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Speaker 1 0:00
Good morning, and welcome to Campus Shift, the podcast where we talk with students who work on campus jobs and explore how those positions shape their college experience. And so we have our guest here. Mind introducing yourself?
Speaker 2 0:15
Yeah, so hello, my name is Nathan, and I'm a.. I'm entering year five for my music degree.
Speaker 1 0:22
Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 0:23
I started in mechanical.. well, I did mechanical engineering for three semesters. After two semesters of music performance, I did return, so I will be here for a little bit, but I am entering year five. So I am a musician and a racer. I do sim racing, and I also do go karting, but that's just the start of it. So,
Speaker 1 0:47
okay, all right. And you work on campus, correct?
Speaker 2 0:50
I do.
Speaker 1 0:50
All right. What do you.. what is your job title?
Speaker 2 0:54
Technically, it's Event Operations Services. It's, you know, we just set up events for things that happen in the student union, that like clubs, events. There's a few third-party organizations that come by, but a lot of it's on-campus things, and yeah, we just help set up their events so they can do what they need
Speaker 1 1:19
to do. Okay. And how long have you worked there?
Speaker 2 1:21
I've worked there three and a half years now, since January 2023
Speaker 1 1:26
Okay, okay, that's that's impressive. Okay, well, as far as your, your academics, I guess, in relation to yourself, you know, I know you said you did sim racing, I don't know if the school does anything with sim racing, but you know what. What else do you do, I guess, in relation to what you do here on at on campus?
Speaker 2 1:55
Yeah, so this job, it's a bit different than the things that I do for music or, or racing. It's kind of a bit unrelated, but it has taught me to do certain things within those fields, especially taking initiative on setting up things, because you really can't wait to set up certain stuff, and you're low key on a time crunch, so with learning music, and you know, getting your things together for racing, it, you can't take too much time to end up doing stuff that you need to do, because you will be behind, and that's one of the biggest things I learned from being at this job, and it's all kind of connected one together.
Speaker 1 2:53
Okay, and, and how did you first learn about the job? I'm assuming you didn't just apply and became a manager right at the start, so how did you first like learn about the job?
Speaker 2 3:05
Well, back when I was a first year here, I was in marching band through scholarship, and I had a friend at the time, and he found this job because he was searching for on-campus things, and he referred me in late December of 22 so a month before I was interviewed and accepted, and the leniency of the scheduling worked really well, because music is at this school is very dynamic with how your schedule is, so you can't really dwindle yourself to one particular time frame to end up working, so if I were to go be like a waitress, a waiter, or I work as a barista or something, they might require more scheduling of me, so it's kind of harder to find the scheduling you need for that, but with this job I was able to move my shifts throughout a particular day if I needed to, because of my scheduling with Musik was very compact and I would have to have very inconsistent work shifts, and that's why I accepted the job when I was told about it. So, when I started in January 23 you know, I was referred here, so a lot of it was kind of just jumping into the deep end of it all, I didn't really think too hard about what exactly was required of me, but it wasn't particularly difficult.
Speaker 1 4:52
Okay,
Speaker 2 4:52
in learning,
Speaker 1 4:54
gotcha. And when you, when you got the job, was it your first job that you've. Have ever had, or was it like your first on campus, or what? What was that like for you?
Speaker 2 5:07
So, in high school, part of the reason I didn't work most of high school is because of my interest in the music department. You know, I joined marching band my sophomore year of high school, and as we all know, extracurricular activities do take a lot of your time, and marching band was considered an extracurricular due to the time commitment. Now it only was in the fall time, so your second half of the year wouldn't consist of it, but because of my commitment to it, and when I started dipping my feet into sim racing as well, I wanted to be able to have that available time, not only for those things, but to focus on homework and whatnot, so once I graduated, my sister hooked me up with a job at a place called Cineholic,
Speaker 1 6:04
it's
Speaker 2 6:05
pretty much organic Cinnabon, and I worked inconsistently there, but throughout that summer before I was starting college here at UNLV, I would pretty much just give orders. It's kind of like working fast food in a way, kind of make things on time and everything, and you can't take your time there, especially when you're understaffed. But due to the just understaffing, the availability of people would lead you to have a lot of weight on your shoulders, and once I joined college, I did quit that job to come here, so this is technically my second job ever, but my first, that was on campus.
