The Few Will Hunt Show

Motivation doesn’t exist. But SELF-motivation? That's the key to success. In this episode, Joey and Drew talk about the 5 sources of self-motivation: Decide, Plan, Try, Execute, and Achieve. These steps help you stay focused and on track, avoiding the common mistakes that cause most people to give up on their dreams. They talk about the importance of making a decision, planning effectively, taking action, and achieving small milestones to stay on track. Tune in and find out how to transform your mindset and be self-motivated to achieve your goals. 

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Creators & Guests

Host
Drew Beech
Drew Beech is an entrepreneur and cofounder of Few Will Hunt. He spent several years in the sales and marketing industry, grossing over several million dollars in sales. But his love for the entrepreneurial journey and desire to escape the rate race started with his personal training business in college. Today, Drew leads the Few Will Hunt community alongside his cousin and cofounder, Joey in their mission to restore the dignity of hard work through the highest-quality American-made apparel.
Host
Joey Bowen
Joey Bowen is co-founder of Few Will Hunt.

What is The Few Will Hunt Show?

The official podcast of Few Will Hunt, the world’s largest community of hard workers and 100% Made in the USA apparel brand. We’re on a mission to restore the dignity of hard work and help others live The Rules of The Few to strengthen ourselves and strengthen society. No entitlement or excuses are allowed here.

Joey Bowen:

You're gonna be misunderstood. People are gonna criticize you. They're gonna laugh. They're not gonna believe in in what you're trying to do, but we have a place for

Drew Beech:

you here. Yep. Welcome to the Few Will Show.

Joey Bowen:

What's going on, Eagles? I'm Joey, and this is the fuel hunt show. On this show, we talk about how to be 1 of the few so we can strengthen ourselves and strengthen society. Do you agree with that? I'm here with Drew.

Joey Bowen:

Joined by Drew

Drew Beech:

here. I agree.

Joey Bowen:

Cousin and cofounder.

Drew Beech:

I was while you were saying that, I was thinking about what I was gonna say when you asked me how I was feeling. Yep. And I was trying to think of, like, a big creative word, but I should come prepared

Joey Bowen:

next time. I switched it up today. Keep your attitude.

Drew Beech:

You really threw me off.

Joey Bowen:

You're Speaking of switching it up today, do you notice anything about me?

Drew Beech:

You're wearing white.

Joey Bowen:

I am.

Drew Beech:

It's also throwing me out. Like, so you throw you throw me 2 curve balls.

Joey Bowen:

Well, I'm gonna keep throwing them, man. I'm gonna keep throwing them. Yeah. So today, I put a white because I figure it's summer. We had cut the AC off at a q at HQ so that we can, record.

Joey Bowen:

I figure, you know, the black hoodie just isn't gonna do it. And last time I wore a white hoodie you remember when I wear that white hoodie on 1 of the previous shows? And I basically, I look like a ghost. Mhmm. Like, I just faded into the hoodie.

Drew Beech:

More dated.

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. Well, III have been spending a lot of time at the beach.

Drew Beech:

I love that for you.

Joey Bowen:

Not not the beach that everybody is probably thinking. HQ Beach.

Drew Beech:

Kensington Beach.

Joey Bowen:

Kensi well, not Kensington Beach either. For those listening, don't know what Kensington Beach is. HQ Beach is the rooftop of fuel on HQ. So I have been spending at least 15 to 20 minutes a day up there, so I felt confident enough to wear white today. So I

Drew Beech:

look like Casper. You are getting too cold. Color.

Joey Bowen:

Right? I look a little bit

Drew Beech:

As the summer goes on, I spend a lot of time in the sun, so I get, like, super dark. So you might have to Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

I'm gonna have to catch up.

Drew Beech:

The contrast will be bad.

Joey Bowen:

I'm gonna have to catch up. If I so my like, I have, like, farmer's tan, so my face and my arms are, you know, browning. If I took my shirt off, I look like a lobster. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Joey Bowen:

But at that, I'll work into it. I didn't get my mother's Sicilian jeans. I did not get those jeans. That's that's for sure. Did not get those jeans.

Drew Beech:

For sure.

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. So I'll do my best not to look like Casper, man.

Joey Bowen:

Well, we got a a banger of a show here today. We're gonna talk about the 5 sources of self motivation. That's what I wanna talk about today. We got Dane here. We got Cara here.

Joey Bowen:

We got Luna here. We also have some guests coming in later today. For the Eagles listening and watching that don't know, we film multiple episodes of the Fuel Hunt Show in 1 day because we are real people, real business owners that have a real business to run, and we can't just podcast 7 days a week. So, we condense it all into 1 day. And, we got some guests coming in today.

Joey Bowen:

I'm really excited about. Let's Yeah. So good a good day, all around. We got a timer now so I can stay on track. We'll see if it works, Dane.

Joey Bowen:

I don't know.

Drew Beech:

Does it?

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. I mean, it works, but does it work to keep me in line? I don't know. We'll see.

Drew Beech:

I mean, there's no avoiding it at this point. Like, before we would just go for hours over hours, and then Dane would be yelling at us, throwing signs up. Yeah. Yeah. I feel you would just ignore them.

Joey Bowen:

I I pretty much would. I pretty much would ignore them.

Drew Beech:

But now it's smacking us in the face.

Joey Bowen:

It is. And it's red letters. It's ticking. It almost looks like a bomb, dude. Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

If you think about it.

Drew Beech:

Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

So reverse reverse count for a bomb. So we'll see what happens when it gets 20 minutes, 40 minutes. Yeah. Maybe there'll be some surprises. Confetti will shoot out.

Joey Bowen:

Who knows? I don't know what's gonna happen. But, so let me give you a little background on why I wanna talk about self motivation and its 5 sources today. You'll notice that I'm putting a word in front of motivation, self. Because personally, I believe motivation doesn't exist.

Joey Bowen:

And this isn't 1 of those conversations where it's, motivation doesn't exist, discipline, da da da. It's not that hard o Internet BS. This is a conversation about self motivation and its sources so that our community, instead of screen sucking YouTube videos of Goggins all day to get pumped up to do what they need to do, they have a tactical plan to channel their own self motivation, to build the lives that they dream of for themselves and their families. That's where I'm at.

Drew Beech:

Realistically, you mentioned Goggin to Instagram. Like

Joey Bowen:

I love I love Goggin. But you you know what I mean? Like, his his whole thing is he's like, stay hard. He's not saying think hard. You know what I mean?

Joey Bowen:

He says, and in order to stay hard, you got to be hard, which means you have to do hard things.

Drew Beech:

Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

Joey Bowen:

So everybody uses his tools that he provides.

Drew Beech:

Instagram and and social media are a dangerous place nowadays and give people a even a a false sense of motivation because a lot of these individuals consuming and screen sucking and frying their dopamine receptors Mhmm. Will very rarely ever go out and do the work necessary or any work similar to that of what which Goggins does.

Joey Bowen:

Yep. I mean, that's why that's why I feel so grateful, and I'm sure you do too, to be surrounded by the few. Because there are very few in the few that have that type of behavior that that will screen suck the motivation and do nothing about it. And, you know, everybody has highs and lows, and I think sometimes, you know, you need to maybe watch a video like that just to kick start yourself or whatever. So I'm not judging, those that do it every once in a while to be inspired, which we will get into.

