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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Hulghouse. So since the beginning of this show, really, back in, you know, 2020, I'd say that one of the main focuses that I've had, for a few different reasons has been exposing the very corrupted medical system. And it's not just the medical system here in America. It is the global medical system.
Speaker 1:You know, traces to the the WHO, to a lot of the other bigger medical, you know, associations, big pharma specifically. And, you know, we've been on many journeys with the guests on this show tracing back and sorting out, the origins of what you would call the the modern day Rockefeller led medical system here in America. It's really in the early nineteen hundreds, when Rockefeller put huge amounts of money into basically overtaking our medical system and taking the old ways of doing medicine, the ways that a lot of us are now rediscovering, and demonizing those ways and casting them off. And I think more importantly, funding the studies that disprove those old ways, while simultaneously proving the validity of the modern medical system, the pharmaceutical system. Right?
Speaker 1:And so that's left us at a place now where I think a lot of us are scratching our heads looking around and saying, how on earth did this happen? How did we get here? And so a lot of what, you know, I've done this show has is really kind of pulling the layers back of this medical system and showing, unfortunately, just how evil it is. If you look at the childhood vaccine schedule, you look at the unfortunate, you know, act of eight in 1986 under Reagan, where he gave these vaccine manufacturers, basically, immunity, saying, look. It doesn't really matter if your vaccines kill people or cause autism or, you know, cause chronic illness for life because they're so important that, you know, there's gonna be a little bit of cannon fodder that happens.
Speaker 1:There's some collateral damage, so it's okay if the rest of us are safe. But what we're now seeing is actually that we're much safer without so much of what this modern medical system, has grown into. Now I'm still a believer in emergency medicine. Right? If I was out in my backyard chopping a tree down with a chainsaw, and I slipped and I cut my leg open, I would want an ambulance to rush to my house and take me to the hospital and and stitch me up.
Speaker 1:Like, if I was bleeding out of a femoral artery or something, like, I'd want the emergency medical response to that. Right? I wouldn't be calling a a a Chinese doctor to come do some acupuncture on me to to fix my leg. Right? So the the modern medical system definitely has its place in emergency medicine.
Speaker 1:However, that's not what is causing the autism, you know, all this insane stuff that's happening. Right? It is the preventative treatments. It's the vaccines and so much more. And, unfortunately, the more you dig into this, the more evil you find.
Speaker 1:And so today's topic is going to be about organ harvesting. Now this is something that I've actually been covering for I mean, on the show for almost since the beginning of my show, as you'll see as we get in. But, I've actually been involved in exposing organ harvesting since, gosh, 2008 or so, 2009 over in China, and and helping people understand that, yeah, there are countries that are literally, harvesting the organs of their own people. And but what's crazy is that we're now seeing that's being done here in America. And so that's what we're gonna be getting into in today's show.
Speaker 1:Now, before we jump in, you might hear a little bit difference, in my voice. I'm recovering from actually being quite ill. And I I I'm actually thankfully, I'm much better, But for the past, like, five or six weeks, I've just been struggling with fatigue and, you know, just being really, really, really low energy, fever kinda coming and going, and I didn't know what was going on. And, actually, so I'm pretty sure that I figured out what I did. I I think it relates to me kind of boneheaded mistake, but, doing, like, a really intense clean of my goat house where where the goats live without wearing a respirator or goggles.
Speaker 1:I just you know, I thought like, oh, I'm invincible. It doesn't really matter. And so, actually, I think that I was suffering from some sort of toxic mold poisoning, like something coming off because, you know, the goat house had gotten a little bit kind of, it wasn't ideal, the situation in the goat house. And, you know, I'm a new goat owner, so I'm learning these things. And so I was in there for probably, I don't know, half an hour cleaning up some pretty nasty stuff that just, you know, animals create messes.
Speaker 1:And, anyway, but I I had seen a handful of people saying and asking, well, Seth, what what have you done to treat yourself? So I thought I'd just take a quick second just to share that because, you know, I I'm interviewing doctors almost weekly. You know, probably half of my content is is medical and health related. And so it begs the question of like, okay. Well, Seth, what do you do when you fell ill?
Speaker 1:Right? Do you sneak off to the western doctor and get some, you know, some new pharmaceuticals? No, actually. So I'll tell you I'll tell you just quickly just a handful of things that I did. I think that all worked in conjunction.
Speaker 1:And, thankfully, I've got a lot of good friends that are, you know, doctors or people that are highly involved in the medical situation, so I can text them and get some good feedback. So, like, you know, doctor Brian Artis is someone I regularly, you know, consult or Carrie Maday or, Jonathan Otto, who's, you know, brilliant when it comes to CDS. So, anyway so what I did is I used doctor Brian Artis has a, a thing called Biodefense, which is a it's like I think it's black cumin seed oil is one the main ingredients. It tastes disgusting, so I'll just tell you that, but, it's it's very effective. Actually, our nanny had Lyme disease recently.
Speaker 1:She got bit by a tick, is which a whole different story about government bioweapons. And, we gave her some the biodefense, and and she recovered, like, very, very quickly. I think a lot of it was because of the biodefense. So I took biodefense. I think probably the the two biggest things that I did that that made an impact were red light sessions.
Speaker 1:So we've got a a red light panel, and I think I probably did probably three or four different, like, one hour red light sessions. I that was really important. Actually, I fell asleep on the red light, which was kinda nice. And then also, CDS. Pardon me.
Speaker 1:So chlorine dioxide. I did some, like, really high dose, you know, long hour, hour and a half long baths where where I I did I think it was, like, a 100 mils of of, the CDS solution. Think Jonathan Otto, I texted him, and he gave me a whole protocol. So I did a couple, like, very long CDS baths and then did some, you know, some intense kind of heavier dose CDS, you know, water, as well. And I think, actually, that was it was the CDS.
Speaker 1:It was actually a combination of the CDS and red light one day, I think, the next day that really helped turn things around. In addition to that, just a lot of just other kind of health protocols. I don't have sitting here as I show you. My chronic silver, I took some of chronic silver, some of the nasal spray. We have some deep lung stuff.
Speaker 1:A few kind of things that we've gotten from, Mike Adams. He's got some really good health related items. Elderberry, took took a bunch of elderberry with these little elderberry sachets as took a bunch of those, ginger, some more natural things. And then I did a couple rounds of, acupuncture as well. I'm big believer.
Speaker 1:Like, if you look at our medical system, and we're trying to discover what was going on a hundred years ago, and how much was lost. What what if you look in the traditional Chinese medicine, TCM, what you see is that, you know, they've got thousands of years of history of their medical system. And that medical system, if you go to the the origins, like, you know, a true traditional Chinese medicine doctor, it wasn't corrupted. Nowadays in China, a lot of their medicine has been influenced by the West. And so the you you have a lot of the Western medicine, the pharmaceuticals, and everything that are influencing, but a lot of people over in China, not just China, but Asia in general, still follow, TCM.
Speaker 1:And so the the acupuncture is actually surprisingly effective as well. A few other, you know, kind of things as as well, you know, diet, sunlight, you know, going laying in the sun, that was helpful as well. But that was I might be missing a couple of things, but that was the main mix of of what I did, to to to I think to really recover. So for those you that are asking, that's probably, like, the main kinda cocktail that I did. And that's normally our our our main thing is as well.
Speaker 1:Also, I think I did a little bit of CBD, not too much. We have a topical CBD, cream that I use sometimes. I think I did some of that in my chest as we have, like, a menthol type one. It's like a CBD kind of organic, nicer version of, like, Vicks, like, the more menthol vapor stuff. And and these are all the the same products that we use with our our kids.
Speaker 1:Like, the Biodefense is a is a a we have a swimming pool if they come in with they have an earache or something. Biodefense in the ears works wonders. And, also, apple cider vinegar in the ears is actually really well. Works great for kids as well. So, anyway, before I jump into today's story, I wanted to give you just that quick overview because I I really try to practice what I preach.
Speaker 1:You know, the the interviews I do, the information that that I'm learning along with you, you know, my wife, Kate, and I, we we try so hard to implement this stuff in our our daily lives. You know, we also we got rid of our smart meter. We have a grounding mat on our bed. You know, we we do all kinds of, like, you know, healthy things. We, you know, we eat very, very well.
