Magic Meets Adventure

In this episode, Ayren and Tim discuss the recent permit filings of a new project base at Animal Kingdom and what this means for the parks future and the upcoming changes to Dinoland USA into South America. 

What is Magic Meets Adventure ?

Magic Meets Adventure is where Disney meets Universal! This is your one stop shop for all things Disney and Universal Theme Parks. As park enthusiasts, Tim and Ayren share their ideas, rankings, travel tips, history, and more to help create an everyday escape into the incredible worlds of magic and adventure!

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Ayren: Tim is not doing well right now.

I'll welcome everybody in. What's up everybody. Welcome to,

I promise you what we're laughing at is not worth all of this. I might be delirious. It's all good. It is late at night. We're recording. Welcome

Tim: back to another episode, ladies and gentlemen. I'm Tim and I bring the magic.

Ayren: And I'm Aaron. I bring the adventure. I promise you are both sober. We've not been smoking [00:01:00] anything.

I was sitting here typing away on the computer. And, randomly just started quoting Lion King and the most random line to quote, too. It's like not even one of the important ones. I love it so much. Anyway, Tim, get us back on track here. Yeah.

Tim: Anyways, welcome to another episode of Magic Meets Adventure. Uh, we're off to a great start, but we do actually have a really exciting episode and Lion King does actually kind of tie into What we're going to be talking about.

Okay. Yeah, they're this episode just to give a heads up pure speculation

Ayren: It's a great way to start.

Tim: There's only one thing confirmed because based off the title, I'm sure you've read it. We're talking about Animal Kingdom. We're talking about the potential upcoming changes. The only thing confirmed is that Dinoland is changing and it's changing to South America.

Ayren: That is locked in. That

Tim: is locked in. That's confirmed. Okay. Everything else after that? Mm hmm. [00:02:00] Speculation, rumors. So take everything I say and take everything Anyone else says? With a grain of salt, until Disney officially announces

Ayren: it. Have they said what it's gonna look like, or have they just said it's South America?

Tim: Based off what they said at Destination D last year, is that it's going to change to South America. Okay. But they have not stated what. What that includes. How, why, and what in. What? What in. Why am I saying what,

Ayren: yeah, all

Tim: that stuff.

Ayren: Sweet. So Tim, go ahead and, uh, cause I, I, I full transparency. I haven't been following along with it, but this is your lane, man.

So what are we talking about here?

Tim: So there's a little, thing called permit filings. So we're going to go behind the scenes again, real briefly. And so in order to do certain projects, particularly those that involve building new things, whether it's a restaurant attraction, a planter,

Ayren: need

Tim: permit filings.

You need permit filings to build certain buildings. You need permit filings [00:03:00] to essentially build attractions, all that stuff. And there was one recently that came out for Animal Kingdom. Now it's not a ride, it's not anything. But it is a Essentially like a War Room esque Station for animal kingdom.

Ayren: So is this something for cast members?

You mean, this is for

Tim: Walt Disney Imagineering. Okay. Gotcha. So this is like a mini headquarters for animal kingdom. It seems like a project base

Ayren: within the limits of the park or the limits of the park. Okay. So it's gonna be kind

Tim: of like past Everest.

Ayren: Okay,

Tim: so it's within the park

Ayren: Okay, so but essentially what you're talking about is an office building.

Yeah, okay,

Tim: it's it's couple office buildings parking spaces Interesting road to go to and from

Ayren: when was this announced?

Tim: This was as of the recording of this like a few weeks ago. Okay,

Ayren: so

Tim: some of those people have covered it though.

Ayren: Was this before [00:04:00] the change in the head of Imagineering? No. Okay. So this was after.

Okay.

Tim: Interesting. This was after. So all this stuff. So making big

Ayren: moves quick.

Tim: Yeah, really. I mean, I'm sure they're going to announce more stuff, but just to give kind of brief context. Like, A couple weeks ago, Barbara Boza steps down. I talked about that my excitement level and I have not been disappointed yet They've announced opening date for a community core hall.

