Validating Spiritual Visions

Ever seen something you couldn't explain? Felt a connection beyond this world? Join JClay, Troy Washington, and special guest Loretta Sharingroup on "Validating Spiritual Visions." We're diving deep into past life regression, QHHT, and the profound experiences that shake our understanding of reality. This isn't your everyday spiritual talk – get ready to question everything you think you know. Your journey of discovery starts here.

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Creators & Guests

Host

JClay

JClay's music ignites a transformative experience, fostering spiritual growth, mindfulness, and a positive mindset through powerful and uplifting rap.

Host

Troy Washington

Real Estate Broker

Guest

Loretta Sharingroup

Loretta is a certified QHHT past life regression hypnotist and content creator discussing a myriad of spiritual experiences!! Loretta can be found on YouTube: @Loretta_Sharingroup.

What is Perfect Mode?

"Perfect Mode" invites you on a transformative odyssey to discover the extraordinary within the ordinary. Hosted by the dynamic duo of JClay, a rapper with a spiritual twist, and Troy Washington, a realtor with a mindset of abundance, this podcast is a sanctuary for those seeking to elevate their existence. Together, they explore the realms of personal growth, mental clarity, and spiritual enlightenment, offering unfiltered insights into living a life unchained by societal expectations. Tune in for your weekly dose of inspiration and embark on a journey to align with your highest self.

JClay: 00:02

If I reminded you that you are perfect, would you argue me down or or step into your perfection? Welcome to perfect.

JClay: 00:10

Welcome to perfect.

JClay: 00:11

Welcome to perfect. There are no excuses, no expectations, and we explore the world without limitations. I'm Jay Clay, rapper, and spiritual teacher. With my co host Troy Washington, your friendly neighborhood realtor. Let's be real.

JClay: 00:28

So let's be perfect. Let's be perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect.

Troy Washington: 01:11

What up? What up?

Troy Washington: 01:13

Welcome to perfect mode. And first off, let me start by telling y'all that we love y'all. We're grateful for the opportunity to be anywhere, sharing our thoughts, hopefully, in helping you realize that you are perfect. And the only reason, and I mean the only reason you would think that you're not perfect, is if you look into this person next to you or that person next to them and saying, I'm not them. But guess what?

Troy Washington: 01:34

You are you, and that's all you need. And I promise you, by the end of this, you'll be telling us and teaching us how we're perfect as well. Of course, it's yours truly, Troy Washington, your friendly neighborhood realtor. I have my boy, J Clay, spiritual rapper and teacher. And then I got we got a special guest for you today.

Troy Washington: 01:51

We got a special guest for you today, and our special guest is a certified QHHT, past life regression hypnotist. And I promise this content creation that she brings is is is beyond any other. What's up? I got my girl, Loretta. What up, Loretta?

Troy Washington: 02:07

What up, Jay? How y'all doing today?

JClay: 02:10

We're good. Go ahead. Go ahead, Loretta. I am

Loretta Sharingroup: 02:11

doing I'm doing I'm doing wonderful. It's an honor. I am on the perfect mode podcast, y'all. It's an honor being here. So I'm very excited about today.

JClay: 02:26

Yeah. Have what's a, I just gotta, I gotta say what up, what up to everybody in perfect land in perfect world on the perfect day. Happy mother. This happy mother's day to all the mothers. Happy mother's day to you as well, Loretta.

JClay: 02:38

And, yeah, it's it's a great day. It's a great day to talk about spiritual stuff.

Troy Washington: 02:46

Nice. And and to to JClay's point, validating spiritual visions, validating spiritual visions, man. Like, where was y'all at? Where was we at? Was we even here?

Troy Washington: 02:58

What was we at when y'all came up with this? What up, Charlie?

JClay: 03:01

Yeah. So me and Loretta, we were just talking about, like, what what? Because we really wanted her on the show. Like, for y'all that don't know Loretta Loretta has a YouTube channel called Loretta sharing group. And on, Loretta sharing group, she shares she says, things about, like, NDEs.

JClay: 03:22

Like like, people were speaking about NDEs. And what NDEs are are near death experiences and all the spiritual things that they they have and that they they they they experience why in that near death state. And a lot of these stories have similarities to it. A lot of my different it it touches on a lot of spiritual things that that people do and say. And and and even that to an extent is is spiritual visions.

JClay: 03:47

But I I I want Loretta to kinda speak on that a little bit more too, because this is something that needs to be known. But yeah. Go ahead.

Loretta Sharingroup: 03:56

Thank you. Thank you so much. Yes. I, I have conversations

JClay: 04:03

with different people who have

Loretta Sharingroup: 04:03

had spiritual experiences and we all have had them, y'all. We have all had different spiritual experiences. And so spiritual vision was something that I thought would be nice to talk about specifically on Mother's Day, talk about, validating spiritual vision that our children may have and validating the spiritual visions that we have. Even if it's like seeing a sparkle in the corner of your eye and then you look and by the time you look it's gone and it's like, did I? Did I?

Loretta Sharingroup: 04:39

Yeah. You saw it. Because every time we validate it, we're letting the universe know I'm open it. I'm open to with this. I believe it and it'll happen more and more.

Loretta Sharingroup: 04:49

So, yeah, I thought this was a great topic, Jay, to talk about today.

JClay: 04:55

Yeah. That was funny too. Oh, I'll say it's real quick. It was funny too on Mother's Day. Because you know, I'm I'm a spiritual rapper.

JClay: 05:02

I I do all this this stuff in the spiritual realm. And with sharing these stories, I remember when my mom had said something recently, like, yeah. I've I've had my encounters with spirits. Like, what? What?

JClay: 05:12

I've never heard this one. You didn't tell me any of this growing up. Maybe I would have been scared back then. Who knows? But it's it's just funny that I'm finding out more and more people have had experiences, but they never really shared about it or talked about it because they they didn't want to be called crazy or they didn't want to add fear to the collective or just so many other reasons, but go ahead Troy.

Troy Washington: 05:34

So so I'm gonna throw this out there and then, I'm gonna let I'm gonna let Loretta just kind of go in, but you know, I I I'm grateful for the conversation as well because I I did grow up in a household, and I'm a I'm gonna talk to y'all the way that we talked about it in my house. It wasn't spiritual visions. It wasn't spirits. It was ghosts. So, you know, in my crib, you know, if you grew up if if you come around my grandmother, you come around my mom, they got plenty of ghost stories of things that they've witnessed themselves in our house or around our area or just, you know, just different places.

