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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. We're seeing a massive flood of illegal immigrants across our southern border. We're hearing rumors of child sex trafficking, drug smuggling, CCP involvement, the globalist involvement, Soros funding. It's just a bad situation.
Seth Holehouse:But where my mind goes to with this is what's the bigger picture? Is it about getting more votes in the country? Is it about destabilization? Well, according to my guest today, Anne Vandersteel, who just got back on a from a huge trip where she was on the border with Michael Jan in the South, going into Central America all across the Mexican border witnessing exactly what's happening down there. And according to her, this is all about laying the foundation for the New World Order and the destruction of America as a independent nation, as a nation state.
Seth Holehouse:And so we're gonna be digging into just what she would have seen on her trips around the border in Central America, what she thinks it really means for America, and what it means for the next twelve months as we enter into the, election next year. So folks, please enjoy this interview with Ann Vandersteel. Anne, it's so great to have you back on the show. Thank you so much for making the time to join us today.
Speaker 2:Seth, it's always a pleasure. You're one of my favorite interviewers. I've told you that before. You do such a thorough job in that one interview we did together on the corporation of The United States, went viral and that really opened the eyes of a lot of people, including the Epic Times. So I thank you for making that information so available to the world to digest and you did it in such a masterful way.
Speaker 2:So thank you.
Seth Holehouse:Oh, thank you.
Speaker 2:Carlson, when asked what his first objective was when he's reelected as president, he said his focus is the border. So, clearly, he's very aware of what's going on. I think mayor Adams, has now deployed himself down to the Darien Gap as of this reporting, is also aware that the migrants that have overrun his city in New York are problematic, not only for the crime, but also really for the financial resources of a city that is not getting the support from its state or the federal government. So the weaponized migration of illegal aliens in this country is problematic on many, many levels. And Operation Burning Itch focused in on just what all those points are, those where they intersect with the national security of this country and the health care of this country.
Speaker 2:So that's what we learned over the last seven, almost eight weeks, and we are continuing Operation Burning Edge, around the world, frankly, because human migration on this scale has never been seen before.
Seth Holehouse:And so what are the areas that you were focused on, you know, over the course of the past, you one to two months? What particular regions and borders were you at?
Speaker 2:Sure. We started in Brownsville, Texas near SpaceX. In fact, our first order of business was to drive directly to Elon Musk's SpaceX campus, which is wide open to the public, shockingly so you can get up within 150 yards of a real live rocket on a pad ready to be blasted off into space with virtually very little security. People just sitting out under tents, deciding whether or not you can cross the white line on the road or not. Quite quite a unique experience for people who are really, space aficionados.
Speaker 2:They really are into the whole blasting off into space with rockets and all that neat stuff. It's really cool. But what's not so great about that is the fact that on that very same campus, which is along the beach of Southern Texas, just south or excuse me, just west of South Padre Island is where the mouth of the Rio Grande actually dumps into the Gulf Of Mexico. And that Rio Grande River, Seth, is probably only about 30 yards, 40 yards at most wide. If that, I think it's more like 20 in some spots.
Speaker 2:You can easily walk across it. It's not deep, at low tide. And you see many Mexicans right across the river. They seem friendly for the most part. I saw children playing many times during the day, and people were throwing out nets to catch bait fish.
Speaker 2:But what we learned at night when we would stay up, going out on operations, with tactical teams and tactical thermal imaging and night vision cameras in the dark of night undercover, so that we ran dark where people really couldn't see that we were there driving along the beach, was with these cameras, we actually captured the images of what looked like people coming across the river, customs and border protection standing on our side of the river, seemingly unconcerned about what was happening right in front of them. We actually followed, a vehicle that intersected people that came across the river. When they turned around and came back, they recognized our vehicle and weren't sure if we were a friend or foe. So we caught on thermal imaging a what seemed to be a package tossed right outside the window of this vehicle who was heading west along the beach into the river excuse me, into the ocean of the Gulf Of Mexico. We did stop and try to recover the package, but it was clearly somebody who didn't want us thinking we were perhaps law enforcement to capture whatever they had in their car.
Speaker 2:So you can only assume it was probably drugs or some other contraband. Really, to see that happen over and over again and to see the amount of illegal migrants coming across the Rio Grande, the signs of human smuggling, weapons trafficking, human trafficking, all of this danger, danger, danger, cartels everywhere on the American side is really, really disconcerting. And it tells a story that Americans just simply aren't being fed in the mainstream media.
Seth Holehouse:And what do you think is at the heart of this? Because it's there's so many different layers to the issues. It's it's this left versus right. And there's people that are pushing for, you know, look, America is a land of the free and immigrants are welcome. And but as you get deeper into it, you start seeing who's funding these operations, you start seeing how it ties into human trafficking, you know, child sex trafficking, drug smuggling, fentanyl coming coming across the border.
Seth Holehouse:It just seems like it goes deeper and deeper. And so in in your experience and through your research, what's driving this? Like, fundamentally, why is our border so open? And why are all of these immigrants, oftentimes, maybe the military age men, you know, ex cons, etcetera, why are they just flooding into our country? What's behind this?