That's June 10th They've announced like a little Encanto show that's gonna be a part of it They've announced a new Disney cruise ship, which has a hero's a villain's theme, which is gonna be dope They've announced a whole bunch of stuff a drone show over Yeah,

Ayren: that was I was not expecting that heck.

Yes, that's super cool And so so here's the thing that's kind of interesting to me at least from like a behind the scenes standpoint is all of this stuff had To be in development already. They just decided to announce it now So I wonder if the issue was Bosa was taking too long to I mean, I don't know what she Again, I don't know.

This is all behind the scenes stuff. This could be [00:05:00] hey, we're making the announcement now to let everybody know, you know Don't panic with the change in Imagineering leadership the timing of that is, is super fascinating to me. Yeah, I agree. Like, cause this, these sort of decisions don't happen overnight.

Like you said, there's permit filings, but, but even that's a process.

Tim: Yeah. I mean the whole reason we're talking about this and the whole reason many people have talked about it, because I know there's some of you are probably like, well, Tim, it's only office buildings. But here's the thing.

You need an office space to work on a big project. Right, you need project space. This is true. And When we take a look at destination d 23 this past year in 2023 They talked about some changes coming to animal kingdom.

Intro: Mm hmm

Tim: And before you get stuff started You need a space for imagineers to work on site

Ayren: Especially if it's going to be a large scale project,

Tim: especially if it's going to be a large if it's small

Ayren: scale You know, you're still officing in california.

You're still flying out But if it's something that you need to keep eyes on every [00:06:00] day And I would even add to that I think if you're trying to make quick progress on To be on site could be a game changer

Tim: This is the start of a upcoming project and not a tiny project.

Like you said, this is a big project, which means that the South American transformation is green lit. It's good to go. We just don't know what's in it.

Ayren: Yeah,

Tim: That's what it says to me. And I think to a bunch of other people, and that's why we've been talking about this, this is stage one.

Ayren: So I'm going to kind of put you on the spot here, Tim.

Go for it. And maybe you have an answer to this. Maybe you don't. Maybe this is just something that your brain kind of takes off on. What do you think this means at the least? And what do you think this means at the most? Obviously. So not, not just them building the building there, but them, basically saying, Hey, we're going to move forward with the South America content.

Like what's the smallest scale you think this could be and what's the potentially the largest [00:07:00] scale you you think we could see

Tim: Smallest scale is the concept art. We got at destination d.

Ayren: Okay

With that, remind me, did we get, wasn't Canto a part of that? And then was Indiana Jones a part of that?

Okay. And so those were the two main. Okay.

Tim: They also later talked about a little cocoa thing stuff as well.

Ayren: Okay. Yeah,

Tim: that's right. So yeah, small scale. That's what it is. Cause you wouldn't set up. Pretty semi permanent offices. Yeah, but like, yeah, so just to rethink, you know, triceratops spin. That doesn't make sense.

Right.

Ayren: So size wise, do you think this is only going to take the space of dino land or do you think they're expanding past that?

Tim: I don't know. That's the thing. And there's also been rumors. Again, take this with a grain of salt. There's also been rumors. This is official

Ayren: breaking news right now. Tim's got it

Tim: No, I have no sources

Ayren: yet.

Tim's sources are mousetrap news. That's it That's oh my gosh, dude, they had one the other day that was like for 150 dollars You can [00:08:00] go fishing and living with the land now. I don't think that's okay. I don't know how they come up. That's amazing It's so so you fish for cucumbers. That's it. No Uh,

Tim: too soon, anyways , there's rumors that it's not just this expansion that's up and coming too.

That there's other projects for Animal Kingdom in the works. Oh? Cause they, apparently there's been, I guess, capacity issues? Which doesn't make sense to me. My thought is, Don't get me wrong. I love Animal Kingdom. I'd rather be in Animal Kingdom more than, you know, spending time at home.

Intro: Mm hmm,

Tim: but it did it's not a

Ayren: it's not an all day park.

It's not, but because of that, I mean you get a lot of people in a shorter window of time. So for example, if you have Magic Kingdom, obviously Magic Kingdom, well everywhere has crowd issues right now, but Magic Kingdom, let's say it's open from 9 to 10 on a day where you don't have an after hours event.

