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Welcome to the Energetic Radio podcast. This episode is brought to you
by the school of play dotco, hosted by Dale Sibonham and
Paul Campbell. Each week, we'll bring to you tips, strategies, and ideas
on how you can bring more joy and happiness into your life and those you
share with. Alright. Hello everyone, and
welcome back to the energetic radio episode
348. This is brought to you by the school of play, And we are
with the enigmatic Dale Sidebottom and the one and only
Paul Campbell. And we, it's bloody good to be back. It is. We had a
week off, mate. We had we gave ourselves a week off. Bit of a break
from the old podcast. But for good reasons, we're on a away
on a road trip, and couldn't quite squeeze it in in the little cabin we
were staying in up in Wodonga. Carton all this stuff and
carton the podcast studio around this isn't an option, unfortunately. But it was
kinda nice to have a break, to be honest with you. Nice. Recharge the batteries
and get away from the wife and kids in the, the city.
Played a bit of bucket golf, which was amazing. Yeah. That's one thing. If you
haven't, obviously we're not endorsed by anyone, but, you know, like
on, like, Facebook or Instagram when you just keep getting targeted by
things. Yep. It just kept targeting me for ages. I was really fascinated by it.
And, like, it wouldn't be hard to create. You know, you get a bucket and
a ball and you gotta hit it in it. So simple. So simple. But I
think just Bikers just so good. Mate, I'm sick of seeing these amazing
ideas come across. I'm like, why did we not think about it? The latest school
of play, dude. People have seen that and they're like, that's an amazing idea. This
is true, but you think about the bucket gold free sale. Right? Like, what was
200 and something bucks? Yeah. I think it cost me about 2.60 for
2 clubs. And they're cool, like these plastic big heads. These balls
would've cost about 10¢ each and then 3 buckets. And 3 buckets that are
made out of the thinnest material known to man, camping little toggles on them. I
reckon they are landing those things. I reckon they make them in China for about
$3.80 per click. I can hear that punks. That's easy. Bloody awesome. And you
know what? Hours of entertainment. The best. And obviously we run a company called The
School of Play and it was the ultimate because we'd have a day at work
and literally crack a can, crack a beer, go play some bucket
golf in the in the Wodonga caravan park. And for me, it
was amazing to see how it, how it lent itself to forming
relationships with so many dudes. Why? That's what it does. Doesn't it? Yep. So many
people were like, what is this? What are you playing? Strike up a conversation. They
come have a game with us. They'd have a beer with us. The craziest one
was, you know, the other day that we met, one degrees of
separation with a side bottom family. And then lo and behold, we end up
meeting him on the Friday night at Shepparton golf course, and he's playing golf with
one of your best mates. Yeah. Like, it's unreal, isn't it? How small the world
can be and how large it is, but Hey. When you, when you come from
Shepparton or I I bet people listening along can empathize if
they've grown up in a country town. It may seem like I think
there's 40 or 50,000 people in Shepparton, but it doesn't feel like that.
No. Like, really nice. So wherever you go, you bump into someone. And, yeah,
that was pretty pretty crazy because we ended up going back there, and my cousins
were playing. So I ended up emceeing and and doing the auction. Doing an auction.
I know. It's and it's the old, it's the old side bottom name, mate. Everywhere
we go, oh, it's our side bottom, bloody. It's 2 degrees of separation
with you. There must that many out you that many of you out there, it's
insane. Before we get too deep in the pod, you know I love my
stupid stats. And we are up to episode 348.
We are nearing the big 350. Yeah. But it's a bit of a crazy one
today because we, literally had a meeting with a school
from Hong Kong, last night, and we're gonna potentially do some work with
the school in Hong Kong, which is super exciting, super epic. And when I was
researching my stats, the very first one that popped up right is this. So in
Hong Kong, if on your license plate for your car, your
your numbers are 348, so it might be double a 348
or c d 348, it triples your chance. They
believe it triples your chance of dying wealthy.
That's that's what it is in Hong Kong. And when that popped up on my
screen, this one was like, hang on a minute. We met with the school yesterday
in Hong Kong. We're doing episode 348, and that's the first
stat that popped up and I typed in interesting statistics about 348.
