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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holhouse. So if you've been following the news, not like CNN news, but the real news and what's happening, especially what's been trending on Twitter and social media where it's not being restricted, you can see that the dam that's been holding back the information about how Hollywood and the entertainment industry and the music industry is being run, that dam is breaking. And what we're seeing now is multiple stories exposing not just pedophilia and and corruption and blackmail, but child sacrifice. People talking about what's happening at Bohemian Grove, a famous boxer coming out saying he was forced to watch children being sacrificed at Bohemian Grove.
Seth Holehouse:We're seeing a flood of information come out. And so joining us today to make sense of this and make sense of a much bigger picture of really the battle for Earth and who's really in charge and who's fighting who is my good friend, Mel Kay. So, folks, please enjoy the interview. Mel, it's always a pleasure having you on the show. Thank you so much for being here, and thank you just for doing what you're doing.
Seth Holehouse:It's great to have you.
Mel K:Well, right back at you, and it's always a pleasure and an honor to be on with you. You are one of my favorite people, and your show is absolutely one of the best. So I appreciate being here.
Seth Holehouse:Thank you. Thank you. So, as usual, there's about a billion things that we can talk about. I'm sure we'll touch on a lot of things, but the one thing that I'm seeing is that I know you've been exposing pedophilia and and the the blackmail and the child sex trafficking, and just that whole messy dark underworld for quite some time. And and having worked in Hollywood and coming out and speaking out against it, I think it was one of the things that really propelled you as a a a truth seeker and someone that's willing to put your your life on the line that to expose these dark truths.
Seth Holehouse:And what I'm seeing right now though, especially since Elon took over Twitter, and you can see things going viral that would never have been allowed to go viral before. There's a handful of different events that recently happened that to me show that the that a lot of the world is now waking up to these things that used to be only discussed in conspiracy theory circles. And we've got a handful of things that we can pull up today. One being, you know, quiet on the set. This little mini documentary series exposing a lot of the abuse at Nickelodeon.
Seth Holehouse:You've got Ryan Garcia. Right? The the boxer coming out saying, and going a lot of these Twitter tirades, which we'll talk about that, talking about Bohemian Grove, and being forced to watch Child Sacrifice, and it's pretty crazy. But I wanted to see from your perspective, having followed this for so long, what do you see happening with the narrative of this right now?
Mel K:Well, I think that what is most pushing this is the, people were popped out of denial that this is real, that this is real stuff. I talk a lot about how in the mid two thousands, what was very covert when it came to child exploitation and, the sexualization of children became a very, very overt in Hollywood itself way before it it bled into culture and into, film, TV, movies. And I think as people have watched the LGBTQ plus pushing forward, pushing the boundaries in schools in all the way from kindergarten, sometimes before the obvious discussions out there on the front lines of parents wondering and and asking and questioning and showing up and saying, this is not what we want for our children. This is not okay. The un undeniable influence of Planned Parenthood, and not just Planned Parenthood, but being in all our schools, but the pushing of the transgender drugs, a lot of them coming through that organization.
Mel K:And I think people are just really seeing this push towards normalization of something that should be not just criminal, but but shunned and taboo. I mean, we have even people that have public office like Scott Wiener in in San Francisco and Katie Porter and other people that are actually elected officials trying to make things lenient or judges giving out lenient sentences all the way up to a supreme court justice. So I think people are now, having, to deal with their own conscience and their own reality, and it's in their face. And either they can look away or they can start to pay attention. And I'm glad I have talked about Nickelodeon and what Dan Schneider for at least fifteen years.
Mel K:And I knew about that situation when I was there. And like I said, I I I had a few really hard years in LA, and I met a lot of people through recovery there, and many of them are victims as children, child actors. Most you would never know because they they it was a a unhealthy and very, sad bargain a lot of these child actors made. Very, very famous people too, went through the ringer both in music industry and in Hollywood, especially child actors. So, I'm glad it's being exposed.
Mel K:It's it's never too late, but, there are hundreds of victims. This new documentary, Quiet on the Set, is focusing on a couple, but I will tell you there are hundreds, if not thousands, and most of them many of them are not alive or succumb to, alcohol and drug addiction and suicide. It is a very, very ugly underbelly. And, when I first started doing shows long before the Mel Kay show or anything like that, it was really because I saw in my own life showing up at at places where I was invited in big director's house in in, you know, in in a Mulholland or or wherever else. And there's a lot of young kids there 15 often, and they're there in groups or not drinking and hanging out.
Mel K:And people that should know better, either not saying anything or whispering, like, where are these kids' parents? And it became pretty normal, even at clubs in LA. So, this is not new, and I'm I'm glad that it's being addressed, but it's it's well overdue.
Seth Holehouse:So there's a handful of places my mind goes, but one of the big ones is just why, like, in terms of what's behind it. Right? Is is it is it that these pedophiles that that are preying on young children just like, do they choose these careers because it gets them close? It's kinda like, you know, someone that's a professional clown. Maybe they're more likely to be a pedophile because they're they're, like, choosing a career that puts them in close contact.
Seth Holehouse:Not not to offend if I you know, we have any professional clowns in the audience. I'm not I'm not calling you out. I'm just saying that, you know, you can think of these as more creepy. So is it that, or is it is it much more aligned to some sort of power and control structure? Like, in understanding that the that Hollywood, as Breitbart talked about, Andrew Breitbart, you know, how politics is downstream from culture.
Seth Holehouse:Culture determines so much, and a lot of our culture comes out of the music industry and comes out of Hollywood. And so anybody that gain gains fame and notoriety has the ability to influence culture, which is a threat, or it's a tool for the the the deep state. And so how do you see the role of pedophilia? Why is it so common in Hollywood and in the music industry?
Mel K:Well, I think it's twofold or maybe threefold, but certainly twofold. One being that it is used for blackmail. I believe that it is it is used for blackmail on a grand scale and, not just in Hollywood, but in powerful circles all over the world. Certainly, I think both in Wall Street and DC and Hollywood as well, a. B, there is a element in in Hollywood that is is truly lives as if they are disciples of Aleister Crowley, and it is it has been very normalized to be in, types of cults and other groups, especially there are actual satanic groups, witches groups, of people that you would know, and there's a belonging.
Mel K:There's a a you need to be a part of it. And once you're a part of it, you need to like anyone that was in a fraternity or sorority, think about it on steroids, and you gotta do these kind of rituals that, you know, make you, to prove your loyalty or to prove something else. And then at the top, there are a lot of sexual deviants, quite honestly. And and, you know, at some point, you keep pushing the envelope, pushing the envelope, And, I think a lot of those people do rise to power. I also believe that a lot of what we're seeing are people that are abused themselves becoming abusers there.
Mel K:And and that does also have a hierarchy of it too of the, you know, I know what you've done. You know what I've done. You know? Let's make sure we keep it in the club. So, I mean, multiple things like that.
Mel K:And then there there really is a side of it that is, is, I I would say, a tool to and this is about children, especially, a tool to where the parents oftentimes that are pushing children to be celebrities for whatever reason of themselves, look the other way and and have also I'm not you know, there are some parents that I do think are complicit, but there is a sense of that, you know, it's not your child anymore if you've sent them to Hollywood. So, you know, just kind of deal with what you have to deal with. Another another thing that has not been talked about much in the press at all that is coming out right now is the decades long, Puff Daddy, situation that has been going on for a very long time, which I believe encompassed a lot of young actors. There was also, I think his name was Rothstein, but the guy that was, behind Backstreet Boys and NSYNC. So this is not, this is really prevalent, and it's really very scary.
Mel K:And it it was not it is not covert in LA. It it's not. And and that's the other thing. It's become accepted, and I do think that some people this is very sad. I lived it myself, but there are people that will do anything for fame, and sometimes that includes that.
Mel K:There are some very famous actors that I know were terribly abused, and then they now they're movie stars. Some of them are movie stars. So it it is disheartening to see some of those people not be on the forefront fighting this, but I do understand, a lot of it is, predators becoming predators.
Seth Holehouse:And you mentioned, of daddy, which there's a lot coming out about him right now. Like, so he it seems like, from what I'm seeing, at least, that in some ways, he was the Epstein of of the music industry, the especially the the rap industry. And I've I've heard, you know, come across multiple stories and different sources of people talking about, you know, when they get to that place, you have they have these young up and coming rap stars that
Mel K:Yep.
Seth Holehouse:They they bring in, they groom them. And when it's time for the contract, basically, they go in there, and they've got these key figures, whether it's, you know, Puff Daddy or something that, you know, big name producers that everyone knows about, that before that contract that contract is signed, it's basically like, you have to go into the backroom, you know, or you're on the producer's couch, basically. And they they sodomize them. You know, who knows what else happens, but it's it's part of them entering in. And you look at people like Lil Nas, right, who's, you know, arguably one of the most famous rappers of the past, you know, say, you know, five years or whatever, you know, era.
Seth Holehouse:You know, sure. I don't really follow him closely, but you can see that he's not just, you know, openly gay, but he's the what he's promoting, his music videos, it's it's sex with a male Satan. I mean, it's it's dark, evil stuff, and it makes me think that it's not just it's not it's not just they're looking and say, hey. Let's be edgy and trendy, and but there's there's something much deeper. I mean, you mentioned Alistair Crowley and then the Satanism.