Speaker 1:So, anyway, that's how I'm I'm back. And sorry I haven't published, you know, as many shows as I normally do over the past couple of weeks, but, just been kind of recovering and and taking some time just to heal myself, which is important because I I tend to just keep going and say, no. It's okay. I'll be okay. I'll be okay.
Speaker 1:And it's the case until I'm not. So, like, the other day, I I think my fever was at a 102.5 almost all day, which was not nice. But I actually think that the I think what actually helped with that was the CDS bath. That was one of the days I did the CDS bath, and it was really helpful. So getting into today's story on organ harvesting.
Speaker 1:So there's two parts to today's show. The first part, I'm just gonna talk about some some recent stuff that's come to light in the past couple of days about basically how our own hospital system here in America has been murdering people, literally taking people that were still alive and extracting their organs. And and I'll get into it. It's it's absolutely disgusting and frightening. And then the second half of the show is actually, I'm gonna publish an interview that I did early on in the days of men in America, where, through a friend of mine, a guy named Mitchell Gerber, who is an an expert in, especially exposing communism to China.
Speaker 1:You know, he lives he's over in that region. He and he I was asking to come back on the show for this interview, but he actually has to stay kinda low right now for a few different reasons I won't talk about publicly. But, it's an interview where he lined up, and he helped bring on this guest that was a surgeon in China that fled China because he was, basically being forced to do live organ harvesting in China. And so, hearing it from him is is mind blowing. I remember this is one of the the the earliest interviews I did, and I think it was back in 2021, but absolutely incredible interview and very revealing.
Speaker 1:But hearing it from the doctor that fled China because he was he was being forced to do live organ harvesting and the stories that he has. And he he also talks about why a lot of the the Uighurs and the Muslim population are being kept in the camps there, and he reveals that the Uighurs actually, one of the main kind of benefits of them is that they can supply, organs to the Middle Eastern buyers that are primarily Muslim, and they don't want to have they don't wanna have organs that don't adhere to their way. I think it's halal is is is what they're kind of, you know, kind of like you have that kosher for the Jewish and halal, I think, for the Muslim. So they want halal organs, basically. And so he gets into that, and and I think that was the first time I'd ever heard that, and he revealed it.
Speaker 1:And it's like, I I would trust the guy that fled China talking about this stuff. So, that will be the second half of today's show. But first off, let me just go ahead and dive in to this. Crazy story. Scott Robert Sterling says, people on Twitter have been talking about premature organ harvesting for years.
Speaker 1:I'll be honest. I thought it was a conspiracy theory. I was wrong. It's real, and it's horrific. Now maybe he thought that the conspiracy theory was whether it was taking place in America, because, I mean, it's it's been proven this has been happening in China for a very, very long time.
Speaker 1:Not to mention, I mean, there's there's an entire black market of organ harvesting. But if you look at more state run, that's just what they were getting into. So this is just a an article that New York Times recently published. This is really making its waves. It says a push for more organ transplants is putting donors at risk.
Speaker 1:Says people across The United States have endured rushed or premature attempts to remove their organs. Some were gasping, crying, or showing other signs of life. It says, but in recent years, as the system has pushed to increase transplants, a growing number of patients have endured premature or bungled attempts to retrieve their organs. Though miss Hawkins case is an extreme example of what can go wrong, a New York Times examination revealed a pattern of rushed decision making that has prioritized the need for more organs over the safety of potential donors. In New Mexico, a woman was subjected to days of preparations for donation even after her family said that she seemed to be regaining consciousness, which she eventually did.
Speaker 1:In Florida, a man cried and bit on his breathing tube, but was still withdrawn from life support. In West Virginia, doctors were appalled when coordinators asked a paralyzed man coming off sedatives in an Operating Room for consent to remove his organs. He says, this is insane. It continues. The Times found that some organ procurement organizations, the nonprofits in each state that have federal contracts to coordinate transplants, are aggressively pursuing circulatory death donors and pushing families and doctors towards surgery.
Speaker 1:Hospitals are responsible for patients up to the moment of death, but some are allowing procurement organizations to influence treatment decisions. Now I thought one of these, responses here is quite telling as well. This guy, Ben Little said, one of my very best friends works for a major hospital group in Indiana, told me crazy stories that the organ harvesters would be hovering over a still alive patient of theirs with no certainty of death, like literally having to kick them out of the rooms, which is just insane. But Do you keep hearing more cases of your friends and family getting a life threatening diagnosis of cancer, or perhaps it's even happened to you? Well, the unfortunate reality is that turbo cancer is now a worldwide epidemic.
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Speaker 1:So my my older brother, he passed away when he was 33. I was 30. He was 33. This happened, I think, it was back in 2014, 2015. And now he wasn't an organ donor because he, he saw through the system and didn't trust the medical system, and he was smart in that way.
Speaker 1:However, what I so, basically, I'll give you a quick summary of what happened because it was it was actually a catastrophic failure on the the on the hospital's part. So he had been sick for a little while and and and wasn't really sure what it was and kept trying to kinda just just kinda ignore it a little bit. And, but then one day, you know, his his he kept saying his chest was feeling really heavy. He's having trouble breathing, and so his wife had taken took him into the ER. Well, as soon as they did the vitals on him, they, like, freaked out.
Speaker 1:Right? And I was actually in Hong Kong on a business trip at this time, which is kind of a whole different story. But so what happened is they basically, they they ran his vitals, and they discovered that through kind of, you know, examining everything that he had all this fluid in his chest. And I think this is where I think they made a big mistake. So what they did is they drained about two liters of fluid from his chest cavity.
Speaker 1:So his body had produced two liters of excess fluid in his chest cavity. Now the reason that his body had produced this fluid is because he had a large tumor. Right? He had non Hodgkin's lymphoma, and it had developed into a large tumor that was over his heart and his left lung. And so when they drained that fluid from his chest cavity, his chest basically, the tumor, his chest cavity collapsed in, and the tumor compressed, stopped his heart, and collapsed his left lung.
Speaker 1:So as soon as they drained that fluid, he went into instant cardiac arrest. And so they did they they instantly did start doing CPR. They did CPR, think it was, like, for fifteen minutes before they could hook him up to an ECMO machine. So an ECMO machine is basically an external heart. So it's a machine that pumps your blood for you, and they what they do or what they did with him because I was I flew back, like, instantly from Hong Kong, and I and I was actually lived I was stayed lived in the lobby of the hospital for, three or four months, like, the first three or four months.
Speaker 1:I didn't never even set foot in my apartment, at that point, and and it was kind of a crazy, really kind of traumatic kind of process. It took about eighteen months before he finally passed, unfortunately. But, anyway, so this what what the ECMO is a, I think it's you have your two femoral arteries. You have these two arteries that kind of major ones that go down through your thighs, and so that's where they kind of connect one in and one out, and it creates your heart. So but when he went through that that period of he had it was basically a period of like a massive stroke.
Speaker 1:Right? He had a a fifteen minute period of extremely limited oxygen to his brain, which caused catastrophic brain damage. And so this is the situation where I think it'd be very common for someone to come in and say, look, he's not gonna wake up. Let's go ahead and take him. You know, he he could be an organ donor.
Speaker 1:He can save another life. Let's go ahead and just do it. Now because he wasn't an organ donor, they didn't do that immediately, which is obviously good. But I remember, honestly, it took for the first, like, three weeks, all we heard from the doctors was that he's never going to wake up. He's not like, they said, like, look, we we they had him on like a high dose kind of tranquilizer to keep him in a medically induced coma.
Speaker 1:And they said, look, whenever we reduce these tranquilizers, we're seeing brain waves indicative of of seizures. And so they're saying, look, so as soon as we pull him off these coma drugs, he starts having seizures. And so they said, his brain is is catastrophically damaged. He's not gonna wake up. Now, his wife and I, you know, we we and, you know, my family as well, but we we his wife and I especially, because we both lived in New York City at the time.
Speaker 1:We were kind of really a team in this. And, you know, between the two of us, we were always next to him. Like, we we had shifts, so we were always bedside with him, like, twenty four hours a day. And then me and my mom was there, you know, etcetera. She was also, you know, spent a lot of time there at the hospital.
