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This podcast was born from a belief that meaningful growth doesn’t happen overnight. The things that really matter—in life, business, art, relationships—often take time, patience, and unseen investment. And yet, we live in a culture that constantly pulls us toward immediacy: fast food, AI, and overnight success stories.
But the reality is:
Anything truly worth building usually takes time. Success doesn't arrive in an instant.
We take the time to ask our amazing guests, what are the things that are worth putting in the time and investing in, even if we don’t see results for a long time?
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Speaker: [00:00:00] Welcome to the Bamboo Method, investing in the unseen. They say good things come to those who wait. But in a convenience driven world, patients can sometimes feel impossible, but the reality is that anything worth building usually takes time. So we're here to ask what are the things worth putting in the time and investing in, even if we don't see the results for a long time?
Today's guest is Luke Anderson, an entrepreneur, coach, and father who's learned that success isn't just about growth, it's about balance. Luke is the third generation operator of truckers prorate service who helps keep hardworking truckers compliant and on the road, and also a personal and business coach helping entrepreneurs achieve more in a sustainable way.
In this episode, we talk about keeping faith and family at the center, balancing ambition and staying present and attaining success without losing sight of what matters most.
Speaker 2: [00:01:00] Luke, thanks for being here. Thank you.
Speaker 3: Thanks
Speaker 2: for having me. Absolutely excited about this conversation.
Speaker 3: Likewise.
Speaker 2: As you know, we live in a culture that is driven by convenience and it's easy to, to become a part of that.
Yes. But we, um, wanna keep pushing towards the things that last and the things that are worse worth investing in.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, I'm curious, in your personal life, this could be something, something in the past or something current, what do you or have you invested in that took a while to see the fruit?
Speaker 3: Hmm. I was when, uh, I was looking at that question and then there's so many different ways I could answer it because, you know, I could go the parent route, I could go the marriage route, I could go the whatever.
Yeah. But I, I think the, the best way I can answer it, and you can tell me if we need to dive in further, I'm happy to, but I think the biggest investment that I've ever made, um, in myself, that either takes a long time for fruit to show up or, um, I haven't seen the fruit yet. I think it's a combination of both.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 3: Is foundations.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: And [00:02:00] what I mean by that is, is foundations are in my life, in my business, and it goes all the way back to what we were talking about with alignment, right? Like, who am I
Speaker 2: Mm,
Speaker 3: based upon what I value?
Speaker 2: Mm.
Speaker 3: Right? And to take it a step further, um, to determine what I value, I have to understand where those values come from.
Mm Right? Am I gonna take values from the world? Am I gonna take values from a mentor? Am I gonna take values from my parents? Am I gonna take values from school? Am I gonna take 'em from God and the Bible? Like, where am I gonna get those values from? So understanding who I am and as a believer of Christ, like that's, that's where I choose to put my, my beliefs in as well as where I choose to get my values from.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So then if I understand who I am in Christ and what he calls me to value, now I have a framework for what I value that then builds my identity, which from there I can now build characteristics and character traits that now establish my foundation.
Speaker 2: Hmm.
Speaker 3: If that makes sense. As far as investment goes.
That's not just like some, uh [00:03:00] uh Oh, that's a nice thought, Luke. Like, that's, it's not like a just pleasantry. Yeah. If that makes sense. It requires time. It requires money. It requires intentionality. It requires sacrifice.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: On a consistent basis. But that investment into the foundations of life through that avenue that I just described, that literally affects everything else because it becomes the, the, the lens in which I look at everything through and make decisions on.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But because it's not a tangible, like I invested in this, uh, you know, in this property as an example, it's not a tangible
Speaker 2: mm-hmm.
Speaker 3: Um, it's sometimes can take a while to see results. Yeah. It can take time to see the, you know, like I said, with parenting, it takes time before you see your kids' personality and behavior really show and solidify.
You pair it for years before you know how they're gonna turn out. Oh yeah. As an example. Yep. So it's definitely the, the undergrowth, if you will, um, side of it. So as far as like [00:04:00] broad, like what do I invest in? I would say foundations.
Speaker 2: What does that look like to invest in it tangibly? What do you do to invest in that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I, there's, there's several different things that I think that that includes for me personally. Um, that includes a lot of time in, not, I almost said isolation, but I just recently learned that there's difference between solitude and isolation. Sure. Um, so, um, but I take taking, investing time to be alone Yeah.