Seth Holehouse:This is it's like there's a very, very dark force that has taken over Hollywood music industry a long time ago, and it's it's extremely evil. And it's not just evil of, like, you know, they'll they'll steal and cheat and lie, but it's evil, like, going back into, like, the biblical times of sacrificing children and and Moloch and Balak. It's it's that kind of evil that seems to be dominating.
Mel K:Yeah. It's it's selling your soul on a on a very, very real level. And I've said for years, because the whole Me Too movement was totally hijacked from the original people that really were victims, and the victims of the Me Too movement are not famous women that won Oscars, you know, but that was hijacked, run out of CAA as well. So, you know, there is a, a an idea that they really didn't want people to look at the kid children part or the men. You know, that was another thing too.
Mel K:Because to me, in my experience and I went there very young. I started in the business very young. So what I what I always believed was that the boys were in more danger than the girls. At least I a lot of young girls got abused. Don't get me wrong.
Mel K:But it was, like, it was also a level of shame and control and and when it's a boy and a boy that is not gay. Okay? So what what I'm talking about is something else. It is a control and a lifelong control because that secret is so powerful and so, and when that gets out or if it get the threat of it getting out is so scary and so controlling. A lot of the a couple people that I know, a very, very famous musician that ended up overdosing.
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Mel K:He was so terribly abused early on that and everyone knew it. You know? It was it it just it's it's very sad. But what you're saying, about the satanic side is that there is a ritual I know of only two people that have actually told me to my face, But there is a part of it that that does go back to that, Alistair Crowley sex magic. You know, there's a lot of people with the OTO tattoos, especially in the in the, rap world.
Mel K:And, there's something about that that some of these people believe that they get their power from Lucifer. I mean, that that that that god, our god, is is the opposite, and their god, Lucifer, the god of light, is requires things like, you know, stealing of souls through sex magic. I mean, it's crazy stuff to people that don't believe it, but what I am telling you is that there are people that actually do believe it, and they believe that their talent comes from that. You know? And that that's when it gets really crazy.
Mel K:And then you can trace the gurus. There was obviously, you know, lots of people along the way that have talked about it, but, you know, it's very, very hard for people to understand is and I I, you know, I I lived it myself. I know many people that did not make I'm I'm lucky to be alive, but there's I know a lot of people that did not make it out of Hollywood. It is a severe predator prey, and the higher up you get, the more the worse it gets. So when I see people that look at, you know, some of these giant actresses and actors, they don't really fully understand that there's, like, 20 people on their payroll, and everyone around them's job is to isolate them and control them.
Mel K:And, it's just a a very, it is swimming with sharks, you know, for real. And the guy's at the very top. You know, there was a time, I think it was in the late nineties, when Michael Ovitz, who created CAA and then got kicked out basically, was did an interview with Vanity Fair in the nineties, and he said that Hollywood had been taken over by the gay mafia. And everyone went nuts. And this is this is before anyone ever talked about this, and it ruined his career.
Mel K:And, I mean, this guy ran was, like, ran Hollywood. And let me tell you something. If you don't understand how long this has been going on, just look at when he did that interview in Vanity Fair and what happened to his career after to see how powerful the cover up is. Because the hardest part is the cover up side. If you do say something, the consequences are terrible, and and and they have been.
Mel K:Hopefully, now maybe that's changing. And then the other thing is, you know, most people understand that Epstein Island wasn't the only one. I think one of the big reasons I got kicked off very early on YouTube was because I kept talking about the that there not only do I know people, but that there are these people are going to get away with it because of the structure, the hierarchy there that, you know, a lot of what what happens is, like I said, it's a blackmail Ponzi scheme, basically. It's it's one after another, and then your goal your your job maybe from the people above you is to go do that to somebody else and then get it on film. And and, like, that ends up being a cycle, and then all these people are in on it, and the and the big goal is to make sure nobody breaks.
Mel K:And, I mean, it just it feeds on and feeds on. It's very, very ugly. And, you know, I just really hope that people realize that feeding that beast is not something that they have to do and and that they should be very coherent. Because I I do know from people that still work there, we're gonna have a tremendous amount of propaganda coming at us purposefully to to destroy our country even further and divide us more and encourage violence and and normalizing, you know, child abuse, sex abuse, all that on purpose as part of the destruction of our country. So, hopefully, people will start to take this seriously and not not, you know, continue to say, well, I'll still watch that, or I'll pay for that program or or watch that show, whatever.
Mel K:That's just entertainment. It's not about the people. No. It is about the people. And and we really have to start acting like, you know, I just the Oscars came up.
Mel K:It's funny. I went for years and and it was like, oh, it is Oscars time. I didn't even know Oscars. So I I think that people are getting it. But if you continue to feed the beast and and you know this, then you're participating in my opinion.
Seth Holehouse:And do you think that with, like I mentioned, these things now going viral on on Twitter, which then makes it into into the news cycle. Because then it's it's like the mainstream media is they're they're forced to cover it. Right? Like, even, like, you know, Ryan Garcia. I'll pull him up really quickly here.
Seth Holehouse:Right? So this is just obviously, this is the sporting news. It's not mainstream mainstream media, but it it probably is. I I just don't follow sports. So but when you have these things happening, and you have, like, let's say, like, Ryan Garcia, and for folks who aren't familiar, he was he's a boxer, and he went on these, like, these tirades tweeting, talking about how he was taken to Bohemian Grove as a main part of it, of his experience, but how he was forced to watch child abuse and child sacrifice.
Seth Holehouse:I mean, the the and and it was just was just too much for him, and he broke, and he came forward, and he pulls out there. When you have celebrities going viral talking about this, the mainstream media can't ignore it. Because even people that are in a little bit of a bubble, they're still hearing about it. They're seeing it on Facebook. It's it's still getting spread around.
Seth Holehouse:And so do you think that this represents a a shift in the consciousness as and the awareness of this? Because, you know, evil is most powerful when no one knows it's there. Right? When it's hidden. That's my opinion, my understanding of it is to say
Mel K:I agree.
Seth Holehouse:Evil is strongest when no one knows it's around. And though it feels like now there's just been this mass awakening, and everyone's becoming much more aware of the evil, and it feels like, wow, the evil's very powerful because you see it, but I see it as they're losing power. Like, the fact this stuff is now being spread around, and everyone's looking at it, and they're understanding it, they're losing it. So do you think that we're at a at a stage right now where this, you know, the great awakening, as we've we've all talked about in these shows, that it really is happening, but actually, it's having a significant impact on the these power structures and their ability to operate because they can no longer operate in secrecy.
Mel K:Yeah. I definitely think that. I also think people are more and more watching as people that cover up these crimes in the media end up committing these crimes and getting arrested for these crimes. And then you have to wonder, well, how did they get where they are? Like I'm saying, I do believe that a lot of this topic is about blackmail, and it's about blackmail and pop a blackmail, you know, the main abuser abusing somebody, that person abusing somebody else.
Mel K:It goes on and on, but we have watched a lot of people that have made fun of this topic. I mean, the New York Times, Daily Beast, Politico, NBC, They acted like, you know, what happened on ABC with Robach hid the story on Epstein for three years. That producer, by the way, who was involved there was also the producer on the January 6 committee. So there is also a a reward, structure involved in covering up these crimes. Everyone knows about, you know, obviously, Harvey Weinstein, a big Democratic donor at Buck.
Mel K:You know, there were there were cases out there that they couldn't hide, and yet, you know, they still ridicule. They do the old Sololinski media matters. You know, that person's crazy. That person's conspiracy theory. Until until that person ends up being arrested or or charged with a crime as well, it seems like the go to humiliators in the media when it comes to this topic end up being involved.
Mel K:Also, Jim Caviezel was somebody who came out very early on. They tried to ruin his career. The damage done to that man, I was friends with him in the first few months of him coming out and talking about some of the things that he knew firsthand was terrible. I mean, I saw I saw it firsthand, like, in up close. And, I'm watching these media, disgusting media.
Mel K:They weren't quest they weren't saying, well, is this happening? And if this is happening, oh my we need to we need to get it out there, and we need to stop it. We need to find out who the perpetrators are. We need to put them away. No.
Mel K:It was the opposite. It was like, how dare you? When those people know if I knew, they know that it's real and it's happening and it's on a grand scale and it's a blackmail and and control operation above all else, you would think that that would be, where we are. But, yes, I do think that a big light's being unshined on it and on many other things. One thing that I do see a lot of people also asking about is there have been hundreds of millions of dollars in settlements by, JPMorgan and other places in the Epstein case, which is not about teenage girls that wanna be in Victoria's Secret.
Mel K:It is also about children. And actual not not the girls that you're picturing that they whitewashed the thing with. I'm talking about very young children were very involved in that ring. And, again, people are asking, well, where are the men? Where are the women?
