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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. As we witness what's happening in the world around us, we're seeing a lot of things that are pretty scary. And I'd say that the number one thing that concerns me is the development of AI and the technology that could be used in conjunction with AI to control us, the technocratic system, and not the digital prison, like, that you might think of in terms of you looking at China, the social credit scores, and it's all part of it. But the much deeper and much more frightening aspect of that is the nanotech that they are putting into our bodies through vaccines, through aerosolized sprays, through mosquitoes, and much more.
Speaker 1:But then if you break down this plan and where it leads to, you can't look at it without really diving into the battle of good versus evil and the fact that they're trying to use these AI systems and this technology to bypass our own free will, which is God given. And if you look at it from that lens, it's frightening, but it also gives you a lot of hope. And so joining me today is my good friend, Todd Callender, and we'll be talking about some of the pathogens, some of the medical aspect of what's happening, but also the bigger picture of the development of AI, and why both of us actually believe that this entire system they're building is going to fail. And we've got it's not just some theories either. It's just we have some hard evidence that we're looking at and indicators that show that this technocratic AI one world system that's being built is destined to fail.
Speaker 1:So please enjoy this interview with Todd Callender. Mister Todd Callender, it's always a pleasure to have you on the show, and I'm just I'm I'm looking forward to talking with you. It's been too long, so thank you for being here.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Too long indeed. It's really my honor, and I really mean that. I I so enjoy your company, and the cool part is we get to let other people listen in. So thanks for having me.
Speaker 1:And it's funny. It's a cool part because I feel like that if you and I were sitting around a campfire just talking, that if we recorded it, it wouldn't be much different than the conversations we have here because neither of us are putting on a show. We're just talking about what's on our minds, where we think things are going, what's concerning us, where we find hope, and and people get to sit in and sit in and, listen to that, which is it's great. It's actually it's a pretty cool thing because some of our interviews, gosh, some of our interviews have, I think, gotten 500,000 plus views and downloads. And, I think some even maybe in the into the millions perhaps.
Speaker 1:And it's just a really special opportunity to be able to have a conversation that, for some reason other people around the world, seem to be Yeah. They they find it useful, a a worthy part of their time to listen to us, which is an honor. It's it's it really is an honor to have this this place. So
Speaker 2:Yeah. And I I would add to that too. You know, there's a I believe in a connected consciousness. You know, when you're spending time with your wife, you don't have to ask if she's upset. You know she's upset.
Speaker 2:But it's not just that. There's there's a shared thinking that happens, and you sometimes say things that just resonate with me. And when I hear you say it, I'm like, yeah, was thinking that, but not in those words. And so I think that's also part of it. There's a group, a community of people that are thinking the same thing broadly as we are.
Speaker 2:Maybe just haven't reduced it to writing or had a conversation about it, but I think that's the appeal of all this, is that you've got the intestinal fortitude to actually say what other people are thinking, Seth.
Speaker 1:Which is true. It's got me in trouble a lot, but it's also got me to where I am.
Speaker 2:I love it.
Speaker 1:So we're gonna hit on a couple of different topics, which I'm I'm really looking forward to. We're gonna look into kind of biotech and the the poisoning of humanity through different vectors, which is an ongoing story. But then I also want to spend some time digging into AI and technocracy and not not digging into here's how they're going to enslave us. Here's the system. Here's the prison they're building.
Speaker 1:But I think also, perhaps more importantly, focusing on why we both believe that system will fail, which I think is a really important point. But first, let's just let's kinda hit on just the the biological and health aspects. I know that you've recently recovered from what I would consider, may incorrect me if I'm wrong, but a biological attack on you. And so I'll let you start there, and we can kinda just see where that takes us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sure. Thank you. And, I'm happy to share because I think it's an ever present threat. I ended up getting what was diagnosed as dengue fever. It's a viral hemorrhagic fever, not too unlike Marbury, Ebola, Zika, you know, all of those things which were man made by the way.
Speaker 2:We have their formulas, but yeah, I'm the only guy in the entire country that got this, but it manifested itself with a lot of different properties that led some of the advising doctors to conclude this was obviously pathogenic designed that way but some of those ingredients what they call causative agents they manifest in very particular ways. In this particular case there were symptomology relating to Venezuelan equine encephalitis, leprosy for God's sake, and then the regular dengue fever stuff. They call it the bone crushing disease and it's horrible. My point being this, the rollout of the mRNA, the synthetic DNA, synthetic RNA shots, people thanks to you in no small part are going I don't want your shots. I'm not putting anything for it in my body.
Speaker 2:So as you see the syringe and needles failing, people are repulsed by that now. What has happened and we've tracked it all back and I'm sharing evidence with you that in place of a needle in a syringe what they did is they introduced the snout of a mosquito. So believe it or not, we actually found out that Bill Gates and his crew have been creating genetically modified mosquitoes for some years and releasing them all over the place. One of the things that I sent to you showed that in the area where he has a factory in Brazil, this is supposed to stop dengue fever. Instead it created a four hundred percent increase in dengue fever and I can tell you from this disease had I not talked to some old medicine docs, one in the military in particular, I wouldn't be talking you now because this was this was absolutely deadly and people are dying of it.
Speaker 2:But what I want people to understand is that this is a different syringe. It's a different needle and this one's flying around and it's not confined to just mosquitoes. It's biting insects, biting rats, the soldiers, the Russian soldiers and Don Bass are reporting the same symptomology as I had. There's no mosquitoes around, but they have rat fever. My point is that again, the attacks are not yet over Seth.
Speaker 2:The mandate is to either eradicate or transform humanity into something else. Either way, we're being made extinct either by death or by transformation. And here we go. We look at the causative agents in this are the exact same ones that you find in the shots, and these causative agents, as strange as that sounds, when they've done their job in your body they become general AI agents. Effectively they morph into becoming tools of artificial intelligence, goes back to some of the other conversations we had that you know our bodies are being adapted and adjusted by virtue of these ingredients, Cesium 137 being one of them, into becoming tools, cloud computing machines, batteries, power sources, and now it's been integrated to the point where, you know, the Google Mesh network has hooked people into it.
Speaker 2:Hospitals now monitor you remotely through an iPad. There's no wires attached. They know what's going on in your body. All of this is the exact same thing. It's the same attack on humanity, and this is just a new vector, and I happen to be so dis disfortunate as to suffer it.
Speaker 1:And so with your symptoms, and you don't have to go into details of it, but because I remember actually early on when maybe you're a week or so in this, we had a meeting and we had to end early because you just weren't feeling well. So, you you hear dengue fever and it's easy to think, Oh, it's just like a bad fever, right? Maybe you got fever. No. But what was it that you were experiencing?
Speaker 1:What was the duration of this?
Speaker 2:Three months. Three months. Yeah. It's horrible. And I can tell you for the first month, I could barely move.
Speaker 2:I lost feeling in my body from my waist down until midnight every night. And then with the flick of the switch, the bone crushing part of it came to fruition and you just sit there and have to take the pain till six or 06:30 in the morning and then the bone crushing part turned off and according to Doctor. Rimalebo she said yeah that's EMF it's obviously responding to an EMF signal. I believe that she's right because it was midnight on the dot every night. You're in pain all night long, you can't sleep.
Speaker 2:So anyway, that was the symptomology aside from viral hemorrhagic fevers, means you bleed out of your orifices. And the worst part about it is that the conventional treatment is they give you Panadol for pain. That's it. You don't get anything else and thank God I didn't listen to the regular docs and I hit this with everything we had. Chlorine dioxide, ivermectin eventually made Bendazole saved the day and I found that to be especially interesting.
Speaker 2:One of our military docs was able to source it for me, had to come from a compounding pharmacy. Why Pfizer bought the patent? Apparently years ago you can't find mebendazole and that within an hour or two changed my life and started getting rid of this disease. So the point being that this looks like it's another setup, right? They gave you the disease, the only cure undoubtedly is their dengue fever vaccine, which I know exists.
Speaker 2:Of course. Marburg vaccine. All of these treatments exist when there is an existing cure, and I can attest to that personally, but that cure is unavailable. Different than they took ivermectin off the shelves. Hydroxychloroquine was taken off the shelves.
Speaker 2:So it looks to me like this is the next setup and you find that there's exploding rate of chicken gungy and, Zika and all these other viral hemorrhagic fevers. Ethiopia now has a Marburg outbreak. Right? So the attacks aren't over. So that's the bad news.