Speaker 1:But what happened though is is we said, no. It doesn't matter. Like, we have faith. Like, we, you know, believe that there's something higher than called God, and and you are the doctors, and you are not God. So he's still alive, and we're not gonna believe you.
Speaker 1:And so after, I think it was around three or four weeks, he started showing signs of life. You know, blinking, you know, his eyes started opening. I remember he he he kind of would grab with his hands a little bit. And and even then, because these doctors were so arrogant, and they they they refused to be wrong, they they mocked us. Like, in honestly, they they were like it's almost like that they they talked they spoke to us as if we were idiots for thinking we knew more than them.
Speaker 1:And we're like, no. Look. We're telling you. He he's starting to communicate with us. And they're like, no.
Speaker 1:There's no way. There's no way. Like, he he he's brain dead. There's no way. They brought in palliative care and started talking us about end of life procedures and pulling the plug, and we refused it.
Speaker 1:And after maybe six weeks or so, he actually started waking up. And the I I think none of the doctors apologized. None of them came in and said, look, we're so sorry we were wrong. We should have listened to you. But he he actually started waking up.
Speaker 1:And now he had catastrophic brain damage, and he had, you know, seizures, and he is partially paralyzed and everything. But, actually, over the course of the next nine months, when we were with him in the hospital, he slowly woke up. And, he started, you know, kinda coming to to a point that, you know, he he was having conversations with us, and he started doing physical therapy. And so he actually, like, came back. Now he even at nine months, he still had a lot of issues neurologically and everything, but, like, he he he came back.
Speaker 1:It's like the doctors were wrong. So when I read these stories about them convincing people and telling people, hey. Look. Your loved one, like their past, which I'll get more into details of this. And I I just feel like, gosh.
Speaker 1:I've been there. I know what it's like when all the doctors are saying, just, you know, give up hope. He's not coming back. Let's just go ahead, and I could imagine that conversation where they're saying, look, you can save three other lives if you allow him to be an organ organ donor. Okay?
Speaker 1:But we saw that he came back. Right? He he got out of the hospital, and he lived back at home. He had we had an in home health person, and his wife stayed home a lot with him, and I took my shifts too to stay with him because he needed full time assistance because he was paralyzed, and he still was having seizures, and and that that they were still battling the the battling the tumor, and he was going through chemo. And this was before I knew anything that I know now about the modern health system.
Speaker 1:I mean, now it's like, I I don't really fear cancer. I mean, I I I fear actually, I don't really fear a whole lot, but, like, now I look at cancer as something. It's it's like, oh, okay. Well, you can treat it with these ways. Don't go don't run straight to chemo.
Speaker 1:Right? Because, that's that's not always the best solution. There's a lot of solutions that, you know, people I've interviewed, whether it's Laetrile, you know, b seventeen. There's just there's so many different things. You know, we have doctor MacKus using ivermectin fimidazole, people using red light therapy, and, you know, CDS.
Speaker 1:There's just so many different ways that people have discovered to treat cancer now, so it's a it's a whole different story. But at that time, I just didn't know. I thought, well, these are the doctors, and they they they must know. But I saw so many holes in the system. But, anyway, so he he lived for another nine months, you know, outside of the hospital, and was doing physical therapy, was getting closer to maybe being able to walk again, was gaining control of his hands because he had something called myoclonus, which was kinda giving him twitches and neurological damage.
Speaker 1:But he was talking and and having fun and telling jokes, and and my my older brother was back. But then after eighteen months of the entire event, he did the tumor came back, and I think it just it just stressed his system. I think that just one night that he just had a catastrophic heart attack and just died instantly one night, which was a whole I remember that night, like, was yesterday. But, so when I when I see these stories about organ harvesting and everything, it's just it's just all too real. But, getting back, there's actually an interesting overview that someone did, because RFK junior has now kind of acknowledged this publicly.
Speaker 1:This is what's big about it. Right? So this is an, this guy named John Fleetwood. This is a SubSac article he just put out, yesterday, saying hospitals are harvesting organs when patients showed signs of life. There's an HHS investigation.
Speaker 1:So it says hot quote. This is a quote from Kennedy, or RFK. He says, hospitals allow the organ procurement process to begin when patients showed signs of life, and this is horrifying. So I'll just do a quick overview of some of these points, of this article. It says in a horrifying revelation, the US Department of Health and Human Services under the leadership of secretary Robert f, Robert f Kennedy junior on Monday announced, quote, a major initiative to begin reforming the organ transplant system following an investigation by its Health Resources and Services Administration, HRSA, that revealed disturbing practices by a major organ procurement organization.
Speaker 1:It says our findings show that hospitals allowed organ allowed the organ procurement process to begin when patient patients showed signs of life. And this is horrifying, HHS secretary Kennedy said. The organ procurement organizations that coordinate access to transplants will be held accountable. The entire system must be fixed to ensure that every potential donor's life is treated with the sanctity it deserves. So the HRSA directed the Organ Procurement and Transplantation Network to reopen a disturbing case involving potentially preventable harm to a neurologically injured patient by the federally funded organ procurement organization serving Kentucky, Southwest Ohio, and part of West Virginia.
Speaker 1:Now what's interesting, it says that the Biden administration saw the OPTN's membership and professional standards committee close the case without action. Okay? That changed under Secretary Kennedy's, leadership. So according to HHS, the HRSA demanded a thorough independent review of the OPO's conduct and the treatment of vulnerable patients under its care. HRSA's independent investigation revealed clear negligence after the previous OPTN board of directors claimed to find no major concerns in their internal review.
Speaker 1:So look at this. So the HRSSA examined a staggering three hundred and fifty one cases where organ donation was authorized, but ultimately not completed if found. Hundred and three cases showed concerning features, including seventy three patients with neurological signs incompatible with organ donation. My guess is that neurological signs incompatible with organ donation means that they've got brain activity that shows that they're not actually dead, and they shouldn't be have their organs removed. He says at least twenty one patients may not have been deceased at the time organ procurement was initiated, raising serious ethical and legal questions.
Speaker 1:Evidence pointed to poor neurologic assessments, lack of coordination with medical teams, questionable consent practices, and misclassification of causes of death, particularly in overdose cases. So this is crazy though, that they're saying that right here. At least 21 patients may not have been deceased at the time organ procurement was initiated. Right? So what that means is that and this is just at least twenty eight.
Speaker 1:I mean, this could be two hundred and eighty. It could be two thousand eight hundred. I mean, because this is just, again, what what they're looking at. That at least twenty eight people may not have even been dead, like, properly dead. And so what that would tell you is, well, what then led to their death?
Speaker 1:Well, their death would have been the removal of their organs. Right? Like, this is absolutely insane. And, like, what what we'll get into in the the following interview that I'll
Speaker 2:be playing for
Speaker 1:you is, showing exactly what's happening over in China. Right? Because it's it's a it's a good contrast actually to look at, like, how does this feel when we realize that our own government and our own health institutions are for whatever reason, my guess is that there's a lot of profit in this. There's a lot of NGOs that handle this, these kinda nongovernment organizations that probably get huge grants to handle the organ transplant process. How does it feel for us to to know that they're literally murdering people to then take their organs?
Speaker 1:Because I'm I'm guessing that they make a lot of money off of these organs. Actually, I know how much they make over in China because I again, I've been been studying it for quite some time, and it's I think it's a it's sometimes over it's over $1,000,000 per body of what they can make. Like, if you look at the different plate things that they can actually pull out of a body, heart, lungs, liver, cornea, you know, all kinds of different things that they're actually they're they're doing transplants with. The money they're making over there is absolutely insane. And and again, as you'll see in the interview, it's it's a state run operation.
Speaker 1:It's not, like, it's not some back alley, black market organ trade. Right? Where you wake up in a bathtub full of ice, and you got a cut in your stomach, and it's like, oh my gosh. What happened? It's like, oh, yeah.
Speaker 1:The cartels, they took your your liver or something. Right? Or they stole a kidney from you. No. This is state run.