Speaker 1 6:55
Okay,
Speaker 2 6:55
and because of how well it has worked out for me in terms of scheduling, I had no issue committing
Speaker 1 7:05
to it
Speaker 2 7:05
long term.
Speaker 1 7:06
What, what expectations did you have before you started this on-campus job? I know you worked at Cineholic, and I know you know you obviously had expectations of that kind of job already before coming in, so were any of your expectations when you came into this on-campus job was any of them like radically different than what you actually ended up getting at the job?
Speaker 2 7:32
I don't believe so, to be honest. I just, when they tell you what a job is, it's pretty self-explanatory. It's really straightforward. You set up tables and chairs, you got stages and all that, which I guess a couple of the equipment items were kind of out of left field, I guess, because when you're told it's tables, chairs, maybe a couple of random miscellaneous items, like we got these easels and easel pads, we got stanchions that we work with sign stands, and then, of course, the risers and the ramp, and all of those things were a little bit out of left field. We used to do RSVP setups, so pretty much it's just rental equipment that comes from out of the university for particular events, mainly the big ones like homecoming and all that. And my first shift, you know, I go outside, it's nighttime,
Speaker 1 8:38
I'm
Speaker 2 8:38
setting up these really tall, they were like they had to have been like almost eight feet tables, they were wooden, and yeah, it was just kind of random. I'm like, wow, we're setting up outside. Okay, my first shift, it's, it's, it's okay, though. It was seven to midnight, and like, it's the thing about this job is that it's very interesting. I don't know many on-campus jobs that can go that late with setting up for the next day, but I don't think anything caught me too off guard to the point where I was like telling the guy who referred me, like, bro, what did you just get me into? Okay,
Speaker 1 9:25
okay, all right. So then now that you've, you've worked there for for such a long time, what, what does a typical shift look like for you? Let's talk more about the job as a whole.
Speaker 2 9:40
Yeah, so you kind of get in. We have a break room, so fortunately we can just kind of go in there, drop our stuff off, and depending on what we have, maybe your shift is really busy, you have a lot to do, and you have your. Manager, which we call it
Speaker 1 10:02
the CISM. Okay,
Speaker 2 10:03
client services manager. Yeah, so they'll, they'll look on the paperwork that they're given. We used to use an iPad, but now we have a whole website for it. But we, we look at what we have to set up within a given time, and yeah, we may, we may start right away. We may wait some time for some other rooms to clear out, and yeah, if you're got some downtime, a lot of, a lot of availability to do like homework, that's one of the biggest things about this job, is that when you do get that type of downtime, it really allows you to look at some of your schoolwork that you need to do, but if you don't get the downtime, you kind of start, and you just, you go with whatever the system wants us to do, and you know when you finish, you could probably relax until then, but obviously we get some curve balls when there are clients in the building, and they, they ask of something, and one of us will have to kind of help them out, but that's that's pretty much what it looks like.
Speaker 1 11:18
How often do clients ask for things, and how is it like a big bother if they do, or if they don't?
Speaker 2 11:27
Occasionally they'll ask a little too much, not like, not like too much, but they'll ask multiple times about little things at a time, so at least for our team, we, I mean, we're the physical equipment type of people, you know, not the audio, usually our audio group gets contacted a lot more than us, but if the building is full of different clubs and all that, it is common to get requests for things quite a bit, but usually if we're ending up doing something, it only affects us if we're like outside, and then we'll have to split someone out to help that group out.
Speaker 1 12:18
I see, but
Speaker 2 12:19
it's not too detrimental at times,
Speaker 1 12:21
right? You said earlier you were, you were a manager, or like event ops manager, so there are there would be times you would be like a system, correct? Right. Yes. What responsibilities do you handle most as a system?
