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What is As We Art?

Need a dose of creativity and accountability? Hosts Monica and Candace are prioritizing ART and talking about it in a real way. One take, no script, and no filters… just two humans inviting listeners in for a fun weekly chat about what they’re making now and what is inspiring them.

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Speaker 1
And. No! We're off.

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Speaker 2
We're off. Dented it up.

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Speaker 1
Yeah. Hello, hello. Welcome to. As we Art. It's a podcast. It's a YouTube channel. We're talking art. We're talking inspirational.

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Speaker 2
Yes. I'm Candice.

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Speaker 1
I'm Monica. We're so glad you're here.

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Speaker 2
Yeah. We're going to talk about what we're creating, what's inspiring us. And we want to hear from you. What are you creating and what's inspiring you?

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Speaker 1
Yeah, we mean it. You know, we come here every week and talk about our projects and what's happening. And when we hear from you, it's so inspiring. We've heard from a few people this week. It's been nice to know what other people are working on and what's motivating them.

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Speaker 2
To be so creative. Yeah, y'all are y'all.

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Speaker 1
Yeah. I love the word y'all.

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Speaker 2
Yes. It's great. It's inclusive. I don't think the South meant to be inclusive with that word, but true.

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Speaker 1
We're in New England where y'all is not very common.

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Speaker 2
No, no, but.

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Speaker 1
I had an opportunity to live down south, the southern part of the United States, at two different points in my life. And y'all was very much part of part of, every day vernacular is. That's right. Yeah. I'm trying to sound fancy. I heard a mother yelling at her child once, and it was one child and she was yelling and she said, hold on.

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Speaker 1
She said, y'all come back here. I'm fixing to yell at you. She called her one child, y'all, and said she was fixing to yell at them while yelling.

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Speaker 2
While yelling? That's beautiful.

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Speaker 1
But fixing was pronounced and I'm fitting to yell at you or something. It was really funny. I love I love different ways of pronouncing English.

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Speaker 2
Did you just say pronouncing.

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Speaker 1
For now pronounced that.

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Speaker 2
Pronouncing it.

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Speaker 1
Unknown or enunciate? Pronounce? Yeah. Pronouncing different English. It's awesome. We bring on the accents, different parts of the country. It's so fun. And it was fun to live down there and here. And I started using GA. It was great. It's when I was coaching teenagers, rowing, where sometimes they would show up without sneakers and their cowboy boots still in a place where your sneakers now.

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Speaker 1
So you kind of do land training in those. Okay. Let's talk. All right.

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Speaker 2
All right. Let's do it. What did you work on this week?

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Speaker 1
Monica I'm sorry, I just noticed I'm in a nice, bright spring color, and you're in all black.

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Speaker 2
I'm in morning.

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Speaker 1
Black long sleeve. Not even a graphic T that's different for you.

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Speaker 2
I know, I'm just trying to blend.

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Speaker 1
You do? Re actually, you're all black long sleeve. If you're just listening on the podcast, by the way, you are missing out. So we're glad you're listening. But if you're watching on YouTube, you'll see that Candace is in a long sleeve black waffle knit. Anyway, it reminds me of my very young elementary school days where I was, helping as a puppeteer.

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Speaker 1
And you look like a puppeteer.

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Speaker 2
What do you mean, puppeteer? I need more information.

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Speaker 1
Well, my grandmother, who was an artist, she's my inspiration this week. I've been thinking about her, but I forgot about the puppeteering part of it. She would make puppets by hand. All these hand puppets and stick puppets and marionette puppets and actually put on puppet shows locally. Like, this is sounding really weird. As I say it.

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Speaker 2
It sounds very weird, but fun. Where would she put on puppet shows?

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Speaker 1
Oh my God. So she. It was called the Masked Puppeteers, the Masked Masked Mask.

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Speaker 2
Because she didn't know if you said masks or masked.

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Speaker 1
Mask to.

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Speaker 2
Mask it to.

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Speaker 1
She may. She was an artist. Among other mediums. She made life casts of people's faces and hands. And so the the masks that she made, even for her puppets, were sometimes based on people's real faces. Thinking about it now, I can't believe I'm talking about this. So she had this big set up with curtains. This. I'm not talking like a little kids puppet show that's a few feet wide.

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Speaker 1
This thing was a stage, and she would go and set it up in auditoriums, mostly at elementary schools. But also like at other types of schools, nursing homes. And when I was old enough, like first grade, I got to wear a black turtleneck and, and black gloves and be behind the scenes helping, like, hand her props at certain times.