Speaker 2:The good news is that there are things that you can do, and you don't have to listen to go take your mebendazole. I'm sorry. Go take your Panadol and die. You can now actually, you know, figure out how to solve this problem. Thank god.
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Speaker 1:Preserve its power. Do you think in terms of how this you mentioned mosquitoes, right? And and kind of instead of having a syringe, you just got a little bug thing, right? And I know that we, you know, we talked about, the Brazil study, which I see I saw it before actually, the big release. Is it Oxitec, right?
Speaker 1:Is that the I think actually I think I might have the link for it.
Speaker 2:The amazing part, let me just add to this. These mosquitoes are emergency use authorized, no different than the COVID shots. Why would you need to get a mosquito license? So that tells you that this is genetically modified, it's loaded with pathogens because they actually had to get it used as a medical device, EUA, Otherwise, mosquitoes are the invention of God. You can't patent those.
Speaker 2:You don't license those. So here we are. You know, this is a medical device, as they call it.
Speaker 1:And what about, I wanna pull up the this u is it I think it's a UN program. Right? The Yeah. World Musculoskeletal program. So well, first off, I'll highlight.
Speaker 1:This is this is one of the creepiest images I think I've I've seen in a while. Like, this is what a strange image. Of course, we know that they're always they're always putting in the symbolism, and they're they're layering these things in. But you look at this, the World Mosquito Program, which I'd like to have you help kind of define what this is and what it's But even looking at the main image on their website of this girl wearing a creepy looking mosquito mask, I think that's what it is. Right?
Speaker 1:She's got a mosquito mask, and she's kind of let's zoom out there, she's running from this strange reminds me of the, from the the the Pooh movie that came out in the seventies of the heffalumps and the woozles. There's it's kind of like weird trippy scene in it, but Trippy. It's just creepy. But so what is this? So what what is the world mosquito program?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's another fraud. So no different than we had the COVID fraud. They took flu and turned it into something different. The same thing here. So the story goes that there's this horrible thing called dengue fever and it's mosquito borne and all of that is true.
Speaker 2:However, Bill Gates and his team, WHO Gates, the usual suspects said we're going to genetically modify mosquitoes, male mosquitoes such that when they mate with the females they'll make the females incapable of reproducing. So that's the idea is that somehow that we're going to get rid of dengue by killing off all the female mosquitoes, mosquito female mosquitoes the ones that bite and pass disease. So we hear. However, everywhere that they have built one of these factories and are releasing billions a day of these mosquitoes, the dengue fever rate goes up by four hundred percent or more. So it's obviously not eradicating mosquitoes, it's obviously not eradicating dengue fever, it's just another pretext.
Speaker 2:If you can imagine Seth, they have an air wing, they have an air force, the World Mosquito Program, you can look it up for yourself. We noticed this because I was looking on ForeFlight and I'm a pilot and I was looking at this aircraft flying around the Florida Keys and you look at the owner you click on it and say holy cow that's the World Mosquito Program and there were two more of them on other parts of their mosquitoes all over the Florida Keys but you can look it up on flight tracker things of that nature. They have their own freaking Air Force deploying genetically modified mosquito drones that are actually licensed by the FDA. If you can imagine this, no different than the EUA shots they passed around to the world in the first instance. It's another means of doing the exact same job using a Synbio needle and syringe.
Speaker 2:That's the only difference.
Speaker 1:By this point, it's like there's nothing that will surprise you. Nothing. And I think a lot of what we've talked about seemed, maybe two or three years ago, these were more fringe ideas, but now you look at them and they're not fringe anymore. Like, people are seeing them and realizing them. And, I mean, even Tucker Carlson has Dane Wigginton on his on his show talking about chemtrails.
Speaker 1:And, like, I remember I had Dane Wigginton on probably four years ago. And at that point, he was someone that, know, had had very little public appearances aside from podcasts like my own. One thing that you mentioned, though, is that you mentioned the leave behind technology and how it ties into AI. And this is something that I think really needs more attention brought to it because if you look at the vaccines, which I think the vaccines were a payload of a lot of different things, but I definitely think it was a technology delivery platform. And if you look at then whether it's HARP or the five gs network and all the patents, many of which that we have looked at and the, you know, the W band, you know, the wireless body of network or is that what it is?
Speaker 1:Wireless body area network. Area network, right? It kind of explain a little more what you're referring to with this kind of leave behind technology that was there.
Speaker 2:Well, sure. So we being our research team, as you know, we've got a full time team that does this in support of public interest litigation because we actually file lawsuits to try and stop this stuff. The first landmark case was against the DOD that really led us down this trail. Was before the shots came out, we had discovered that the military had done their own studies using these vaccines and the result of that clinical trial take this into account, it'll blow your mind 44,000 service members and their families, it's important to note, and their families were participants in this clinical trial. 178 people out of 44,000 finished it.
Speaker 2:There were 30,000 their reports filed that were buried by the Defense Health Agency. This is in advance of the order for everybody to take shots, and by the way in their own clinical studies there were twelve ninety one new diseases caused by the shots. Twelve ninety one new diseases the participants went home with. Twelve hundred deaths were buried, eighty two percent spontaneous abortion rate. The deaths included, if you can imagine newborns getting COVID shots.
Speaker 2:This was a year before the order was issued. What I'm trying to say to you is that they knew the side effects, they knew all of this a year before they said, hey, you have to take this stuff. So it started me down this trail because in that report they made reference to something called an ePCR device. It's an in touch eDiary ePCR device. What they were doing was using low energy Bluetooth, what we now call wearables.
Speaker 2:Bobby Kennedy was up there talking, everybody needs a wearable, your Fitbit, your phone. They were using a program in these wearables to transmit real time changes in people's bodies, and otherwise, to somebody in Israel who laundered the data, sent the data back to the DOD, the FDA and Pfizer and said safe and effective. They buried all those results. The point being in there we also found Cesium-one 137, this radioactive material they make nuclear weapons with. Why?
Speaker 2:Because as you read through literature, you come to find is that it's a genetic modification of your body, not just to change you into a new species so they can own you, but it's for the purpose of harnessing you and integrating your body into the AI matrix. So they bring AI into whole of government. Those computers are now networked into people. How do I know it? Again, I've got a whistleblower.
Speaker 2:She is a network engineer. Her job is to access people's wireless body area networks and integrate them into the hospital computers. She's been doing this for years now. The technology exists, it's wireless and what I'm saying to you is the components in these shots whether delivered by mosquito or delivered by syringe is immaterial. It's the exact same chemical compounds and most importantly something called causative agents that change your body around, they mutate it into a tool to be used for data storage, cloud computing and power supply.
Speaker 2:And then we demonstrated to you some time ago there was actually a company that was harnessing people's biorhythms. They had already used 1,400,000,000,000 heartbeats to mine cryptocurrency. Where did I see that before? Oh yeah, the Bill Gates patent WIPO-twenty Twenty-six606. The patent was awarded in 2020 before all this unfolded.
Speaker 2:The point I'm trying to make here is with the leave behind technology was already installed and now for those that they missed, there are mosquito drones or rat drones or whatever you want to call them that are being delivered, are programmed to deliver these things and when you start to understand the integration, Professor Giordano from Georgetown University is talking about ten years ago, when the nanobots are inside the brain because they do, they pass the blood brain barrier, biodistribution as a whole body, they have the ability to change the way people think, even on an ad hoc individual basis. You think the thoughts are your own, but they're not. So how would you distinguish where people have relationships with AI? Ladies have boyfriends, they name their AI boyfriend. How do you distinguish that any different from a Synbio person?
Speaker 2:It's just taking a host body and the scary part is that this is here, this is now, this is not some future, this is not speculation. We have the evidence. You have a lot of it. We've given it over your time. But now we have to contend with this.
Speaker 2:And I don't see anybody, Seth, doing anything much about it in government or otherwise.
Speaker 1:Oh, there's also, I saw recently a woman in Japan that married her AI avatar. She created this AI man, and she actually had a wedding and she married him, which is I mean, not only was it weird, but it just it's frightening, actually, because it's, again, it's the merger of man and machine. But actually, there's something I wanted to I was just kind of looking through, I found this. I had saved this, I wanted to talk to you about it. I'm not sure if you probably saw this, but this is from 7Cs over on Twitter.