Speaker 1:And so, now what's what's crazy, here's a different article. This article is from 2013 that I dug up. Dead New York woman wakes up during her organ harvesting surgery. Right? This is absolutely insane.
Speaker 1:Actually, what's crazy is that doctor, Toti, which you'll go in the next interview, he describes this. He describes what's happening when he when he actually was cutting open a, you know, quote, unquote, executed prisoner. And as he's cutting the guy open for organ removal, the heart is still beating. Okay? Which is just absolutely insane.
Speaker 1:So here it says, a woman from New York woke up on a surgery table to find doctors preparing to harvest her organs for donation after they mistakenly assumed she was dead. Says Colleen Burns, 41, was a patient at St. Joseph's Hospital Health Center in 2009. She had arrived at the emergency room following a drug overdose, the post standard reports, which again, you know, being in a in a coma. Right?
Speaker 1:My my brother is also in a coma. Right? It's very similar to an overdose. It puts you in the state of being in a coma. So it says in the article, it says, however, following a series of mistakes, the thought the staff thought she was dead and prepared her body for organ removal.
Speaker 1:Errors included performing enough brain scans, not testing to see if the drugs had left her body, and not providing the recommended treatment to stop the drugs from being absorbed by her stomach or intestines. Doctors also ignored a nurse's observation that showed Burns was not dead and that she was improving. The hospital said that Burns had suffered cardiac death, and her family agreed to remove her from life support and donate her organs. The day before the surgery, a nurse performed a reflex test to ensure she was nonresponsible, her toes curled, strongly suggesting she was not dead. Her nostrils also flared up before she was taken into surgery to have her organs removed.
Speaker 1:She was able to breathe independently from the respirator she was attached to, and her lips and tongue were moving, but doctors decided to go ahead with the surgery. Records show that a nurse then gave Burns an an injection of sedative. Staff only stopped the operation when Burns opened her eyes and looked at the lights in the Operating Room. Like, that's absolutely crazy that they're starting the organ removal operation, and the woman wakes up and stares, like, stares at them as they're getting ready to cut her open to remove her organs. I mean, this is absolutely sickening.
Speaker 1:Like, it's it's just sickening. And and again, this is this is why our medical system needs to be completely gutted and and and rebuilt. Like, me, it's like almost like it's beyond fixing. Like, you can even see too. It's like, at how how much, you know, you know, RFK's hands have been tied.
Speaker 1:Who knows what kind of blackmail or, like, what kind of threats he has or, you know, who knows what it is? Like, you know, we're up against like, big pharma is not just a they're not a medic medical company. It's like, if you go into the the interviews I've done with doctor David Martin, he refers him as as as, like, the world's largest global drug cartel. Right? That's what they are.
Speaker 1:It's it's a global drug cartel that is purposefully creating sick people for life through their vaccines, through their medication, and they're just making money hand over fist. They're making so much money. Not to mention all the taxpayer money, you know, all the COVID vaccines that were bought with our taxpayer money, and then sent back to us, and given back to us, and, you know, and they wanted to hide all the the real results, everything, and look what's happening in our society right now. So anyway, this is I'm to see, that RFK is focusing on this. Like, this is a big, big deal.
Speaker 1:One thing I would say, if you pull out your license and and you see, like, on your license, make sure that you're not an organ donor on there. Now this is your own choice, but this is my own personal advice. If you signed up and if your if if your light driver's license says organ donor, I'm not sure the exact, process for removing that, but get rid of it. Right? Undo that.
Speaker 1:You know? Whether you have to go back in the DMV or whatever it is, I don't I I wouldn't trust being on the organ donor list. I'm not on it personally. Like, it's again, you know, I I just I knew too much from a young age about organ harvesting over in Asia and China, and so I never joined it. I just wasn't comfortable with it.
Speaker 1:But if you are in some ways if you're on it, you might wanna get off of it because, if you're in a car accident, if you're in a coma, what we're seeing is that these what you know, again, the research I was doing is that these kinda organ procurement people, the organ harvesters, that they're just they're hovering like vultures over the people that are in coma, just waiting for that moment as soon as they can come in and get the family to say, okay. Go ahead and pull the plug and and take care of it. They're just waiting for that. So I'm not we're not gonna be jumping into, the interview with doctor Invertote and Mitchell Gerber. Now this this interview is probably four years old.
Speaker 1:It's actually when I used to have my long hair, so it's kinda slicked back. So it's Seth Man in America one point o you'll be looking at, but it's still it's it's a very, very powerful interview, and I think it's a really important interview, because as bad as things are here in America, it's a million times worse over in China. Like and that's the thing. There's a lot of people actually it's weird. There's a lot by a lot even conservatives.
Speaker 1:They're, like, praising China right now. Like, wow. Look how clean their cities are, and this is what happens when you invest in your cities. And, yeah, they've got very modern cities and everything. However, I'll take our American government every day of the week over the Chinese Communist Party, because the the fact is is they are literally systematically harvesting the organs of their own people, innocent people, political prisoners, you know, Christians, Falun Gong, Muslims.
Speaker 1:Doesn't matter who what what your belief system is. Like, I would be a dissident over there. I'd probably be a prime person. Yeah. I don't smoke.
Speaker 1:I don't drink. Yeah. Hey. Seth is great. He's probably got healthy organs.
Speaker 1:We're gonna cut them out of him as soon as we get the chance. So the next interview, it's about a little over an hour long. It is a very, very stirring interview. You know, it's it's a hard topic. So if there's young ones listening, I guess by now, you're probably already warning them and hopefully not playing the organ harvesting show for them because this is it's a serious topic, but it's a really important topic that we have to focus on.
Speaker 1:So please enjoy the interview. Doctor. Todi, why don't you tell us your story?
Speaker 3:All right. I got quite few stories to tell, but I have heard your introduction about this program. I would you said what will happen the government controls that NHS or medical system. I would like all audience to think about what happen what will happen if government controls all guns because America is heading towards that banning your pistols, your guns. That is a first step to achieve socialism.
Speaker 3:Then all Americans, you will be like us. How? Listen to us. I was born in Xinjiang, Eastern Part of Xinjiang. That is Northwest China.
Speaker 3:And I was an oncologist surgeon. And then in 1995, one day, it was a Wednesday, my chief surgeon called me and said, can you go to the theater and ask for largest pack of tools, operation tools? Then ask for two nurses and the two assistant and call for our van, then wait for me at the hospital gate next morning, 09:30. So I did. I was quite excited.
Speaker 3:As a young surgeon, I don't know what we are going to do, but I was quite excited because definitely, are going to do something unusual because we are going out of the hospital. The hospital I used to work, it was called the Central Hospital of Railway Bureau of Rimchi. So I got everything prepared, and the next morning, Wednesday morning, 09:30, at the hospital gate, our chief surgeon appeared in the car. And then the told us said, follow us. So we jumped into the van, and we started following them.
Speaker 3:And from that direction of traveling, I can say that we are traveling to the Western Mountain District. That is one of the district. And we had a branch hospital there. I thought we are going there, but halfway to the journey, we turned left again. And I got lost.
Speaker 3:I said, where are we going? And our driver, he knows. He said, this is the way the road going to the Western Mountain Execution Ground. I was scared. I said, what are we going to do there?
Speaker 3:And I I even thought, and maybe they're going to shoot me. I don't know. Anyway, we were born into that society. Just like you were born straight into the washing machine, got your brain washed, and you see that system, whatever that system was, you think that is the best system. And we have been trained from this kindergarten that no questions asked.
Speaker 3:You have to do whatever you have been told to do. No matter if you are nurse, if you are surgeon, doesn't matter. Because in China, then there's only one employer that is a state. Everybody, if you have a job, you are working for the state. There's no way you say, I'm going to fire my boss.
Speaker 3:No. You can't do that. If you do, the jail cell, prison cell will be waiting for you. So since we had been formed like that, we don't ask question. So by the time we arrived in that execution ground, our two chief surgeons were waiting behind the hill.
Speaker 3:And then he said, you guys wait here, and when you hear gunshots, you come around. And we started waiting anxiously. We couldn't help but smoking, and we don't know what will happen. Then we don't know how long time passed. We start hearing the noise from other side.