With my own thoughts, I think is really where it starts. Yeah. And, and then. Accompany that with prayer.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And, and that is necessary for anything that we do. I think otherwise you're just being reactionary.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I've done that for a lot of years, and reactionary typically does not yield the results anybody wants.
Yeah. So how do I be proactive? Yeah. Is really from a tangible side, like no matter what we're talking about, how do I be as proactive as possible?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And we have to get quiet and we have to be in our own head for a minute.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And for some of us, if you're like me, [00:05:00] sometimes that can be a scary and uncomfortable place.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Um, for a variety of reasons, right?
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 3: Um, but, and there's a level of discipline there that only comes with consistently practicing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So anyway, so time, uh. Prayer. Um, and then, uh, time in relationship.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: So if there's, if so, like I mentioned, I'm married, so my partner in life is, is my wife.
Yeah. And we, we have a lot of time together. Yeah. Like we have built that into our life where we are checking in with each other a lot and we're processing with each other and we. Have gone through different tangible resources like counseling, conferences, leadership conferences, marriage conferences, um, read books together, listening to podcasts together, um, watching video, you know, all of that.
Finding mentors together and apart. So those are a lot of different tangibles that we've done apart and together. But then we come, we bring it all together in our little round table, the [00:06:00] two of us. Mm-hmm. And then we, we. Talk about things. We process things and we make sure that we're in alignment in making decisions and, and what direction that we need to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah,
Speaker 3: that makes sense. And I think that kind of summarizes, like, I can keep going, but that's like
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The start. And in my mind that's the starting point as far as like what do you tangibly do. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I love that. I mean, I think you spoke to a couple of powerful things that are incredibly Yeah, they can, they can be really impactful, but they're really difficult to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Solitude.
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: That is a tough one.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Especially in, uh, like you said in in today's culture where everything is like right now, I want it right now. Right now. Like, and you mentioned microwaves. I wanna microwave my success. I wanna microwave everything.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Do we want it now? And, and who's got time to be quiet.
Mm-hmm. And right. And um, I also think sitting with your own thoughts.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. That's a stuff. It's, that's a bit of a scary thing at times. One thing I'm curious about, what have been some of the biggest obstacles [00:07:00] in trying to set up those foundations and how'd you overcome 'em, or how are you working to overcome them?
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. The number one biggest hurdle or thing to overcome is myself. And I don't say that to be cutesy or cliche or anything like that. Like it's just it, man. I am so good at freaking sabotaging myself. Um, especially with some different health dynamics that have been a reality for me the last 10 years or so.
Now, specifically what I mean by that is like I, I know you know personally, but like, yeah. Um, I had a traumatic brain injury from a car accident. And that has brought about physical realities. Yeah. Neurologically that go, that require me to go against my nature or go against what I think is my nature.
Yeah. Of like hustle, grind. Just work harder. Do it like granny did. Yeah. It was a big, you know, she was like my entrepreneurial like role model and she had the mentality of like, I will just wor, outwork everybody. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, but physically my body shuts down and I can't.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: [00:08:00] So, so I think that's, that's number one.
The biggest, the biggest hurdle is overcoming like, okay, I don't have to just like blunt force work through it. I have to actually be able to sit. Be with myself, be with God, be able to take time to figure out, okay, if this isn't the path to just blunt force work through it, what, what is the path? 'cause there has to be a way forward.
There has to be a way to be able to be better. So if it's not just out work, everybody in the room, you know, pull a Dwayne Johnson, like just out work, be the hardest worker in the room. Cool. Um, if that's not an option. Yeah, what is the other option?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Whether that's business, whether that's work, whether that's.
Relationally or fitness or whatever, like, what, what do I need to do different? So I think that's, that's been the biggest hurdle is just being able to be with myself. Yeah. And to be able to be like, okay, I can't do it the way I want to.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: But how is the way forward that is actually sustainable?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think that's the number one.
Um, the other one is, I would say is learning how to, now another big one anyway, is learning how to navigate [00:09:00] that balance of relationship, especially being married. When you take the stance, I'll say it this way. When you take the stance that marriage is not 50 50, it's a hundred, a hundred, that changes everything because now you are truly life partners.
