measure a little bit [00:09:50] more easily But remember We're already walking around [00:09:55] inflamed We're all inflamed And what we do wanna understand in more depth
is what
are [00:10:00] those silent symptoms of inflammation?
There's
an autoimmune disease that [00:10:05] is becoming an epidemic among us and that disease is called [00:10:10] autoimmune hypothalamus
and
symptom is high cortisol
and
[00:10:15] inflammation Some of the subtle signs and symptoms of this are showing up [00:10:20] in your everyday life and you're simply not aware of it They're showing up in your [00:10:25] personality your irritability your anxiety your inability to [00:10:30] connect to somebody else your desire to withdraw and to [00:10:35] isolate
Many of these are signs of silent inflammation They're showing up [00:10:40] in your gut health and your hormone health It could be simply not feeling good after a [00:10:45] meal bloating or reflux It could also be things like missing periods [00:10:50] not having the energy that you normally do or for many of our men [00:10:55] today having trouble building muscle or gaining muscle they're showing up in our [00:11:00] brains where we can't focus and concentrate
Why are so many of our children on [00:11:05] a DD and A DHD medications? What's happening there? It's almost like the [00:11:10] brain can't handle the load that is expected to perform at today [00:11:15] These are all signs of silent inflammation
This cortisol [00:11:20] hum and this silent inflammation can make you not take a risk or a chance [00:11:25] on something that you might have
and it
can prevent you from getting pregnant or building the [00:11:30] family that you always wanted
But to understand silent inflammation [00:11:35] it takes a little bit more work than a standard lab panel and understanding and [00:11:40] checking the boxes off typical inflammatory markers We have to start thinking [00:11:45] about ourselves as all susceptible to this idea of hypothalamus [00:11:50] where we are inflamed from the start and now we need to work proactively to [00:11:55] reduce it and to minimize it
it
That's where autoimmune hypothalamus comes into [00:12:00] the picture And it helps us to understand silent inflammation in the [00:12:05] context of not just a cortisol hum or an intergenerational [00:12:10] issue or an environmental issue or food issue but really how the [00:12:15] entire nervous and hormone system and inflammatory and immunology [00:12:20] cascade work together
Now that's a lot So I want you to take a second to [00:12:25] process all of that that we are essentially tying together what has happened before [00:12:30] you with what happened during your childhood with the environment that you're now walking into [00:12:35] and weaving it together And understanding now that so many people before they [00:12:40] get a diagnosis of a chronic disease already have a disease [00:12:45] called hypothalamus
And I wanna take a second to help you understand what that is and [00:12:50] visualize what that is So when I use the word hypothalamus what in the world
are we talking [00:12:55] about? So the hypothalamus is a section of the brain It sits literally right here behind [00:13:00] the pineal gland Very deep
but
up with the pituitary gland The two [00:13:05] almost work together and it's so important for you to visually understand this and here's the [00:13:10] reason why
All of these guys are interconnected The pineal gland is receiving [00:13:15] light telling us when to sleep when to wake regulating melatonin Melatonin [00:13:20] regulates insulin and right behind it is this hypothalamus and pituitary The [00:13:25] hypothalamus is your sensor I always equate it to like the shark's spin It's running around in [00:13:30] the environment sensing your temperature your mood you know what's going on in
Is there a [00:13:35] danger? Is there anything in the environment that we need to be aware of? Your [00:13:40] hypothalamus Your hypothalamus is conscious of what to do in a moment or [00:13:45] in a situation and regulates your fight or flight response Now right [00:13:50] next to your hypothalamus again is that pituitary gland and that pituitary is res
[00:13:55] Responsible
for secreting the hormones that regulate production of hormones from [00:14:00] all the different end organs of the body Your ovaries your uterus your thyroid your [00:14:05] adrenal glands you name it So we've got the hypothalamus sensing everything the pineal gland [00:14:10] taking light and input in and then the pituitary regulating hormones but it [00:14:15] also regulates your neurotransmitters
So that's your dopamine your serotonin and your [00:14:20] gaba So they're almost like this On off switch is probably the best [00:14:25] way to think about it Hypothalamus alerts the pituitary starts to act [00:14:30] Pituitary pumps out cortisol and adrenaline and all these stress hormones those stress [00:14:35] hormones influence all the other hormones
Testosterone estrogen progesterone and the secretion [00:14:40] of those And this circuit kind of works together On and off and up and [00:14:45] down protecting one another and deciding what's going to happen with the physiology with the [00:14:50] biochemistry of your body
Think about what that means That means [00:14:55] first of all that a single stressor is impacting the nervous system [00:15:00] in its entirety and also maybe impacting your hormones
The two are so [00:15:05] intertwined So when we are all inflamed and [00:15:10] when we've undergone assault after assault after assault whether it is as a child [00:15:15] or in utero or intergenerationally That hypothalamus [00:15:20] is already on alert You may be three years old and your [00:15:25] hypothalamus is on alert You may be 50 years old and that hypothalamus is on [00:15:30] alert and that chronic state of cortical activation or being on alert or [00:15:35] in fight mode or flight mode keeps us all inflamed [00:15:40] even when you are trying to pursue diet and supplements and lifestyle [00:15:45] modification