Speaker 1:He's got a lot of good research. He says MIT has developed bioelectronic devices that after IV injection are trafficked through the circulatory system and implant autonomously in brain regions of inflammation. He says they also demonstrate that they enable wirelessly controlled focal stimulation of deep brain regions such as ventralateral thalamic nucleus in the rodent brain, providing a non surgical brain implant for focal neuromodulation, right? Neuromodulation is control the brain, right? Control the nervous system.
Speaker 1:Yeah. That takes advantage of immune cells natural trafficking of sites inflammation. Have given electronics that circulate through the vasculature the name, circulatronics. And so, I mean, is as much as people say, oh, this is some weird conspiracy, it's like, no. This is
Speaker 2:Oh, it's a conspiracy. It's just not a theory.
Speaker 1:Well, exactly. There you go. Right? So basically, so it says the realization of the circulatronics brain stimulators requires the development of wireless free floating electronic devices that are miniaturized to sit to fit inside of the vasculature, the circulation of these devices without being eliminated from the bloodstream, capabilities in the recognition of and self implementation in desired brain regions. So there's some yeah, it's kind of cyborgs, right?
Speaker 1:So then here's here's literally let's see. Pull up
Speaker 2:the Bio. That's what that is. Synthetic biology.
Speaker 1:So this is here's the actual MIT news press release about this is from about a year ago. Wearable devices for cells says by snugly wrapping around neurons these devices could help scientists probe subcellular regions of the brain and might even help restore some brain function. So I mean this is exactly what you're talking about. Says these battery free subcellular devices made of a soft polymer are designed to gently wrap around different parts of neurons such as axons and dendrites without damaging the cells upon wireless accutation with light. By snugly wrapping around wrapping neuronal processes, they could be used to measure or modulate a neuron's electrical or metabolic activity at a subcellular level.
Speaker 1:So it's like this, and again, this is just what they're telling us. So it's like, okay. Well, if MIT is publishing this publicly, what's going on behind the scenes? Because we know that these schools, MIT, you know, a lot of the the large schools, they're just they're just a way of the government and the military industrial complex to do their research and develop weapons and weapons technology in a way that can't be traced back to them, you know, through grants. And it's a way that they've hidden themselves from actually developing these things that you would never want the DOD developing, but they do it through research and everything through these schools that are funded by Epstein and Wexner and all these mysterious people that just it's I mean, here it is.
Speaker 1:Right?
Speaker 2:Here it is. Yeah, it is. And what that also makes reference to is something called optogenetics. Doctor. Lee Merritt, a good friend of mine, she is the leader in understanding this.
Speaker 2:But this light frequencies and one of the other things we came to understand in studying the effect of Cesium-one 137 on a body Cesium 137 by the way was a listed ingredient in the shots. Not only that but we found it in the tests that we did of people that got the shots. But one of the things it does is it takes frequencies in the five gs range and it amplifies them into the six gs range. That's taking gigahertz and transferring them into terahertz. Terahertz is the light range.
Speaker 2:So when you talk about these things now interacting with light, we actually found there's a glycoprotein called M Cheri and it has the ability to turn your heart on and off when it's introduced to a certain frequency range of light. Of course it is, but this is called optogenetics and that's all part of the plan to integrate our bodies to be usable as machines. Our government doesn't hide from this anymore. They actually call it what it is. There's a division of HHS called SynBio, stands for synthetic biology, and this is a whole of government approach.
Speaker 2:It's been fully funded. When you look through the documents where they integrate all of this into the government, it's 20 different agencies involved. It's a whole of government approach. So now you understand that this isn't just some one off thing. This wasn't just some mistake.
Speaker 2:This has been planned for a very long time and it is global in every respect. The question I have for you Seth is what are we going to do about it? And I have some ideas, but it's here. This is not speculation. On that note, I want people to understand something here.
Speaker 2:A conspiracy is a legal term. It's a criminal law term. It's a crime. It's a felony under federal law. It is an agreement between two or more people to plan a crime in one step and furtherance.
Speaker 2:That's the definition. So when people run around saying it's a conspiracy, probably it is. A conspiracy theory is something called probable cause. That's what cops use to arrest people. So it's easy to attach this label and say, oh, well, we're not gonna listen to that anymore because it was labeled this.
Speaker 2:Well, think for yourselves a little bit. Why where did that label come from? How and why? It's because people are planning a criminal enterprise and taking one step in furtherance, thus a conspiracy. It's an appropriate name.
Speaker 2:I just want people to understand its real use.
Speaker 1:And so I think that it's really important when discussing all these different aspects of what's happening, and it seems frightening, which it is. But I think it's really important to take that kind of 10 or a 100,000 foot view of, okay, what is the endgame of this? And I'll I'll kinda I'll I'll throw out my kind of theory, but I wanna hear your thoughts as well. Since the dawn of time, I think there's always been good and evil on this earth. Right?
Speaker 1:We're aware of that. The the serpent in the garden. It just since the beginning of man, there's been evil forces that want to control. Now evil controls through slavery, through, you know, manipulation through fear and mind control and all these things. That's how evil can controls.
Speaker 1:You look at, you know, nations that have been swallowed up by communism. Right? It's it's the same thing. You know, through propaganda, information control, brainwashing, you know, and that this has really been it's it's kind of been the end goal if if you look and you research deep enough and not that deep, actually, to get arrive at these understandings that there has been a long kind of played out conspiracy of powerful, evil people,
Speaker 2:which
Speaker 1:I think many are not even probably human. They're, you know, they're probably demons and incarnate and who knows what else. Yeah. That have wanted to enslave mankind, as a whole, right, to create some sort of centralized, you know, new world order, one world government, which, know, obviously, we're familiar with these terms. But I think that they realized that they would only be able to do that through technology.
Speaker 1:Now I think it's easy for people to look at the the technocratic grid. Like, look at, you know, China, the social credit system. And, you know, they have are, you know, these are kinda controls, of course, but those are almost, in essence, no different than, say, pinning up an animal in a cage. Right? And so and watching them and, you know, maybe have you have a shock buzzer.
Speaker 1:Okay. Hit the button. You can't do that. You can't do that. But you're still in a cage.
Speaker 1:But I think that the ultimate end goal of this is actually to not even need that. Because I think that if they can have that level of control inside of our own bodies, where they can control our thoughts, our brain waves, control our functions, they can pacify us, that that's really the that's the the the the end end goal, as far as I understand with this, is that it's been a systematic plan to get technology into our bodies, build the infrastructure around us through five g, through HARP, through Starlink, satellite, etcetera. So build the control network around us and get that technology into our bodies, which I think was one of the main objectives of the COVID, the vaccine, quote unquote vaccine program, was to get that technology payload inside of people that they can then use to eventually control us. Because if in the future, you know, you don't need a prison. You don't need walls.
Speaker 1:If if you can literally, you know, through some sort of digital device, control everyone, that's great. But I also think that this goes hand in hand with the development of AI in the understanding that it'd be very difficult for them to build some sort of centralized computer that would require humans to monitor it to control everybody. It'd it'd be very difficult for them to achieve that. So I think that the development of an AI system that could act as the controller, and this is what's happening in China. You know, China's you know, they're using their AI system to run their social credit score and everything.
Speaker 1:It's also you look what Palantir is doing, all these it's very AI driven. I do think that that's really the end goal is to have some sort of AI overlord that has the access to everything, our thoughts, our emotions, whether it's through wearables or whether it's through internal kind of wearables. Right? Things that are attached at the cellular level. And I do think that that's actually where this all leads to.
Speaker 1:Now I'm not saying that's where we're going, but I think that's the end goal for them, is to have it so we all have this technology in our bodies. They have the infrastructure to control. They have the AI brain that the data centers needed to to do this. And overnight, they've got literally, they've got the entire human population as slaves. So Yes.
Speaker 1:I mean, it seems kinda wild, but I mean, do you think No. That's a a a fair assessment of where they want this to go?
Speaker 2:No. I think it's a fair assessment of where we are. Where they want to go is a step further. And this was again part of the research when we discovered there's a division of synbio in HHS. Their mission is to genetically modify every plant and animal species on the planet.