Speaker 2:The ultimate agenda is a new world order, one world government. The unofficial defact what's driving the direction of the dissolution of The United States border. Fact, 01/10/2023, Joe Biden, president Obrador of Mexico, and, prime minister Justin Trudeau of Canada all signed the declaration of North America, which obsessively dissolved the borders between those three countries, recognizing those three countries into one region. And it's the language of diversity and equity inclusion is woven throughout that entire document, it's only a couple of three, four pages. The necessary need for migration and moving people and supposedly protecting the indigenous and the women and children, all the language they like to use, which as we have learned over time, Seth, really does project what they're never going to do.
Speaker 2:Anytime you have an agency or a proclamation or declaration of something that sounds great, expect the exact opposite. And we witnessed that time and time again on the southern border in Texas, as well as our trip down into the Darien Gap into Panama and along the Panama Canal. The United States Government, your tax dollars is funding human migration never seen before on a global scale. It is funding the degradation of women and children. It is funding the murder of women so that these children can be taken and housed in more government funded organizations under the roofs carrying thousands of children.
Speaker 2:Organizations like MVM, which has its roots in the Secret Service and CIA, SLS and Southwest Key Programs, Catholic charities. These are just a few of the NGOs that the United States government funds. Meanwhile, they fund down into the Darien Gap, into the jungle, these migrant encampments. You'll see US flags everywhere. You'll see EU flags everywhere.
Speaker 2:The only reason you would see EU and US flags deep in the jungle is if they are encouraging and are providing funding and support to bring these migrants into The United States with the expressed intent of destroying the republic for which we stand, destabilizing our electorate so that perhaps if they lose the ability to use voting machines by some amazing circumstance, at this point, I don't see it happening. But if they were to be able to actually have a legitimate vote, they've now imported the voting electorate and are paying that same voting electorate every illegal $2,200 just for being an illegal alien in this country and juxtapose that to the American who has worked for forty or fifty years or all their life paying into Social Security on average receiving $1,400. The inequity in all of this, the unfairness in all of this screams at so many levels right down to the American citizen and across to the woman who has been told from Ecuador or Venezuela or Iran that you're gonna get a better life and it's gonna be easier, only to find out they're brought into forced labor, sex trafficking, or simply they don't have the skills for a job, and now they're relegated to finding other people that they can live with in order to afford an apartment and an $8 cup of coffee.
Speaker 2:This is what Joe Biden's America is doing to our country, and these are the lies that are being fed to the people who are being told you can come to America for a better life. Meanwhile, our better life is dissolving before our eyes as infrastructure and inner cities collapse and the funding to house these people just isn't there, which is why Eric Adams is making his presence known in the Darien Gap. I think a lot of it is Kabuki theater, but it's also telling the truth. They're not gonna fund these people because they want the collapse of the inner cities. They want the riots.
Speaker 2:They want these cities burnt down. They obviously can't get enough out of Antifa these days or Black Lives Matter. So now they're gonna use, civil unrest from the very same people that were promised a better way of life. It's really just a tragedy what's unfolding right here in America.
Seth Holehouse:It really is. And it it seems like the people that are behind this studied the playbook of Rome and the fall of Rome quite well because this is this is one of the main reasons why Rome fell is that it was immigration and the the destruction of borders. And one of the key, you know, points in looking at the, you know, the history of Rome, what caused it to fall is that once things got difficult, once you started to have more civil unrest in areas like Rome, as much as those, the people that are coming into Rome tried to adhere to the cultural norms of the Romans during peaceful times, when there was unrest, they became very tribal. And once they became tribal, they resorted to their tribal ways of protecting themselves and attacking others, which if we see right now, there's always videos coming out of really racial beatings. You'll have one race beating another race.
Seth Holehouse:Usually, it's a white person or an Asian person being beaten, But you can see this tribalism emerging. And I'm glad though that you you took it to the point of the one world order. You know, this is a topic that, you know, ten years ago was an Alex Jones tinfoil hat conspiracy, but it's as we can see, it's right at the center. And so from your perspective, this is really about America fitting into the one world one world government, one world order, which is a system where there really aren't nation states. And because America is the most strong nation state, that's why it's attacked.
Seth Holehouse:Right? So do you see that America is one of the final ships, one of the final locations to seize and destroy the borders of before this global order can be implemented?
Speaker 2:It absolutely is. We are the final frontier. We were the final frontier two hundred and fifty years ago when a group of men and women decided to leave globe their tyranny of of the British crown behind and set sail across to America to start over with a better new way of life where they would have freedom of speech, freedom to worship the god and religion of their choosing, to defend themselves, to have the ability to have self defense, your second amendment, to never be forced into housing anybody in their homes that they didn't want. And what we see happening today, of course, has been the first amendment and freedom of speech and religion under attack significantly. COVID shut churches down and exchanged people's need for worship for money.
Speaker 2:And, you know, on for unfortunately, Babylon prevailed because Babylon showed its ugly head and the money changers came out on top. But unfortunately, today, what we're seeing is after we've lost our freedom of speech, censorship is rampant. They've been coming for our guns. And if they can't get our guns and they can't disarm us, they're gonna force us into a bloody battle by mass immigration, mass illegal immigration. And this United States government is solely 1000% responsible for everything that happens in these inner cities.