Okay. Yep That's a long day and not everyone is going to be there park open to park close You could have people come and go throughout the [00:09:00] day animal kingdom. It's a There are fewer attractions there and it's open for a smaller window of time And so if you go in with the idea of I want to go and do everything in the park because maybe this is your maybe you're probably only sliding one day for animal kingdom in your vacation Well, then you have a lot of people who are there from you know You know, open to close, which in that park is say nine to six with not a lot of attractions.

I mean that stuff can just get kind of cluttered. So yeah, I mean definitely the more options you have the better It will be but then I wonder I mean, I don't want to anticipate them keeping the park open any later. As much as it would be just kind of spreading Unless it's specific

Tim: areas that might be open later.

That would be my guess. Yeah, I

Ayren: could see that potential I mean, that's kind

Tim: of what they do Anyway with like kilimanjaro safari closes like an hour or two before the rest of the park It

Ayren: would be interesting and I think it would actually be a pretty cool move now that you say that if they decided to You Whatever expansion it is that they're potentially looking at doing Expanding it with the idea in mind that it can be open [00:10:00] later And the rest of the park that would be really fascinating But again, you'd have to do a lot you can't do that and only have two attractions if you're going to go that route Um, yeah,

Tim: I don't know.

That's

Ayren: interesting.

Tim: Yeah, so back to your original question briefly, small expectation is it's just south america big expectation is It's a phase one phase two Potentially where we see of course South America stuff happening, but maybe even some other stuff. Mm hmm happening as well Potentially, I could see that.

, I don't know what that'll look like. Yeah, but I do think it is possible I mean, Disney kind of has a cycle with like oh this year We're gonna hit this park and this year we're gonna hit this park And so Epcot's gotten kind of a lot of the love. Yeah as of late granted, ideas have changed.

Before that was those studios. Before that was studios, before that was Animal Kingdom, then before that was Magic Kingdom.

Ayren: Yeah.

Tim: And so they've kind of gone in this sort of cycle, and so now it's Animal Kingdom [00:11:00] slash Magic Kingdom's turn. Back up again. Animal Kingdom's is going first.

Yeah.

Ayren: No, that's pretty cool, man. I like that. That is super exciting. It's always, you know, what I'd like to think is that they heard our One thing you would change about every park episode and they're like dang these guys are onto something we should

Tim: wish full thinking

Ayren: Yeah, but no, that's pretty cool. I do like that a lot.

I think it's going to be a big Season for disney in general right now. They've been pretty quiet for the past couple of years and I think they're in course correction mode, obviously with you know, Everything that went on with the chapec era and now the change in imagineering and all that sort of stuff You know, I will tell you I've been reading, over the past couple of weeks, very slowly.

But I've been reading Iger's book, right of a lifetime where he talks about, you know, he was writing this book, anticipating his first retiring, from the Walt Disney company. And it's just so interesting kind of to get that look behind the scenes. I think if you're looking for. Some insight on some of this stuff, you know, really the book is it's it's a [00:12:00] leadership book but in the process he talks about a lot of the decision making that goes on behind the scenes of disney and Ultimately what their goals are and you know what they're trying to execute and all this sort of stuff But it's really cool to see how long these processes actually take and that's the reason why it came to mind for me that like Hey, just because this change in imagineering happened and we got all this news breaking.

It doesn't mean this change happened overnight It's something that's been in the pipeline for years, if not decades, you know, being completely honest. I mean, these companies are thinking so far ahead about what their goals are and where they went ahead and all this stuff. And then when you realize all the legwork that goes behind it, it's impressive when you do get information like this and so now I'm, I'm interested to see kind of what that turnaround time looks like and what a realistic timeline of some of these changes could be.

Tim: And it may seem like this permit filing is early, but when we think about it, we take a look ahead a few months. D 23 is early August. Mm-Hmm. . Right. And my assumption is, is that this is probably going to be one of the bigger things. This one's gonna be huge, dude. If not, this will be the [00:13:00] main thing announced.