Speaker 3:People shouting and their whistles blowing and people chanting and you can hear truck engine noise, then gunshots. It wasn't like machine gun shooting. It was like many rifles shoot at the same time. Since we have been told you come around after you heard the gunshot, that means gunshot is command. So we jumped into the one and we drove in.
Speaker 3:From the left side, we can see there were more than 10 prisoners, 10 bodies lying down on the ground on the slope of the mountain. All of them, they were wearing prisoners' uniform and shaved like me. And the bullet shot from here and come out from here. So all this part is blowing away. Since we were, you know, surgeon and we got used to seeing such bloodshed, we were not scared by that.
Speaker 3:Then there was a police officer said, Go to the far right, far right, that one is yours. And I was even more scared why that one is mine. What do you mean that one is mine? Anyway, we have to do, we have to go. So when we come the far right, there was another body with civilians uniform with long hair lying down on the ground.
Speaker 3:And our chief surgeon called me and briefed me and said, Now, do as quick as you can remove liver and the two kidneys. I understood what we are going to do. From that moment, I become a robot, trained robot, or programmed robot to to do the task programmed to do.
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Speaker 3:Then it didn't take them so long. But what was different was that when I cut his skin open, I can see blood coming out. That means the heart still bumping the blood. And his body also try to struggling to resist my insertion. But he was knocked off knocked out or off.
Speaker 3:Too weak to resist. If you ask me if I I was scared or what I thought, something wrong, no. I just become a robot. And then since we were educated in a way that our country was the best country on earth, we are the happiest people on earth. Imagine just like North Korea now.
Speaker 3:So anyone who has been sentenced to death is enemy of the state. And every citizen of the country has duty to eliminate enemy of the state. You see, that is our duty, to eliminate enemy of the state. So, I didn't feel any guilty. I didn't have any feeling.
Speaker 3:Even to the opposite, I may even little happy because I had such experience and then doing such operation in the wild, in the field, outside of the hospital. Anyway, I found such an operation was is so easy than the normal operation in the theater. In the theater, it might take two, three, or four hours, but I just used thirty or forty minutes. Because when you cut these organs out, you don't mind to damage the organs next to it because the organ next to it, you don't need it. In the normal surgery, you have to protect everything, not to damage.
Speaker 3:But in this case, what you do is damage. I find it is really easy. So I handed over liver and the two kidneys, And then our chief surgeon said, okay. Now you take your team back to the hospital, and remember, nothing happened today. We know what that mean.
Speaker 3:Since that day on, none of us has ever talked about it. Until I was in London in Westminster in 2009, there was a presentation by Ethan Gutman. He was introducing the concept of organ harvesting by introducing a book called The State Organ. And he made a conclusion by saying, it is extremely difficult to have firsthand evidence. Then all my memories, which I tried to forget, has come back.
Speaker 3:I raised my hand, and I told them I said, I'm not going to ask a question, no comment, but I'm going to tell you a story. And that was the day I confessed to the world.
Speaker 1:How did that feel?
Speaker 3:That feel I cannot say I feel really relieved. Actually, I was more worried. I worried how the rest of the world going to take me. How they are going to look at me? I was surgeon.
Speaker 3:Surgeon meant to save life. What I have done is I actually caused life to stop. That man shot to the right chest so that he's knocked off, so that he will die eventually, but he will not die immediately. So that there's time for me to remove the organs. And in reality, technically, I caused his death because I removed the organ and didn't reconstruct his internal system.
Speaker 3:You see? So I was actually more worried about this, how the whole world is going to look at. Now,
Speaker 1:first off, thank you for sharing that story. My goodness. It's hard to even hear.
Speaker 3:It is.
Speaker 1:You mentioned that you were just robotic. And I think that a lot of people that grew up outside of a communist country might have a hard time understanding that. And I remember I read one of your, different articles talking about how even from childhood, you were used to seeing dead bodies. Yeah. So can you share a little bit about maybe some of the things that perhaps conditioned you growing up under the dictatorship of the Chinese Communist Party that would have desensitized you to death?
Speaker 1:Because that seems to be one of the major ways that they maintain the control of their their citizens.
Speaker 3:When I was born, and the CCP has already taken control of China before I was born, so I was born straight into that system. So whatever I learned from the school is that system. So I would say, I would rather say I have brain washed when I come to London by the civilization. My brain was washed back to the normality. But before that, my brain was empty and then that is all the thing I received.
Speaker 3:So in my mind, this violence is normal because Chinese Communist Party manifest is violent revolution. So they have to maintain violence. And then during the Cultural Revolution, every year we can see no less than three corpse, three person killed themselves. They have to kill themselves in the open field so that people will see. Why?
Speaker 3:If the person killed himself in a closed place, nobody see that, their family will be still in trouble. The authority will ask, where is he? Where are you hiding him? So they had been forced to kill themselves in the open public so that everybody knows this man is dead. Yeah.
Speaker 3:That is the system, and we have seen a lot. A lot. We it becomes normal to us.
Speaker 1:Now I have a question actually for you, Mitchell. Is this I know that you've studied this extensively. And is this something that is a more isolated event? Is it just, know, criminals? I know that when China was pressed about organ harvesting, and we're seeing this in the news a couple years back, they had mentioned that, oh, it's just the prisoners that, you know, are executed.
Speaker 1:So is it just the criminals themselves that they're executing anyway and they're making use of that? Or is this something more sinister?
Speaker 4:Well, just hearing doctor M Bertotti's testimony, and it's just a tip of the iceberg. I sat down with the honorable doctor, quite a hero in my eyes, in in the in the world's eyes, for exposing this new form of evil, Seth, that the world hasn't come to realize yet. This is a state sanctioned genocide normalized in Chinese society, concocted by the Chinese Communist Party, the Reign of Terror that has wiped out 100,000,000 people, decimated five thousand years of Chinese culture, destroyed intentionally millions of innocent girls. And I want to share something from a letter that I received from the World Organization to Investigate the Persecution of Falun Gong and others, who have been slaughtered under the Chinese Communist Party. And they shared something very poignant to what you were saying to me.
Speaker 4:Is this something that is, just isolated, or is this large scale? This is large scale, ladies and gentlemen. This is something that is new formed a new form of evil, and Emma can elaborate on that. But I just want to share. Sixty years ago when Felix Frankfurter, a US Supreme Court judge of the Jewish faith, heard that the Nazis were slaughtering Jewish people in the concentration camps, his first reaction was, I can't believe this is true.
Speaker 4:This is a supreme court US supreme court judge. American society reacted to the Holocaust. Believe the unbelievable. Back then, many Germans could not believe the massacre of Jews happened nearby. Weimar is a world famous setting in Germany.
Speaker 4:It was enriched by music of Bach, the the novels of Goth, the poems of Schiller, and the architecture of of Bachaus. It has also a notorious Nazi concentration camp, Buchenwald. There were over 50 to 60,000 Jews killed there from 1937 to 1945. When The US soldiers liberated the camp, they were completely astounded by the horrific scene they witnessed. Corpses that had not been cremated or buried were everywhere.
Speaker 4:More than 20,000 prisoners were barely alive. When the horrific truth was exposed in public, the Weimar citizens could not believe it at all. In their view, the Nazi officers who guarded the concentration camps were gentle and polite. They had refined outlooks. They appreciated art.
Speaker 4:Someone moved to tears by Beethoven music, Beethoven's music. They could not believe these people were able to carry out such heinous atrocities. One woman even accused the US military of fabricating the pictures to Villa Germany. What
Speaker 1:we
Speaker 4:are dealing with, Seth, and I've been going on this campaign or crusade to expose this for twenty one years. I started on 05/04/2001. I met up with Enver many years later, where we were on a coalition in Westminster Abbey to expose this at a child trafficking court. And the the evidence is shocking. 52 pieces of evidence by David Kilgore and David Matas and Ethan Gutman, the main investigators from Canada and America.
Speaker 4:They started the investigation in 2006 where 18 pieces of hardcore evidence was shown to prove that these allegations are confirmed through phone calls, through surgeons like doctor N. Vittorchy, through prison guards. This is run by the Chinese military. The highest ranking forms of the Communist Party from president Xi to president Hu Jintao to president Jiang Zemin in 1999. The former president of China have all been complicit in these crimes.