Joey Bowen:

I am, you know, throwing down, the hammer on those that are doing it day in and day out and making no progress. You know what I mean? Just consumption.

Drew Beech:

And I don't even know if, it's, like, low points that highs or lows that you need to watch those videos. Like, I got Parker watching the it was on Gary the boat. So, like, he's literally comes up. Like, I I have a couple on YouTube. We put it on the screen.

Drew Beech:

Like, I just sit in there, like, consuming it. Like, I love it.

Joey Bowen:

I love it. Yeah. I mean, you know, when you when you think about it, right, it's like, of the things that he could be consuming, that's valuable for him to consume because he's using it as it should be used to inspire himself and say, like, there's people out there that are doing hard things.

Drew Beech:

Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

Right? That I can do too. Not let me watch 7 of these videos on repeat

Drew Beech:

Exactly.

Joey Bowen:

To muster up the motivation to do what I need to do for the day.

Drew Beech:

It's almost depend it almost depends where you're at on your journey too. Like, Parker where Parker is on his journey is a an 8 year old is a lot different than a 30 year old that needs to just get off the couch. But for me, when in my weight loss journey, the, 1 of those videos actually did get me going or get me moving. And it was a ET, the hip hop preacher.

Joey Bowen:

Yeah.

Drew Beech:

Yeah. And you wanna succeed as bad as you wanna breathe. Yep. You know that 1? Mhmm.

Drew Beech:

That 1 literally changed my life.

Joey Bowen:

And it changed your life because after you watched it, you were inspired and it took action. Exactly. Right? So what we're going after here is when you talk about the journey, we want to talk about tactically how you can go on that journey. At least that's my thinking for this for this show, for this episode.

Drew Beech:

Yes. And then you shouldn't need to resort to them Yeah. After that. Like, you watch that video 1 time or a couple of times Yep. And then the work starts getting done.

Joey Bowen:

Yep. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. III am a firm believer in motivation doesn't exist.

Joey Bowen:

Only self motivation exists. My nan, my grandmom told me a quote, and I attribute it to her, but somebody else probably said it. I don't know. When I was probably, man, I was on Kensington Ave. I was probably 8 years old.

Joey Bowen:

7 or 8. And she said, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. Right?

Drew Beech:

I don't think that's your grandma's original quote. No. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, bro.

Drew Beech:

I think that is that what goes back to

Joey Bowen:

Alright. Well, let for purposes for purposes of the show, since we don't really know

Drew Beech:

Well, credit to your name.

Joey Bowen:

Credit to your credit to Nan Kershaw, man. Well, credit to Nan Kershaw. She you know, she said that to me, and I was like, man, that makes a lot of sense. Like, you know, nobody can come come around and force you to act. No.

Joey Bowen:

You know what I mean? Only you can make the choice to act and move yourself to action.

Drew Beech:

Yeah. It's and you can't save everybody either. Like like you said, can't make them drink. Like, you can the real multiple The horses that want to drink will proactively find the water themselves with you. They'll ask you Yeah.

Drew Beech:

They'll ask you, hey, can you tell me where the water is? Mhmm. Mhmm.

Joey Bowen:

I know

Drew Beech:

I said water, which I mean, I just don't know if I could ever say water.

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. No. I don't even know what that word I don't even know what that word is.

Drew Beech:

Just like changing your

Joey Bowen:

No. I couldn't.

Drew Beech:

Your linguistics to start saying water?

Joey Bowen:

I'll never do that. But I do I do try to enunciate garble the powerful messages because sometimes, like, my accent doesn't garble the powerful messages because sometimes I'm talking to people and they're like they're like, what's it? Wait. What did you say?

Drew Beech:

I literally, like, as I said, water, I was like, thousands of people are gonna listen to this and be like, what the hell did he just say?

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Quote still remains the same. Right?

Joey Bowen:

Like, I believe that only self motivation exists because only self can move to action. Right? Nobody else can move you to action, especially not in long term. Like, somebody can force you to do something, but that's not sustainable.

Drew Beech:

And no one's gonna do the work for you either. It's I've Mhmm. I struggle with it so many times in my weight loss journey is people would try like, I was a big, big kid, like, in high school in my later, elementary school years, but so many people tried to my uncle Sean tried to get me to jump. Like, he would to have me come stay with him for a weekend, had me working out for a whole weekend, eating right for a whole weekend. It's nothing ever stuck.

Joey Bowen:

Not cousin Sean.

Drew Beech:

No. No. No. I was gonna say Sean on my my mom's side.

Joey Bowen:

Okay. I gotcha. I gotcha. No. No.

Joey Bowen:

I was gonna say, cousin Sean, he bring you new to his house where we get a jump rope

Drew Beech:

too. Yeah. But, like, he would he gave me this jumper up. It was like a big thing. I, like, did it for a week.

Drew Beech:

But realistically, you have to to flip the switch as b says, Bader says, and start holding yourself accountable and doing the work yourself.

Joey Bowen:

Yep. I agree. I agree. So this episode is about the the tactical ways on your journey that you can motivate self, really, is what what it what it comes down to. The anti strategy to screen sucking motivation from the Internet, doom scrolling, death scrolling, whatever you wanna call it.

Joey Bowen:

So let's let's jump in. I believe that there are 5 sources of self motivation. Alright? Hit the first 1 right out the gate. We'll run through them, then we'll chain back through them.

Drew Beech:

Yeah. So

Joey Bowen:

First 1. And you know I'm a planner, so this is probably gonna surprise you. The first source is deciding, making the decision. Right? That whatever it is you wanna do, that you're trying to motivate yourself to do, weight loss journey, building a business, career promotion, starting a family.

Joey Bowen:

What else you got? Buying your dream home, getting out of debt, buying your first car. I don't know. Pick it. Pick it whatever it is.

Joey Bowen:

Tracking a great mate. You know what I mean? Partner.

Drew Beech:

Mate.

Joey Bowen:

You know what I mean? Whatever. The first step is deciding. And during this step, during this source, the how of how you're going to do it is none of your business. None of your business.

Joey Bowen:

You need to just decide

Drew Beech:

Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

That you're going to do the thing or you're gonna die no matter what. Similar to what we did.

Drew Beech:

Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

We had that moment where we were like, look. We're gonna do this. We're gonna build this community, and then later, we're gonna build this business, or we're simply gonna die trying. Like, that's just how it's it's 1 or the other. You know what I mean?

Drew Beech:

Yep. Gotta put the switch.

Joey Bowen:

Yep. I feel like everybody gets so concerned about and we'll get to the how. Right? Everybody gets so concerned about the how in the beginning that they forget to commit.

Drew Beech:

Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

So then as soon as things get hard, which they get hard right away

Drew Beech:

Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

They quit because they're not fully committed. They haven't decided.

Drew Beech:

Usually, to make that decision, there has to be an unfortunate this unfortunate situation not situation, but unfortunate

Joey Bowen:

Circumstance.