Yeah. I don't, I hope not. I genuinely hope not. I Do you hope it's not the main thing? No. Okay. I mean, this to me is like, I mean, this is huge. Mm-Hmm. , right? Yeah. The fact that we're getting a brand new land. Yeah. Brand new attractions. Well, they wouldn't,

Ayren: they wouldn't announce. Even as much as they had I think if this was the only thing they were announcing at d23 Yeah They would have kept it under wraps because they needed I think they need a big reveal At that event to get people excited again.

I

Tim: do think they're going to do

Ayren: Yeah.

Tim: Oh, a hundred percent. Yeah, for sure. And below my freaking mind if I get tickets and high five people next to me. I think it was

Ayren: a 2021 D23 with JPEC was so underwhelming. I remember that. Well, not necessarily it was underwhelming. You had a lot of things going on, right?

They were coming out. 2019 was awesome. Yeah, but then you, you know, you have COVID. You have COVID that got factored in and all this other sort of stuff. And so it feels like they're In my opinion even trying to win back some of the goodwill [00:14:00] with d23 Which I thought they did last year. They tried to at least with a you know, there was better than a handful Handful of big announcements 2022 was lame 2022.

Their hands were tied. They were losing so much money. They you know There was only so much they didn't want to, in my opinion, they didn't want to over promise and under deliver in my opinion, this past year, they, whether or not they over promise has still been, , yet to be seen, but I feel like what they were trying to do last year was to get people excited for what D 23 could be this year.

I think there was a lot of stuff that they kind of had these blue sky concepts on that they said, well, we can't. We can't confirm this stuff now, but let's go ahead and just kind of tickle your interest a little bit right now so that next year we can drop some of the big guns on you, which again, I think is going to happen, and I'm really hoping happen.

Tim: Yeah, for sure. Do we want to talk about some speculation on what could be coming? Go

Ayren: for it.

Tim: Let's talk about some exciting stuff. So when we take a look back last year to destination d23, they hinted to us at the possibility [00:15:00] of Encanto indiana jones, and then they later stated about coco coming to this south america area now Depending on how you feel about all those is irrelevant.

That is what it's looking like.

Ayren: It doesn't matter what you think about

Tim: , we've been watching a lot of wrestling lately, that's fair but that being said should I hit the e ticket first? Do whatever you want, man. Let's hit the e ticket first. Hit that thing. So if you aren't aware, you know, Dinosaur may be a great attraction But there is a much superior version over at Disneyland that is themed to one of the greatest adventures.

Objection, your honor, speculation. Nah. I'm

Ayren: kidding. Yeah.

Tim: I think it's better. I will not allow that. It's so much better. Okay. I

Ayren: think they both stand well on their own.

Tim: That's true. But, it's very true, but anyways Indiana Jones Adventure Fantastic right over at Disneyland. Rumors are that they're going to be [00:16:00] somewhat bringing it over to Disney World via Animal Kingdom.

Ayren: Do you think that's going to make people happy? I think, okay, here's what I'm saying. I think people enjoy that, but so for example, look at Tron. Okay. Tron is a clone from Shanghai. And I think people were really excited when Tron got announced, but then when it got installed, and you know, a part of this is because of the ride experience, just it being short and all that other sort of stuff, it felt like people were like, okay, Disney, you did that, but what else?

And I think a part of that is because it was an existing attraction that we already got when people are always looking for bigger, and I think that's part of the reason It also took too long. Oh, it did it's a way too long But I think that's also a part of the reason why people love cosmic rewind so much is because it feels so fresh so new So original and people are like, oh, that's a new thing Disney did so even though these two attractions open I mean look at look at Remy's as well, right?

Like it's a clone from Paris So do you think just doing a copy and paste from Disneyland will actually? [00:17:00] Appease people or do you think they have to do that plus?

Tim: Well, if it makes you feel any better current rumors are saying that it's not going to be a carbon copy. Oh So they're actually going to change it now some elements i'm would assume are going to stay the same There's some i want they're going to stop like the boulder scene.

Yeah, that'd be more than likely is going to stay Yeah, just iconic make sure it works fantastic. That's also a very good point But that being said his current rumors are that is going to be a little bit of a different story More tying into kind of the mayan theme that they've been hinting at with that concept

Ayren: art.