Speaker 2 12:36
So the system kind of controls the pace of the shift as a manager, you are kind of expected to know a bit more than that of the people who aren't, and a lot of what gets done in that shift reflects on the manager, because at the end of the day, the manager is the one who controls what we do when we do it. Okay, now that doesn't, that doesn't stop the other members from taking initiative, but the responsibility of the manager is to check what you have and to leave a good amount for the next shift, so sometimes we won't have too much to do, and we'll look ahead, and we'll be like, okay, well, if we do all this and work our tail off, the next shift won't have anything, so to kind of split the workload, you might do half the rooms, and the next shift can take the other half, but in cases where we got a really big list of things to do, we'll do a lot of what we can, and you know, we won't like exhaust ourselves, because at the end of the day, we are still students, and especially for those of us who worked the night crew, which is typically seven to 12. Some of us have class the next day, a lot of
Speaker 1 14:07
us do
Speaker 2 14:08
right. So, how much are we willing to work within our reins for the betterment of the crew in the morning? Now, sometimes we don't get a choice. Some rooms, they start really early,
Speaker 1 14:24
like as soon as the building, as soon as
Speaker 2 14:26
the building opens, and you obviously can't leave that for morning crews. The rooms got to be ready. So, a lot of times the night crew, we work a bit hard at times because we don't really have a choice, you know, it's just kind of how things are scheduled and whatnot, and we don't control that, we just kind of work with what we're given with, and yeah, it's just as the manager it is kind of up to you to. To take initiative on those things, but also be able to communicate properly with the team that you're working with, and a lot of what I think would make a good manager is to get everyone on the same page, and because you know this job, as most things people, people will definitely voice the displeasure with what we have
Speaker 1 15:23
to do. Okay,
Speaker 2 15:24
and your job is to kind of keep everyone on the same page, because you know if everyone's not in a good mood, I'm going to tell you this: it's not going to get done, at least not without issue. It's going to take a lot longer when you complain, because you're gonna have people, maybe they'll take a moment, they'll sit down,
Speaker 1 15:46
they'll drag their feet, yeah,
Speaker 2 15:47
they'll drag their feet, they'll, they'll just have, they'll start like lazily walking over to grab equipment or move
Speaker 1 15:55
it,
Speaker 2 15:56
and it does reflect on the other members, because at the end of the day you only get maybe five people at most, four people, that's not a lot, sometimes you know when you have big setups to do, like we have a ballroom and that thing can hold a lot of equipment, especially with the stages we work with pipe and drape, so a few of us are scissors certified, so we do have that piece of equipment in there, and we use it to apply the pipe and drape, so that they get a little nice background, but it can be a bit inconvenient, because those drapes are really tall, I don't know how big they are, but they're like probably 20 feet,
Speaker 1 16:42
define pipe and drape real quick. Okay, well, pipe and drape
Speaker 2 16:48
you use these pipes, they're literally just poles, essentially. And we'll have bases, and you have uprights, so you put the uprights through a connector onto the bases and what they'll do is it's level to a certain height so that you can apply these pipes on top of these upright bases and we have these really long drapes which are sent they're just essentially pieces of fabric but a lot of what we have, we have black fabric, but we also have white, but we don't have very many, we only have eight, so it was just apply these drapes, and they have an opening where you could put it onto the pipe, so that it kind of hangs down from the pipe, when it's elevated like that on top of the upright, and that could take a lot of time, because those drapes are not small, you know, it's kind of like doing laundry, except your laundry is super sized. Oh, I
Speaker 1 17:56
see. Okay, and by upright, I'm assuming that's just like another poll, yeah, it's just another poll. Okay, yeah, gotcha. It's just a poll that
Speaker 2 18:05
stands up,
Speaker 1 18:06
okay? Because I'm hearing all these, all these terms, I'm like, I don't, I don't know what, right? Right, yeah, okay, gotcha. So you told me a lot about the job so far. What is your favorite part about working there,
Speaker 2 18:22
I would say my favorite part about working there is the community,
Speaker 1 18:27
the people,
Speaker 2 18:29
yes, obviously the scheduling is great because of how lenient you're able to be with the scheduling on that job, especially when you have things come up, because as we all know, some of us are in extracurriculars. I'm still in marching band, so to me that is something that takes a lot of time, and the schedule is dynamic, especially when I'm required to be at these football games, and a lot of times I'll have to call off a shift if I typically work on a on a day that football games typically land on. Well, at least for the home games I have to call out for that, and as a student we only get limited to 20 hours,
Speaker 1 19:22
okay.