Speaker 2:And when you come to understand the integration of cesium into us, it's not just us, it's any living tissue. And the cesium has that same effect. It effectively turns that living tissue into a resource that amplifies, transmits, it receives and acts as a transducer. In other words, it can modulate signals, frequencies for that matter. So when you come to understand and you look into their integration and use of bio rhythms, That means all biorhythms, all of life and the ability for them to do that now so much so that there are already standards written by the IEEE, you got to have a lot of data for standards.
Speaker 2:They're actually changing the world from God's creation into their creation. How could Satan ever escape this domain? It's not his. Well, he's changing it into his. They're stealing life itself, Seth.
Speaker 2:How do we define life? How do we define our existence? We were given the opportunity to be in this domain by God and they're stealing that, such that every living thing is now theirs. That's actually what the law says. It goes back to this case we actually cited in our case to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2:It's molecular pathology versus marigenetics 2013 US Supreme Court held use of mRNA to modify anything, a species, changes the species number one from God's creation to theirs, they own it. It makes it into the intellectual property, personal property for that matter. So that's my view is, and I think this is in furtherance of an even a higher goal. Look at this from a planetary point of view. I don't know, like you said, Seth, I don't know who these owners are in terms of are they human?
Speaker 2:I can't bring myself to believe that. Are they aliens or a different species? And I think the answer is yes. I think that whoever these overlords are, they've been here for thousands of years. They've already enslaved us the entire time in just different ways, and none none of that's changed other than now their technological ability to actually pull it off.
Speaker 2:That's the concern.
Speaker 1:It is, but then it's also to me, it's also where the opportunity lies. Because when you start to see how dependent they are on this technology to achieve that plan, that becomes the Achilles' heel, is that technology. And this is what I think is interesting. And I know that you follow this a lot because you're following the markets a lot closer than I do, and you're kinda tuned into a lot of things, which is, you know, one of the reasons one of the many reasons why I enjoy these conversations is that they're trying to build this AI and this infrastructure, but I don't think that they're gonna be able to. And there's a lot of indicators that that show that.
Speaker 1:And one thing I saw recently that was a I wish I would have saved it, I think, a screenshot of my phone, is that I think it was something like only 5% of the companies that have had that have invested on using AI for their businesses. I think, I think literally, I think it's like only 5% actually saw a return on that investment. So as much as they're talking about, oh, AI is gonna replace our jobs. Okay. Yes.
Speaker 1:To a certain degree, we're gonna see that. But, you know, maybe I can I can find it? You know, once you're once you're talking, I can look off screen and find it real quick. But I think was literally only 5% of the companies that have actually invested heavily in AI are actually seeing a return. So there's there's some kind of disconnect happening there.
Speaker 1:Like, that's the thing is, like, as I mentioned to you before we started recording, I if you look at this and you look at how technology becomes the the critical tool to enslave humanity and to remove free will from mankind. Because if you've got a if you if you've got, you know, chips, you know, at a nanotech that's actually making your decisions for you, like, in my opinion, that goes against the the the law that God set forth in this delusion of a world, is that we have our free will. And so if if Satan in his minions are trying to build a system using AI and technology to bypass that free will, they're going against the will of God. And ultimately, you know, God kicked Satan out. It wasn't the other way around.
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Speaker 1:And I think that Satan has been allowed to kind of reign free here because I think that we have to be tested. We have to show, are we gonna have faith and and choose the path of virtue and morality, or are we gonna just kind of descend into being heathens and indulge in all the the pleasures of the world that get presented to us? And I think though that that by them trying to do it, it's like they're they're breaking something very fundamental about the laws that God has set forth in this world. And that I really believe that there's some sort of it's like that God has a a glass ceiling on the development of technology that, like, AI will not be able to achieve what they think it can be. Because if remember, these people, I like to say they don't believe in God, but they they they think they believe in God, but it's a lot of them, they they believe that that, like, they're they're better than God.
Speaker 1:It's like to them, it's like it's a it's a entity. It's a false god. Right? It's it's the inversion, right? That someone who worships Lucifer or Satan, they believe that Christ is actually the Satan.
Speaker 1:He's the evil one trying to deceive people. And so if these people, if they believe that, then they're not gonna anticipate that God has the ability to limit their technology that they'd wanna use. Like, they their arrogance, their hubris makes them think they can still achieve this. And so that's why I think, though, that it's and we're seeing it. I wanna hear your your thoughts on this, and especially as you're you're seeing what's happening with the market is we're seeing that they're they're building these huge data centers, but they can't actually power them.
Speaker 1:They don't have the energy to. They're propping up the stock market with the magnificent seventies tech companies, but it's a bubble, and we're seeing that. So it's like everything that they're doing, it seems like they want us to believe that it's this monolithic, massive, global technocratic system that's being built, but I think the whole thing is gonna fail. What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2:Well, I I yes. The the answer is I think that that's right, but it it's and I love to think that it's God's hand because I think that that's what's been guiding us for the last five years at least that, enough of humanity has woken up to stymie this. We've so screwed up their plan in terms of people not wanting to take the shots, people opting out of their five gs phones, the 21,000,000 Chinese did. All of these little things we do that are will, I'm not going to take a shot. I'm not going to use five gs.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to use AI. That's a choice I make. I refuse to use it. Guess what that does? It's not just an expression of free will, but they need us to power their machine, their economic machines, the velocity of money.
Speaker 2:By way of example, you look at the Bud Light fiasco with the transvestite spokesperson. What happened to Bud Light? Everybody said, well, we're not going to drink that anymore. And all of sudden the company's dying. It crashes.
Speaker 2:You look at my son's generation in particular. About half of those kids didn't go away to college because they said, what am I going to do? It's going be replaced by AI and robots. Well, what happens to the university system that everybody depends on for jobs engine crashing down? And his generation hate AI.
Speaker 2:They won't use it either. I won't use it. They won't use it. It's a binary option. I I equate it in some respects to like the GPS in your car.
Speaker 2:You go to foreign city, type in the address, you get to the the location, you don't know how you got there. And you let a machine do your thinking. So the AI is the same the same. Are you gonna allow a machine to do your thing, especially you know it's been trained to lie and it's wrong a lot? And maybe that's the reality they're confronting, but I think it's a function of us not going with the program, and two, they can't change their playbook.
Speaker 2:I think that President Trump's first term, albeit it didn't look like it was that useful to us that really wanted to see changes, it created such a delay in the master plan it doesn't appear as the owner class is able to actually change their plan or implementation of it. So the technology isn't where it should be because it just didn't get done, didn't get funded, whatever the case is, but it goes back to what you're saying, and that is God's greatest gift to mankind is free will, and we can exercise that all day every day, and we are, and look at the effect.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Exactly. And even, you know, I've got friends I've talked to, and and, they're they're they're telling me, like, there's no way I'm getting a robot. Right? Know, Elon Musk of of, you know, billions of optimist robots.
Speaker 1:There's no way I'm getting a robot in my home. I mean, like, no way. Like, I I have it's funny because I have this like, I was at the hospital, you know, quite a bit recently with with you know, my father was ill, and and they had these, like, kind of a these, like, robots kind of on the wheels kinda going around, and and they were so stupid. It was actually funny to watch, but also I I had this this urge to, like, become violent towards the robot. It was almost like it was almost like, say, a human living in the jungle or or say you look at a monkey.
Speaker 1:It has this innate urge to attack a snake with a stick. Right? It's like because it knows that that thing will try to hurt it. And that was my feeling towards it. It was like, this thing is this, like, I I I wanted to to, like, punch it or or or break it or something.
Speaker 1:And but I saw this robot. It's funny because it's, you know, it was at this advanced cancer hospital, and and I saw it was it was like standing outside the elevator, and someone walk up and say, can you please press the elevator and take me to this floor? And someone would press it, the door would open, and and it would just kind of spin around like this, and it wouldn't do anything, and then the the elevator would close. And it was just like, what a stupid machine. But actually, so Todd, I found that that study I was telling you about.
Speaker 1:So this is this is from, August 21. It was an MIT study on AI profits. So this is the headline. This is on Axios. MIT study on AI profits rattles tech investors.
Speaker 1:So what it says here, it says Wall Street's biggest fear was validated by a recent MIT study indicating that 95% of organizations studied get zero return on their AI investment. So to me, this is it. Like, this is God right here that we're seeing playing out in front of us. This is God's will. Oh, wow.