Speaker 2:As these immigrants show up, they really don't have, housing provisions available to them. Yes. They have $2,200 a month, which I would imagine is probably $2,200 more a month than they had before they got here. But the economy of scale doesn't translate to how to stretch that money. $2,200 a month in Guatemala would go a very long way for a very long time.
Speaker 2:It doesn't here in The United States. Inflation is out of control. The war on America, the war on freedom has been ongoing for a hundred years, and it's coming to a head right now because if America doesn't understand that we can't afford to welcome in people that are portraying themselves as needing a better way of life. Let me tell you about some of the people I saw, Seth, down while I was in Panama, for instance, because what I saw on the southern border were not, people that were desperate for a better way of life. I saw a ton of human trafficking.
Speaker 2:I saw a lot of young young girls with a lot of young young children and a lot of military age men coming in with small children and Catholic charities right in the middle of it. Catholic charities acting as security guards on federal land, calling the police on us as we were trying to document what they were doing in the middle of the night at 02:00 in the morning, escorting these military age men with small young children with them. No women anywhere on-site. Not normal. And what else was tragic about all that documentation was that customs and border protection are being asked and used by the federal government to chaperone these people right into the arms of human traffickers.
Speaker 2:The war is real between the federal government and the people as well as the federal government and the state. We saw many times where federal government employees from customs and border protection were cutting holes in fences only to have, the Texas State National Guard come and repair. It's it's as if this is a dance, a ballet that goes on day in and day out. It's full of hypocrisy, and neither side is happy with what's happening. But yet, Seth, I don't see enough people standing up.
Speaker 2:And I'm starting to hear through the relationships I have in organizations like tacticalcivics.com, where people are learning about citizen grand juries and how grand juries can actually not only indict people that are investigating, but they can also investigate the federal prosecutors that call the grand juries together. Because a lot of the times we're learning these federal prosecutors are partisan witch hunt hacks that are weaponizing the justice system and the grand juries to put away their political opponents. So we have a lot we need to atone for. We need to learn our fundamental constitutional rights, and we need to stand up. I'm glad to hear that there are organizations out there like TacticalCivics.com that are getting people together in chapters all over this country.
Speaker 2:I think we've got about one third of the counties already covered in less than a year. I'm hopeful, but I can tell you right now, we are gonna go through a very, very, very difficult patch in this country because the infiltration, according to lieutenant governor Dan Patrick from Texas, is that at this current time, we have somewhere between 40 to 50,000,000 illegals in this country. And if you don't think that we have a lot of people waiting for a dog whistle to activate in some form or fashion against the Americans and possible multi little nine eleven events or whatever, Why else are they doing emergency broadcast tests in such an organized fashion if they don't know something's coming? And last thought I'll tell you before you pose the next question. I'm aware of the fact that the Federal Emergency Management Association, FEMA, just had erected in the Midwest a ham radio tower that has worldwide reach.
Speaker 2:And this tower was erected in a record time. In fact, the contractor was explained that FEMA wanted this tower built before the end of the month. So that being said, what do they know that's coming? Why are multimillionaires building these, fallout dugout, you know, survival shelters to the tunes of millions of dollars per shelter. Why why are they doing this so quickly and so rapidly?
Speaker 2:What do they know that we don't, Seth?
Seth Holehouse:Hey, folks. I've got a quick message for you. So I'm sure you've heard a lot of people, myself included, talking about the importance of buying precious metals, gold and silver. But what's really behind that? Is it just a thing of, hey, buy this gold, buy this silver.
Seth Holehouse:Right? Or is there something deeper that we should be looking at? So I recently came across some figures about house prices. So in 1930, the average family home was approximately $4,000. Fast forward to 02/2023, the average family home is just over $400,000.
Seth Holehouse:So you have to ask yourself, why is that? Is it because things have just gotten more expensive? No, it's actually because the dollar has lost 99% of its value since 1930. Right? When people talk about the collapse the dollar or inflation, this is what it means.
Seth Holehouse:Now let's take a look at gold. So in 1930, if you wanted to purchase your home in gold, it would take approximately 200 gold coins. So 200 gold coins would purchase the average family home in 1930, about $4,000. Now, if you instead of buying a home with that gold or cash, you set those aside. If you set aside $4,000 in cash in 1930, it would be worth $4,000 today.
Seth Holehouse:What can you buy with $4,000? Can you buy a family home? No, you can't even buy a crappy used car. But if you set aside $4,000 worth of gold coins in 1930, which is 200 gold coins, 1 ounce coins, that would be worth approximately $400,000 today. And this is the key lesson about precious metals.
Seth Holehouse:It's not about getting rich. It's about putting your money into an asset that protects you against inflation and against the destruction of the currency, which is what happens to all fiat currencies, especially now we're in the end days of the dollar. And so that's why it's important, maybe not all of your money, but a portion of your money, a portion of what you have, I highly recommend putting it into precious metals of gold and silver because what it's doing is it's protecting you. This is an asset that has stood the test of time, not just stood the test of time since the 1930s, we're talking about the rise and fall of civilizations. Gold was used to buy houses back in ancient Rome.