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Speaker 1
My father was, a puppeteer with her, and they would put on these incredible shows wearing all black. So that's it. Reminds me of.

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Speaker 2
Beautiful. I always feel like Danny Kaye in White Christmas when he does the choreography number. He's in all black. Yeah.

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Speaker 1
In my imagine. Does he have a beret?

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Speaker 2
He has a beret on. Yes, I skipped the beret.

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Speaker 1
Yes, I have a hat on.

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Speaker 2
Non beret. Yeah.

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Speaker 1
Oh gosh. The black. Yep. Puppet shows. It's amazing. The thing about my I'm just going to say this. She was such an artist and so experimental, but she didn't have a good read on gearing her shows for young children versus adult. So it was the same show and they were scary. These were not like these puppet shows.

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Speaker 1
I'm thinking about it now, like based on like Edgar Allan Poe's Tell-Tale heart.

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Speaker 2
Oh my.

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Speaker 1
God. And she had an Edgar Allan Poe puppet. She did The Raven. She had some, some gory stuff happening, like scary stuff happening on these in these puppet shows. And it was just totally normal. And when I was a little kid, this was I didn't know how weird we were as a family, because you don't know when you're ever do.

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Speaker 2
Yeah.

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Speaker 1
And I was like, proud to be part of the puppet show that was being put on in the school or nursing home or, or community center. But I'm thinking about it now. Like my grandmother, we look forward to the fear that she would make them scream. I mean, and whether you're a little kid that scared or an old person, that kind of shit your pants if you're that scared.

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Speaker 1
And she had this one trick in the puppet show, I'm sorry, I'm going off on this.

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Speaker 2
That's amazing.

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Speaker 1
Remember, I could.

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Speaker 2
Listen to a whole episode about the.

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Speaker 1
Puppet show. I never even talk about this. Even with you. I haven't even told you this. Well, so she had, like, a trunk with, like, 30 puppets, and she'd make a new story every year. And every year she'd go and do her rounds of puppet shows, like as a side hobby on weekends or week, weekdays, because it was when school was in session.

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Speaker 1
Anyway, one of the big tricks at the end was one of the puppets she had was the Devil. What do.

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Speaker 2
You do.

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Speaker 1
To I mean, it was scary. Red face, red horns, Life-Size face, and my dad would play the devil puppet. And so we had one hand in the puppet and the other hand was his glove with like nails, and he'd be this devil and she'd be the other puppet or whatever, and I'd be handing them props. And at one point it was, I had a really important role behind this.

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Speaker 2
Yes, yes. Hence the all black.

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Speaker 1
But the big moment where he, without the audience knowing, he hands off this puppet to my grandmother and she has the same gloved hand. So she continues to make movements with this puppet, and I hand him a flashlight, which he turns on right under his chin. It's totally pitch dark in the room for this scene, and he has put on a duplicate mask that matches the puppet, the devil puppet.

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Speaker 1
And as he is now putting on this flashlight and about to scare the audience by walking out from behind, my grandmother lowers the devil puppet and here comes this lifesize devil. And the audience would freak. I mean, they would be so scared because he's just. Just in a flashlight. Same exact mask. And he's like, oh my God.

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Speaker 2
I mean, all.

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Speaker 1
Ladies at the nursing home, our little kit would. Principals, teachers. It didn't matter. My grandmother like relished this moment of the scream anyway.

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Speaker 2
So it's amazing.

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Speaker 1
Why are we getting a oh, because you are.

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Speaker 2
But that's incredible. I would have been all about it as a kid. What do you mean scary puppet show would about my jam? I would have been so.

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Speaker 1
Happy to.

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Speaker 2
Watch it.

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Speaker 1
Not to be.

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Speaker 2
Part of participate. Okay, I might have been able to be a prop handler, but no.

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Speaker 1
Well, they interacted with the audience. These puppets would, like talk to the audience and interact with them. If anyone dared like sneeze or cough, they'd be like, do you need a tissue? Like the puppets? Were they scared? The audience like, I can't. This was.

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Speaker 2
So normal. In New England, there is now an adult population with like shared trauma from this devil and a puppet show 100%.

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Speaker 1
There are people talking to therapists about my grandmother because she definitely aimed to please by being by scaring people. It was really funny. Beautiful.

