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008 - Seed oils
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riverside_50_cups_raw-video-cfr_podcast_cary_0065: [00:00:00] Hello everybody. It is time for the 50 Cups Hot Takes with the one and only author, entrepreneur.
Very awesome guy. Jim Bakker. How are you, Jim? Doing well. How are you? I'm doing great. Looking good today. Well, thank you. I dressed up for you because you deserve that kind of respect. You really do. Jim also owns the 50 Cup Tea Company and every week one of the reasons I show up is he brings another delicious.
Cantor of tea. Did you do so again today? I did. Oh, I can't wait. What is it today We've been doing cold tea or iced tea. Yeah. Uh, The chilled [00:01:00] tea, I guess. 'cause I don't bring the ice into the studio. But today thought we'd change it up and go with a little hot Ooh, a little gray organic tea. Okay, now the trick is gonna be, be able to pour out of a Yeti.
I don't know if those of you. That actually listened to this podcast, have actually tried to pour some that at Yeti before, but they haven't perfected that technology yet. So I may splash a little bit, but, you know, I'm gonna try to do my best and also at the same time, not burn my fingers. Alright.
Hopefully you'll see the robust color and eventually flavor and aroma of Oh, look at that. And well, well done sir. Well done. Nice little red color to, to it. Well, thank you. Just the way you want it. Ooh, that does look nice. Ooh, it is warm. Why you might want to ask why I chose hot tea today. Jim, why did you choose hot tea today?
I don't know, to be honest with you because it's about 85 degrees and a hundred. It is warm in here. Yes, 50% humidity here, but I don't know. You know, it's Tuesday and sometimes it just [00:02:00] tastes good, feels right, feels good to have a nice soothing, hot cup of tea. So it falls right around the corner.
It's gonna get chilly here soon, I hope. Yes. What a wonderful addition to your life. A little cup of warm tea. Does this help me in any way? All your teas you sell have some kind of upside to your health Yes.
Is my point. Yes. Badly. Well, obviously it has a little caffeine in it, so it's gonna give you a little bit of energy and that's good. It also have a lot of tannins and some other things in there. And yeah, it's I, whatever I serve you. It is never gonna be bad for you. That's right. That's why I like hanging with you.
Yeah, yeah. Never fear before. Before you know it, you're gonna look like you're 10 years old. Years. I'm gonna have to get a whole case of that stuff. Then speaking of which, you know, where you, your hot takes I, I sometimes they're obvious, there's somewhat obvious and I can kind of get a sense of where you're gonna go.
But the list I saw today really kind of threw me into what the heck does Jim want to talk about today? If you don't mind, I'll start with the [00:03:00] first one. Because nobody really talks about seed oils. Everybody wants to, I'm sure. But Jim, what about seed oils? So I don't know if, I, I'm not gonna get political, but, RFK Jr has been talking a lot about health and yes, Besley Children's health and the toxins in our environment and everything else over the last, I don't know, years and years, and.
In addition to that, I think a few weeks ago there was a Maha Make America Healthy again forum in Washington DC and. There are some specific people that, Casey and Kelly for example, and I think Kelly is a, former's, a medical doctor outta Stanford University, and they talk a lot about the unhealthy aspects of our food supply and mostly around the processed foods, et cetera, et cetera.
But the primary [00:04:00] culprit over the last, you know, 10, 15 years has been the. Widely introduction of seed oils, you know, into our food supply. So basically there's eight seed oils, right? And they're called, in some cases the people will call them the hateful eight. There's the most popular one, which is canola oil.
I've heard of that. Yes. And you have the famous corn oil. Yes. Then you have cotton seed oil. You have grape seed oil, you have soybean oil, you have sunflower oil, you have rice bran oil. Then of course you have peanut oil as well, and on the surface, a lot of these labels sound relatively healthy, right? Yes, they do.
Like, for example, sunflowers are supposed to be good for you. Yes, right. Rice, you know, been a starch forever has some positive health properties. Peanuts supposed to be great for you as well. The problem is that they highly process these seed oils. So the number one, one is [00:05:00] canola. That is used in a lot of different things and the reason why they use seed oils.
It's because they, you can cook at a very high temperature without it burning olive oil, not so much, you know, butter a little bit less. Other oils a little bit less. So they're, they're efficient, which means that you can yes, generate more profit because you can use less oil, let's say, to cook and or to preserve.
In this case, it's also used as a preservative. You know, and some of the ingredients that, are part of your typical boxed processed food categories. Well, this sounds all great. What's the problem, Jim? So canola oil, right? Mm-Hmm. So it's, it's actually a a real live plant. It's picked and then it's processed. And as you go through the processing you, it's separated from its seeds, from its other things.