Seth Holehouse:It's still around. It's an asset that will forever have its value. So folks, if you want to do this and you need someone you can trust, there's no person I can recommend more than Doctor. Kirk Elliott. He's a very good friend of mine.
Seth Holehouse:He's a strong Christian patriot, and he's out to really help people to protect their savings and what you've worked for against the destruction of the dollar, not to mention also protecting it against the dangers of a central bank digital currencies. So to learn more about this, go to goldwithseth.com or call (720) 605-3900. Again, that's goldwithseth.com or (720) 605-3900. Both those places will allow you to set up a quick appointment where you can talk to a wealth advisor that will help get you started on this path. Again, goldwithseth.com 7 2 0 6 0 5 3 9 0 zero.
Seth Holehouse:And so as we head into 2024, and the just the the battle of good and evil that's happening as we're entering in entering into this next election cycle, which determines a lot. I mean, look at look at how the course of America changed on 11/03/2020 when Joe Biden was selected and look how much our country has fallen since that time. And if we look at what happens after 2024, it's significant. But if you look at a lot of the indicators, whether it's the polls coming out or the lack of interest in the mainstream media, the rise in alternative media, people like yourself, you can see that there's a growing distrust of the state, the state controlled media, the state controlled corporations, the state controlled pharmaceutical industry, etcetera. So which makes me think that they're probably gonna be much more desperate heading into 2024 because Joe Biden can't magically pull off a win again.
Seth Holehouse:I think that they have a had to have a really hard time pulling the wool over our eyes one more time with that. And so do you think that all of this that you're seeing in the mass immigration, the what you're seeing through your FEMA contacts and whistleblowers, do you think that there there's some sort of event or series of events that are planned to disrupt, you know, to massively disrupt our way of life here in America to ensure that a normal election doesn't happen next year?
Speaker 2:I I absolutely think there is something in the works. And it's probably at this point, Seth, I mean, if you look at all the ingredients we have, mass illegal immigration, We have a lot of disease coming in with these immigrants. For instance, multidrug resistant tuberculosis is on the rise, not only in Texas, but everywhere in the country because thanks to the World Economic Forum puppet of Greg Abbott, he's pumped these illegals all over the country. And when they couldn't get work in the inner cities, they went into the agricultural communities for which most of them have experience, and that experience has translated zoonotic diseases like TB to be transferred to cattle, therefore slaughtering tens of thousands of herds of beef and dairy cattle, which is unnecessarily skyrocketing the price of beef. And we're seeing those price escalations now.
Speaker 2:So you're seeing supply squeezes. You're seeing trucking companies like Yellow Trucking, the largest, trucking company in the in the country that even took a $750,000,000,000 loan last year from the federal government file for bankruptcy and close, kicking out thousands and thousands of truck drivers out of work. So our supply chain, we've seen our our trains derail on the regular. We understand the Chinese are part of those attacks, have reported on it. We're seeing the FBI cover this up.
Speaker 2:They're covering up anything they can when it comes to the food insecurity that we're facing, the national security threats that we're facing with these migrants, and of course, the health security of the migrants bringing in disease. So when you consider a perfect storm of cities that are overcrowded with migrants that don't have jobs that are bringing disease and food supply waning, the cities will be the first to go upside down. When you can't feed yourself or your baby, people will do whatever they need to do in order to survive. And when the cities burn down, these same people will move out into the suburbs and the cycle will continue. Because until we close the border, until we identify all these people and gather them up and send them back from where they came.
Speaker 2:Oddly enough, a lot of these people, Seth, that came here for a better way of life. The skills they could have had applied into manufacturing jobs have been offshored to the countries from where they came. So it's a cruel joke on so many levels. And, again, humanity is expendable to this global psychopaths from the world economic forum that are the puppet masters for the regime that we call our US government, which is nothing more than globalist, puppets for those that wish to see one world government. And they need America to collapse.
Speaker 2:They need the American people to beg for government help. And then let's also not discount the fact that the WHO, which now has control, Tedros, a Marxist dictator, if you will, of the World Homicide Organization, as Doctor. Zelenko used to call the WHO, he really is in control of our congressional apparatus. And that's because Joe Biden signed over the authority of congress to have anything to say or do against a pandemic treaty, which has really been called an agreement to circumvent the need for congress to vote on whether or not they want to enter into a treaty with the world WHO. So we are in a very difficult position.
Speaker 2:There's clearly evidence of new pandemics on the horizon. They're already shipping Marburg test kits around the world to PCR tests, if if you can believe it. And they're ready for the next episode. And they are if they cannot get us to heal with a migrant, outbreak of some sort of civil unrest here, they'll bring it with a pandemic. And if the American people balk at that and they're already starting to balk at the idea of masks and on quarantines, they're waking up to the COVID threats and the and the and the fraud and the, bioterrorism they were subjected to, if they can't get us to heal with migration and illegal immigration, they're gonna bring out the pandemic because they cannot have a president Trump any more than they want.
Seth Holehouse:Up during COVID, and and they've now realized that there's this cabal and they're they're rapidly searching and they're reading the 13 bloodlines by, you know, Fritz Sprigmeyer and look at the, you know, Comedia three hundred and the Council of thirteen, and they're kind of freaking out realizing that the world's run by a small group of elite satanic psychopaths that want us all dead, which is a pretty jarring reality to come to terms with.
