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John:Ever wondered how you could turn your side hustle into a full time gig and spend more time together?
Vikki:Hi. I'm Vikki, a number one best selling author.
John:And I'm John, a retired Los Angeles police officer. Welcome to dig the well, where we help couples navigate the world of business.
Vikki:We've been married for thirty five years, and because we built a successful side business, John retired nine years earlier than he originally planned from the Los Angeles Police Department after twenty five years on the job. Now we spend more time together, and we want to help couples like you do the same.
John:Join us as we help you overcome common obstacles, and we show you how to make extra income without sacrificing family time.
Vikki:Ready to dig deep and build your well? Let's get started. Oh, and I'll talk a little bit about the podcast before I introduce you. So welcome back. Welcome back to dig the well.
Vikki:We are excited that you are here. Thank you for being part of our community. John and I love this community. He's not here with me today because I get some girl time fun with a fellow yay. With a fellow female boss babe entrepreneur.
Vikki:And I can't wait for you to hear her story. Those of you that have been following our podcast for a while now, you know that we are all about multiple streams of income for one, as entrepreneurs and also digging the well before you need the water. And I'm not sure how much we're gonna get into that part of the conversation, but that is the name of the podcast. And the fact that John and I started our own business when we didn't necessarily need the water, need the extra income. But, when we did, we were able to turn up the volume on that income and then retire him, as most of you know, nine years early from the Los Angeles Police Department.
Vikki:And now we're having the time of our lives, and we love highlighting other women and men in business. And so I've got a special guest today, my good friend. We've gotten to know each other at several different women's networking organizations. And it is none other than Natalia Jansen. And it's funny.
Vikki:I just found out before we started recording, Natalia, that your, husband or ex husband was Dutch, and I'm Danish. And when I saw the spelling of your name, Jansen, with the e n, because sometimes it's o n, but yours is e n, I immediately thought Scandinavian, but he's Dutch or you're you know? So that's really cool. So we're kinda connected that way too. Yes.
Vikki:Yes. So welcome to the podcast, Natalia. We're so glad you're here.
Natalia Jansen:Oh, it is my and an honor. Thank you. Yes. Absolutely. I'm so excited.
Vikki:So I'd love for you to tell our audience. I know you've recently had a rebrand, and it's exciting times. But before we get into that, tell us a little bit about your journey as an entrepreneur, You know, where you started? Because I find your background fascinating. I was a dance major.
Vikki:I don't know if I ever told you that. Maybe I did. And I know acting for you. Right? So tell us tell us how you started your journey.
Natalia Jansen:Well, my journey in life has been really fun and quite extraordinary. And I think that's part of what led me to the becoming an entrepreneur to really finding my own path through the through life. I came to United States as an exchange student at 17, my senior year in high school. I came from Slovakia, and an amazing family chose to host me in McLean, Virginia. So that's where I was introduced to United States.
Natalia Jansen:And, of course, I came with this big idea of a dream. I wanted a bigger life. Slovakia is a beautiful country, but it's tiny. It's at the heart of Europe. And for some reason, I really wanted more.
Natalia Jansen:I wanted to see the world and be a global citizen. And so when I had this opportunity to go and be a student in The US, my, you know, soul lit up on fire. It was an opportunity to yes. Like, this is my first step to go out there and see the world and see what's out there. So Love it.
Natalia Jansen:I love that. Really grateful that my parents were on board and agreed because it was not an easy thing to do. The program cost $5,000. It was way back in 1994. And it took us three years to put the money together.
Natalia Jansen:My my father even had to get a job abroad to, you know, be able to save up enough money for me for this for this to happen. And that's why we decided I was gonna go my senior year with the goal of going to college in The US so that I can stay and build a life here.
Vikki:Love that. Oh my goodness. I didn't know that about you, and I absolutely love it. It reminds me because being a u in The US, so many of us come from immigrant families. And my grandparents came from Denmark and opened a delicatessen way back in the thirties, but they became entrepreneurs.
Vikki:They wanted the same thing. Denmark is a tiny little country. It used to be huge, but then they got taken over by all these other countries. It's a tiny little country, and they wanted the American dream much like you did. That is so cool.
Vikki:And we had a foreign exchange student stay with my family when I was a junior in high school. So my parents hosted, a a Swedish friend and or student, and now we're we've remained friends all these years. Are you still in touch with the host family? Yeah. Yes.
Natalia Jansen:I'm in touch. They I know their kids, their grandkids. I go visit sometimes. Mhmm. You know, they it's it's wonderful.
Vikki:I know. Do they almost feel like surrogate grandparents? I mean, parents kind of like second parents?
Natalia Jansen:Yes. Yeah. And then I have another and I have another family that has really played a a major role in helping me, you know, feel at home and adapt to US and continue to pursue my dream. Because the college I got to go to is Lake Forest College in Illinois. Oh.