And then the beauty of our market driven economy is that they're taking certain things that are separated out to make canola oil [00:06:00] and they're. Reselling it as farm stock, for example, animal stock feed and other things. But eventually it goes through this process where it's it's separated, it's pressed, and then it's heated, it's cleansed, bleached in this case.
And at the end of the day you have this vat full of canola oil where it's lost all of its nutrients. And in addition to that, it's incorporated additional properties during the process such as cleaning agents, et cetera, which are toxic. And now they're part of this oil that's actually gonna be used for you to cook your food in and or for you to mass produce your food in that it eventually finds its way into the grocery stores.
So what you're saying then, the process of extracting the oil itself. Introduces chemicals. It introduces chemicals, and it also [00:07:00] they're also considered trans. They're omega six trans fats as opposed to omega threes. Explain that if you wouldn't mind. So, omega threes are the everybody loves the omega threes.
They're great for heart health, they're great for your body. Olive oil, for example. Some of the animal fats some of the other. They're not processed fats is probably the best way to describe it. Okay. Beef tallow, for example, but the omega sixes, they're highly processed, so therefore they have a very high inflamm inflammatory property to them.
So, because you're, you're tripping out all the nutrients, you're mass producing this stuff, and then it's basically incorporated in everything in life. So the hot take on this whole thing is I'm having a hard time escaping. Eating healthy foods that aren't really healthy for you because they have been processed with seed oils.
So the Heart, American Heart Association will tell you, Hey, [00:08:00] fish oil eat nuts, eat natural snacks, nuts, you know, cashews, almonds, et cetera, et cetera. Well, if you literally go read the ingredients on the major brands of nuts in the grocery store. They're either processed in peanut oil, seed oil, they're processed in sunflower oil, seed oil or they're processed in cotton seed oil.
Seed oil. So basically you're supposed to be getting this healthy snack where the nut itself is actually pretty good for you, right? But it's, it's been cooked, roasted in these seed oils. And what they're telling you is that you really want to be in a position as a human. To have a two to one ratio between omega sixes and omega threes.
Right. Alright. The problem is because you don't know what you're eating. Mm-Hmm. Even if you're trying to eat healthy and they're loaded with these seed oils, your actual ratio could be anywhere from 15 to [00:09:00] 20 to one each day. Wow. So at the end of the day, you're ingesting industrialized, processed oils that have no nutritional value to you.
Are increasing your inflammation and are, and anybody will tell you the main cause of heart disease is inflammation. So the goal for your body is to reduce the inflammation. Not to increase the inflammation, but because these are hidden, not hidden, they're actually, they tell you what's in there, but they're actually in the every single piece of processed food that we eat.
That at the end of the day, your ratios are skyrocketing. Now, some of the. Heart websites that you go on will tell you that it's not necessarily the seed oil itself, it's the fact that it's the seed oil coupled with the processed food, and therefore you should not eat the processed food. I would argue that if I'm gonna go ahead and eat a bag of cashews every single day as unprocessed food, [00:10:00] but it's been roasted in a seed oil that I'm gonna still hit those same ratios that I would hit get if I ate a Ritz cracker, for example, or if I ate a bowl of cereal.
That's an excellent point, and I've been conditioned to look at those labels, and if I were to see that, I would think, well, that's healthy. Because, you know, I don't do the right research that you do, but I mean, I think society generally is, they go, well, nuts are healthy, seed oil is healthy, and I never really thought about it.
How often your, your body's being introduced to that? I mean, whether you go, I guess anywhere, right? A restaurant, maybe even your own house. Your pros, you're using seed oil maybe instead of butter to cook. Yeah. And you know, potato chips for example. Yeah. You know, you might see a brand that says organic potatoes, salt, and.
Sunflower cotton, seed, peanut, whatever that the, potatoes cooked in. Well, how do you avoid that though? Well, you gotta buy potato chips. If you love potato chips, yes, you gotta buy ones that are cooked in avocado or [00:11:00] olive oil. Okay. But very few brands that are out there that you can choose from.
And on top of that, it's gonna cost you some extra money. Ah. So for example, I was on Instagram once a month. I go on just to check my 50 cup stuff. Yes. And you, like anybody though, you kind of get, you start scrolling for a little bit. And I noticed that there was a, I'm not gonna name the brand, but there's a new potato chip that's out there and it's, there's three ingredients.
There's potatoes, organic salt, and beef tallow. So they're cooked in tallow. Which is no seed oil. And I'm saying, wow, we finally got a chip that's gonna work. Yeah. So for two, four to five ounces of bag, two bags, four to five ounces of these potato chips, $50, are you kidding me? $50 for potato chips to sit down to watch a football game and eat potato chips and 50 bucks.