That makes sense

Tim: Other people have also suggested That they kind of tie it back in, pay homage to the attraction that was there, dinosaur and kind of do like a bro dinosaur esque adventure.

Ayren: Indie versus the Dinos would be sick. ,

Tim: this isn't Godzilla versus con give, give it to me. This is,

Ayren: give it to me. I wanna see indie fighting a Bronch.

Asosa, or whatever they call

Tim: the more like him finding like [00:18:00] dinosaur eggs or something like that. I don't know. And then the

Ayren: dinosaurs hatch, and inside is Vin Diesel, and now the ride is Fast and Furious Supercharged.

Tim: Oh,

Ayren: gosh. Profanably. Oh, man. It's

Tim: the Jurassic Park Fast and Furious time. I want that crossover

Ayren: so bad, man.

It'll be awfully great. I want that crossover so bad. If Supercharged does close, I just need them to expand. Yeah, anyway. Give me that. Anyway.

Tim: But that's the current rumor, is that it's going to be A little bit of a different story, similar ride mechanics and similar scenes, but story wise is going to be different, which has me excited.

Because I mean, it allows for some similarities. Yes, but also some unique differences.

Ayren: That is one of the things that I kind of wish was more common between the two parks. So, for example, I know this isn't an exact perfect analogy, but the fact that you have mission breakout versus Tower of Terror.

I like that [00:19:00] it's. A pretty similar ride system But I love that there are differences because I I think that just makes going to both parks. So Much more interesting. So one of the things you know at d23 a few years ago when they announced I say a few years ago It's crazy to think I was like Probably close to 10 years ago now when they announced, Galaxy's Edge coming out.

Everyone was super excited when Iger said, well, we're getting the exact same park on both coasts. That is really cool. But now because I've done Galaxy's Edge at Walt Disney World, that's not a draw for me to go to Disneyland. Whereas if they did, let's say another Part of the Star Wars universe in Disneyland.

Well then, yeah, I would go and check that out. You know, it'd be really cool to kind of continue that story and to explore another idea of it. So I, I love that concept, man, of keeping essentially the same IP, or at least the same, you know, ride system, which I do think is something that we lose, , by losing dinosaur, because right now that is what you have.

It's a similar ride system with different stories. , but I think having a continuous story from coast to coast could be really cool.

Tim: Yeah, for sure. And so that [00:20:00] brings us over. Towards in Kanto, which I initially thought was going to be like a character meet and greet and stuff like that It's not it looks like it could be an actual legit attraction.

That would be which is cool Currently in a

Ayren: room and you don't talk about

Tim: yeah,

Ayren: let's

Tim: certain something. Yeah current rumors are

Ayren: Took you a minute. Yeah seven foot But it's

Tim: like gonna be kind of like a sea ticket attraction. So think of like your omni mover style. Think of like best cop would be like under seas with the little mermaid.

Ayren: I'd be down for that.

Tim: I think within concho it could be pretty cool. It'd be pretty cool or or like another house or something like I mean I don't know. I don't know what it would look like.

Ayren: I mean, I think it'd be cool to give you You should be in the

Tim: house.

Ayren: I mean do you think about like, I mean, you know, obviously the next closest comp So this would be like a haunted mansion but like imagine a haunted mansion [00:21:00] Omnimover style attraction where you go through and see All the different contos things that could be pretty cool.

Tim: That would be cool It'd be different. Yeah, so that's the rumor omni mover style You know little mermaid people mover some of those things Nah It's a brilliant attraction. One of the greatest ever made. You'll understand it soon. Anyways, but then of course there's also Coco, which I didn't initially say in Destination D23 in 2023, but they did like talk about in like pressers.

Yeah, which they forgot about

Ayren: them And then they were like remember me

Tim: I'm on fire right now, bro. You're crushing it. We started joking about stuff earlier and now we're like on top of things. Now it's great. My assumption is it's going to be triceratops spin replacement, you know, But it would actually be kind of cool to ride some like alibrijes, you know and stuff like that I think could work pretty decently.

I don't know how it entirely fits, but hey It'd [00:22:00] be would it be on that front in particular? And so those are kind of the Current rumors for the land so to speak

Ayren: I love rumors. They get me super excited because yeah, it's just I think these parks are you know, they're a little bit overdue for Some updates and stuff.