Natalia Jansen:It's a small private school. And that story was also it's like, you cannot you cannot plan for this. You know, these are just it's what I teach today is, you know, you you you must feel, you must know what it is that you truly desire. And then you simply know that it's gonna happen. Yes.
Vikki:Right.
Natalia Jansen:How? In those days, I didn't know what I was doing, but instinctively in me, like, when I really wanted something, I simply put all of my energy and mind to this is what I would want. I wanted to go to college in United States. I was, you know, applying for local colleges in in Washington DC and Virginia where I was. My counselor was talking to the local universities and it just happened that the gentleman who was looking for students to recruit for Lake Forest College happened to be sitting in her office and overheard the conversation.
Natalia Jansen:And he was inspired to say, well, this young woman sounds like a student we might wanna have in our school.
Vikki:Right. Wow.
Natalia Jansen:How great. Me to come and check out the school. He gave me a free ticket. He let me stay in the dorm room with his niece who happened to be studying at the college at the time. And and I went and I got to experience what it's like to be in college.
Natalia Jansen:And I don't know if you've been to Lake Forest.
Vikki:No. I haven't. It is a fairy tale town.
Natalia Jansen:It literally is in the forest next to a lake. Oh, wow. And it's so beautiful. The structures, the architecture, it's it's just it's it's a it's picturesque. It's like a it's like a fairy tale town.
Natalia Jansen:Oh. So I fell in love with it. The school was very small. And, like, I had no other frame of reference. It was a private school.
Natalia Jansen:It was wonderful. They had a theater. That was it. It was sold.
Vikki:Were you were you also into theater in high school or just when you got to college?
Natalia Jansen:No. I discovered theater in high school because that's how I decided that I was gonna study theater because theater opened my world. Yes. You cannot express how much I came alive when I this when I went when I stepped into theater. Yes.
Natalia Jansen:And even my audition, I auditioned for a it was like a community center kids theater troupe. Yes. And I went, and they were looking for just few people to do a kind of like a modern deconstruction type play, original play. It was called replica two. It was a deconstruction of the story of Medea.
Natalia Jansen:I don't know if you're familiar with the Medea. She was married to Jason, and he cheated on her. And they had two kids and, you know, she was known as a powerful woman and witch, and she decided, you know, to kill the children. She had two sons, and she did not want them to grow up to be terrible men like her husband. And she poisoned the the princess and the king and left Jason to, you know, suffer the consequences.
Natalia Jansen:That was the myth. Right? That's the story. We were deconstructing the story, and I played one element of Madea, well, before. In the audition, what I was asked to do and I can get like, I've never been to the like, I have never done anything.
Natalia Jansen:Had no experience. When I got on stage, and I was asked to be a rag.
Vikki:Oh,
Natalia Jansen:interesting. And so that was a moment where I simply okay. Rag. If I'm a rag, what does the rag do? Right?
Natalia Jansen:Exactly. I relaxed my body. I relaxed my body and I started moving through the stage as if somebody is moving me around and cleaning the floor. And I just I just relaxed and I just followed an instinct that I had zero experience. Wow.
Natalia Jansen:It worked because I was cast. You know? I was I became part of the troop, and I was cast as Medea's strength. Oh. My costume was chain mail chain chain mail.
Natalia Jansen:Right? Chain mail. Right? I had this gray chain mail. I had a big, like, hair.
Natalia Jansen:My sleeves were all the way down. It was huge, and I was had big giant combat boots. And I was the part of her that was the strength that insisted on her, you know, taking the rest. And it was really fun because I got to just explore things that I've never done. And we went on to, yeah, we went on to a competition, you know, a national theater festival in capital city in Bratislava, and I ended up winning an award for best actress as a rookie of the year.
Natalia Jansen:It's really Wow.
Vikki:Look at that. Holy cow. That's interesting. And and when you're talking about the character, I remember talking to other actors about the fact that when you play almost an alter ego of your actual personality, that's way more fun than than who you actually are when you're playing somebody like the rag that is or the the chains.
Natalia Jansen:Yeah. Yeah. There is this freedom in Wow. Letting go. And then where you don't you don't judge, you stop judging yourself.
Natalia Jansen:You are exploring. You are stepping into an experiment, and you're giving it all a gap, and you are figuring out how it feels. And it Right. And that so that's where my rebrand was born. Like Yeah.
Natalia Jansen:It took thirty years to Yeah. To get there. Yeah, this is this is what I this is the main message I wanna teach to people to help them understand that they get to do that with their real life. You get to, like, go of all the labels or the identity that you've adopted or the parts of it that don't work. And you get to create and script and step into a role that you truly want that feels expansive, feels vibrant, electric, and alive.