Speaker 4:The World Health Organization knows about this. The United Nations all about know about this. Matter of fact,
Speaker 1:I'm Mitchell, sure wanna jump in quickly about I know that recently, at a CNN town hall when Biden was asked about the Uighur, you know, basically concentration camps, and he brushed it off as being a cultural norm. I know that Trump and, especially, specifically Mike Pompeo were very focused on issues like these. But do you think that Biden and his administration are aware of this, or are they doing anything against this?
Speaker 4:They're on the bed of the Chinese Communist Party. They're aligned. So is the United Nations and the World Health Organization. I'm sure Enba can reiterate, because he's traveled to many countries with the investigators, David Kilgore and David Matas, and talked to many United Nations representatives, parliaments. So I think the sentiment is quite, quite dismal that people have chosen to align with the CCP.
Speaker 4:Biden has chosen to align with the CCP and cover this up. Same as Clinton, the same as Obama. Unfortunately Why
Speaker 1:would they do that? Why would they
Speaker 4:Because choose
Speaker 1:to act like that?
Speaker 4:I'll tell you why. Because of the money involved and the power that the CCP has over the governing bodies in this world. Look. The CCP has the largest second largest military, the largest population, now the largest economy. It's been infiltrating into every governing, intelligence agencies, multinational corporations, social media, big pharma, you name it.
Speaker 4:The Australian just released a database of 1,950,000 CCP loyalists and spies infiltrating. So they have been shutting this down and not allowing the world to know the truth. So, yes, this is this is run by the military. And what is actually going on, Seth, is hundreds and thousands of innocent Falun Gong practitioners of this ancient spiritual meditation, mind and body practice similar to yoga, house Christians, Tibetan Buddhists, Uighur Muslims have been sent by the Chinese military to state mandated hospitals, over two fifty labor camps, 36 death camps, and over 1,800 hospitals turning their doctors into murderers, cutting out the organs of these practitioners, particularly the Falun Gong, while alive, sedating them just a little bit. And as Doctor.
Speaker 4:N. Bertotti was saying, the blood is still flowing, so these people are alive, cutting out all the organs, and then selling the organs for a multibillion dollar business. So therefore, the old saying, see no evil, hear no evil, and speak no evil. So this is for money. It's run by the money run by the the Chinese military, and people are making a fortune.
Speaker 4:And that is why Biden has aligned with him himself because of the massive amount of money that's involved.
Speaker 1:Gosh. Actually, let's play a quick trailer. There's a this is a trailer for a movie called Hard to Believe that, Mitchell you shared this with me beforehand and this was very helpful for me. So let's go ahead and queue the trailer.
Speaker 2:By 2000, Falun Gong practitioners were disappearing into labor camps in mass numbers. At the same time, Chinese hospitals began promoting their organ transplant expertise.
Speaker 5:I'm David Matith, and with me is David Kilgore. We've been asked to investigate allegations that there has been harvesting of organs of Falun Gong in China. David Kilgore is a former member of parliament and former cabinet minister for Asia Pacific, and I'm a a Winnipeg lawyer doing immigration, refugee, and international human rights law in Winnipeg. And we have now done investigation, and we're producing this report. And I didn't know whether it's true or not.
Speaker 5:And so my task initially was to try to figure out a way of approaching the issue so that I could either prove it or disprove it and not just walk away and say, I don't know.
Speaker 2:The number of executions in China varied widely depending on who was counting. But Matus says no matter which number he used, the number of executions and the number of organs didn't add up.
Speaker 5:The transplant volumes increased substantially, after the persecution of Falun Gong began. And, I mean, there's a lot of other evidence, but the most likely explanation for the increase is is the Falun Gong. We pursued every investigative trail we could find. In the report, you will see that there are 18 different avenues of proof and disproof we we considered and evaluated. Our bottom line conclusion after considering everything as best we could was that the allegations are true.
Speaker 5:We believe them to be true, that this harvesting is indeed happening.
Speaker 2:Matus says what made Falun Gong organs especially attractive was the practitioner's healthy lifestyle. They do not drink or smoke. On many of the recordings of phone calls made to more than 100 Chinese hospitals, doctors assure callers that transplant organs are from healthy Falun Gong practitioners.
Speaker 1:This is shocking. So at the end of that, you see people are these recorded conversations that folks are calling and requesting specific types of organs that they want from these healthy Falun Gong. Actually, Ingram, I'm gonna ask you a question about this. What did you see happening like that? What through your your research and you uncovering these these things as well?
Speaker 1:I mean, how is it that is there some sort of database? Where do they keep these people? How many are are kept that someone can call up and almost like you're ordering meat from the butcher that you want this particular cut? How's that system work?
Speaker 4:You asking me or doctor Inver?
Speaker 1:Doctor Inver, actually. Or afterwards.
Speaker 4:Doctor Inver. No, please. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Shit. Well, I would like to start with something else if you if I'm allowed. Mitch mentioned that persecution of Jewish people. I was also wondered how such atrocity could happen in the in Germany. So I come across with this book.
Speaker 3:You see, they thought that they were free. And this book has taught me how to look at the country I come from. That is China. Now the billions of Chinese people, they think they they think they are free. They think they are the free country, and they are the democratic country.
Speaker 3:They are the most happiest people on earth. So does many Chinese doctors and the nurses. This it is impossible to describe this whole things in the short time period. I wish to I want to give you two examples. One of them is if you look into Chinese National Voluntarily Organ Donation Registration agency, the website.
Speaker 3:I did this this morning. The registered the voluntarily registered donor number is slightly over 3,000,000. What does that says? Let me give you UK as example. UK's registered donor is 24,000,000.
Speaker 3:And the 24,000,000, it is 30%, more than 30% of its population. But 3,000,000 is less than 0.2% of chain China's population. Despite on this, in China, you can have two pair of lungs in five days. How can you do that? In UK, if you want have a pair of lungs transplant patient, you have to wait for two years or three years.
Speaker 3:But in China, only five days. And that is reported by the Beijing Youth newspaper. In December 2019. Just shortly after that pandemic, and then they reported this case under the breakthrough of technology. They said, Zhejiang find a new way of treating this COVID nineteen.
Speaker 3:How? Because if your lungs is damaged, they just simply give you a pair of new one. That case, they give him a pair of new lungs, and this lung didn't work. In five days time, they got him another pair of new lungs. Can you imagine?
Speaker 3:Just think. You come to a restaurant, and then the chef asking you if you want to eat a fish. And then the chef asking which fish you want to eat, and if they will pick that one. And you will show them that one, and they'll pick that one and prepare that for you. Because human organs is not like flesh, like meat you buy, you put in the freezer, eat ten years later.
Speaker 3:No. It doesn't work like that. Human organs only can survive less than ten hours outside human body. So if you want to store the human body and keep this organs alive, you have to keep the humans alive. That is to say China is keeping enormous large number of human beings in somewhere waiting to be slaughtered.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So Go ahead.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So let me come back to that point I made about guns. Can anybody tell me how many Americans got killed by guns not during the wartime, during the peacetime? How many? I saw there was a statistic.
Speaker 3:It says less than 50,000 and over two hundred years period. Wow. Okay? 50,000. But do you know US?
Speaker 3:No. No. No. US Soviet. Soviet is only government controls the guns.
Speaker 3:Citizens, they they don't they can't they are not allowed to have guns. How many citizen got killed? Not during the wartime. It's 30,000,000. And the China, how many citizen died, killed by the government, excludes this that death in the wartime is 50,000,000.
Speaker 3:Are you ready to give up your right to survive, to become the lamp in the stable so that they will slaughter you at any time they want? So wake up, America. Don't don't give up.
Speaker 1:Oh, I I agree. I'm a strong Yeah. Proponent of the second amendment. But you would think that it seems like wouldn't you think that so many of the people in the US government that are pushing for as an example, to get rid of guns, which, yes, if you look historically across all the different countries that had genocides that were from tyrannous governments, whether it was Cambodia, Vietnam, China, Turkey with the Armenians, that gun control was always a step. Even Germany, that gun control and removing of that was always a step.