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Speaker 2
We would have been very good friends.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, I definitely I had some important work behind the scenes. The black turtleneck was a key part of the outfit and I was proud. Like when they come to do the puppet show at the school, I'd be like, yes. But by the time I was older, like fourth or fifth grade, I'm like mortified. I'm like, no, I don't know.

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Speaker 2
Those weirdos. No school programs are full. No more. No more room for you folks. What were the props you would hand them?

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Speaker 1
Well, I so I had some of the I don't remember all the props and storylines would change, but one of the props I definitely remember was this egg. Just a single little egg. And it looked real. But it was made out of, foam like it was squishy. It was. It was cute. I like touching it, but the puppet would would convince the other puppet on on stage that it's just a prop.

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Speaker 1
Hey, look, you could squish it. It's just a prop egg. Here, watch. When I put it against my forehead and nothing happens, it's a squishy egg. And so one of my important jobs was to hand off the real.

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Speaker 2
Egg.

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Speaker 1
Before the other puppets about to try it, thinking it's the prop. So now the other puppet gets this egg and does the squish against the head, and lo and behold, a real egg goes into the puppet's hair. And of course, the audience laughs. But I remember I had to hand off that there was some storyline with a lot of bat puppets and she had hand puppets and marionettes, but the bats were on these like two sticks.

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Speaker 1
And I was a little kid, like, she's like, don't worry about how awkward they are, because bats look demented when they're flying, like, make it real. And so I'm like, behind the scenes of all these bats, like doing the stick puppets, dumpy flapping. Yeah. I had black gloves and a black turtleneck so you couldn't see in my heads behind a curtain.

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Speaker 1
It's amazing. I can't even believe I'm remembering all this. I really forgot about these puppet shows, but.

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Speaker 2
I fully expect a puppet show for my next birthday. I'm just letting you know.

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Speaker 1
No, her puppets didn't make it. Over the years, we found all of her puppets. You know, after she died in a big trunk in the basement. But some of them had edible, like noodles for their hair. And so, like, mice had got in and went to town on these puppets. Her marionettes lasted some of her marionettes were beautiful, like she had Charlie Chaplin, she had Edgar Allan Poe, she had this hula dancer.

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Speaker 1
So she had some really cool marionettes that, when she died, she was really well known artists on the, on in the local community. And so people would come over and want like a piece to remember her by. And at the time I'm like, take whatever. So they all went to, they all found new homes. It's just not the mice infested puppet trunk, but the other stuff.

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Speaker 2
That's great.

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Speaker 1
Anyway, that's a lot for just wearing all black. Woo! But you know what? She's been on my mind. And I know we usually start with what art we're working on. But I'll just start with my grandmother. She really has been my inspiration this week. This is an old photo that's going to probably be too shiny for this camera.

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Speaker 2
I think if you kind of hold it down like that's Lucille here.

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Speaker 1
So she was an experimental artist. This is her working in her basement, pouring plaster into something. She was always experimenting. She was a beautiful artist. Sculpture. She made fountains. She did life casts. She had a gallery in Provincetown for several summers in the 60s and into the 70s. And she's just. She was just so fearless. As we've talked about on this podcast, we're trying to come to you every week and talk about what we're doing without the fear.

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Speaker 1
We're trying to experiment, be creative, use our human side. So if there's anything you're working on or that inspires you, she she was one of those fearless artists that totally inspired me to just jump in and try it. It's awesome. And so my inspiration this week is definitely her, and it it will lead to my art, but we'll talk about that in a minute.

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Speaker 1
Nice. You want to start with inspiration to change it up. Yeah.

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Speaker 2
First a cosmic shout out to Lucille.

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Speaker 1
Amazing. She was so awesome. Definitely an inspirational human. A lot of my writing is inspired by her and her stories. And, Yeah, she was. I could do a whole whole series of podcast episodes on her, but we will stop with puppet showing because that's that's sounds amazing. I can't I.

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Speaker 2
Think we should just end this episode because it's not going to get any better than that. That was amazing.

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Speaker 1
Oh my God. Yeah. I mean, it's weird now because I've never I've never people hadn't seen a puppet show up until that point. They haven't seen one since. Like it wasn't like this is a thing that was popular at the time, right?

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Speaker 2
She was playing to the folks that were from the vaudeville era that were in the nursing home.