Troy Washington: 06:06

And that's kind of the that's kind of the tone at which that it's been talked about because nobody looks at it from a spiritual even though it's a, you know, it's a spiritual thing. That's the way that I grew up in it. And, because of that, I know that number of people that have grown up with me, especially the younger generation, we have our own thought process on, you know, what we may have witnessed, what it means. But not only that, just we think that we see, which, you know, I I like when you say, you know, you see the little sparkles in your eye. But, yeah, definitely, grateful for you to be here.

Troy Washington: 06:38

Can't wait to hear everything that you gotta say about it. And one other thing, there's a guy that, his name is, Allen Stevenson, and I interviewed him on my radio show one time, and he actually has a a NDE page. And, you know, he went into talking about, you know, what he saw, was, you know, out. And so, you know, I'm definitely wanna hear about some of that as well. But shout out again.

Troy Washington: 06:56

Appreciate you being here today.

Loretta Sharingroup: 07:02

Yes. I'm loving it. I'm excited. So yeah. Okay.

Loretta Sharingroup: 07:05

So real quick, y'all. I wanted to share this I have a latest guest. I haven't posted up his video yet. So I had a gentleman by the name of Eric Taylor, he's an astrologer. So he ended up in a 40 day coma y'all, like long term coma, but he was having all these spiritual experiences, he was jumping timelines, he was just having these dynamic experiences while he was in a coma.

Loretta Sharingroup: 07:37

And so he was given the option of he could eat his 3 boys, He was given the option of seeing 1 of the boys 5 years in the future or being able to visit his house, right? And this was when he was in this coma. Don't ask me how. Don't ask me who gave him the joy. So, he chose to see to go to his home.

Loretta Sharingroup: 08:05

And so he astro traveled y'all to his house and lay, like, kind of laid back on the couch and his son saw him. His son saw his spirit. And, his son ran to his mom and said, Mom, I see dad on the couch. He's gonna be okay. Dad's gonna be okay.

Loretta Sharingroup: 08:31

And she looked at him and she was like, okay, baby. Okay. Okay. Like, no matter how crazy that sounded, she received that blessing from him. And that's what I wanted to talk about is validating those that spiritual vision that our kids have and when he came out of the coma, his wife asked him.

Loretta Sharingroup: 08:54

Did you did you come to the house? And he was like, yeah. He had the something on

JClay: 08:56

his yeah. Yeah. I came to the house.

Loretta Sharingroup: 09:02

Because he was convinced she was cheating on him and everything. Y'all, it was hilarious.

Troy Washington: 09:07

He said he was about to go he said he's about to go see it,

Loretta Sharingroup: 09:10

Okay. Exactly.

JClay: 09:11

Let me let me catch

Loretta Sharingroup: 09:13

you on the act. Yeah. But,

Troy Washington: 09:15

I got a question for you real quick before you go on. For the listeners that might not know what astral projection is and what that means and, you know, how you even get to that, can you kind of talk to that a little bit more?

Loretta Sharingroup: 09:27

I mean, all I know is we have we are multidimensional beings. Right? So we have these incredible we time, but apparently, yes, we can go into a meditation. We can do this while we're dreaming where we can go into other dimensions and other places. Uh-uh spiritually energetically.

Loretta Sharingroup: 10:00

And that's apparently, that's what happened. I've never done it consciously, so I wouldn't have I wouldn't know. But, but, yeah, he was able to do that.

JClay: 10:09

And, he

Loretta Sharingroup: 10:10

he was able to he saw her interacting with her business partner. He saw his son and was shocked that the son saw him, and they kinda looked at each other. It was incredible. But I just wanted to talk about, you know, our kids have not been on the planet as long as we have. Right?

Loretta Sharingroup: 10:32

They've not been exposed to the conditioning pro pro grams as long as we have, and so they have spiritual vision. And we do too, but we we have to acknowledge it and exercise that muscle. Right? So, you know, there's the real issue that I really wanted to bring forward is I have these guests on all the time y'all. And many, many times, if I ask them how was your childhood, they'll say, you know, I was able to tell when somebody was about to transition or I had a grandmother who had passed away years ago and I saw them and interacted with them or I saw my angel.

Loretta Sharingroup: 11:15

And many times they'll say when

JClay: 11:15

I went to tell my

Loretta Sharingroup: 11:16

parents, they said, stop saying that. You sound crazy. Don't talk about that. So, they're being told that it's a secret or there's something wrong with it. And so what happens is is they push those abilities away from them.

Loretta Sharingroup: 11:37

And so, on my platform, I always like to share and encourage parents to validate what your children see and experience, spiritually validated. Just because it may not be our experience, it doesn't mean that, that they don't have these experiences. It's important to do that. For them and for ourselves, I mean I've grown. I've done it myself.

Loretta Sharingroup: 12:06

I'm a let y'all talk, but I've done it myself when my daughter has come to me, and I've said, oh, baby. You were just asleep. And I was like, oh my god. I did it. I did.

JClay: 12:15

I did what I tell people

Loretta Sharingroup: 12:17

what y'all got to say.

JClay: 12:20

Yeah. It's it's oh, go ahead. Go ahead, Troy.

Troy Washington: 12:22

Yeah. No. Go ahead, Jay. You got it.

JClay: 12:23

When I I mean, it's it's just interesting all all the things. Like, we we like to explain things away. And when we explain things away, it kinda closes the door to a lot of things. Like, oh, that's probably just this or that's just that. And then you don't you don't wonder anymore.

JClay: 12:38

And and part of that wonder is is finding out and exploring. And we we become a society almost where we put everything in categories. We explained everything to a tee that that's just it. That's the end of it. So like we there are people who don't enjoy life.

JClay: 12:52

We have all these things around us, but they don't enjoy it only for the sole reason because they explained away everything in their life into a neat little box and just kept it there. When the truth is everybody's experience is different. Like, even even the NDEs, like you said, like, everyone is is different and unique. So it is it's it's cool that we're talking about this, but we can also bridge about just generality and how we can have more fun in life as well. Yeah.

JClay: 13:18

Yeah.

Troy Washington: 13:19

So I I'll say this about it all. So so number 1, it's it's my mind went a 1,000 different places. I can't even lie while you were talking, but it was out in engaging in what you were saying. So number 1, I would tell you that I know the astrial projection thing to be true at least in my own world. Right?