You are doing every, you are, you are moving together as one unit. And that takes a lot of time and intentionality and a lot of grace.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: For both parties.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Um, so I say that as that. I don't wanna call it a hurdle, but it can be.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: As for growth, it absolutely can be. Yeah. And I know people don't like to admit that, but that, I would say that that's, that's a big one.
It is. It allows you to go further.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But it can be in the short term, in the spirit of when we're talking about short term wise. Yeah. It's definitely a hurdle.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. One final question before we move on to the next, uh, question is, how have you discovered, um, the ability to decipher between when you engage more [00:10:00] willpower?
And. Push through.
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: Know there's a level of res resilience mm-hmm. I think is important to develop mm-hmm. Of discipline, of grit, of just push through
Speaker 3: mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: And when to be like, oh, this is a moment. I gotta, I gotta step back and listen to my body. Mm-hmm. And recognize when no margin is what's needed here.
You understand the question? Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3: I do. Yeah. Yeah. Um, negative feedback, like, if you've ever heard the concept of like a n negative feedback loop, right? Mm-hmm. So, um, that's how we get better, right? So, uh, one of the ways that I, I heard it from a mentor one time is like. If you're trying to grab a pencil on the table and you see the pencil, you just, you just can just grab it like you see it, you can feel it like it's right there.
But if you close your eyes and you don't know where it is on the table, you're gonna put your hand down. And chances are it's not gonna land on there the first time. So that's a negative feedback of like, Nope, it isn't there. Move my hand. Nope, it's not there. Nope, it's not there until you find it. A process of elimination.
Right. So with health. As well as [00:11:00] relationally, um, as well as financially as well, whatever you can plug in. Literally anything there, we all learn regardless what it is from negative feedback. Now, that's not the same as like somebody just like coming at you and like, it could be, I suppose, like, you know, throwing slurs at you and you know, cussing you out or whatever.
But what I mean by that is like, okay, if I push too hard to, to your question, if I push too hard, maybe I don't know that until I have pushed too hard. Mm-hmm. Um, prime example, uh, yesterday you and I and Wade were supposed to have a meeting. Mm-hmm. And I had to cancel.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: Um, that was because the previous three days I had pushed myself too hard and I woke up the morning of our meeting and realized if I push again because of previous experiences, I know this will be like the straw that breaks the camel's back and I.
May already be at that point because of certain symptoms I'm feeling like physically. Yeah. And physiologically. Um, so I, [00:12:00] I know because I've pushed too hard. I've been in moments like that where I've been like, ah, it'll be fine. I'll just keep going. And then I end up in the ER because I blacked out and ended up on the other side of the city and, you know, didn't know how I got there and my car's in the middle of the road.
You know, like things like that. Like So is that a real story? That is a real story, yes. Huh,
Speaker 2: that's epic.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. I've done that multiple times.
Speaker 2: Gosh.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So yeah, that was, we can go into that if you want, but that's, that's, that is a real, real story. But that's because I have that context from those negative feedbacks, from those negative experiences.
I know this is my cue because of how it feels and based upon, here's history. This is as far as I can go right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I can't push for further right now. I need to enact some different protocols and routines. Right. So it's on the health side, but it's the same principle of like in marriage or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Does that answer your question?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker: How does failure come into play? So you say negative feedback.
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
Speaker: Yep. You know, [00:13:00] you learn more from not feeling the pencil about where the pencil is than not feeling at all. How does failure come into play in learning? You know, failure is not pleasant and I think there it's very easy to avoid failure 'cause it's not fun.
How do you incorporate that in how you learn and grow?
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, you have to accept that it's failure. Like that's first. You have to accept it at first and be, and being willing to embrace that you are going to fail. I saw, actually just yesterday, I saw a quote from Jordan Peterson that said, people aren't worried about success or worried about succeeding.
They're worried about whether they fail or not. I'm like, oh man, that, that kind of hit deep. Like I, I feel that one. But to your question, Wade, yeah, it, it, you have to acknowledge that failure is just gonna be a part of it no matter what you do. Um, whether you're. Sam, you know, I love to lift. So like lifting, it's a part of it.
Uh, marriage, it's a part of it. Raising kids, it's a part of it. Homeschooling, it's a part of it. Business. It's a part of it. What [00:14:00] not. Eating that donut, you know, being on, you know, on a diet, it's a part of it. Um, you're gonna fail. When you accept that the next acceptance you need to have is. What can I learn from it?