Speaker 1:This is why it matters. Investors have put up with record AI spend from tech companies because they expect record returns eventually. This study calls those returns into questions, which could be an existential risk for a market that's overly tied to the AI narrative. So MIT MIT researchers studied three I public AI initiatives to try to try and suss out the no hype reality of AI's impact on business. So what they found, 95% of organizations found zero return despite enterprise investment of 30 to 40,000,000,000 into Gen AI.
Speaker 1:Says even firms that are now using AI are not seeing widespread distribution. So between the lines, companies that bought AI tools were far more successful than those built intern those that built internal pilots. But what they're saying is that my fear is at some point, people will wake up and say, alright, AI is great, but maybe all this money is not actually being spent that wisely. So this is really, really significant. Right?
Speaker 1:Because obviously, we know a lot of these things are driven by money. They're driven by the markets. And as much as we know that they've got black budgets in the trillions and all that kind of stuff, they still need to have you know, if Nvidia comes out, you know, say, you know, three weeks from now with the earnings report, they say, actually, we've found that companies have stopped, you know, buying our products because the AI is not working, and they've missed their mark. You're gonna see their stock start to crater. And what happens, not it's not if, but when does the the tech AI bubble pops, I think that you're gonna see all the wind swept out of the sails, cause they need that public sentiment.
Speaker 1:They need the public investment, the public excitement to to get this thing over the finish line. But what's happening here is that we're already seeing these indicators that it's not working like they want it to. And this this is, like, some of those encouraging news that I've found in a while.
Speaker 2:Fabulous news. And I would add to this as as you're talking about that. It also reminds me in Texas, they built these big data centers. They were given preferential treatment for taxation. And then on top of that preferential treatment, not just taxation, they're given water and electricity rights over humans.
Speaker 2:You got water shortages and blackouts for humans, but not for the AI data centers nearby. And so every war is fought over resources. What is it AI needs? It needs electricity and water. What do humans need?
Speaker 2:Electricity, water and food. In other words, there's going to be a freaking war unless this gets settled. But to find that somehow or other under Texas law they're given this carte blanche for AI and data centers to the exclusion of humans should help us understand where it is we rank in the thinking of our government officials. And now that gives us the opportunity to say, hell no, we're not doing that. That's my water, it's my food, my electricity.
Speaker 2:But it puts that paradigm to the forefront when you're going without for some damn machine that doesn't work.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Actually, I'm gonna pull up real quickly here. Something I there was a I covered this recently where Elon Musk, was talking. I'm not sure if you saw this. It was at his, Tesla shareholder meeting.
Speaker 1:And let's see if I can find the clip of it. And someone had asked him, let's see, was it AI in charge? Let me see if I can pull this up quickly here. Yeah, right here. So look at this.
Speaker 1:This is interesting because again, it's gonna kinda read the room here. I'm not sure if did you see this clip at all?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So this is worth it's worth kind of pointing out. So for one, if if you watched many clips of this Tesla shareholder meeting, it was so much excitement. It was look how much you know, look how great the optimist is gonna be, and look what we're doing with the cyber taxi and and and the cyber truck. And so people were just it was like, you know, like the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1:Right? People were so excited. But then there's a q and a section. And, so so it says Musk is asked how we can get powerful people like himself to relinquish their power in a supposed post scarcity world. So if you listen to his answer, where he admits that that in in his view, AI is gonna be in charge.
Speaker 1:You can you can hear the silence in the room, and it tells you that people know, like people, they weren't cheering this. As much as they're cheering the new robots and, look, wow, you know, the Cybertruck can go zero to 60 in two seconds and haul a Porsche. Okay. That's great. But when he says this, you can tell people know what's going on.
Speaker 1:So I'll play this clip and you can hear the contact, you can hear what's going on here. So fifty one seconds. Let's listen to this. Let me make sure it's not too loud here.
Speaker 3:Even today, you've mentioned though that in a post scarcity world, the role of money could diminish or become obsolete. Mhmm. Given that much of today's power, including yours, is tied to wealth, do you think achieving this abundance would require powerful people to relinquish their power? And how might we address resistance from those who hold power to make this vision a reality?
Speaker 4:Well, I mean, I think actually long term, the AI is gonna be in charge, to be totally frank, not humans. If if artificial intelligence vastly exceeds the sum of human intelligence, it is difficult to imagine that any humans will actually be in charge. So, we just need to make sure that AI is friendly. Yep.
Speaker 2:Oh, now he's thinking about that. Now, we better make sure that AI is friendly. Really?
Speaker 1:Exactly. And that's the thing is, like, look, as much as, like, you know, maybe now, but a little bit less, I mean, Elon Musk was he was the hero of MAGA. Him up there with Trump and his dark MAGA hat, and, a lot of people you know, a of strong Christians look past the fact that he's his profile picture for a long time was him dressed in a a Satan, you know, Luciferian looking armor. Right? Yep.
Speaker 1:With I think it was with Baphomet on his armor. And everyone, you know, making excuses for it and saying, oh, no. Look what he's doing and doge and all this kind of stuff. But this is this is the truth. Right?
Speaker 1:Like, this should be, in in many ways, one of the most feared men in the world in in worrying, okay. What happens when this spirals out of control?
Speaker 2:What do you mean when? So so you look at Palantir is being fully integrated into HHS's computers. What is that? Well, it's being used by the Israelis now in Gaza as an autonomous, say that word again autonomous, targeting an eradication device. That's what it does.
Speaker 2:So what do we see in the early days of the shots? Oh, let's just give the shots to the old folks. Melinda Gates says, Oh, we have to give them to the blacks and the indigenous. Who did they get rid of? It's the unfunded liabilities.
Speaker 2:People think there's a trust fund associated. There's no trust fund. It's a system of transfers. They take from working people and they give it to non working people. What they did was eliminate their unfunded liabilities.
Speaker 2:Look at this now in light of what it is we're talking about. AI and robots. What does that do to the average working people? It makes them redundant. It makes them unfunded liabilities.
Speaker 2:How are they going to meet these people's obligations to feed themselves? Universal basic income? Who's going to pay for that? If you're not productive, how does that work? The answer it doesn't.
Speaker 2:Effectively there's supposed to be the replacements to us vis a vis SenBio because we're efficient as a means of production of electricity and computing. Great! The only problem is we don't have any role in it. That's a new species. It's a non thinking.
Speaker 2:It's a computer species, and I think that was a really sentinel moment that you played there when one guy coughs. The room was so quiet. The guy coughs. It's like, did you just say that? Because the gravity of the situation just landed on everybody.
Speaker 2:We're being made redundant, and they just figured that out.
Speaker 1:But I think that people are rejecting it. I mean, a lot
Speaker 5:of people
Speaker 2:are using I hope so.
Speaker 1:But you go back to what happened in 1776. What was it? 3% of population that stood up? Yeah. That's all it took.
Speaker 1:And that's what, know, as we're kind of rounding out here, I think that it's as you know, we usually do, what are the solutions? Where's the hope? And I think that I've kind of put a few small kind of quick points out there that I really want to hear your thoughts, but I think it's A, exercising our free will, right? Not getting smart devices in our homes, not getting a robot, not participating, you know, living and trying our best to kind of build a life that's outside of that control grid. But I also think that it's really important that we in this conversation, the discussion of good versus evil and understanding the role of that, because it's like, to me, the most important thing that we can do is become a more moral and virtuous civilization, a more moral and virtuous Beautiful.
Speaker 1:Individual family, community, because it's like you realize that it really is a battle of good versus evil. If and if evil gets gets its way, there's you have zero chance of defending yourself from this beast system. If they've got these, you know, mosquito sized drones with payloads on them Yeah. It doesn't matter how many guns you own. There's a lot of Americans like, oh, we've got all our guns.
Speaker 1:It's like, yeah. Go watch the the war footage of Ukraine and Russia and watch how quickly these, you know, like, forces teams are being taken out by a single drone. So that we're not gonna be able to use flesh and blood to fight this battle.
Speaker 5:Try
Speaker 2:and shoot a mosquito with a nine millimeter. Good luck.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. And so that's what to me, that that that's it. Obviously, it's like rejecting, exercising free will, but fundamentally, it's just doing everything we can to get our our country, our community, our family back to God.
Speaker 1:Because then it's like, I think then we'll deserve God's protection. But if we don't do that and we become Sodom and Gomorrah and and, you know, the Babylonian America, like, then why do we deserve to be protected? But anyway, what what are your thoughts, Tom?