Troy Washington: 13:37

And the only reason why I say that because there are times for myself. Now I may not have recognized it at that, and then I also don't know how far I could have gone if I haven't if I don't have a built up resistance, which is the stuff that you're talking about that through time, people telling us something is real or something is make you look crazy or to make you feel a certain way. So there's a built up resistance within me that does not allow me to experience these things in a way that I feel like I should experience them. But there have been plenty times where I have been sitting back, and, maybe there was a sense of depression. I don't know.

Troy Washington: 14:11

Or maybe there was a sense of not being connected to the people around me or feeling lonely or feeling overwhelmed in in in circumstances where I've been sitting down, and I can literally see myself. And what I mean by see my it's it's it's a weird thing. So I I would I would have never thought of it as astrial projection. I just thought maybe I was just out of my mind. But in those moments when I saw myself, I would look at myself and question the mood or question how I feel or question what I'm doing, and then it incites me to get back into my body and go.

Troy Washington: 14:49

Now, again, it's a weird feeling because the times when I've been sitting there, I know that I'm sitting there, but I feel removed from myself. Now you would think that, oh, well, if you've mastered being able to remove yourself, which I haven't mastered it, why don't you just go and go to somebody that has, like like, oh, guy. Right? But, again, when I say the built up resistance that we have from people telling you even somebody telling me, like, you cannot see yourself, it's backwards thinking in itself. And then, you know, my last little piece to this is just to touch on the the the resistance that I'm saying I have, where it came from, and how it's built up over time, and then how you continue to feed that over and over again.

Troy Washington: 15:33

My just like you said, there have been things that I have literally said to my kids. And in that moment, I think to myself, why did I say that? Not saying that it was wrong, but I know that I'm building a resistance for something that they might not need a resistance to going forward. Right? And then, again, fast forwarding fast forwarding to adulthood, revisiting those things over and over again with them to further nail the hammer down and saying, well, I know it might not be like this, that unsure sureness in, you know, your responses to people.

Troy Washington: 16:09

So I I I definitely 100% wholeheartedly agree with everything that you're saying. And, Jay, I know you probably might have something to say, but if not, Loretta, you can go ahead and come back in further. Go for it. Yeah.

JClay: 16:20

I got a, well, I got a question where for Loretta, if you if you don't mind sharing because I kind of know a bit of your story. Like, do you mind sharing how you got into this? Like, how do you gotten to start it interviewing the NDEs, in the ears, and why?

Loretta Sharingroup: 16:34

Whoo. Y'all ready for that. Y'all ready? You sure you ready for me to do that?

JClay: 16:38

I'm I'm ready because I I just know how helpful your story can be to so many people. So

Loretta Sharingroup: 16:42

So my entry into the spiritual space, y'all, begin similar to a lot of people is through pain. And Jade don't talk about ain't nothing they pain, they ain't the same. There's not a search state certain thing. It's pain. The illusion of pain, the experience of mental pain, right?

Loretta Sharingroup: 17:02

So, I was just in a tumultuous custody battle with my ex husband and just fell into a depression, financial attorney's fees, I was isolated, family was away from me and, I just became severely depressed, especially once I realized that all he wanted to do was fight. He didn't wanna win, I could deal with him wanting to win, I could deal with that. But his intention, his goal was the fight, right? That was the way he could do the financial abuse, mental anguish, keep the family in crisis. And so y'all, I'm gonna talk about stuff, trigger alert for everyone.

Loretta Sharingroup: 17:52

I wanted to die. I just remember telling God, this isn't fun anymore. I don't wanna be here. This I'm not having fun. This is not fun anymore.

Loretta Sharingroup: 18:04

And so as I began to entertain those thoughts, and that's what it starts with. That's a whole other conversation is our thoughts, and we can follow the thoughts or we can challenge them, which I'll encourage everyone to do. If you have a thought and it does not serve you, don't just follow it, you know? Mhmm. But it's it starts with that thought.

Loretta Sharingroup: 18:28

Like you were talking about, Troy, like over time that build up I really began to formulate a plan, you know, okay, I'll do it when the kids are with with dad because he keeps saying I'm no good for them. You know I started to believe that. And so. I just I don't know how it started. I don't know if I just went on YouTube and said, what happens when you die?

Loretta Sharingroup: 18:56

Because religion at that point, though I had grown up in the church, it did nothing for me. I didn't wanna hear nothing about no Bible, all right. It just, it did nothing for me at that point when you're at a place where the desire to live is is no longer there, you need something, something substantive. And I'm not saying that religion doesn't do that, but for me, it just didn't have what I was looking for. And so I I I started getting these videos of near death experiences.

Loretta Sharingroup: 19:29

And I and this was before the podcasters like myself would highlight near death experiences. This was you had to search for each person if they had a YouTube, if they had a story, you had to search them out. But I became obsessed with these stories and I, you know, at that point, I was not yet in the vibration of joy. I didn't feel joy, you know, but the stories were the experiences were doing something for me. They were doing something for me.

Loretta Sharingroup: 20:05

And it was the only thing y'all that I did that I wanted to do. Right you go you you you wake up you get dressed for work. You take the kids to school, you know, but it was the only thing that that I did that that I was drawn to do until I saw a lady who talked about she had. Overdosed on pills on purpose and was revived. And she very matter of factly said, we reincarnate here over and over again to have different experiences and we assign different roles with our Soul family to have different experiences.

Loretta Sharingroup: 20:47

And when I heard that, it was like, that was that was what I was looking for. I'm dramatic y'all. But that was my response. That was what I was looking for. I felt like I had been in a desert and I had finally found some ice cold water, y'all.

Loretta Sharingroup: 21:03

And so when that happened, it just I began to consume material. It was almost like being freshly born where it's like, oh my goodness, I am an eternal being. I did I probably asked this man to do this, you know, let me investigate who I am then. What does that mean? Who are we?

Loretta Sharingroup: 21:29

Why are we here? Why are we engaging in this? So, of course, I studied A Course in Miracles, Conversations with God, all kinds of books that educated me on who we are, and that was it, y'all. After that, I just I started teaching the course on the YouTube on my YouTube and then started, having conversations with near death experiences. So I always say I'm still in the awakening process.

Loretta Sharingroup: 22:01

Like, I'm still waking up. You know, every conversation, every video I have with a near death experience or spiritual experience or, I'm in the process of, you know but thank you for asking, Troy, and allowing me to share my experience.