Speaker 1:So wouldn't the the people that are in charge of our country understand that and and want to protect us from that?
Speaker 3:They understood that very well. They don't want protect you. They want protect themselves who is in power, who is super rich. They want protect themselves from you. That is the the agenda.
Speaker 3:And just to that you that question, in China. Let me give you another example. In 2008, six Chinese surgeon has published an an article under one of Chinese medical journal. And during this article, it says it was about transplantation. It says the donor brought into the theater and the general anesthetic applied.
Speaker 3:This tells you the donor is alive. Because if donor is dead, you don't need anesthetic. So the donor is alive and brought into the theater. Then if this is a kidney transplantation, then I have no objection because I can sell one of my kidney and take my money and go home. But in that case, it was combined heart and the lungs transplantation.
Speaker 3:Can you imagine? If you don't think carefully, you don't pick up the problem here. The problem is one human being, they only have one set of heart and the lungs. And that that donor was alive. So they took this donor's heart and the lungs and give it to somebody else, and they didn't tell you what happened to the donor.
Speaker 3:Is isn't it creepy that they have brought that execution into the medical theater where human beings' life should be saved? And that is now what they're
Speaker 1:Gosh. It's incredible. This is it's hard to comprehend. That is
Speaker 3:published on Chinese medical journal.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 3:Can you imagine that?
Speaker 1:So, Mitchell, I have a question for you. With do the people that are getting these transplants, are they all Chinese? Are Americans traveling to China? Because I know that in America, the wait for certain organs could be three, four, or five years. So there are people around the world that are maybe thinking, gosh, China has a lot of prisoners who are executing, and I can go there and get a lung in a week?
Speaker 1:Are people traveling to China and unknowingly contributing to this?
Speaker 4:Absolutely. I think Doctor. Edinavik can shed some more light on this. But what I would like to say, backing where these organs are being sold to, we know where these organs are coming from, the Falun Gong practitioners particularly, the Uighur Muslims, House Christians, and Tibetans, the main groups. Yet where are they being sold to?
Speaker 4:Now, Enva, Doctor. Nwatoti talked about the coronavirus, how they are selling the organs back to the Chinese people. And at entransplantabuse.org, that I think was up on the screen about five, ten minutes ago, there are all the books. Now doctor Ethan Gutman has wrote a book about the slaughter, ten year investigation report about Falun Gong. He's doing he's writing another book or two on the on the the Uighur Muslims as doctor Ed Matorti was talking to us back earlier.
Speaker 4:He's in Turkey now, Ethan. David Kilgore and Matas, as you just saw in the on the clip from hard to believe documentary, has written bloody harvest and their investigative investigative reports on in transplantabuse.org. So I wanted to just follow-up on what doctor was the doctor was talking about. How, first of all, the Chinese people, there's only 3,000,000 registered. But yet, why is there only such a small amount?
Speaker 4:It's because the traditional value of ancient China took very serious to keep and remain the body intact from life to death. The violation that the CCP has done has violated ancient law. It's like ancient it's like violating the constitutional laws of the of the land. You cannot do that. It's against the constitution.
Speaker 4:It's against the the constitutional republic. It's against to take away the guns, as we were talking about, to render the people helpless, to slaughter them, as doctor was sharing. But there's a very interesting source of where these organs are coming from, as I was saying, and where they've been sold to. And the reason why they've been sold back to the Chinese people is because China has 130,000,000 hepatitis B carriers. And in addition to over half of the world's new liver cancer patients, about three thousand hundred and cases per year, for the eight million end stage liver patients, what do you think the most effective treatment is?
Speaker 4:Transplantation. So not only is the Chinese Communist Party doing business with the medical associations and rich foreign nationalists who come to China on a specified date, reducing waiting times from four to eight years to four weeks to almost nowadays. And they wanna get it down to hours because they've made a multi billion dollar business out of this. But they're selling it back to their own citizens unbeknownst to the actual population. And I remember I did a very, very intense and mind blowing interview with with with doctor Enva and professor Saddiq on on on genocidal studies, and he focuses more on the the the Uighur Muslims.
Speaker 4:And these two gentlemen, and and Enva can attest to this, were sharing about how the Chinese Communist Party have been intentionally reducing populations and turning these people into robots and forcefully lining people up outside hospitals and blood testing them in order to steal the organs. And this is not just from adult victims. These are children as well. And Doctor. Enver actually showed us the children that were trafficked in iceboxes where their organs were cut out.
Speaker 4:And yeah, it's crazy. And like I said, Seth, this hasn't been carried out by any other regime on the earth. There is a saying that many regimes, many empires, many queens and kings or dictators, killed in order to conquer. The Chinese Communist Party conquered in order to kill, And this is what's going on now just for money, for power, for control. And I think Emma could elaborate more on where these organs are sold to and who are who are buying them.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Please. Thank you, Inver.
Speaker 3:Right. I think we are facing enormous difficulties in finding out who the recipients are, But we can make a clever guess. There are just there are people with power and the people with money. Regardless who are they. Doesn't matter you are American, you are Japanese, you are British, you are Arab, doesn't matter.
Speaker 3:You pay money, the CCP will deliver programs for you. There was a rumor that it was it was rumor, but now I can tell you. A friend of mine who told me this secret information, and I couldn't reveal this, but now I can because he is dead. He passed away. He's dead in a very suspicious circumstance.
Speaker 3:He showed me a document that he didn't give it to me. He said, just Arab people or Muslim countries, they pay the money to a broker, then they will receive a letter from their own embassy from Beijing. Then they will take this letter, come to Urumqi to have organ transplantation. Why? Because that is halal organs.
Speaker 3:Yes. Wow. That is offered by Xinjiang because halal organ only means Muslims. Because if you are not Muslim, your organ is not halal. Unfortunately Wow.
Speaker 3:Such do exist.
Speaker 1:So you have wealthy Muslims around the world then that are traveling to the Xinjiang region to get specifically Muslim organs. Is that correct? And how long? Or my goodness.
Speaker 3:Yes. Wow. And there was a picture taken in in one of the airport in Kashgar. And on that picture, it says expressway for the organ transplantation. It is in on the floor.
Speaker 3:That sign is on the floor. So if you are carrying organs, you can pass through here and then pass the the control as quick as possible. Anyone saw such sign, you will understood. This where this airport located is exporting human organs. So think about it.
Speaker 3:Does this Kashgar, they have high technology that they can produce human organs in the factory? No. Only human organ only can be produced from another human being. So think again how large that traffic has to be for them to create the special pathway for you to pass quickly. And there are three pictures.
Speaker 3:One is in Kashgar. One is in Urumqi. Another one is called in Qinghai province in Xining City. And then just three airport located in the scarcely populated area of China. How that be possible?
Speaker 3:If as we see such sign in Henan province, maybe we say, okay. We understand because Henan is the most crowded province of China. But, no, we saw this two in Xinjiang, one in Shanghai. The whole population of Xinjiang, only 25,000,000. How can they produce such vast number of human organs?
Speaker 3:I I couldn't get my head around how. Only by looking at some other sources, we just make a clever guess. For example, starting in the middle of 2016, we have seen that the Chinese government carried out health check for the Uyghur people in Xinjiang. We ask a question. Why don't you do this for Han Chinese people in Xinjiang or other minorities?
Speaker 3:Why only Uyghur? They don't of course, we we can't get answer. They said it is under this health care system. We do free health care for you. But what we suspect is they are making organ database.
Speaker 3:And in 2017, they turned this into collecting human DNA. But human DNA, you can just swab your cheek and you can do it, but they're still taking blood. Why? Because they are doing this organ online database. So that makes this so easy.
Speaker 3:If you want a an organ, you just submit your own blood sample, and they will put into the database, and they will find a man in Kashgar in one of the Kashgar village is a suit for you, then this man will be arrested by police under acquisition of terrorist suspect. Then he will disappear, And nobody allowed to ask where is he. Then his organ will be
Speaker 1:It's almost as if in in Xinjiang, they're keeping basically a giant cage of people That we know that with their tracking systems and picture ID, they can locate someone's location within minutes. So basically, can find anybody instantly. And then they can make up a crime, the person disappears, and then So they're there's no reason to actually even keep them in a prison. It actually costs more money that way. They can just let them move out
Speaker 3:there Yes.