Natalia Jansen:And in a safe space, when you start as if you are simply acting, right, you're pretending you're stepping into the role, it gives you that license to mess it up Yes. Any way you want. It's it's not there's no big consequence in my workshop or when we're working together. Right? There is Right.
Natalia Jansen:No consequence to you being a different version of yourself, but you get to feel it. You get to feel it in your entire body. You get to have the sensation, the emotion, the energy, and that's what you discover whether that's really what you want. That's really aligned. And then you can step into it in the real world.
Vikki:Yes. So let so let's segue right into that. So the name of your new, rebrand is go ahead and I was about to say it, but I don't wanna mess
Natalia Jansen:it up
Vikki:mess it up.
Natalia Jansen:Starry in your life.
Vikki:Staring in your life. I love it. So you're stepping into the starring role of your life. So starring in your life. Yeah.
Natalia Jansen:I mean, how many people do you know that they are playing a supporting role in someone else's story?
Vikki:Oh. Or they're waiting
Natalia Jansen:they're waiting for permission. They're waiting for the right time, for the right conditions. Right? You know what? All of that is nothing but excuses.
Natalia Jansen:I mean, that's the rough way to say it. But the excuses and the beliefs, yes, the pressures from growing up and taking on an identity and and labels that we simply accept because we are we observe the world around us. Right. Right? We we listen to what others tell us, whether it's parents, teachers, news, social media, stories, movies.
Natalia Jansen:Right? We are bombarded with all this information, and and we take it as truth, as facts. But the the fact really is that none of that is really the truth. All of that are different projections of the people who came before. Your reality that you live is a mirror of what you feel and think of yourself on the inside.
Natalia Jansen:So true. I'll get in there and help you unlock the parts of you that you want, not the parts that you think you should want or Right. That you were told that you are.
Vikki:Right. So let's yeah. Sorry. Let I didn't mean to interrupt you, but I was gonna say, like, I was thinking a lot of friends of mine that say I'm shy. You know, that, you know, I'm shy.
Vikki:I couldn't do that. And I totally agree with you. I think that's what other people have told them. You know, maybe, of course, they felt a little insecure, but then their mother or father told them as they were growing up, oh, it's okay. She's shy.
Vikki:Right? And they started believing it. Yeah. And you absorbed it,
Natalia Jansen:and that became your truth. But that's how it is. That's you are a blank slate. When you come into this world, you are fully in your genius zone. You are exploring the world.
Natalia Jansen:You have an open mind. You're following your intuition, your instincts. You're learning, you know, what you have available to you. Right? You get to discover your body.
Natalia Jansen:You you feel your emotions. You feel your feelings when your parents piss you off. You are mad. When you're really having fun, you're happy. Yeah.
Natalia Jansen:So you're fully in your expressive genius in your alignment, but you are discovering what it's all about. Right?
Vikki:Right. Right.
Natalia Jansen:And then as you grow, the society has certain expectations, certain rules. The school has certain structures. And so you become you start conforming to fit in
Vikki:So true.
Natalia Jansen:Instead of continuing to express and learn how to navigate who you are in that
Vikki:Very true. Very true.
Natalia Jansen:Yes. And then you become the identities that you take in. Right? So, yes, if you are someone who started off being a quiet person because you're more introspective, because you like to think about things before you express them. And then someone labeled you, well, you're shy and then you've heard it 100,000 times, then, you turn to be shy.
Natalia Jansen:And then you've accepted this persona and now you act like you're someone who's shy. And that's okay. Right. Except you gotta know that just as you've accepted the label of being shy, you can choose to explore new identity as someone who is outgoing. Right.
Natalia Jansen:Just try it. I love that. And get what it's like to be outgoing. And, you know, you don't have to take it on right away. Just open
Vikki:Little by little. Yeah. Yeah.
Natalia Jansen:Open a corner of your mind, get curious, and experiment.
Vikki:Right. So how do you work with people? So say somebody comes to you and says, okay. That's it. After listening to this podcast that you are on, I want to change my life.
Vikki:I felt like I was hiding. I wasn't the true expression of who I really wanted to be. What did so when they come to you to change that, what is, like, the first step for them and you? The first step is we we we connect and we talk about all of these observations. Right?
Vikki:Because you have to acknowledge where you are, who you are, and accept all of it and with without any judgment. But you have to know where you are. Mhmm.
Natalia Jansen:And then you have to know where you wanna be. Right. And then my job is to help you bridge that gap and do it fast. And Got it. I like to say fun and easy.
Vikki:Okay? Yeah.
Natalia Jansen:I like to I believe that our the foundation of a human being and a human life and just life in general is joy. Yes. Vibration. Like, when you are aligned with life and you are in your star power, you are feeling the life coursing through you and you are feeling joyful. And it is natural to you.