Or can I learn from it?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And that's not a, is there something to learn? 'cause there is something to learn there. It's will I allow myself to learn?
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: Um, that's another thing I learned from my granny. She's like, always be learning.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Anyway.
Speaker 2: Oh, I, I think that's a key thing though. Am I going to allow myself to learn from this?
Speaker 3: Yes. '
Speaker 2: cause the learning process isn't easy.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: And I think that, I think that points back to scripture.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: James says it does consider it pure joy when you face trials of many kinds. Yeah. Because the testing of your faith produces perseverance.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: Let perseverance finish this work
Speaker 3: that
Speaker 2: you may be.
It's like, let let this whatever is hard. Yeah. Finish this work on. You mean you could just be like, I'm gonna not. I'm just gonna move on.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna avoid it, whatever it would be, but
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think, I think that's a defining it's absolutely growth model
Speaker 3: mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: That, that you have to choose to partake of.
[00:15:00] Mm-hmm. Am I going to let this refine me and learn from it and keep going?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Um, am I going to reach for the pencil again and am I gonna use that data? Or am I gonna reach the same spot? Hope it's still there.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes.
Speaker 2: Or hope that it moves.
Speaker 3: Now we get
Speaker 2: an Einstein and keep doing that. I mean, how many times in life
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: Do we keep reaching for the same spot? Thinking the pencil's gonna be there. It's like, if I do it this time, maybe it'll be there.
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. Yep.
Speaker 2: Same thing over and over again. And it's not there. You
Speaker 3: do the same thing expecting different results. It's the, the what is that, the, the, uh, definition of
Speaker 2: insanity.
Insanity. Mm-hmm. Einstein. Mm-hmm. Absolutely. It's very true. Yet, yet, here we are as human beings. And that's what, that's a common method.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 2: Absolutely,
Speaker 3: absolutely. It is. Like I told you, I I, I'm sometimes a little stubborn and that's, I've done that before.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think we could spend a lot of time, I'm sure, talking about,
Speaker 3: oh, I could talk about,
Speaker 2: um,
Speaker 3: I could dive down so many rabbit holes on that.
Indeed, indeed. Rabbit trails. Indeed. But,
Speaker 2: but I am curious, for the sake of
Speaker 3: Yes. Keep us focused,
Speaker 2: uh, what we're here for. I want to hear about professionally.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: What are the things that you've had to be patient with, continue to [00:16:00] nurture. And put time and investment into knowing that eventually it's going to bring results.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Um, I would say, again, I could say self, of course. Um, but in business, so much of business is, I'm, I'm thoroughly convinced, is relationships.
Speaker 2: Mm.
Speaker 3: I've spent a lot of time investing in relationships.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of relationships that I know someday will. Monetize, if that makes sense. Like, I don't want to sound like insensitive because there's you, but you know what I mean?
I do. There's a lot of relationships that I've invested in.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Um, in human capital, if you will. One, because I just absolutely love people.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Um, I truly do, but, and I consider so many of them my friends and, and, uh, you know, love doing life with them, whereas it's applicable, it takes a lot of investment on the relationship side.
Yep. And then I would say skillset wise. That's the other one where it's like investing time and money into building specific skill sets.
Speaker 2: Mm.
Speaker 3: Um, and sometimes that just takes a long time to get good at something. Yeah. What is it like, uh, it is like [00:17:00] 10,000 or 12,000 hours to master something. 10. Yeah.
10,000 hours.
Speaker 2: 10. What skills are you grateful that you've spent time investing in? Can you identify any?
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. I would say probably the biggest one that I am grateful for investing in. Is the skill to understand people. I don't know if there's a better way of saying that, but to like really connect and relate with people.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Like on a human element.
Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3: That has served me in everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Um, now I'm not saying I'm like at, at all, like, I'm not like, you know, a Tony Robbins or anything like that, who can just like seemingly connect with everybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But having the ability to understand. People's motivation, understand psychology.
Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3: Uh, understand the physiological that's come from like my own journey of Yeah. Understanding like, well, how, how was I behaving when I was not feeling well?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, that type of thing. So just understanding people better.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Um, I don't know of a better way of putting it than that, but just understanding people better is by far than the best skill I've ever invested in.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: [00:18:00] Um, well, I mean, it is one of your jobs, right?