Drew Beech:

Yeah. Circumstance or thing that, that usually that's a catalyst that causes you to make that decision. Like you've had enough, you've had enough at your job. You're so fed up or your boss yelled at you or you got fired or got a pay cut. You got, in my case of my weight loss journey, I got broken up with by a girlfriend or you got made fun of so bad or beat up by bullies before you started jujitsu.

Drew Beech:

Like, there's typically a lot of times a a reason

Joey Bowen:

Mhmm.

Drew Beech:

Why that decision is made. So either it gets to that point or you you decide before it does.

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. I I think that's 1 of the the struggles in society nowadays that we've had good times for so long that, there aren't many catalysts, especially for, like, young people because it's convenient, it's comfortable, everything's easy. You know what I mean? Like, I had self worth issues growing up. Like, that's why I turned into such a hard worker because I was like, oh, shit.

Joey Bowen:

Like, I was like, I can go out and I can work hard and I can be recognized. Like, my worth will be recognized based on what I create. So that that triggered something in me where I was like, okay.

Drew Beech:

Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

You know? Now I have that catalyst to decide that I want to start a business, get in shape, you know, whatever it is. But nowadays, like, everything is so comfortable and convenient that a lot of those catalysts don't exist. And like you said, social media is a dangerous place. People are going there and finding purposes that aren't really their own.

Joey Bowen:

Yep. You know? And that's a big problem. Yep. Because then you're you're working you're working toward a goal and a dream that you don't even want.

Joey Bowen:

How many how many stories you hear about somebody that that quote, unquote makes it. Right? They build something of value that brings value into their lives, and they have cars, money, homes, all those shit, and they're hollow and empty inside.

Drew Beech:

It's really sure

Joey Bowen:

is you

Drew Beech:

hear like that? A lot. Right? A lot. But it's very problematic because even in the entrepreneurial space, right, you see all these entrepreneurs on Instagram that have cars and and houses and vacations and freedom.

Drew Beech:

But realistically, the reality of entrepreneur and I speak on I speak on entrepreneurship, in this specific instance, but it applies to everything. Yep. You see all those cars and and clothes and vacations and houses, but you don't see the exorbitant amount of time in the dark. They spent working and working and working without knowing if they were gonna make payroll or gonna get paid or gonna have a paycheck or if it was all ever gonna work out. And the problem is the social media only shows us the the good sides of things.

Drew Beech:

So like you see a jacked fitness model, but you don't see the fact that he eats only chicken and rice for every meal.

Joey Bowen:

Mhmm. And he's been doing so for

Drew Beech:

x amount of years. Yeah. You know

Joey Bowen:

what I mean? And he says no to going out with the homies and going to the Yeah. Baseball games and, you know, like, chugging beers and eating soft pretzels and shit like that. Like, you you don't see all that.

Drew Beech:

Yeah. I think there is starting to become, like, a shift And it's just in social media society. Like, we're almost, it seems, like, more interested in the shitty parts of things.

Joey Bowen:

And and we do have, you know, we we do have those that are very vocal about the hard, like Goggins, for example, to thank for that. Yeah. You know? Because what we're doing is we're we're beginning to glorify what should be glorified, what will unlock purpose and passion in your life. You know what I mean?

Joey Bowen:

Those those hard things.

Drew Beech:

We are demonizing social media a little bit, but, and motivation type things on social media. But 1 thing that it does for me and and the our our OG posts every day

Joey Bowen:

Mhmm.

Drew Beech:

Are and this is what I believe they should be used for, are powerful reminders that

Joey Bowen:

Yes.

Drew Beech:

Are on your mind and in my mind that are we are relaying to the community. And that's what I even when I read books written by other entrepreneurs or or probably, like, Can't Hurt Me was a great book to remind me that to not be a little bitch. Yep. You know what I mean?

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. I'm so glad you brought that up because I I skipped over that in the beginning. I did wanna mention that we since the very beginning, we get a lot of messages that say, like, hey. You know, the team at HQ, what you guys are doing, you motivate me. And that never sat right with us from the very beginning.

Joey Bowen:

Like, it's impossible for us to motivate you. The only person that can motivate you is you. Mhmm. What we're here to do, the way I look at it is are 2 things, educate and inspire. So those OG posts, like we call them, the content only post every morning that we've been posting for 7 years.

Joey Bowen:

Mhmm. Every morning. 7 years straight. Could you imagine posting every morning for 7 years straight?

Drew Beech:

That is I'm

Joey Bowen:

asking the Eagles on the

Drew Beech:

game. You're you're literally, like, kinda, like, mind fucking me right now because I when you think of that, that's and

Joey Bowen:

it's insane. Yeah. Yeah. It's insane.

Drew Beech:

Aspen everyday.

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. Insane. And, just hit the mic. Insane in air quotes.

Drew Beech:

Yeah. You know what

Joey Bowen:

I mean? Insane.

Drew Beech:

We've never

Joey Bowen:

missed it. Work.

Drew Beech:

We've never missed it.

Joey Bowen:

Who do

Drew Beech:

you think you are? Christmas No. Weekends. No. It's just never

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. Exactly.

Drew Beech:

It's not and and that's when I think obviously, when you get to a certain point of work and being a hard worker

Joey Bowen:

Mhmm.

Drew Beech:

It's not even a question. Like, we don't think, are we gonna post today? It's Yeah. We just know that it's

Joey Bowen:

But those posts are meant to they're not meant to motivate. They're meant to to educate and inspire. Inspire, you meaning? Dude, we're just 2 regular kids from Philly. That's it.

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. Right? The team, our team here, amazing people, but they're also just regular people. None of us none of us have any silver spoons. None of us.

Joey Bowen:

Right? So we're like, if we can do it, damn sure you can do it. Right? That's the inspiration piece. The education piece is, like, I I just posted, last night about our episode with Kenny.

Joey Bowen:

The the road map to building, right, what you want is is right there in those posts. Yeah. It's on the back of our teas, and it's in those posts. If you want the tactical stuff, you can join Fuel Hunt Rise, and we'll get on the phone, and we'll talk through your specific case. But the overarching concepts that you need to embrace, the rules of the few, they're those posts.

Joey Bowen:

Yep. You

Drew Beech:

know? I I might wanna add 1 more to that educate and inspire. It's, like, always always been our thing. We could say include too to let you know that you're not alone.

Joey Bowen:

Yep. Yep. There's a popular framework, you know, for providing value to somebody nowadays, educate, inspire, entertain. Mhmm. We don't do much entertaining, and we've talked about this.

Joey Bowen:

Like, you know, maybe if we injected some humor into things every once in a while, the community may may enjoy it.

Drew Beech:

I think our form of entertainment is when Nicky Rod, collab on his on his face because he's fucking funny.

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. Yeah, baby. Maybe. But I I do like that, that word, include because and, you know, it's crazy. I was just having this.

Joey Bowen:

I won't get into why I was having it, but I was having this conversation today with my dad about, like, reserving space for people. And I ain't talking about this whole, like, you know, the way society paints it nowadays and all that b s. Letting somebody know reserving space for them and letting somebody know, like, we get you. We are you. We're going through what you're going through, and we're here to serve you and help you and provide value on the journey.

Joey Bowen:

But guess what we're doing right here? 5 sources of self motivation. Why are we doing this?