Natalia Jansen:It's natural every time you encounter something that you love that works for you. Right?
Vikki:Right. Right.
Natalia Jansen:And so having fun exploring the possibilities and being playful with it without putting so much pressure on it and not just thinking about it. You know? Right. I take people out of their head into their body and into their emotion because you have to connect all three for the transformation to occur. And transformation happens in the moment, and it happens now, and it happens when you become aware of what it is that you want to share.
Vikki:Love it. Love it. So do you do one on one coaching? Do you do group sessions? What is your
Natalia Jansen:group sessions more because there is more opportunity to play and interact with other people. Right. I also I I do one on one coaching, but I limit it to very few people who are absolutely committed and serious. And it's a it's a I encourage people to start with my master class, Star Power Masterclass. Okay.
Natalia Jansen:Because it's a monthly class. Each month, we dedicate to a specific area of life, and we go deep. Mhmm. We we go over the stories, and then we just explore, different way of looking at them and thinking about them. And then we actually embody it through activities like improv and role play.
Vikki:I was gonna ask about improv. That's funny. I struggled with improv. So I I I told you I was a dance major, and I could dance improv. No problem.
Vikki:In fact, I hope none of my university professors are listening because I have a mass, bachelor's in dance from UC Irvine. But one of my final, dances, like, it's kind of a final paper. They actually just have you dance. I went in and I did this most of it was improv. Like, I had not choreographed it, and I just did it.
Vikki:So dance is fine. But I was worried if they're gonna ask me to do it again, I couldn't do it. But when it come to acting, when it comes I just feel so uncomfortable with that. So I wanna ask you, how do you get a person past that uncomfortable? I know they have to push through it, you know, to get through it.
Vikki:But what do you do you
Natalia Jansen:do anything special? Not a big fan of any pushing because when you're creating resistance, that's not helpful. Right? Okay. Life is about flowing.
Natalia Jansen:It's about feeling. It's about being aligned and finding the way that works for you. See, I really like to honor that each person is, first of all, an unique individual and a divine expression of this one life that's happening for all of us. Right? We're all connected, and we're all very unique expressions of this divine life.
Natalia Jansen:You are also the highest authority on your life because only you can decide and define what that starring role in your life looks like. So what I will do is make an invitation and create a safe space for you to just experiment, and you only take the step that you're ready to take.
Vikki:Oh, good. I like that.
Natalia Jansen:Improvisation, there's the first rule. First rule is yes. Right? Uh-huh. Whatever life throws at you, we're connecting.
Natalia Jansen:Right? Or whatever partner in your improv, whatever idea did come up, you go along with it. You say yes. You cannot deny a fact in an improv. Right?
Vikki:Okay.
Natalia Jansen:Right. Imaginary world you're creating, you've gotta play along with that world. That's the first rule. The second rule is a yes and. That means you are accepting what's happening, You're taking the idea, and you're adding your idea to it.
Natalia Jansen:You're creating. Right. Right. That's what you would do. Like, how often do you have conversations with people that you've never met before?
Vikki:Actually, at some of these networking groups that we've gone to, I do. Right? So is that a form of improv? Is that what you're yeah.
Natalia Jansen:It is, actually. Someone tell you exactly what to say and you know what they're gonna say back? No. No. You are in a moment.
Natalia Jansen:You are present. You're here. You're listening. You're taking the information. You're processing it quickly, and then you're offering a response.
Natalia Jansen:That's improv.
Vikki:Yeah. That's very true. Yeah. That's very true. That's a good way to phrase it for somebody that doesn't understand it or, you know, wanna recognize it.
Natalia Jansen:You are improvising every single day of your life except the difference is you have a subconscious script that's running the stories. So your responses may look alike. You have certain ways of looking at things, and they are staying in the same zone so you see you're experiencing the same types of results. So when you are doing improv in a creative space and you are stepping into a different role, a different persona, or you are taking on a position that's different than yours, what's happening is you have to get your brain to start thinking of different ideas Right. Of different ways of responding.
Natalia Jansen:You have to embody the character that you're being. And so then when you take that that playfulness and experimentation, you can take it into your real life situation. And when you notice that you're being okay. I don't know. Your kids left socks on the all over the floor in the bathroom, and your first instinct is,
John:oh my god. Right? So then you
Natalia Jansen:notice, okay. Well, let's not let's try something different. Right? How about I was like, my god. I love how you like to, you know, pick up the socks.
Natalia Jansen:And we're like, right? Instead of being here, it's like, I am so proud of you. I know that you're gonna pick up the sock, and I'm gonna walk into the room tomorrow, and it'll be, you know, in order for
Vikki:you. Right?