Troy Washington: 22:19

So I'm a tell you off the top. I have okay. So you know what? Let me okay. I was gonna read what he says.

Troy Washington: 22:28

Let's read what, Charlie says. So shout out, Charlie.

Loretta Sharingroup: 22:31

Hey, Charlie.

JClay: 22:33

Hey, Charlie. That's my buddy.

Troy Washington: 22:34

Giving us a giving us a little bit of some some. And he said, I had various spiritual experiences in childhood and up to my thirties, including being out of my body age 9 or 10 after hitting my head off the road on a bicycle accident. I dismissed them until I got meningitis in 2018. That gave me a brain injury which took 2 years to recover. However, my consciousness was fine, and with that interference from my brain, I remembered and still validated my spiritual experiences, and I think that's pretty pretty, pretty pretty cool.

Troy Washington: 23:08

Even even recognizing it. Now I I this is what I say to you, Loretta. Alright. So it's a I know this is about validating spiritual visions, and that's what pretty much what Charlie just touched on. Once he was able to be in a I don't want to call it a situation, but being a state of being, he was able to sit back and and and revisit things and then validate them in a way that made sense.

Troy Washington: 23:34

Right? Mhmm. But here's the deal. This conversation is beyond validating spiritual visions. I'm gonna tell you off the top.

Troy Washington: 23:41

Just you telling your story just took me beyond. So I guess the the first thing that I I I wanna kinda touch on is in the beginning, you said you had to find something that was substantive to you. And at that time the Bible was not that thing. And I know it's funny enough that there's a sentiment that that this world kinda holds that and and, again, I get it. I don't wanna say that it's wrong because what's right for you is right for you.

Troy Washington: 24:15

But it's like when this is going on, go to the bible. Go to the bible. This is gonna solve your problems. And, you know, what I thought about so I I'm like you in a sense. Right?

Troy Washington: 24:27

I didn't have the same experience, but there were things that I've gone through in my life that the bible was not substantive enough for me. And the reason why that ended up happening was because if you have something your entire life that everybody tells you is important, important, important, important, but you also see that they don't follow the rules and the laws of it. You there's an internal thing that's going on in you that says, well, how important could it be? Right? Now I and, again, that's what kind of takes the sauce off of it for you.

Troy Washington: 25:05

So you want me to find something that's interesting to me that somebody's made interesting to me. You want me to find something to lean on that everybody says that you should lean on, but don't lean on themselves. This is not gonna work right now. This is just not gonna work right now. And I love the fact, and and the reason why I point that out is because I want everybody to understand that you have to find something that's substantive to you, something that sparks your interest, something that holds your heart.

Troy Washington: 25:33

Now you know what? I I I don't like to, I guess, promote the fact that the thing that caught your mind, which again, this is your story. But again, the thing that caught you was a byproduct of where you were. Meaning, like, I don't wanna be here anymore. Mhmm.

Troy Washington: 25:50

Let me seek out more debt. Right? Right? But in it, there was purpose that was found because you were not afraid. And I think that that's the beautiful part of it all.

Troy Washington: 26:00

So, you know, I love the fact that finding something substantive and not substantive and not allowing people to point to you what you feel what you should feel is substantive. Because what'll happen is people appoint to things that don't mean anything, and now the end result is completely different. You have to be able to look within yourself and say, you know, though this is something that everybody might shun, everybody might look upon and say, why are you looking at that? Especially, why you're going through what you're going through and allow yourself to be open to find that seed that you need to realize. Well, you know what?

Troy Washington: 26:34

Maybe this was my plan. Maybe I was supposed to go this way. Maybe I was supposed to see it like this, and now I have a I have that testimony and that story to tell to get everybody else. But go ahead, Jay. That's just my thoughts on it.

Troy Washington: 26:46

I told you it was a it's a little a lot a lot.

JClay: 26:48

Yeah. I I got a lot too, but I'm I'm I'm a little bit into to one thing because it kinda also goes off of the spiritual topic, and I and I wanna get back to that. But the but but actually, it's part of it. Loretta, you brought up that, sometimes we've assigned roles, and that's something that you learn through the NDE experience. Like, we we assign roles to certain people and ourselves.

JClay: 27:09

And what's cool about that is if we allow ourselves to to step outside the moment and ask why, like, okay. Why does this keep happening? Like like you mentioned with your ex, why does he wanna keep fighting? Like, he doesn't even wanna win. Like, yeah, you won his argument.

JClay: 27:23

He doesn't even want that. And he wants to keep like like, why? What what's the purpose of it? And and maybe in that moment, you might not have found a purpose, but I I feel like just from your your state of joy, you found a purpose in that too. Like, oh, this was meant to be.

JClay: 27:36

And and and and I'll touch on some of the interviews I've seen of NDEs where, like, people might say in one life, they are that person that causes the conflict. And then the other one, they're the person who is receiving the effects of that conflict. And that when you think about it, that's the the only real way to experience what a thing is. You know, like like, even even how I I call it the the rebellion period in a sense. Like, we we learn something.

JClay: 28:05

We we learn from the bible. We all kinda came up from, like, a a bible basis. But then in order to know if this is really true, you have to say, man, I'm not trying to hear all that. Forget that. I'm gonna go off on my own and learn some things.

JClay: 28:17

And then you can actually make it a more informed decision because you tried it with it. You tried it without it, and you can come to your own sense of truth. And I I just think that that's just all so cool.

Troy Washington: 28:26

Yeah. And and and and just kinda piggyback on Jay. I always just say let the truth like, you see it all day. There the we we lay examples all day just in our natural behavior. Right?

Troy Washington: 28:39

And so what I mean by that is that, you know, y'all are talking about both of y'all are talking about how how we assign our role or we we dictate where we're going. And the the craziest part about it, it peep it's hard for people to believe that before I got here, I decided what I want to do. But everything in your entire makeup

JClay: 28:59

Mhmm.

Troy Washington: 28:59

Not only that. Everything that you read, not only that, every direction that you've been given is about story. Like, it it just shows you the habit of a being. The habit of a being is to create a pathway. Like, we literally when we wake up in the morning, the first thing that we do is think about what we're going to do.

Troy Washington: 29:15

Like, there there's never a time where we don't plan ever.

JClay: 29:20

And so,

Troy Washington: 29:20

you know, it's just if you just look at the nature of it, you know, you you you can see how we cannot be apart from my nature. But, Loretta, I wanna bring you back in, you know, and and and give us a little bit more tea.