Speaker 2 19:23
So it does make it a bit easier to find our shift times, because we're limited to 20, but the community, once you really get to know people, it could create opportunities that you may not have had if you weren't in this position. I've met people that are in so many other different majors at this job, just because I worked here. You got hospitality majors, you have journalism. You have engineering, physics, you have all these, oh yeah, nursing too. Don't forget that one. You have all of these different majors, and these people all excel in different things, and it really opens your eyes on how crazy and diverse, this any university, really, but this one, as an example, can
Speaker 1 20:29
be
Speaker 2 20:30
because, as a music major, a lot of your time is spent in the music buildings, you're on one side of the campus all the time, you have multiple classes where that's kind of all you do, you play, you learn more about music, and if you're a music educator, well, you learn how to teach the music, whereas my thing is music performance, so I focus more on the actual aspect of performing and entertaining an audience, whereas these other majors, it can really open your eyes on things, because in my opinion, you could focus on one major, but there are skills that you'll need to learn that are outside of that major that can really help you, and just having that community is super helpful, because it, I mean, I always like meeting new people and being social, because you know you don't want to limit yourself, or so, per se, and I think that's the best part. It's just the community,
Speaker 1 21:49
so has has working on campus, or just at this job specifically, has it made managing school, whether it be financial or academically, has it been? Has it made it easier or more difficult?
Speaker 2 22:06
I would say it's made it easier.
Speaker 1 22:08
Okay,
Speaker 2 22:09
so like I said, you do get downtime here, so it does allow you to work on the homework while also just being ready when the system, or if you're the system, you know when you guys decide to start doing stuff, but you're allowed to do that homework when you have some downtime, and for some people that's it's amazing, because they, if they weren't working this particular job, and they were working somewhere else, you may not get that you work at fast food or you work in a restaurant, you don't get that downtime to open your computer and start typing an essay, you don't get to do a quiz that you need to do, especially for those who do online classes, which is super helpful for someone like me, who my music stuff is required to be in person, because, well, you can't perform an ensemble online. Well, you can, but you need like a recording thing, and that's a whole spiel. But I would say that this job has made it easier, because it's also taught me to be good in time management, especially with learning music. When we learn music, these 15 minute pieces, 10 minute pieces, takes a lot of time to learn those because sometimes it's really technical, and every semester I have to play a longer piece that's up to 10 minutes for a grade, and I have to manage when to learn particular parts of it, so time management has definitely been one of the benefits.
Speaker 1 24:06
Okay, you've, you stated already, you know, you're in the marching band, and you've gone around and played, and you're playing your ensembles, and everything has. Do you feel more involved in on just like on-campus activities, not necessarily because for some of them you literally have to play for them, but also for some activities, because at the student union you're also setting these activities up. Do you feel more involved, and I guess in touch with the university as a whole, because of both your job and marching band,
Speaker 2 24:45
I would say yes and no. Obviously, if you're involved in clubs and everything, I just.. I'll just name one. It's called Rebel Racing, Rebel Racing, and they have a shop that's. Located in the engineering building, and when I first was here, I was really motivated to be in that group, but because of my time availability, I wasn't able to really commit as much as I wanted to, but there are, I mean, that's just one club that interests me, but there are so many clubs around campus that for some people, it'd be great, because, especially when you're setting up events, maybe you could stop by, and you know, you'll run into familiar faces, and just, again, that community learning, that community. For me, personally, though, I think the yes part would be that I've run into people that are in band at my job. I've run into people that I work with outside when I was doing music, and just you see familiar faces. You might learn more about what's happening, because when you set up for big events like late night breakfast, homecoming, all this, you become familiar with those things, and maybe if you have time, you might say, "Hey, let's, let's go do this, because campus is doing this, maybe they'll do like a movie showing, "Let's go do this, and it's just kind of involves you more with just meeting new people sometimes, because you know your friend might know another guy or another gal, they might know 12 people you didn't know, and they might introduce you, and again it could create opportunities that you may not have had had you limited yourself to one thing.