Mel K:Where are the people that were involved if they are admitting that they were involved in the crimes? Or Maxwell going away and there being no Johns. You know, it's it's this is where we are is, I think, not just in this realm, but in politics in Hollywood, in in, Wall Street, people are asking, why isn't anyone ever held accountable? Why are none of these criminals? And and it was amazing that Weinstein was and that he never talked because he knows the other the everyone else involved.
Mel K:So you you have to wonder. That's what I always think about the Weinstein case and then the the the whitewashed movie of it is, god, how scared Weinstein must have been to not flip or maybe he wasn't allowed. And I think also, you know, people are at a place where they wanna see accountability across the board, including in this realm, and most people can put children ahead of all else. But the people out there that mock and ridicule and destroy lives for questioning these stories, Those are the people everyone should be shining a light on, and I think they are now, and that's great.
Seth Holehouse:And one thing that I think ties into this is just the overall surveillance state because you have one of the key aspects of how this blackmail works is they get videos. Like, they and those views are probably, you know, quadruple backed up. They probably have on the cloud somewhere. They've got them stored on hard copy somewhere, but this becomes their control mechanism is information. So you look at now just how easy it is for this information to be disseminated and to go viral.
Seth Holehouse:I mean, it's like if you're say you're a politician and you get honey potted or say you know, I know China you know, the communist, the KGB, they've doing this for decades. You know, they mastered the art of using children, and you can go read about this, the history of how the KGB started using children as part of their blackmail operations. You know, the CCP, absolutely. The Mossad, Israeli Special Forces, absolutely. I mean, the the CIA, go you know, I know that you've interviewed your conference with Kathy O'Brien.
Seth Holehouse:I mean, it's Yeah. It's this is how I mean, you take a step back from it, and this is how our world currently works. It's not how the world should work, but it's it's actually how so much this world works that there's just these intricate networks and everything. And I remember, you know, one time I was at an event earlier on, a couple years back, I was at an event, you know, a patriotic event, and was talking to this guy. And this guy was very, very intelligent.
Seth Holehouse:He worked for I think it was Microsoft, but he worked really high up at Microsoft because he was he had an ability with numbers that was very hard to replicate, especially financial analysis as it related to Microsoft as a company. And he was telling me the story. This is firsthand. How he was being groomed and and and and being groomed for a very key executive position, and how at one point, he was taken out to lunch with these two, like, very high level executives. And it's a it's a nice lunch, and they start talking about pedophilia.
Seth Holehouse:Like, at this lunch, these two Microsoft executives, and he got really uncomfortable with it, and they're just kinda talking casually about it. Like, yeah, you know, like, occasionally, if you you have have a child, you know, whatever. He got really uncomfortable with it, and then he went back for it was almost like an interview luncheon type thing. He went back a second time, and they started pushing it more. And he he I think he he told them he was really uncomfortable with it, and he actually ended up leaving the company and going into exile.
Seth Holehouse:Because once he left, they started tracking him and knew where he was at. Right. Showing him they knew where he was at. So it's not just it's not just, okay, if you're Hollywood, you start off at, you know, you're in the Mickey Mouse Club, and you get groomed, and then you're, you know, you're Britney Spears, and you're Christina Aguilera, whatever it is. It's actually even, I think, these big companies, you know, Google, Microsoft.
Mel K:I think big tech is certainly you know, it's it's certainly the same thing. But what was happening to your friend or this man you met was that they were testing him to see if they could trust him.
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Mel K:You know, Roseanne and I always laugh about how, like, totally knew that we would tell because we we we knew what was going on, but there is a and this is in all the cults, especially the Hollywood cults, is there is a a evaluation process that looks like friendship or that looks like, you're invited to something or, you know, come speak at this thing. But it's not that. It is it is a psychological evaluation that you don't even know, and it's really about, can we trust them with this? And that's probably what was happening to that guy. I know it's happened to many people.
Mel K:When I was very young in LA, there was a whole thing where people first of all, to people my age as a young girl, and this is around the time when the when the Paris Hilton sex tape and the and the Kim Kardashian sex tape. And I think that was also some kind of normalization operation as well of what was happening at Britney Spears at the time, Lindsay Lohan. This that's when I was there. I was young. I was in that world.
Mel K:And I will tell you, it was like, if you are not willing to do this or that, you know, don't even bother showing up to this audition. Don't do that. And it was kinda like either you wanna you wanna make it or you don't. You know? It was just very and then these girls were being exploited, and then you'd see them turn around and and make a lot of money off of it, whether no matter how humiliating it might have been or not.
Mel K:At the time, they were normalizing it with these specific people that you were saying, well, if you want this, you know, look at so and that's on both sides. And the other thing that happens is when you go on a set, and this happens to a lot of young actresses and models, both men and women, you know, especially models. So, you know, there's like, oh, this is art or or this is art or or you signed a clause. Don't worry. We're not gonna show anything.
Mel K:Well, what you don't know is that they're keeping that footage, and they're keeping those pictures, and that will come back to haunt you. I I went to Hollywood way before the Internet, so that wasn't a thing. But now it's very, very, very dangerous. And any of those situations can and will be used against you to manipulate you going forward. There's a giant hack when I was there of people's phones and emails and and and content, and, you know, you really never know who you're dealing with.
Mel K:And I have a friend, Udels Wallace, who is doing who's behind the protect act because, you know, once your stuff is on the internet, there is almost nothing you can do. And and but that brings me to the surveillance state because the the predators, the powers that be, the I call it the parent company that runs America, the public private partnership above our government, would like to track and trace surveillance surveil all of us. Well, one of the ways that they are doing that and and allow and not allow not doing it. How they're they're getting us to be okay with it is by saying that there's proliferation of of child porn, of child sexual, exploitation, all of that on the Internet. You know?
Mel K:Of course, we know about Facebook and Instagram and all of that. But and even even X. X allows porn even against your will. You have to really, like, go in there and fight. A a woman I had on, she it was like revenge porn, and it took them weeks.
Mel K:There was child porn, and the kid that was the victim trying to get it off. It took months. So, you know, I I know all over Pornhub, there's child abuse, rape, all kinds of stuff. It's very hard once it's put on the internet, and now it can be totally manipulated. It was always manipulated when it was real, like CGI and whatever, but now it can be.
Mel K:And the powers that be, you know, the the big spying agencies in our government, NSA, you know, DHS, all these, they're saying that in order to protect children from being exploited online or child porn or that then they need to now every website has to be succumbed to having be having the ability for Apple or Microsoft or whatever to be able to scan all your videos pictures and all of that. And there's a lot of things being put in, especially in the unholy alliance between big tech majorly, meta, Google Alphabet, ex Twitter. I don't know if if Elon Musk has pulled out of this yet. And Apple, Microsoft, that they all have an agreement with DHS and with, you know, the Department of Justice, National Security Division, and and all of that. That is not that is totally skipping warrants.
Mel K:That is totally there there the government's also buying your data from data brokers, from, you know, the cars, from the the video games, from all of this. We are all fully surveilled right now. But in one of the many ways, just like the Patriot Act was proposed and passed, though unconstitutional as can be, is because they were telling us, well, there's a threat of a terrorist. So if you have nothing to hide, it's fine. Well, now because I think this is becoming mainstream, they've they're using this to get you to agree that anything that you put online, any website, any your phones, that they have free rein to be able to break in without a warrant and scan your, your content for child porn.
Mel K:You know, when it's when it's probably they already know who's who's really doing that. This is just another tool to surveil us. So, you know, there's a slippery slope there that needs to be addressed, but I do see them using the the wide acceptance that we have a very big child sex trafficking and child pornography, child exploitation problem, not just in America, but in the world, but America apparently is the worst, but that they are using that for their own means also. That is very nefarious in my opinion.
Seth Holehouse:Which is just so crazy. It's like the Hegelian dialectic just kinda exponential. Right. They they create their problem. There's a reaction to it.
Seth Holehouse:Then they bring out the solution. Whereas here, like, they are the problem, that they're a bunch of pedophiles, and they're raping young kids, and they're they're sharing porn of them, and and it's this giant black pill structure. The public finds out about it, and starts getting up in arms about it, and then they say, oh, okay. Well, now we're gonna conveniently use this to push more laws and more legislation to allow us to surveil you even more, though they're the same ones that are allowing this to happen, and they're the same ones that are actually partaking in it. I mean, it's it's it's just this this disgusting cycle of, like, they create this problem.
Seth Holehouse:There's a reaction. You think there's a solution. The solution actually makes the problem even worse, And then it just keeps I mean, it's kinda like, where do we get
Mel K:that problem? Yeah. That goes back to your original question. Because what we're also seeing, there's a bunch of PR campaigns going on right now to disclose stuff to people. I see it happening with the CIA.
Mel K:They're allowing them to expose what happened before crossfire hurricane with Brennan. They're exposing that they had twelve twelve installations since twenty two thousand and nine in Ukraine, the CIA, the CIA. So there's some kind of operation to normalize or allow or throw under the bus or we're gonna reform it or whatever is going on there. But maybe also it's this too, allowing this to go mainstream for people to talk about it, for people to be out there, for for, you know, mainstream media to pick up on it. It is what you're saying is also part of it.