[00:12:00] So, well that's a deterrent. And so they don't you think other. Side hot take of the seed oil, hot take is that in order to avoid the seed oils, it's gonna cost you more money. And who in this country other than the elites are gonna be able to afford, you know, this type of thing. So it goes back to the ultimate hot take, is that if we truly care about our people, whether you're making $10,000 a year or $10 million a year.
The people on the bottom rung are gonna be, they have to eat these foods that are. No matter how they're promoted are simply not good for you because they're loaded with these seed oils, which does explain the obesity issue when it comes to those on the lower end of the autoimmunes obesity, the whole works.
Yeah, absolutely correct. Well, is it the process itself of this talo, is it really cost that much or is it just a lack of competition? I mean, if more people, more companies said, Hey, listen, there's a market out [00:13:00] there, there's a ton of gyms out there. Paying attention, would that bring the price down?
I mean, eventually it could. I mean, yeah, tallow, obviously it's a beef byproduct, right? So if you're processing, you know, meat, then you're certainly gonna have the tallow. The problem is there's probably no market for it, so therefore very few people do it. So, you know, there's not a lot of, probably not a lot of demand for it, and there's very limited supply.
So, yeah. So, and then this is the, you know, new company probably trying to capture a, a specific market because it's. Gonna be way better for you than the typical potato chip that's cooked in seed oil, then sure. You know, they're gonna get a premium for it at this point in time. Well, hats off to you and Robert Kennedy too, who's really kind of No, I'm serious.
He's, there's a lot of people who initially thought he was kind of crazy about a lot of this stuff. Right. And. Lo and behold, you're, you're finding that our population is getting less healthy. Our life expectancy is declining, and I'm not gonna blame it all on seed oil, but it is a part of the problem. Is it not?[00:14:00]
Yeah. I mean, yeah. It's, it's it's, it's, it's like, like we talked about last podcast. It's, it's a, I think the intentions are maybe good because, you know, they, technology and, and through, you know, manufacturing practices, they found a way to. Mass produced food to keep it fresher longer. Mm-Hmm. To make it taste better.
Right. To make it more moist, you know, but there's always a downside to that. And it just goes back to ultimately, you know, you're moving away from this local food supply process to this basically centralized, you know, global, you know, network of food, which then rolls into our, our casual dining and our, our restaurants in general.
So. There's an app out there and it's called, there's many apps by the way, but this one I'm using right now, now you get a seven day free trial, and then you gotta pay after that. So I'm probably just gonna use it for seven days because I, I find the app a little bit difficult to navigate. [00:15:00] Yes. But it's very informative.
It's called SOS. Hmm. Right. And basically what will it do? It gives you a map of where you're located and then it tells you based on the criteria you put in. So I put in, I want organic I put in no seed oils. They ask if you're gluten-free, not gluten-free, et cetera, et cetera. Go through maybe seven or eight different answers to questions.
But I, I prefer not gluten, but I, I can eat gluten, so it's not a big deal, but I put in gluten just for the heck of it to see what will come up. Right. Right. So I enjoy Chipotle every once in a while. Right. I think it's a healthy, casual dining, fast food option compared to. Wendy's or McDonald's or Bojangles or whatever.
Well, I put in old Chipotle in the SOS and I got the skull and crossbones and the deep red, you know shameful dining as, as they put it [00:16:00] experience. So, you know, go there at your own risk, so to speak. And I was crushed. So for the heck of it, I said, well, let see what Chick-fil-A, you know, looks like Same thing, shameful dining.
No, no, not Chick-fil-A chips, believe it or not. Wow. And I, I didn't even want to go to McDonald's because I'm sure that's gonna be terrible. Oh. Now I will say in the old days, in the eighties up until I think maybe mid eighties french fries were cooked. That's why they tasted so good. They were cooked in tallow.
And all fat. I didn't know that. Yeah. And then the American Heart Association and the health community in general. Mm-Hmm. Now that I'm older, you always follow the money now. Right. But they basically forced McDonald's to cook their french fries and vegetable oil. So basically they're cooked in seed oil now, and they tried to mimic the taste of the previously cooked french fries and beef.
So not only is it cooked in seed oil, but there's probably also a lot of flavonoids that [00:17:00] are put in to make sure it tastes similar to what it was before. This is crazy. Isn't the Heart Association a group of people wanting to keep your heart healthy? Sure. Okay, but let's, but I'm not, I'm confused. You can see.
But no, if, if we don't, if all of us have healthy hearts that we don't need the American Heart Association anymore. That is so true. Right. So maybe there's incentive to, I don't know who, I'm not gonna, I don't wanna get banned by YouTube. I, I just, let's No, no, no. But say if some of these diseases go away, we don't need these associations anymore.