Whereas Hong Kong is like, it's meant to be, I'm sharing my podcast. There you
go. And if, people haven't been, like, obviously, a lot of Asia is
very similar. But Singapore and Hong Kong aren't really
like Asia. Yeah. Like Singapore is like, the like the tour
for Melbourne is like the tour rack of Asia, like it's in insane. And then
Hong Kong is this beautiful leaf, it's completely different. Yeah. Whereas you go to others,
so, yeah, I was very I get excited when he he had opportunities to go
back to Singapore or Hong Kong, because it's such a beautiful experience. I haven't seen
either of them. It's definitely and after seeing even just seeing the
backdrop on Scott's office yesterday, those hills and valleys, you have a bit of an
image of what you think Hong Kong is like, and then you see that and
he shows you around. It just bloody looks beautiful. There's
jungle life right next to metropolis. Well, you've got all these
mad magical high rises and hills, and it's all like
trees and leafy. It it's beautiful. It really is. Can't wait. Fingers crossed.
This, this takes us over there at some stage. I'm sure it will. Sound any
positive. So I'd say so. No. I've never done Singapore, never done Asia, so it's
on the 2 list for sure. Today, mate, we wanna have a chat about
life. Yep. Yeah. We've obviously had a week off. We've doing a fair bit. We've
had some, let's be honest. We've been riding it. Right?
There's been ebbs and flows, ups and downs, highs
and lows, dejection, happiness.
It's been a bit insane the last couple of weeks, and it's been a real,
you know, mate, you you you living. You know what I mean? Like, we we
have we have bloody we yeah. Life doesn't discriminate and it's been, it's
been hard, but, yeah. I think you wanted to kick off, you know,
about Yeah. I just like, you know, being
deflated when you you work so hard for something or you put something together and
it derails, like, not only what you're doing at work, but, like,
your life. Yep. And I think that for me, for people out there,
there's something called the mental health fund and, like, we ticked all the
boxes we thought from their application. And we submitted it and it
took, I don't know, about 70, 80 hours to put together,
65 page document. And then you submit it and you essentially wait 8 months, and
you just get an email back saying you're not on it. And, yeah,
it broke me. I'm not gonna lie. Because I I think I put too many
eggs in this basket. Because in 3 years ago I applied and I didn't
have certain elements and went away and done that, but they weren't the right ones.
But they don't articulate that. Yeah. And it derailed my whole life.
Like, I'm not gonna lie, like, it just the way I've
treated myself and particularly my kids and my wife, and not
good. And that that's something I've found really hard with this. Like,
it just like, to step away from it or let it be, and I grieved
for a long time. But it wasn't until, you know, last we're away for a
week, and last Sunday, we stayed at my parents in Shepparton, and I'd had a
really, really rough week with my kids, and I've had been a
horrible dad and partner. I'll I'll admit it now. Yep. And there's a couple
of interactions and the way I left on Sunday and and something that my
wife texted me that my son said and it, like, it broke me. Like, I
I just had to leave and I I was bawling. I was in tears and,
like, it made me realize that, you know, we talk about
a lot, but putting things into perspective. Yeah. Like, and yeah.
Don't don't let something like that affect your whole life. Yeah. And I think
it was okay. I was able to acknowledge that it wasn't
the outcome I wanted, but more importantly that I needed to change and the way
I was wasn't acceptable. And I think going away and having that space
for a week really allowed me to realize that.
And yeah. So what I wanted to bring that up is that it's okay
to, you know, allow things to consume you or be disappointed by it because, like,
it that's fair enough. Yeah. But don't let it derail all areas of your life.
And I I I did, and luckily, it was only 2 weeks. I would've
preferred it to only be a week. Mhmm. Yeah. But, yeah, it's
really big kick in the guts when you get these texts from me. I'm not
I'm not gonna say it out loud, but, from something that your son
said to her about, you know, the way I've been acting and things like that.
And not many things can break you like that, mate. I know. And you
saw me, and I was and that was yeah. It did it really it made
me realize that, you know, works work, but, you know, what's really
important to the people in Yeah. In your life and Yep. Yeah. I
I think it's a bloody good super powers, isn't it? And it did. So now
I don't know if you've got anything to go with Jess here, but I want
you to share what you what you did on Monday in the car with me,
because I was still a bit, I don't know, a few other things haven't gone
well, and I'm trying to be better at just my fuse, mate. And that's
why you've been very good for me. Yeah. But you did this thing in the
car and at the time, I'm like, where's this going? But it was brilliant. So
do you wanna explain that because I really enjoyed it? I will. It's a real
simple thing. You are in life, you get more of what you focus on.
Real simple. And we use the analogy, like, I use it with the kids all
the time. Like, if imagine if you had a spotlight strapped to your forehead
and wherever that forehead's looking, wherever the spotlight shine, that's what you're gonna focus on.