Drew Beech:

Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

Right? We're we're to pour into our community and our people and say, like, hey. Look. There here's a structure that you can follow for success.

Drew Beech:

And it's back to what you were saying about how we're real business owners with real shit to do. Yep. We don't make money off of this podcast. Like, they're like, that's why we have to do it once a month because there's a it's a negative impact on our business. Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

It's it's a it's a positive impact on the community of dollars and cents. Like, we don't have sponsors. We don't

Drew Beech:

have positive on the community, negative on the business.

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. On the balance sheet. Yeah. The balance sheet. Yep.

Joey Bowen:

Yep. We we took a couple tangents here with so much value in it, but that first source of self motivation is deciding. And like I said, I just wanna underscore it, and I'm not the 1st to say it. I think legendary Les Brown you know who Les Brown is? Dude's a legend.

Joey Bowen:

Legendary Les Brown, He I believe it was him that said it first or 1 of his mentors. The how is none of your business in the beginning. Mhmm. It is none of it. Your business is committing.

Joey Bowen:

I'm gonna do this or I'm gonna die. That I can't think of many other self motivating Yeah. Statements, you know, outside of that.

Drew Beech:

I agree.

Joey Bowen:

So that's a first source of self motivation. I spent a lot of time on it. It's the first step Yeah. And it's an important 1, so fitting. 2nd step, step or a source, source that, I particularly love because I'm a planner.

Joey Bowen:

Plan. Plan. Right? So let's back up. You've decided you know, I like, you know, I like Rome.

Joey Bowen:

I'm a fan of Rome. So let's use the the build of Rome analogy. You've decided you're gonna build Rome. Rome is whatever. It is your family.

Joey Bowen:

It is your business. It is your physique. It is whatever. You've decided now you're gonna build Rome. Now you need a a plan.

Joey Bowen:

Right? People get tripped up here because they want the perfect plan or they want a Gantt chart or they want something that right? It's gotta be perfect. Like, wait a second. They get to the 3rd part of the plan, and they're like, oh, I don't even know how to do this.

Joey Bowen:

Stop. Dead stop. You know? Think about building Rome. At this step, keep it simple.

Joey Bowen:

All you wanna do is make a list of all the tools you need. That's it. You don't know how to use a hammer? Well, figure that out later. You need a hammer.

Joey Bowen:

Like, keep it simple. Build an imperfect plan for progress, which is also, newsflash, imperfect. Always. No such thing as perfect progress. So the the planning step is is obviously near and dear to my heart because, I'm a planner.

Joey Bowen:

We didn't let's talk about our plan for fuel hunt in the beginning. Our plan was as simple as this. Every day, you will do 1 thing that grows the community. Every day, I will do 1 thing that grows the community. That's it.

Joey Bowen:

That's how it was in 2017. Right? Yeah. Both fully employed, and we said, at night. And we agreed it on the phone.

Joey Bowen:

On the so we'd leave our day jobs, get in the truck, get on the phone immediately. Remember? Mhmm. We would talk for the hour commute home, and we would both decide. This is 1 thing you're gonna do.

Joey Bowen:

This is 1 thing I wanna do. Mhmm. Write a post. Post the post. Mhmm.

Joey Bowen:

Reach out to this person. Talk to that person.

Drew Beech:

I think even I mean, I relay everything in my mind to business and fitness just because that's what I'm so familiar with. But it is almost insane to me that people, and nowadays social media is literally free marketing for you. Like free advertising. Like you can attract an audience, build an audience and literally pay $0 to do so. It isn't saying to me that people say they want to start a business, but they are not posting high value information or high value posts on social media every day.

Drew Beech:

And the thing people lack even when they do post every day is intention and effort. Mhmm.

Joey Bowen:

But

Drew Beech:

that's a whole other I was going off on a tangent there. But the fact that people aren't doing this simplest of work to grow their business is almost insane.

Joey Bowen:

I mean, a lot of when you look at look. We're the few for a reason. When you look at social media, I feel like we're really shitting on social media. Yeah. You know, look.

Joey Bowen:

World's positive and negative. Maybe there's a little bit more of a negative space.

Drew Beech:

Nothing without social media. Exactly. So that's Yeah. Yeah. We should

Joey Bowen:

Let's let's clarify. Yeah. Let's clarify. Right? Let's clarify.

Joey Bowen:

But, there are a lot of people on social media that talk about doing the work. Right? But the work the work ain't getting done. Yeah. The work ain't getting done.

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. You know? And it provides a forum for you mentioned mentioned dopamine receptors earlier. I love that you're taking you know, going for the science behind it. But, you know, it it provides a forum where you can get a quick hit with quick work, and quick work doesn't get the job done.

Joey Bowen:

You know what I mean? So the long hard work does.

Drew Beech:

Oh, yeah.

Joey Bowen:

You know? So, my point about the plan was, like, our plan I believe in my heart, and we are far from done, but I believe in my heart, we've built something great here together as a team. Mhmm. We've built something of value, and I know for a fact we've built something that has changed people's lives for the better.

Drew Beech:

Yep.

Joey Bowen:

And we did that with a simple plan in the beginning. You do 1 thing. I do 1 thing at night. That's it. Make sure it provides value.

Joey Bowen:

Do it with intention. Boom.

Drew Beech:

It it really goes back to the not to give my mom too many shout outs or too much credit, but the eat chicken and run thing I

Joey Bowen:

Give her credit.

Drew Beech:

Go on. The 1 thing we I we always talk about the eat chicken and rum

Joey Bowen:

It's the same thing.

Drew Beech:

It was when I say that to people, they they love they love that expression.

Joey Bowen:

Mhmm.

Drew Beech:

I'm like I don't give my mom too much. They're too gassed up, but, she has told me when I wanna lose weight to eat chicken and run, and that was in hindsight. It was such great advice. You would think that I would need a mom to write me out. Nowadays, people wanna be written out the meal plan.

Drew Beech:

Uh-huh. They want the perfect workout when all you have to do is eat less than you consume and do a few and get your heart rate up. That's literally as basic as it gets.

Joey Bowen:

That's what, you know, I sometimes talk to people about, like, macros and Yeah. That, you know, not because I'm anywhere near a professional, but they have questions like what I do and how I eat. I tell them all, like, macros and, dude, it's so funny. Immediately, I get hit with, like, 15 excuses why they can't do it. And I'm like, look.

Joey Bowen:

Just you're on let's keep the demonization of social media going. You're on Instagram for 4 fucking hours a day. Instead of that, open up MyFitnessPal and just scan everything that you're eating. Yeah. Talk to a professional that can get you your baseline, or just start scanning everything you're eating, track, and then talk to a professional and say, here's what I've been eating for the past 7 days.

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. They'll help you out with your baseline and eat in a deficit, and they get your heart rate up.

Drew Beech:

It's, people think I'm crazy. I still check my macros every day.

Joey Bowen:

So up to you.

Drew Beech:

Like, I'm not even on some any specific goal or anything. I just like to always know, and I I did I bowled a little too a little too hard, so now I'm working back. But,

Joey Bowen:

What, what's measured improves?

Drew Beech:

Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

And that that's the funny thing about improvement. Like, you don't need you don't know that you need to improve until you know you need to improve. Right? So I like to measure. So when I get to that, and I'm like, man, like, I'm dragging on the mats or whatever.