Loretta Sharingroup: 29:33

Yeah. And you know what? And that goes into more of about spiritual vision. You know, I was thinking about it and I know Charlie is has is on, the chat with us. Shout out to Charlie Bannon.

Loretta Sharingroup: 29:48

He's I just interviewed him. He his story is very similar to mine. But he was telling me that he has a friend who was involved in a horrible divorce. And because of that, she will not allow herself to be loved, right? So when people show up for her, she doesn't see it.

Loretta Sharingroup: 30:14

And so spiritual vision isn't just isolated to what we see in our natural eyes. It's also our experience, our perception. And so he had to break it down for her and say like, so and so did this to you, so and so did this for you, they gave this to you, they love you, you are loved, you are unconditionally loved and she didn't, she told, it was like, she totally didn't see it. So it impacted her vision to the point where she was not able to have spiritual vision. And that's what happened with me y'all is when I was able to wake up to who we are and open up to the concept that, yeah, we plan this.

Loretta Sharingroup: 31:06

I I plan there's a book that I wanna put out there, Your Soul's Plan by a gentleman by the name of Robert Schwartz that talks about this kind of pre birth planning and everybody is not going to adopt this kind of thing, but it whether it was true or not, it freed me. Why? Because we are not victims of the world we see. Right? That's a lesson in A Course in Miracles.

Loretta Sharingroup: 31:34

It validated from me, you are not this is not happening to you. You are happening to life. You are the orchestrator of this whole play. And once you get to that point, then you're able to step into your personal power and say, you know what? If I created this hell because hell isn't reserved for when we die.

Loretta Sharingroup: 32:01

You know? I know I personally don't believe in a hell unless we send ourselves to hell, but we're very much able to experience hell here, right? We can miscreate that. And so I'm like, if I was able to create this chaos and this hell that has stolen my peace, then I can simply recreate. I can create something different through my beliefs, my thoughts, my speech, and my actions, right?

Loretta Sharingroup: 32:34

If and and I always say that it starts with the belief that we are fractals of God. We are not powerless. So let y'all talk now because I could

JClay: 32:45

go on a tangent. Hey, you what you got, Jay? You got some? Because I

Troy Washington: 32:47

But I I was just gonna I was gonna say I I

JClay: 32:48

I love all

Troy Washington: 32:49

of that.

JClay: 32:49

Like,

JClay: 32:51

yeah,

JClay: 32:52

I I am a true believer that we are all fractals of God. And because of that, we are all powerful. Like, we we we have so much control over things that we don't realize. And sometimes those spiritual visions, like you said, it it's a way to remind us of who we are of what we're capable of, but it also snaps us back into real reality because sometimes we get caught up in our physical stuff. Like I gotta do this.

JClay: 33:15

Like you said, Joe, I

JClay: 33:16

got, I

JClay: 33:16

got this to do. I got this long list of stuff and then you might see 777 like, oh wait, what does that mean? That it brought you back into the moment instead of being, you know, far ahead into the future or rethinking about the past and that the moment is where the magic happens.

Troy Washington: 33:31

So, you know, just kinda piggyback on both of y'all and specific you, Loretta, when you talk about, you know, it's one one of my biggest, talks in my house or just in the world that I live in is it's your world. I tell everybody that, like, you know, it's it is literally your world. And so the sentiment that I try to pass on to my kids and also, you know, just kinda reinforce it myself is the fact that, you wanna talk about power. And I know a lot of times people look at, manipulating manipulating people as a bad thing. Now I think that people can use their power in a way that's not necessarily helpful to all people in an instant.

Troy Washington: 34:12

Overall, it's always helpful to them, number 1. But in an instant, it might not feel that way. But I am definitely a believer in, you know, being a fractal, but also being a manipulate manipulator of my world. And so I always have to tell my kids that, like, you have an opportunity, regardless of what the world looks like, to change the dynamic of it in any moment. And so just kind of give an example.

Troy Washington: 34:35

If you have somebody that's ridiculously in your mind, cantankerous and belligerent and, you know, wanna be crazy, do something that only you would do to that person and see how you can change the dynamic of it. And that just goes to show you the flow of energy that we have that you can you can do it even even on this in this conversation. There are key words or elements that any one of us can say that can spark something in the other 2. And it just goes to show you just the amount of power that you have, but not recognize it, recognizing it, and seeing it that way is, you know, what's key. It was is the reason why we don't recognize our power or are able to express our spiritual visions in the way that we feel because we don't feel like we even have power to do that.

JClay: 35:21

Go ahead. Real quick. Or to both of y'all, have y'all had any significant visions that, you know, was the spiritual vision? And, like, what was the circumstances surrounding that?

Loretta Sharingroup: 35:33

I wanna hear more about you, Troy, about these Asheville, experiences. I need you to I would like to encourage you to have more of that.

Troy Washington: 35:43

And so and and again, so I I will talk about that for a second. Now before, I I know about astral projection and, you know, traveling planes and all of this all of this, but even getting still because of my own mental reservations. Right? And I know that's what it is. The times I I I'm gonna pull up something so that way I can, kind of, show y'all exactly what it was.

Troy Washington: 36:07

So just imagine this is me. This is me, right? And I'm sitting down whenever I do it I only go this far. Wow. And I can literally see myself.

Troy Washington: 36:19

Now, the the craziest part about it is that I can recognize it. Like I literally can say, what am I doing? Why do I feel like I'm not connected to my body? And all the while trying to figure out how to get back to my body, but afraid to go anywhere else.

JClay: 36:35

Yeah.

Troy Washington: 36:35

And I normally, the times when I'm there is when I'm in a deep state of thinking, which, again, it makes sense. But there is normally some type of, adversary or opposition that's in front of me. And it doesn't necessarily have to be a person. It could just be a thought of a hurdle that I have to overcome. And just as an example, if we were sitting if I was sitting here at the house by myself thinking about, okay, we're about to go on perfect mode.

Troy Washington: 37:02

I could sit back and I could think about it, but then what'll happen is I'll start thinking about all the shortcomings. And then I'll say, you know what? I don't know how to come over this. And then some kind of trigger happens, and I just remove myself. And I would literally look at myself and, like, what are you gonna do now?

Troy Washington: 37:20

And, well, again, I wish I could control it. I've never been able to, but it happens to me on a con I don't wanna say often, but on a frequent basis based on what I got going on in my life. Go ahead, Jay. You look like you got something

JClay: 37:31

to say. No. I got real quick. I do wanna interject. I think it's cool that you picked up, like, it looks like a remote controller and just to to symbolize yourself.