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Speaker 1
So, yeah, egg on the face.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, that's really funny. Yeah, well, if we're rolling with inspiration, I'll give my inspiration and kind of feeds into it because I got scared.

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Speaker 1
You got what? I got scared. Oh, scared? You don't fright very easily do not?

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Speaker 2
I have like zero jump reflex. And I really like scary movies and scary books. But, I was a little inspired this week by a book I'm currently reading. It is called the Winter people can't remember the author's name to save me, but, I was reading it last night in bed and actually had to like, pause and close the book and do something else for a minute because there was just one scene in it.

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Speaker 2
They gave me the keys, because I was the only one still awake, and it was spooky and the hallway was dark. I feel like my imagination runs wild a little bit more with reading scary things than it does with seeing them.

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Speaker 1
Well, hold on back up. So first of all, we always read out loud. Every night I read part of a book out loud, and then we both turn to our our our own books and read, and I did. I was getting tired. I remember shutting my light off before you.

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Speaker 2
And you. You heard that right? Monica reads out loud to both of us every night. It's adorable.

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Speaker 1
For ten years, I love it. We do a chapter night. We've read.

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Speaker 2
I don't know, tons of.

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Speaker 1
Books, tons of books, but I did shut my light off before you. We usually do around the same time, but I was tired. You were still awake, but. So I know I can't do scary things, but can you give me the gist in like, just a few words? Like what scared you?

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Speaker 2
Eyes peering out from a closet?

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Speaker 1
Oh fuck.

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Speaker 2
But I mean, there was a lot of buildup behind it. But for some reason that that's plenty specific moment. Just it got me and I was like, oh, I need to like, I actually had to get on my phone and scroll for a minute to kind of erase it from my memory before I turn the light off.

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Speaker 1
And the house was quiet.

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Speaker 2
And it was planned. 1230 midnight. 1230.

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Speaker 1
I don't like that.

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Speaker 2
Yeah.

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Speaker 1
But then you said, I think your point. You said you you think you have a little more fear while reading versus seeing or.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, I think for me, if I'm watching something scary, it's almost like, you know, with a horror movie, they try to like scare, move on, scare move on, scare move on. So it's kind of like you don't really have a moment to sit and process afterwards or let your imagination run wild. Yeah, but like reading it, I read it and then I just kept thinking about it while I was reading the next paragraph.

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Speaker 2
So I'm like, you.

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Speaker 1
It that's interesting. I don't like scary things at all, but certainly visually I can't do it. Stays in my brain.

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Speaker 2
Our bed also faces our closet. So at the same time I was like looking at, My.

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Speaker 1
God, I'm not used to you being scared. That's really interesting. Yeah. Yeah. My my father loves scary things. Tried to show me like night of the Living Dead when I was, like, in second grade or third grade. I'm like this. I can't watch this. It was awful. Yeah.

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Speaker 2
No, the living dead is spooky.

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Speaker 1
I mean, he had I also had a previous appreciation for Alfred Hitchcock movies because of him, but, but he also taught me to mute it. If it was too scary, you could press mute. And if you're watching a movie and you don't hear it, it's not as scary for some reason. But with reading, it's your own amount, your own brain.

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Speaker 1
Conjuring up these images and there's no mute button. You have to yes, you have to keep reading.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, that's that's interesting from the soundtrack is kind of what gets your adrenaline going. Yeah. My sister always used to cover her ears during scary movies or scary scenes so that she wouldn't jump because the music and.

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Speaker 1
Sound.

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Speaker 2
Actually makes you have the jump scare.

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Speaker 1
I hate that, so we want to hear from you if you're listening, are you the type that will, like, voluntarily go through a scary haunted house?

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Speaker 2
Love it.

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Speaker 1
Kandice lives for that shit. Or watch scary movies. Knowing like this is going to be unsettling and spooky and disturbing and scary. Like, is that something that is your jam? It's not mine, but I want to know. We just want to know, what people are out there, what their preferences. So you read you read a scary scene and that inspired you.

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Speaker 1
How did that inspire you.

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Speaker 2
To make some spooky art? Okay, yeah. See, I read or see spooky things and I'm like, ooh, yeah, I have ideas. That's awesome. Sees them and she's like, I gotta shut down.

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Speaker 1
I gotta make some flowers. I gotta make a tree, gotta make something out of nature. Something else. That's so funny.

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Speaker 2
Yeah.