Joey Bowen:

And I say, okay. I gotta make a change. Then I got all the data already. Yeah. You know?

Joey Bowen:

I'm not starting at day 1. Like, oh, well, now I wanna start tracking. So I do the same thing.

Drew Beech:

Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

Now I do I do the same thing. It's so easy.

Drew Beech:

Yeah. I agree.

Joey Bowen:

It's easy. The hardest work

Drew Beech:

I think it's easy for you and I

Joey Bowen:

Yes.

Drew Beech:

Being the kind of people we are that we look at that as, like, a such a simple We're thing to do, but not everyone

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. I mean, but, you know, we've inherently, it wasn't easy for us. Yeah. I mean, you lost how how much weight it was? A 100 and what?

Joey Bowen:

A 100

Drew Beech:

and Over a 100.

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. Over £100.

Drew Beech:

At 1 point, it was a 120. Yeah. So

Joey Bowen:

it wasn't easy for you then, but with consistency, it's become easy. Now you've taken a harder challenge. Now you're an entrepreneur.

Drew Beech:

Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

Now you're an entrepreneur. Alright. We're let's keep let's keep cruising through these sources of motivation. Plan pretty pretty straight up. You know what I mean?

Joey Bowen:

You need an m I can't I can't underscore it enough. You need an imperfect plan for imperfect progress. That's what I tell myself.

Drew Beech:

Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

When we're doing something new, whether it's community focused or clothing focused, I'm like, okay. I always remind myself, imperfect plan for imperfect progress. There's no perfect plan. There's no perfect progress. Even if you had a perfect plan, it wouldn't create perfect progress.

Joey Bowen:

You know? Keep it and keep it simple. Keep it simple out out the gate, dude. Just like I said, if you're gonna you're gonna build Rome, let's make a list of your tools that you need. You know?

Joey Bowen:

Don't worry about exactly, you know, how you're gonna do the plumbing in this 1 building in Rome.

Drew Beech:

Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

Just just like the tools and, like, rough map of the buildings, dude. Like and we're good to go.

Drew Beech:

Yeah. And that's back to my my parents are always asking about health things and, like, ingredients.

Joey Bowen:

Mhmm. And

Drew Beech:

I'm like, you guys are jumping ahead. You're not even do you guys gotta do the base. You gotta eat less than you consume. Right? Like

Joey Bowen:

When I when I started working with Battle Ready, which was, which is now the Agogy, you know, Nate had a he was 1 of my coaches with Byron, had, like, a great point. You know, some guys in the group, and rightfully so, they're, like, they're they're hungry. They're go getters. They're go getters. And they're asking him about, like, meal timing, like nutrient timing and meal timing and stuff.

Joey Bowen:

And he was like, look. He's like, guys, like, we're gonna get there. He's like, but what you need to worry about right now is just hitting your caloric, like, your number of calories. Like, let's just worry about that Exactly. Before we get into the more complex nitty gritty, like, keep the plan simple.

Joey Bowen:

It's imperfect. It will create progress, though. You know?

Drew Beech:

It's the truth.

Joey Bowen:

It's the truth. So now you got this plan. Okay? And you're starting to feel self motivated. Right?

Joey Bowen:

You've decided you're gonna do this or die. You've made a plan. You've gathered your list of tools. The plan's imperfect, but you're comfortable with that. Comfortable in a good way.

Joey Bowen:

You're comfortable being uncomfortable. What's the next source or the next step? The word is start, but, I'm gonna use a different word Mhmm. Because I feel like start is a I can't even believe I'm, like, saying this, but start is like a loaded word nowadays. So I'm just gonna use the word try instead.

Joey Bowen:

Try your plan. The 1 or 2 things on your plan. Just try them. Don't make this big deal about having to start. Today, I I wanna start my diet.

Joey Bowen:

I'm gonna Yeah. No. No. No. No.

Joey Bowen:

No.

Drew Beech:

Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

Just try. Try. All achievement starts with trying. I tell my girls that all the time. Everything.

Joey Bowen:

No matter what you wanna do. You wanna get up there. Everly just finished her softball season. Season didn't work out the way we wanted, but she improved as a player. I told her, just go out and try.

Joey Bowen:

That's all you need to do, and it's not everybody, oh, you're setting a bar low. No. No. No. Setting a bar where the bar needs to be to start.

Joey Bowen:

Try. I feel like this is 1 of

Drew Beech:

get it. Everly over the house for some softballs lessons with the manager.

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. She's swinging. She's swinging like Joe DiMaggio now. Yeah. Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. Yeah.

Drew Beech:

We got a a man I'll just get her on some travel teams and then Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. Time will come. Jujitsu first. But the time will the time will come. So I'm gonna use the word try.

Joey Bowen:

I feel like it's a little bit of a cop out. I feel like it's like saying, what was that thing you said to me the other day that I I went off and, like, I went off the handle unalive.

Drew Beech:

Oh my god.

Joey Bowen:

Unalive for the Eagles listening and watching. Drew was like, oh, you like, you know, you're gonna make this person on alive, and you said it, like, tongue in cheek. Yeah. And I didn't get it. I was like, what do you mean on alive?

Joey Bowen:

And you're like, oh, well, you know, supposedly now you can't say kill anymore. I was like, oh, well, we're screwed. Well, it's yeah.

Drew Beech:

On on Instagram, it blocks it on Instagram. You can't say die or or kill, I think.

Joey Bowen:

This is why 1. To the Eagles. This is why it's so important for you to join us in spreading our mission and movement because this social media thing, like, they're coming for us. We can't say die growing anymore. We can't say hunt and kill.

Joey Bowen:

Like, what's up? Uh-huh. You know?

Drew Beech:

I do have 1 rebuttal to the try Let's

Joey Bowen:

do it.

Drew Beech:

To the try thing.

Joey Bowen:

Let's do it.

Drew Beech:

1 thing I tell my son all the time

Joey Bowen:

Mhmm.

Drew Beech:

Is trying is not doing. So what say you to that rebuttal? Because they could, in my opinion, should be go do.

Joey Bowen:

I think we could if I was if I was on a coaching call with 1 of our Rise Eagles, I don't know if I would say just try. I'd say that to my daughters. They're 7 and 4. Right? Because you have to you have to you gotta know the room.

Joey Bowen:

Right? Yeah. And you you've gotta bend your language as a powerful tool, so you have to speak in their language in order for them to translate it into action. I agree with you a 1000%. Like, it's like anything.

Joey Bowen:

Like, it's like anything. Oh, I did work today. Well, did you really do work?

Drew Beech:

Shuffle papers all day. That

Joey Bowen:

was more

Drew Beech:

of ROGs back in the day that you wrote up. Yeah. Yeah. Like Don't don't shuffle papers all day.

Joey Bowen:

It's like you did work. You did work, but you were running on a hamster wheel. Like, there's no forward progress. So that's a very good point. I think maybe now with the girls, with Everly and Cecilia, maybe I'll say, like, try hard.

Joey Bowen:

You know? In all fairness, I do say, this season, I started using the word aggressive with, Everly, which I've never really like, I've used the word. It's not like a dirty word or anything. But I've used it specifically with her when she was on the field or going out to the field or going into the batter's box. I'm like aggressive, aggressive.