Well, that's true. And that would be a good thing. I would think that's what they're striving for, but probably not. I don't know who police this. I mean, if you didn't do it and we do this podcast, I wouldn't know this stuff. And I, and I, we've already talked about the FDA and how. Confused. They may be in, in regarding how they grade certain drugs and foods.
This is very difficult for a person like me, Jim, who's, well, you look at me, I'm, I'm not living [00:18:00] as healthy as I should, but if I wanted to, it's very difficult thing to do. It really is. Well, I guess you have to be disciplined. Well, yeah. True. We'll get to that in a second. But I think the, I think the only piece of advice I probably would give everybody, which I'm giving to myself as well, is that it's almost, you can't avoid this stuff unless you literally eat every single meal at home and you even then, and well, you can't eat anything outta a box or a bag.
So I mean, you literally have to go to the grocery store, shop on the outside edges. Really look at all the ingredients, but if you're gonna buy vegetables, you're gonna buy an actual potato with no pesticides in it. Good luck. But you could probably find one that has a little bit of pesticide in it. 'cause it's organic, but you never know.
The pesticide could blow through the air from the one farm down the street next to it's in the soil, whatever. But there's only so much you can do as a human. Right. But you know, you're, other than that, I [00:19:00] mean, I, in my 50 cups days of having retail. We also serve food. And I know where we got our food from.
You know, we try to go as healthy as possible, but it's coming in a box from a, from a food supplier and it's coming in a truck. And now yeah, there's fresh ingredients within that box, but it's packed in plastic and everything else. You're gonna get seed oils no matter where you go to dine. I mean, that's the bottom line.
So whether os isn't your app, but there are other other apps out there, and if you really are serious about it then I. Try to pick your your restaurant that's got less seed oils than others. But the only way you can truly avoid it is if you, you know, just don't eat out and cook from home. You know, there was, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt, but there was a time that our, our science, maybe there wasn't a time and I just believe there was a time that science would be provide the roadmap.
They would test these things and they would let you know and. That doesn't seem to be happening at [00:20:00] all. Yeah, well it's, you know what, but what's, what do they want the scientists to do? You know, if I'm a food company, I want the scientists to figure out technology where I can feed as many people as possible, generate as much revenue as possible.
Mm-hmm. And generate as much profit as possible. Right. Right. So if that's the goal, then they're gonna go ahead and they're gonna figure that out. You know, if my mm-Hmm. Intention is if I'm the F fda, for example, or if I'm the government, Hey. We need healthy people in our country because if you're unhealthy, I can't recruit for the army, the military, I can't get people to come work for my big, bloated federal government at some point in time.
'cause they're gonna cost me too much money because they're gonna be on insurance and everything else. You know, so if the directive is go get us healthy again, you know, then they'll do that. 'cause scientists are smart. But it all depends on where. What they're being tasked to do and how much money they're gonna get paid and what the outcomes are gonna be down the road.
That is so true. Did you see the, I don't mean to go off point, but I think it's related. There is, [00:21:00] scientists at Stanford's one of those elite, very smart schools, ate eggs, 20 eggs a day. Mm-Hmm. For a month. Did you see that article? I haven't. The result was, what do you think happened to his cholesterol?
Probably went down. It did go down quite a bit, actually. 20%. Compared to what you have heard about eggs. I guess the point is you really have to think it upon yourself because there's nobody gonna do it for you and Well, that's a great point too, because I don't remember the, the nineties. Oh yeah.
You were terrified to eat an egg. Well, you couldn't eat eggs. I mean, you thought your heart would blow up, blow it outta your chest. Yeah. So you cup of coffee and eggs and man, you were dead right in a week. Meanwhile, I had a friend whose father lived to be, I think 88 and every day when we were growing up.
He would have bacon and eggs for breakfast, and I'm thinking, well, how come that guy's still alive? And I'm like, starving myself to death, only eating two eggs a week. I don't get it. Yeah, I know. Well, I mean the older you get [00:22:00] the, I think. It's only natural you begin to really think about health. Maybe when you're younger it's, it's, although you have a different group of people coming up now, they are more health conscious.
But so it's good that you bring these things up and that there are apps and people at least trying make. Yeah. And two more quick points on this and we'll move on, but so I am a, like I said, I love nuts. Peanuts, cashews, for example. You gotta go dry roasted, you can't go. Just buy regular nuts.
You gotta buy 'em dry roasted. Then you gotta look at the ingredients. 'cause some of the companies will also add stuff in the dry roasting, the ingredient list as well. So just be careful. But they are out there. But you want dry or you want raw. You don't want anything that's been cooked. And the second thing is I did have one listener reach out to me afterwards.
He's got kids in elementary school and he said, man, I listened to you. I cannot believe. What my kids were eating and their hot [00:23:00] lunches. And since then, we no longer allow 'em to eat lunch in the school. So, believe it or not, we do have one listener that's Well, I, we've actually been, it better make a change.