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Speaker 1
That's really cool. There was something else that inspired you that I put on the table. We're cleaning. We're doing a lot of spring cleaning, and one of the things we're doing is I keep. Sorry, my hands. And like, a weird claw fist situation this week, because I'm trying to hide the fact that I have this dumb, colorful Band-Aid on my finger.

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Speaker 2
First of all, I love the Band-Aid. It's dinosaur teeth. I know I took one of your Band-Aid tip off for myself, but why do you ever been daytime.

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Speaker 1
From my art. You know, I'm always. This week I was working with that metal mesh, flexible sculpting mesh, and, It's sharp. I need to wear gloves, but that's why my hands like that. But anyway, I brought this book because we've been cleaning out books and some of the old books are used books. You know, we donate to a library or, we turn it to a library.

00:19:20:12 - 00:19:48:00
Speaker 1
They have a shop where they sell them. Yeah, but this one was the binding is broken and it's so old, it's like falling apart. But this book is an encyclopedia of etiquette. From 1920, and it has everything from how to appropriately ride in a carriage, what to wear when you're at a garden party or when you're in mourning, or when you're going missing.

00:19:48:05 - 00:20:02:03
Speaker 1
Yeah, when you're sending out your calling card to the ladies. It's it's really old fashioned and funny, but it's falling apart. And so I was like, we both like what we'll tell them your idea.

00:20:02:05 - 00:20:12:14
Speaker 2
I'm going to print some linocut prints. I lost my train of thought. I'm going to print some linocut prints on different pages, like, yeah, hold them out.

00:20:12:14 - 00:20:15:00
Speaker 1
The up for a box at the theater or.

00:20:15:00 - 00:20:17:24
Speaker 2
Funeral ones. Funeral. Really a piece of me.

00:20:17:24 - 00:20:33:17
Speaker 1
There's a lot of funeral etiquette in here, so I thought that would. I thought your idea was really cool to take some of the carvings you're doing, or make some new ones that are scary. Yeah. Because you talked about doing an anatomical heart. I never say.

00:20:33:17 - 00:20:40:10
Speaker 2
That. In honor of you and your puppet showing, I'm going to do a bat for sure. Oh, good.

00:20:40:13 - 00:20:52:20
Speaker 1
That would be great. And so to put that on some of these pages would be really fun. But the other thing I want to do with some of these pages was I'm still experimenting. If we're moving into art, yeah, we're.

00:20:52:20 - 00:20:53:03
Speaker 2
Moving into.

00:20:53:03 - 00:21:15:22
Speaker 1
Art. It kind of goes into it. I'm experimenting with my, blank, my piece by piece. If you were here last week, you know, I got a 15 by 15 inch piece, white piece of wood. 150 artists were selected to do one square of a gigantic, like, two story reveal. That's going to happen in June. So we don't know.

00:21:15:22 - 00:21:16:22
Speaker 2
The famous painting of the.

00:21:16:22 - 00:21:20:05
Speaker 1
Famous painting. Yeah. So hold on.

00:21:20:08 - 00:21:24:16
Speaker 2
We're grabbing pictures and, square.

00:21:24:18 - 00:21:36:10
Speaker 1
Yeah. So, my square is a lot of greens, shades of green. So as long as I match it with a white triangle at the top. So as long as I match this up, this is.

00:21:36:13 - 00:21:37:13
Speaker 2
Still so they can see.

00:21:37:13 - 00:21:59:06
Speaker 1
It. This is a three by three laminated section of the famous painting that I got. And then this is my, white square. Right. They put holes. They have to be at the top. So you know which one's the top, which which direction, which is really important to do the direction right. So I sketched out a grid it out, to scale.

00:21:59:06 - 00:22:21:19
Speaker 1
And I sketched out my dark greens and lighter greens. But there are some lines, some like seams. It looks like texture. So I'm going to use this sculpting I've been playing around with this, mesh sculpting wire. It almost looks like screen you put on a window, but it's made for artists to craft and, got. It's quite dirty,

00:22:21:22 - 00:22:26:25
Speaker 2
Metal has a tendency to be that way. Solder rolls when we grab them or kind of nails that book.

00:22:26:25 - 00:22:28:19
Speaker 1
My fingers have black on them. Anyway.

00:22:28:22 - 00:22:30:17
Speaker 2
Yummy.

00:22:30:20 - 00:22:51:15
Speaker 1
I'm always a mess. So yeah, I'm playing around with, adhering these. I'm getting these lined up and then painting them all different shades of green. I'll dip them in different once I mix the shades to match, I'm just gonna use acrylic paint. Because I want it to be lightweight. I was. I'm a glass artist. Usually stained glass.