Joey Bowen:

And it helped her, like, lock in. Mhmm. So maybe I would say, like, you know, try hard or, you know, try be aggressive, like, something like that. Like, I would tailor it a little bit differently. But, your rebuttal is, is going to actually make me make me better.

Joey Bowen:

You know? Maybe I can consolidate the language.

Drew Beech:

That's what I'm here for.

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. And you do a good job. The maybe I can consolidate the language a little bit to give it a little more punch.

Drew Beech:

Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. So, what else about starting? Starting is something people never do.

Drew Beech:

No. Exactly. That's

Joey Bowen:

true. I think that, what happens there is a lot of a lot of the times people get and that's why I made such, like, a big deal about and I almost said the f word. I I know I've cursed a couple times during this. Yeah. So I owe 3 I owed $60 in the f it bucket, which is cat.

Joey Bowen:

I mean, there's there's, as Brianna would say, schmoney. There's schmoney in here. There's So I have 60, but, I think people fail to start a try because they get so fixated on a perfect plan. Also Or they've decided that they're gonna die trying.

Drew Beech:

I also posted this on on Instagram a couple of weeks ago probably, but fear of failure kills more dreams than failure ever will.

Joey Bowen:

Yep. I agree.

Drew Beech:

And people are more concerned with and it's so silly even think, but they're more con people are so concerned with what people around them in their communities, at their workplaces are gonna think of them Mhmm. For starting with more than fearing actually failing

Joey Bowen:

Mhmm.

Drew Beech:

Or or the the fear of failing and then being judged for it.

Joey Bowen:

So, man, I love this episode so far. Yeah. I I love this. So let's let's talk about something that we talked about earlier in the show about, like like, reserving space, right, for people in our community, hard workers, dream chasers, risk takers, like, reserving the space and letting them know, like, wait. There's a place for you here.

Joey Bowen:

Like, this is your home. I think, ultimately, what people are fearing is is rejection of the tribe. Like, it's primal wiring, bro. Like, when we were our ancestors, right, hunt hunters and gatherers. Right?

Joey Bowen:

You act out of protocol, not in accordance with the tribe's mentality, right, or rules or guidelines. You got ostracized from the tribe. You got rejected and kicked out of the tribe. And you know what that was? Certain death.

Drew Beech:

Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

Because you had to go out and make it on your own. And then you needed the tribe, the power of the tribe. So that's we haven't really changed much from our hunting and gathering days. We're still that primal.

Drew Beech:

Oh,

Joey Bowen:

yeah. So that's 1 of the great things about our community, about the Fuwang community. We've reserved the space and said, you're gonna be misunderstood. People are gonna criticize you. They're gonna laugh.

Joey Bowen:

They're not gonna believe in in what you're trying to do, but we have a place for you here.

Drew Beech:

Yep.

Joey Bowen:

And it's not just, like, me, you, and Karen, and Brie, and Brianna. It's it's like 250, 000 people.

Drew Beech:

Oh, yeah.

Joey Bowen:

Oh, yeah. So, like, you ain't alone. No. You know? Anything else on starting?

Joey Bowen:

I mean, it's important 1. AKA trying. No?

Drew Beech:

Doing.

Joey Bowen:

Doing. Go do. You know you know I'm a go do guy. I know. That's my thing.

Joey Bowen:

Go do. But Try is

Drew Beech:

kinda triggering me right now.

Joey Bowen:

Do, do I need to get, like, a blanket and create, like, a safe area HQ right now? I'm kidding. I'm gonna I'm gonna take that to heart. I'm gonna think about this. I'm gonna mend, the sources of self motivation.

Joey Bowen:

But, really, when I put these together and I thought about them, I was like, I don't wanna be too flowery. Like, I wanna use words that are straightforward, like, that everybody gets. You know what I mean? Decide.

Drew Beech:

Yeah. You know

Joey Bowen:

what I'm saying? Plan. Right? Start. Luna is our guard dog and making it there you go.

Joey Bowen:

Making sure that we're safe here.

Drew Beech:

Probably Kyle. Time for Kyle is a, big dog guy.

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's got good he's got good energy. There you go.

Joey Bowen:

So, let's get 4th 4th, source of, self motivation, and that is, executing. And I know that's a big word. I know I just said I tried to use words that were approachable, but executing. So you've started the plan. Now you gotta execute the plan.

Joey Bowen:

Meaning, stay at it. Meaning, be consistent. Keep going.

Drew Beech:

This goes along with the do then. This is Mhmm.

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. Because you gotta

Drew Beech:

call I jumped ahead.

Joey Bowen:

You gotta call out the start or the try. Yeah. Like, you've gotta call it out because that's where most people are faltering.

Drew Beech:

Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

So this is the execute, the stay with it no matter what. And we're gonna do a show a little later on today about the hockey stick. But talking about reserving a space for Eagles, a place for them, a nest for them, a place for them to call home, like, the execution of your plan people always say starting is the hardest part. Yes and no. Because the execution can be very, very difficult.

Joey Bowen:

It's boring. It's lonely. There's many, many parts of executing the plan that cause people to to quit. You know? Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

Do you have any wisdom that you wanna share with the community, the Eagles listening and watching when it comes to executing or sticking with the plan on a day to day basis. No.

Drew Beech:

I think I I think I wasted all my executing on the on the do on well, it's yelling at you.

Joey Bowen:

How about consistency?

Drew Beech:

Nah. It's all it's all so and I don't mean to

Joey Bowen:

I know. I guess I should've went over I

Drew Beech:

don't mean to

Joey Bowen:

5 sources with you beforehand so that you didn't.

Drew Beech:

I don't mean to sound, arrogant. But

Joey Bowen:

Please sound arrogant.

Drew Beech:

But it's so simple. The the more you try the the less you try to overcomplicate and overthink and just do, the closer you get to actually reaching your goals.

Joey Bowen:

Yep. And

Drew Beech:

that's just a 100% the truth.

Joey Bowen:

Right. Yeah. Again, it's

Drew Beech:

And simple scales and business and in life and in fitness and in health, just do the boring work every day, and you will get to where you wanna go. That's the issue is that people don't wanna do boring. Yep. And they don't wanna do the necessary work. They they're all in on on the sexy stuff.

Drew Beech:

Mhmm. But it's the the mundane, boring, unsexy stuff that actually moves the needle.

Joey Bowen:

Yes. Absolutely. It does. Absolutely. Especially the further on you get in the journey.

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. You know what I mean?

Drew Beech:

Yep. Because

Joey Bowen:

you realize what works, and you gotta do more of what works. Mhmm. And doing more of what works doesn't feel as great, doesn't feel sexy because it's not new.

Drew Beech:

Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

You know? This is, like a couple times during the during the show today, I've said step instead of source because I really look at these. They are sources of self motivation to get you going to build your own, but they're also steps in the process. When people get to that unsexy, boring part during execution, you know what they do? They quit.

Joey Bowen:

They they they quit or they step back to start

Drew Beech:

Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

And they start some new shit.

Drew Beech:

Yep.