That's great. And you, you've actually reached out and there has been change that gotta make you feel good. [00:24:00] You wanna talk about discipline now? Something that. I think it's an acquired quality and and what it means. Yeah. So I didn't make up this, this phrase, but I think it was Jocko Willick who was a, a marine commander who now is a podcast.
And he was on Joe Rogan years ago and he wrote a leadership book and he talked about discipline equals freedom. And when I heard that phrase, it. It struck me. And you know, and as he explained it a little bit more, and as I thought about it, you know post listening, I realized that if you have discipline in your life, you therefore then have freedom, which means you have more choices.
So two weeks ago, I'm in Colorado. And I had an opportunity to do a fourteener. And for those, that hike, oh, fourteener is kind of a big [00:25:00] deal. It is, you know, you're up over the reline, you're at 14,000 plus feet, it's hard to breathe, blah, blah, blah. And there's this mountain out there and we had a family vacation after a wedding.
So my two daughters and my son, my other son couldn't go 'cause he had to watch his twins. But the three of us, along with their spouses, headed up the MO at Mountain one morning and, it was fun, but it was brutally hard and. I, there wasn't that many of us on the mountain. And the weather was sunny, but it was these Gulf horse winds and the windchill was probably in the twenties.
And of course I wasn't appropriately dressed. That's a different story. But anyhow as I'm walking up this mountain and I'm gasping for air and part of me is annoyed that I'm actually doing this thing, 'cause I'm like, I could just be down at. You know, 9,000 feet and enjoying life at this point in time.
But I'm watching my three, two kids, my one [00:26:00] kid drop back a little bit, but I'm watching my other two kids and they're like, Jack rabbits going up this thing. And they're young. But, I got to the top and I was grateful for their support. My face was frozen when I got to the top. I couldn't talk.
My daughter thought I was having a stroke, and I said, no, I'm fine. I just had a hawk. My hands were numb 'cause I didn't have any gloves. And, so I had a, thankfully a extra layer of clothes in my backpack. So I put it on, and then immediately we started walking down the mountain and my face easier going down, my face on froze, I could speak again, but as I was going down the mountain, I, I, I just remembered that statement again.
Discipline equals freedom. And for me, you know obviously I care a lot about health and, you know, I've been an advocate of exercise for a long period of a lot time in my life and at my age. I was grateful that I had the discipline enough because then I could make this choice, oh, to either go up this mountain or not go up the mountain.
And and there's very few of [00:27:00] us that could, that could get up this mountain and back down no matter what age you are. And I think a lot of that has to do with, you know, the discipline that you have in your life. So then it comes to seed oils. And food in general, it's the same thing. Do you want to have choices in your life later on that you could choose now to fix so you're not in a situation later on where those choices have been taken away from you?
That is such a great point. You know, if we go travel, for example, you know, you see these giant buses with all the tourists are in the buses. They drive up to the thing, they get out, take their pictures, they walk around for a little while. And then they leave. Well, I don't wanna be in a bus, right? Yeah.
I wanna actually ride a bike up to that venue. I wanna walk around for as long as I want, not have some bus driver tell me time to get back on the bus. So it's the same thing, but I, but certain people can't do that because they're of age and they didn't [00:28:00] have the discipline in the past to be able to make those choices now.
And those are people actually that have some choices 'cause they could actually travel. A lot of people. Are so unhealthy they can't even travel anymore. So now they have to get on TV and watch, you know, what, what does Greece look like? Or what does France look like? Oh, that is so true. Yeah. As opposed to being able to actually, actually do that themselves.
Right. So that's what I, I took from that and that's why I'm grateful that I still have choices. I would encourage all of you, especially around this whole food thing and this health thing, to really think about the fact, can you be disciplined, you know, to walk away from dining out, let's say 10 times a week and only dining out three times a week.
Can you cook your meals for your kids? Instead of just outsourcing that to, you know, the school or to Uber Eats or to whomever. Because I do think if you could become a little bit more disciplined with those things, then I think you're gonna be [00:29:00] better off in life. Now, the negative part of me not following through for my discipline on the 50 Cups piece of it is, you know, I wasn't disciplined enough on the retail side of the business.
I. And, you know, as a result, you know, that added a lot of stress, created a lot of anxiety for not only me, but my staff over time. And you know, lesson learned there. If I look back on it now, it had, we could have done really well, but I just wasn't disciplined enough and didn't have the desire to.
You know, really make retail work. That's why I've shifted to online at this point in time. So, I mean, no matter what in your life, you're not gonna be brutally disciplined in everything that you do. Hopefully you can be in most cases, but look at those little things that, you know, whether it has, may not have anything to do with health.