Speaker 2:Just stop and think what you just said. I mean, Whoopsie. Repeat that last sentence.
Seth Holehouse:Well, basically,
Speaker 2:repeat that last thing now you define them because that to me is incredibly powerful when you say a belief satanic group of psychopaths. That's a big deal.
Seth Holehouse:It is, it is. And exactly that's what you come to the conclusion of. It's as you trace everything back, and it's the the agencies, the corporatocracy and the banks, you realize there's a small group of people that I would say are, you know, being controlled directly by Satan himself that want to eliminate 90% of the world's population. And as frightening as it is, when you understand that everything else makes sense. All the chemtrails make sense, the vaccines make sense, the corruption, everything, the child trafficking, the government being complicit, all this, it all fits together.
Seth Holehouse:That's it's frightening. But when I want to again touch on that point you said that the panic is real because while it feels like this group and all their control mechanisms have so much control over the world, there's a lot of indicators that they don't. And there's many indicators that they are in fact panicking. And so I want to kind of touch on that a little more with you and see what are you seeing? I mean, do you think that these elites that want us all dead, right?
Seth Holehouse:Do you think that they are weakened? Do you think that they're panicking? Do you think that they are losing grip on the control they have over this world, especially over America?
Speaker 2:I do. I do. Because I'm starting to see the controlled opposition within, dare I say it, the truth teller movement. I don't like calling people like you and myself truth tellers because you should automatically be truthful and you should just be truthful. If you're reporting, it should be because you truly believe it to be true.
Speaker 2:You've done your research, right? So the fact that we have to label ourselves something really irks me. But for lack of a better way to describe the group of my colleagues for which I consider you one and other folks like Mel Kay and others as people, Clay Clark, that like to assess the situation and present it in the fashion that you do on a regular basis so well, I'm finding that there's a lot of controlled opposition in this group of truth tellers, people with very big platforms that engage with others that are using the same pharmaceutical playbook to push pills, potions, and powders and prop people up, give them because they have a name as somebody who stood up. But people that stand up, sometimes you start to see the cracks and the chinch in their armor because perhaps they're not everything you thought they were when they first came out the gate because they're still pushing big pharma products. They can be lovely people.
Speaker 2:I'm not discounted. These people aren't even some of these people are friends. I consider them friends. But what I also see is people that are still controlled by the same playbook in the big pharmaceutical world using money to garner a certain narrative. For instance, and I'm not gonna call names out right now because I'm really not prepared to because I'm actually working on a project to look at all of this a certain group of individuals to actually figure out who they are and whose master they truly serve and why are they in this position.
Speaker 2:But for instance, Robert Kennedy junior, really nice man. I've appreciated a lot of the work he's done. I think he's really helped people understand the demon that Fauci is and the god for which Fauci prays to and and how Fauci has really murdered millions of people around the world. But I also have you know, I part ways with him on the climatology abortion and a few others. But it would have been an interesting idea.
Speaker 2:Perhaps maybe he would have made a good vice president pick for Trump only because president Trump still hasn't fully addressed the vaccine issue. Although he started to make noise about the fact that he thinks there's more investigation and research that needs to be done. And I applaud him for that. But that's, you know, I thought they would balance each other out. That might be a good balance.
Speaker 2:Perhaps general Flynn would be a good vice president pick. Betting back to Robert Kennedy junior, you start to look at the people who are never Trumpers that are coming on board and talking about a lot of RFK stuff. And these are the people that came out in advance on the COVID stories that weren't even COVID experts to begin with, or even doctor experts to begin with, but because they had a platform and are propped up by other people with platforms, you start to wonder, is this serving the purpose that really is gonna serve and save America? And I think people right now are starting to question everything they hear, including this podcast right now, including me. They should go back and look at my, you know, truth social feed, my Twitter feed, my Getter feed, and see if there's any inconsistency in what I say.
Speaker 2:Because if you see that, you should question it. And what I'm asking Americans to do, which is what think they're doing now, is they're starting to question everything, and we only have COVID to thank for that. And I think that's why they're panicking. I think that's why the people in Washington DC and the global elite are panicking, and they're expediting this immigration into this country, and it's a flood that's happening right now. And this is the rainy season, by the way, in the Darien Gap, and they've seen numbers that they've never seen before coming through the gap.
Speaker 2:So they're expediting the amount of people they can get in because they need this takedown of America. And I believe that's part of the panic and people because they're seeing this mass migration and because they've started to question everything that COVID did when they're seeing all the died suddenly and all the people who are injured, the questioning of the narrative has begun. And that is the part that brings panic to these people because they can't lose control of the narrative. Sean Hannity is irrelevant. Laura Ingraham, I really like irrelevant.
Speaker 2:You know, you are far more relevant than those two put together. Why? Because you were out in front, you were digesting everything, and you're bringing it to people in real time and in a way that makes sense as opposed to just parroting talking points. And you're not beholden to the Foe News Corporation and their board of directors, Paul Ryan, who's a never Trumper and really a never America First person, forget Trump. So this is what is slowly has evolved.