Speaker 3: Yeah. Literally. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And, and, uh, it's clear that you've spent a lot of time. Working on understanding yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you think that plays into that skill?
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: How does that play into it?
Speaker 3: Um, the thing that just came up for me on that is I think the number one thing is emotions.
Understanding my own emotions, because that's kind of a gateway
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: To every, to how somebody's thinking. So if you can understand what they might be emotionally thinking, like understanding the empathy side. Yeah. Of like what are they potentially thinking or what are they, what are they feeling? Excuse me.
Um, that will. Give you kind of a window into their soul a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And that is something that I had to learn for myself.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: To understand how I was feeling.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, as an example, anger is a secondary emotion. Yeah. So when I'm feeling angry. Well, yes, it's an emotion. We learned that from inside out and
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Yeah.
Speaker 3: One of my favorite movies time. Great movie. Anyway, um,
Speaker 2: great movie.
Speaker 3: But, uh, you know, anger is a secondary emotion. So if I understand that, [00:19:00] if I'm angry immediately that tells me, okay, there's something else going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Because I'm not angry for no reason.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: As just an example. So if you see somebody angry, okay, why is somebody angry?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: There's something below that.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: Right. That's maybe a, a little bit of a basic one, but that. Understanding those types of ticks in people.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Comes from I had to understand 'em in myself first.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: And it's not like I understand them. I have now arrived. 'cause nobody does. Yeah, nobody does.
So it's a, not only do I, I have to understand how it applies to me. I have to understand how that it applied, how it applies to me now.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But I have to continue learning and continue to invest in my understanding of human psychology and how emotions work and what does the Bible say about it, and how does it interact in the world?
And what does history say, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So that I can be more prepared to understand it when I'm at a different version of myself or at a different stage of life.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Because it changes.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Because how I understand myself [00:20:00] now is different than how I understood myself a week ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And it'll be different than how I understand myself next week.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Hopefully.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. No, I think, uh, I, uh, yeah. I feel like emotions are the way that we actually know people, right? Yeah. I can know everything about you. Mm-hmm. I can know your history. I can know. That you had an injury? Yeah. That you run two businesses. I could put all that on paper.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: That's just knowing about you.
I don't know Luke until I know what makes you happy? What the emotions be.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: What makes you sad? What makes you laugh?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: What makes you get excited?
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: What makes you afraid? That's when I truly know a person is all the emotions.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 2: Um, which can be labeled as like good or bad, but I think emotions absolutely.
They just are.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it's a piece of, of who we are and how we express ourselves. It, once you can understand a bit more of that, and I just hear more like this curiosity, like what's
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: What's going on there? Which can help you connect.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: As opposed to judge or make
Speaker 3: right,
Speaker 2: you know, assessments about, and kind of manipulate.
Speaker 3: That's a really good, that's a really good way to, like a really good point to differentiate. Um, on what [00:21:00] we're talking about because Yeah. There's a lot of people that want to know so that they can manipulate. Exactly. They don't want, they're not doing it to understand, to connect for the purpose of connecting.
Yes. They're doing it for the purpose of manipulation.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 3: Or for the purpose of justifying themselves. Yes. Or
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: Right. But I, I love it for the sense of connecting.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: Um, 'cause if I can, if I can understand even just a little bit about. What somebody's feeling. Yeah. Like I said, it's the gateway into their soul.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And maybe they're not giving me the key to every door. Yeah. You know, they're not giving me the whole, all the kings keys to the kingdom, so to speak.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But if they're letting me in the entryway, at least, like cool. Like now, now we, we are, we have a different level of connection. 'cause now I'm in the front door.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Or now I'm in their living room to speak. Right. Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now it just becomes fun. 'cause now you get to like learn about people and experience people in a new way. And then you find, collaborate on the business side, tagging it back there. Now that's where collaborations come from.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: That's where the seeing.
Okay. Does it make sense for us to work together as a client provider relationship [00:22:00] or does it make sense to partner together if it's like you and Wade are partners, right? Yeah. So. That didn't happen until, you know, just like, yeah, you seem cool. Yeah, you seem cool. Let's be partners. Yeah, because you wouldn't know if they were cool or not unless that all took place.