Mel K:Well, we'll use that as and they know that there's a big movement. Sound of freedom came out. Of course, people started to talk about it, but then the the the, complaints about it were, well, it's the worst in America. So why we don't want people to think, well, that happens in Guatemala or that happens there, but it's being sold to Americans or in The UK or one of the Five Eyes nations. Those Five Eyes nations, are the are the worst on spying on citizens without warrants and stuff too.
Mel K:So like you said, it's it's a real, you know, you know, problem reaction solution that is is being manipulated. And, again, people have to realize the end goal of a lot of this global governance, great reset, you know, agenda twenty thirty plan is that there is absolutely zero privacy at all. So, I mean, that is the goal, especially of SDG 16. So, identity from birth to death, which includes which is a digital track and trace surveillance apparatus that is your digital ID, but digital everything on that one ID, very similar to the model that Schmidt and them helped build in in China. So then you think on that level, well, will the high level, child abusers be exempt from this?
Mel K:I would say that they're probably the ones creating it. So, you know, we really have to be very cognizant of what they are using to manipulate us and stop looking at their solutions as the solutions and start coming up with our own solutions. And one of them is sharing it and doing shows like this and not being afraid because I'll tell you what, when I started talking about this, people would rather literally do anything than acknowledge that this was real when it was in front of their faces. You know, being at somewhere in in LA at two, three in the morning and being like, you know, why are there four young boys that are, like, 12 here with this guy? You know?
Mel K:What is going on? I mean, you know and and it was very you know? I also think that we watched that whole Michael Jackson thing, and a part of me thinks that that was look over here while all of us that are, you know, pretending that we're horrified or making videos or, you know, or making documentaries or whatever, we're kinda like, okay. We took care of the pedophile. Now we can move forward.
Mel K:You know? There's just it just seems like we're continuously manipulated by, I believe, a very small group of people and and on a grand scale. And we have to start coming up with our own solutions because their solutions that they're giving us likely are to benefit them.
Seth Holehouse:And okay. Two questions. I'll ask the first one, then I'll let you answer them for the second one. You mentioned a small group of people. Right?
Seth Holehouse:That and that's to me, there's so much discussion about who are these people. And, you know, like, I did a show recently. I interviewed with Tiffany Meyer from the Epoch Times, this new documentary that she has about it's called, I think, you know, Takeover, which is about the CCP's control and influence over Hollywood. And it was interesting because it was really well received, but a lot of comments were actually saying, oh, you're pushing the CCP's psyop. It's actually the Jews, and anything but that is just a, like, a red herring and and, you know, Seth, you're just toeing the line, and you're you're part of the disinformation.
Seth Holehouse:It's like, I've studied the CCP extensively. And and, I mean yeah. Okay. You could argue that, yes, Mao got his funding through a lot of these a lot of the bankers and, you know, through Yale and China and, okay, some of the earlier things that kinda got, you know, communism started. And a lot of communism's growth came, yes, from America, from the investments from America, etcetera.
Seth Holehouse:But it it doesn't mean that they can't be Frankenstein's monster. It doesn't mean that that they can't be started by some sort of group, and they have they've grown out of control, but there's and and I think that people that they think are very black and white. It's like, no. No. No.
Seth Holehouse:It's this one group of people that control everything, and they're behind every single problem in our society. So I wanna see, though, what is your perspective on that? Because you're someone that I've talked to that you seem very well rounded in in your understanding of how these things work, and it's not so black and white. So when you say they or the small group of people, what does that look like for you?
Mel K:Well, to me, it looks like what I call I do in a lot of my presentations. I call these people out. I believe that it's a public private partnership of multinational corporation heads and what I call the international banking cartel and the Davos crew, which which here's the hard part about where we are right now, and and it is very by design. Look. I I have big problems, especially with a group called the mega group and Les Wexner, obviously, being Jeffrey Epstein's main, you know, and that he's still out there, and and Bill Clinton's never been questioned.
Mel K:These are problems I have. But that but look. Again, I I get called anti Semitic a lot, and it's like, I'm telling you the truth from history about certain things, and you have to be open to oh, because it's one thing or another. What I believe we are dealing with now, and this is just from all my work, and I my biggest thing is I follow the money, and the money goes all the way to the Bank of International Settlements. There's something wrong in in Switzerland on multiple levels, and that seems to be the tip of the iceberg.
Mel K:So that is a a totally opaque the bank of banks, all of our federal reserve banks go there from for closed door meetings where they don't you don't know who's there. There's not let out, including Jerome Powell. All the bankers from all over the world, For some reason, it has sovereign immunity and almost the exact same model that the Vatican has of being a vassal, untouchable, very dark, place. I do not understand why the rest of the world is allowing this to continue, and I think that that has a lot to do with it. When I talk about the international banking cartel, that would be the top.
Mel K:Under that would be the IMF, the World Bank, and the World Trade Organization. Something is very unholy about these groups and and and their power and who's who's wielding that power. It is not clear who wields the power at the very top of the financial banking cartel.
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Mel K:On the other side, you got the globalist organizations, all all basically started between the crown and Rockefeller, the current ones, at that's the tentacles of the UN, who all seem to be in on that. The hard part of of all of this is that I believe we are at a very unique place that is described in 1984 when when the state is being described as it is now. And in that in that quote about the state, the state the person representing the state that's explaining it to Winston is saying that it's that the Nazis and the Bolsheviks were basically amateurs and is explaining that we want power for power's sake. There is no, you know, that we're not this isn't about one somebody winning. So to me and I did study because of a screenplay I wrote twenty years ago, very much the nineteen thirties Germany, really in-depth, and I understand the thirties and forties in Germany.
Mel K:So what I believe is that we're dealing with something I call the fourth Reich, and, the hard part about nailing down who these people are is that they have no allegiance to any nation. They have no allegiance to any flag, any people, any religion. They have no allegiance to any to humanity at all itself. And, frankly, they are they meet at conferences all over the world. You can trace who goes to these conferences, be it Bilderberg or Davos or wherever else.
Mel K:And if you keep cross referencing, you're gonna see the same people happen to go to all of these and that they represent every nation, that there is not a nation or a religion or a, nationality or any of that that is running this. There are people from the Muslim Brotherhood. There are people from the CCP. There are people from that have one foot in Russia and one foot in Ukraine. There are people in North Korea.
Mel K:There are people in a our whole I call it the parent company private public partnership that has captured our government except for the unconstitutional shouldn't exist intel agency that appears to be working for them. But this is everywhere, Australia, Canada. So what I really believe has happened is that you can point to any one of these people, the CCP, the Jews, you know, The UK, the crown. I think most most most roads do lead to, London, in my opinion, but or the the city of London. But whatever the case may be, what we are dealing with now is an international, multinational, supra group of people that run that believe truly believe that they run planet Earth as basically a parent company of of the world.
Mel K:And then they have their parent that that parent company like, when I when I started young, one of my first jobs was in advertising, and I worked at this this company Ogilvy. And when I was there, this company WPP bought Ogilvy. Well, they also bought, you know, J. Walter Thompson and McCann Erickson and every other company. And so, basically, no matter if we were pitching a $50,000,000 account against the top other three agencies, at the end of the day, it was still gonna be the same parent company that that won or lost.
Mel K:And that parent company was usually in cahoots with the company of whatever we were pitching. So this is a very intricate it's a multinational public private partnership of people that consider themselves stakeholders on planet Earth. And if you start to look at it from there and then you think, okay. Well, let's map this out. There's some people that are very, very good at this out there.
Mel K:Ian Davis being one of them, Whitney Webb, another person. And once you start looking at it that way, then you realize the brilliance of not having a a one nation look or one people. What I will tell you is that the biggest thing that all of these people agree on is that America cannot exist. Okay? And that is where we really have to go.
Mel K:You can do all you want. You can call me whatever you want in the in the in, you know, the comments everywhere. I am so shadow man and so censored. I am telling you right now, when Donald Trump says they're not after me, they're after you, I'm in the way, I'm telling you this group of this this parent company of planet after America. They're after the world, and America is in the way.
Mel K:Our constitution, our bill of rights, our DNA, our our the people aren't coming here from all over the world because we're not the best country. It's the opposite, and they want to destroy this. If they can destroy America, the rest of them won't be able to stand. But I will tell you right now, the scariest part when you dig in and you see the factions that are involved. So you see the Muslim brotherhood and the international banking cartel, and then you see the, Davos crew.
Mel K:And over here, you see the CCP. And then you see North Korea is not gonna be left out. And you see, the other other groups. You realize that if they did, god forbid, if they did achieve and and and I think this is what's on the line, honestly, because I believe that both Bushes, Clinton, Obama, and Biden are all in on the global governance model. But I have to say the hell on earth that would be unleashed on the rest of the planet and the rest of humanity if America was removed from the board, And then then, you know, the Muslim brotherhood's not gonna say to the CCP, it's okay.
Mel K:You take care of it. You can be the lead. You know? The CCP is not gonna say that. The bankers are still gonna want to control everything.