Joey Bowen:

And you know what the worst oh, man. I'm I'm really racking up the bills today. You know what the worst part about stepping back to start and starting something new is? You skip the first 2 steps. Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

The decision and the plan. So now you're starting something new. You haven't decided you're gonna do it or die. Big red flag because that means your ass gonna quit. Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

And you have no plan. So more than likely, you're starting something that you saw some idiot on social media do. Some drop shipping freaking, you know, master, drop shipping in in 7 days to become a millionaire. You start some shit you don't even wanna do.

Drew Beech:

Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

And then and then what's what happens? Then you quit again. Then you go back to start. Yeah. Then you quit again.

Joey Bowen:

Then you go back to start. Then maybe something triggers inside of you, and you say, you know what? I need to go back to the decision. You know, who am I? What is it that I want?

Joey Bowen:

Blah blah blah blah. What can I do or die? Yeah. You know? So they're they're sources of self motivation, but they're also steps in my mind.

Joey Bowen:

That's how my crazy brain works. I hope everybody's in the community is is taking value from it.

Drew Beech:

That's funny. I, even bit bit knowing what I know, I make the same mistakes. I got Sean and Simon yelling at me all the time because I'm they, they talk about, like, fitness and stuff, and I'm always the new the new workout program. I got oh, I got this coach. Right?

Drew Beech:

I'm trying this I'm trying this mode as workout method or whatever. And they're like, that we had, like, a of course, they're like, they were like, dude, fucking stop and just do the basics. Like, just do 531 and get fucking strong.

Joey Bowen:

Exactly. And that's why Oh, they're Wendler guys?

Drew Beech:

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, alright. Yeah. And that's what I had to go back to.

Drew Beech:

So I just, like, literally Yeah. 531.

Joey Bowen:

So, speaking of starting I I speaking of starting something new.

Drew Beech:

Dude had me doing, like, oscillating reps. I'm like Oh, bro.

Joey Bowen:

What are you doing, man? I know nothing about this. I'm not an expert. Expert. What are you doing, though, man?

Joey Bowen:

I, quick aside. So I, am a, big 531 guy. So I did 531 and boring boring but big were his 2 programs that I patched together, and I did those for years. Yeah. Now, I've recently just this week, I've switched to, Jay Farrugia's Ah.

Joey Bowen:

Friend of the community, friend of mine, dear friend of mine, But III just met, but we had an instant bond. He, just released his, midlife muscle program.

Drew Beech:

That's up your alley.

Joey Bowen:

So at, like, 40 and, like I'll be honest, man. Like, with the jujitsu training

Drew Beech:

Jay Verus is the 1 in Jack. Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

He's me. Yeah. With the jujitsu training, I do, and the entrepreneurial training I do at 42, you know, powerlifting regimens for me are much different than they were at 30. You know? So I'm trying a little something different, but, for the right reasons.

Drew Beech:

What's the the midlife muscle or

Joey Bowen:

is that for swimming like? It's a, push pull legs or push legs pull. So it's familiar. But Jay is great with tailoring because he's 1 of us. Right?

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. You know what I mean? He's great at tailoring exercises to men in their midlife. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Joey Bowen:

Reducing pain Yeah. During the exercises and really putting together a structure of look. Like, I know how you behaved in your twenties thirties

Drew Beech:

Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

And I know how you wanna behave in your forties, but here's the reality of the situation and how to do it a bit differently and still have success.

Drew Beech:

Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

So I'm I'm really enjoying it. But, I think, though, like, I mean, how else can we say other than, like, we're not perfect? Like, all these things we're talking about

Drew Beech:

wanted to Yeah. To relay. Is that

Joey Bowen:

it's like you.

Drew Beech:

The same mistakes.

Joey Bowen:

Newsflash. There's no perfect plan. There's no perfect progress, and there's no perfect people. And that includes us. You know what I mean?

Joey Bowen:

Like, the only way that we've gotten to where we are now, and we're far from fucking done, but the only way we've gotten to where we are right now is by failing.

Drew Beech:

Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

Literally.

Drew Beech:

Doing and

Joey Bowen:

Doing and failing. And learning. Yeah. Doing, failing, learning. Doing, failing, learning.

Joey Bowen:

Doing, failing, learning.

Drew Beech:

Yep.

Joey Bowen:

That's it.

Drew Beech:

100%.

Joey Bowen:

Alright. So that is the 4th step or source of self motivation. Last but not least, the 5th source of self motivation, the thing that you can do to move yourself into action to build your own is achieve. And I'm not talking about achieve your entire plan, achieve I'm not talking about build Rome. I'm talking about short range goals along your path.

Joey Bowen:

Short range goals along your path. Right? So we we

Drew Beech:

I don't

Joey Bowen:

wanna get into a whole goal setting exercise right now, but I believe that there's short range goals and there's long range goals. Right? Like, your roam is your long range goal. Your short range goal, they're confidence builders. Right?

Joey Bowen:

They're the things you need to continue on executing your plan. You've you've got to you've gotta celebrate them along the way. Yeah. You've gotta celebrate along the way your achievements. And I don't think that me personally talking about being imperfect, I don't think I do a really great job of that.

Drew Beech:

Yeah. You know

Joey Bowen:

what I mean? Which you and and Brianna have have told me, and we've had that conversation in our, EOS meetings. And you've asked me to set a goal to smell the roses Yeah. More often, which, you know, again, I can be better, but I've been doing a pretty decent job of of, doing if I've if I pat myself on the back for a moment.

Drew Beech:

I agree. I mean and again, when we were building this and to what it is now, we were it was hard. You know? And we risked a lot, sacrificed a lot, and we're going through some hard times. And, I mean, our times are always coming and going, but it weared on us a lot.

Drew Beech:

And I think the pressure, put you in your attack mode for, for those that don't know When we were in the thick of it, Joey was up to the office every day in attack mode. And it to some, it may seem grumpy, but it's really just how Joey would stay focused.

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. So if I can clarify. Right? And I dude, I've thought a lot about this, and now I have words for it. Right?

Joey Bowen:

That's how you develop language to, excuse yourself. No. I'm joking. That's how you develop language to to to, put color to it. So I did a lot of attacking just generally.

Joey Bowen:

Like, I was laying waste to everything. Yeah. People, processes, everything. What I needed to do was attack the problem, not the people. Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

And although I wasn't coming in and being like, hey, dickhead. What are you doing? My energy that I was giving off was, like, super aggressive because I was attacking anything in my wingspan instead of saying, okay. Like, I wanna channel all this energy and attack just the problem. Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

The other thing too is I didn't even explain that to you. I wasn't like, hey. Look. I'm attacking the problem, not the people.

Drew Beech:

Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

You know? So

Drew Beech:

Yeah. So, anyway, we and we were making progress as we always are. Mhmm. So I I think we all just obviously do things differently, and I just, I was happy to be along for the ride. Do you know what I mean?

Drew Beech:

Like, just to be just to be there doing what we like you said, doing what we love and who we love

Joey Bowen:

Yeah.

Drew Beech:

That I showed up differently. But, did but what's ever, like, say, like, yeah, like, you're in attack mode. Like, you gotta chill. Like, same thing. Okay.