That's what you're gonna get more of. Of. So if you're focusing on the negative
stuff, if you're focusing on things didn't go right, if you focus on things you
didn't do well, all those things, that's what's gonna manifest. And on on
the flip side, if you're if you're focused on having a different perspective, if you
focus on a bit more positivity, focus on what's important to you, you're
gonna get more of that, you know, through your mind and and eventually it filters
out and blocks out most of the negative stuff. So all I did in the
car was I set aside, I said, right, I want you to look around, the
car of the world around you. I wasn't in the mood for this either. He
wasn't. He looked at me and he just You're late, and I was a bit
flustered. I don't like being late. I hate being late. And we were late. And
so then he asked me to do this, and I'm like, fuck it, where's this
going? Yeah. But I loved it. I love it. I appreciate that. And he
did. When Bruno brought up, he was like, fucking hell, Kevin.
Is this shit you're doing? Move, please. I'm, I'll be honest with you.
I did it with my wife a lot before and she also gave him the
same look as he was saying, oh, here we go again. Another one of Paul's
things. But she also appreciated that my kids did it. Anyway,
so you literally go, right, Cyttie, I'm gonna give you 10 seconds. 10 seconds, look
around the world, look around the car, find as many things that are
red that you possibly can. Go. And I gave him 10 seconds, and he
scanned around, he's found things blah blah blah blah. And he goes angry 10 seconds.
Why am I doing this? And he goes, 5. I found 5. And I said,
okay. I didn't want you to tell me, but, yeah, that's awesome. And then I
sent it to him and I said, right. How many things did you find that
were blue? And he looked at me like, you bloody idiot. You didn't ask me
for blue. And he go and I said, how many did you find that were
blue? And he goes, none. And I said, exactly. I said, because you
only found what you're focusing on. Where your mind was looking for, that's
all you found, but you need to open your mind up and see what else
is going on around you and find the good things because not everything's bad, you
know what I mean? Not everything's falling to pieces. There's so many amazing things that
are happening in our business, in our friendship, in our families, those sorts of things.
And it's just a really quick simple analogy to go, holy shit. Stop being so
tunnel visioned Yeah. And open my mind up a little bit more.
And, yeah, it's a powerful little quick activity to go, man, I was so tunnel
vision and short minded and yeah. Oh, so once you said that, I'm
like, oh, it completely changed. It moved
all the unit. Yeah. I'm like, wow. Yeah. So good. And I I've
used it with a couple of people this week I've had meetings with. Yeah. And
they've loved it. And honestly, god, can I use it with my kids? We're alright.
And when this goes out on Monday morning, we're about to probably as this is
coming out, we're about to speak to, what, 14, 1500 kids? Yep.
And you're gonna use it there. I am. It gets brilliant. We're gonna use it.
Yeah. It's a big audience. Yep. But, yeah, about 500 students. Sorry. A bit of
GST on my end. Yeah. That's 1200 students. That's a massive crowd. Right? And,
but I'm but I hope it'll work and just lead into what we wanna get
across in just what you focus on is what you're gonna get. So yeah.
Yeah. Shit happens, and life is full of ups and downs and bumps and grinds,
but, let it hurt you, compress it, learn from it. We always talk about
learning from shit that's not going right. And that's what you learn. And I wanna
take my hat off to you because that Sunday we went away, it was bloody
tough, and I was there when you got that message and and it did. And
and he's I I love that Dale's man enough and open enough to go, you
know what? It broke me. I cried. I broke down. I broke multiple times. Yeah.
It hurt. And seeing your hell of that wasn't comfortable and wasn't nice, but I
really appreciated it. And then, you know what I mean? A day later, we both
having a beer together and 2 grown men, 40 years old, sat down and had
had a really open honest chat about things as well. And that helped our
relationship and and put you some things in perspective for us. We
gave each other a bit of a a game plan, I guess. Let's get let's
do it together. Yeah. And, mate, I think this week's been incredibly positive. Right?
The rest of that week was amazing. Yeah. And this week's been yeah. And I
can see you, I can see your the weight off your
shoulders a little bit. You're not beating yourself up at the moment?
No. I wasn't beating myself up. I
yeah. I don't know. I just and I that's what I mean. I work is
too much of my life. You know? Because I'm living and I'm trying to step
away and whole thing was that woulda allowed me to a little bit. Yeah. And
I suppose coming back to that, it's but that anyway, we're we're knuckling down.