Mel K:They they control everything else. So what we are dealing with is is a megalomaniac, I think godless, they are god, group of people that have created a very tight knit, you know, entry only, probably including what we were talking about in the first half of the show. I certainly think Jeffrey Epstein worked for this group and and that there's multiple other people. And the thing that scares me the most is that I believe that they are creating a blockchain track and trace surveillance worldwide control grid that all of us to participate in society, and I mean all of us, will have to be on through agenda twenty thirty and the 17 development goals. And all of this really ties together into this small I I I mean, if if I'm to build it out, you know, I really do think this is about 20,000 people that that you know, when you talk about secret society, that they're the ultimate secret society.
Mel K:And and you know what? They don't hide it. We do know who's involved in America, and nobody ever seems to go after these people. They just continue down the, well, Larry thinks here again. He doesn't like the ESG score.
Mel K:He's gonna change the name to inclusive capitalism. Well, what are you doing in Davos and CCP? And and what do you what what is your goal with America, sir? You know? I mean, it's just at this point, you know, people can keep going around the circle of it's the Jews or it's the CCP or it's the crown or whatever.
Mel K:All I know is that we're all in danger, and it really doesn't matter who it is. It matters who it isn't. And who it isn't are patriots and people out there that are trying to expose it because these are all, I think, little pieces of a bigger picture and until we realize that we actually are all on the same team. I did a show the other day with somebody, Cynthia Chung, who was talking about Martin Luther King. Because I'm I'm saying I don't think America can make it unless we get unless we unite over freedom, liberty, privacy, and transparency as a nation.
Mel K:Forget all the divisions because we are up against a very dangerous enemy that I believe I believe that the people that have are the parent company of our our country are done with America. They they are they their fortunes, their futures, their allegiance, their alliances are with Pan Am, and this this fourth Reich I'm talking about, they do not see their fortunes, their futures, their their their children, their grandchildren. They don't see the America anymore that we we see. Okay? So they're they're functioning on that level.
Mel K:I believe that Barack Obama and, Biden are both people to facilitate that final goal. Now what we are walking into with the surveillance and everything we're talking about is a place where all of the people I'm talking about, they all have a stake in in that in agenda twenty thirty surveillance model. If and when they ever if the American people walk in eyes wide open as they are right now into this because we're fighting each other and not realizing that the the stakes are America's sovereignty and and us becoming a global cog in a wheel, if we do not see that, then we are going to walk into this, and and there will be no getting out of the of this, digital gulag track and trace surveillance world that is going and let me tell you something. What I'm talking about goes all the way up to the Bank of International Settlements. It is not American.
Mel K:So when you see the NSA has an agreement with the Five Eyes nations, and and that includes the CIA and the DHS and the and the FBI and all of these groups that are you know, were were turned into beasts, especially after the Patriot Act, and you look at all the people involved, you realize that it is already crossed borders. It is already global. They also the Biden regime put in a, an executive order that led to a court, a data court, that Eric Holder and James Baker are on. They're the judges of it about exchanging personal data of people without warrants, of course, with the EU. So they have the EU already, and they have, you know, the Five Eyes nations and us, where if any one of these people say that we are domestic terrorists or we are a threat to national security or anything else, they will open up a file on you because they already have one.
Mel K:So what we really have to understand is the big picture. Stop fighting about this group or that group. I don't care if you hate them. The truth is we are all equally in danger, but that we are the we are also the answer because there are hundreds of millions, if not, you know, billions of us that are awake, and I believe that worldwide. It's just if we keep saying that it's, you know, it's the Jews or it's the the Chinese or whatever, we're missing the point.
Mel K:It's all of them.
Robert Kiyosaki:It's all
Mel K:you know? It's it's really that much it's that much bigger. And and, you know, and believe me, the Muslim Brotherhood is still playing a big part too. They they get a free pass. I don't know how.
Mel K:But, again and I believe the and and, frankly, what I believe is that happening in Ukraine, in Israel, and in and, apparently, in Taiwan and all over Africa and all and Syria, I think it's the same group, the fourth Reich, that is running all of these operations because what they believe is order out of chaos, and chaos would be the the whole world surrendering and saying enough. Just make it stop. We'll go on your blockchain. We'll give up all of our sovereignty. We will be a global governance world.
Mel K:You guys in Davos or wherever the heck you are meeting this week, fine. We're just going to live our lives, and you can watch and surveil and take all our privacy, all our property, everything you want, and just make it stop. And it and you know who makes it stop? We do. So I'm glad you asked that because, you know, if people don't understand that that's the answer, then then we really are in much worse shape than we should be.
Seth Holehouse:I agree. And, unfortunately, I know you had another interview, so I can't I can't spend about twenty minutes digging into just a small part of what you just said. What did that
Mel K:Well, I can take I can take a little bit more for you to kinda react to that because I went on my monologue, but I'm just so sick of these people fighting amongst themselves. And, you and I've talked about it so many times. Whatever you believed even three years ago, I don't really care. But I do care and I don't care if you were a degenerate gambler or you were a saint that hired 50,000 people and gave all your money to to charity. We are in a redefining time right now.
Mel K:So, you know, whatever you are doing, whatever your life has been to this day, you are living through an extraordinary time where you will have to answer someday to what you did when to when when technology and totalitarianism meshed together and showed up at the front door of this country because the door is open, and and people are walking right through it. And and I just don't know anymore how these how everyone's fighting amongst themselves, especially people that claim to be patriots attacking each other. You're so stupid. You're you're you're so dumb.
Seth Holehouse:It's crazy. And you see it too. You see there's this massive infighting. It's gotten worse and worse and worse. And now you've got the pro Trump, the anti Trump, the pro this, the anti this, the, you know, the the pro wellness company, the anti wellness company, the I mean, it's gotten so crazy.
Seth Holehouse:And it's it's the way that we, I think, used to look at it and say, gosh, look at the look at the liberals, and they're so angry. They think all the problems are the conservatives, and they don't realize it's the the global communist and how if we could all just get together and yeah, I couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree more.
Mel K:And do you think you know, the the one thing I've been thinking a lot lately as I watch CNN and MSNBC MSNBC is total intel TV. If anyone thinks that thing is not run by the CIA, they are completely out of their minds. But all of these things, even the New York Times, but the the The View, these people hate their viewers. They fill their viewers with toxic hate and vitriol, and they know that they're lying, and they're not doing anything to to help them or guide them towards empowering themselves about real problems that are really going on. And all I think is, god, NBC, Universal, ABC, Disney, they hate their audience more than they hate us.
Seth Holehouse:And they hate them.
Mel K:I I mean, it is really amazing. And and I have to tell you, it is it is starting to really like you're saying, all these groups, people have to understand they have to get rid of every group, and they have to go inside themselves, in their heart, in their mind. You know? They they they want the misinformation, disinformation, all that with Katanji Jackson. Do you think she wasn't put in there to end the constitution, folks?
Mel K:I mean, the constitution, whether you like it or hate it, you have they pulled John Stewart, one of their one of their biggest biggest mouthpieces out of the woodwork to come in going up to the election. And one of his first shows, he says that we have to destroy the constitution. It's the problem. So what you have to understand is that we, the people, really have to figure out how to stand together, across the lines for the thing that we cannot lose, which is freedom, and that is on the ticket. I don't care about the Trump Biden nonsense at this point.
Mel K:And I'm and I might I want people to really look at their senators and their senate races because those guys, the senators, are the ones that can stop these surveillance states, stop the fake fourth branch of government that's that's usurped all the others. It's the senate can do a lot. There's a big problem in the senate. So, you know, there's so much we can do, and the one thing we shouldn't be doing is is picking and choosing who the enemy is when the enemy is really much bigger than you think. But, again, much smaller as well if you stop, you know, trying to choose which side.
Mel K:There's many, many sides of it.
Seth Holehouse:Very good points there. So I'm gonna put your website. The the what what folks just experienced there is the Mel Kay show. It is the wisdom and the knowledge coming forth from you. Visit your website, the melkshow.com.
Seth Holehouse:You've got, you know, you've got, you Rumble and Podbean and all different places you can listen to podcasts and watch podcasts.
Mel K:Yeah. And, honestly, I wanna thank you so much because it's always a pleasure, and I wish we had more time. But I love checking in with you, and I'm I'm gonna have you back on my show because you do know a lot about the CCP more than most people can even possibly imagine. And it is a big part of this puzzle. But we gotta be really proactive in in being honest about where we are and and not not continuing down the path we're on, and I think you're on the forefront of doing that.
Mel K:And I do wanna say to people too, at the MelKShow.com, I've done a really heavy lifting of putting together a resource page. And what I'm telling you right now is that so much is disappearing from the Internet. Things that you I would research even a year ago are gone. Lots of websites. You have to go to them directly.
Mel K:I put a lot of things on there I call opposition playbooks. I think they are very important. The one thing to fight propaganda is to go read their own words. You can't read those opposition playbooks and not clearly understand what we are dealing with, so I put them there. Many of them are unable to be found if you Google or anything else at this point.