Yeah. Unless you could understand a little bit of each other of truly who they, you, excuse me, who each other were to get like, okay, now I'm in the front door, I'm in the living room now we're having dinner together. Liked. That type of thing, like absolutely. The different level of intimacy in a relationship.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: Yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah, absolutely.
Speaker: Hey, everyone, Wade here. Before we get to the final question. If you like the show so far and wanna hear more, you can support the Bamboo Method on Patreon. There. You can listen to the full director's cut of this conversation and help make this show.
Speaker 3: So here I am. I've been in the business for about, for about a year.
And, um, I started having these symptoms of like, I'd wake up, like I, I'd be driving to like an appointment or back from an appointment. And [00:23:00] then the next thing I know there's cars honking at me. I'm in the, like kitty wampus in the side of, in the middle of an intersection. The time of day has changed.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: And like I'm in a section of town, I'm, and I, that I don't know how I got there and like, I don't recognize where I am. That happened probably about a half a dozen times before I told my wife,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: Um, we found a specialty clinic. And they're like, okay, we know what's going on with you. Here's what's going on.
You have six months to live. Best case scenario, you'll be dead in six months. Worst case scenario, you'll be a vegetable.
Speaker 2: Well, finally, I'd love to hear what are you nurturing that you need to give up?
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: That you wish you weren't?
Speaker 3: I was, I was thinking about that when, uh, when I saw that question. I go, what a great question and what a hard one to answer. Mm-hmm. Because then it requires you to be honest with yourself and sit with it.
Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: What I had had been fostering until very recently, um, was [00:24:00] perpetuating survival mode. And what that looked like was, again, going back to some of the themes that I've talked about where I've been trying in the past when I've tried to control everything. And hold on. Really, really tight things just stall out things.
Just Yeah. Whether it's financial, whether it's relational, whether it's physical, whatever. Um, and then that perpetuates just surviving, like, or another way of putting it, the hustle and grind culture. Mm-hmm. Right. Um, but for me, I, I caught, I have caught myself this year and specifically outta the last three years I identified just within the last few weeks, I'm like, okay, I have been nur not, not just in survival mode, but actually actively nurturing it.
Speaker 2: Mm.
Speaker 3: And like, because it's actually become a. Comfortable place that's known.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Um, in different areas of my life.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And my wife and I were actually processing through it, just the other, um, I guess it was a week or 10 days ago. And we came to this realization when we were talking about our lifestyle and what we were classifying as comfortable and what we were classifying as survival [00:25:00] mode and.
We're considering a couple of different lifestyle changes and we're like, well, we don't want to go into complacency or into like old rhythms and habits that just get us comfortable and in survival mode. And then we define when we defined it, we identified that we already were there.
Speaker 2: Mm.
Speaker 3: And true story, I, I had to stop and I started crying and I, I'm getting emotional about it just right now.
Mm. Um, I almost vomited. I've never had that level of feeling where like, you know, when people talk about like a punch in the gut, I thought I understood what that meant.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Until that moment, it like physically it hurt and I, and I like changed a co like, to a different shade and I literally was like, hold on.
And I was like, dry heaving, like, and try not to vomit all over my car. Like, um, it was, it was a horrible realization and because. I realized that we were there because I had been perpetuating it.
Speaker 2: Mm.
Speaker 3: I had been nurtured, to use your word, I had been nurturing that [00:26:00] place of survival.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And, uh, we're not doing that anymore.
Speaker 2: Heck no. Yeah. Let's not do it. No.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So when you think about investing in yourself and that, those foundations as a result, what's the fruit that you've seen because you've done that?
Speaker 3: Yeah. So on the, on the personal side, the fruit, the, the biggest fruit that has come outta that has been my children, who they are and how they behave.
Like this is gonna be one of those moments where people are gonna be like, oh, here, this is a parent, just bread, these kids. And yes I am. You got to
Speaker 2: right?
Speaker 3: Gosh darn. Yes I am. Okay. Um, but I can say with all 100% sincerity and honesty, it is not weird to us. When people, multiple times a day are coming up to us and be like, wow, your kids are amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wow. Your kids are so polite. Wow. Your kids are so thoughtful. They're so helpful. As an example, my kids are in Hunter Safety right now. My two older boys. Um, yeah. Uh, [00:27:00] here in here in Billings. And so, uh. My dad took 'em last night and, uh, he texted my mom and, and she was relaying it to me and she's like, yeah.