We're getting things done, and things are opening up, and they always will. Yeah.
And it's just it's my it's all what it's all on me. No one else.
It's the narrative that I tell myself, and this is a problem people do, that
tell you the way you talk to yourself. Yeah. Yeah. So it is opening
up and things are getting good and, you know, there are always positives. It's, yeah.
Sometimes you just you need to sit through it, own it, and,
like, be honest about it, yeah, and move on. Yeah. But you know what? Allow
it was, mate, it was a huge part of our life, the 8 months. We
put the we did all the work, you know, put the submission in. We didn't
get it, and it bloody hurt. Right? But it also provided a really
good learning opportunity because we went back to them and we said, right. What didn't
we get right? And it was just one bloody small detail
that we didn't quite get right with our research stuff. And now we've gotta wait
another 2 and a half years to apply that. We had the one they wanted.
That's what we did. We put the wrong money in and it's bloody painful, but
once again, learning curve. Yeah. Yeah. And now we've let go of it. And we
we do an activity in our workshops. You know, dice them. You know, one of
the questions in there is what's something you've let go of lately that's benefited your
well-being. So now you're living and breathing your own workshop activity, mate. So
even know how to credit that game. I didn't know that question. There you go.
No rolling the dice to get to that one. But, yeah. And we talk a
lot about letting go and and and not happening about failure and those sorts of
things. And this last 3 weeks, we've had to live and breathe that.
Took us a couple of weeks, but we got there. And then this week, lo
and behold, you put positivity back out there, and we've had an absolutely
cracking 3 or 4 days. We have. Let's be honest. Like, it's it's been it's
been amazing. You know, business is pumping all of a sudden and,
yeah, some really exciting things in the horizon. So yeah. I mean, I like it.
And I like that you're determined. You've got a short term goal into a longer
term goal, hurdle task, and I can see the smile on your face. And
I've already seen it with the interactions with your kids back here Yeah. This week,
how much they're better. I'm gonna ask you that. They're awesome. Yeah. And mate, the
whole place feels better. Well done. Slowly slowly getting there. Yep. True party stuff.
And it's fun. Like, I'll learn from that as well. Right? Like, we all learn
from each other. So, it's unreal. But then go back to where we had
the week off and we were up in the Wodonga Alpine region. Yep.
We did a full road trip 5 days and it was
just bloody beautiful. Wasn't it? How refreshing was it
working with the people and the human beings in those real small
rural areas to pay attention. Back to me homeland, mate. Can I imagine? Yeah. That
was you, wasn't it? I was one of those crazy kids being on top of
walls. Will the ADHD die or fuck? I would have been like,
god, who's that kid? Yeah. It's funny. It's funny. You had a long diffuse with
those kids because you could relate to them right now. I was looking at them
and go, that was me. Out of respect for the teacher. I'm like, oh my
god. It was great. But, you know, I we always like to say things, mate.
And few things I took like to paint the picture, we worked with some schools
like, for example, Deadarang, give you a shout out. Deadarang Primary School, 18 kids in
the whole school, you know. Another school had 25 students in the
whole school, another school had 70. They were just really,
beautiful small schools. What I learned from them was the
power of that vertical structure of
the senior kids, the grade 6 kids being mates and working with the grade
1 and prep kids Yeah. And the sheer love and
value and support they have for those kids, and you don't get that in the
city schools. You do not. And it, mate, it
changed the whole culture of the school, the feel of the place, the love in
the place, and you could tell that everyone just loved being there.
Yeah. And I reckon just, yeah, city schools really need
to learn from those smalls. I know it's harder because of the scale, but they
need to be intentional with it. They need to put some time and effort into
it, and they're trying to get a better mentor system. A better
buddy. A better buddy system. Yeah. I think it's a bit, token token at
the moment. We do buddies. And as I said, I went to a, yeah, Steiner
School at Catandra West on a dairy farm, and I think the most at one
stage, we had 35 kids. The most time was, like, mid twenties. Yeah. And I
just thought it was normal that we're mates with everyone. Like, when I was in
grade 6, I was going to prep for birthdays, and I went to high school
and there's 1500 kids there. I'm like, woah. Holy shit. This is a little different.
Yeah. Well, there's no high there was no there didn't appear to be a hierarchy
at those schools. Bruh, bruh, the mega schools down the city where it is,
it's instant social status and hierarchy and too cool for school
and Yeah. Yeah. So, mate, city skid city kids bloody
let go of that ego for Christ's sakes. Yeah. I don't know how that happens.