Natalia Jansen:Yes. The idea is to just start noticing. That's the key. Until you catch yourself and notice what you're doing that you're repeating a pattern that's unconscious and it's
Vikki:Right.
Natalia Jansen:That's reactive. So an improv is an opportunity to kinda practice that. Start being conscious. Start being aware and learning to think and look at situations in a different way.
Vikki:Right. I love that. That is so good. You helped me reframe that. And I bet a lot of the people listening to that ever have ever done improv, and they just wanna run away.
Vikki:The minute someone says, okay. We're gonna improv. They either shrink in their chair and pull away. Right? Or they actually physically run away.
Vikki:Right. Yeah. Oh, that's good.
Natalia Jansen:Yeah. It's you know what? It's fun. If you look at it as a game and you approach it as a game because there's no high stakes. Right?
Natalia Jansen:Right. Things will happen to you. You say something silly and what? We're gonna laugh. It's gonna be great.
Natalia Jansen:Yeah.
Vikki:Exactly. So if
Natalia Jansen:you give yourself permission to just, you know, just see what comes out in the moment, that's one. That gives you freedom. Another one is being very intentional. Right? Mhmm.
Natalia Jansen:Like, if you decide, okay. I am gonna play a role of someone who is loving, kind, and compassionate no matter what. Right? And then, of course, someone will come up with something and say, oh, you're so ugly. I was like, okay.
Natalia Jansen:Yes. I am. Sometimes I do feel ugly. No problem. Right?
Natalia Jansen:Yeah. Like Right. You can respond that's aligned with your intention because you do. When you come from a place of love and, you know, grounded self assurance, nobody can nobody can do anything to you. They can say whatever they want.
Natalia Jansen:It has nothing to do with you. Right. Part of what I like to impart is making decisions. Decide who you are gonna be today. Just for the day.
Natalia Jansen:You know? If it's not working for you, you don't have to. Tomorrow, you can make a new decision.
Vikki:I love that.
Natalia Jansen:Day, you know, decide who you're gonna be and then stick to it and approach it as a game. Have fun playing and remembering, who you decided to be today. I
Vikki:love that. I love that. So your classes so there's a master class, and that's monthly. Right? You're saying?
Natalia Jansen:Yeah. So we meet weekly, but each month is dedicated to a specific, area of life. For example, love and relationships. Right? Then health and well-being.
Natalia Jansen:Then financial abundance and freedom. That's great. Or intuition and manifestation. And so each month, it's a six month course that repeats. So Mhmm.
Natalia Jansen:Someone someone can just sign up for monthly or they can purchase the six months, and there's a little discount. But it's it's a it's a life mastery class. It's a star power master class where you will be you're going to be digging into and choosing who it is that you are. If you were the star in your life, how will you be showing up? What will you be thinking and saying and doing in all of these different areas of life where
Vikki:we I love that. Almost like act as if you I'm sure you've heard that before. Act as if before you were there, you're gonna act as if a million you know, say you wanted to be a millionaire. You know, you're broke and super broke, but some you know, you wanna star into your your role or step into your starring role of being a millionaire, for example. But you've gotta first act like one.
Vikki:You know? Yeah. So I I
Natalia Jansen:see what you're saying. You you wanna practice being it. Yeah. You wanna practice being it. And, yes, at first, it's like it feels like pretending until you do it enough times that it seeps into your subconscious mind where the possibility of it becomes completely real.
Natalia Jansen:So the feeling the feeling is the secret. You must feel like a millionaire, and you must act and be a millionaire in your feeling and in your imaginary state because everything is created twice. Right? Everything is created twice. People know that, but they don't quite understand the power of this statement.
Natalia Jansen:Think about the clothes that you're wearing, the headphones that are on your ears, you know, the microphone you're speaking into. Right. First, it was an idea in someone's mind. Everything. Now here's the word.
Natalia Jansen:Everything is created twice. Yeah. So the first thought first was the thought. It was an idea in the imagination. And when you entertain that idea and you explore it and you start seeing it, you could you step into the being of it as real.
Natalia Jansen:You you see you yourself. Let's say it's a millionaire. What does that look like for you? Because nobody else's idea is same as yours. You have to create a picture, an image, and a persona of a millionaire.
Natalia Jansen:And then you have to live it in your imagination, but you have to feel it. It has to be completely completely real for you. You step on to the balcony and even though it could be like a studio apartment, but you're standing there and you own this and you are Right. I don't know, yacht over there in the marina and you the breeze of the ocean as you're sailing through and then you whatever. You are drinking your favorite cocktail and the love of your life is next to you and you could feel, you know, his kisses on your cheek.
Natalia Jansen:I mean, that's how real. Right? You you got to feel it as in as many sensory things that you can create for yourself and step into that imaginary world because as soon as you do that, it's already done.