Speaker 1 26:37
Okay. All right. Do you think you would have had a different college experience if you didn't work on campus.
Speaker 2 26:47
Yes, I would have definitely had a different experience. This job has motivated me in ways to become better because of those time management things, but also the physical aspect of it, you have to physically move and do these things, so I definitely use the motivation, so when I became a manager, I had to take on a leadership role, and because of that, it taught me to be proactive a bit more than I had been before I was a manager, and it actually led me to making the decision to become a drum major. So I'm a drum major in year five, entering year five in August, and that is a leadership position in the marching band where you are conducting a group of 200 members and you and two others are conducting the group as they perform, so that is that isn't it, but it is a leadership role because you are essential to the group, and just as a manager is essential to a team, and because of that, it is not only allowed me to be social in within my band as well, but also just apply the skills that I learned at this job to other aspects of my life, including my academics in music.
Speaker 1 28:25
Okay, okay. Um, has this job influenced any of your career goals at all? I know you said you, it kind of helped you switch to being a drum major, but anything like after, after that, other, other than that, I guess I should say,
Speaker 2 28:47
well, it's definitely opened an opportunity, so if I wanted to do like state hand work after I graduate, and maybe I'm waiting for a musical opportunity, or because I'm also in sim racing, maybe I'm waiting for that, but stage hand work typically is, it does pay a lot, and when you set up for events, you know these events don't happen to the degree that they do without people helping to set it up, if you've ever hosted a party before, you definitely know that you don't set it up correctly. I mean, you might have a mess on your hands, but yeah, when, when you have more structure to what you're doing, it's definitely going to be more on top of things, and a lot easier to manage when it comes to breaking it down or just the event itself or the party itself, so in terms of careers I've used the skills that I learned here in the career choices that I've kind of made for myself, like music and racing, and that those are my like main two avenues. So I really stick heavy with it and use the goals and skills that I've learned here for future endeavors,
Speaker 1 30:08
gotcha. Okay, you seem overall to kind of enjoy the job and the free time that it gives you for both academics, but also your ability to kind of be able to communicate that, oh, you have other campus needs that you need to get to, and they, everyone seems to, you seem to be pretty, pretty much able to like go and handle those other needs, so I guess my question would be, what is one thing, which you can say the leniency, obviously, that your department, or that the student union, your employers, that they do really well.
Speaker 2 30:53
Yeah, I would say what they do really well is making things a bit clear on what the goals are, for sure, because at the end of the day you do have to manage things to a degree, so my job at the Student Union is obviously a public location, so you may deal with people that are not students, and typically the event holder, I mean, you usually have info desk at the bottom floor, the information desk, they will handle certain things like that, but occasionally we, we may have to do it ourselves and kind of manage what's happening out at least on our floor and I would say that they do make it clear to not do certain things like I said I mean it's kind of hard to get fired per se from this job unless you're literally doing really radical stuff, so you stick within your reins, you show up and you do the work. I mean, you got no issue. They make it very clear, and, like I said, they're also very lenient with scheduling, so they're good about finding people to cover a shift, if you cannot make
Speaker 1 32:23
it,
Speaker 2 32:24
you know, I would really suggest a campus job for those who live on campus, right? Because, do you really want to make a commute
Speaker 1 32:35
to a
Speaker 2 32:36
different location? You live right here,
Speaker 1 32:38
and
Speaker 2 32:41
you know, especially because for some people who don't live on campus, like, like myself, you got to drive here, so every time I come into work or school, essentially the same thing, but it's about a 20 minute commute, and you got to account for traffic, got to account for random miscellaneous things that could happen, maybe. Maybe a bus is pulled over, letting people get off, and they put the lights out, and everything. More
Speaker 1 33:09
construction, yeah, you know, the
Speaker 2 33:12
streets are filled with orange cones and everything, and you got to stop, you got to let people in, do all this stuff. But for those who obviously live here during the semester, you know, I think it's a perfect opportunity for them, because it's convenient, you know, you're already dealing with the stress of having to manage living in the dorms and whatnot, and maybe you're not from here, maybe you live out of state, but you're going here for college, and this just really makes it easy for those individuals to be able to earn money for working at a job, but also learning skills at the same time, so they're not limiting themselves because they have to work to live on campus,
Speaker 1 34:00
gotcha, and what is one thing at the job? Because not everything could be perfect, no job is perfect. What is one thing at the job that you think absolutely needs improvement?