Speaker 2:That's beautiful. No. It's so beautiful. Well, let me as you're saying this, it makes me think of an anecdotal story. When my kids were little their favorite word was no.
Speaker 2:You're in the throes
Speaker 1:of No. No now.
Speaker 2:They're exercising their free will. We are not doing that. What does mom and dad do? Oh, okay. Here we go again.
Speaker 2:I guess we're not doing that today. So it works and so I have the same thing. I've got a lot of metal in my body. When I go to airports, the TSA screeners, you know, you look at these poor people. They have us bored out of their heads, but they hate me generally when they see me because I'm not going through your metal detectors.
Speaker 2:If I do I'm gonna set it off and I'm not going through your microwave oven you know the one that go like this. It's a microwave the thing that you cook food with it's the exact same signal. I'm not going through your microwave oven So I get up there and I I say, listen, can I please have a pat down instead? And they with great privacy, we haven't opt out in the
Speaker 1:whole Oh, me too. I'm always kind of standing there and looking around. Everyone's looking at me like I'm strange. I love it. I love
Speaker 2:it because you know why I love it because then I have an opportunity to have a conversation with the CSA people and I've done this all over the world and they'll say you know you got any parts? Why don't you go through that machine? And it gives me a chance to explain to them, do you know what those frequencies are? Can you tell me? Because I know what they are.
Speaker 2:You know what frequency that operates on? And after you have a conversation with him, you explain to them, no, I'm not doing this. I now see other people. It's contagious. We had a guy we're traveling with to South America a month ago.
Speaker 2:He said, I didn't know you could opt out. Yeah, you can. You know those photographs too? You don't have to take those. You can opt out.
Speaker 2:So the point is one you're making. Right? If we say no, I'm opting out of your nonsense. If enough people do it, your 3% or whatever, none of this is doable. Go back to the whole Bud Light thing.
Speaker 2:Enough people said I'm not buying your Bud Light, but they had to change direction. So it does work, and it is up to us. It's always been up to us, Seth. And I think you're right. Back in the days of Babylon, before the great flood, people had a chance.
Speaker 2:You know, don't go this way. And they did anyway, and what happened? God flooded the world and started over. We're at that precipice again, and we have the opportunity to save ourselves, and and, god willing, we are. Seth, I we're still here.
Speaker 2:Brother, the plan was for us all to be dead. You look at the DEAGLE report, a 70% reduction in The United States population by the end of this year. That wasn't a forecast. That was a plan. And yet, we are still here.
Speaker 2:So I think that's going to what your point is is that this time can be different. And God willing, and if people can find Christ and go back to spirituality, I think we've got a really good chance of seeing our kids grow into adults and having grandkids.
Speaker 1:Exactly. It's funny because it reminds me of the masks. And I refused to wear the mask. And I remember going into Whole Foods or grocery stores, and it was actually so simple. Right?
Speaker 1:Because I'd go walk into a Whole Foods, which was, you know, they had the really strict mask requirements and everything. And I'd walk in there. I'd the only person without a mask, and I and and I'd see I'd see it in the corner of my eye. Okay. Here comes the manager.
Speaker 1:He's walking up. Yeah. Sir, you need put a mask on. I look at him. I go, nope.
Speaker 1:And I just keep walking, and they they wouldn't know what to do. Like Yeah. It's like they they weren't used to that. It's like, how dare you second guess my power? And I just look at them, I'd say, nope.
Speaker 1:I'm not gonna
Speaker 2:wear one. Love it.
Speaker 1:Right? And I continue shopping. I just keep walking, and they they would never follow me. They they didn't know how to handle it because it's like it's almost like something kind of like divine happened at that moment where it's like, okay. Hey, look, you know, Satan, he he he exercised his free will.
Speaker 1:Right? Now granted, you know, there were certain countries like China and whatever where, you know, they said, okay, we'll put a black bag over your head. And I think America is is the vanguard of this this battle in many ways. Yeah. And that's that's all it took.
Speaker 1:It was so simple. And I'd oftentimes smile and say, nope, and just keep walking. And and I'd see someone else without a mask, like, we'd see each other, and I'd see their face, they'd see my face, and we'd have this like telepathic, like, you know, kind of fist bump that was happening. I go talk to them sometimes, and, you know, anyways, like, that's what we need to do.
Speaker 2:That is your show. That's that connected consciousness. But you just put it in great words, a telepathic fist bump. I love it. That's you, brother.
Speaker 2:The leader I of
Speaker 1:guess so. I guess so. Well, Todd, as we're wrapping up, do you have any kind of last thoughts to to leave folks with?
Speaker 2:Oh, a plethora. They never end. It's vigilance, Seth. And, and this is the cool part. Right?
Speaker 2:As you're talking about abandoning AI and whatnot, you know, people are actually getting this. We're helping people graduate out of this full trust paradigm where anything official was believed. Now people go, it's official. The FDA says it'll help you. It's going to kill you.
Speaker 2:Right? So now people are actually taking the time to do the research themselves, and this is part of that resurgence about taking our dominion, our domain back, and it's happening. It's contagious. It's beautiful, and it makes me happy because I see a future, especially when my son's generation are like, I'm not doing AI. They're actually seeing the consequence in the forecast.
Speaker 2:I'm really heartened by that. So, I'm chuffed, brother. I think we're gonna make it, but it takes everybody pulling in the same direction.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Exactly. And I think these conversations help give people that ammo, that encouragement, and also that telepathic fist bump, right? I think that's what it is. Think that
Speaker 2:Love that.
Speaker 1:That's why these you know, our interviews oftentimes go far. Why? Because people, they watch, they listen, and they're saying, Yeah, like, you know, you're, you're right with me. It's like, I think people feel very alone, right? They do feel very isolated.
Speaker 1:And that's, that's a big part of it. And so when they get that acknowledgement, they're, they're just like,
Speaker 2:oh. Validation?
Speaker 1:You're on my team. You're on my team. Actually, I'll pull something up here just because I think I told you about this. But I told you so so one of the the projects that I'm doing, which I'm I'm was supposed to be launched about a month ago, but, you know, with my father being ill and passing and a few other things happening, it kinda slowed things down. But so, I'm building an online community.
Speaker 1:Right? Did did I tell you about this? I think I might have mentioned it to you.
Speaker 2:I knew about books, and I knew something about about this. But please, yeah,
Speaker 1:sure. Well, it's this this this from this calling to do it. So actually, we're the the URL is buildthearc.com, and I and I think we're launching within the next couple of weeks. We're at very, very finishing stages. But the idea is is to take that exact thing.
Speaker 1:Right? All those people that, you know, just kind of wore the mask because no one else was was was rejecting it. Right? Or people that felt isolated. It's so we're I'm building this online community, but it's really about building offline connections, right?
Speaker 1:So it's almost like a, it's very private, very secure. It's almost like a social media type site, but it's just for the, it's a private membership community, just for people that join, that share our values. And it's really about this understanding that it takes us strengthening the bonds with each other and supporting each other. That's how we're gonna accomplish this. And so this, what it is, though, is that people come, you know, come on, they create a profile, they can interact.
Speaker 1:There's all these different message boards. So a lot of it's around preparedness. There's gonna be different kind of boards. So say you need help with your solar setup. You have questions about canning food.
Speaker 1:Oh, cool. There's all kinds of experts that are gonna be on there that can help you with that. There there's a huge library we're gonna be building out of tutorials, how to training courses. A lot of it really built upon self reliance. Right?
Speaker 1:So how to off grid your water systems, how to off grid, you know, have medicine, how to find natural medicines, how to, you know, you know, even the idea that you can actually use, you know, fish antibiotics, you know, in a pinch. If you need to actually get antibiotics, you can use a lot of animal related stuff. Right? And then, so the community, is a lot of it goes up building these offline connections. So there's gonna be chapters.
Speaker 1:So, you know, whatever region you're in, whether you're in The United States and you find, oh, it's this is the Northwest region, or say you're in the Ireland region, that there's gonna be chapters. So you can start to build these connections and have local meetups.
Speaker 2:Magnets.
Speaker 1:So you can actually meet other people. Because I've realized is that you and I are just kind of like in a big blob of the community that's being built around these conversations. And there's a lot of people that are thinking, gosh, if I could only if I knew more Todd Callender's locally. Like, the idea is that this is how they can find it. Right?