Vikki:Love that.
Natalia Jansen:Then you just Do you
Vikki:do vision boards too? Then I'm assuming at some point, like, you put
Natalia Jansen:board is a tool. Yeah. Yes. Mhmm. Yes.
Natalia Jansen:Vision board is a tool.
Vikki:Meditation, I'm sure.
Natalia Jansen:Meditation is wonderful. My preferred method is journaling and meditation and yoga. Yeah. So Yeah. I sit in my meditation.
Natalia Jansen:I'm also a practitioner of the science of mind. So we do the spiritual mind treatment where you create the reality you want, and you understand, you acknowledge that you are one with the one mind of God, which is the old there is. There is only God and or life or the universe, whichever word resonates. But there's only one thing happening in this world, and that is life. Right.
Natalia Jansen:Life is happening, and it's constantly expanding and trying to express itself through each and every one of us. And each one of us is an expression of this life. So we are the made of the same essence. We have that creative power in us, and our imagination is our superpower. That is our creative.
Natalia Jansen:Mhmm. Yes. Learn how to use it, you know, deliberately and intentionally and know that because you are part of this one infinite intelligence, this mind that creates all these worlds, it's all easy. Moment you created new imagination, it already exists.
Vikki:Right.
Natalia Jansen:So the only thing left to do is for you to align with it and flow with that energy that's gonna guide you to what step you need to take next to live that life that you've imagined, to be the person that you've created. But you just have to know that that's it. What we we what happens for people is our mind gets in the way. Right? The mind starts to doubt because we have an idea of how it's supposed to look.
Natalia Jansen:The moment you try to figure out the how, you're getting in you're getting in the way. You're messing things up. So what you wanna do is gonna stay in that playful, joyful, vibrant, alive vision, know it's real, and then let it go and let universe take care of the rest.
Vikki:Like, go and let God is what I say. But yeah. I love that. I love that. But, also, you've got to do some activity, right, to make it happen.
Natalia Jansen:You take actions. Right.
Vikki:But you actions. Have to
Natalia Jansen:come from that place of you already being there. Right. You cannot let me let me put it this way. Einstein said this. Right?
Natalia Jansen:You cannot find a solution at the level of a problem. Right? You can't find a solution with the same mind that created the problem. Mhmm. So you've gotta be in that state, in the vision, in the reality of it, in terms of energy and emotion and thought.
Natalia Jansen:And in that space, you ask, so what should I do today? What step can I take today to get me there? Right? Yes. Yes.
Natalia Jansen:Definitely. That opportunity or idea or action, that's what you do, and then you do it with 100% precision, commitment, effort. You give it your all. When you do that, you show up 100% for what is right in front of you that comes from that inspired action, from that intuitive feeling, from that impulse of this, you know, this feels like it's a lie. You go and do that.
Natalia Jansen:Mhmm. First of all, it's gonna feel like all these wonderful things are coming up out of the blue.
Vikki:Right. But
Natalia Jansen:it's not really magic. It's because when you are in alignment Mhmm. And you step into your starring role, you know who you are. You know exactly what your desire is, and you already know that it's already done. All you have to do is be a cooperative component to
Vikki:make an
Natalia Jansen:into the physical world.
Vikki:I love it. I love that. I love all of this. So great. I love it.
Vikki:I love it.
Natalia Jansen:So Yeah. And it's really fun. It becomes fun. Life is
Vikki:Should be fun. Right?
Natalia Jansen:Not to be, you know, all struggle. Mhmm. And
Vikki:I agree.
Natalia Jansen:But what I wanna point out is it doesn't mean that it's always just, you know, unicorns and, you know, rose petals. That's not the point. The point is to recognize that at every moment, every step away, as long as you align with the vision and you have absolute faith and confidence knowing it's already done and then you're doing your part, you're taking the actions you have to take. And things show up like something a loss, loss of a job or loss of a loved one or an accident. You wanna understand that you don't wanna get caught in that moment, in that one event.
Vikki:Right.
Natalia Jansen:Yes. You honor your feelings. You feel what it feels. You allow it to pass through you, but all along knowing that this is just what it looks like it looks like as it's all coming together. Because maybe there is part of you that needed strength, that needed, you know, build more resilience or build patience or build compassion.
Natalia Jansen:Right? So all of these parts, all of the things that occur you know, my mentor, Mary Morrissey, says, you know, the the content of your life is the curriculum of your evolution. K?
Vikki:Love it.
Natalia Jansen:The content of your life is a curriculum of your evolution. Like, take Nelson Mandela, for example. Right? The angry man who was protesting against apartheid Yeah. Could never be the president.