JClay: 37:38

So it's it's I feel like that's one of those spiritual visions you might not even realize, but you are in control. Like, I just thought

Troy Washington: 37:46

yeah. No. No.

Loretta Sharingroup: 37:47

That was a that was a awesome connection. Go ahead. Go ahead.

Troy Washington: 37:51

No. No. I love it. But, again, it's just one of those things where you you can minimize the power. If we have not been having this conversation, I could recall all the times that that's happened to me, but not give it the true power that it truly is.

Troy Washington: 38:12

Right? Oh, it's just me looking at myself trying to figure out what I gotta go going on, and that's when we talk about validating spiritual visions, being able to understand what's really going on with you. And I, in my own mind, have thought this is something that everybody does. I always feel like everybody's sitting outside themselves. I've even heard people say, man, I just got outside of myself for a moment.

Troy Washington: 38:33

I don't know why I thought that, which is again, you minimize things because you feel like it's normal or it doesn't mean anything. And so, you know, I I just, you know, I encourage everybody to recognize it because I also think that it could be happening, you not see it. And all the reasons because I remember the times where it happened, and it wasn't until afterwards that I recognized. Go ahead, Loretta.

Loretta Sharingroup: 38:59

I just wanted to say that's awesome. Not everybody does that. And to start to practice reshaping how you experience it. Right? We are attuned to fear subconsciously, whether we realize this or not.

Loretta Sharingroup: 39:20

I've had experiences where like I was laying in the bed half sleep and I could and I told Jay about this. I've feel an energy flying around me and, but I was stuck, I couldn't talk, I couldn't move. And so I was like, you know what, I could think. And so here I go, here I start, I'm God too, I'm God too, I don't know who you are, but I'm God too, I'm telling that in my mind, because I know it could, whatever it was, it could hear my thoughts and it just, you know, floated left, right, and it and left. But when I was able to come up and move in that, and I I thought about it and I'm like, you know what?

Loretta Sharingroup: 40:03

That could have been one of my angels. But we are so attuned to fear about anything that is different or out of the ordinary. But you have that ability, Troy, for a reason, it's a blessing. It's what I would call if you if I was if you were on my show, I would be saying, oh, that's juicy. This is juicy.

Loretta Sharingroup: 40:25

I love it. I love it. Different experiences. And I just wanted to say there is nothing wrong with religion. Religion has a function, right?

Loretta Sharingroup: 40:35

It works for some of us as long as it's not about fear, right? But opening ourselves up to different spiritual experiences in the church and out of the church during meditation, during dream time, just allowing, being in a space of allowing our different experiences to come through, right, not judging it, not and not being afraid, being open to seeing extraterrestrials. That's my next thing. I wanna see. I wanna see.

Loretta Sharingroup: 41:07

You know? I have not, but I will. Okay? But just being open, being in the space of nonjudgment. But I think that's beautiful.

Loretta Sharingroup: 41:18

I love that. Could, like, practice that. Practice it.

Troy Washington: 41:22

So I I wanna I'm a say I'm a say 2 things about what you just said, and I'm I'm going to I want to bring people into because I I don't know why I feel like everybody has done this. Like, you've never been sitting in your body. I want y'all I I can explain this to y'all so that way y'all can maybe see. And the room didn't feel like it was getting smaller to you because you were coming out. Like, you've never felt that before.

Troy Washington: 41:45

Okay. Troy,

Loretta Sharingroup: 41:47

you you got Jay and I shaking our head no. I'm telling you, it is a a beautiful experience that that is common, but not everyone has it and and reshape, it's not normalized. You talking about it is opening people up to it right now. And it is an amazing experience. It's something to return to because there's something there for you.

JClay: 42:11

Yeah. And and that's what

Troy Washington: 42:12

I'm telling you. I I I literally I'll I I won't say that I live there, but I'm there frequently because it's just depending on what I'm pondering. And that's the reason why I'm saying it's it's funny that y'all have never been sitting back and and y'all felt like the room was just literally getting smaller. Y'all never felt that before?

JClay: 42:26

No. That that that's what she said. Like, that for you, you need to explore that. Like, you you can probably go much further. Like, I I've never experienced something like that.

JClay: 42:34

I've I've I've had spiritual things happen to me that others have not. But in in the same instance, like, that's for me. And and that's and I think that's the thing that we we need to get out of. Like, oh, you're crazy if this doesn't happen to you or you're crazy if this does happen to you. Like, it is we it is okay to to have different experiences.

Troy Washington: 42:52

The crazy part is I'm crazy because I'm thinking that it happens to everybody. So I minimized what was to be done there. That's number 1. But the other part I wanted to touch on was sleep paralysis. And, again, this goes to show me, like, this is one of the things that let me know how strong our mind is, number 1.

Troy Washington: 43:11

Right? Because I went I used to when I was in college, what you're talking and I'm only gonna say sleep paralysis because I know people see it as different things. Right? But, when I was in college, that happened to me all the time. I think, Jay, we talked about this in the mastermind before.

Troy Washington: 43:28

Right? When I say all the time, all the time. So I went down a wormhole in a sense to figure this out, like, and there was two sides to the story. It's it's funny enough. You know what I mean?

Troy Washington: 43:41

We had the people who well well, not number 1, everybody was paralyzed. Nobody could move, but everybody could see. And the the the beautiful part to for me about this and how it ties into the conversation is no matter what you believe in it, the vision part of it stands true. You know, because some people feel like when they're in sleep paralysis, they've been up for so long that and and their body fell asleep, and they didn't recognize that their body fell asleep. Just for for anybody that doesn't know.

Troy Washington: 44:15

So you you're up for so long, you fall asleep, and then the state that you fell asleep in, you can still see everything around you as if it's still I mean, as if you as if you're woke. Some people feel like you are actually woke, and then you really have sleep paralysis, and then you see the spirit, that is around you. But, nonetheless, either way it goes, whether you're asleep for real or you're not sleep for real, the vision is still there. Because if you're asleep, if you can close your eyes right now and everything in front of you will disappear. I promise you.

Troy Washington: 44:51

It will. Unless you have superb vision or you're able to recognize superb vision. So the simple fact that what no matter what happened to me, that I can see my entire room as it was when I was woke or asleep, this shows us shows me how amazing it is. And I'm telling you, I do this I do this practice all the time. I have a ceiling fan in my room right now, and I lay back, and I literally I will look at the ceiling fan for, let's say, for 2 minutes straight.