I don't know how that happens either. No. But it is refreshing to see. Yeah.
Like, it it it is and just the whole community. I like the
teachers, you know, at recess and lunchtime, they're out eating with the kids and
playing with the kids and, you know, I think you love that, like, on the
staff room, there's no staff only sign and Nah. Kids are coming and
going into the staff room, grabbing a knife and fork out of the newspaper, grabbing
apples, having a chat to the staff. It was literally rubbing the shoulders of each
other. Whereas every school I worked at previously, big massive
sign, no students allowed. It automatically creates a divide. Oh,
correct. Yes. So so many things we learned from what they're doing in those little
rural schools. And I know I know it's different, but I still think you can
put things in practice down this way in the city, but it's
not for us to decide, is it? No, it's not for us to decide. We're
not in schools anymore. We go in, we go out. I know. The other thing
I bloody learnt was routine is important. Holy shit. You
go away with society, we go away for a road trip, and we, you know,
we both go from working out and going for a run or doing something every
single day, eating healthy, limiting the beers, and you go on a road trip with
a mate for work, and you finish that work, bucket golf, couple
of beers. Yeah. Only ran once, I think. You know what I mean? And it
was so hot that normally we'd go for a kick of the footy or something,
but I don't know. And when you're working and speaking all day and it's
hot, like, you you're wrecked, and they just keep multiplying,
multiplying. Yep. It's not as, yeah, it's not as glamorous as it sounds. It's
not as It's a lot nicer for me to be doing it as someone else.
So those weeks used to be Oh, I could imagine. When you're
you're away from your family too and, you know, things may not be going that
well. Yeah. There's things that go through your mind. Yeah. And then you
gotta get up and be happy and, whoo, we're here. You know, like, and
talk through it for hours straight and then you do it again. And it's,
yeah, it's a different world. So it is I just think it's so much nicer,
yeah, being able to share things with people. Oh, shit, yeah. I get you. And
the last thing I wanna share that I learned was just,
the the happiness scale of those kids we were working with, and you asked every
single one of them, what do you do outside of school? Yes. Do you? And
they're all either riding dirt bikes, they're riding bikes, they're playing footy, or they're playing
netball, they're playing sport, or they fish, or that every one of them
were doing something like that. Yeah. How often did we hear
someone say, I wanna be a gamer. I wanna do hardly came across a lot.
The ones that were gamers and stuff, they were the ones that struggled in
that environment. Yeah. Did like, they're the ones that really had anxiety
and social, like, social problems. Yeah. Because
that screen or the device is their scapegoat. Do you know what I mean? That's
their safety blanket. And then you get all these noises and
stuff going on. They can't handle it. They can't process it. Yeah. So it
made, yeah, as personal as a dad, and I know you're the same,
just made me realize how important, you know, that connection is and
not just shoving a screen in front of your kids. I know it's easy and
we all do it, but, yeah, that really hit home.
Yep. The kids that were really happy, healthy, connected, and
wanted to chat and just love life, they weren't there was
no screens. No. No. They weren't doing it. Life, weren't they? They're doing stuff and
pushing boundaries and Yep. Yep. And but that needs to be pushed from us and
the parents rather than the same. Yeah. That's not that's not teachers. That's parents. Like,
and it always will be. So, yeah, I think there's plenty of time for screens,
like, what we're doing today. We're just sitting here tapping on a computer. Like,
you'd most people do that the rest of their life. Let kids be kids at
least, you know, and then And model it as a parent model it. Understandable. And
I know that's what you said, and I said the same when we get home.
We're gonna definitely try and and we were bloody good at it to begin with,
but try and do more intentional play with our kids and and model it and
get out. And even if it's 20 minutes half hour, but just a little bit
every day and model that behavior. So, and you tried to do that with your
cricket come back a couple of years ago. Oh.
Never bowling. Spin off 4
steps. Oh, wow. No. You know you know when,
when it's time to really say no more, and, yeah, I well and
truly know that now. Yeah. I did not really enjoy it. Yeah. That's awesome.
And going back in our podcast 2 weeks ago with Conan,
I'm still searching for the what I'm gonna what I'm gonna challenge myself with. I
haven't decided not yet. Well, you're gonna do a marathon, you said? Yeah. I know,
but I don't know if I'm gonna be bothered running 42 k's I think, but
I might start with the half up. But if anyone's out there listening, you wanna
you wanna shoot me an idea or set me a challenge, I'll happily look at
it and maybe accept it, but I can't quite put my finger on what I'm
gonna do to challenge myself and push myself and train for. The
missus did a 14 k run last week and and trained for that and smashed
it. So she's kicking goals there, but, yeah, I need to pinpoint something.