Natalia Jansen:Right. Right. Needed to spend time in that prison and the hard labor to go through that physical, you know, the conditions of it for his spirit to be able to rise and build the strength and resilience it took to then come out to be able to reframe it, to find a different way to reach out to the journalist, to the world Mhmm. And then come out after, what, twenty seven or twenty eight years of imprisonment Yeah. And become the president.
Natalia Jansen:It was part of his evolution. Without that step, that would never happen. It's the same thing that we can take Oprah, for example. Right? Yeah.
Natalia Jansen:Her being fired as a young reporter or journalist or TV broadcaster was the necessary part of her evolution, of her growth, of her stepping into the starring role that she's embodying right now fully. So what I'm trying to say is you don't wanna look at things that occur that don't look like the way you want them or you imagine or they should, but that you will understand that all of life, that every part of it is a is a gift, is a Mhmm. There's something good in it. There's something valuable in it. There is something there to help you continue to grow, to become the star of your life that you are able to be.
Natalia Jansen:They're not meant to shrink you. They're not meant to slow you down. They're meant to help you seek the good in it. What is the lesson? Yeah.
Natalia Jansen:And that is the challenging part Mhmm. For most people is to when they're experiencing something traumatic, No. We don't wanna deny the feelings. We wanna feel them fully, and that's sometimes scary. And then people try to push it away, and then it becomes a trauma or a trapped emotion then then later plays, you know, unconscious sabotage for you.
Natalia Jansen:Right. If you if you find a way to stay with an open heart and experience life fully with all of the things and maybe stop choosing to label things as good and bad. Because That's they aren't good or bad.
Vikki:Oh, right.
Natalia Jansen:They just are.
Vikki:They just are.
Natalia Jansen:Mhmm. They just are. You get to decide how you're gonna look at it, what lens you're gonna look at it. And so something that your first instinct might be, oh, this is bad. I encourage you to when you notice that instinct, pause.
Natalia Jansen:It doesn't have to be bad. It happened. Right. Accept it and figure out what you can do with it. You know?
Natalia Jansen:Right. The opportunity to either get creative or where's the message? Maybe this is telling you you're not going in the right direction. Maybe it's a, you know, just a little more of a we call it universal universal two by four. Right?
Natalia Jansen:We have the nudges. Right? And we can but if you learn to pay attention to the nudges, to the longings, and you follow the longings, or you notice the discontent, so you would honor and remove things from your life that don't align with you. If you follow, you don't have to have a major disaster. But it's when you don't pay attention to these nudges, when you're not really responding to them, when you have a certain idea in your head and you let your head run everything and you're beginning to connect with your body and really pay attention to what it where it's guiding you, that's when the universe hits you with a two two by four.
Natalia Jansen:Yeah. Yeah. That's for sure. Message much more, you know, loud way.
Vikki:Wow. This has been amazing, Natalia. I just I'm I'm blown away by your knowledge. And, clearly, you've lived through and helped a lot of people. Otherwise, you wouldn't have the language, so eloquently spoken the way you did about all of that.
Vikki:So so amazing. And and I know we teach our kids to do all those things. Like, if something seems like a setback, don't take it as a setback. It's a learning experience. But you phrased it so much more eloquently, so beautiful.
Vikki:And I feel like so many people can learn from you in such a positive way. I absolutely love it, and I love that you brought up Nelson Mandela. Wow. I mean, what a story. Right?
Vikki:Yes. And and so many people wanna be the victim and live in that victim mentality instead of rising up, being the phoenix. Yeah.
Natalia Jansen:Because it's it's a lot easier to look for causes outside of you. Mhmm. Or blame someone or something or circumstance or let the fear dominate. Yeah. But the truth is that the power is in you.
Natalia Jansen:And every experience that you have is a reflection of what you live inside. So when you understand that you have 100% power and control over what results you create in your life and you stop looking for the blame or excuse out there and start looking inside and start being honest with it and be kind and loving and compassionate. You know? It's okay. Yeah.
Natalia Jansen:It's not comfortable to look at the ugly parts of yourself.
Vikki:Right. We
Natalia Jansen:all have them. And when when when you, you know, when you when I can look at myself, like, okay. Well, that was my ego showed up. Like Yeah. Really thought I was well, I thought I knew this, but, clearly, I don't have the result.
Natalia Jansen:And this lady, you know, just, you know, reflected it right back to me. I didn't like it, but I noticed that, like, oh, well, there you go. So instead of blaming the lady and letting my ego run the show, I was like, I recognize, okay. Their ego just popped up. That means, okay.
Natalia Jansen:What can I learn from her from this? Because, clearly, she's showing me what I
Vikki:What you needed to see. Yes. Exactly.
Natalia Jansen:Yeah. And then, you know, it's we all we are human beings. No. We are spiritual beings having a human experience. That's the right one.
Natalia Jansen:Yes. And all of the answers, everything we have access to because we have a direct connection to the infinite intelligence that creates worlds.