00:22:51:15 - 00:23:10:24
Speaker 1
But this this calls for lighter weight materials. I've been playing around, with how to get some more texture. Because you can have 3D. And I thought in between those peaks and valleys that I'm going to use the sculpting mesh, I might do some book pages, crumpled up and painted.

00:23:10:27 - 00:23:13:21
Speaker 2
Nice to give it a little more depth.

00:23:13:21 - 00:23:14:26
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:23:15:01 - 00:23:15:08
Speaker 2
Nice.

00:23:15:12 - 00:23:26:21
Speaker 1
So we'll see. That's where I am right now. I might, I might experiment with that. I'd hate to waste those good etiquette pages on that, but there are some that there's just so many. There's so many and there's some that might be a little more.

00:23:26:25 - 00:23:29:20
Speaker 2
And there's only so much that we can go through.

00:23:29:23 - 00:23:52:05
Speaker 1
So yeah. Not follow. Yes. Yeah. My grandmother did not follow etiquette. She is on my brain this week. She, got her first job as a teenager. It's called a hostess on the railway and all the women. It was like the stewardess. It's flight attendants. Back in the day. I didn't bring water.

00:23:52:10 - 00:24:01:15
Speaker 2
Oh, no. Shit. Every time you go bring water, something happens. But every time we do bring water, we never need it. So she hated those etiquette books.

00:24:01:15 - 00:24:21:00
Speaker 1
Those etiquette books is what her mother followed and her older sister followed, but she did not follow them. And she lost her job as a railway hostess because she refused to wear a girdle. Nice. And she knew she was losing her job. And so under her uniform on her, what was going to be her last train ride, she wore her bathing suit.

00:24:21:02 - 00:24:44:18
Speaker 1
And when the train pulled in to Provincetown on Cape Cod, she took off the uniform and jumped off the pier. She knew she was losing her job anyway, but yeah, she was just a free spirit. I'm out. Yeah, she's like, watch this. So I'm working on that art. I am mixing up green paint. I'm sculpting with the mesh and trying to figure out what other materials I can use that are lightweight enough.

00:24:44:18 - 00:24:50:10
Speaker 1
That mesh is super sharp. I have little cuts everywhere, which is fine.

00:24:50:12 - 00:24:52:20
Speaker 2
Even though I encouraged you to wear gloves.

00:24:52:23 - 00:25:05:24
Speaker 1
You told me I should and I know I should, and I still might probably not. I know, so what I do is I cut it and I just fold the edges so that I don't have sharp edges. But while folding it can get a little dicey.

00:25:05:27 - 00:25:13:15
Speaker 2
Nope. All right. I'm going to stand behind you. And every time you touch the mesh, I'm going to squirt a lemon on your hands. Yeah.

00:25:13:17 - 00:25:18:11
Speaker 1
Yeah. Safety gear or something. I should I should, embrace a little more, but I don't.

00:25:18:12 - 00:25:26:12
Speaker 2
Totally, because, I mean, if you get an injury and you weren't wearing safety gear, I know it's your own fault with that.

00:25:26:18 - 00:25:47:22
Speaker 1
That, installation, in June of the big 150 square piece that we're going to find out with the big painting is the artists that are participating also get to enter their own piece of art with no parameters other than it has to be 20in by 20in or smaller, to be in an exhibit in the same building.

00:25:47:22 - 00:26:01:26
Speaker 1
So I'm going to use that mesh, I think, to, to create, stained glass octopus. I have it in my mind. I'm going to like, sculpt an octopus that's 3D, add glass to the tentacles and the what are the little circles?

00:26:01:26 - 00:26:05:06
Speaker 2
Sucky things. Suckers, suckers are called.

00:26:05:09 - 00:26:18:20
Speaker 1
Yeah. So I'm going to I'm going to figure out a way to make a 3D octopus that's in my brain right now. So I'm practicing with the mesh to figure that out. But that whole show that all that artwork is due at the end of May. So I have a little over a month.

00:26:18:25 - 00:26:19:10
Speaker 2
Nice.

00:26:19:17 - 00:26:32:20
Speaker 1
So that's what I'm I'm busy working on and I'm just like so excited. I can't even, like, keep up with myself to keep being creative because it gives me energy the more creative I am. Looks great. What art did you work on, Candice?