Speaker 1:Flee until they just disappear in a van.
Speaker 3:Exactly. And then now they put many Uighur people in the concentration camp that makes the job even easier. For example So
Speaker 1:this reminds me, it makes me think of a lot of the different discussions about the vaccine passports and the digital ID and tracking of those things. And I think the more I understand about what's happening in China with this, the more I get concerned over any kind of digital monitoring of health or tracking of citizens like that. I mean, do you see any of these things that could be potentially threatening the people in America or coming here?
Speaker 3:If America use Chinese technology, that is not if I think that is going to be. You're just 100% sure of it. I'm not suspecting that they are doing it. No. I'm sure they are doing it.
Speaker 3:That's just CCP.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So let's let's I wanna I wanna do a pivot into what's positive. And this has been a heavy episode, which sometimes they are. Look. You know, the world is not a land of rainbows and happiness right now.
Speaker 1:This is hard time we're going through. But what's what's being done? What has the reaction internationally been to this? Maybe actually, Mitchell, this is a good question for you because I know you've been very involved. And I also want to learn, Mitchell, more about what got you involved in the first place with this.
Speaker 4:My heart and my conscience and my duty as a human being to do the right thing. I was studying international business at the
Speaker 1:university Bravo.
Speaker 4:Yes. Yeah. I was doing international business, I was supported by my father to in one of the top 10 business schools of of of of Atlanta, Georgia. Am an American citizen, a a South African raised. My my my parents well, not my parents.
Speaker 4:My grandparents, I believe, and my great grandparents fled Nazi or Nazi or Hungary Nazi occupied Hungary and Odessa and Kiev before leaving to coming to South Africa. And I was born there. Then I was raised in The States. And one day, when I was at a festival, I came across this in Athens, Georgia at the university. I came across this Falun Gong spiritual movement.
Speaker 4:And coming from a Jewish family, I loved you know, you know, the rituals of Judaism and Christianity. I'm a you know? But I was more inclined in the mysteries of the eastern science, and I loved Bruce Lee. So I was quite fascinated by this ancient mind and body spiritual movement with these exercises. And I thought it was quite neat, and I was intrigued.
Speaker 4:I walked up, and I saw, wow. What is this? And they mentioned that this is Falun Gong, an ancient meditation group of five exercises and a philosophy of truthfulness, compassion, and tolerance that is universally accepted as in Christianity, Buddhism, Catholicism, Protestantism. So I was like, that's quite neat. But then on the other side, I saw stop the brutal persecution of Falun Gong.
Speaker 4:And I got to learn more about it, and I was so ignited by my heart to do something. So I started this campaign at 21 years old to do everything I could to expose this. And at that time, we didn't know that this organ harvesting was going on. Those are the exercises, as your viewers is watching. Those are just the exercises that bring the body of a person to incredible health.
Speaker 4:And this is why the CCP targeted this particular group that became the largest spiritual movement in China. By 1998, between seventy and one hundred million people were practicing, estimates of the Chinese government themselves. And they knew how powerful and popular the exercises were where illnesses, ailments, and injuries were just vanishing quite miraculously. It became the life force of China. And the largest amount of people, the stark contrast of ideology, just like Christianity or or, the Uighur Muslim culture, where they are good people.
Speaker 4:They believe in themselves. They believe in their families. So the the Chinese people but the CCP destroys families, dismantles the traditional values, robs people of their dignity, and kills without regard. So it completely in a stark contrast to the righteous, upright religions or moral compasses that they embody. So they targeted Falun Gong.
Speaker 4:And the third reason why they targeted Falun Gong, particularly, is because their organs were incredibly healthy. So we started to find see reports in 2016 oh, excuse me, 2006 when David Kilgore and David Matus came out to expose this, confirming the allegations that between 40,050 innocent Falun Gong petitioners at that time were harvested for the organs. Now in September, ENVA was conducting this forced organ harvesting. So between September and 2006, there were way more people that were people that were harvested. And the communist regime say, oh, it's just convicted prisoners.
Speaker 4:But yet, when you look into the system, the prison system, many of the prisoners are infected by hepatitis B. And because hepatitis B infects the liver and the pancreas, they render the organs unhealthy and toxic, and they cannot be sold to the highest bidder. Right? Any plan of of of of that happening would not allow the communist regime to make such a multibillion dollar business. So they had to resort to the prisoners of conscience.
Speaker 4:So they started to round first of all, demonize Falun Gong as some kind of terroristic cult, banned it on 07/20/1999, has spent one quarter of China's gross domestic profit for the last twenty one years invoking the secret police, the actual Chinese military, and all levels of society, economic, political, and social, mandating and declaring a war in Falun Gong just to take them to these state mandated hospitals, turn the doctors into murderers, kill them for their organs, and sell them for the most healthiest organs in the world, and make a fortune. So I guess, I think, I hope that answers your question. Yes. In little as I could say, you know? Was cut a long story short.
Speaker 1:I mean, I know that a lot of the religions have gone through persecutions over the different years, and I think that what I'm seeing and and feeling in America is that the the sites are certain to target Christians. Right? I think that that's also something understanding communism is that communism knows that God is what strengthens people against it. And so it tries to seep into the society and undermine Christianity or really any belief that gives strength against it. So what do you really think this means for Christians in America, this this happening there, and what it means for us here?
Speaker 4:You know what? I tell I think a lot of you audience, I I have a intuitive, feeling are Christians. And, yes, they have been persecuted and targeted be and same as, truth seekers and truth seekers and those of the second amendment. And this CCP, radical Marxism has infiltrated into the West. And what I would say for Christians and I actually pulled up one of my best verses.
Speaker 4:I'm not a Christian, but I definitely come from a Judaic Christian family, and I've studied the bible. And I'm intrigued by the Christian philosophy and Christian religion, which is upright and noble and embodies the principles of truthfulness, compassion, and tolerance. And that's why I've fallen gong. That's why I believe in my life when I've been dealing with a lot of ministries, and they are very empathetic to Falun Gong and understand the suffering because they know what it means to suffer. But I have an Ephesians quote which reads, pull on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes.
Speaker 4:For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world, and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Therefore, put on the fourth armor of God so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground. And after you have done everything to stand, stand firm then with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the spirit, which is the word of God.
Speaker 4:So what I will say is to truly
Speaker 1:Amen. My goodness.
Speaker 4:That's what I feel. So Thank you for sharing that. Sure. With pleasure, Seth. What I what what what and and it's truly so I encompass that because to fail to support the good in any regard, in anywhere we live, and under in in any race, religion, creed, or gender, to fail to support the good and to fail to expose evil is unacceptable.
Speaker 4:So there is why that's what I say to Christian, your Christian audience and your your audience. And why it is important, if I just may add one more thing, why it is important for everybody, whether you are in America, whether you are in Japan or Asia or Italy and are 100 miles away from this madness and this evil. Why is it important? Because imagine it was your families, your friends, and your colleagues being sent in mobile execution vans, your businesses being closed, your children being taken custody of, you've been banned completely by an evil social credit score, what would you do?
Speaker 1:Wow. Thank you for sharing that. My goodness. Inver, do you have a message for us here in America?
Speaker 3:Well, I have to admit that life will be difficult if one of your organ is failed. And we understood that it is your right to extend your life. And if you have mean to do so, yes, we cannot against that. And organ transplantation, it is very good technology. But the only question is this technology fell into whose hand?
Speaker 3:I love to see such a technology in United States, not in CCP controlled China. Because there are many people raised the question, did this donor who gave me his organ sign this involuntary donation paper? Was he willing to do so? Then CCP will produce whatever needed the document needed the signature and they are capable of. So only things I can say is we are how to say?
Speaker 3:Follower of Jesus or disciple of Jesus or we are slave after God. I don't know how to say this perfectly. But we are going to face judgment when we pass to another world. Then, for example, at least I can say, this is at least I could do. But please, when you pass to another world, don't tell the god that you have caused another life's death to extend your own life because we are equal on other world and we are equal in god's kingdom.
Speaker 3:That's all my own sin.
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