It may be finance, it may be, you know, the extra drink on the weekend. It may be you know, your job, you know, but whatever it is, you know, really focus on am I actually disciplined in what I'm doing right now? Because if you are. [00:30:00] Then you'll be able to have choices, a new job, a new boss a new career, a new investment, whatever that may be.
That's a great point. I hadn't thought about that. It gives you that carrot at the end of the stick, so to speak. Sometimes discipline isn't very fun. I. You know, whether it's eating right or quitting smoking and, knowing that ultimately it gives you a choice rather than do I get out of the recliner or should I have someone get it for me?
You would like a plethora of choices, and I, I can see where the discipline gives you just that. The other thing too, a simple thing. I'd advise you to watch the Red Zone on Sunday for football. That way you can get all the games and there's no commercials as opposed to sitting around for three hours waiting for one game.
Oh, that is good. And then you can munch on those $50 potato chips. Exactly. That would be awesome. And the dry roasted peanuts. That's right. Hey, do the taste. Do they taste the same? Have you bought a bag yet? Yeah, they pretty much taste the same. Do. See, I knew he would've bought a $50 bag. I knew it. No, no, no.
I didn't buy the chips. No, IM talking about the, [00:31:00] the cashews and the peanuts. Okay. Yeah, they taste the same. So you aren't disciplined. Dude, the chips, they should taste like gold. Whatever gold tastes like you know, if it's 50 bucks, $50 for two four ounce bags. Yeah. Well, I gotta tell you is since we just have a quick pause, tea is delicious.
I think. No seed oil. There really is. It's no seed oil and it's actually. The warm version versus the cold. It's delightful. It really is. I'm really enjoying it. We're on kind of a food thing here a little bit. I see baby food and what could be bad with baby food? I mean, who would try to kill a baby, Jim, with bad baby food?
So it can't be bad. What is it? You have a favorite baby food you wanna talk about? Favorite, memory of baby food? So I have two grand. I have no idea what you wanna do with it. I have two grandkids right now. Yeah. And thankfully their parents are they're also very into health and feed their kids very little processed food at this point in time.
But I, you know, I've [00:32:00] talked about this. Not on podcasts before, but like, as a, a newborn, you know, the goal is to obviously have that newborn grow. Mm-Hmm. Brain health, physical health, et cetera, et cetera. Heart health, the whole deal. And what is it in our, in our, our food industry, especially on the baby food industry, has been, you know, highly commoditized.
You know, in the last, you know, 50 to a hundred years, even when I was a kid. You know, I ate baby food. Right, right. That little jar at a glass jar. Yes. Sometimes in a plastic jar, which is worse for you than a glass jar. So the I started looking into it and, the amount of I. Chemicals. I'm trying to find it here 'cause I had it and it disappeared on my, oh, that's right.
So the chemicals, chemicals baby food now and baby food is unbelievable that our little toddlers are getting. And [00:33:00] so Gerber, for example, has a natural apple product now that there's this independent nonprofit out there called clean label project.org. Okay. And they rate all the baby foods and, they'll rate be beverages. They'll also rate cleaning and food and health and fitness and other ingredients as well. But they so if you get this clean label, yeah. And I, I will say that I've not done a ton of release research on the Clean Label project.
Nonprofits. I don't know where they're getting their funding from, but you know, if you look at just the website for example, there are certain labels that they'll, you might, you probably have to pay for it, but you'll get a label that says, basically your stuff is pretty clean. Okay, so this one, product is clean for the most part.
It's got apples in it and it has water in it, and it has exor, oric acid, vitamin C. And I'm thinking, okay vitamin C, that that's good [00:34:00] for you, right? Yeah. And so I'm like, well, lemme look up oric acid. I knew you would look it up and now I know there's a but to this. Go ahead. And it's, it's, you know, it's, first of all, it's manufactured.
70% of theoric acid in the world is manufactured in China. Oh, correct. Right. Mm-Hmm. Secondly, yes, exor acid is synthetic vitamin C. But it's derived from corn. Okay. All right. So the question then becomes, well, is the corn organic or is it industrialized corn? Right, right. Corporate farming, for example.
Yeah. My guess is if China's making 70% of theoric acid in the world, Mm-Hmm. Then it's probably being mass produced, shipped over to China to be processed. And absorb and converted into absorb acid, which then gets popped back into our vitamins Mm-Hmm. [00:35:00] Or popped back into, in this case, baby food, some baby food.
And so we're even this one little label that's one little natural product that's labeled clean by this company technically. One could argue is probably not 100% clean. Right? Right. I agree with that. So then they have this graph basically that shows what they found in baby food and 70% of the baby food had aluminum in it.