00:26:32:22 - 00:26:44:25
Speaker 2
I worked on. I printed some more cards of the Blue Heart that I printed a week or two ago. For Brenda. Brenda requested some cards. Thank you. Friend.

00:26:44:27 - 00:26:45:23
Speaker 1
She page. She.

00:26:45:23 - 00:26:53:16
Speaker 2
She did. She's my first paying linocut customer, so thank you. Brenda. That's amazing. That's so.

00:26:53:16 - 00:26:54:18
Speaker 1
Cool. They were always so.

00:26:54:18 - 00:27:10:11
Speaker 2
Fun to make. Yeah, she requested blue hearts and it actually turned out really well. So it was a lot of fun to make. And it's always fun to see people receive your art. It feels really good, so. Thanks, Brenda.

00:27:10:11 - 00:27:20:13
Speaker 1
That's that's so awesome. Yeah. There's smaller. There's the smaller carvings that you do could become card like little cardstock cards if you want. That's so cool. And different colors.

00:27:20:16 - 00:27:39:28
Speaker 2
Different colors. I have lots of colors. And then the other thing I did this week is just, not just I started a sketch, of a linocut I'm going to make of, crystal ball. Ooh, really? If you can't see my hand motion, you're missing out.

00:27:40:00 - 00:27:47:02
Speaker 1
Crystal ball. Okay, tell me, would you carve out the ball part or the background part?

00:27:47:05 - 00:27:50:14
Speaker 2
So I think I'm going to do it as a reduction linocut.

00:27:50:16 - 00:27:50:24
Speaker 1
Okay.

00:27:50:24 - 00:27:55:09
Speaker 2
Remind me what I mean. Do several different layers that there's different colors.

00:27:55:09 - 00:27:57:26
Speaker 1
Colors okay. Reduction means different colors okay.

00:27:57:26 - 00:28:19:08
Speaker 2
So I think the crystal ball will probably be like a transparent deep blue. I'm going to mix a blue with some extender that makes it thinner and lighter. Okay. And make it kind of a transparent blue. But I'm not sure about the other colors yet, so I still haven't finished the sketch, but I'll get there.

00:28:19:12 - 00:28:20:24
Speaker 1
Did you? You didn't bring it?

00:28:20:26 - 00:28:24:25
Speaker 2
I didn't bring it down. It's not ready for public consumption. Okay.

00:28:24:28 - 00:28:49:15
Speaker 1
I won't take a picture of it. But that reminds me, if you're listening on the podcast or watching on YouTube, we're we're really glad you're here. We want to know what you're working on. But do check out our Instagram because as we Art podcast on Instagram is where we post the pictures of the things they're in process or finished projects or things that were inspired by, I'll put a picture of my grandmother up.

00:28:49:21 - 00:28:58:16
Speaker 1
I don't have a picture of the puppet shows necessarily. I might and I might be able to find something about the puppet shows. The.

00:28:58:16 - 00:29:03:14
Speaker 2
Imagination is just perfect for that, you know? Yeah, just let it dwell.

00:29:03:17 - 00:29:20:22
Speaker 1
She would hand draw the advertisements and they'd be hung up at every store around town, like at night. The local community come and see them. They used to have, like, not what are they called, like village halls or something. The different, like community gathering spots. This is so old timey New England, I think. I don't.

00:29:20:22 - 00:29:27:00
Speaker 2
Know. Yeah I like they were probably in the past used more for like political gathering stuff.

00:29:27:02 - 00:29:36:19
Speaker 1
But we had variety shows like the community would come together and have a variety show, not crazy church or school like I would tap dance when I was young.

00:29:36:21 - 00:29:37:15
Speaker 2
Oh, nice.

00:29:37:20 - 00:29:47:26
Speaker 1
Really like a little village blue sailor outfit. I know I have a picture of me in that tapping outfit, so I there might be some interesting stuff to look at on Instagram this week.

00:29:47:29 - 00:29:48:18
Speaker 2
Great.

00:29:48:20 - 00:29:52:20
Speaker 1
Little throwbacks to the past. Yeah, yeah. That's great.

00:29:52:20 - 00:29:53:13
Speaker 2
It's beautiful.

00:29:53:20 - 00:30:00:06
Speaker 1
It's funny that the times I grew up in, in the 70s and 80s where that was still happening, but I don't know.