Vikki:So We do.
Natalia Jansen:And so the way we experience life, if we keep saying, oh, this is hard or this is gonna be hard, then
Vikki:we are hard.
Natalia Jansen:Yes. It's gonna be hard because you you you think it's hard, so you're creating it the way you have the experience that you are sending out there. It's like a radio wave signal. Right? Yes.
Natalia Jansen:Yes. So I've learned to notice when there's tension in my body, when I'm stressed about something, immediately, as soon as I notice. Mhmm. Good job for noticing. Yeah.
Natalia Jansen:And then you go, you know, I take my breaths. I I pause. I take even when I'm, like, in a conversation with my daughters because those are my daughters have the ability to, you know, trigger some things in me still. I'm so much better with other people and holding them into compassion. But my with my daughters.
Natalia Jansen:But when as soon as I noticed that I allowed myself to be reactive, I'll pause. I was like, wait a minute. And I'll close my eyes, and I'll breathe for a few seconds just, you know, get back to my body. I relax my body. And then I will ask myself, what is it that I would want?
Natalia Jansen:Right? What do I want here? What do I want? I want harmony. I want good communication.
Natalia Jansen:I want deep, meaningful connection, and I want love. And I will tell my daughter, like, okay. I'm sorry. Yeah. This is not what I want.
Natalia Jansen:I wanna hear you. I wanna understand you, and I love you. So let's try this again.
Vikki:I'd love that because I did that too. So many parents don't say I'm sorry. Like, mommy mommy needs to reset. You know, whatever, however you say it to them. Right.
Vikki:You owning that is so powerful,
Natalia Jansen:I
Vikki:think, to to teach them that.
Natalia Jansen:It is. And me being in a space of, you know, okay. This I messed up here. Exactly. I'm owning it.
Natalia Jansen:Yes. I this was not the right way to respond. This is not what I wanna create. And and then you get to create what we want. Right?
Natalia Jansen:We just have to decide what that is. So I like to you know, modeling it for the kids is amazing. And that's why I I I mean, I work with kids as well, but I love
Vikki:to work
Natalia Jansen:with the adults because if we the adults learn to self regulate and star in their story. They, you know, own their star power and show up in the world knowing who they are. Mhmm. That was loving all the parts of them and accepting that every day we are growing and changing and that the person that I was yesterday, I'm not today. I am so much better today.
Natalia Jansen:And that every day, I am getting better and better. And when we stay in that open space and allow things to just pass through all the experiences and know that they hold value, they hold learning, they hold opportunities for us, We model that model that for the kids. So imagine how powerful our next generation is gonna be.
Vikki:Yes. Absolutely. Oh my gosh. This has been so much fun. You're amazing.
Vikki:You're absolutely amazing. So as we wrap this up, when is your next how how can someone get in touch with you? Say they wanna be part of your master class. I know we'll have it in the show notes, but what's the best way
Natalia Jansen:The easiest way is go to the website. Go to starringinyourlife.com. And in the store, you will find a link to purchase the master you know, the master class. Right. You can sign up for inspiring videos to get them weekly in your mailbox.
Natalia Jansen:You can also simply book a complimentary free rewrite your script consultation. Is my gift. I love it. Like to take advantage of the gift, all you have to do is go to starringinyourlife.com and write in the home page and watch the video that tells you about my business and what I do. And right on the side, you will have an opportunity to sign up for a free consultation.
Vikki:I love that. Thank you for offering that to our listeners and any of their friends. I I love that so much. I'm I'm gonna take you up on it too. You can find me on starringinyourlife.com.
Vikki:I'll be typing away. But thank you so much, Natalia. I have loved getting to know you better, more about you in-depth, and what you bring to this world, and it is pure light. It really is. I just I love you so much.
Vikki:This has been such a pleasure, and I can't wait to see you at upcoming events all over.
Natalia Jansen:I have one more thing I'd like to mention. Yes. Yes. If anybody is local in, you know, South Bay Area around Los Angeles, you know, Gardena, Lawndale, Hawthorne, Redonda Beach, I'm hosting a workshop at my friend's baby vibe studios, her sound healing studios. And this one is a very special workshop.
Natalia Jansen:The donations are going to support a greater me project in Los Angeles, which is an educational program for foster youth and and and veterans through the Vedic Vibes Foundation. So if you'd like to experience a workshop working with me and put you know, support a good cause because 100% of the donations go to the cause, you can join us on July 20. It's a Sunday.
Vikki:Like Great. Love that. Love that. Yes. So check all that out.
Vikki:And you know what? I'll make sure to get that put in the show notes too, Natalia, before we publish this. So we hope you've had so much fun today. If you did, you love our community. Please like and subscribe.
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