30% had cain in it. I think 20% had bromide in it. I mean, these are all not good for you. Chemicals that are in the baby food, this our FDA. There are. Well, Jim, I mean, seriously, you know, it's not good. Surely they, I mean, we're talking about babies. I know babies, our little kids. It's not like an 8-year-old guy you're trying to knock off.
It's a baby. They should start off healthy. [00:36:00] I agree. And even I know those those items are, are dangerous. But the sad thing is when a, a parent who's diligent out there that goes to buy the, the most natural baby food possible, it's still gonna be a. Most in all cases that I've found, at least so far, and I've not scoured every single shelf everywhere, but there's still gonna be something in there that's out of a lab that's being processed, and that's unfair to our kids.
Well, it is. You know, I grew up very naively trusting that. We had these government agencies, for instance, like the FDA, that was in essentially created to protect the consumer from things like this. Mom and dad everyday. Mom and dads can't, can't, I don't think they can take it upon themselves to police it.
They're gonna have to, but where do you find a time to police everything you eat? And then we're not even talking about the [00:37:00] medical field where the kids are subjected to vaccines and all kinds of other things. For people who were watching, they probably saw, I just deflated when you started going down the list of stuff in baby food.
And I, and I feel kind of helpless. I don't really know what the average guy can do except listen to your podcast and IRTI mean, that's what's so ridiculous about this whole thing, thing. It's, that's why people, that's why I, I get so worked up sometimes is you literally have to be vigilant every minute of every single day.
Based on what you care about. So if I care about health in this case, then I gotta, like, whatever I do, I gotta, I gotta do research on what's gonna go into my body. Who wants to do that? Right? Well, who's capable of doing that, right? Is if you have, if you're a working class family, you know where you got mom and dad both working to get ahead and to support their family.
And they have, there's three kids, [00:38:00] and they're busy all day long and they got homework and they got, you know, shuttle kids to practice and you know, the food part of it's probably the last thing they're gonna think about because they're trusting. Yes. Big word. Trusting that whatever they're buying is actually, it's labeled as good for you when in reality it's not.
And you know, so now you gotta be, it's kind of like. I dunno if you've ever donated to a cause. Sure. And you love this cause you think it's great, and then suddenly you find out that half your money is going to the CEO's pocket or it's going to another part of the cause that is actually something you're against.
Right? And you feel violated. Yes. You feel like, wait a second, you know, I thought I was saving whales. You know, it turns out, you know half the whales are being slaughtered so the oil can go to. Into sunscreen, fool. I'm making it up. So you feel violated. Yes. It's the same thing with food. You feel like you gotta be on your [00:39:00] game 24 7 and you know, it, it's, it's, it's frustrating.
And, and to your point, why isn't our regulatory bodies protecting us? Or get rid 'em? They get rid of 'em and let's just go for it. And, you know, eventually you'll catch on. But I, we, you know, this, the average American reads at an eighth grade level. Alright? And it's, it's not their fault. That's just the way it is.
And there's another 50 million who read at a third grade level. How are you, how do you expect those individuals to pick up a bottle or a, a, a jar of anything and look at the words. I can't pronounce the words and and do research, and I think the industry and maybe the government realize that and take advantage of that.
Is that just because I'm a cynic or are you feeling the same way? No, I think it's, I think it's true. And I think, as I said earlier too, in our country, the FDA just simply has to [00:40:00] prove that it doesn't harm you in the. Ounces or the amount you're getting per serving, whatever that mythical serving is, right?
So when you get a bag of potato chips, for example, and it says, oh, they're only 170 calories. Well, the serving size isn't the bag. It's like four chips. It is, right? Yes. So that's how, what, that's the only thing they have to prove now in Europe, you actually have to prove that it's good for you. When it goes into your body way, think it also doesn't do harm way.
That that's a pretty good way. And that's a big difference between the Europe body, European body, and our body. And that's why people in Europe are, for the most part, more healthy than they are here. Well, and you've pointed it out in the earlier hot take on the seed oils. I mean, it may be good in one serving, but it.
It's in everything. Correct? I mean, do they factor that in? I don't know that they do. So in essence, they're kind of a useless body right now. They're really not providing the kind of information that average mom and [00:41:00] dad need. Yeah. So if you're a kid and you get fed, a bowl of Cheerios in the morning, you got your seed oils.
Mm-Hmm. Right? Maybe you got a little side honey bun. Get more seed aisles. Go to school. Mom kisses goodbye. And you go to lunch over there. And that's the. Let's say it's a, some kind of Mexican, you know, lunch or it's a cheeseburger or it's pizza, bang, you got more seed oils, right? Right. And then let's say you're coming home from soccer practice.
Your parents don't have enough time to cook you dinner, so we're gonna get Chipotle and bring it in tonight thinking you're eating healthy and you've just been loaded up with probably 30 to one seed oil to, excuse me, omega sixes to omega threes. And you do that four or five days a week. I mean, you're assaulting your body.