Speaker 2 34:16
Yeah, so at my particular job we have our own department of working through things, of course. You know, we kind of work with two other departments, and we have our audio and visual members who work on, like, the technical stuff, so microphones, sound systems, and everything like that. And we also have our concierges, who they sit at a desk in the hallway directing people, and they'll take calls from clients, and we typically open these classrooms for people that are located all across the campus, and they sign through us, so we'll send out one of our people to open.
Speaker 1 34:58
That's an interesting job. For the student union, right?
Speaker 2 35:02
I think it's different classrooms. I low key think it's a way for them to hire less organizations to do that, but okay, yeah. I tell you what, that is kind of a random thing that was not in the job description.
Speaker 1 35:14
Okay,
Speaker 2 35:15
but it's not too inconvenient, but it does kind of throw you for a loop at first, that's random, and
Speaker 1 35:22
you're leaving the student union to open
Speaker 3 35:25
a class that's completely unrelated,
Speaker 1 35:28
complete. Okay,
Speaker 2 35:30
but yeah, so we do that, but the paperwork that we work with is through our third floor department, so our event coordinators are people who make the diagrams for what we work with, or the paperwork. Well, sometimes their mistakes trickle on to
Speaker 1 35:53
us,
Speaker 2 35:54
and if they miscalculate the equipment needed, we'll end up setting up what we think is correct, because at the end of the day, we make the judgment of what we have
Speaker 1 36:09
to do,
Speaker 2 36:10
and sometimes the night shift will set up something, and we'll get in, or certain people will get in the next day, and you have no choice but to maybe change it, because the EC the next morning will come and tell the morning crew, hey, this room is wrong, and the night the morning crew is going to be like, what, what do you mean it's wrong? Did night crew say that? No, there's a mistake on the diagram again, I because I'm gonna tell you this, they ain't only do it once, and it's not just one person, that's the unfortunate thing, is because it used to be worse back then, where there was this big disconnect between third and second floor groups, and third floor used to kind of blame us if something was set up incorrectly, and I'm gonna be like, what are you talking about? What are you talking about? Because we worked with what we had, and you're gonna come and try to tell it was our fault, because we set the room. Yeah, we set the room with what we were given, though, and I think that's the biggest disconnect, because occasionally when those things do end up becoming an issue, maybe the client
Speaker 1 37:34
says something about that, right?
Speaker 2 37:36
Maybe the client will voice self-frustration, and your job is kind of keep your composure, obviously you know, want to keep some type of professionalism within what you're speaking of, especially when you're talking to a client, but you just got to realize that what you're given is what you're given, so that's the biggest issue, though. The miscommunication can trickle into something bigger than it needs to be, and it's unnecessary stress for those who have to correct it.