Mel K:So, I just really ask people, just go, look around the MelKayshow.com on the on the resource page, find what what you're passionate about, and become an expert in that. And spend your time doing that. And then go out there and tell everyone in your world that we can all be Paul Revere, and we can all redefine ourselves as leaders and heroes right now in this extraordinary time. So, thank you so much, Seth. Man in America is one of my favorite shows.
Mel K:I don't get to watch many shows, but we do watch yours, and that's because it's always, it always ends in a place where I still feel hopeful, but I do know I have a lot of work to do. So thank you so much.
Seth Holehouse:Thank you, Mel. It's a pleasure having you on. Alright, folks. I hope you enjoyed the interview. I've now got a very important about thirty minute update on the banking situation.
Seth Holehouse:So now even Jerome Powell is coming out and saying, folks, the banks are gonna start collapsing. He's talking about it. He's in line with a a massive major real estate CEO that's saying the exact same thing. So they're now speaking openly about what's coming, which what we've been warning you about. So folks, please enjoy the interview with doctor Kirk Elliott.
Seth Holehouse:Kirk, it's good to see you as usual. How's it going?
Speaker 4:It's going great. It's so good to see you too.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. There's always updates. Sometimes, you know, when we first started doing weekly shows together, I thought, gosh, is there really gonna be a a weekly thing to focus on? But I feel like we could almost do twice a week or something. We'd still have so much content because it just seems like there's everything is compounding now, and everything is speeding up, which I mean, look, this is an election year.
Seth Holehouse:There's a lot of really significant events that are unfolding, and I think that most people would agree that this isn't just a normal election year. And this is, like, in in in a lot of ways, I'd say this is the time for Hail Marys from the deep state. Because if the, you know, the the populist vote for Trump is enough to get him in and enough to overwhelm their systems and all of that, it spells a a very big loss for them. Right? So they're I think they're in desperation mode.
Seth Holehouse:And we you know, as you know, and I know the economy and finance, everything controls. It's it's like the underlying pulse of the entire world. That's why, you know, folks like Martin Armstrong can predict wars based upon just looking at financial numbers. So understanding how finance plays into what's happening this year is really important. So let's you know, last you know, one of the more recent interviews we did, we talked about March 11 with the the pullback of the emergency funding.
Seth Holehouse:We know that there as we talked about, you know, CNN saying, oh, you know, within New York Community Bank, people pulled out 7 or $8,000,000,000. Like, oh, it's not a bank run, and it just seems like there's everything is kinda boiling and that they're trying so hard to keep it, you know, keep the lid on, but they can only do that for so long. So what what are you seeing on your end over the past week or so? What are some of the big stories that you're seeing unfolding?
Speaker 4:There's so many. I mean and and you're right. Boy, we could we could almost fill up a show every single day from all the economic news that's happening right now. So the biggest story of the year financially, I think, is unfolding right underneath our nose that it hasn't really happened yet. But that's FDIC running out of money.
Speaker 4:I think we are going to have bank failures on steroids that makes Silicon Valley Bank, Credit Suisse, First Republic, when that all happened last spring, it's going to make that look like child's play. I mean, that's really what I think. This is going to be the biggest financial story of the year. And here's the reason why. So first you look at why do banks fail.
Speaker 4:They simply have more withdrawals than they have deposits. They run out of capital and the investments that they have aren't growing, Because banks invest in the same things you and I do. They invest in stocks, bonds, mutual funds, real estate companies, except on a larger scale because they're working with other people's money. So when their investments are coming down, more withdrawals and deposits, they're going to run out of capital. So this is why you had those five banks that failed back in March, April of last year.
Speaker 4:So now do we have the same thing going on now? Yep. But why did those bank failures stop? Everyone said, well, look what the Fed did. That's amazing.
Speaker 4:They stopped the bank runs. They didn't fix anything, though. They put a Band Aid on it, but there's still, for sake of illustration, a big, huge gaping wound underneath the Band Aid. They never fixed that. All they did was put a Band Aid on it by instituting the bank temp funding program, which is stimulus money to bail out failing banks to stop the bank runs.
Speaker 4:Because they know that people lose confidence in the banks, they lose confidence in the whole financial system. So that's what that did. But then peculiar, these turn of events, they expire that on March 11. It's sunset. It's done, which is, what, a week and a half ago.
Speaker 4:So now what does that mean? That means banks that are going to fail, they're going to be allowed to fail and go into FDIC receivership. It's like, why in the world would they want a bank to fail during an election year? So it's either one of two things as I kind of think about it. Number one, they realize they truly have kind of run out of money.
Speaker 4:They can't continue to print, With the emergence of the BRICS nations taking away the petrodollar, there's no built in demand for our currency. So any funding that they might need that's not being paid for by our tax paying dollars, they have to print it. And they know that if they keep printing, inflation goes up, they have to keep raising rates, and that's that's detrimental to the economy. So so either they realize they're there and they just can't simply do it, or b, they want the banks to fail. Say, Kirk, why would they want the banks to fail?
Speaker 4:Well, because they have a different agenda. They have a central bank digital currency that takes away our ability to buy and sell with whom we want to, where we want to, when we want to, and for what. Right? So that's all about people control. I don't care if you're an ultra leftist or an ultra right person.
Speaker 4:Nobody would want the ability to buy or sell taken away from them. Nobody wants spyware put on their bank account. And let's look at it this way. If Trump were the president right now, the left would be saying, I don't want him telling me what I can buy or sell. And just like people on the right are saying, I don't want Biden telling me what we can buy or sell.
Speaker 4:Doesn't matter what political persuasion you are. Nobody's going to want that. So therefore, if nobody wants it, how are they going to get us to adapt it peacefully and actually want it? When you create a crisis that's so bad, banks failing, can't feed your kids, can't pay your mortgage, can't pay your rent, can't pay your utilities, just exhaust people with bad stuff. And then they'll say, please government, fix it.
Speaker 4:Please fix it. And they'll say, yeah, we have a solution. It's called Central Bank Digital Currency. Here you go. It's not going to fix anything.
Speaker 4:But what did they just do? They want to instill something that's going to put complete people control on you. And then the government is acting like God in the sense of they want to be our protector, and they want to be our provider. That's what God is in our lives. Well, they want that.
Speaker 4:So how do you make that happen? You cut off private capital, you cut off the banking system. So people just simply do an end run around banks and go directly to the government for their survival and money. Right? So this is what I think that they want.
Speaker 4:Now, back in January of twenty three, before the bank crisis even started happening, I was looking back earlier this week and I saw, man, I was talking about FDIC in January of twenty twenty three only having 1.7% of all deposits covered. And I talked about that on numerous shows, but I was talking to David and Stacey Wider at FlyOver Conservatives, and it's like we did that show back in January of twenty three.
Seth Holehouse:So then what happened? Sorry. Just is that let's just say that there's a trillion dollars that people have sitting in the bank. Everyone thinks that, oh, they go to their local bank and it says FDIC insured. Everyone's seen that plaque, and you think, oh, okay.
Seth Holehouse:Well, up to a quarter million dollars, I'm insured. But if the whole system goes down, the FDIC would have to have a trillion dollars Yeah. Route, you know, again, simple simpleton math to insure everything. So what you're saying is that back in January of twenty three, of all of the money sitting in the banking system that they were supposed to be insuring, they only had enough funds to ensure to actually pay out on what 1.4%. Is that
Speaker 4:1.7%.
Seth Holehouse:One point seven %. Okay.
Speaker 4:Yeah. So imagine this, if one bank failed, okay, you start to whittle away at that 1.7%. If two banks fail, you keep whittling away at it. So I got to thinking, what actually happened here? We had five banks that failed, Silicon Valley, Signature Bank, Credit Suisse, First Republic, and Silvergate Bank, right?
Speaker 4:Five. So then what happened between March of last year when that happened in March of this year? Well, I looked. You go to the FDIC, you can look at their balance sheet, you see what their assets are. They now only have 0.74% covering all deposits, savings accounts, checking accounts, CDs in America.
Speaker 4:It's like what? 0.74%. So those five bank failures whittled away more than half of their assets in one year. So now if we go into bank failure mode because they just stopped the emergency funding provision, So now banks aren't going to get that to avoid FDIC receivership. They're going to go into FDIC receivership if they start to fail.
Speaker 4:That's going to whittle away the money. Now, I was reading some articles on Yahoo Finance. There is a CEO of a big real estate company, and I'm assuming probably some commercial real estate like building subdivisions, some big dog to be able to speak on at this level. He warns that 500 or more banks are going to fail or be consolidated over the next two years. Five hundred.
Speaker 4:Okay. Let's just say that he's the dumbest guy on the planet when it comes to this stuff, and only 10 banks fail, not 500. He's like so far off. Well, that's still double the amount that failed last spring. I think FDIC could go under, especially if it's 500 banks, FDIC goes out of business.
Speaker 4:But let's not take his word for it, because he's just the CEO of a real estate company. Let's go to the banker of all bankers, supposedly the smartest banker in the world. Let's go to Jerome Powell, chairman of the Federal Reserve. Right? So what did he say this week?
Speaker 4:He said there will be bank failures caused by commercial real estate losses. It's like, wait a second. He's in charge of all the banks. And now he's saying, we're going to have bank failures. He's basically saying the system that they created is failing, and it's going to fail.