Troy Washington: 45:22

And then I would close my eyes, and I try to trace the ceiling fan in my mind. And I'm never ever able to do it perfectly. I always forget in the middle of what I'm doing. But the days when I had sleep paralysis, I had my room down to a t. But go ahead.

Troy Washington: 45:38

I just wanted to throw that out there for you. Wow.

JClay: 45:41

But but

JClay: 45:41

22 things. First, I I wanna read with, Charlie said said, I'm living in Ireland and someone here who I know used to astral project to Belgium every day to check on her mother who had dementia. Right? That's Wow. And one thing I I wanna reiterate too, because I know I I know a number of people who've had sleep paralysis.

JClay: 46:00

I've only had it one time. But to to those that might have it, like, there might, they could be like a a fearful mindset to it, like a a thing, like, oh, I can't move in this. I've heard a number of things that can maybe even minimize that. Like, it could be an angel. It could be a spirit guide urging you to astral project, like, come out your body.

JClay: 46:22

This is the perfect time. Like, you can come out now. It's safe. So you can't move this, but your spirit can move. Like, it's any number of things.

JClay: 46:29

It could be energy being released from you finally that you've held on to for so long, and you you get to see it in form that one last time. Like, it it's so many things. And and like Loretta said, we don't have to keep jumping to something scary. Like, this is scary. This is happening to me.

JClay: 46:46

Like, this this is every experience really is for you. Mhmm.

Troy Washington: 46:50

Funny. I I I'm glad that you touched on the security part because all the times where I had sleep paralysis again, I'm just saying that just for the sake of of having a place to talk about it. The very first time I was scared. The very first time I was scared. The second time, I was scared halfway through.

Troy Washington: 47:12

And then I allowed myself to not be scared the second time. And then every single time after that, I was free. But funny enough and I don't know, Loretta, if you had had this experience because you talked about I think you did say you couldn't talk either. Right? The question I want

Loretta Sharingroup: 47:26

I couldn't move. I could I felt I could just feel.

Troy Washington: 47:31

So this will be my question for you because I didn't talk either. Did you try to talk?

JClay: 47:33

And when you tried

Troy Washington: 47:33

to talk, what happened?

Loretta Sharingroup: 47:39

I tried to talk, I could not talk. So I was like, I can think.

JClay: 47:45

Uh-huh.

Loretta Sharingroup: 47:46

You know, I can think. And I just I was just speaking to it, whatever the energy was. And it didn't necessarily feel, like a dark energy. But again, the first response, right, is fear. Yeah.

Loretta Sharingroup: 48:04

And I just was like, I am God. I just was like, you know what? Let me sit in my power in this moment. This is scary. I can't talk.

Loretta Sharingroup: 48:14

I don't know what this is. I feel it. I could clearly feel it. But I can't communicate with this being it. So it did whatever it could do.

Loretta Sharingroup: 48:31

It could have been giving me downloads. I mean, who knows, you know? Straight up. And then

JClay: 48:35

it not

Loretta Sharingroup: 48:38

until it left though. That's the power of that we can allow fear to have on us. Not until it left did I allow myself to start having right thinking, right? To get out of fear and say, you know what, that could have been, you know, one of my angels. I just wanted to say because I know that our time is this has been so amazing, y'all.

Loretta Sharingroup: 49:03

Y'all gotta y'all gonna have me on again. I wanna For show.

Troy Washington: 49:06

For show.

Loretta Sharingroup: 49:06

Okay. So I wanted to say, I know you gentlemen work out a lot And, I just wanted to invite everyone who's listening to this. We know that our children have this vision and we do too, Right? We all are born with intuition. And so just like when you work out, you're building those muscles The same as intuition like Troy, continue to to play with that.

Loretta Sharingroup: 49:37

Play with your multidimensionality. See how far you can go know that you are protected right and Jay you have these dynamic dreams and meditations meditations. Right? Incredible meditations. Continue to practice that, in building this intuition.

Loretta Sharingroup: 49:58

I used to feel like psychics had something that no one else had. That's not true. We are all one. We are all spiritual beings and we all have these abilities and just just be continuing to build on that intuition, and it'll grow and grow and grow just like everything else.

JClay: 50:19

So check check this out. Oh, oh, yeah. Well, Charlie said I'm loving this conversation. Well done, you 3. Appreciate it.

JClay: 50:26

I wanna share a story real quick of something spiritual that happened to me, but it it it kinda goes along the lines of what you just said, Loretta, like, how we are all 1. And to understand this, like, I used to be very fear based as a kid. Like, my mom would say get something out the refrigerator in the basement. I'd be scared. I'd be crying.

JClay: 50:43

I wanna go down there because, you know, I've been fed stories of ghosts and just all these, like, crazy things, demons, anything. Like, all of that stuff scare me.

JClay: 50:52

And

JClay: 50:52

then, you know, like, when I did study the Bible, you have a character like Jesus, who was, like, casting demons out and all that stuff. And I always wonder, like, how do you do that? So anyway, I was in Harrisburg for a show and the house that I was staying at, they like, like, they can see spirits like straight up and the room that I was in the, the woman, she did, she did tell me till later, but she was like, the reason I put you in this room was because I knew you would be cool with it. But she said, I can't stay in that room because whenever I do Spears just come in and out. Just all just always messing with me.

JClay: 51:27

And I'm thinking later, like, why would she do this? We but I but I didn't know any of this at that time. And so I had told her something interesting that happened one morning when I woke up, it was like, I felt something. I felt a presence there that it was like, it was trying to get my attention, Like, almost like it was trying to scare me, but I wasn't on it. I was I'm I'm all love.

JClay: 51:46

Everything is love. Everything is from God. So what I did was I I opened my heart and let it in. Now now somebody might be thinking, like, you like, you got a spirit in you?

Loretta Sharingroup: 51:56

How crazy are you?

JClay: 51:57

What what is that? I really did. And after that, I felt like it, like, it neutralized. Like, it was able to to go forth and live or go to the light, do whatever it needed to do. So then afterwards, I talked to the lady about this.

JClay: 52:09

I was talking to them both and she said that around like 3 AM, she just can never sleep. She said there's a demon between the 2nd and third floor. I was on the 2nd floor. She's she's on the 3rd floor. She says a demon, that that goes there and and she hates it because she has to pass through every time.