00:30:00:08 - 00:30:04:05
Speaker 2
Yeah, I don't know if puppet shows are still around. I haven't seen one in a long time.

00:30:04:09 - 00:30:14:05
Speaker 1
The only puppet show I have ever seen since I was little in pop culture was the movie.

00:30:14:07 - 00:30:17:02
Speaker 2
Forgetting Sarah Marshall.

00:30:17:02 - 00:30:18:17
Speaker 1
Sarah Marshall, tell me.

00:30:18:17 - 00:30:22:24
Speaker 2
Their name. Jason Segel, Jason Segel.

00:30:22:26 - 00:30:23:21
Speaker 1
That movie's funny.

00:30:23:25 - 00:30:24:17
Speaker 2
It's hilarious.

00:30:24:18 - 00:30:56:01
Speaker 1
Recommend it. But that actor Jason Segel is actually truly, really into making puppets. That's his his work. And he wrote like a puppet rock opera about Dracula that he always wanted a movie and couldn't seem to like, get it in. He he had done it years and years prior, but for that movie that it it's in at the end of the movie, you get to see his puppet show and it's really, really cool.

00:30:56:01 - 00:31:00:23
Speaker 1
And it did remind me when I saw that movie of like my grandmother's passion for puppetry.

00:31:00:25 - 00:31:06:18
Speaker 2
And they are all dressed like Danny Kaye, the puppeteer. Yeah, they're all in black turtlenecks.

00:31:06:20 - 00:31:17:12
Speaker 1
Danny Kaye so okay, I'll, I'll have to remember what pictures to add on Instagram this week. So if you don't know what we're talking about, you could you could see the rom com. Yeah. I think Forgetting Sarah.

00:31:17:15 - 00:31:21:17
Speaker 2
Marshall Sound of Music are my only two moments where the puppet.

00:31:21:17 - 00:31:26:17
Speaker 1
Show her pet shows with the goats, but, you know, that was such a small stage and.

00:31:26:17 - 00:31:28:02
Speaker 2
They were all marionettes.

00:31:28:04 - 00:31:29:02
Speaker 1
They were all marionettes.

00:31:29:02 - 00:31:31:09
Speaker 2
Yeah, they were up above the stage.

00:31:31:11 - 00:31:50:04
Speaker 1
Right. It was a little different when my grandmother would do the marionettes. She would be in her all black. She'd go out in front of the theater, in front of the puppet show stage, and do them like you could see her, but, but most of it was behind the curtain, so this will be fun. We will take some pictures to go along with this week.

00:31:50:04 - 00:32:02:14
Speaker 1
We did art. We talked inspiration. We want to hear from you. If you're inspired by anything in particular, if you have any weird, quirky things from your childhood, please share. Yes. I don't feel so alone in my weirdness.

00:32:02:16 - 00:32:05:09
Speaker 2
Oh, we were all weird kids, you know?

00:32:05:11 - 00:32:07:21
Speaker 1
But being weird is actually pretty awesome for sure.

00:32:07:21 - 00:32:10:05
Speaker 2
Normal people are boring.

00:32:10:08 - 00:32:12:01
Speaker 1
I didn't know how weird my family was.

00:32:12:04 - 00:32:14:13
Speaker 2
I didn't either till I was an adult, actually.

00:32:14:17 - 00:32:16:25
Speaker 1
And you're like, oh, you're the weird one. Yeah.

00:32:17:01 - 00:32:18:08
Speaker 2
You know, that happens.

00:32:18:08 - 00:32:20:10
Speaker 1
That's okay. We turned out all right.

00:32:20:12 - 00:32:24:14
Speaker 2
Yeah. We did. I mean, we pretend to. We're doing it.

00:32:24:14 - 00:32:35:07
Speaker 1
We're fine. So let us know how you're doing, what you're working on this week. We'd love to hear from you and from y'all. Bringing it back to y'all. Yes. And what episode is this.

00:32:35:09 - 00:32:38:07
Speaker 2
16. Is it. It is.

00:32:38:09 - 00:32:38:26
Speaker 1
Wait we did.

00:32:38:26 - 00:32:41:15
Speaker 2
15 I know because I had to type it in.

00:32:41:15 - 00:32:49:16
Speaker 1
Okay. So this is sweet 16 okay. So we're glad you're here. Thanks for being here. We will see you next week.

00:32:49:19 - 00:32:51:28
Speaker 2
Thanks. Bye.