If we're not dealing with this central area of the brain that's working [00:15:50] together and chronically deciding really commanding what's going on with the rest of the [00:15:55] body we're doing the body a disservice There are a lot of specific examples that [00:16:00] I can give you and a lot of things we can't explain in medicine that I think can be explained by [00:16:05] this particular pattern by this particular disease the conventional [00:16:10] approach to looking at the hypothalamus and the pituitary gland is to check [00:16:15] traditional markers whether those are hormones or even looking at neurotransmitter markers and then [00:16:20] deciding what's deficient or what's in excess and then kind of going from there
Here's [00:16:25] some classic signs and symptoms If you looked it up in a medical textbook for example your blood [00:16:30] pressure is determined by the hypothalamus your fluid shift
Whether
you're retaining [00:16:35] water or dehydrated is also determined Have you ever looked at somebody who's super stressed and they just [00:16:40] look puffy?
Well that's why the hypothalamus is driving that Things like [00:16:45] infertility again driven by the hypothalamus and in addition to that [00:16:50] delayed puberty or even precocious puberty that we're seeing a lot of today Muscle weakness [00:16:55] sleep disturbances temperature regulation
all
of it associated [00:17:00] with the hypothalamus
Hypothalamic activation is connected to PCOS and [00:17:05] androgen sensitivity and it's also now connected to the drop in [00:17:10] testosterone that we're seeing in men
So maybe those are easier to diagnose right [00:17:15] When we are all inflamed and we have silent inflammation many of us live in [00:17:20] the gray zone The zone where the labs don't really tell us very much but we [00:17:25] know something's off or maybe our subconscious knows that something's off
Here are [00:17:30] a few signs and symptoms personality changes If you've gone from [00:17:35] being and this is across every age by the way a happy go lucky child now fearful or [00:17:40] anxious That's a sign they've got hypothalamic activation Someone who [00:17:45] was relatively comfortable in social situations and now has social anxiety[00:17:50]
Hypothalamic activation hypothalamus fatigue even if it's low [00:17:55] grade not showing up for activities not being able to perform the way you once were [00:18:00] Again a sign of hypothalamic activation as is changes in sex drive skipping [00:18:05] period excessive thirst These are all signs subtle more [00:18:10] subtle signs of inflammation in the hypothalamus
Once we recognize [00:18:15] that the hypothalamus is driving a lot of our symptoms of inflammation as we [00:18:20] experience it today then we can actually start to build a plan to reverse all of [00:18:25] this But first is the recognition and the reason I wanted to do this episode and call [00:18:30] attention to this it's because I feel like we have a lot of plans for a lot of different things but we [00:18:35] don't understand that we have to take cortical activation down at the level of the [00:18:40] hypothalamus
At the level of the pituitary to truly embark on a healing journey [00:18:45] When we don't do that and we're sort of like taking this for inflammation and taking that for hormone [00:18:50] balance and you know randomly doing things and not incorporating this critical [00:18:55] piece of it then we don't truly recover a hundred percent
And true [00:19:00] healing happens when the nervous system and the hypothalamus Calm [00:19:05] down I want you guys to remember that true healing happens when we can get that [00:19:10] hypothalamic pituitary access to calm down So we need all of [00:19:15] it to work together So let's start to build a model where that can actually [00:19:20] happen rather than it seeming like something so intangible that is not realistic to do
do
[00:19:25] So it begins with first of all a certain amount of awareness that this is going on [00:19:30] and this is something that we need to deal with and it does now begin in a slightly different [00:19:35] way than many of the other medical conditions we've talked about on this show
We
think gut health [00:19:40] is important We still think an anti-inflammatory diet is important
Optimizing
[00:19:45] nutrients are important All of those things still hold in building a toolbox to [00:19:50] tackle autoimmune hypothalamus But here's what's different [00:19:55] We have to actively work on lowering cortisol and lowering [00:20:00] down hypothalamic cortical activation And the way to do that is [00:20:05] conscious resting which is so difficult to do and conscious [00:20:10] resting
when we're
talking about it with silent inflammation is not scrolling on your phone
[00:20:15] It's not even watching a show It's going into those deeper healing states the type [00:20:20] of states that maybe the Buddhist monks go into or your shamans and your healers [00:20:25] go into because in those deep deep states of healing that's where the brain [00:20:30] resets and that's where you flip the switch onto intergenerational trauma
[00:20:35] and cortical
activation
What
that means is that you have to [00:20:40] prioritize and almost pursue this type of healing We have to bring the nervous [00:20:45] system back into alignment So now the priorities become deep [00:20:50] consistent sleep Are you or your child or anybody in your family [00:20:55] getting at least 90 minutes of deep sleep and 90 minutes of REM sleep?