Joey Bowen:

Yep. Yep. Well, I mean, like I said, this is you know, as far as achievement goes, is this, like, last step or last sort last source of self motivation along this journey to continue moving yourself into action and being motivated self motivated. You do have to stop. You can't be in attack mode all the time.

Joey Bowen:

You have to part of of the hunt is reflection and awareness. And you need to say, like, you know, I've put the work in, and I've I've built something. You know, I've done something. We've done some good things. Like, let's celebrate our progress a little bit.

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. You know? Let's stop and smell the roses.

Drew Beech:

You have to do the work, but then enjoy the work while you're doing it. And now that we didn't enjoy it, it's like you have to actually exude like you are. You know what I mean? Like, you were

Joey Bowen:

so great. You were

Drew Beech:

enjoying it, but we were and, yeah, I was when it came, to my house, like, there were times when Amanda quit her job to go on her entrepreneurial journey, and I was we were the other day, someone asked me, oh, when did you start flawless? And we were like, oh, 2017. And they're like, oh, when did you start a few hunt? I was like, oh, 2017. They're like and they're like, wait.

Drew Beech:

What? So those and I was

Joey Bowen:

Burn the boats.

Drew Beech:

And I was I was brutal at home. Like Yeah. There were there were times when I was just, like, because all the pressure was on me. Yeah. And I'd all I wanted to do, I didn't wanna go any go anywhere or do anything.

Drew Beech:

I just want like, and again, we're still kinda like this.

Joey Bowen:

Mhmm.

Drew Beech:

I just wanted to work and attack the attack the problem, figure out Yeah. What wasn't working and then do more of what was working.

Joey Bowen:

Talking about imperfections, man. Like, during that time, I was a raving lunatic at home. Like, I was not the best father and husband

Drew Beech:

I could be. And I'll

Joey Bowen:

be honest with you. I still have those moments. Yeah. You know, to this day. Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

We talked about the roller coaster that is entrepreneurship. You come in in the morning HQ, you ride and hide, dude. You know? It's it's amazing. You're enjoying the journey.

Joey Bowen:

And then, like, the flip of a switch, something can happen. Difficulty crops up that changes your demeanor and your attitude. And some days, it's a struggle for me to to change back into the man I need to be at home for for that. That's, I think, something that everybody anybody in in the entrepreneurial game, no matter what level you're at or what part of the journey struggles with,

Drew Beech:

man. Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

You know? Bedros talks about, like, you know, letting the armor fall off as a visualization that I absolutely love. Like, you're walking around all day and basically, like, you know, suited up like a knight. Yeah. You know, you have this armor on.

Joey Bowen:

Like, you are impervious. Like, nothing can, like, penetrate, you know what I mean, your your exterior, your cast exterior. But, his walk was, I think, from, like, his pool house or whatever into his home for dinner, and he said that he used to visualize him the armor falling off of his body as he walked in. And sometimes I I have to do that same visualization to to, you know, really get me in the proper mindset to be the best I can be at home.

Drew Beech:

Another super successful entrepreneur, Amanda's dad, mister Bachman. He, he always yells at me for working at home after hours, but because he says he would always he would leave work at work and then come home and

Joey Bowen:

Mhmm.

Drew Beech:

And that was family time. But

Joey Bowen:

Nowadays, the world's changed a little bit.

Drew Beech:

And Yeah. He hasn't.

Joey Bowen:

I still like we we both do. We have that fam that block of family time around dinner that we protect. Mhmm. But other than that, it's like work.

Drew Beech:

It's just work.

Joey Bowen:

It's work. Yeah. There's a time for, sowing, and there's a time for reaping. Like, if you look at our reap what you grow. Right?

Drew Beech:

Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

There's if you wanna grow something, there's a time for sowing, and there's a time for reaping. And right now, we are not in the harvest phase. We're not. Yeah. We're we're we're still sowing.

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. You know? And that requires sacrifice or investment. You know? If you don't wanna call it sacrifice, it requires investment.

Joey Bowen:

So I mean, I love this episode. I really do. I felt like it was great. I know the community is gonna take some value, from it on, their journeys, and it's going to help them self motivate instead of looking for external sources of motivation.

Drew Beech:

Oh, yeah.

Joey Bowen:

Anything else you wanna I I think I'm forgetting some. No. Anything else you wanna That

Drew Beech:

was that was, when you sent me the outline, I I didn't,

Joey Bowen:

You mean this morning, 20 minutes before you start doing this? Just full transparency. I mean, it's

Drew Beech:

It much heavier hitting than I than I expected. Yeah. Well, that's

Joey Bowen:

what happens when I send you a 2 when I send you a 2 minute voice memo. And I'm like, yeah. This is what we're gonna talk about.

Drew Beech:

When you get us going, though, it's just.

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. Yeah. It's it's electric. I know.

Drew Beech:

But you're you're yelling at me, I felt like.

Joey Bowen:

Was I? Yeah. I told you

Drew Beech:

I wanted to punch

Joey Bowen:

it up. I feel like, man, I just I feel like I'm dampening my intensity. So this is the thing.

Drew Beech:

We're my that's a year. We're different, though. Like Oh, we are. We're yin and yang.

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. Yeah. We are.

Drew Beech:

It's hard for us to find that medium because I'm much more lower vibrating. I get like a

Joey Bowen:

I Lower vibrating. You're just I'm

Drew Beech:

a mellow. I'm a mellow.

Joey Bowen:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm I'm more manic.

Drew Beech:

Yeah. Yeah.

Joey Bowen:

Oh, you're right. Yeah. That guy.

Drew Beech:

So we have to find that perfect the perfect balance.

Joey Bowen:

I think I think we found it.

Drew Beech:

Uh-huh. I

Joey Bowen:

think I think we found it.

Drew Beech:

Hold these chairs, Dane.

Joey Bowen:

I love these things, man. No. I think we've you you're right. You've hit the you've hit the nail on the head, but I think we found we found the the balance. The balance doesn't exist.

Joey Bowen:

It's a mix. And I was not yelling at you doing the show. Yeah. I was attacking the problem. Yes.

Joey Bowen:

Not the person.

Drew Beech:

You're attacking.

Joey Bowen:

I will will will end it there. Please, I mentioned this maybe on the last show. We want to speaking to the Eagles that are watching and listening, we wanna cover topics that you wanna hear about. Right? So, if you have a topic or something you're struggling with that you want us to cover on the show, leave it in the YouTube comments.

Joey Bowen:

And, it would greatly, greatly help our movement, and it would help us combat all the negative we talked about during the show if you shared the show. Right?

Drew Beech:

Share it with an eagle who who needs it.

Joey Bowen:

Share it with a hard worker in your life, a dream chaser in your life, a risk taker in your life, someone that loves freedom in your life, someone who loves dogs. I mean, in in your life, dog loving is also another key component of the community of an eagle. So, yes, please. Please share the show. Alright.

Joey Bowen:

You want me to sign off? I'm gonna sign.

Drew Beech:

Yeah. You got it.

Joey Bowen:

Okay. I forgot sign off now, Jagan. Move the the mic here. We're gonna leave the Eagles with someone, and so is Luna. Remember, always choose hard work over handouts.

Joey Bowen:

Always choose effort over entitlement. No 1 owns you. No 1 owes you. You're 1 of the few. Now let's hunt.