He's like, yeah, this dad was like, oh, who are you with? And he, he, he told him, you know, the kids' names. Oh, wow. Tho those kids have been amazing all week.
Speaker 2: Yeah,
Speaker 3: they've been so helpful. Like, they helped set up, they helped tear down. They asked the, they asked the most questions, you know, they ask good questions.
They're helping other kids out in the classroom. And my mom's like, oh, was that one of the instructors? She's like, no. It was just like some random dad. You know? It's like, so I say that because that is the fruit. Of the per on the personal side, that's probably the best metric on personal that I, I can think of as far as how are my wife and I in marriage, how are we, you know, what are we modeling to our kids?
How are we parenting, how is the education going? You know, because that's the whole thing with homeschool. Like Sure. You know, our, you know, my favorite, we joke about it in the family. Like, yeah, there goes our socially un, you know, unsocial [00:28:00] kids, you know, like they, they don't have enough social interaction in their life.
And for those who, dunno, I'm being sarcastic, but, um, um, but that's the best like barometer
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: To know, like on the personal side, are we doing okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3: And that, that, that fruit that we're seeing there is. Is incredible. Yeah. And I'm so, yes. I'm bragging on them. And by default, I guess a little bit on myself and my wife, but
Speaker 2: yeah,
Speaker 3: that's the, that's the fruit on the person.
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm asking you to do. Yep. And, uh, and I can at attest to that. We were, we were with you guys That's right. A couple weeks ago.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: And
Speaker 3: we had a
Speaker 2: blast. Oh man. It was a blast. And your kids are amazing. They're great kids. I can, I can, uh, attest to the little bit that I've been around you and your family.
Which maybe isn't a little bit, but however much it is. I know what you mean. Everything you said I would say is true. Um,
Speaker 3: yes.
Speaker 2: And um, I love that. What a great example.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And, and what a, what a worthy. Thing to
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: To invest in.
Speaker 3: True, truly.
Speaker 2: Um, and you know, part of part of the whole point that we wanna talk about here is what is worth?
Yeah. Giving time to [00:29:00] wait to see the fruit, what's, what's, what is worth choosing to, if we're talking about an oven versus a microwave, what's worth putting in the oven and waiting to see it develop?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Um, and uh, that's definitely, I think kids in the next generation.
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. Well, we're literally called Absolutely.
We're literally called to prepare the next generation.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: And I mean, that's, that's scripture.
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3: You know, it's like that, that's, that's part of what our purpose is.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: And, and anyway, I could go down that rabbit trail, but I totally agree with you. Yeah, absolutely. What is worth? I agree.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think it's beautiful.
Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Um, so professionally you talk about the impact that, you know, your foundations, investing in yourself, developing relationships, building skills, all of that plays into. Um, growth and it's, it's an investment. So I'm curious, what's the fruit that you have seen as a result of all that, and what's the fruit that you've seen professionally?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so on the professional side, it's the fruit has been multifaceted. It's been relational for sure. Sure. I've made some of the best friends in my life
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: In business. Yeah. And by going through all the things that we've been talking about. [00:30:00] But, um. Made some amazing connections, not only for me, but for my family.
But then financially, I mean, I've, you know, with my health, my, my health stuff, it racked up a lot of debt.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, medical debt, I mean, hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars, you know, when you add it all up. And, um, when it's all said and done financially, being able to take care of that. And like that's now in the past and I'm only 34.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, so it's only been, you know, all, you know, my relapses and everything, like all happened within the decade and all of that debt and I was able to recover and not work for a lot of years.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So like there's a very tangible financial benefit to being able to develop that kind of income.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: In order to, to stabilize the family financially.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Coming off, coming off of, you know, major health stuff as an example. Yeah. Um, so I'd say relationships. I would say financial, I would say, you know, kind of going back to the personal side, like it's, it's helped me develop into a better version of myself, a better person.
Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. [00:31:00]
Speaker 3: Um, I think I'm absolutely a better husband and father because of it, because I've, I've just seen so many different walks of life. That it just further helps clarify like the walk of life that we want Yeah. And that we feel we're supposed to have. Yeah. If that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3: Um, the, probably the biggest fruit on the professional side.