Are we [00:21:00] resetting cortisol at the level of the hypothalamus? What are you doing to force your [00:21:05] nervous system to relax? That means now we have budgets around how much time [00:21:10] we can be in blue light or in light in general and increased budgets [00:21:15] about being in nature off phones off devices to really absorb nature [00:21:20] and its rhythms which help to bring cortisol activation down
In addition to that [00:21:25] we have to pursue modalities that calm the nervous system down at that deep hypothalamic [00:21:30] layer Sound bats are one of my favorites I don't know if you guys have ever tried one of these [00:21:35] but they instantly bring the nervous system back into balance and they instantly bring [00:21:40] some calmness
The frequencies will change what's happening with cortical activation in the brain[00:21:45]
Modalities
like sra which is fascinating or even now the more [00:21:50] modern version of the head spa where you are forcing that nervous system to relax in [00:21:55] these command centers Again a great way to gradually bring cortisol [00:22:00] down
Another way to do it at home is to again oil the scalp or [00:22:05] massage the scalp and definitely massage right here between your third eye These are all [00:22:10] ways to change the chemistry and the biochemistry of what's happening through here
through here
one of the [00:22:15] greatest tools is meditation But meditation over a period of time [00:22:20] is what ultimately changes what's going on at the level of the hypothalamus It can [00:22:25] start with five minutes and go to 10 minutes and then ultimately trying to even get to about a [00:22:30] half an hour a day
It's an incredible way to literally put water on a fiery [00:22:35] brain All of these are strategies to help calm inflammation [00:22:40] down at the level of the hypothalamus and in turn reset every [00:22:45] other system in the body
But as you can imagine this is not something that happens in a day [00:22:50] or even in a month This is something that happens over time and is gradual but with [00:22:55] consistency and effort We can see the changes You see it because your [00:23:00] emotions change your personality changes your energy changes your [00:23:05] hormones reregulate have you ever talked to somebody who's reregulated their hormones through [00:23:10] meditation?
That's what I'm talking about It's happened to me once where I for the first [00:23:15] time had three consecutive weeks off and my entire issue with [00:23:20] my hormones and my hair reset in those three weeks because I was in the sun I was sleeping [00:23:25] deeply I was happy had no stress around me and it was literally like a [00:23:30] switch was flipped and everything reset
So
for anyone out there who is [00:23:35] struggling with their health and is trying everything but nothing is working [00:23:40] I want you to think about this as a potential diagnosis Remember that you may have [00:23:45] entered whatever health equation or relationship equation or work [00:23:50] equation already inflamed already cortically activated
And as [00:23:55] life happens and as things happen you may be pushed as a tipping point [00:24:00] into a diagnosis of some kind
And
you
can change it by doing [00:24:05] all the things you're already doing But if you're missing thinking about the [00:24:10] hypothalamus and the pituitary locked together working together in [00:24:15] synergy trying to reset your health we're missing a really important piece of the [00:24:20] puzzle
and that
could be your block in your healing journey to getting better[00:24:25]
So whether it's sound baths or yoga or meditation or deep [00:24:30] breathing or hyperbaric therapy whatever the modality we [00:24:35] want to pursue the ability to get the nervous system to relax at the [00:24:40] level up here not just lower and beyond So we are all [00:24:45] inflamed because our ancestors Our lineages have all gone [00:24:50] probably through something indescribable something they can't explain or verbalize
[00:24:55] And the genetics with each passing generation have changed but it's our [00:25:00] responsibility now to own that understand that and to flip that code so [00:25:05] that we can then pass on healthier genetics to future generations But more [00:25:10] importantly
Set ourselves
up to be less inflamed and healthier [00:25:15] more energetic
And a more vibrant version of ourselves not just for us but for the [00:25:20] families and the communities that we live in as well If this episode spoke to you share it with someone who [00:25:25] needs it Subscribe for more and check whole plusco for free resources to [00:25:30] start your healing journey
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