Speaker 2:And I think COVID has really helped it. And I think the fact that they're being pushed into expediting their plans more quickly and more rapidly, and people aren't just allowing it to seep in without their conscious paying attention. Their conscious is woken up and that's the panic. And with this whole Speaker Trump movement, people are questioning, oh, is that a rhino move? Is that a Democrat plant?
Speaker 2:No. In fact, it's really a thing and President Trump is openly talking about it. So when you have somebody who is being indicted 50 ways to Sunday over nothing, openly talking about stepping in and being in a role that is significantly even more powerful than the president on some levels, there's the panic. And that's what they can't withstand Because once they start to panic, Seth, this is when people make mistakes. And if we're just calm and methodical about it, we have an opportunity to move in and recapture and restore this republic, which is really what hangs in the balance right now.
Seth Holehouse:And so, wanna I wanna touch on that more too, because you're someone that's very focused on exposing the enemy's evil plans and and, you know, educating people, but you're also very focused on action. Here's what we can do. Here's what the average person can do. And that's one of the main points of, you know, doing these interviews is to try to arm people with not just the truth, because that, know, they needed to find, you know, of truth, as you just mentioned, question everything and find their own way of understanding and coming to conclusion, okay, this is what I think is true. But also understanding what they can do.
Seth Holehouse:So you've mentioned tactical civics, you mentioned a few other things. So, you know, for people that are sitting and watching and listening, and let's say that, you know, I want to touch on this too with you as well. Say they're living in a blue city, and they've been considering, you know, moving out or whatever it is. What are some action steps that you would give people both in terms of, hey, here's some proactive things you can do to help save the country, and here's some practical advice on how you can protect your family and hunker down for what's coming?
Speaker 2:I'm gonna start with question two first, because, that I think people are really people are getting nervous. If you haven't already started stocking up on non perishable food and water, you need to do it now. And I would minimally have six months worth of non perishable food and water. Whatever it is you want to eat and survive, whatever it is you can afford, start aggregating it now. It's never too late.
Speaker 2:There's lots of places to do it. I'm not gonna pitch any one. I'll let Seth handle that. This is your show. Number two.
Speaker 2:And and I would definitely I would get out of the cities if you can afford to. If you can find, a place if somebody wants to re sublet your apartment or you can sell it, whatever it is, and move into another facility or another apartment or a home out in the suburbs or even in the country, you'll be safer because it is going to be very, very bumpy. And frankly, a country might give you an opportunity to grow your own food on top of that. But in terms of engaging at a strategic level and performing our civic duty, Seth, as you know, is required in our declaration of independence. Our founding fathers were very clear about this.
Speaker 2:TacticalCivics.com offers what I consider an add water and stir recipe solution for that. And very simply, it's engaging people at the grand jury level, and it's setting up chapters county by county across the country right now. They've had an explosion in growth in tactical civics since I started talking about this about four months ago. I know Scott McKay talks about it. Mel Kay talks about it.
Speaker 2:Michelle Swinick talks about it. There's multiple colleagues out here in the new media sphere that are now engaging because we, the people, are the solution. It says it right on our constitution, we, the people. So we the people have always been the government. And tactical civics not only trained you on what that means, but very simply what a citizen grand jury does and how we can empower a citizen grand jury to not fight the system, but indict the co conspiracers that have corrupted the system.
Speaker 2:And we have, Seth, as you know, and the guests you've had, like Doctor. David Martin, we have thousands and thousands of examples of crimes against humanity well documented that are, you know, 18 USC crimes and others, and we have thousands of crimes of election fraud and other crimes that these, you know, quotes public servants, really politicians, because they're not one and the same, committed against We the People. And so once that grand jury is stood and formed and presented with the evidence, they have the choice to indict or not. And once they indict, they would present, that recommendation for indictment to a sheriff in that county. Now let's assume the sheriff is constitutional, and by nature, the sheriff would make that arrest and they would hold a Article III court with a jury of that indict indicted's peers and have a a fair trial.
Speaker 2:The prosecutor is presented with the indictment from the grand jury and everything that you know, all the crimes committed, and that prosecutor would go to trial and try to prosecute the accused. Obviously, they're afforded a defense whether they can afford it or not, and the jury makes the ultimate call. And as you know, the jury has more power than the judge. Let's assume that the sheriff is more concerned with their paycheck from their corporation of the county for which they're employed. Then you would have a second amendment constitutionally formed militia.
Speaker 2:Not the kind the FBI would have you believe with their propaganda of men in camo and tacky gear running around the woods, Seth. I'm talking about a fully, you know, well versed, well regulated militia, people that are here to enforce anything the grand jury finds, guilty of or indicts, and they would make that they would make that arrest. That is how the system is supposed to work. The common law grand jury and second amendment militia has been around. Well, the militia idea has been around for a thousand years.
Speaker 2:This is not new, and this is rooted right in our constitution. So this is how the people can organize, and tactical civics does an incredible job of organizing chapters in every county around the country. As I said, they've got about a thousand now. We've got 2,100 more counties to go, and it's on an explosive exponential growth curve. So I expect this to be complete before the election in 2024.
Speaker 2:But this is how we will county by county local action will have a national impact, and we will clean up the criminals that have been destroying America right down to the county level.