Speaker 1 38:11
Gotcha. Okay. All right. Well, we're a little far into our time, so I'm gonna try and close this up for a little bit, my last question for now would be, do you think that student employees in your position, or just those that work in the student union as a whole, do you think they receive enough support from the school, whether it be through, I know you just argue with about the third floor, and like the management up there, how they don't really get your job sometimes, and or like it could be about like anything. If you don't think they receive it, it could be pay, it could be the amount of hours you get, it could be situations like like that where you know you're being blamed for the administration's mistakes, but that wasn't on you. It was on the person who made the diagram, and you just followed it, and it happened to be wrong. Yeah. Do you think they, that students, receive enough support in your position?
Speaker 2 39:14
I would say, for the most part, we do. Right, our bosses do a good job of letting us know that we are supported, and especially by their actions that they do, they do make it to where they'll kind of be a voice for us when our voices can't be heard, especially with those third floor people who we work with, with the paperwork and all that, so they definitely reassure us on that front, but I think in general the biggest issue
Speaker 1 39:47
is
Speaker 2 39:47
the pay. So back when I started working here in 23 obviously inflation had been going up for years at this point, but we were getting paid 975 as. A really regular team member, you were getting paid 975 limited to 20 hours. Now, this is a nationwide law,
Speaker 1 40:08
yeah,
Speaker 2 40:09
that a campus job for a student cannot go over 20, but so the hours has never been an issue, but it's the pay, so we did get raised to minimum wage about a year and a half into when I was working, so late 2024 or so, and I would even argue that it's still not enough, especially for the inconsistency of who's more busy and who isn't, you know, night crew gets a lot of things, but that isn't to say that the midday crew doesn't work hard either, and you got different people working different shifts, so it may be different, it's not your typical nine to five where you got the same people working every day, and you're being like, oh, Barbara didn't do this, didn't do that, and so and so didn't do this, Jack didn't do his job correctly. We'll see him tomorrow. Well, you don't know, because people's schedules are dynamic in school, so I wouldn't even consider competitive pay, per se. I would just consider an overall raise for the members. So, because of this 20 hour rule, we have to hire more people. So, at least for our particular position, our fully staffed qualification is 30 members, it's a lot of people, just
Speaker 1 41:45
team and like managers. I would just, yeah,
Speaker 2 41:48
just team and managers. Okay, so in total you'd have 30 members. So the issue is that if you raise 25 cents for a position, well, you're not just doing that for one person, not even 15, do an effort 30, and that's just our group. When they raise our pay, they have to raise everyone else's, so this includes the information desk, it third floor members, CSUN, which is also located in the student union, so in terms of financials, if you raise one position, you have to raise them all, and it's just not in the cards for them to do that, because we aren't making a big profit as, as the SU, they don't make a huge profit because they discount the students who come and host their clubs in these rooms, so unfortunately it isn't cost efficient for what we are doing. You get heavily discounted. How are you going to make money? I get what they're trying to do, and whatnot, but I think they got a little bit of their financials a bit flipped on its head. Okay, we definitely need to have a con, that would be a conversation for the higher ups, for sure, in terms of what they do with their finances, but I think the pay is the biggest thing, because sometimes, man, you will be working your tail just doing stuff, and you might not even get done, especially with outdoor events. I've seen events where people will be outside for all four or five hours of their shift, and the next group will get on and pick up where they left off.
Speaker 1 43:41
Oh, for minimum wage,
Speaker 2 43:42
off a minimum wage.
Speaker 1 43:44
I see,
Speaker 2 43:46
and it's just.. it's tough. And our boss did mention the physical labor jobs in general do get underpaid, and that's kind of a universal thing. That's just the unfortunate part, but I still think that we can do something to give everyone a little more.
Speaker 1 44:07
Okay. All right. Well, thank you. Do you, I don't know if you want to share any of your, your socials or anything like that before, before we end it, but if not, we can, we can just cut it here if you prefer.
Speaker 2 44:25
Yeah, my Instagram is B A R I Nate 02
Speaker 1 44:30
Okay. All right. Well, thank you for joining us. For those who are listening in, if you enjoyed today's conversation, be sure to tune in next time when we hear another student's story from behind the scenes. Thank you all, and thank you for listening.
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