I don't know what it is yet. Hi Rocks, mate. There you go. Hi Rocks.
I don't know. I don't know. We had all Lacey on the podcast weeks ago.
He keeps mentioning, man, I've got a challenge for him, but he hasn't come through
yet. So if you're listening, mister Ackerman, shoot me through a challenge, please. That'd be
amazing. I wanna take this in a completely different direction. I've been hanging to
talk about this. You're gonna laugh when it comes up. I think you already know
what I wanna talk about. I don't. You don't? I've been hanging to talk about
this for a few weeks. A few weeks back, Sadie and I were in the
car, we're going through the city, and, Sadie was driving, I was
in the passenger seat, we're stuck in traffic. And there was a
I do not need it. There was it could completely be random. There was a
girl who passed, I reckon maybe 18, 90, 20 years of age. Lovely girl. And
she had she was just walking past, I was stuck in traffic, looked out the
window. We sort of just met eyes to each other, gave a little smile, nothing
in it, don't worry. And, and she stopped and put her
fist up like a like a fist, like a ball of a fist. And she
did the rock paper scissors motion to me in the car. And I was like,
hang on a minute, what, what's going and then I was like, ah, shit, she
wants to play rock paper scissors with me. And so sure enough, I was in
the car and she was on the sidewalk, we played some rock paper scissors while
we were stuck in traffic. Couple of games, had a bloody laugh.
She waved, I waved. She carried on. I'll never see her again in my life.
Never. Ever. And then you tried with others. It was real awkward.
No. It wasn't awkward. It bloody worked. And and I just
thought, how sick was that? We we had a company called The School Play,
and then there's this random girl who saw me in a car stack and
was like, I'm gonna stop and play rock, paper, scissors with this, a complete random.
Oh, it's cool. And it made my day, didn't it? I was like, that was
such an awesome bloody interaction with someone I do not know. Took 5 seconds, 10
seconds. And then we went through Guzman and Gomez to the drive through and I
set aside him, like, I'm gonna see if I can play rock, paper, scissors with
the drive through cheek, and he's like, can you both? That was good, mate. It
was good. And she did it. I put my fist up. I was like And
you did it at Maccas. And I did it at Maccas. And, lo and behold,
both drive through attendants were like, yeah, let's do it. And we played and played
with it. We had a bit of a laugh and carried on. And so I'm
really keen to create a movement. I was white noise. I'm so keen to start
a movement, a rock, paper, scissors, universal movement. What I don't
what I can't decide on is what's gonna be the universal
symbol. So for example, you pulled up at the car, you're in the traffic lights,
you look to your right, there's another person in their car, are you this sort
of if you just stick your fist up like this, it's gonna look a bit
weird. Right? They're gonna be like, what is that? And if this is gonna say
I really woke up on camera, if you start doing this with your fist Yeah.
Then it looks even worse. Yeah. It does. So I don't know. We need we
need people. Scissors? Scissors, yeah, whether you do the and then the
scissors symbol, but people, we need to come up with a universal
symbol for when you can just without talking, nonverbal communication,
you can look at someone, you do this symbol, and they know, right, this person
wants to play rock, paper, scissors, me. Quick game, interaction, bit of
play, move on, you both have a laugh. And they're not gonna be epic. You
know, in Australia we flash our lights when there's a cop car, we flash our
lights, that's universal symbol for you or you flash the lights. Yeah. Slow
down. So why can't we have a universal symbol for rock, paper, scissors?
All I get bring it in. Bring it in. Bring it in. I haven't done
what it is yet. If you got any ideas, please send them in, let us
know. But I encourage you out there
to start playing some random rock, paper, scissors with some randoms out in the world.
I love that. And, mate, I would love it if in 6 months' time I'm
sitting here Someone did it to you. And someone's done it to me and it's
caught on. I'm like, fucking told you. And check your number plate. If it's
got 348 on it, you're gonna die rich. This is true. That's true. It might
not just be in Hong Kong. Yeah. I love it. Alright. Ladies and gentlemen, short
and shallow one today because we're in the bunker. It's 35 degrees. We are sweating
over here. There is no air con in our podcast studio.
We've loved being back. Sorry for taking this week off. Thanks to everyone
out there. Enjoy your week ahead, and let go of whatever it is you hold
on to. Correct. See you later. See you.