Seth Holehouse:Alright, folks. I've got a quick message for you. I have one simple question. If today you could no longer go purchase more food for your family, with the food stores that you have in your home, how long would you be able to feed your family? Would it be a week, three weeks, a month, two months, a year?
Seth Holehouse:This is a really important question folks that we have to be very realistic about because the elites are proactively trying to put us into a state of food crisis and a state of famine. I'm sure you've seen all of the different food processing plants and farms that are blowing up. You've got cattle dying by the tens of thousands. They're proactively trying to collapse our food system because they know if they can control our food, they can control us. And so one of the best ways to be outside of their control is to be able to have our own stores of food and to be able to produce our own food.
Seth Holehouse:So there's really two things I would recommend. One is having heirloom seeds that you can grow your own food with, making sure that they're non GMO heirloom seeds that that way you can harvest your seeds this year, use them next year. You can use these seeds for generations. Literally, it's how it will work. The other thing though is this high quality storable food.
Seth Holehouse:This is food that's sitting somewhere, it's hidden in your basement, buried in your backyard, whatever it ever it is. So that way if there is a crisis, if there is an emergency, you might have three months set aside to get through that time period. And so for this, I would highly recommend a company called Heaven's Harvest. This is an amazing Christian owned patriot company, and what they're doing is they're making high quality storable food. Again, lot of the food companies, they say these food buckets, they're all about maximizing calories per dollar.
Seth Holehouse:They're filling the buckets with a bunch of filler and junk like sweet beverages, etc. But Heaven's Harvest, they focus on very high quality food that will last up to twenty five years on the shelf. They also sell heirloom seeds. You can buy all of your seed, you can buy all of your restorable food. And look folks, personally, I would recommend having at least three months per person in your household, if not six months or even a year.
Seth Holehouse:Again, depends on your budget, but definitely make sure you have some seeds because that seed those seeds could be worth their weight in gold, if not more in the future. So to go ahead and do this right now, go up a new tab and go to heavensharvest.com. And if you use the promo code Seth, that's s e t h, promo code Seth, you'll save 15% off of your entire order. So again, folks, the time is running out and you'd rather be three months or one year early than one day late. Again, heavensharvest.com and use promo code Seth to save 15% today.
Seth Holehouse:And so given everything that we've talked about, how would you rate your hope for the future of America? From say a scale of one to two, where are you at with your hope right now?
Speaker 2:I'm I am still at an eight and a half slash nine. And the only reason I don't give it a 10 is because, you know, at this point, devil or the joker is always the wild card. Right? We have no idea if they do something horrific. Right?
Speaker 2:If they do, you know, some kind of weapon of mass destruction that results in mass casualty of death here in The United States, Anytime you have something that horrific, it always sets us back because we're humans. You know, we we care about our we care about our fellow man. We're a very generous country. And when something tragic happens in our country or anywhere, Americans are always the first to put everything aside and go and help. So if we have to put everything aside from facing for an election or indicting another criminal because we have a mass casualty event, Americans are gonna do that over and time and time again because we put our fellow man ahead of our politics.
Speaker 2:But at some point we need to get a grip and start to round up these bad guys and extricate them and put them through a true jury of their peers, give them a fair shake. But we need to rid ourselves of the criminals in this country that continually perpetuate crimes against humanity like nine eleven. We have the details, the story is up, it's out, Waco is out, Ruby Ridge is out, COVID is out. We know about these crimes, the weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist in Iraq, the wars we have been in, the endless wars, it just doesn't end. They've our we our government is at war with the people, and we need to stop the war with the people by taking it right down to the county level and and removing the the parties that support the policies coming from up high.
Speaker 2:Governor Abbott could have shut the border a long time ago. He shut it for COVID. I don't care what Biden says. He has the power. He needs to shut the border.
Seth Holehouse:What do you think is stopping more Americans from getting involved? And whether it's tactical civics or just just getting involved with the that feeling of I need to do something to protect my country or we're gonna lose our country. Like, what's what's what's the barrier here?
Speaker 2:Apathy and lack of education. Americans have become apathetic. They become absorbed in Instagram and Facebook and, you know, The Voice or whatever, you know, bubblegum television there is, but they're also uneducated. Civics has been written out of the education system forty years ago. I mean, they just stopped teaching it.
Speaker 2:So people don't know when I tell you a grand jury has more power than the prosecutor, more power than the judge, and they can actually investigate the person who convened the grand jury so so they could figure out or not if they're being weaponized by the person convening the grand jury. And they should. They should look at anybody convening a grand jury. What is your motive for having us investigate whatever it is you're putting in front of us? That's the power of a grand jury, and the people don't know it.
Speaker 2:So people need to take a little bit of responsibility. As I've said before, we need to atone for our sins of dropping the ball on our civic duty, but it's okay. Our God is forgiving, and he did give us the second covenant nation. He gave us very specific instructions through our founders who penned it all in our constitution, which was written in plain old English, common law, plain English, not legalese, not statutes and codes and funky legal language, lawfare, if you will. We can actually pick up that little piece of parchment ourselves.