JClay: 52:26

And she said, like, when I was there on the trip, she says the most peaceful she ever slept ever, everything. And I and I say this to say, and I even told her this too. Like, we all have that. If we can remember, we come from love, we come from God. Like, there's nothing to be afraid of.

JClay: 52:41

That so called demon is is us. Like, it's us that was scared. It was us that was frightening and internalized that and embodied that. And when we remember, like, all of this stuff, you can cast out demons in a in a in a way, but you're not even casting out demon. You're just shining a light on the person and the energy so that it can be light.

Troy Washington: 53:01

Jay Jay Clay did the number one rule that you cannot do in a scary

Loretta Sharingroup: 53:08

Do you under the bus, Jay. But Jay Hi. You know what? I love that because that's the power of love. Right?

Troy Washington: 53:16

Yeah. We are talking about

Loretta Sharingroup: 53:17

Usually, when we have negative beings around us, we're scared and it's like go away, but it love. Right? You get neutralized the energy.

Troy Washington: 53:27

Yo. No. I I, you know, I'm, you know, I'm joking though, but still though, like, have you ever seen that movie, Let Me In? It's a new movie that came out and it's literally, they they they shaking hands with a, with a a totem that's a hand And they tell the spirit that's or whatever's around, let me in. I mean, you can enter or something something like that.

Troy Washington: 53:48

Spirit was saying, you can have my body. And they let them in, and then they either do something good or they do something that they ain't supposed to do. But shout out to my boy, Jay. You know, this is definitely not to, to scare anybody, but the reason why I want to bring up the movie is because we're talking about how in our subconscious mind, we are beat down based off of things that people, you know, feed us through life. We're indoctrinated into a certain lifestyle.

Troy Washington: 54:15

And then, you know, when I talk about on on my surface, Troy is not afraid of anything. I'm not afraid of any I got if you ask me, I'm not afraid of anything. But why whenever I am astral projecting, which y'all telling me that I was what I'm doing now. Right? Why don't I go further?

Troy Washington: 54:31

And that goes to show you what's embedded deep within. And the only way that you can get beyond that is what was what Loretta said. It's just like every other muscle. You have to practice. Now what that looks like, only you'll be able to tell because all of our stories are different.

Troy Washington: 54:46

How I go further in astral projection would never be the same as anybody else. But I do love the fact of putting he said ghostbuster. Oh, I do love the fact of allowing that to simmer within you that you can practice, that you can get better, that you can work that muscle. And then that way, whenever the opportunity presents itself again, you hopefully trigger that thought for yourself to move beyond. So yeah.

Troy Washington: 55:14

No. I I Loretta, you you talked about, you know, you being grateful and being able to come back. No. We are grateful. And you yes.

Troy Washington: 55:22

You gotta come back. You know, as far as I know, you're also, you're actually a part of the show, more often whenever, you know, I'm not available. He's not available, but even whenever you want to. So, you know, I'm just letting you know from Troy, like, you're always welcome here. Thank you.

Troy Washington: 55:37

And I'll say this to everybody that's oh, go ahead, Jay.

JClay: 55:39

Wait. Wait. I I want to say too just real quick because I I wanna readdress the like, even with Maurice said, shout out to Maurice. He said, I'm glad it didn't turn into The Exorcist. That the the reason I brought up about how scary I was as a kid, I would never in my life, like, have done something like that.

JClay: 55:53

I thought that I would do something like that. And it just goes to show that, again, we everything responds to our energy. So if if I would have been fear based, I probably would have been in I probably would have ran out that house. I probably would have never stayed there again. Like, I haven't experienced that choice house where I almost ran out the house before I got into all this spiritual stuff.

JClay: 56:12

So that that's another story. But but I just wanted to show that, like, if you if you lead with love, if you believe if you believe in your own power, there's nothing that can affect you and you can affect everything.

Troy Washington: 56:25

Yeah. Yeah, man. Yeah. So, I'm I'm just gonna I know we at that point, so I'm just gonna tell everybody, you know, know

JClay: 56:33

that you are perfect. Know that you are perfect. Yes.

Troy Washington: 56:38

And in light of the show, everything that you experience is yours. It's it's really yours to be able to explore and, you know, figure out all the cracks and crevices of it because it's something else that you can bring to the world. As they said, something that I've experienced nobody other people may have experienced, but they hadn't. And by me expressing it, maybe it's something that they can recognize or maybe it's something that they can use to help elevate whatever they're doing. But, nonetheless, your perfection, your fruit to sow, your being fruitful and multiplying is you doing you to the fullest, experiencing everything fearless and full of love, and remembering that you are perfect.

Troy Washington: 57:18

And, I encourage everybody to, you know, tune in to us every week. You know, without y'all, we wouldn't be here. We definitely be doing something, but we wouldn't be here. But we are grateful. And, Loretta, I am grateful.

Troy Washington: 57:28

And, Jay, you know, you do what you do, baby.

JClay: 57:31

For that, Loretta, you got any any last words, something you wanna

Loretta Sharingroup: 57:33

I just I wanna say I love this. I love the space that you all provide. I mean, let me just say that real quick. I love it. As young men of color in this spiritual space, It is incredibly, empowering to see.

Loretta Sharingroup: 57:54

And so thank you. I'm so grateful. Yes. I would love to return. Return.

Loretta Sharingroup: 57:58

Yeah. We have so many topics to explore. So yeah. And thank you everyone who tuned in. Thank you so much to Charlie, and I'll kick it over to you, Jay.

JClay: 58:09

Yeah. Appreciate y'all. Shout out to Robert Clay, my dad. We are all God having a human experience.

JClay: 58:15

Love it.

JClay: 58:16

And appreciate everybody that joined us today. If you liked it, loved it, that share button, share it to somebody that can use this information, that can that can validate their spiritual vision. And just remember, you're a perfect creation made by a perfect creator. So you might as well accept your perfection and enter perfect mode. Yeah.

JClay: 58:37

If I reminded you that you are perfect, would you argue me down or step into your perfection? Welcome to perfect. Welcome to perfect. Welcome to perfect. Where there are no excuses, no expectations, and we explore the world without limitations.

JClay: 58:54

I'm Jay Clay, rapper, the spiritual teacher, with my co host Troy Washington, your friendly neighborhood realtor. Let's be real. So let's be perfect.

JClay: 59:35

Perfect.

JClay: 59:44

Perfect. Perfect.