You're killing yourself, man. I don't know what to say about that other than it's frightening when you, when you finally realize what's going on. I mean, I guess I'm, when I found out the food pyramid was just a joke, you know, [00:42:00] at the time. I remember as a kid, well, it's the government, it's the food pyramid.
Again, it comes back to trust. And I think one thing I've learned from you is don't trust anybody. Yeah. You're gonna have to take it upon yourself. Or move to Montana, something like that. Get a farm and hunt and live off the grid or something. I do think there's hope though, to check. I hope so. Because I, I think there's a, I mean, this Maha movement, I suggest you follow it.
It's not political. It's, it's simply, Hey, it's an awakening. You know, it's, it's what we're talking about today, like on thousands of steroids. I mean, it's. It's, you know, they're, they are a force and it's gonna get bigger and bigger over time. And I think people are gonna start taking back their health, you know, going forward.
I hope so. It'll be interesting to see if they get pushback and who it's from. They will, they will. I mean, you'll be fighting big pharma and big big food, so Sure, there's definitely gonna get pushback, but eventually if people stop buying the products, big food will change. Right, exactly. Because they wanna make money at the end of the day.
That's right. [00:43:00] And, you know, if their Cheerios sit on the shelf. And they're not making money. They're gonna change the ingredients. So, alright. On a So that's positive. It is positive. We're moving in the right direction. I'm very confident, I believe in the American people. We're going to, we're gonna do great and hopefully we'll buy some tea at some point in time.
I drink to that. But yeah, I was in Montana a few weeks ago for a wedding and. It was in Bozeman, actually. And wedding was great. Great time with the family. All that good stuff. Weather was good. It rained a little bit, but that was fine. Anyhow, on Sunday my wife and I go to church along with my son, and, it was phenomenal.
Not because the church service is great, but. I don't even know what the homily was that day because I was too busy looking at everybody else in the church really. First of all, it was crowded. Yes. So I felt really good. 'cause some churches nobody goes to anymore. That's true. But secondly, it was loaded at eight o'clock in the morning with [00:44:00] families, with young parents, with three to four kids a pop.
Not one. It was loud. Kids were crying every once in a while. Kids were climbing all over their parents. Like, it was great entertainment for me. I love to see kids but it, I just felt like reinvigorated. I felt like, wow, you know, we're having kids, we're having families, we're going to church.
And I think no matter what you believe, whether you're, you know, you're a believer, you're not a believer, you need to have some type of grounding in your life. And the fact that these. People were having families and you know, they were, they were together. They were worshiping together. They probably went to breakfast afterwards together, hopefully not to a restaurant.
But they, it just felt great. And I just felt like, man, this is the way, this is a microcosm of society. And I don't [00:45:00] wanna go back to the way we were. 'cause I think we always progress, right? But we, there are certain tenets you have to have no matter what. That's right. Time of life you've lived in, in, in the past.
And, obviously the family is probably the most important part of, you know, us being a great society. And if we don't have that, then we're not gonna, we're not gonna make it. And it was good to see that, that, and having some core values, in this case, the church itself. And again, whether you believe or not is, is entirely up to you, but to see that people have embraced that because I've been to a lot of other churches that people have just fallen away and someday maybe we can talk about it, but it's you, you don't feel inspired, do you?
When you're going to a half empty church and it's. Filled with people who really need to go to church. 'cause they're kind of at the end of the the journey, if you know what I mean. Yeah. Old people. Yeah. A bunch of old people. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. This was like, I felt like I was like in a time warp in a way, but I knew I wasn't.
But it was just great to see, you know, [00:46:00] the, the, the crowd and the, the types of people that were there that day. So I'm re rejuvenated. Good. I think we're on this. This health movement, and I think maybe there's an Awakening Jim taking place. Yeah, I think so. I'm, I'm very optimistic and I think if we just simply stay away from the big cities I think the rest of the best of the country is moving in a different direction at this point in time.
Well, I hope so. And you know, I guess there's really only one final thing I'd like to know is the tea's delicious. But, for people who are listening and watching, how would they get a glass of this delicious tea? How would they do that? Well, they can just go to 50 cups tea.com and order away free shipping over $40.
I promise you I will be disciplined to revise the website tonight 'cause we usually have a monthly special. Last month we gave a. Kento tea pot away, which is great for loose leaf tea. [00:47:00] So stay tuned on what the surprise will be for September and no seed oil. October, I'm sorry. Yeah. And no seed oils.
Yeah. Beautiful man, as always on the earth. I love the tea and I love your hot takes. Absolutely love 'em. I appreciate you, including me. Thank you, Jim. Thank you, bill. Have a great day