I mean that's also just the nature of the beast like we're people we're impatient We always want new we always want shiny we always want You know, I was going to say we always want change, but that's not necessarily true, but we always want, to see more, more experiences come to the parks and just new things to get excited about.

And we are at no shortage of new things that are going to be coming out here over the, over the next coming weeks and months, especially leading up to D23.

Tim: Yeah. It seems the details will look really, really great. I'm curious to see just how it'll all tie together and also just how it's going to look, if this is going to be.

What it turns out to be, , that also does mean if we go back to. D23 in 2022 when they talked about beyond big thunder. Yeah, Coco and a Kanto were [00:23:00] also thought for that

Ayren: Yeah,

Tim: which that changes that whole light

Ayren: because then it opens up. Yeah, it opens up what we could get

Tim: entire Villains land if that's the case.

I'm here for

Ayren: it. I'm still would prefer

Tim: a little

Ayren: park, but hey, I'm so here for it I think there's a part of them that might wait to see how dark universe does.

Tim: I'm curious

Ayren: I'd be interested to see if if that's kind of you know You

Tim: Still give me that Haunted Mansion restaurant. That's all I ask.

Ayren: Oh, dude.

Yeah. Yeah, I don't that feels way too overdue.

Tim: Please Anyways, but yeah, that's the current rumors, but it's not all of them. Oh, I wanted to leave this for last Mainly because the two other youtubers who I listened to talked about this They kind of left this for hanging. This is not the only thing that might be coming to Animal Kingdom Oh, and that's why the permit filings of the buildings are so interesting You It's because they seem semi permanent.

Oh,

Ayren: okay

Tim: And so like actual asphalt not gravel. Yeah, and not a temporary workspace. Yeah, [00:24:00] not a temporary This is going to be here for a little bit of time There are current rumors And this has been a rumor for a while of using the shanghai pirates ride system Bro for a attraction at animal kingdom, dude.

Initially. It was live action jungle book

Ayren: Oh,

Tim: okay, you're gonna love this even more. Uh oh And this is where I said a certain movie ties back in.

Ayren: Uh oh.

Tim: The current rumor is, is a Lion King attraction.

Ayren: No freaking way, dude.

Tim: That is the current rumor, is a Lion King attraction.

Ayren: I would be so here for it. Me too.

If you have not watched Ride footage of the shanghai pirates. It's insane. I don't know if i've ever i don't think i've felt this much fomo on something since man, maybe the shanghai jurassic ride Maybe tron of like that feeling of like dude i've got to figure out a way how to get over there to experience this Yeah, that's Man, that would be really really cool.

Tim: Yeah, I want to go on that retraction so freaking [00:25:00] badly

Ayren: I'm gonna make a slight turn here. I'm so sorry, but do you know if there's any plans for what's gonna take over? It's tough to be above.

Tim: Yeah, it's the Zootopia show

Ayren: Oh, that has been confirmed. Okay. Yeah, that was

Tim: officially announced that at destination D.

So that is coming. I don't know when that is. So you have also that, too. That is, but no, that's,

Ayren: that's super cool, man. I, both of those elements get me excited. I would love to see a little bit more of a Lion King presence, especially a Lion King attraction. , and to get that ride system, , Yeah, that'd be super cool.

See this is what i'm talking about disney has So many great tricks already up their sleeve but to do it in a different way So for example if this happens, yeah, it'll it'll come to animal kingdom But i'm still going to want to go to shanghai to do pirates like that's You know, and I think that's a win win.

I think it's cool to see

Tim: their opening day. I'm dead serious Lion king's one of my all time favorite disney movies. It desperately needs an attraction. Don't get me wrong I love festival of the lion king. I went to do it when I was last there It was great. [00:26:00] Fantastic. But it, oh, I need this to happen, but this also has not been green lit yet.

Based off rumors. If they don't do it. It's still worse. I will write it. You deliberately disobeyed me. In case anyone's wondering, that's what we were laughing at. That's what just, yeah, I just

Ayren: randomly quoted at the top of the show for no reason. I have no idea where that came from. So between that conversation, between this one, as soon as we stopped recording, Lion King's going on the TV.