Speaker 2:It's a nice little slim book these days. Read it and engage. And that's what Americans need to do. But I don't think, Seth, frankly, until the doorstep of of of Satan or still Satan darkens your doorstep, and I think it's gonna come when Babylon falls, When you see a complete collapse of our financial system, which is also coming, I think that's when people are really gonna wake up. I'm not sure the migration, the disease, even a lockdown is gonna get people enough up in arms to finally do something.
Speaker 2:They'll be outraged, but finances and not being able to have money to feed your family will change the game considerably, which is one of the reasons why I believe they're stepping this whole financial collapse down in the fashion in which they are. Frankly, the best thing that could happen is if it just collapsed all tomorrow because it would engage everybody. And again, when people are suffering, Americans always help Americans. So I'm not troubled by that, to be honest.
Seth Holehouse:It's a good point too about, you know, finance and food. It's the basic things that people need to survive. And it's funny because I interviewed, Aaron Brickman, who's an analyst, and he's was looking at stock market and he's made a lot of very successful predictions. But one thing he says is, Look, I've learned to never underestimate the elite's ability to extend and slow down something that is everything is pointing towards it collapsing, and they can just draw it out. They can draw it out for as long as they need to, it seems.
Seth Holehouse:But something you mentioned, the, you mentioned apathy and lack of education. I think those just, those go hand in hand. Because I think that one of the reasons why people are so apathetic or not as apathetic towards the situation, they're just, they just don't know. So they're naturally consumed with fishing or sports or Taylor Swift or, you know, the next restaurant they're going to that night because they just have no idea because their sources to get information, whether it's going on YouTube and looking around or Facebook or turning on the TV, they're just not getting it, which is why I think, you know, like what you're doing, what I'm doing, these types of shows are so critical. And this is why we're being attacked so much with censorship and shadow banning and everything.
Seth Holehouse:Because I really believe that if more Americans had access to the information that both of us are consistently presenting, and they understood the true threat that our country is facing right now and understood that if they don't act in a couple years, we may not have America anymore. I think you'd see a lot more people actually taking action.
Speaker 2:I agree. I agree, Seth. And again, it really is people have to have a gut check. And sometimes it takes their backside to be on fire, I. E.
Speaker 2:Their wallet before their gut will feel anything because perhaps you can't afford to feed yourself anymore and it's become that desperate. I do still believe because Americans have always been so good in crisis that when the crisis really hits home, that we will be here and be there for each other. I I don't have any I have no doubt in my mind. I I really see Americans always pulling together. I mean, we didn't know about nine eleven.
Speaker 2:We thought some bad people flew planes in the buildings, but we knew nothing else about thermite and, you know, controlled demolition of these towers and Building 7. We just didn't know. We were completely snowed, we believe George Bush at the time by and large, even though some of us had a gut check, something wasn't right. We just didn't have any information back then. But we came together and we're like, we're gonna get the bad guys that did this because nobody does this to an American.
Speaker 2:Well, it turns out it was Americans doing it to Americans. And frankly, I don't even call people Americans. They're demons. They're globalist psychopaths, and they put profit over people and their personal finances over all of us and their agenda, which is not about, the sustainability of a republic. It's about destroying what our founding fathers created because these people were never in agreement from it from the beginning.
Speaker 2:It goes back to an age old war. Right? And, you know, that's a whole other show. And perhaps we can talk about that sometime, but I know you've probably already done all that. So, Seth, I again, I stand firm and and comfortable in saying that I do believe we're gonna come out of this.
Speaker 2:It is just gonna be one hella bumpy ride for a while, and it's gonna it's gonna there'll be casualties, sad to say. There always are, But we'll try and mitigate that as much as possible.
Seth Holehouse:I agree. I'm in the same boat. Like, I have hope. But that doesn't mean that I don't think that there's gonna be a rough road ahead. I think it's a very bright future, but we're still in the dark tunnel now.
Speaker 2:There's
Seth Holehouse:still some darkness to So Ann, where can people follow your work? Because as you know, if this is folks first introduction to you, they're probably thinking, gosh, this guest is Seth Haas, she's so professional, she should have her own show. She looks like she was just meant for broadcast television. Where can people watch what you're doing?
Speaker 2:My show airs on Brighteon TV every night at 08:00 right now dot news, as well as rumble. I have a rumble channel, Ann Vandersteel. I'm on social media AnnVandersteel on everything from truth to CloudHub, Getr, Twitter, Locals, Facebook, Gab. I'm pretty much everywhere. But if you go to RightNow or Rumble or, Brighty on TV, you can find me on, their platform as well.
Speaker 2:It comes out at 08:00. And, I have a Substack as well, ann van der steele dot substack dot com. There it is. You got it. So, I'm really honored to have the opportunity to work with the folks at Brighteon.
Speaker 2:Mike Adams, what a tremendous guy. He's such a, he's such a hardworking individual, somebody who pulls in incredible guests, and he has his the best of intentions for everybody when he's passing information out. He works tirelessly on behalf of humanity, which is really a blessing in of itself. So I I'm so grateful for the opportunity, Seth. Thank you so much.
Seth Holehouse:It's such a pleasure to have you. Thank you so much. And we'll be in touch, and we'll certainly have some updates again.
Mel K:Alright.