Speaker 1:So, anyway, so for people that are watching, if you if you want to get on the, the kind of waiting list, you just go to buildtheark.com. So it's called the ARC community, right? You say Noah had his ARC, but what we're doing is we're building a collective ARC together to support each other. Anyway, so it's buildthearc.com, and just plug in your name and your email there. And this is how you can, you know, you can we'll we'll notify people when the community is open for for joining.
Speaker 1:But this is something, again
Speaker 2:Oh, I love that.
Speaker 1:Hopefully, within weeks or so, we're gonna have it launched. All the the back end's already ready for it. We we've already been testing it. We've got members already that are kind of the the beta version of it. Yeah.
Speaker 1:There's a whole even there's a little area for prayer requests. Right? So say you're you're struggling and, know, say you're, you know, having issues with your with your spouse or someone's sick, you need a place where you can come on and say, look, here's where I'm at. Can I get some prayers and some support? There's gonna be that aspect of it too.
Speaker 1:So it's really about building kind of fellowship and community. So, you know, I'll make sure that the URL is in the description, but it just felt like it's it felt so natural to bring that into our discussion because that's really what this is, is we have to kind of build these these systems. And unfortunately, we we, you know, we have to use online for some aspects of it, but the key is using online to build these offline relationships.
Speaker 2:I love this. I love your concept. Count me in. I'll be one of your OGs. Perfect.
Speaker 2:It's brilliant. It's absolutely brilliant. I'd love to be a part of that.
Speaker 1:Well, perfect. Well, Todd, as usual, it's great talking to you. I always feel good, you know, kind of coming out of these conversations. I feel like, you know what? There is hope.
Speaker 2:We've got
Speaker 1:a way forward. We're still here. And we'll just keep going.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're gonna keep marching. There isn't any alternative anyway, so let's be joyous while we do it.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Well, Todd, thank you. Take care and God bless.
Speaker 2:My honor.
Speaker 1:It's great speaking with you.
Speaker 2:Likewise. God bless you and yours.
Speaker 1:Thank you. So I hope you enjoyed the interview. But I've now got a short fifteen minute interview that's quite fascinating with a guy named Tom Simon, who is former FBI and a current, financial investor basically, he's a private investigator with a focus on financial crimes, talking about what happens when people steal one of your greatest assets that you have. So we'll be detailing that. Again, it's about fifteen minutes, so please enjoy this short little interview for you.
Speaker 1:Tom, Simon, it's great to have you as a guest on the show. Thank you so much for being here with us today.
Speaker 5:Oh, Seth, thanks so much for having me on.
Speaker 1:So you are former FBI, which is I'd be hesitant about having a current FBI person on the show, but usually former, I can I can talk a little more openly to? But you're also a private investigator, you know, specifically focusing on financial crimes, which is we'll get into that. But the one thing that we're really kinda honing in on today is literally how someone can basically steal your home from you. And, you know, you you were talking before we started recording about kind of more libertarian mindset, and, you know, I I own my land, and I'm out in the country. And it's this idea of, like, this is my land, and and I own it.
Speaker 1:And this is part of the the fundamental part of what it means to be an American is the opportunity to even though, you know, with all the taxation, it's kind of like, do I really own my land? Am I still renting it from the government until I die from taxes? But that's a different story. But the idea though that someone can literally steal your house is such it's so wild. It's almost difficult to believe.
Speaker 1:But with your background and with your current work, this is something that you know all too well. So why don't you just give us just a a basic overview of what this is?
Speaker 5:It is counterintuitive because we all go home to our house at the end of the day and live there quite comfortably with the knowledge that this is our home. You there's know, a mortgage on it, you said, and there's taxes that you got to pay, but ultimately it's still your home. What the fact is that someone can actually go to your county clerk's office, a criminal, and file a document called a deed. And then what that deed does is it will transfer ownership of your home from your name into their name or the name of somebody that's working for them as a straw buyer, let's say. And then they can go out and get home equity lines of credit or loans on your home as using it as collateral from banks who just aren't paying that close of attention because legally on the books and the county records, the bad guy is now the owner of your house.
Speaker 5:And here's the thing, Seth, you won't even know this occurred until months later when the foreclosure notices start arriving in your mailbox.
Speaker 1:So, basically, let's just say that the guy, Sammy Smith, is a criminal. Yeah. I think oftentimes these guys have fake IDs. Right? Either them or their their their partner.
Speaker 1:They're they're working with stolen identities. Maybe they've even stolen my own identity. Right? But but, basically, what you're saying is that they have ways of changing the ownership, which is the deed, in within the county records. You know, I've bought and sold homes before.
Speaker 1:I know there's a process. You you go through a title company, and they handle all that for you. But Mhmm. I know that when when getting a loan with a bank, the bank has to verify with the county that you own the home that Right. That you are working or that you're purchasing the home that you're getting a loan on.
Speaker 1:And there's a lot of due diligence there. And so what you're saying is that someone can basically which, I mean, see it makes sense that it's kind of archaic that can they just go to the county record and file some paper. You'd think these things would all be connected, but it's like if you go to the DMV, you know that they're still in the 1980s and a lot of their technology. So they can go to the county play, you know, the county records, change or change that record showing that I no longer own own the home that they do, or some fake identity that they that they have taken owns the home. But then they can use that home as collateral to go take out a $400,000 loan on the home that I thought that I think that I actually still own.
Speaker 1:And they take the money and run, and then say three, four, five months down the road, the bank's not getting payments, obviously. I didn't get a letter showing that the bank is foreclosing on my home, and I'm saying, wait. I didn't go get a loan with Chase Bank. My my loan is with, you know, the local company. Is that basically how how it works?
Speaker 5:Yeah. You explained it, Will. I mean, the deed is the mechanism that transfers ownership from one person to another. It could be a quick claim deed or a warranty deed, the title of your house is really what matters. And that title, if it's in the name of you and someone goes in and files a quick claim deed in the county clerk's office, moving that into the name of a homeless guy that they just paid $50 to or their own name, for example, they become, as far as the county clerk is concerned, the owner of record of your home, and then they can go and get loans on it.
Speaker 5:They could sell it out from under you. They can do anything. And I think you touched upon something why people are so skeptical about that this would happen. The problem is, and I know you have a healthy distrust of the government and I appreciate that as a former government employee, I do too, but the county clerk's office by statute is not verifying the authenticity of these deeds that transfer ownership. Their job by statute is to simply record those deeds in the public record.
Speaker 5:And so that's the weak link in the chain. There's no one watching the store at your County Clerk's office to say that this deed is legitimate and this deed is fraudulent. Once they their job is solely to transfer that ownership according to the documents.
Speaker 1:And so, with your FBI background and with your current, you know, work as a private investigator, how common is this? Is this something that you know, because there's a lot of threats out there. It's like, someone could kidnap me tomorrow and and, you know, have a ransom on me. There's a lot of threats, but then you think, is that really gonna happen? You know, of course, I can get in a car accident or get struck by lightning.
Speaker 1:I'm still gonna keep going on living my life. But with this title theft, I mean, big of a how big of an industry is it and how common is it?
Speaker 5:Anecdotally, I can see that it happens a lot because I do work for a company called Home Title Lock. We have analysts there that send me clippings of news articles and criminal charges where it's happening. It's a long list every single week. The problem is that there's with the exception of New York and Florida, there's no crime on the books anywhere called home title theft. It's usually charged as in the federal system by the mail fraud or the wire fraud statute.
Speaker 5:So I saw it a lot as an FBI agent, but there's no way to good way to index it. So it happens a lot. It happens a lot in like these crazy circumstances with these very sympathetic victims, but we don't have good numbers on it. The other problem is that a lot of the times when someone goes into their local police station to say, hey, someone has stolen the title to my home. The police who are trying to work hard to keep us safe often tell them, listen, I don't really understand what you're talking about.
Speaker 5:It sounds like a civil matter. If you're in a real estate dispute with someone, go sue them. And then it never even hits the criminal courts.
Speaker 1:I see. Which is kind of crazy because it's like, let's say, if someone stole my $10,000 tractor, right, and I went to the local precinct, They'd I'd file a report, and they would probably, you know, do their due diligence, and they'd be looking for this, you know Right. Certain model of Kubota tractor if they if they see it. They'd actually work on finding it. And if they found it, they would probably prosecute the person who stole it, and they'd get the tractor back to me.