Yep. Cause it's been too long.

Tim: It's such a good movie. Side note speaking of other animated movies,

Ayren: but wait, there's more. No, there's not. ,

Tim: this is Tim's pure speculation I would love to I still want to see a jungle book attraction. Mm hmm at animal kingdom That would be cool. Give me that please and specifically the animated movie I know the live action movie did well, but I mean did it I mean it did well for the most part.

I think it was Well, for a live action. For the live action, well, it is also kind of animated too. [00:27:00] Oh, yeah. In a roundabout way. Yeah. But, uh, kind of like, yeah, I mean, it did, it did well. I did, don't think it crossed a billion. Okay. But it was pretty darn close. Yeah. But I would love that. There's so many things you can think of.

And there's still so much space in Animal Kingdom. To expand out and still, in a sense, keep to the original vision of future Disney legend, Joe Rohde. I say future, I'm so happy he is getting inducted

Ayren: this year. Do you think If they go this grand with the expansion process, this is

Tim: Please, please do Disney.

Here, if you're listening.

Ayren: If they go this grand with the expansion process, and now there are other things to do in Animal Kingdom, there's room to alleviate all the stress from the few attractions that are there, do you think they ever fix the Yeti?

Tim: If he's able to come back, do you think I don't know man.

I mean

Ayren: it's one of those things like I [00:28:00] full transparency. I don't think it'll ever happen

Tim: I don't think so either because from what I remember hearing is that it's foundational Yeah, are the issues the issue

Ayren: is they have to completely Basically disassemble the facade in order to go in. So if this does happen, it's it's I mean, I think I doubt it.

I think it's fine without it. I think you're looking at at least the same amount of closure as we saw for Splash Mountain to convert it to Tiana's. But again, they could they were able to do that with Tiana's because they were They have so much other stuff going on in the park, you know right now if you take expedition everest out of Animal kingdom

Tim: flight of passage is a five hour wait.

Ayren: Yeah easy, right? But if you expand it so far I don't know. I don't know. I don't think it'll happen, but it is wishful thinking it'd be awesome But again, I think you're right. I don't think it needs it. But yeah, it would be a long term refurbishment I think

Tim: I mean man, it just if they were able to do those.

Ayren: Yeah [00:29:00]

Tim: I'm willing to say that animal kingdom may raise up in my rankings.

Ayren: Yeah. No, that's fair

Tim: I I think it very the only reason why especially if an alien lion king attraction I

Ayren: love the park the only reason why it was as low as it was is because There's just you know, it's just not a ton to do and and it is, you know In some ways a half day park, but yeah, you had more stuff to do.

I love the park and it only went so low on my list because it has to go somewhere. Yep. But yeah, I mean Yeah No, I'm down with that. Yeah, who knows?

Tim: And then after that, I mean, Magic Kingdom's next on the docket, and who knows? Uh, man, I would love to see them just give us a little something for what they're thinking.

Because, I mean, don't, I mean, it's the busiest theme park in the world. Yeah. And it's the most popular theme park in the world,

Ayren: but that's not gonna change so there's no reason why they have to Rush to announce things, you know, that's

Tim: true But then it's also like it just allows for more people to be in the park.

And so I don't know We'll see what happens there. , we shall we shall [00:30:00] see but that kind of wraps up the the sort of rumors That's all fun stuff to think about pure pure speculation and you know sometimes it's fun just to think and dream and remember just to not take it seriously if things change because they do you know, just to No going into it that hey things are probably gonna change and that's a okay.

Things be changing Yeah, they change all the time. And so I mean Optimism for Tiana's Bayou adventure was not great. And now people are like, oh this actually could be really really good

Ayren: I think it's gonna be dope. I'm actually super excited about all

Tim: the animatronics. They've shown me. Everything looks great,

Ayren: well, that's all really good stuff, man. Super exciting. I love that. It is super exciting to dream about all that sort of stuff. Hey, we hope that this time was a bit of an escape for you. Maybe if you were driving in your car, running on the treadmill, doing whatever you were doing, but.

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