Speaker 4:So he should be the biggest cheerleader for his system. And he said, well, commercial real estate's going to cause banks to go under. So therefore, you've got this real estate guy, the banker of all bankers, both all saying banks are going to fail. We took away more than half of FDIC's assets with the five regional banks that failed last year. This one is going to be bigger than that, it's going to be way more than that.
Speaker 4:And I think this is why this is the biggest story of the year, is bank failures are probably going to cause FDIC to go bankrupt. Well, now what? If you saw a bank that was failing and it hit the news, it's like, Bank X is going out of business. What are you going to do as what's it going do to your brain? You're going to think, Oh, my word, if that bank failed, what about my bank?
Speaker 4:I wonder if the money's safe in my bank. And this is why you start to have bank runs, is because everyone gets squirrely. They don't want their money to go away. They don't know how big the contagion is. And you start to get a run on banks.
Speaker 4:And it's like that scene on It's a Wonderful Life, where they go in there and it's like, sorry, we don't have any money. It's like, what? What do you mean you don't have any money? Well, we don't have any money. We were investing your money into everything that you're investing in, and it's gone.
Speaker 4:We're just hoping and praying that not everybody wants their money out at the same time. That's the nature of fractional reserve banking, is they only have to keep a certain amount on hand. And during Covid, that amount was zero. Of course, you can have bank failures if it's zero. So then just recently with Basel III, the international banking accord that they signed, they're bumping that up to 20%.
Speaker 4:So it's like, Okay, this will stop bank failures. It's like, will it? Will it? So they moved it to 20%. Let's just say you were a billion dollar bank, Seth.
Speaker 4:You're the president of a billion dollar bank, and you were used to having 0% on hand, and now you have to come up with 200,000,000 because 20% of a billion is 200,000,000. Where's that money going to come from? It's not growing on trees, right? So you have to somehow come up with 200,000,000. If you can't, you either fail go into FDIC receivership because you're out of compliance, or you get bought out by a bigger bank.
Speaker 4:So this is what's going to start happening, is because of these mechanisms that are supposed to help banks stay afloat, they're going to kill banks. But I think this is by design. So at a conference, I think it was last year, I was talking to R. F. K.
Speaker 4:Jr. Guy, his family is embroiled in controversy and conspiracy theories since the beginning of time. With his uncle and his dad being mysteriously killed. He understands conspiracies. And he said, Kirk, what we're seeing in America right now is no longer a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 4:It's just a conspiracy against us. That's what I'm telling you. The theories of yesterday or the realities of today, when these things are spoken about, they're not hiding in the shadows. They're telling us they want to usher in central bank digital currency that has the ability to cut you off from buying or selling. They're telling us all of this.
Speaker 4:It's not a conspiracy theory. They're in plain sight telling us what's going to happen. But again, nobody would want that unless the crisis is so bad that they're willing to give up their freedoms. Right? So this is where we're headed.
Speaker 4:And then yesterday, I'm watching Jerome Powell give his FOMC speech. And what did they do? They decided to pause interest rates again. No shocker to me. Even though six months ago they said, we're going to lower interest rates like six times in 2024 because we've won the war against inflation and we can lower rates now because we've done our job.
Speaker 4:I told people back then that's not going to happen. They haven't won the war on inflation at all. So therefore, you can't lower interest rates if inflation is still persisting or inflation gets worse. So what are they doing? They're not raising interest rates because they know that would actually kill the economy.
Speaker 4:They're not lowering because that would make inflation more. So they're just putting it on pause. It's like, we don't know what to do at this point. Let's just pause. So now the message is changing from we're going to have six interest rate reductions this year to then he said maybe two or three.
Speaker 4:And then they left it on the table. But this is a big but, core inflation is persisting. It's getting a lot. And we'd be open to possibly not having any interest rate reductions this year at all. It's like, Okay, they don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 4:They don't know how to fix it, is what all of this tells me, which is why he's saying banks are going to fail. And you look at this and it's like, this is complete madness, complete madness, because the system that they created is now like the dinosaurs on Jurassic Park. Create this beast, this monster, for everybody to look at and go to the park and enjoy. It's like, wow, look at these dinosaurs. And then the dinosaurs decide to escape and they start destroying their creator.
Speaker 4:This is what they've done with inflation. They can't fix the beast of their own creation. They can't fix it. It's gotten too big. It's gotten too bad.
Speaker 4:It's gotten too ugly, and it permeates every part of our lives. And now you just probably just let the system fail so you can usher in something new, and that something new is all about people control. Sadly, that's how I view the economy headed this year.
Seth Holehouse:And it's crazy because just just to put together a simple timeline, right, was we we you know, I've been talking about the bank. This is for quite some time now. So Yeah. The bank failures of last year. We had five banks.
Seth Holehouse:I think those banks were, you know, close to half a half a trillion dollars, if I remember correctly, in assets, like, you know, 500,000,000,000 or something. I think it was that. Wait. Let me see. I had it here right in front of me.
Seth Holehouse:The yeah. So the the four regional banks, including Silicon Valley Bank, had $532,000,000,000 in assets. Yeah. So, basically, we had these banks failed last year. They put in this emergency, you know, safeguard.
Seth Holehouse:It's this that kinda okay. The the dam is leaking. Shove something in the biggest hole and hope it holds out, But there's a there's a one year time limit, roughly, on that safeguard, which just came off. Okay. So but those four banks, just those four banks alone took over half of the FDIC reserves, right, to bail out these banks or not really bail out the banks, but actually to to ensure the funders.
Seth Holehouse:So I put up a picture earlier. This is a picture from this is Silicon Valley Bank. These are people waiting outside the bank as it's failing, hoping they can get their life savings. So when you and I have conversation and we talk about, you know, we talk about sorry. So when you and I have these conversations and we talk about what happens when the, you know, there there's a bank failure.
Seth Holehouse:It's like, this is what it looks like. If if I mean, you can't really see closely, but you zoom in on these these different people. Like, these are people they might have half a million dollars. They might have $10,000. Whatever it is, they might have their life savings.
Seth Holehouse:They might have their their business account, whatever it is, at that account and or within Silicon Valley Bank, and they're sitting there. I can't imagine the stress that they're experiencing, hoping that they can walk into that account and walk away with a check that represents the the money they had in that account. I mean, it's, you similar to the the scene from It's A Wonderful Life when everyone goes in all at once, and that there's that big, you know, kinda big ruckus, and they're they're just, like, they're all screaming, like, want my money out. And he's like, I can't I can't pay you all. So you have, basically with with where the situation is at now.
Seth Holehouse:It's like, okay. So we had the the emergency funding put in place that just got pulled out. In the meantime, as you mentioned, they're now saying, okay, hey, you gotta have 20%, not 0%. Okay? At the same time, you've got the the regional banks that are being warned about.
Seth Holehouse:Like, some of these smaller banks, you got Powell coming out. You have significant people, this real estate CEO. Even Powell himself coming out admitting that that this is coming, and you don't you don't have you don't have Powell coming out. You don't have Yellen coming out and saying, hey, folks, just so you know, we know that you trust the FDIC, but actually, the FDIC can only cover less than 1% of all deposits. Mean, to me, it's like that that damn that they are trying so hard, or maybe they're not trying, maybe they're intentionally, like, building it up so the whole thing collapses because it's an election year.
Seth Holehouse:I mean, that's something that what do you think about that idea that had as we head into the, you know, I what I think is the most important election in the history of this country in terms of determining whether in four years or three years, we're a communist country or the the the free United States Of America. I mean, the timing of all this is just insane. I I mean, it just it's it's baffling. It's it's all kinda compounding. It just it's teetering on this edge.
Speaker 4:It is. And so it's not just here that we're having an election year. It's like 60% of the world is having an election this year. So what do people vote on when they go to the ballot? What do they do?
Speaker 4:They're voting to change the government. That's what all elections are about. They want to change the government. So this year is no different. Are we going to change?
Speaker 4:Are we going to stay down this fateful path on the road to serfdom? I think that we'll see. But I think most of America is starting to wake up to the fact of the government overreach. And this is why the battle against Trump, for example, is so extreme. Even Christine Lagarde in Europe is saying, boy, if Trump wins, this is going to be really bad for the globalist movement.
Speaker 4:It's like, sweet. See, they know it. They know that people are waking up and this populist movement is waking up and the government overreach by these globalists has gotten so extreme, it's almost like it's exposed. And so the manipulation is exposed, the lies have been exposed. And here's what I love about that.
Speaker 4:Just like anything in life, if something is hidden, it can control you. So let's just say you're a politician, you have skeletons in the closet, right? So that can always be used against you. Another politician is going to say, Hey, I'm going to expose the skeletons in your closet unless you vote my way. And so you get that.
Speaker 4:Or if you're a Christian or whatever, it's like, okay, you've got this hidden sin. It's like, okay, once it's exposed, the one who's trying to control you no longer has power. If things are out in the open, there's no power. If the politician were to just go out and say, these are all my skeletons in my closet, that can never be used against him. It's out there in the open.