Speaker 1:I guess seems like a very simple thing. Yet, someone could have a a million dollar home that this happens with that literally, like, you know, if someone steals my tractor, it's like, I'm gonna be okay. Right? But if someone steals your home, and all of a sudden, you've got foreclosure happening on your home that you live in, and that home, for a lot of Americans, represents the entirety of your nest egg, you're kind of up the creek without a paddle, right?
Speaker 5:It's a problem, right? It's a paper caper, and oftentimes the police aren't super excited to work those kind of cases. Whereas like a CPA nerd like me that was hired by the FBI spent twenty six years working these type of cases. I like fraud cases. And you pointed out something really intelligent is that for most Americans, myself included, the equity you have in your home is your single largest asset.
Speaker 5:But it's kind of nebulous, right? Because it's an ownership of a property that you're not trying to sell that has a value that you know what the value is, but when someone steals that from you, it's just very difficult for law enforcement to kind of wrap their heads around this and act appropriately. It's getting better. I mean, we're doing kind of a public education campaign going on shows like this talking about it, But it's, it's still a problem, and people need to keep an eye on their home title to make sure it doesn't happen to them.
Speaker 1:And so you mentioned New York, this case that just happened in New York, where the, AG James actually has now changed this, to make it, you know, a pro actually, a prosecutable crime. Right? So Right. Can you walk us through, what happened here?
Speaker 5:Yeah. There was a realtor in Rockland County, New York named Oscar Deus. And what he did is he forged a woman's name on a deed. Her name was Monique Hale, the victim, transferring ownership of the house to Oscar's control. And then he took her house and even though she's still living in it and began monetizing that house so he could extract the equity from it using loans and other means.
Speaker 5:But the problem is this happened in 2021 and it took five years for a law to pass that was retroactive that they could actually charge Oscar with this. The problem, though, is that the federal I'm sorry. The criminal justice system is not really set up to give to undo the damage done. The the the criminal courts is not the proper venue to unwind the situation and get that house back into Monique's name or any victim's name of home title theft.
Speaker 1:I see. And so what's crazy is that it's saying here, he was in he was in the Dominican Republic, like, at when this was happening. Right? So the guy who did it, it's it's like you know, so he doesn't
Speaker 5:even You can thank COVID for that.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I guess you're right. Yeah. Actually, that's true because I'm sure that under COVID that
Speaker 5:You would have saw to walk in, present a document with a notary signature, present identification, make it look real. Now ever since COVID, a lot of these counties are allowing you to file your deeds and transferring ownership of a home from you to someone else online. And so there's not even anyone watching the store at the county clerk's office.
Speaker 1:Crazy. And this is I hear it saying actually, this is just the latest example of, Ed G. James taking action. It says in in August, two people were charged for stealing the home of an elderly woman in Queens. In February, there's a charge against a woman in Queens for stealing the home and funds of her elderly neighbor.
Speaker 1:And and I've seen I've looked at this too because, when I was first investigating working with Home Title Lock, I was just, okay. Is this is this real? And, yeah, if you go and you search, you know, title theft, you can see there's a bunch of news coverage. And and almost every time, it's it's like the gauntlet of difficulty if the person ever even recovers those funds. And that's one of other questions that I had for you with this was that we talked about this tractor.
Speaker 1:So say I had a tractor that was stolen. They're gonna work on trying to get you know, if if they catch the bad guy, hey. We found the tractor in his garage, you know, and they're gonna hopefully get it back to me. And I know, you know, if cars are stolen, those cars get parted out and everything, and your insurance will give you replacement because that's that's covered. But do people recover off of this?
Speaker 1:Like, if if you if you've, you know, one day wake up and there's a foreclosure and someone's got a half $1,000,000 mortgage on your home, and they they took that money, and that money is not even in an American based bank account anymore. What what
Speaker 5:The trick is trying to restore the proper ownership of the home to the victim. And so there's options for that, right? A victim can hire attorneys and spend an absolute fortune getting civil attorneys to kind of make this thing right and restore that home back into it. And you mentioned home title lock, and, you know, I'm a spokesperson for them. They have a US based restoration team that'll do it for you with no out of pocket expenses for home title lock subscribers.
Speaker 1:And so it's just it's just kinda wild. But with that process, right? Because I know that, in different interviews I did on this, they were explaining to me how like, let's just say that person loses their home. If they go try to find an attorney or find someone to help with it, well, for one, I think from what I'm saying, a lot of attorneys don't even actually understand a lot of the specific mechanisms of how to get this back. Like, if you go to an attorney and say, hey.
Speaker 1:Someone stole my home. They they they might be they'll they'll look into it, and they'll do their best, but it's not something like, it's such a when you're dealing with, like, this complex labyrinth of documents and systems and deeds and everything, but you're also kind of going between criminal and civil, it's not easy to navigate. Right?
Speaker 5:That's the thing. Like, real estate attorneys are very good at what they do. They facilitate the closings on houses and make sure everything is squared away with the title transfer and all that. But when something is done fraudulently, that requires a very specific set of skills that a lot of real estate attorneys don't have. So if someone is caught in this situation, and they need to go out and hire someone to do that, you want to make sure you hire someone who actually knows this process and knows how to unring the bell rung by the criminal when they stole your home.
Speaker 1:And so, I want to pull up Home Title Lock's website. And, so people the web's URL, just hometitlelock.com/seth. And, so I know they have this million dollar triple lock protection. So walk us through what does Home Title Lock do? Because if if I if I know correctly, they don't necessarily go in and, like, kinda put a wall up at every county office, making sure no one can steal your title.
Speaker 1:But what they do is that they monitor that activity so you catch it at the very inception of the theft, and you're then able to stop it. If so correct me if I'm wrong, but also explain a little more about what how they work.
Speaker 5:Yeah. Let me walk through that. So it's important that every single person watching your show, Seth, monitors their home title with some regularity. The problem is you're gonna drive yourself crazy hopping on the county clerk's website you so can take a look at your home title every single day to make sure no one has messed with it, no one has placed a lien on your house or transfer title from your name to the name of some homeless guy. So Home Title Lock is gonna take that off your shoulders.
Speaker 5:So the first kind of piece of the triple lock protection is the monitoring. They're gonna monitor the status of your home title electronically. The second piece is notification. They're gonna let you know if anything should change on your home title. Sometimes that's perfectly legitimate.
Speaker 5:You go out and get a home equity line of credit because you wanna build a deck in the back or some kind of loan on your house, that's gonna trip up, that's gonna create a lien on the county clerk's website and you're gonna be notified and you can tell Hometown a lot, no, no, no, was me. But you wanna be notified if someone, if a bad guy also is doing something to your house. But the third one, and in my mind, this is the most important is The US based restoration team. Or if the bad guy is somehow able to transfer that home out of your name into someone else's name and then begin getting loans on it, The US based restoration team from Hometown Aloc is gonna spend a million bucks in legal fees or whatever it takes to get that home back into your name, which to me is worth its weight in gold.
Speaker 1:I see. So that that makes sense. That makes sense. So, okay. So the URL, which and I'll put this up in in the description for the show.
Speaker 1:It's just hometitlelock.com/seth. And if they use the or if you if you use a promo code seth, then you get a free title history report and a free trial of the triple lock protection. And it's I mean, to me, it's it seems like it's a I guess people are very familiar with identity theft protection Yeah. You know, services that you can sign up for, and they'll notify you if someone uses your Social Security number to open a credit card or a line of credit or get an auto loan. So it's kind of it seems like it's the same principle, except it just it's applied to your home.
Speaker 5:Exactly. It's the exact same idea, and God willing, you'll never need it. Right? But I have a smoke detector in every room of my house and hopefully my house doesn't catch on fire, but I sleep better knowing that that smoke detector is there kind of looking out for me even when I'm not paying attention to it. It's one less thing I need to think about.
Speaker 5:I'm a home title lock subscriber myself. Again, my largest asset is the equity in my house. I cannot afford to have that stolen from me.
Speaker 1:Makes perfect sense. So, Tom, thank you again, for giving us your time. Make sure, as I mentioned, that all the links we talked about are in the show description. And, it's been nice talking to you, and I'm I'm still kind of envious over your book collection behind you, which is, which is quite impressive there. So
Speaker 5:Alright. Well, Seth, it's so great talking to you, and please let me know if I can ever do anything for you.
Speaker 1:Great. Thank you very much.
Speaker 5:Alright. Take care, buddy.