Um, yes. Relational, yes. Financial, but, but the impact that comes from the professional as well. To me that's a big deal. Yeah. Especially with talking about kids and things like that, and just having a heart for people in general. Seeing how not only can the professional side. Whether you're a professional or business or work, like the type of value you provide can be very, very fulfilling.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Um, and you get to do that. But then going back to the kids' side, like they get to see that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And it becomes all the way back, it goes full circle into like, now you're helping prepare them in the way they should go because they're seeing how dad or how mom Yeah. Is adding value to the world.
Speaker 2: Yep.[00:32:00]
Speaker 3: Biblical or not. Like that just is a good practice because if they, if, if, if you're adding value, like we consider that culturally is like you are what a contributing member of society.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And that is like, okay, you are a model citizen if you're contributing to the betterment of humanity.
Yeah.
Speaker: Yep.
Speaker 3: And so if you're, if you are doing something that is paying you. By default, unless you're like scamming somebody. Um, but if you're doing, doing it ethically, you're adding value to somebody's life. Yeah. And that's why you're getting paid.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So if you're getting paid and you're doing something ethically, you're adding value somewhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I think I just, maybe that's just me, but I think that's a very beautiful thing.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, absolutely. I think that's,
Speaker 3: and then the kids see that and then they learn and they go, okay, now I need to go be of service.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah. Well, I think that's also the mindset we think of like.
When we get into, I, I grew up thinking, oh, I'm gonna get into the world. I'm gonna get a job. I'm gonna do what someone tells me to do. Yep. And then they're gonna gimme money. But I [00:33:00] think the best mindset is how can you bring the most value? And if you're, if you're just coming at that approach, you're gonna find yourself being successful.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: If I'm concerned about, not necessarily the paycheck with the money, but I'm, yes. If my drive is to, how can I add value to the people around me?
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: Eventually that'll turn into,
Speaker 3: yeah. A
Speaker 2: paycheck.
Speaker 3: Yes. But it's, you know, when keeping in the theme with the, with bamboo, like, man, that can take a while sometimes,
Speaker 2: sometimes
Speaker 3: it take a while.
And that's, and that's why it seemingly is a. Uh, not a common stance for people to take of like, how can I be of most value?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Instead it's, I'm here and give me money.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: Like, gimme, gimme, gimme.
Speaker 2: You talked about what you, the transition of what you want to get rid of, what you need to lose, and that's the survival mode mentality and, and that, you know, type of operation.
Yeah. What are you gonna make, what is that making space for?
Speaker 3: It's making space for. Abundance. That's the, that's the, the, the short answer I guess is in a, in a word, abundance. Um, but it's making space [00:34:00] for the, the legacy piece to actually building the, that legacy piece and building a life that allows. My family and I to thrive here and now, but also to lay a foundation for the future.
Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3: Because there's no way I can do that if I'm constantly just stuck in a sense of survival mode. Like where it's like, take, take, take, take, take. Or like, what can I get from that? If I'm stuck in that, then I, there's, you can't build with that.
Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3: Um, we talk about value. You can't add value when that's your frame of mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So it opens space for value. It opens space for service. It opens space for better stewardship. It opens space for, if I'm being honest, it's more fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Um, we like to have fun.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: Um, but it's, it's really hard to have fun when you're feeling like you're in, survive in some elements of survival mode.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Um, and for, for the future and for future generations, for the people I won't meet.
Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Thank you. I love that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Finally, your businesses. Yes. If anyone is looking to find those businesses, what are their names? Where do they find them?
Speaker 3: Yep. I [00:35:00] appreciate that. So the trucking side is truckers prorate.
If you can go to truckers prorate.com, um, that's where you can find us there and what the services we offer. So if you're in the trucking industry, if you have a fleet, if you have a truck. And you're needing help with the licensing side, we can help you out. Um, and then on the coaching side, uh, luke john anderson.com.
John is JON, um, that's, uh, for me and my personal services as far as coaching and consulting goes. Thank you. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: Awesome. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you guys having me on.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. You guys are awesome. Yeah. Thanks for being here.
Speaker 3: Of course.
Speaker 2: Great conversation. Likewise. Yeah. We appreciate your time.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Let's do it again.
Speaker 2: Let's do it again.
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
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Sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Because if this person was in Iraq, we could just drone strike him or kill him. 'cause we know who he is. We know he is a bad guy. But then you sit next to him and you're like, I'm not allowed to kill you.