Speaker 4:And once you confess your sins, for example, well then in the Christian world, Okay, the devil no longer has a grip on you because it's all up in the open. So this is what I think is happening in the political world, is all of these things, these things that have been hidden for years, they're all becoming truth is being exposed. The lies are being exposed. Truth is overriding that. Light is casting out the darkness.
Speaker 4:People are waking up to the fact of what's been happening. This is why I think the globalist why the battle is so intense right now because the battle is no longer in the desert. The invading army is right at the gates of the city, ready to overtake it. And that's why this battle is so extreme and why it's exciting to me, because truth is going to win. I fully believe that.
Speaker 4:Fully believe that light is casting out the darkness. I'm not saying it's going to be an easy road to get there, but I think that we're getting there. And you look at everything, the price manipulation in silver over the decades, it's now being exposed and you're seeing massive movements in the price of gold and silver. You're seeing things being exposed politically and economically. The FDIC underinsured, and people realize I have to run for safety.
Speaker 4:Maybe I'm just going to get my money out of the bank. Well, that's what you should do. That would be a partial solution, not a full solution. Partial solution, get your money out of the bank. Second part of the solution, I would allocate into tangible assets like silver, because still staying in cash, well, how do you get your assets out of the bank?
Speaker 4:What are you going to do with it? So you have to do something with it. I wouldn't put it in the stock market, I wouldn't put it in the bond market right now, they're overvalued, because the stock market's a function of revenue. People don't have money right now. They're not spending.
Speaker 4:Unemployment's going up. This is another lie that's being exposed from Biden administration, is they said earlier in the week, 275,000 jobs were created. Created. Okay, this is great, right? But then they said, but unemployment went up to 3.9%.
Speaker 4:Wait a second, how do you create 275,000 jobs and unemployment goes up? Shouldn't that be the opposite? But something's wrong with that math. Or is it? No, there's nothing wrong with the math.
Speaker 4:There's wrong with how they speak it and the messaging. Because in America, the way that they measure unemployment is if you've been looking for a job for so long that you got so discouraged and you stopped looking because nobody's hiring you, they take you out of the pool. They take you out. They don't even measure you anymore. It's as if they now consider you employed because you voluntarily stopped looking for work.
Speaker 4:Does that mean you're employed? No. It means you're still unemployed. You just gave up. So that's how what we're seeing is those people are not working.
Speaker 4:They don't count them anymore. You add those to the number of people in unemployment, and everything that they're saying is multiplicatively worse than what they're saying. And so this is the economy that we're living in. And I like it that the more lies that they say, the more people distrust what they're saying. Because their their wallets are telling them, this can't be true.
Speaker 4:It's not my reality. And that's where we're headed now in this election year, and hopefully, people see the truth as it starts to cast out the lies.
Seth Holehouse:So one question I do have for you is because I agree with you in terms of trying to pull assets out of the banking system. But I'm sure you have a bank account. I have a bank account. I have a savings account. So, you know, because for a lot of us, you know, we you know, maybe you pay your mortgage through your bank.
Seth Holehouse:Maybe you have to, you know, your paycheck every month from your your employer comes into a bank account. So, you know, we have to still have bank accounts. So obviously, whatever assets you can comfortably pull out and put into, whether it's cash under the pillow, hey, that's a great step. The next step is gonna be assets that aren't gonna be tied to any particular fiat currency like the dollar, right, which is, you know, intangible assets like gold, silver, ammunition, food, water Yeah. Land, etcetera.
Seth Holehouse:But I see one question I do see that people ask a lot, which I think would be very useful to get your advice on this, is what kind of bank would you recommend people using? Right? So would you say, you know, hey. Go for one of the really big banks, like, you know, say Bank of America or Chase. Would you go for a small local bank, a medium sized bank, or say a credit union?
Seth Holehouse:Because if we have to have money within the banking system for just interacting in society, what is the I guess, what is the the least bad option of those particular options in your opinion?
Speaker 4:So good question. I wouldn't do the big banks. The big five, JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America, Citi, Wells Fargo. I mean, they have so much derivatives that they've got tens of trillions of dollars each of derivatives debt exposure. That's not safe.
Speaker 4:I also wouldn't do a small little local one off bank because I don't think they have enough capital to withstand a storm. Now, we're seeing regional bank failures, but all those regional bank failures that we're seeing are like coastal regional banks, or maybe commercial real estate, residential real estate that's causing them to hit the skids. So overall, I think credit unions are the safest. It's kind of a dangerous comment to make because I haven't looked at the books of every single credit union, right? None of them really.
Speaker 4:But the way that they're owned is they're owned by the members. So they're going to be a little bit more conservative in their approach, or else they'd have a mutiny on their hand if something went wrong because of the way that they're owned. And I think regional banks in the Midwest are probably pretty okay because they don't have the extremes in real estate valuations that you've seen on the coasts. So really, unions or medium sized regional banks, but really in the flyover states, in the center of the country. Overall, I would say that's probably good.
Speaker 4:Now, my CEO, Ashley, and I have this conversation every single day because we're a big company. We're getting millions of dollars a day coming in bank wires for people buying gold and silver. And so what do we do? Do we have that all in one bank? We can't.
Speaker 4:So we're finding regional banks here in Colorado and basically spreading it out between a bunch of different banks. I would encourage everybody to do the same. If you've got more than the FDIC limit in your banks, open up a second one, open up a third one, go to a credit union, do what you need to do. But don't have too much in cash. Now, we can't eliminate all cash.
Speaker 4:You just can't because we live in a cash world. We have to have an emergency fund. We have expenses. We have to live, right? But having too little in cash affects your peace of mind.
Speaker 4:Having too much in cash is counterproductive because you're not keeping up with inflation. But maybe three to six months of expenses in cash is good enough. And then I would allocate the rest into something that's strong, like silver that's actually growing and thriving and takes advantage of the markets. It maintains your freedom, your privacy because you're getting it out of that system into something that's tangible and real. So everybody's different, though.
Speaker 4:That's why we do free consultations so we can hear your needs, your fears, your goals and map out a strategy for success moving forward using precious metals as a hedge against your banking assets and other assets that you might have.
Seth Holehouse:That makes sense. So one thing I will say, and just as we kinda wrap up here, you and I have talked a lot about Weiss Ratings. I'll put this link in the description. This is a great place. I've even looked when I've when I've been looking for banks, this is a great place of of telling you the health of the bank.
Seth Holehouse:Obviously, says, yes. JPMorgan is is a b, you know, Citi Citibank is a b minus, because they have so many assets. Right? So that that that does give them some amount of stability, and they're not looking here at they're not they're not analyzing how likely the bank is to impose globalist agendas. Right?
Seth Holehouse:So let's just say for folks that are on here, let's just say you wanna come on here and look for just a, you know, whatever community bank. Right? You type in your bank name, and say you're in Longview, Texas, or say you're in Lexington, Tennessee, and there's a local community bank. Well, you can see it's a d plus. So you can find your bank on here.
Seth Holehouse:It shows you the total deposits, shows you the net income, the capital, the assets, return on assets. So it this has a whole analysis on it. So this is something I would definitely recommend for people. This has been really helpful for me. If you're gonna say, hey, Is the local credit union safe?
Seth Holehouse:Well, you you go find your your your local credit union. Say, you're banking with the Union Fidelity Federal Credit Union in Houston, Texas. Looks pretty healthy. Right? You know, it's a b.
Seth Holehouse:So that's just something I would recommend. And then finally, if folks do want to move and reallocate into precious metals, we've got a link set up, Gold With Seth. You come onto here. Takes you to the website with with Kirk, who I I trust infinitely, you know, for for a lot of different reasons. A little form here that folks can fill out to set up a a free consultation, or they can give you a call.
Seth Holehouse:(720) 605-3900. And I know that, you know, you guys can walk them through any and every question. It's free that, you know, whether they say, hey. What about this one retirement account I have? How can I avoid taxes doing this?
Seth Holehouse:You know, should I store it at home? Should I store any question at all about, you know, should I buy 10 ounce bars or one ounce, you know, rounds? Whatever it is, I know that your specialists are an extension of your knowledge, and they will help people. So all those links are gonna be in the description. Kirk, thank you again.
Seth Holehouse:It's it's always a pleasure speaking with you. Any final closing comments for people as we sign off?
Speaker 4:No. Just don't operate out of fear. Right? Just operate out of wisdom, sound mind. This makes sense.
Speaker 4:Right? Don't don't Fear will cause you to make a wrong decision to put your head in the sand and do nothing. But listen to what Seth and I were talking about today. That's just wisdom. It's wisdom to get out of something that's coming down as soon as you can, get into something that's going up as soon as you can.
Speaker 4:That's how you can maximize your return while minimizing your risk. So just take that leap of faith and give us a call, and we'll walk you through it. And either you can say, yeah, that makes sense, or no, I don't want to do it. It's fine. Our goal is to help you come to a decision, whatever it is, to help you protect and preserve and start to minimize that financial anxiety that you have.
Seth Holehouse:Perfect. Kirk, thank you again. I'll see you next week.
Speaker 4:My pleasure.